My local fiber ISP messes up every now and then, so my Unifi network does have the U-LTE-Pro (I'm in EU anyways) and while it had really unusable firm-/software half a year ago, it now works fantastically. I have an extra unlimited 4G card in (for ~30€/month) and it switches over instantly. Only remaining issue is the LTE ISP using CG-NAT, so port forwarding doesn't work on backup internet.
I'm an over the road trucker. My "main" internet connection is the local WiFi, grabbed through a Ubiquiti Nanostation. If I'm parked at a place without WiFi, I have a USB LTE modem on AT&T, with an "unlimited" tablet SIM in it on my family plan. I've pulled over 50 GB in a month with no issues. I'm using a Raspberry Pi as the USB to Ethernet adapter. I'm considering getting another LTE modem with a Verizon SIM, and using OpenMPTCPRouter to combine the two together.
I was going to switch from Comcast over to Verizon 5G Home Internet, but once I had the Verizon device setup (using the ethernet port for LAN), I ended up keeping Comcast (and downgrading to the cheapest tier they have). The TPlink Omada device works great for 2 WAN connections.
I rely on 2 carrier subscriptions, each with daily 3gb quotas. The old synology 2600ac works well to help me utilize both quotas (one a backup of the other) without having to manually switching over WAN sources when the quota is depleted. When I deplete both quotas I can easily tether my android phone via usb and automatically have a 3rd failover internet source.
I can vouch for T-Mobile Home Internet. $50/month for unlimited. It’s nice to take camping as well as it’s an entire standalone router (with a battery). Only thing, as with most cellular providers, it uses CG-NAT. So you won’t have an IP address to forward ports. Not a huge concern for me as I only use it for backup internet. I get about 200-400mbps down and 30-50 up on the 5G UC network. I want to look into an external antenna, but those are my results on bone stone hardware sitting by an upstairs window.
I found my solution for failover a while ago. I played around with a few options like ddwrt installed on a WRT3200ACM but ultimately decided to use Windows Server. With windows server my internet fails over instantly. One of the issues I ran into while having my phone plugged in is that the battery would swell up. Now I have my phone plugged into a smart plug and connected to home assistant. This allows me to monitor my phones battery usage and turn the charger on when the battery drops below 15 percent and off when it reaches 85%.
If its an android phone and its rooted you can also achieve this in software. Theres a magisk module for that, i think its called advanced charge controller. I also used my old phone for something like this and i just set it to stop charging at 52 and start at 48 again and it is plugged in all the time
With my Android phone I tested on my UDM pro as the backup link I used a USBC hub plugged it into my phone then use the Nick and plugged in RJ45 from my phone to UDM pro WAN 2 and I was able to share my LTE data from my phone through my network and was able to test out the load balancing and send certain traffic through certain ways so you can say all void traffic through win 1 and everything else we went to or all Reddit traffic through when one and everything else through land too, etc. But tethering my internet sharing through a USBC hub plugged into my phone works perfectly
What would be really cool is instead of using a failover but using a load balance thing where high priority traffic is through the main connection and low priority traffic through mobile
I think Starlink should produce a small antenna system for small vehicles, to supplant the likes of Sirius/XM. This applies specifically to Tesla 3 and Y, where there is no non-kludgy methods at present to provide Sirius/XM. This system would also serve as a possibly lower speed general internet connection.
Not to be rude but people still pay for SiriusXM? I mean the tesla built in audio playlists are really good. I just thought SiriusXM is overpriced with the market we are in now with streaming of everything and podcasts. Just wondering your opinion. Hopefully this doesn't come off harsh.
I wanna like the Ubiquiti LTE device but cant get over the fact that you have to pay monthly after the first time it's used and the fact that its $10 per GB after the first GB. Seems like an easy way to rack up a bill if your internet is down for more than a couple hours.
The backup internet scenario falls into two camps: fully automatic and manual intervention. the fully automatic options include the Unifi LTE device and pretty much any router with a sim card and it's own data plan. These are what you need if you want fulltime backup internet with good speeds regardless of your physical location (way from home on vacation, etc...) The Manual intervention is much like is described in this video are the options where you have to plug in your phone's usb cable to get backup internet. Of course you can use a dedicated cell phone to do this, extra phones on a family plan are typically an extra $30 or less per month. However, the option I chose for the most budget friendly version of the manual intervention "synology router" approach is to NOT use a usb cable... In my case I have an old Linksys WRT54GS flashed with Tomato firmware where I have the router configured to use WiFI client mode as the WAN port.... yes you read that right, the router connects to a Wifi signal for its WAN connection! I have the hotpot configured on my iPhone to a specific SSID and password and have the same config configured in the client mode settings on the Linky. If my internet goes down while I am at home, I just pull out my phone and switch on my cell phone hotpot wherever I am in the house, the WRT sees the SSID and connects... voila, my UDM-Pro now has a an on demand backup internet without having to physically connect my phone. Not the speediest thing, but plenty sufficient for basic internet, even some Netflix if I don't go crazy with 4K or other "downloadish" things concurrently.... plenty enough for me to continue my workday as needed. Obviously an unlimited plan is needed if you do this for an extended period of time, but works perfectly in a pinch as occurred earlier this year with a couple Xfinity outages in my neighborhood. Pro-tip: I also keep a small router with tomato firmware on it in my travel bag which is configured similarly, but is configured to connect to the Xfinity hotspots available for free to Xfinity customers so I can have my own SSID on the router then WAN off to Xfinity network. (I could use the cellphone similarly, but only when xfinity SSIDs are NOT nearby.)
How do you avoid double NAT? AFAIK WiFi can't do true L2 bridging. Mikrotik's RouterOS has a proprietary station-bridge mode that bridges over WiFi, but it won’t work if your phone is the AP.
I'm lucky to have cox and centurylink fiber. Haven't had either go down in the 3 months since I moved in but the peace of mind that I have a failover and the bonus of loadbalancing my network is amazing
I will admit it, I'm a ubiquiti fan boi... But I am also a network security architect, so I keep my mind open. My issue with TP-Link, is quality... In my experience, they just can not handle allot of traffic and switching capabilities... They lock up or just fry out after a year or so... I've never had any kind of luck with TP-Link long term. I recommend their products to family/friends if they need something cheap, but expect to replace in a year or two.... Otherwise, pay a bit extra and get something more reliable and trusted...
Would a simple way to assure you don't get overages with the backup sim card would be not to plug it in? If it goes down, then you plug it in manually. That'd be a pretty good safe guard right there. For your next Omada video, does it fully support VPN? What I want is to be able to assign certain devices (like a Apple TV 4K) manually to it. I know pfsense can do it, but that setup (with either Omada or Unifi) kinda scares me haha.
Verizon wireless home internet. 5G $25 a month. I get 200-300 down and seen as high as 70 up. I have 1 set up at work and 1 set up with my UDM pro as a duel wan backup. See if it's available in your area.
Pretty much every routers out there with mobile 5g/lte usb support, should work as long as they support NDIS mode when connected, of course iphone really like to be special so.... Yeah it clearly wont work. And this NDIS support over USB is supported by all pocket wifi available out there, also including Android since it also uses NDIS driver for its tethered internet.
I have t-mobile 5g failover it actually paid for itself a few times this year. Spectrum went down right when I was about to do live training. Funny enough my 5g has better upload . O use a synology router thay has secondary wan real easy to setup.
Great solution for rv…. Been searching hard for an Apple usb bavkup, with a T-Mobile home if you want, and a starlink available when needed…. THANK YOU!!!
I myself have the old systems you have. I try with my android and it doesn't work. But maybe I did something wrong but I activate internet over USB on my android and then activate WAN USB. Also setup load balancing and which should be used when a WAN port does not have internet, it should switch to USB. But I couldn't get it to work, maybe I did something wrong but I couldn't get it to work. But, I have this Omada network system, about a week after your first video of this Omada I bought them. I will have the control device (OC200), also the router you have, also one of those Wifi AP for Omada and a regular TP-Link that is not for Omada that has PoE so I can provide power to Omada wifi AP and OC200. I have had and tested these and I like that system 😊
Seems your feeling better bro. Great video! Can you please make a Plex video on how to use xteve in 2022? I appreciate how you dumb down stuff for us. 😁👍
for my friend I use hi's old 4g/lte tp-link router as backup internet for hi's home that works better then usb modem connected via usb becouse if you turn on Synology Threat Prevention on your router uour internet via usb modem or phone will be crash when you will generate to many tratic on your network - I tested it on friend Synology RT2600ac that's why I know trhat problem - I think probably that is the reason why udm-pro not have the usb port becouse if you turned on IDS (i forgot corect name of that service) your internet will be down if tomany tracic will be sending via usb modem or phone. Foir me better option is when you use a elte/5g router as backup internet then usb modem
Plugged in my backup phone Poco F3 with 5G, enabled USB tether, and plugged it into the USB wan doodad. Omada VPN Router connected without issues. Getting failover to work is another story :)
Assuming Startlink doen't have data caps.... Load balancing your downloads to Starlink and gaming toward your faster internet seems interesting.
My local fiber ISP messes up every now and then, so my Unifi network does have the U-LTE-Pro (I'm in EU anyways) and while it had really unusable firm-/software half a year ago, it now works fantastically. I have an extra unlimited 4G card in (for ~30€/month) and it switches over instantly. Only remaining issue is the LTE ISP using CG-NAT, so port forwarding doesn't work on backup internet.
I'm an over the road trucker. My "main" internet connection is the local WiFi, grabbed through a Ubiquiti Nanostation. If I'm parked at a place without WiFi, I have a USB LTE modem on AT&T, with an "unlimited" tablet SIM in it on my family plan. I've pulled over 50 GB in a month with no issues. I'm using a Raspberry Pi as the USB to Ethernet adapter. I'm considering getting another LTE modem with a Verizon SIM, and using OpenMPTCPRouter to combine the two together.
It's always been strange to me, how in the usa you have to pay 10$/gb for lte and in France I have a 5g uncapped plan for 16€ per month ...
I was going to switch from Comcast over to Verizon 5G Home Internet, but once I had the Verizon device setup (using the ethernet port for LAN), I ended up keeping Comcast (and downgrading to the cheapest tier they have). The TPlink Omada device works great for 2 WAN connections.
I rely on 2 carrier subscriptions, each with daily 3gb quotas. The old synology 2600ac works well to help me utilize both quotas (one a backup of the other) without having to manually switching over WAN sources when the quota is depleted. When I deplete both quotas I can easily tether my android phone via usb and automatically have a 3rd failover internet source.
I can vouch for T-Mobile Home Internet. $50/month for unlimited. It’s nice to take camping as well as it’s an entire standalone router (with a battery). Only thing, as with most cellular providers, it uses CG-NAT. So you won’t have an IP address to forward ports. Not a huge concern for me as I only use it for backup internet. I get about 200-400mbps down and 30-50 up on the 5G UC network. I want to look into an external antenna, but those are my results on bone stone hardware sitting by an upstairs window.
Your little buddy on the floor behind really stole the show with the "Do the Worm" dance in in the background. lol
I found my solution for failover a while ago. I played around with a few options like ddwrt installed on a WRT3200ACM but ultimately decided to use Windows Server. With windows server my internet fails over instantly. One of the issues I ran into while having my phone plugged in is that the battery would swell up. Now I have my phone plugged into a smart plug and connected to home assistant. This allows me to monitor my phones battery usage and turn the charger on when the battery drops below 15 percent and off when it reaches 85%.
If its an android phone and its rooted you can also achieve this in software. Theres a magisk module for that, i think its called advanced charge controller.
I also used my old phone for something like this and i just set it to stop charging at 52 and start at 48 again and it is plugged in all the time
I run a Zyxel NR7101 that I got from work with a twin-sim (50GB, 4$ extra per month, 40$ total) as a WAN 2 back-up at home. Works great!
With my Android phone I tested on my UDM pro as the backup link I used a USBC hub plugged it into my phone then use the Nick and plugged in RJ45 from my phone to UDM pro WAN 2 and I was able to share my LTE data from my phone through my network and was able to test out the load balancing and send certain traffic through certain ways so you can say all void traffic through win 1 and everything else we went to or all Reddit traffic through when one and everything else through land too, etc. But tethering my internet sharing through a USBC hub plugged into my phone works perfectly
Just to add to this, it only works with Android 12 and up. They added Ethernet tethering (via a USB-C to RJ45 dongle) in this version.
@@rafajrichard This also works on Android 11 on a Oneplus 7 pro.
Which Verizon hotspot did you use Jason?
What would be really cool is instead of using a failover but using a load balance thing where high priority traffic is through the main connection and low priority traffic through mobile
I'll be honest, I was laughing at seeing what I'm assuming are dog legs showing up throughout the start of the video at least just by the desk
I think Starlink should produce a small antenna system for small vehicles, to supplant the likes of Sirius/XM. This applies specifically to Tesla 3 and Y, where there is no non-kludgy methods at present to provide Sirius/XM. This system would also serve as a possibly lower speed general internet connection.
Not to be rude but people still pay for SiriusXM? I mean the tesla built in audio playlists are really good. I just thought SiriusXM is overpriced with the market we are in now with streaming of everything and podcasts. Just wondering your opinion. Hopefully this doesn't come off harsh.
I wanna like the Ubiquiti LTE device but cant get over the fact that you have to pay monthly after the first time it's used and the fact that its $10 per GB after the first GB. Seems like an easy way to rack up a bill if your internet is down for more than a couple hours.
The backup internet scenario falls into two camps: fully automatic and manual intervention. the fully automatic options include the Unifi LTE device and pretty much any router with a sim card and it's own data plan. These are what you need if you want fulltime backup internet with good speeds regardless of your physical location (way from home on vacation, etc...) The Manual intervention is much like is described in this video are the options where you have to plug in your phone's usb cable to get backup internet. Of course you can use a dedicated cell phone to do this, extra phones on a family plan are typically an extra $30 or less per month.
However, the option I chose for the most budget friendly version of the manual intervention "synology router" approach is to NOT use a usb cable... In my case I have an old Linksys WRT54GS flashed with Tomato firmware where I have the router configured to use WiFI client mode as the WAN port.... yes you read that right, the router connects to a Wifi signal for its WAN connection! I have the hotpot configured on my iPhone to a specific SSID and password and have the same config configured in the client mode settings on the Linky. If my internet goes down while I am at home, I just pull out my phone and switch on my cell phone hotpot wherever I am in the house, the WRT sees the SSID and connects... voila, my UDM-Pro now has a an on demand backup internet without having to physically connect my phone.
Not the speediest thing, but plenty sufficient for basic internet, even some Netflix if I don't go crazy with 4K or other "downloadish" things concurrently.... plenty enough for me to continue my workday as needed. Obviously an unlimited plan is needed if you do this for an extended period of time, but works perfectly in a pinch as occurred earlier this year with a couple Xfinity outages in my neighborhood.
Pro-tip: I also keep a small router with tomato firmware on it in my travel bag which is configured similarly, but is configured to connect to the Xfinity hotspots available for free to Xfinity customers so I can have my own SSID on the router then WAN off to Xfinity network. (I could use the cellphone similarly, but only when xfinity SSIDs are NOT nearby.)
How do you avoid double NAT? AFAIK WiFi can't do true L2 bridging. Mikrotik's RouterOS has a proprietary station-bridge mode that bridges over WiFi, but it won’t work if your phone is the AP.
You should take a look at the Firewalla Gold. I think you'd be impressed.
I'm lucky to have cox and centurylink fiber. Haven't had either go down in the 3 months since I moved in but the peace of mind that I have a failover and the bonus of loadbalancing my network is amazing
I will admit it, I'm a ubiquiti fan boi... But I am also a network security architect, so I keep my mind open. My issue with TP-Link, is quality... In my experience, they just can not handle allot of traffic and switching capabilities... They lock up or just fry out after a year or so... I've never had any kind of luck with TP-Link long term. I recommend their products to family/friends if they need something cheap, but expect to replace in a year or two.... Otherwise, pay a bit extra and get something more reliable and trusted...
What model of iPhone did you use for the Synology? I ask cause I have that router and an iPhone 12 and it doesn’t appear to work.
Would a simple way to assure you don't get overages with the backup sim card would be not to plug it in? If it goes down, then you plug it in manually. That'd be a pretty good safe guard right there.
For your next Omada video, does it fully support VPN? What I want is to be able to assign certain devices (like a Apple TV 4K) manually to it. I know pfsense can do it, but that setup (with either Omada or Unifi) kinda scares me haha.
Only problem... This double NATs your network.
Verizon wireless home internet. 5G $25 a month. I get 200-300 down and seen as high as 70 up. I have 1 set up at work and 1 set up with my UDM pro as a duel wan backup. See if it's available in your area.
Or use a Xfinity Hotspot with wisp use with the ar750s
This also works on pfsense with android
Pretty much every routers out there with mobile 5g/lte usb support, should work as long as they support NDIS mode when connected, of course iphone really like to be special so.... Yeah it clearly wont work. And this NDIS support over USB is supported by all pocket wifi available out there, also including Android since it also uses NDIS driver for its tethered internet.
Pfsense supports usb tethering
I have t-mobile 5g failover it actually paid for itself a few times this year. Spectrum went down right when I was about to do live training. Funny enough my 5g has better upload .
O use a synology router thay has secondary wan real easy to setup.
Great solution for rv…. Been searching hard for an Apple usb bavkup, with a T-Mobile home if you want, and a starlink available when needed…. THANK YOU!!!
Lightning to RJ45 Ethernet LAN adapter, 30 USD, Done.
I myself have the old systems you have. I try with my android and it doesn't work. But maybe I did something wrong but I activate internet over USB on my android and then activate WAN USB. Also setup load balancing and which should be used when a WAN port does not have internet, it should switch to USB. But I couldn't get it to work, maybe I did something wrong but I couldn't get it to work.
But, I have this Omada network system, about a week after your first video of this Omada I bought them. I will have the control device (OC200), also the router you have, also one of those Wifi AP for Omada and a regular TP-Link that is not for Omada that has PoE so I can provide power to Omada wifi AP and OC200. I have had and tested these and I like that system 😊
Seems your feeling better bro. Great video!
Can you please make a Plex video on how to use xteve in 2022? I appreciate how you dumb down stuff for us. 😁👍
350EURs Router backup LTE system! lol
for my friend I use hi's old 4g/lte tp-link router as backup internet for hi's home that works better then usb modem connected via usb becouse if you turn on Synology Threat Prevention on your router uour internet via usb modem or phone will be crash when you will generate to many tratic on your network - I tested it on friend Synology RT2600ac that's why I know trhat problem - I think probably that is the reason why udm-pro not have the usb port becouse if you turned on IDS (i forgot corect name of that service) your internet will be down if tomany tracic will be sending via usb modem or phone. Foir me better option is when you use a elte/5g router as backup internet then usb modem
Plugged in my backup phone Poco F3 with 5G, enabled USB tether, and plugged it into the USB wan doodad. Omada VPN Router connected without issues. Getting failover to work is another story :)
Which Ethernet plug did you use?
Plugs in the usb port. 605 V1 don’t have one.
What do I have to do to convert this guy to MikroTik?
Oooooh
I like you
USE pfSense, UniFi/Omada is lacking so many features! pfSense supports 4G hardware directly!
First
Just get a GLI-NET Router best ever my favorite is the ar750s