Brownstone Brooklyn's Racial Divide: Why Are the Schools So Segregated?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2016
- Will moving the lines on a map integrate Brooklyn's public schools? What if instead of redrawing catchment areas, poor parents were given the same choices middle-class families take for granted?
P.S. 8 in Brooklyn Heights is one of New York City's most sought after public elementary schools. It’s surrounded by luxury condominiums and nineteenth-century town houses. Young families pay top dollar to move into the zone with the goal of laying claim to one of P.S. 8’s coveted kindergarten spots.
Three quarters of a mile from P.S. 8 is another public elementary school called P.S. 307. It serves a tiny section of Brooklyn that on a map looks like it was carved out of the area assigned to P.S. 8. And the zone is fully occupied by the Farragut Houses, which is a large public housing project.
As a result, demographically these two schools just a short distance apart look nothing alike: Ninety-percent of the students at PS 307 come from economically disadvantaged homes, as compared to 16 percent at P.S.8, and 95 percent of P.S. 307 students are minorities, while at P.S. 8 the figure is 40 percent.
And there’s nothing unusual about this particular district; race and class divisions exist in public school systems all over America. Sixty-two years after the Supreme Court ruled against separate but equal, school lines are drawn in a way that keeps kids who are rich and poor-black and white-apart.
Now, in this particular district in Brooklyn, with P.S. 8 experiencing severe overcrowding, the community is making a serious attempt to bring more integration. In early January, a local board that represents the district voted 6 to 3 to redraw the boundary between P.S. 8 and P.S. 307. In theory, this will mean hundreds of white affluent families will start sending their kids to a school that’s currently predominantly poor and minority.
But will parents go along with the plan?
"In general, the lesson of integration over the past 30 or 40 years has been don't just compulsorily reassign families and expect integration to occur," says Richard Kahlenberg, a senior fellow at the left-leaning Century Foundation who is considered "the intellectual father" of the movement to integrate schools. "Upper middle class families have options," he says. "They can move to a different district. They can send their kids to private school."
Wendy Lecker-a senior attorney at the Education Law Center, who's part of an informal working group to bring more diversity to New York City schools-is more sanguine.
"Many parents don't themselves have experience with integrated education," she says, "and I have a little more faith in parents that...when they understand the benefits of being in a diverse school district they will choose to participate in the public school system."
Meanwhile, walking distance from P.S. 8 and P.S. 307 there are three charters with diversity as part of their core mission. They're taking a different approach to integration-within the very same district.
Charters are public schools that are free from many of the bureaucratic rules that govern traditional public schools, and they aren't strictly tied to a particular neighborhood, so kids from anywhere in the city can apply for a slot. The newest of the bunch is the International Charter School of New York.
"We have everyone from parents who work on Wall Street to families who live in transitional housing," says Matthew Levey, the school's executive director and founder. "Diversity is something that everyone should value," says Levey, "but if you force [parents] to value it then they don't."
Today most charter schools in the U.S. aren’t diverse at all, but Kahlenberg believes that if parents had more choices many would recognize the immense benefits and opt to send their kids to integrated schools. "I'm excited about the possibility of charter schools, empowering teachers and integrating students," he says.
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Diversity for the sake of diversity is idiocy.
@Joe Orzech no colored people backed for integration for decades, now they are begging for seggregation but black only schools are racist.
It’s Neo racism
Dis you even watch the video
@@arthurheidt6373
Never mind, much better for non black people.If they want segregation let them be in segregated schools.
The logic here is flawed. Putting gifted children in special needs classes would not benefit the gifted child. To destroy a child's potential for the sake of "diversity" is criminal. Make schools merit based. Children and the country would benifit from a merit based school sytem.
Trouble is, the people judging the merit are not unbiased.
@@masonkanterbury3007 If you have the kids take test online kind of hard to tell the color of their skin.
The unfortunate truth is that when you make a school truly merit based, black kids simply can't compete. Which leads to accusations of racism and segregation.
It's not a question of a meritocracy. Obviously if kids from different incomes and backgrounds recieve the same education we can let meritocracy do it's thing. But separating schools between the wealthy and the poor (which ultimately segregates children) only creates more racism and more resentment.
What happens a lot today is white people don't want their kids with black kids. Simple as that.
Merit based,you mean not graduating students who can't earn it ? You can't do that ! That would be honest and not a lie.we don't do that
My son is graduating from public school this May.
When he has children they will attend private schools even if I have to sell my kidneys to pay for it.
*moves into neighborhood for good schools*: gentrification!
*leaves neighborhood because of bad schools*: white flight!
Yes, it is a bigoted hypocrite viewpoint by the two different ways of saying a similar thing.
As a former NJ/NY mommy, I fled the wretched schools. They were HORRIBLE.
@lemon lime Anyone with more than one child has to leave NY if they want their kids to grow up and flourish.
My kids are not someone else's social experiment. My wife and I homeschooled our kids for 7 years. Now we send them to a private school. Government schools are completely out of the question. Why should I worry about the integration of government schools when I don't think government schools should exist in the first place?
Thank you for your commitment to your kids! For years I was fed the lie of homeschool children being "socially and culturally inept" What a bunch of BS. I have a B.A. in Liberal studies and I homeschool my kids and my younger cousins. Best decision I have ever made!
The problem is you are still taxed to subsidize the government's complete failure. Smh
Black and Latino students do not respect teachers they
more into Sports than perpareing them selves for higher learning.
@@tommylau5590 you have no idea what you're talkin about
Homeschooling your children will save them from crap schools, and those will make them far better educated than schooled children.
I agree 100% we as people are to fight more for home schooling
***** Good point,how long do you think they will stop the pretence completely, that we are free people, and the state serves us, so no time to lose, then at least our children will have the knowledge and ability to move somewhere more free possibly.
William Braganza Hanna I have yet to meet a homeschooled kid be smart or socially normal.
Home schooled kids are smart but usually socially weird from having their mum as their best friend. Best to let them deal with the world they are going to be forced to deal with eventually. The best thing you could do is get them self defence classes
@@MrGelly70 I don't think everyone can afford to sit home and teach there kids all day everyday
They are segregated because of freedom! Segregation is not a bad thing, government enforced segregation is a bad thing!
The issue is the all American institutionalised racism. If both schools have their own segregation but both schools have the same funding and same opportunities it is ok but reality is minorities schools are explicitly underfunded
+TheJess Ylleg
Racism didn't start nor is it exclusive to America ! It damn sure isn't pervasive in America, either! We have a black president for hell sakes! silly!
Daniel Holm You really do not understand housing.
The federal government encouraged segregation during the post World War II era, when less than 2% of 2,000,000 Black GI’s received VA home loans. Banks refused to give loans to black GI’s and the Federal government supported it. A majority of white wealth was created during this time. Please explain why the federal government would deny loans to black GI’s when the only qualifications were an honorable discharge and $1.00 down.
"Public schools have been the glue that has held our society together" Give.me.a.breakkkkkkkk
+The Light Public schools are the primary way for a government to overwrite a parent's values with the state's values.
They have. But when glue hardens, it snaps. And when glue snaps, the glued pieces fall apart.
Check out some of those schools in Detroit. It’s glue all right, but they’ve been sniffing it!
More like the sore that's festered and run all the way down to the ground
Our society has no glue, besides consumerism and materialism
Educated parents are always going to get their kids the best education possible, no matter how much social engineering goes on.
Agree blame the system an educated an cultured society
These black families need to take responsibility and not blame the community. I went to a mostly black school and it was the worst. Kids cuss at teachers, they did none of their work and turn around and blame the school system.
Because the school system is a part of a bigger issue. Years of racial discrimination from housing/red lining, access to education of their parents and more has led to these schools being disproportionately unequal and racially segregated. STOP acting as if race, education, and social economics do not go hand-in-hand
@True False smh you are part of the problem. Please stop with deflection. Honestly, it's tiresome and a weak argument. Black folks are sick of tired of lack of accountability. It's black ppl who made it and are successful. It's funny we can come up with every excuse but not a solution.
People don't want to live together.
If you force them you only create problems, not solutions.
It's a utopian delusion to think just putting people from different cultures together is progress.
Absolutely! Someone who gets it! W. Lecker is a f'n imbecile.
My son has a African American mother and I'm white. I don't want him to go to school with poor kids at all. Many children from those communities have piss poor parents and I refuse to have my child learning anything from those kids. I don't care what people have to say about that.
Tell that to the dumbocrats
Yall.people Re freaking sick fuck over the world then sit in your high horses it makes no sense how sick and evil people like u are
Jak Til how many people did blacks murder huh?
If I never hear the phrases "socioeconomic status" and "economically disadvantaged" again, it will be too soon. People just air-drop those into sentences to see if that makes an argument sound valid.
+Aaron Neighbour It's basically less loaded versions of "class" and "poor.
I'm a teacher at a school with 60% of kids that qualify for free or reduced lunch. I'm also on the campus improvement committee. I heard those words every day.
Sounds like you are a Social Justice Warrior. Those words are important They mean something Pay attention!!
Iq, iq, iq, iq, iq?????????
It's virtue signaling buzzwords for those on the left
Wendy Lecker is not the sharpest knife in the draw.She states the mission and apparently sole mission of schools as socialization .Whereas ,the true mission of schools should be to impart wisdom and skill.
+aramagoo 'socialization'? Interesting. It's like saying prisons should be mandatory to improve socialization. You don't teach socialization by forcing kids into schools. It's madness.
That is my point .
aramagoo I know. I was elaborating on it
Cool!
+aramagoo It's been proven that kids who go to racially diverse schools do better.
It seems that at least some of the re-segregation has been the result of self-segregation based on people choosing to live among other citizens with whom they feel the greatest sense of community. Diversity is of value only when the diverse elements have a common goal and self-select, not when diverse elements are aggregated at the whim of some external agency
Maybe. Do your research on government sanctioned segregation. Most segregation is not because people just like it that way. And did you not see the way that school zone was drawn? Clearly there is something else going on.
fnkyfreshT
School zones are drawn based on population, the smaller the population the larger the zone and vice wersa. Most of us prefer to reside in proximity to those with whom we feel an affinity. That affinity can be based on an almost endless number of reasons which can, and do , include ethnic origin, language, race, socio-economic commonality, proximity to parks, schools, shopping, entertainment etc.
I live in a neighborhood with people of great diversity but with common socio-economic preference. We chose to live here not because of what or who the neighbors were but because of how they lived, acted and related to each other. In other words we self segregated by choice not by compulsion as have so many others..
Dan Troop Not really. When my grandfather first moved into his neighborhood 50 years ago it was mostly white. Over the years the whites moved out and his fellow middle class black people moved in. Eventually they died from old age and now hispanics are moving in. The point. Because they houses were owned long term and never added to the flipping market their prices remained stable so compared to the rest of his local market the homes are cheap.
jemjean100 My uncle went to school in Pinellas before I was born. He had some funny stories about fuckin up white kids and cuban kids who called him names. After their ass whoopins the white kids left him alone. The cubans kept gettin their ass whooping cause of that machismo bullshit.
@@KnightofAntiquity Did your uncle bother to get educated between "ass whoopins?"
I'm willing to bet that a segregated ethnic Asian public school would be welcomed by Asian parents and will outperform any other school in New York. The magnet public schools already have massive majority Asian student population and excel. What do black and Latino parents think about that?
when i was a child we segregated by IQ. It's still the same.
All I can imagine is the total disaster "bussing" was to end "segregation" in my Detroit elementary school in the 60s.
All achievement standards dropped. Teachers spent half the day dealing with behavior problems from students.
Fights broke out everywhere.
It was awful.
People are pretty sick of egalitarian practices in their kids' education.
Families who pay the most expect more. Why should those who pay little or nothing expect the same advantages paid for by others?
+Jermanos Petalos
Well, Detroit doesn't have that to worry about anymore, does it?
TCBeads YOU ARE A RACIST!( SARCASM) LIBERAL HYPOCRISY
TCBeads lol
TCBeads I totally agree!!!!
@Jermanos Petalos
The computer your typing from would never be, if left up to the likes of you.
You, and folks like you, would be living a life of mere subsistence, if not for the technology of White and Yellow Man.
What is this PC bull shit? Unsubbed.
people naturally segregate - just look at churches - freedom of association, and almost always consist of mostly the same race/culture.
my question is, why is unforced segregation bad?
Apparently, because the state is unable to control it. Whether they are forcing segregation, or forcing integration, the objective is to eliminate the burden of choice from peoples' lives.
+fleetcenturion
Perfectly stated.
+heafy While this is true, do not discount economic factors. Arbitrary borders for school district are often motivated by socio economic status.
+Mr. Beat's Social Studies Channel but, wouldn't that be inherent? poor ppl live with poor ppl, wealthy ppl live around wealthy ppl, right? isn't that freedom of association?
heafy Unfortunately, no. The state chooses where to build public housing units, bringing poor people with no incentive to take care of their neighborhoods into higher income, well-maintained ones. There is bound to be friction between the two groups, and you can't really blame people from doing something about it, when they have the means to do so.
Imagine having to work alongside someone with the same job you have, knowing for a fact that he (though almost always, _she)_ is an affirmative action hire. It's the same kind of tension.
It's so weird to see a socialism being tried in a capitlaist society, and no one even thinking hmmmmm, maybe this is a bad idea
Boban Orlovic You are the biggest dumbfuck on youtube. Every society, capitalist, socialist, fascist, communist offers public education because it has the net benefit of citizens who are not absolute dumbfucks like yourself.
@@boredmind1383 I never said they did not. Who the duck are you responding too?
A lot of people should avoid the urge to reproduce. To seek be separated from people that have different goals does not make u racist. Next u should go after the Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn who take taxes for their private religious schools.... See if u can put a black kid there.
Edgardo Amado "avoid the urge to reproduce" = avoid the urge to have sex (in most cases)....sorry, not going to happen in a society that promotes sex. A written reply on TH-cam is not the proper forum for a proper response (my opinion), however; as a society lack overall morals. Children are sometimes innocent victims of their parents' poor choices.
Can someone please explain to me what benefit is derived for a decent kid that behaves himself, does his school work to the best of his ability, and wants to succeed by being forced into a situation where his main concern is survival, not achievement?
Apburner: There isn't any, which is one of the primary causes of "white flight." White parents, justifiably, don't want their children to be sacrificed on the liberal altar of integration.
@apburner1,
"Survival"?! It is mostly *children of European descent who execute* their classmates and teachers with automatic rifles, mate.
@@JimInTally Few and far between? Actually, random shootings by white students is very common and when they kill, they take out 30-60 students at a time..
@@sashacooke263:Au contraire!! Mass shootings by white students are extremely rare and constitute a TINY fraction of the gun murders each year.
@@JimInTally It happens far too often and again, many die, when it happens.
I don't think many people would sacrifice their child to the alter of social justice. She's blaming teachers and administrators. What is quality of the parenting like?
So even after years of equality segregation forms naturally?
and we also see the outcome, 1 group does well other not so well,
U should all go and look up redlining and the fair housing act of 1968. Also, a lot of schools historically have been funded based off of property taxes. When communities are underprivileged and less affluent there is most likely a poor public education there.
Wendy Lecker: "When the parents finally see things my way, which we achieve by educating them my way, then they will see the wisdom of my methods. It's really that simple. I have faith in the parents' ability to that my way is the right way".
Demanding access to someone's children is a special kind of creepy.
Segragation by IQ and property tax is not racial segregation
Rachel Holtzman you never heard of redlining in the inner cities?
Since when white people have higher IQ. Poor Eastern and Southern European countries must be an exception then.
Its racial when children are giving different schools systems and all come from the same community
No. But certain groups have more intelligence and discipline, they get better scores, and generate more value.
It's amazing how segregated New York is.
Schools are merely books and buildings at heart, it's the quality and character of the student and parents that make a school great.
“Public schools have been the glue that holds society together?” As a metropolitan educator in the US, I can’t just leave that comment there. Public schools and systems are broken- for students and teachers, therefore the “community” is broken. I love teaching. I love my students and give my all. It takes an enormous deal of love from above, energy, perseverance, long suffering and patience.
I (and my fellow educators) have experienced parents daily giving the “bird” (because they don’t want to follow the dismissal procedures) cursing us, at least one attempting to run over me in their car while on after school duty (police report filed), and falsely accusing teachers of every sort of imaginary offense (almost always unfounded). How can that school experience help society? That stupidity follows repeated days of receiving the same nonsense X10 that they’ve modeled for their children on a daily basis. Is that the “society” and the “glue” of which you speak?
Those behaviors only divide and continue to disintegrate the society especially when you bring factors of race and culture, politics, and economics into the conversation. Further, you have administrators and their superiors unwilling to support teachers who have been consistently treated as mentioned, all the while putting on a facade of growth and success with branding on social media, community platforms, and websites. Truth is, for the sake of making sure each school and district gets their taxpayer funding, they cover up failing schools, gloss over demographic truths with inflated statistics, and continue to perpetuate the narrative that all is going well. As long as we continue this political game that is being played with stories like this, the public school system (with a few exceptions) will be broken. If it’s broken can it really be the glue? Additionally, this story of “resegregation” only continues to perpetuate divisions among cultures and people in general. That is about control of those who control the narrative. And really, what genuine, knowledgeable, loving and committed educator would intentionally segregate schools and children.
I have watched students of many races and cultures inevitably gravitate toward those with whom they most identify. Inevitably, African students want to be with Africans (mostly). African American students will mostly gravitate toward AA students, Kurdish, White, and Latino do the same. They are segregating themselves for personal reasons and reasons of identification. When they want to play or learn with others, they do. However, they always end up going back to where they are most comfortable. As an educator, I would never presume to think that my ideas of who kids should play with, sit with, or learn with should be thrust upon them against their will or desires. Professional educators and the so-called intellectuals believe they know best and force integration. Ask the local congregants of a mostly white or African American church to start integrating and see how that works. Stories like this (might be well-intentioned, although I doubt it) continue to create division.
Each state and community is tasked with being fiscally and morally responsible for equity and equality in educational decisions. History tells us that leadership ( politicians, superintendents, school leaders, parents and students) will either be responsible or squander their opportunities. Make sure that every school has equal opportunity to succeed. Some will. Some won’t. People are broken. Families are broken. We need healing in such an amazing way.
Finally, I will continue you to argue and believe that we need to spend more on rehabilitating families and communities. Let’s stop throwing money at infrastructure and development of policies, and politically correct checklists, and put money into family counseling and programs that build up the foundation of our children.
Families should be the glue that holds a community together. Do that, and the a community can be greater. Even more, do those things and our schools can be more successful. Family first. Everything else after. If public schools are the glue, then our allegiances are very misplaced. Families should be the glue in every community. I will continue to teach public school children because I was one of them. Nevertheless, public schools are not, and never will be the glue that holds society together.
Go outside and touch grass
@@dukeofmonmouth1956 Well said, troll, hiding behind a screen with no subscribers. Take your medicine and be present in this world.
I'll support the type of school choice Bloomberg did. Increase school funding and offer more charter, alternative, and private voucher programs while increasing the budget overall for public schooling. This will offer more school choice without keeping disadvantaged people segregated and not demolishing all the funding for the already existent public schools.
"You take from her. When you get older she's gonna take from you!" (Self satisfied aggrandizement mic-drop.) This kind of thinking could be a problem. Maybe? The idiocy behind that thinking, or the ignorance about how it could ever come to pass, are the obstacles that will never allow diversity to happen.
Economic disadvantage has nothing to do with work ethic, discipline nor intelligence or talent. It is about CULTURE. Asians often come here with ZERO, and more at a disadvantage than Americans i.e. blacks, however, Asian culture instills discipline, respect for elders, industry and sacrifice so Asian children are going to naturally behave well and do exceptionally well in school based on their culture and beliefs. For Asians, education is the panacea to poverty.
Jiliane Morales you make some good points, but they are (in my opinion) overshadowed by the generalized statements.
Everything Lucky You’re right. I know there are blacks that far exceed the standards like my idol, Dr. Ben Carson. However, other blacks are not proud of him. They crucify him every chance they get so children get the impression that working hard and excelling is equivalent to betraying your own people. That gives them the idea that they are supposed to be handed success in a silver platter i.e affirmative action (which Dr. Carson abhors, by the way), and not reaching the standards means they were discriminated against. If only they see individuals like Dr. Carson as the norm, as the fine example of an individual, then and only then, the culture takes a major shift, and the results will be amazing!
@@EverythingLucky Statistics turned those generalisation into facts. People's intuitions are actually correct
Asians have the highest rate of poverty in New York City.
All you have to do is spend an hour in a black school and you can answer this question self evidently.
I went to an elementary school in Queens that was pretty good back then. It consistently had top scores- many people in my class were in advanced maths, and we actually got max scores in standarized testing.
Then it diversified.
Olivia esddms 😂 And believing that if they came to your school, they would suddenly begin performing well. Because they (whomever they are) want what you have and realized that learning and higher scores had to be earned rather that doled out like a free meal. Doesn’t work that way, does it? 🙄
I can almost guarantee this woman's children go to private school.
Diversity isn't something to be valued or not to be valued. Being different isn't a value judgement.
Making yourself valuable to other people will make a more diverse group of people want to interact with you.
It's that simple.
George Christiansen totally agree. Maybe, tolerance, is a better word than diversity.
In my country there is no such thing as a school discrict. Your neighbourhood has a local school, you can chose to send your kid that that school because its close or you can chose to send your kid to a school halfway across the city because you think its a better school. The better schools in the city accept students based on their academic achievement, not proximity of residence. I for example graduated high school from a school that was outside of my neighbourhood. Changed 2 bus lines in order to get there. Many parents wants their kids to get admitted to the elite public schools which most often than not have names such as: English Langugage High School #1, English Langugage High School #2, Math and Science High School, German Langugage High School #1, French Language High School #1 - those are really rough and ugly translations but you get the point. Those schools only accept the highest achieving students. Especially the math and science ones. I think this merit based system is better.
But this system works only if kids are the same race and similar IQ! Here in USA it will end up in worst segregation ever because all Black kids will end up in worst schools and White and Asian in the best! In my country, we had the same system as you, but here in the USA, it can't work...
The truth of the true problem isn't being addressed. You can't teach if you can't control the students.
I assume you were a teacher at some point?
Diversity quotas are a nightmare
I have mixed views about segregation and diversity in general. on one hand in the ideal world people would all go to one place (school, work place, housing etc..) and people will get along, work together and so on. In time we will become more understanding of each other and become more united as a community and as a nation.
But on the other hand, people don't get along. Because there are racial lines, economic lines, cultural lines, and so on that divides people naturally. In the real world there are meaningful divides that are important to people. People may feel unwelcome in some places because of demographics (race, class, culture). If you are middle class, would you send your kids to a school that is mostly poor and under performing? Mostly likely not. There are real reasons why segregation still exist to this day.
the answer is somewhere in the middle. But the government should not force people to integrate. It must be done naturally by choice.
Charter school data shows they rarely perform better than public schools
Now we need economical equality too. Straight communism
I feel bad for the parents that are gonna be forced to put their kids in these nasty schools , the only solution is to move to the suburbs or private school .
Liberals cry 😢 it’s unfair. A wise man would ask WHY is it like that. Personally my wife and I wouldn’t send our kids our most precious ones to a school populated with a bunch of single mother raised, violent, and disrespectful kids that look at the success my wife and I enjoy through HARD WORK AND EDUCATION!!! as some how oppressing them
Trying to go against a parent's (of any race) natural instinct to want the best for their child is an uphill battle. Any kind of initiative that doesn't have this as its basis is doomed to fail.
In what way did the diversity of universities accepting black applicants with 200 SAT points lower in score or affirmative action that pushed out a white or Asian kid that are smarter make it better or a " strength" . This is not " elevating " anyone that is poor or black, it is dragging down the rest.
Which one does Kanye West send his children to?
The “intact traditional” family is the cure for most of these problems . And self accountability also .
United We Stand 🇺🇸
Forced Diversity on Metropolitan Liberals. They have to stand by their morals, principles, and ideologies. Liberals are a bunch of hypocrites that hate diversity when it gets too close to home.
I recently moved from a county in Florida that has controlled choice to a county that does not. My family spent more on our new home to get into a better school district. It seems ridiculous that anyone would oppose school choice if they care about equality. Also, the busses in our old county operated by the needs of the family despite the distance.
Upper middle-class moves to P 307, P307 gets great, P8 gets worse, then they want to switch. A group is just a bunch of people.
Most races if not all, wouldn't want to send their children to a majority black school
Wendy, what is up with your hair. Did you put coconut oil in it because it makes you feel more ethnic?
Social engineering rarely works. Let's talk facts, not opinions, or what we wish was true.
You want your kids in a better school, move to a better area with higher property cost and more taxes that pay for the school.
Forcing people to group together is not good. It just creates a false reality. Let it be natural. We all should be proud of our race , culture, and talent.
Black people have to change. Notice the white parents seem calm and at peace. Many of the black parents seem stressed and defensive.
"predominantly minority"
Majority Minority lol.
They just use the word minority for non white. Pretty soon the majority will be the minority everywhere.
There won't be a country on earth for white folk.
best to tear the projects down and build scatter-site housing in the wealthier areas. Wealthy parents are not going to want to send their kids to underperforming schools but they will if there is no alternative. The program will work best if the suburbs are included.
I love how the advocates for rezoning in the public school sphere are just refusing to say what really needs to be done - FREE THE SCHOOL AND LET IT IMPROVE ITSELF. The union-founded bureaucratic mire is what is preventing these schools from succeeding, where principals can't make ANY meaningful changes to staffing or procedure. This has already been established, but the union lobby continues to deny that they are the problem. Get the hell out of the way and let schools focus on kids. For all their talk of diversity and demographics, have any of them once stopped and considered the quality of education as a subject?
Lol... Public Schools holding our county together
This sounds like good old fashioned bussing.
This Wendy Lecker is living in a delusional fantasy world of unicorns and rainbows, if she thinks that people with options will opt for her fantasies. They will choose what they think is academically best for their kids.
There's no excuse, hasn't any one heard of libraries? Or the Internet? What's stopping anyone from learning what they need to?
Segregation has ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE in Brooklyn, especially not in schools! Children
should be able to study together, regardless of their ethnicity.
Black brothers and sisters stop playing victim pool your resources and get your money up.
I went to a mixed high school, we don't have many blacks (like 3 out of 1000 students) but we do have alot of East Indians, Asians and other races and a mix of poor and rich to be honest I thought the school was nice till my last year I switched schools to an almost all white school and everyone was around the middle class and much more friendly... I regret not switching sooner. Not against this idea of mixed schools as my friends are all mixed. I don't agree with Sharian law!
Tinder inc Sharian law. Way to prove that this entire post was horseshit.
Schools are segregated because neighborhoods are segregated.
I know this is silly. But has anyone tried focusing on getting the kids good education instead???
I predict that if the school zones are changed you will see real estate values drop in the PS 8 area. I also predict that there will be more private schools, or home schooling in the wealthier area. Get out of the cities now!
It surprises me how backwards the North Eastern United States is towards public education. Most metropolitans are embracing school choice to amazing success. Before school choice, several larger metropolitans had students compete to get into High Schools.
Kevin Smith School choice is a horrible idea.
@@KnightofAntiquity school choice is the way to go, anybody who sends their kid to a public school should be arrested for child endangerment.
@@kercchan3307 You already have school choice. Its been around even before the burgeoning of charter schools. Modern day school choice takes resources away from public schools and gives them to for profit education companies. Worst yet, the standards required of them is far lower. Public Schools with less resources = poorer results. Poorer results = legislators cutting funding as a punishment. Jeb Bush was the biggest dipshit on the planet for starting that horse shit in Florida.
@@kercchan3307 You find disruptive dumb kids even at good schools so your argument is moot. Moreover, punishing schools for poor test scores is a major reason why the continue to have poor test scores. They usually have old tools, equipment, books, etc that could be updated. They lacl the resources to provide tutoring for students as needed after school. My school was public and our english and math teachers had an open door policy after school for an hour of tutoring at your request.
@@KnightofAntiquity you have the state position that is pro union. School choice is the best option the only option, allowing students to go to the school of their choice provided a postilion is available works best for that student, this of course means the parents have to care in the first place and be welfare druggie.
all education should be merit based if a student continues to fail school even with help that is the students fault, faster learners should be able to learn at their speed and slower learners should get the same treatment. Holding back smarter students to go at the speed of the slower learner is cruel and is punishment they will get bored and might get disruptive because their bored.
You could spend $100,000 per pupil in a government run school and they would probably have worse test results in basic scores such as math and English. whereas a private or charter school could spend a fraction of that and get vastly better results most of the time. bad charter schools tend to die where as bad government run schools never die.
Let us blacks be alone to fix our problems. Integration was horrible for black neighborhoods. Black children are less likely to learn from white women who are the lead of people holding the teacher titles. #Facts
Agreed. We should not let our children near each other.
Diversity is great but let people live where they want and if their desire is to be segregated, let them. Segregation happens by choice quite frequently. And sometimes it doesn't. And both are fine.
I think parents, especially mine would be concerned about the following more than diversity:
1. Quality of teaching
2. Performance of students
3. Safety of student
4. Programs available
All else means very little. People want the best available options to have a good outcome.
If you exclude black and hispanic student scores America becomes competitive again.
The most recent PISA results, from 2015, placed the U.S. an unimpressive 38th out of 71 countries in math and 24th in science.
When US racial and ethnic groups are separately compared with other countries, Asian and white students regularly perform at or near the top of international rankings, while
black and Hispanic students typically rank at or near the bottom.
Source:
www.google.com/url?q=files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED535873.pdf&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjnlfWh6MvcAhWptVkKHT_wB_sQFggTMAI&usg=AOvVaw2FUUkhchMTGMSg2cZFAMqV
We are in a fight for meritocracy and the freedom of association.
No one wants to speak the truth an reality how come millions of Asian kids are doing the best in schools an colleges
As a born and raised Native Nyker pre gentrification, let me leave... lol. I have NOTHING nice to say.
“He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me,” in those who harbour such thoughts hatred will never cease.
“He abused me, he beat me, he defeated me, he robbed me,” in those who do not harbour such thoughts hatred will cease.
It going created bullying because certain areas are more prone for poverty and with proverbs brings a lot of massive problems. Kids coming from dysfunctional homes it going cause bullying and make those kids coming from better home life miserable. I personally experienced this with my son the kids were very aggressive and I immediately had to remove my son there were always an accident with my son
segregation now segregation for ever
Let people choose their schools and they can go to the school that matches their child and their values. Diversity with skin color or income is not good, but you can’t force people with totally different values to make something work together. Sometimes the best matches of students will come from very different backgrounds, but you can’t find those matches without choice.
Charter schools could be amazing, however since they do have so much leeway there is much room for corruption. I was an AmeriCorps at a place that became a charter school the next year, they were supposed to have an AmeriCorps artist and a certified teacher together integrating art into the craft classroom. However instead they had AmeriCorps‘s (which the government pays not the school, and pays them less than minimum-wage may I add) teaching classes alone but getting funding for the teachers that they didn’t have. It turned out the heads of the school were paying themselves more than the superintendent of the entire district, and some of the AmeriCorps teachers didn’t even have a degree. It was a huge scam.
Yikes! This is one of the reasons why there are so many underperforming schools. It's the corruption!
It’s not the governments job to force diversity. If people want to live amongst their own culture leave them alone and let them do what they want
You want to force Black kids from the existing failed public schools to a successful school sounds so honorable on the surface. But nobodies addressing why these schools in mostly black areas are failing! It's like abandoning your car becasue you neglected to take care of it, and forcing yourself in another persons car who's been responsible in taking care of it. And it's not the childrens fault, it's the irresponsible adults and local NY politicians who continue to make false promises they can't keep!
Parents have the right to send their children to good schools.
Standardize all public school. Income shouldn't be a factor in the quality of education offered..
The school should be separated by kids IQs regardless of their social class. Kids have an IQ of 86 and Kids with IQ of 120 should not be put in the same classroom. Because they learn things at a different speed. It would be difficult for a teacher to meet both kids needs at the same time. Believe me, my mother was a high school physics teacher. She could teach smart and slow kids to understand the same thing but not in the same way. The best classroom would be grouped by kids with IQ within one standard deviation which is 15 points.
i became successful because my parents chose to put me in a private school instead of a public school where i could've been stabbed or killed.
What do u do for a living?
6yrs later and nyc parents have found a way to self separate inside public schools, using Honor class, talented and gifted and AP . Manhattan parents are not falling for the Charter Schools either. I have never seen this my daughter will most likely will be in hs with only children of African descent in NYC unbelievable.
black women : "Stop taking whats ours".
imagine white women saying samething, everyone will be up in arms
1:35 Reason needs to be better informed on the subject before presuming the rest of the country is like New York, in Indiana you can send you kid to any public school you choose no matter where you live in the state. The State pays each school a dollar amount for each kid that attends that particular school.
I was curious, what happened now? House prices and zoning?
What's that guy doing on the front steps at 0:47-0:48? Stretching? Davening? What's he carrying under his R arm?
those who are well off will just move to a good school district. the result will be higher crime and crappier schools.
I watched it for 6 seconds and started feeling sick to my stomach. Six seconds was too much.
School is the number one institution that teaches segregation on multiple levels racism and it's sad you're only just now seeing it
Is this lawyer have kids going there?
If families still have to pay state/city taxes towards education even if they attend charter schools, doesn't that inherently bias attendance in charter schools towards high income families who can afford this extra cost? That being said, I don't understand how the expansion of charter schools like the ones referenced in the video can promote economic class diversity as long as public schools remain the primary form of education in America. While school choice seems like a viable solution for many of the problems with education, I don't think individual efforts by charter schools can make substantial changes while the government continues to dominate education in districts across the nation. If anything, they will only exacerbate the issue of economic segregation (presented in the video as negative) by providing choices exclusive to wealthier parents who want to escape the redistricting and forced efforts of integration by city officials.