No disrespect to Arnold Schwarzenegger because he was, is and always will be an an inspiration to many including myself, but lets face it, Joe Weider opened many doors for him. He was effectively, at least in Joe Weider's eyes the goose that laid the golden egg.
@@ridiculous_gaming Remember Weider's success started with the first Mr. America 1936 ... though Arnold became the Golden Calf from 1970 and even to this very day they milk his success on all global media....
Arnold is the most snake and egomaniac man of this sport ,the density and lines of modern bodybuilding nowadays are much more impressive and balance ,Arnold has a lot of marketing around him ,in Yates era Arnold doesn't finish top 10,this is a dialog I have with Mr Kevin Levrone in 1995 in Lisbon.
Many will argue Arnold destroyed the sport with his buckets of steroids. So don't hate Yates for taking it to the next level. Yes Yates did start the ballooning but he did not look pregnant, he just looked more extreme.
No disrespect to Yates but Arnold made bodybuilding from freak show to mainstream. Arnold had charisma, charm, style and a great sense of humour. Film star, California Governor and total inspiration to millions. Yates maybe a great bodybuilder but his life in comparison to Arnold is like a Black and White TV Vs Colour
@@theophany1770 I’m not a Californian, living in America or an American so am probably not the right person to ask. But I’ll hazard a guess that he was better than Gavin Newson. Even from over here in the UK we can see what an idiot he is; much like our very own Kier Starmer
He was never a republican, or I should say a real conservative. He was a plant that was more than willing to fill the part. It is all obvious now and not many here will understand how underrated your comment is. Dorian on the other hand knows the truth about WW2 and speaks it. Yates is a true man's man who carved his own path on his own terms.
@@mr.marino9247 Does it really matter? Its a drug cult with its contests taken all so seriously by fans that now for me it just seems all so odd and weird.
And yet so many now seem to have forgotten and think what a great man (i use that term very loosely) he is when all he is is a puppet for his handlers.
lol Weider was behind him because he was the best . Serge didn’t have the size , neither did Danny Padilla who isn’t even a consideration to win anything but when they had short man Olympia . Sergio was too smooth
I'm surprised with all the knowledge Arnold has in the sport of body building, that he couldn't grasp the concept of body building has evolved from his era...Arnold being in his hey-days of body building during the 1970's & 80's he was huge compared to the top body builders of the 1950's - 60's ...body building had evolved from the training techniques of the 50's - 60's. So why is Arnold surprised that the era of the 1990's body builders and those going into the 2000's are much bigger then they were during his days of the 70' & 80's...
Arnold's 1974 physique was out of this world, but to me the physique that Dorian brought to that 1993 black and white photoshoot was the epitome of bodybuilding. Dorian at his best looked like he was literally carved out of granite...
There's nothing wrong with having different opinions. It doesn't mean you have to "clash" and turn it into a drama show. Schwarzenegger was a great showman, great charisma with a fantastic bone structure that jacked and stacked looked great. The bad thing about it is in that era body building started to be a beauty contest, where the most marketable guy won. Things had to change. Either you want bigger, better definition, or you want fashion models. Whatever you want you have to be honest about what the competition is.
Dorian was 5'11" 265. Arnold at 6'2" and 240. Then you have technology. Science got more involved. Its not comparable. Arnold had that crazy upper body. Listen to what the king of body building says about arnold... that's all you really need to hear.
One thing is certain, the Golden Era was overall healthier than the Mass Monsters. Yates took better care of himself than most. He respected his body and once he retired he didn’t let his ego get in the way and he downsized. I respect both men personally (outside of their bodybuilding careers).
This video sucks. None of the clips are about the topic but random comments about liking oiled up men. It repeats itself over and over (70s vs 90s mentioned 3 times) and does not show that Dorian “hates” Arnold.
Arnolds era was depicting Greek Gods and super heroes. The 90s contenders with Yates pumped out monsters that missed symmetry. An arnold poster is motivational, while the Yates look, is appreciated, but not inspiring.
Watching Dorian and Arnolds training, reps, Arnold was and still training accurately and millions of people motivated, but Dorians training was nearly wrong. Dorians, Ronnie stomach and Arnolds says everything
@@gipsybulldog3286 compared to goldenage bodybuilders since 90's their reps and styles of workouts are not full and exact. Most trainers says this. For example bent over row..because of their stomach, heavy weight I havent seen their workout in bars, hangings. Also watch Arnolds trainings.
If it wasn't for Joe Weider racism against black bodybuilders Robbie Robinson who got banned from the IFBB for speaking the truth would be the king of bodybuilding over Arnold
Nobody came close to the classic Arnold Schwarzenegger Mr universe physique. There's a reason why they put them in movies because he was so incredibly amazing looking. They doped him up on roids but it seemed like he was natty because of his physique was so balanced and his height helped in that. I'm not impressed with most of the new bodybuilders they all look like super doped out skinned bears. Tren bologna sandwiches all day long. Nothing special anymore.
Yates had a slight bubble gut and was stocky looking like a steroid fed bull. Arnold had a classic, aesthetic form like ferrigno and Zane. Anyone of them could have won depending on the criteria of no doubt paid judges.
Arnold age 19, no steriods genetically gifted amazing physique. Arnold on stage 10/10 pleasing to the eye in every way. Dorian gigantic mass steriod overloaded, but with amazing symmetry for size. 😅
Yates followed Mentzer's and Arthur jones' heavyduty,high intensity low volume,Arnold followed high volume.It was a different bodybuilding protocol that divided them.
Not at all. The training methods have very little impact. They all work equally as hard. Some guys are just better responders to low volume; that's mostly down to genetics. They all are taking sets close to or to complete mechanical failure. High intensity in this context only refers to the load and rep numbers. Which we now know has very little impact when it comes to hypertrophy.
Arnold vs Dorian, no comparison. Arnold transcended bodybuilding into being a movie star and Politics with a personality and drive no one has matched to this day.
Arnold is a serial misogynist and has a history of sexually harassing women. Dozens of women have come forward to testify against this disturbed individual. Let's not forget Arnold spent taxpayers money to try to erase the sex scandals while running for governor. Arnold was tapped for the Gubermatorial run at the occult entrance at the Bohemian Grove and rubbed elbows with the Illuminati at the Rothschild family home. This is one, sick, twisted, narcissistic, lying, con man running around. Let's not forget that he was drug infested, homosexual prostitute back in the day
Arnold made history. That's a fact, Yates won't be remembered for too much longer....Arnold made the golden era, whether we like it or not....despite the fact that anabolic steroids were used...Yates came around at the start of the mutant era...
It's always Arnold or Dorian, the athletic or mass standard. I have respect for both of them, as bodybuilder and person. Arnold impressed me by his mass but after Dorian he was lean to me. I was about 20 years old in the early 80's and impressed by Arnold but at that age you are easier to impress than at age 60 😊 They set new standards both so for me it's not Arnold or Dorian but Arnold and Dorian. Yes and it's clear much hate by Heavy Duty fans against Arnold is because of the 1980 Olympia. The Jones, Mentzer and Yates way of training has more logic to me than the ' more is better ' way from Arnold but Arnold set a new standard too in despite of too much volume.
Arnie's era looked like superheroes, Dorian's (and to this day) looked like weirdly bloated He-man figures. It's a shame Levrone, Ray and Wheeler had to compete in Dorian's era as I think they'd of done well in the aesthetic 70s.
All one needs to know as how many surgeries Arnold had to have and then look at the over all death rate of bodybuilders. They are not very healthy and they look no different,some even worse,then the general older generation. It seams that all their hard work was just for posing and disappeared quite rapidly with age😊
Dorian Yates was on every drug possible. Never liked him. And after he stopped lifting and or taking gear he looked terrible. Just look at him after he stopped competing. Arnold always looked great.
To these "experts" (whom probably dont bench over 250 lb, arms less than 17" no legs etc.) whom want to rave about the "aesthetics" you are ALL politely reminded that the sport is BODY BUILDING!! Look at Markus Ruhl and or Paul Dillet they have at least 15 kg on Arnold and bodyfat below 7%. Not to mention that for the mid 70's Arnold WAS considered a mass monster. It IS about size at this level of competition and Yates was proof of that... not to mention his definition, condition, proportions and symmetry were EASILY as good as Arnold. Just a BIGGER version.
C'mom... Arnold had much more than all this cow bellies has today... [exclusively myself winning 1985 Natural Mr. America, and now at 72 posing you out also... TRX in the park...only] :D
The alleged "disagreements" aside, bottom line: after doing heavy steroids and numerous other drugs for the duration of their career, on retirement they ended up physical wrecks. Ronnie Coleman is paralyzed due to multiple abuses he has made on his body.
@@darrell9294 He had multiple surgeries throughout his body attempting to correct the damage he inflicted on himself by using super-heavy weights. This being only part of his health issues, the surgeries were unsuccessful ending him in a wheel-chair. I doubt if he still does steroids but he has to take a bucketful of other pills and pain-killers to see the day through. He claims it was worth it.
Yeah... Dorian didn't bring intensity and mass to IFBB or Olympia. He was so hopped up on steroids that no one else had a chance and had to basically follow suit in order to be competitive. I hate the way that period of bodybuilders looked. Un-natural, no proportions, no physique. It was about who was the most freakishly huge and had 0% bodyfat... There's plenty of interviews where Dorian talks about how what he did, with taking steroids, insulin, etc probably wasn't the best idea and contributed to his health issues today... I hate that this documentary doesn't even touch on that and makes Dorian to be some sort of awesome trendsetter... shame on this channel.
Dorian is a different kind of beast. Wether or not people think its "good looking", Dorian took bodybuilding to another level. Arnold was mostly genetics.
“Screw your freedom.”
Are u still going on about that 😂
@@ThouSwell-zx3fd
It's one of those things you tend to take for granted, and when they're gone, you wish you really hadn't.
You having your periods again?
This is why I hate him. He's aligned with the establishment and doesn't care about the average person on the street.
@@ThouSwell-zx3fdYeah, we’re still going on about this! Only an idiot liberal wouldn’t.
Lee Haney was the last great real bodybuilder before the sport went into bloaty building subclass.
@@robvegart well your opinion
Bro overrated af
@@gabrielgiorgio-dormon8495 after Lee Haney men started 'having babies', and aesthetics was lost.
@@gabrielgiorgio-dormon8495 after Lee Haney men started 'having babies', and aesthetics was lost.
Lee Haney was a bigger pos than Arnold.
Glad no one really talks about him.
No disrespect to Arnold Schwarzenegger because he was, is and always will be an an inspiration to many including myself, but lets face it, Joe Weider opened many doors for him. He was effectively, at least in Joe Weider's eyes the goose that laid the golden egg.
Arnold looked great but got to admit he never had legs those calves was small. Frank Zane was 100% perfect
@@DennisCraig-f4qZane looked inzane... but I take him out today at 72 y/r + Praise Jesus for that ALSO ❤
Remember that Joe Weider's success was also due to Arnold, Lou F and the other popular builders of the 70s and 80s.
@@DennisCraig-f4qI liked Zane and appreciated them all, but Arnold had amazing symmetry. He was very inspirational for young body builders.
@@ridiculous_gaming Remember Weider's success started with the first Mr. America 1936 ... though Arnold became the Golden Calf from 1970 and even to this very day they milk his success on all global media....
I love Dorian Yates, but Arnold had that classic bodybuilding physique that looked so good before the mass monsters
I agree he had that Greek god body, not like the mutant freak bodybuilder type
Arnold was legless!
Look at Mike Mentzer.That is in my opinion the perfect physique.Piece of art,a real Greek god ceramic statue in the flesh
@@adambrown6573 it’s because he was only using testosterone not human growth these bodybuilders now look pregnant
Anabol "The Joke" Steroidzenloser
Yates and Arnold are two decades apart. Arnold was off making movies during Dorian’s run.
It was also a clash of personalities. Arnold was charismatic and highly sociable, while Yates was an intense, moody loner.
True. But Arnold isn’t a good guy at all. Charismatic, driven , successful. But he’s not a GOOD man. Just an observation
@@biglongunArnold walks with the Rothschilds. His father was a Nazi general, etc.
@@biglongunArnold was the poster child. Poor boy from a forgein mountain village glorifing americanism to the core more than most born US citizens.
Dorian destroyed the good shape of body building which Arnold , Zane and Haney created
You’re slow
@@kojoefante you are low
Anabol "The Joke" Steroidzenloser
Arnold is the most snake and egomaniac man of this sport ,the density and lines of modern bodybuilding nowadays are much more impressive and balance ,Arnold has a lot of marketing around him ,in Yates era Arnold doesn't finish top 10,this is a dialog I have with Mr Kevin Levrone in 1995 in Lisbon.
Many will argue Arnold destroyed the sport with his buckets of steroids.
So don't hate Yates for taking it to the next level.
Yes Yates did start the ballooning but he did not look pregnant, he just looked more extreme.
No disrespect to Yates but Arnold made bodybuilding from freak show to mainstream. Arnold had charisma, charm, style and a great sense of humour. Film star, California Governor and total inspiration to millions. Yates maybe a great bodybuilder but his life in comparison to Arnold is like a Black and White TV Vs Colour
Was he good at being Governor?
@@theophany1770 I’m not a Californian, living in America or an American so am probably not the right person to ask. But I’ll hazard a guess that he was better than Gavin Newson. Even from over here in the UK we can see what an idiot he is; much like our very own Kier Starmer
@@theophany1770No he SUCKED!!
That being said, the previous comment is still true.
... and Yates heralded the return to freakshow.
As an artist, if I want to draw a perfect muscular body, it would be Arnold Dorian however, his body was massive, but not as pleasing to the eye
For me as an artist...Frank Zane. Respect.
How was Arnold perfect? Elaborate
From "Conan the Republican" to the ultimate US ZOG shill.
He was never a republican, or I should say a real conservative.
He was a plant that was more than willing to fill the part.
It is all obvious now and not many here will understand how underrated your comment is.
Dorian on the other hand knows the truth about WW2 and speaks it.
Yates is a true man's man who carved his own path on his own terms.
Once the abs went from small to barrel then it's not bodybuilding it's just steroid shooting
Arnold used them and plenty of them as well.
@@shaundouglas2057 And that wasn't good either.
@@shaundouglas2057 Of course, natural bodybuilding per se will never exist. But Arnold never deformed the aesthetics parameters, you know.
@@mr.marino9247 Does it really matter? Its a drug cult with its contests taken all so seriously by fans that now for me it just seems all so odd and weird.
@@shaundouglas2057 it matters in matters of greek god shape.
Worst editing ever.
Yeah, pretty drawn out video
When Arnie said "screw your freedom" i said F U ! Dorian on the other hand knows how to go on.
You fakken' belend, clown, yank! 😂
“Screw your freedoms” Arnold Schwarzenegger… Never forget, never forgive
Huh?
And yet so many now seem to have forgotten and think what a great man (i use that term very loosely) he is when all he is is a puppet for his handlers.
Pathetic. If exercising your freedoms means hurting ither people, then indeed, screw your freedoms
@@HoistusMaximus Not if those other people are also hurting you and themselves by screwing your freedoms
@@SynValorum, which they weren't, so moot point
I lost respect when he said "screw your freedom".
aww what a fragile girl
So where's the bit when Dorian says he hates Arnie ?
He won because Joe weider was behind him. Ask Serge,Danny and sergio
Because It was the boss😂
Arnold at his best blew the three of them away.
Arnold Did the best exercises which no one still could do properly
@@ThouSwell-zx3fdbs
lol Weider was behind him because he was the best . Serge didn’t have the size , neither did Danny Padilla who isn’t even a consideration to win anything but when they had short man Olympia . Sergio was too smooth
Arnold's ALWAYS been a grade A cant.
"Take the jab if you want to live"
that was when Arnold became dead to me.
Great story
Your should write a book about it
@@change_your_oil_regularly4287 And you will never be a real woman.
I'm surprised with all the knowledge Arnold has in the sport of body building, that he couldn't grasp the concept of body building has evolved from his era...Arnold being in his hey-days of body building during the 1970's & 80's he was huge compared to the top body builders of the 1950's - 60's ...body building had evolved from the training techniques of the 50's - 60's. So why is Arnold surprised that the era of the 1990's body builders and those going into the 2000's are much bigger then they were during his days of the 70' & 80's...
Dorian wasn't Arnold and he just couldn't handle it.
What?
Despite the current focus of being mass monsters, I'm with Arnold. A chiseled, symmetrical body looks far better.
Arnold's 1974 physique was out of this world, but to me the physique that Dorian brought to that 1993 black and white photoshoot was the epitome of bodybuilding. Dorian at his best looked like he was literally carved out of granite...
Absolutely! When I was 21 I ripped the page out and taped it to my basement wall! Dorian f'n ROCKS!!!
There's nothing wrong with having different opinions. It doesn't mean you have to "clash" and turn it into a drama show. Schwarzenegger was a great showman, great charisma with a fantastic bone structure that jacked and stacked looked great. The bad thing about it is in that era body building started to be a beauty contest, where the most marketable guy won. Things had to change. Either you want bigger, better definition, or you want fashion models. Whatever you want you have to be honest about what the competition is.
Dorian was 5'11" 265. Arnold at 6'2" and 240. Then you have technology. Science got more involved. Its not comparable. Arnold had that crazy upper body. Listen to what the king of body building says about arnold... that's all you really need to hear.
Nobody's perfect but Arnold is a legend. 😎
And a fraud.
@@shaundouglas2057 Talk to the hand! 🖐🏼😆
@@ynghuch He's also a rothschilds stooge, a puppet if ever their was one.
@@ynghuch And a puppet for the rothschilds.
@@ynghuch 'Screw your freedom' but what would you expect from a rothschild stooge.
honestly modern bodybuilders look like over-pumped blob of muscles- the aesthetics of any body are very important.
One thing is certain, the Golden Era was overall healthier than the Mass Monsters. Yates took better care of himself than most. He respected his body and once he retired he didn’t let his ego get in the way and he downsized. I respect both men personally (outside of their bodybuilding careers).
Anyone says Arnold was not a juicer is a liar.
Dorian the king of juice. Can't blame them.
I thought the protein shakes they promoting made them like that.🤡🤡
@@obobobobobi They do, it's called über mass
"Screw your freedoms" - never forgive, never forget!!
When Arnold said 'screw your freedom' he was having a go at the arrogant people who didnt give a hoot about infecting others with a deadly virus
Their was 20 yrs between them. Both did gear but it got more complex with the designer drugs. After a while it was too much!
Realy stupid comment
This video sucks. None of the clips are about the topic but random comments about liking oiled up men. It repeats itself over and over (70s vs 90s mentioned 3 times) and does not show that Dorian “hates”
Arnold.
Arnolds era was depicting Greek Gods and super heroes. The 90s contenders with Yates pumped out monsters that missed symmetry. An arnold poster is motivational, while the Yates look, is appreciated, but not inspiring.
Watching Dorian and Arnolds training, reps, Arnold was and still training accurately and millions of people motivated, but Dorians training was nearly wrong. Dorians, Ronnie stomach and Arnolds says everything
How was Dorians training nearly wrong?
@@gipsybulldog3286 compared to goldenage bodybuilders since 90's their reps and styles of workouts are not full and exact. Most trainers says this. For example bent over row..because of their stomach, heavy weight I havent seen their workout in bars, hangings. Also watch Arnolds trainings.
Dorian had a way better training method.
Arnold had wide waist
@@rahimibadov2940 Hahaha!
Dorian frank zane did beat arnold and made him go home and cry 😅.. that lost taught arnold that in america size 8s not everything😊
He cried about it for years.
What does this have to do.wirh Dorian "hating" Arnold? What a croc of sheit!
If i ever need something to help me sleep i'll listen to the commentary on this video..what a load of boring crap
Dorian hates no one..
Arnold highlighted bodybuilding
Dorian changed it .
If arnold could achieve bigger muscles like dorian had , he would do it.
Not with the types of steriods they had back in the 70's.
Screw arnold’s freedom
arnold the NWO shill
If it wasn't for Joe Weider racism against black bodybuilders Robbie Robinson who got banned from the IFBB for speaking the truth would be the king of bodybuilding over Arnold
Lol ok
Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman?
Of course, Mr. Victim....
@@shaundouglas2057Phil heath, flex wheele. The list goes on
Nobody came close to the classic Arnold Schwarzenegger Mr universe physique. There's a reason why they put them in movies because he was so incredibly amazing looking. They doped him up on roids but it seemed like he was natty because of his physique was so balanced and his height helped in that. I'm not impressed with most of the new bodybuilders they all look like super doped out skinned bears. Tren bologna sandwiches all day long. Nothing special anymore.
And dorian should never have wone sgainst the professor the last time!! Never
I agree, Nasser won that Olympia contest(1997).
@@Mirriam02
Not according to professionals.
He won more poses
arnold spilled the beans in order to disqualify Tom Platz because of an injury ...... an ambitious and unloyal partner.
Arnold tried every dirty trick in the book to get an edge & beat his competition.
.As a Leo that's understandable.
Look at Dorian now. Post steroid look like a dude that never worked out. Arnold still retain the looks of an ex bodybuilder
Yates had a slight bubble gut and was stocky looking like a steroid fed bull. Arnold had a classic, aesthetic form like ferrigno and Zane. Anyone of them could have won depending on the criteria of no doubt paid judges.
Arnold age 19, no steriods genetically gifted amazing physique. Arnold on stage 10/10 pleasing to the eye in every way. Dorian gigantic mass steriod overloaded, but with amazing symmetry for size. 😅
Arnold was on steroids too lol
They were legal back then.
Arnie was doing them in Europe long before he turned 19!
Arnie started peds at 15! He was always on them.
Arnold had started taking steroids at 15. Get ur facts right
Arnold did steroids also
Roids sculpted his muscles not the gods
Yates followed Mentzer's and Arthur jones' heavyduty,high intensity low volume,Arnold followed high volume.It was a different bodybuilding protocol that divided them.
Not at all. The training methods have very little impact. They all work equally as hard. Some guys are just better responders to low volume; that's mostly down to genetics. They all are taking sets close to or to complete mechanical failure. High intensity in this context only refers to the load and rep numbers. Which we now know has very little impact when it comes to hypertrophy.
Take the PEDs away and they are both similarly built, probably.
Arnold vs Dorian, no comparison. Arnold transcended bodybuilding into being a movie star and Politics with a personality and drive no one has matched to this day.
Arnold is a serial misogynist and has a history of sexually harassing women. Dozens of women have come forward to testify against this disturbed individual. Let's not forget Arnold spent taxpayers money to try to erase the sex scandals while running for governor. Arnold was tapped for the Gubermatorial run at the occult entrance at the Bohemian Grove and rubbed elbows with the Illuminati at the Rothschild family home. This is one, sick, twisted, narcissistic, lying, con man running around. Let's not forget that he was drug infested, homosexual prostitute back in the day
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Dorian Yates shouldn't only won 6 Mr Olympia's
He started getting plagued with injuries and saw really good ppl coming up so he gave it up. Good choice
Arnold = Politics. Dorian = Domination.
If you pay attention arnold was always a Douch
Arnold made history. That's a fact, Yates won't be remembered for too much longer....Arnold made the golden era, whether we like it or not....despite the fact that anabolic steroids were used...Yates came around at the start of the mutant era...
arnold was a tiny mickey mouse compared to Dorian
It's always Arnold or Dorian, the athletic or mass standard.
I have respect for both of them, as bodybuilder and person.
Arnold impressed me by his mass but after Dorian he was lean to me.
I was about 20 years old in the early 80's and impressed by Arnold but at that age you are easier to impress than at age 60 😊
They set new standards both so for me it's not Arnold or Dorian but Arnold and Dorian.
Yes and it's clear much hate by Heavy Duty fans against Arnold is because of the 1980 Olympia.
The Jones, Mentzer and Yates way of training has more logic to me than the ' more is better ' way from Arnold but Arnold set a new standard too in despite of too much volume.
Both have their own category now
Arnie's era looked like superheroes, Dorian's (and to this day) looked like weirdly bloated He-man figures.
It's a shame Levrone, Ray and Wheeler had to compete in Dorian's era as I think they'd of done well in the aesthetic 70s.
Arnold and Weider sabo taged so many others careers o ,at least lessened them..OLIVA,MENTZER,ZANE,PLATZ,NUBRET all sabotaged
I started with Arnold but transitioned to Lee Haney. That's who kept me there
No one should waste their energy and time on hatred. If that's what it means.
i would take arnold he know what it take to look good and not looking fat. its not how big you get its how you look and arnold know that.
Hahaha!
All one needs to know as how many surgeries Arnold had to have and then look at the over all death rate of bodybuilders. They are not very healthy and they look no different,some even worse,then the general older generation. It seams that all their hard work was just for posing and disappeared quite rapidly with age😊
Dorian Yates was on every drug possible. Never liked him. And after he stopped lifting and or taking gear he looked terrible. Just look at him after he stopped competing. Arnold always looked great.
To these "experts" (whom probably dont bench over 250 lb, arms less than 17" no legs etc.) whom want to rave about the "aesthetics" you are ALL politely reminded that the sport is BODY BUILDING!! Look at Markus Ruhl and or Paul Dillet they have at least 15 kg on Arnold and bodyfat below 7%. Not to mention that for the mid 70's Arnold WAS considered a mass monster.
It IS about size at this level of competition and Yates was proof of that... not to mention his definition, condition, proportions and symmetry were EASILY as good as Arnold. Just a BIGGER version.
C'mom... Arnold had much more than all this cow bellies has today... [exclusively myself winning 1985 Natural Mr. America, and now at 72 posing you out also... TRX in the park...only] :D
94 German Gran Prix is my favorite version of DY. The show itself was a great showcase with amazing lighting
Dorian was a silent professional. Arnold was a diva
I dont know but i think some body builders hate arnold cus they are not half as good as him!!
Does anyone know the name of this music please?
Mike Mentzer’s greatest creation.
Just like Arnold Yates had some controversial wins as well
I respect Yates. Enough said.
They should be friends, since both stole at least one Olympia.
Why not repeat the same information numerous times just to get longer views! This could have been 8 minutes.
there is no hate
The alleged "disagreements" aside, bottom line: after doing heavy steroids and numerous other drugs for the duration of their career, on retirement they ended up physical wrecks. Ronnie Coleman is paralyzed due to multiple abuses he has made on his body.
Ronnie got messed up because of a botched spinal surgery.
@@darrell9294 He had multiple surgeries throughout his body attempting to correct the damage he inflicted on himself by using super-heavy weights. This being only part of his health issues, the surgeries were unsuccessful ending him in a wheel-chair. I doubt if he still does steroids but he has to take a bucketful of other pills and pain-killers to see the day through. He claims it was worth it.
whats crazy is at his peak i dont thin hed even get a pro card now adays
Dorian and dwarf Hadi are the 2 worst mr. O’s in history
In your opinion, which isn't much
Mike Metzer should’ve gotten the win from Scharzenegger
The real conflict between Arnold and Dorian was Dorian was a Disciple of Mike Mentzer, Arnold’s greatest rival.
Mike was not Arnold's greatest rival they weren't even rivals the only competed against each other one time. Sergio was Arnold's rival.
@@PaulPupp And Joe Weider made sure that Sergio would be taken out of the picture.
How could anyone hate arnold
my thoughts exactly.
Everyone around him around that time.
Many reasons
@@NikosNikos-dr7wv which is..
@@kurtisbanks7655
"F.... your freedoms "
Yates was a better body builder.
Arnold was the best Bodybuilder ever . He looks massiv and beautivul . Today they look terrible .
No legs
@@kojoefante no legs and no abs which he always cover with vacum pose
Yeah... Dorian didn't bring intensity and mass to IFBB or Olympia. He was so hopped up on steroids that no one else had a chance and had to basically follow suit in order to be competitive. I hate the way that period of bodybuilders looked. Un-natural, no proportions, no physique. It was about who was the most freakishly huge and had 0% bodyfat... There's plenty of interviews where Dorian talks about how what he did, with taking steroids, insulin, etc probably wasn't the best idea and contributed to his health issues today... I hate that this documentary doesn't even touch on that and makes Dorian to be some sort of awesome trendsetter... shame on this channel.
How many times can you say the same thing over and over again?
Arnold is pure swamp team.
Arnold ran the Weider organization
He was arrogant,self centred , obsessive and narcissistic….come to think of it he still is …..
Zane.....greatest of all time
Arnold who put body building on map.
Both are good but i will go for Arnold , striation and mass where needed in particular body parts
Everybody cant be lying.
Dorian is a different kind of beast. Wether or not people think its "good looking", Dorian took bodybuilding to another level. Arnold was mostly genetics.
Dorian changed into barrel guts till nowadays.
ARNOLD IS THE BEST....
FUCK THE ALL REST. !!!!!!
He is trash who said Fuck your Freedom during Covid. I'd piss on him! Loser!!
Arnold sucks!
@@lateralus2199🤦
At the end of the day he doesn’t come close to Arnold
How so?