What to use in the bathroom wet board moisture board plasterboard
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- This is my opinion on what to use in a bathroom or shower room or toilet I opinion is normal plasterboard is fine I’ve been using it for the last 26 years and I have never ever had a problem. It all comes down to the finishing product that you are using on top of whatever board you have decided to use, in your bathroom shower toilet. If you have not finished it properly you will have issues regardless of what board you have used. Watch the video I explain in detail my views on what board anybody could use. Don’t forget to like and subscribe to a great channel. I hope this helps and thank you very much watching MJC kitchens and bathrooms. All the tips for the keen DIY.
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Hello. And welcome to MJC kitchens and bathrooms. A little bit about me I have been in The trade of kitchens and bathrooms from the age of 18 I’ve gone through the rankings and have worked for myself now for around 18 or 19 years give or take whenever you doing Properties you never ever really know what you are going to find that is the joys of my job that is why I love it so much because it’s the unknowing of the unknown, which keeps you entertained and definitely keeps me going. Bathrooms wet rooms radiators boilers kitchens home design no matter what it is I will always find a solution to the problem regardless of how big the problem is I can always sort it out. So thank you very much for watching please like and share my videos and thank you again.
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Watched a few of your videos now and have to say what a breath of fresh air to hear someone taking common sense with years of experience to back it up bathrooms are costly enough without forking out for things you Don't really need
Thank you very much I actually did a test and put both boards on top of the roof for nearly 12 months and there was no difference
@@bishbashbosh121thanks just goes to show what a waste of time and money it would have been
Great advice. Nobody else has explained this. Thanks a lot
Glad it was helpful!
You just changed my mind, thanks!
I did a trial for 12 months with a moisture board and a normal plasterboard on top of the roof and there were no difference
Very common sense talking here, we are lacking this so much these days...👏👏💪💪
Yes I honestly think sometimes people think by putting a moisture board or a wet board on the wall it some how stop the water from coming through the ceiling. And it is simply not the case.
It's very difficult to argue with that. Well said that that man.
You’ve a way with words! And everything you say makes sense! 👍🏻
Thank you very much
Surely if the bathroom is properly tanked (waterproof), then any moisture which enters through the grout line has nowhere to go but back out? At worst this would damage the adhesive layer.
But if you used plasterboard, that moisture could get soaked up and stay there, creating mould and damaging the whole wall.
(I'm currently renovating my own bathroom and using a full tanking system with waterproof tile backer boards).
I've got close to 40 years in the game and I have to say... At last someone who says it as it is! IMO! Your logic is spot on but the sellers of products make you think you need their products. All it needs it to do the job right in the first place.
Sorry but after some more thought into your "Logic" i find that i have to re-think on my previous reply. No offence, your thinking seems sound. The problem is... You rely on all escaped moisture to go to the floor. However, if a "moisture resistant board" is used and that is sealed to the shower tray then any liquid will return to the shower tray. Yet, a normal plasterboard could soak the the liquid in and go behind the seal. The problem with this is that it would require some kind of "Weep hole" system to the shower tray. I'm now back in agreement with you and the best method is to simply seal the plasterboard with shower proof tile adhesive and tile and seal as normal. Sorry, been a long day!
Heres a question, I have a downstairs bathroom in an old house. Would it be worthwhile using a moisture board to prevent potential damp coming from the outside in? I've just had it pointed outside where problem originated but feel I would like some extra future proofing. Would moisture board be an option in your opinion for this?
thanks. i literally had to explain why schutler membrane wasnt needed. haha
I kinda thought what you were saying made sense, but then remembered how I had to rip out a whole shower cubicle, inc. the tiles because the grout line had failed and all the plasterboard was damaged, tiles coming loose etc.
Had they installed a waterproof board/tanking system before tiling It might have just been a case of regrouting the areas that needed doing. Saving the customer £700 or so...
Also, when you tank it and seal the bottom edges between the wall and shower/ tray/bath with the tanking seal it means any leaks that come through the grout go down into the shower tray (or bathtub) instead of going through the ceiling.
When you dont tank it leaks go through the ceiling ...
Can you make a video about the business side of jobs like this such as how you charge daily or hourly and how to make a good margin on a job etc?
Yes. I will do one very shortly.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the whole point of tanking is to seal the joints (including the floor) to create a tank around the shower to prevent exactly what you're describing
EVER THING IN MY VID. VERY SIMPLE
I would say a ground floor flat needs moisture board. No question. The humidity ruins plasterboard. Think about that lads. Rough area windows don’t get opened much.
Any for for whatever the customer wants to pay for I will be happy to do
Seen so many vids on TH-cam where they are obsessed with tanking, I'm taking your advice as it just makes sense.
Yes definitely
Exactly well said, bottom line is it does not matter what the substrate is, water should never get behind the tiles and it won't if the job is done properly to begin with, there is no point wasting a hell of a lot of money on the newish fancy waterproof boards to go behind something that will already be waterproof if done Properly!
Thanks. People just do not understand it doesn’t matter what goes underneath if the top surface is not sealed properly
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I had leak from upstairs bathroom all my wall got wet got ot plaster after months and paint but few part are like powdry bubbly
You would have to send it right back or may even need skimming again
Mate I’m doing my bathroom and it’s got 3 straw walls . What’s the best way of fixing the moisture board to straw walls ?
dot and dab
Like with everything its all down to workmanship, my bathroom in my house is 20 years old plus with a power shower over the bath, I only ripped it out because the tiles were outdated 90s style but when i was ripping out the normal plasterboard underneath was bone dry and so was the floor underneath the bath so it just goes to show whoever fitted the bathroom at the time did a really good job with the tiling and grouted it very well. However on the other side of the coin we had an en suite with just a power shower no bath and it didn't last longer than 3 years the walls in the cubicle and the floor got damaged and we had to claim the insurance. It has been retiled and there has been no problems with it ever since.
Ultimately it is down to workmanship and who does the job, if you do a good job there is no reason why your bathroom or shower won't last a lifetime, if you do a crap job however it obviously won't last regardless what product you use. In my opinion if the job is done properly there is no need for tanking.
Yes exactly it doesn’t matter what you put on if it is not tile properly and the right grout it will be no good
@@bishbashbosh121 thanks, it needed to be said, millions of bathroom fitters and tilers managed just fine over the years without problems before tanking was even a thing. If you get the job done properly your bathroom will never leak, all this nonsense about how grout lets water behind the tiles if that were the case everyones bath or shower would be destroyed and that's just not the case, as said the bad jobs fail the good ones will be fine. The main weakness i find with bathrooms and showers is silicone seal not being maintained and breaks overtime due to expansion the tiles and grout however are almost always fine.
I’ve ripped my bathroom out and I’m taking your advice here, what thickness plasterboard would you recommend on brick bathroom great video by the way well explained.👍
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Can you plaster straight onto plasterboard without plastering?
If you’re tiling you mean yes tile straight onto the plasterboard. We do it all the time
@@bishbashbosh121 sorry yes I meant tiling thanks
@@bishbashbosh121 do you seal the plasterboard before tiling?
So what is the point of wet board or moisture board? Where would you use them?
If a customer would want to pay for them I would use them. The wet boards Are good on the floor to tile on
Use. Dot and dab
Here's a question for you:
I have one wall that is blown in my (regular size) bathroom, I'm thinking of sticking some moisture resistant plasterboard on the wall and also dot & dabbing it with..thistle bond
Good idea, bad idea?..
Am then going to get someone to tile the walls 👍
Yes that is a good idea
@@bishbashbosh121 Thanks Michael, reading a few forums there seems to a bit of swing if it was overkill/not the right stuff etc 👍
Providing the surface is solid. And you Tile it correctly. You should never have a problem
Guessing you only use epoxy grout
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Nonsense. Move with the times. Moisture board was developed for a reason, it's only a few quid extra. Plus tanking makes it much better. A bathroom is expensive and expected to last years and years.
I did a trial over 12 months. I’ve put two pieces of board on top of my roof and there was no difference you can see on my TikTok channel
its not about it leaking its about the moisture in the bathroom ,thats why its called moisture board
NO NO NO
That’s not right! There standards and regs: you can only put a normal plasterboard if you skim the bathroom. Normal board works if you tile the whole bathroom
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Someone put a plasterboard in our shower, tiled it, grouted it then rode off into the sunset in 2010. By 2016/2017 we noticed a little grout erosion at the base of the wall directly under the shower head and I went and bought a regrouting kit intending to regrout fairly soon. In Oct 2021 I removed some grout and tiles and found the water had penetrated somehow and had NOT run down the board but seeped through it destroying it as well as the tile cement behind some of the tiles which were held on only by decaying grout.
I'm 50 now and when we're going for a new job I'd like to get it done so we won't have to come back in 2026, 2032, 2038 etc to do the exact same patch up again and again
It would not matter what they put in it if the tile field regardless of what was underneath it all would’ve had to be sorted out so it doesn’t really make a difference whether it’s plasterboard whiteboard anything the only way you will have a guarantee never having to do it again is to use a laminate 10 mil board
it took you 5 years to get around to re doing the grout lol