THE SECRET BANKAI - Can Ikkaku EVER Use it Properly Again? | Bleach Discussion
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Ikkaku's Bankai feels like something of a myth. Despite numerous chances to see it throughout the story, we only ever witnessed it once. Thanks to that restraint, there's something really intriguing about it. But a more pressing question is - after the revelations in TYBW, can Ikkaku ever actually use it again? Let's take a look!
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What did you think of Ikkaku's seldom seen Bankai? Is there any chance he can restore it to its former power? Let me know!
Perhaps if he went on a major mental journey to fully connect with Hozukimaru
If he gets it reforged by the god of the sword
@@1234andrewjacksmith agree
I don't think Ikkaku really cares about it, and neither Kubo
I just rewatched the role of mayuri in the tybw arc and it got me thinking: have you ever done the role of technology in bleach video?
Really wished that his bankai was also properly repaired/reawakened like Ichigo and Renji. Can you imagine what his improved bankai would look like, it would be amazing.
Kratos's blade of Chaos 🤣🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@arunpunna5899 you laugh now, but that ironically sounds amazing and actually fits well with ikkaku's style of fighting.
That would be amazing. Maybe Ikkaku will have that chance in the hell arc.
I'm glad he didn't. It gives the series a little bit more weight that it needs. Ichigo "losing" his abilities/ bankai multiple times is enough already.
@@animanco6833 it's not like I made fun him . The reason why I laughed is because it's not gonna happen . I know it completely suits him but... Maybe kubo can do much better than that or just give blade of chaos type upgrade .
He can still use it. It's just much weaker than it originally was. He seemed like a perfect candidate to go to the royal palace and get his zanpakuto reforged but that never happened
I've always thought this too. I feel like he's in a similar situation as toshiro.
@@nonhumanperson9362 toshiro bankai wasnt destroyed it was stolen but renji bankai was destroyed and sword god reforged his zanpakto
This was the first thing I thought that would happened after finding out Bankai's can be remade. The gotei 13 got wiped out of most of their bankai's but Ikkaku was left on the bench and stayed there... So was Chad, able to touch captain level power would have been nice to see a Mashup of Hollowfication+Fullbring... So was Yumichika whose power by the way though shikai sounds perfectly fit to counter quincy. I was hoping even Ishida would receive a power up and participate in the war, but he gets like 3 frames of his character along with 3 frames of power explanation against ywach and I thought that was kinda bs.
Not enough fangirls
@@martakavaliauskaite4566 the similarity was the maturity of his bankai and having to "wake up" his zanpakuto
In my mind, Ikakku's bankai is delicate due to his lack of confidence/will to use it as much. He puts serving under Kenpachi over everything else, and would not do anything to sabotage himself out of the 11th division (revealing that he has achieved bankai and promoted to captain). Since a shinigamis zanpakuto is an extension of his spirit, it's no wonder that Ikkakus conflict of using his bankai or not, weakens it in a way. That's just my own theory of course, Kubo proved that he can write amazing stories or shitty ones throughout Bleach, so Ikkaku's bankai may be just something he didn't know how to utilize in the later arcs
I thought this as well. It seems that when someone obtains Bankai but lacks confidence in themselves, or the spirit lacks confidence in their master, only a small fraction of the true power is released and manifested as a Bankai meaning, Ikkaku probably lost a false Bankai, rather than his true one. If he were to gain some level of confidence in himself, stop hero worshipping Kenpachi and started down his own path of power recognition, I'm certain his spirit would recognize his growth as a person and fully manifest as a completed Bankai that doesn't need to be "Woken up", to use its power.
I might just consider this theory canon till further notice
Those inner spirits really test ones mettle. Even Zaraki's was messing with him the whole time. Won't say anything else to spoil since the anime is back but....if you know, you know.
I don't get why if you have a bankai you somehow automatically have to be considered for a captain seat. Renji has one and has never really wanted to be one. He just wants to surpass byakuya. Ikkaku could just keep his bankai and still serve under Kenpachi
I always thought that he strained it too much before fully awakening it and filling the crest up before attacking as hard as he did. In my mind, had he fully awakened it before attacking like he did, it may not have broken
Honestly, I assumed Ikkaku's bankai is a dud like Renji's was. I've always had a bit of headcanon that his Zanpakto never truly provided him with his real bankai due to his fixation of being below Kenpachi. I always wanted to see an arc where maybe he has to really step up and has to acknowledge that he needs to strive to surpass Kenpachi to be relevant, not serve faithfully under him. It might look something like him being beaten to a pulp, maybe apologizing to Hozukimaru for not living up to its expectations. Then having it note how pathetic Ikkaku is for being proud of being someone else's second fiddle, maybe even pointing out how Kenpachi has gotten over his roadblocks before Ikkaku did. After that Ikkaku would hopefully understand why his Bankai was so fragile, and the two forge a new pact to be the strongest, allowing him to activate his full power.
It would parallel Yumichika's issue as well, as someone who's opted to hold themselves back for the sake of others. Both kind of blindly spent centuries idolizing and following a man who was also nerfed by himself.
That would be epic. It’s something that I would want both of them to achieve.
I could see the Zanpakto literally giving Ikkaku ONLY its strength to mimic Kenpachi when Ikkaku obviously has more to him than that.
I need this to be a one-shot chapter now.
Welp, I should have kept reading, I posted a similar one haha. Yours is more thought out though.
Well that takes care of what I was gonna comment. Aside from the obvious Ikkaku and Yumichika are the backbone of the 11th Division which is all about being the strongest, but have very interesting flaws
One of the best bankai reveals we got because of how unexpected it was.
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@@jamesmayle3787 FR
I kinda like how delicate this Bankai is, I think it speaks to Ikkaku's potential and how he squander it. If he fought in a more evasive, careful way it'd be a terror, raw power with little downside. But instead he'd rather just mimic Zaraki even if it destroys him.
Shame that we didn't see more of the bankai but it does show how much he respects Zaraki. It's pretty much the same loyalty that Sasakibe had for Yamamoto.
Honestly that's an interesting parallel. Old Pringles man won Yama's respect by showing the strength of his bankai. But angry Caillou fears that he won't be able to serve with Kenny for being strong.
@@joulejolt and kenny had the opposite arc of becoming the strongest he could be, even if it meant usurping the one he looked up to.
@@pumkin610 Yep, which makes me think that Ikkaku's arc needs to progress along the same lines. His bankai being brittle not because it is, but because his will is brittle. His desire for power was stunted, so of course that power would be likewise. I could see his "patched up" bankai breaking totally and there being the real one inside the shell.
@@LupineShadowOmega like ichigo's bankai
@@pumkin610 Ichigo's was more about that being the sheath, or at least so far as we know. But then Ichigo is also the most outlier of outliers in the series.
I hope that, when the War ended, the Zero Squad's bonds with the Gotei 13 improved, even if a little bit, to allow Oh-Etsu to offer Ikkaku the chance to repair his Zanpakuto. Since he knows every Asauchi, you could make him pull on Ikkaku's sense of loyalty by telling him something among the lines of "Not even a beast like Zaraki would want a self-mutilated hound like you by his side, yo. And I know Hozokimaru isn't the type to take joy from a fight he fought neutered". Maybe that way, in the Hell arc, Ikkaku can give us a new all-out battle.
I love that quote
Kirinji seems more the type to directly rip into him like that but I'm sure there would be some additional admonishment from Oh-Etsu. This is contingent on Hyosube not being a massive bastard though.
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I guess it's time for a new Squad 0 member, since broken Bankais still can't be restored.
After all, Renji didn't have his real Bankai yet so he didn't loose it, and basically, same goes for Ichigo.
Ichigos case is even more special, since it was a Quincy suppressed Hollow Zanpaktou, if I understand this correctly.
Etsu probably considers Ikkaku as a Punk Rock deliquent while he is into Funk.
Ikkaku's introduction was fantastic. He used the sheath which was already fairly unique but he also performed first-aid/medicine on himself. Something I wish was later reiterated upon by Kubo in the story. God Soul Society showed so much promise for the series.
If your bankai is damaged or destroyed, you should just be able to get a new asauchi. Then over time your “soul/shinigami powers” transfer into/imprint onto the new asauchi just like before, and your bankai is now fixed. I never understood how a bankai is permanently damaged or destroyed when it’s just a physical manifestation of your soul. It should just heal and regenerate back to normal once you reseal your zanpakuto.
It seems to be because a shikai just gives your soul a conduit for your power. A bankai is a physical manifestation of your soul. So if it is destroyed, so is a part of your soul. So even with a new sword your soul is still damaged.
@@majinjason **Laughs in Ichigo Kurosaki**
I thought it was more of a confidence thing. Like damn this guy is so much stronger then me I’m pathetic and then the sword breaks cuz his will isn’t there anymore. And most of the time that confidence stays gone.
The way he says bankai is forever memorable
BANKAIYEAAAHH!
I believe they should have reawakened his bankai, but Kubo was busy with other characters, there’s still room for development
Also I believe he’s the best combat lieutenant, so regardless he’s still top tier
Definitely a huge reveal back then, and tells a lot about his training and discipline. Hoping to see more fights with this
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Hope we get a Yumichika analysis sometime. I think his zanpakuto is so cool and I imagine his bankai would be insane if Kubo ever gives him one.
Yess
Yumichika has a bankai
Never mind he just has his shikai I thought his shikai was just the 3 blades lol
Love Yumichika
@@jack_T3579 No, he purposely calls his shikai the wrong name on purpose. When he's fighting around people his Shikai is the 4 bladed fan sword, when he calls its true name, it's only when he's alone and then it becomes the energy draining tendril thing. Squad 11 is purely physical fighters so if their sword release has a magic type ability or anything not directly related to stabbing your opponent they look down upon it, probably kill that member, murder amongst the divisions isn't uncommon considering Mayuri blows up his subordinates.
his abilities are pretty broken on its own. His ability was the only one out of all the shinigami that scared Azashiro Kenpachi enough to steal his sword
I HATE how Kubo decided to develop Ikkaku as someone with great potential but he always loses to weak goons and needs to activate the bankai he hates to use to win all his battles.
You hate nothing
Yes, I remember this in Fullbringer. All the pages. Many pages. We all saw them
I think a light novel should be written for ikkaku and yumichika. Maybe they're in rukon district and get trapped and unable to contact SS and have to handle it alone. Or maybe a story where he prays to the sword god Oetsu Nimaiya everyday, and training until he appears before him and reforges his sword in some epic moment.
I know it's not realistic for everyone to have a fully up to par zanpaktou but I just hate how handicapped forever he will be now. It is however realistic within the story, which makes it just so much more tragic in a way.
Man an Ikakku and Yumichika light novel would be dope
If only im a milionair i would pay for that hahaha
The reveal in the anime is so iconic. BANKAIIIII!!! RYUMONNN HYOUZUKIMARU
I love that Ikaku did become a 'captain' of sorts. He became the master of Renji and Rukia's daughter. Which I think has a lot to do with the trust that Renji has in him.
I've wanted you to do a video on this and Yumichka for so long. Thank you. I'm so excited.
Ikkaku: "I want to keep my bankai a secret"
Meanwhile Byakuya: "Is that a spider on the wall? Bankai, Senbonzakura Kageyoshi!"
Honestly a more comedic reason for Hozukimaru needing to be woken up while in Bankai could be that its rare that he gets to go all out , he may feel Ikkaku’s path in life is too boring to really care for.
I feel like there could’ve been an interesting arc for Ikkaku about not squandering his potential; it’d be interesting if Kenpachi found out about why he hides his Bankai, and gives him an earful because he’s pissed that he could’ve had another worthy opponent to fight. Leading Ikkaku to stop hindering himself by staying within his shadow and becoming the best he can be. Which could in turn also be set up for Ikkaku learning his Bankai’s true name and getting a proper amp.
Hopefully we get something cool like this in the future.
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@@jamesmayle3787 why would i believe in a god that is supposedly everlasting love yet gives the worst possible punishments to sinners, like tf?, i thought you wanted me to be good but why do i have to spend eternity in hell bc i nutted outside?
Yes. Would love to hear Kenny yelling or even manifesting little yachiru for a moment to berate Ikkaku either for choosing to be weak or yachiru yells at him for being a dick to his zanpakuto.
I always thought Ikkaku could have his zanpakuto reforged by Oetsu. He did it for Ichigo. I'm sure he could do it with Ikkaku as well.
I became a real fan of Ikkaku Madarame. Mainly due to the fact that he trained Renji and that he surpassed him. They are both crazy for battle in their own way which is nice.
I think his bankai was incomplete like Renji's was. It was mentioned how fragile Renji's bankai was, but Renji was lucky that his was able to put itself back together. Ikkaku got shafted (pun intended) and never got the chance to receive a proper power up.
You know there's a very mind shaking revelation Because of this. Ikkaku and Yumichik Basically let Ichigo and Ganju win, It's very amazing how the captain and seat members of the most battle prone squad have more restraint than any other squad. Just because they want to fight longer battles or don't want to draw attention that will get them removed from their squad.
I hope he uses it again in the TYBW against Mask. We know he loses ultimately, even with the help of Yumichika and Hisagi, but we also know Mask had to get amped by the Cheer to turn the fight around and win.
A short but brutal showdown with the three working together against the lone Sternritter would be awsome. I mean, imagine Yumichika and Hisagi using their shikai to restrain Mask while Ikkaku goes in with Bankai.
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Why would mask need James to cheer him up vs lieutenants when his as strong as captains post time skip bare minimum
@@undary0u well, now that the episode is out, you have your answer. Also, while a Captain class could defeat a single Vice-Captain class with minimal difficulty (highlighted in Byakuya vs Renji) fighting 3 simultaneously is another matter.
Honestly, the more I look into Kubo's works, the more impressive it becomes. The guy really knows what he's doing and it shows. Whether everything was planned out so completely from the start is obviously up in the air. However, the fact that the few exceptions we see are also actual exceptions really says something.
Renji's bankai had progressively gotten smaller compared to his initial unveiling against Byakuya. Obviously Ikkaku's is never seen again after the first fight. Mayuri has shown that he tweaks and "modifies" things. It's why he looks different every fight and has different abilities every fight, so him doing the same to his bankai is 100% believable. Even Komomura's bankai being the only one to actually repair itself is a fair comparison since it always came with a super steep cost that didn't seem to justify the power he got.
Like, can we really argue that Kubo is trying to force square blocks in round holes if every exception makes perfect sense lore-wise?
The reveal of his bankai is one of my favourite panels in the entire series when his eyes get whited out and yeah it totally feels like a videogame weapon because it's reminiscent of the Unlabored Flawlessness from Ninja Gaiden Black
I believe Ikkaku was one of the few, if not the only person who was shafted so badly with the silly "broken Bankai can't be repaired" plot.
Agreed
I hope he hasn't fully realized his bankai similar to renji and gets an upgrade fitting of it in the hell arc.
I remember seeing the scene in Op 14 when Ikkaku summoned the crimson dragon to attack Reigei Shunsui, thinking that it would’ve been cool to see if he gained a new ability training his Bankai. Too bad Kubo didn’t write Ikkaku to go to Oetsu to reforge hozukimaru.
Yeah it was a missed opportunity. Ikkaku deserves at least one or two good battles where he won. I would have liked to see Ikkaku post royal guard training take out one of the sternritter
A really missed opportunity was Jerome, Berenice and Loyd not Fighting Ikkaku, Yumichika and Yachiru. Imagine Loyd using Ikkaku Bankai against him while Berenice makes Yumichika questions himself.
@@k2basior that would have been so cool
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I like to think that, if Ikkaku's Bankai doesn't already have some sort of secondary ability, you could easily give it to the secondary ability like the sword Zabuza had in Naruto. It doesn't really do much except cut, except it just restores itself through absorbing iron from creatures it cuts via blood. Would work perfect for Ikkaku since it literally does nothing for him but keeps his weapons from being permanently broken beyond repair as long as he's fighting, and you can even draw parallels to him fighting as long as his weapons let him.
I love how in Bleach Abridged Byakuya told Renji everyone knew Ikakku had Bankai lol
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@@jamesmayle3787 🙏🏾
I like Ikkaku very much, he's such a great character. And his bankai is so cool, pure brute force - exactly like his personality. The fact that he keeps it secret makes so much sense, matches his personality. Great theme for an analysis 😊👍
Could you also do a video about Yumichika's Fujikujaku / Ruriirokujaku? I also think they have an interesting zanpakuto x personality relationship!
Do you think we’ll see ikkaku bankai again😩?
He's been my fav ever since I 1st saw his bankai
I love that swirling effect behind him when he activates Bankai. Almost foreshadows part of its mechanics
If I could change one thing about ikkaku in the tybw I would have him not get immediately knocked out after Mask De Masculine attacks. I think an alternate means to enhance his character is to have him witness, shuhei, rose and kensei lose. Not being able to move due to injuries ties back to his original desire of wanting to die in battle and to not be left to lose on the floor. I would also love it if potentially after kensei and rose lose if ikkaku due to that motivation attempted to get up and perform his weaker bankai (everyone around him being unconscious) only to still get smacked around. Having him during his pummeling recall his prior strength against Edrad and how his desire for a fight not only endangered his friends (tying back to fake karakura with iba) but also made him weaker (acting as a parallel to kenpachi's desire making him subconsciously weaker) I feel would be a great culmination of his character arc. The luckiest man suffers an unlucky strike due to his own actions of gambling his life, only to luckily then be saved by Renji, the man who was trained by ikkaku. This would tie up their narrative resolves to surpass their intended goals (being their respective captains) and culminate in a reunion that I think wouldve made renji's return even more awesome
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I think this shows 2 things, one that he has yet to master bankai and what happens if you use it without mastery, and two the type of person he is, he is willing to throw everything away in a fight, even things that may make him stronger in time, like imagine if his bankai was mastered and would be as hard as he is defensively, like he could just tank massive attacks to charge up the offense.
Ikkaku’s bankai reveal was by far my favourite of the series, it was so unexpected and I think it’s a pretty cool looking design despite how frail it is. Looking forward to seeing Renji’s animated and also Komamura’s 🔥
The Bankai has always actually been my favorite. I was very upset to find out it may not be usable after the first fight 😢
I feel like the whole "broken bankais stay broken" is a lie or misinformation, once we learn that the zanpakuto and soul realer are one.
Maybe what gets broken is the soul reaper's confidence in their "full power," leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy.
To that extent, i think that Bankai never stop changing, it just usually takes longer than Ichigo's or Mayuri's.
I like how after we learn that bankai can't be fixed, that it all adds up to why we never saw it again.
As much as I would love ikaku to get it reforged. I actually think it's fine he doesn't, the thousand year blood war had a severe lack of consequences and I will forever say that's its greatest weakness as a story arc. Noone really died on 'the good side' , byakuya originally got pasted and shouldve died we even saw his zanpakuto fall apart which except for tousens friend is a certain sign they died. Ikakus bankai being permanently broken gave weight to the arrancar arc.
Probably the favourite bankai design. I think its over the top nature is a perfect representation of why I love bleach. I love the over the top designs that feel really unique
I find it awesome how in the anime ikkaku actually trained renji to reach vice captain status, and even declined to be one himself to stay with yumichika and kenpachi
Another mistake in the manga is that when Byakuya first used his Bankai to shatter Renji's, and it is said that "the pieces that he has broken from prior battles are still broken", you can see that Bykakuya shattered the entire Bankai including the snake skull, so yeah I think Kubo only came up with the idea that a broken Bankai is permanent during the final arc.
I'm not really sure how I feel about it cos on one hand, it justifies Ichigo and co. visiting the royal palace to get power ups but then at the same time, Ikkaku's fight with Edorad and how his Bankai got broken was soo cool and now every Bankai can't be broken without permanent repercussions which means less damage and less cool visuals from now on.
Also, Kensei's Bankai was also broken by Mask when he got knee slam KOd.
Tons of bankai have been broken and they always restore, so that was a stupid.
@@justinhachey8555 like which ones?
Technically Tsukishima can also repair Ikkaku's bankai by cutting Ikkaku and changing the past to one where the bankai is never destroyed. Yeah, it's not a likely to happen scenario but it is possible.
If Orihime is involved also. And that's big braining it on 💯
Ikkakus bankai reveal was fucking awesome and one of the best things we didn't see it again
im also impressed that he defeated edrad without needing his spiritual pressure seal released like the other members in their fights
He’s a seated officer I don’t think he had a seal
@@ChromaticEagle good catch! Didn't think of that. He should be lieutenant level
Considering he had no seal, I would argue that the fight was a more impressive feat for Edrad. Deffo made him seem up there power wise against other non Espada.
What I love so much with ikaku is his flare as a fighter even under kenpachi he’s a very tactical fighter and he’s fighting style is so unique he’s just fight like captain lvl fighter and he’s just sick to watch
Anyone: **breathes the wrong way**
Hitsugaya: *BANKAI*
My headcanon was that this wasn't the first battle for this bankai. I am assuming it was used, potentially damaged, before resulting in a weaker bankai. We also have to remember that Ikkaku isn't captain strength either. Zabimaru suffered lots of damage in its false appearance while its user was also NOT captain level. Ichigo, by comparison, was always at an Espada level. Even if the old man was holding him back his bankai's durability reflects his actual strength.
One of my favorite bankai and Bankai reveal. This is what has me believe this generation of gotei 13 is a lot more capable then previous. These vet Lt. are powerful.
Ikkaku is more like a hardworking, self-sufficient type of person. He will find his own way of redeeming his new or true bankai without help from anyone but himself, training and fighting at its hardest.
His blade breaking was probably a reflection of his willful stagnancy. Hozukimaru’s power is clearly reflective of it masters will to fight so his subconscious desire to stop himself from reaching his full potential, blunted the blade’s strength, and probably durability.
True and i did laugh about how you mention Hitsugaya using his bankai in every fight
buuut he -is labled a prodigy several times, so him using bankai like its no big deal makes some sense
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I remember back in the day I was helping out with typesetting with one of the manga groups, and I typeset this chapter with Ikkaku - who was one of my favorite characters - revealing his secret bankai. Was very hype.
So many main characters in bleach...this is honestly anime is my favorite of all time and we're getting more 😌
Iirc one of the Klub Outside questions (#353) was about the healing salve Ikkaku used on himself & Ichigo after their initial fight. Kubo's response suggested that the salve was part of Houzukimaru's abilities. Maybe an improved version of his Bankai might be able to restore itself, or treat the wounds as an extra-long dragon crest?
The bar filling from damage also raises the possibility of a connection to Hisagomaru, which absorbs damage to reach its terrifyingly powerful Shikai
"Hallowed" is one of my fav OST songs. That song and Ikkaku's bankai reveal are forever intertwined in my mind.
I like the idea that organic/living bankia can recover/change over time to overcome their "destruction" or any other damage. Would be cool to discover a way to reforge a broken inorganic bankai through a meditation that fuses your bankai's spirit to the weapon, or something like that. Impart the spirit's life upon the weapon to mend it, but at the cost of weakening your spirit and causing it's max power to be limited until the spirit could recover fully
it's not unthinkable that his bankai is somehow renewed, but he's keeping it a secret again in true ikkaku fashion
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Maybe since it spends so much time sleeping... we could make the leap that Ikkaku's Bankai recovers while slumbering? Issa stretch I know.
Also I kind of feel like modularity is part of Ashisogi Jizo's power. It's like a crash test dummy.
at this point all characters that got their bankai damaged had a different excuse for that rule to not apply to them, so i wouldn't be surprised if ikkaku fixed his by intense training or something like that
13:55 personally I ignore the idea of a damaged Banki been unrepairable as nonsense, I’m not above telling the creator of a work their wrong especially if the thing they are saying dosnt make any sense, a bank is the physical representation of persons soul it’s something that’s already inside them.
Also some Banki are destroyed by their very nature, Byakuya destroys his as part of it summoning and Ichigo has his outfit (that is part of his banki) torn to ribbons in every arc even though the pants never get ripped off which is odd 😅, kenpachi had his arm rip in half (I’m classing him to be part of the banki as he increased in size when it was activated) so personally I don’t think a banki can be permanently damaged, only for a short while as soon as the host has had time to heal up their Banki will soon be restored.
I have always assume that wanst the fist that broke the blade , but the atacks of the bankai are so strong that the bankai herself cant handle.
I know it is not in the cannon manga, but I was happy to see his bankai a second time in the zanpaktu rebellion arc of the anime at least.
The whole idea of the "broken bankai can never be fixed" really doesn't make sense to me. Zanpaktos ARE their wielder. "I am the bone of my sword"...wait, wrong series..."the sword is me" right? They are literally part of one and the same soul. The soul resides within the body and within the blade. The bodies can heal or be healed, even have entire parts replaced, but does that mean their soul is any different? If we can replace body parts like Ikkaku's arm and even have zombies running around now. It makes even LESS sense with Mayuri being able to essentially perform surgery on his zanpakto. And isn't EVERY shinigami's soul heavily linked to their zankpato? Isn't that EXACTLY how they obtain bankai in the first place!? So how does Komamura make sense but no one else can do the same?
was just wondering this the other day, great vid
Theres some inconsistencies with that "destroyed bankais" rule especially given the "anatomy" of some bankai, Renjis bankai was seemingly destroyed against byakuya and even Mayuris bankai was damaged and i guess killed at one point so perhaps theres a heart or core of the bankai and that could be like the actual sword in ichigos case, even though his bankai is the entire outfit, so in ikkakus case the core could be the large middle blade and that being broken would mean the bankai was destroyed
Lets gooooo, been wanting an Ikkaku Bankai video for some time
I love his design and his bankai, he's definitely one of the characters I'm sad does not have a strong track record of wins (kind of like kensei, Matsumoto, etc.) One reason I play the mobile game Bleach Brave Souls still is because you can collect some of the characters who did not canonically win a lot but that you might like a lot, and kick ass with them. I think there was a warriors-like hack and slash bleach game for Wii back in the day and several fighting games, hope the new arc being animated means we'll get some more bleach games down the pipeline and be able to play as these underpowered in the manga characters
I know there's aspects of it we didn't know at the time but i remember espada 8 blew up renjis bankai and everything was honkey dorey
My theory about Ikkaku's Ban-Kai is its simular to Renji's Ban-Kai in that Hōzukimaru didn't tell Ikkaku its true name because he's (at the time) unworthy / not ready for it. Given Ikkaku's personality my guess is he forced Hōzukimaru to fight him to unlock Ban-Kai for fun (which goes with his personality of loving battle) because if he never wanted to leave Squad 11 why learn Ban-Kai in the first place.
Why would Hōzukimaru not reveal its true name to Ikkaku? Because they likely don't have a good relationship (or at least a friendly one) since Hōzukimaru is "asleep" when he uses Ban-Kai its safe to assume it doesn't like being forcefully awaken by Ikkaku. This could explain why his Ban-Kai is so frail because their bond isn't that great. Let's look at Komamura his Ban-Kai heals with him because of their deep bond so its safe to assume the oppersite is true, a weak bond will make the blade brittle (this also mirrors his captain Kenpachi sword which is chipped & damage a visual sign of his poor relationship with his Zanpaktou).
If this theory is true that would make Hōzukimaru very similar to Yumichika's Ruri'iro Kujaku in that both are refusing to give their full power to their partner because they're hiding them from the rest of the world. Maybe once Ikkaku stops being so rigid & accept the fact he can use his Ban-Kai & just refuse any captains position (like Sasakibe did) both he & his Zanpoktou will be stronger for it.
If we get more Hell Chapters in the future I'd love to see Ikkaku break out of this & show that he has matured a bit more that he's willing to use his (new) Ban-Kai in public, but stick to his desire to remain in Squad 11 regardless of what others will say (Same with Yumichika if he would overcome his fear of being kicked out of Squad 11 because of his Zanpoktou he'd be among the strongest non captains & maybe even get a Ban-Kai).
Really awesome how Ikkaku's all about the fervor of battle like Kenpachi, and honestly this bankai would really fit his captain a lot more.
I think Ikkaku's bankai doesn't boosting his speed, strength or whatever it is but instead his raw power to slice enemy. Maybe it's due to him idolised and respect kenpachi so much which personified in his bankai. As we all know, kenpachi like to slice everything . Thus , i can see there's a relation to that characteristic as well as Ikkaku's. Also to note, when his bankai's dragon crest in full state, not just slicing power , it also give him a secondary boost which is explosive power . I can say his bankai almost similar like Ichigo which min-maxing at best.
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Ikakku's bankai is cool but we have seen it in the anime twice. The zanpakuto arc even though it is filler shows us how the bankai should be used as his zanpakuto spirit uses the bankai. In that arc i think that is where we find the reason his bankai broke during that fight. It wasn't complete at all. He trained to have his bankai but if you noticed in that fight he was keeping his bankai a secret not just to stay with the 11 division but he also wanted to use his bankai against his captain in their next battle against each other. You can tell he didn't even try as he was more worried about others finding out he has it. It's strange because we know Renji had his bankai and he never became a captain so in any way it didn't make any sense that he would need to hide his bankai from anyone. Renji who had his bankai and staying under his captain even at the end of the series never becomes a captain but Rukia does. So i don't get why Ikakku just let his bankai get destroyed. He knew he was hurt which could've been another reason it was weaker but it also could be just because his bankai has nothing protecting it in anyway. We don't know what makes the blade more fragile. It has to be because of how much spirit enegry they have left when they use bankai. Which would mean a captain will always have a lot of spirit enegry and be hard for their bankai's to ever get destroyed. We also know Renji is stronger then Ikakku. Yet we also know Renji old bankai was able to spilt apart. So in truth if Ikakku was going for the win in his fight and he knew he had to wake up his bankai to be at full power then why didn't he just do that right we he used it. Him spinning the blades around would most likely repel any flame attack on him. Ikakku just depends on his shikai too much.
It's hard because if they brought back Ryumon Hozukimaru, they'd probably have to adjust its design to show it was repaired. Which I don't necessarily want since the Bankai was always awesome, we just didn't get enough screentime with it.
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Nothing super unique innit. It's basically Hitsugaya's reversed timer. Like snow peddles. And both bankai has to basically 'mature' before reaching full potential.
Although cool bankai. One of more 'normal' martial arts looking and working.
i love the fact that his bankai is similar to his captains in the way that it gives him more power to work with an destructive force but just in a much weaker way than kenpachi's. it shows they have very similar souls. 😊
Well, honestly, I think it's a bad example for Kubo to use. The whole trick of his bankai is it collects "battle energy" or "blood to wake up it's spirit", however you want to put it. If that is the case, so what if the power level has been reduced? Wouldn't it make some semblance of sense that it would just take LONGER, even much longer, but would eventually return to it's full energy state through, you know, BATTLING, the whole point of bond?
IF I were in Kubo's place, and there was a Hell Arc now, with Ikkaku at Vice Captain now. I would like to see him have a series of fights with his bankai with the dragon getting 1/3 filled, then 1/2, the 3/4 or whatever pacing he needs and have him unleash a whole new level of his bankai once it's regained it's full energy once again. Yes, it may be getting to be a trope now that "people don't REALLY know their Zanpaktos, BUT wouldn't it be interesting to see that his zanpakto has been pissed off at him this whole time for hiding him all the time when he knows how much it loves to fight? Once he stops hiding it and let's it enjoy the fights too, then it "REALLY" wakes up, so to speak.
I don’t understand why the gotei 13 wouldn’t want more seated officers to achieve Bankai or at least gain higher levels of fighting prowess. They definitely rely on the captains way too much. It’s honestly no surprise that the soul society got thrashed so hard in the first invasion.
Was it established that they don't want more people to gain Bankai?
All I remember was Byakuya saying it was obscenely hard to get bankai because the most fundamental requirement was to be born with enough spirit energy, so much so that even the 4 Noble Clans could go multiple generations never producing a talent of that level.
@@corruptangel6793 I think the better term is why are they not training their officers. Because as much as we know, they dont. Renji and Ikkaku had to achieve it alone. The captains rely so much on their bankai they shoud teach their soldiers. Honestly even the captains should be trained to get even more powerful. As we see with Yamamoto, Renji and others several Bankai and shikai forms are possible, so why dont they try to achieve it?
I don't think the gotei 13 doesn't want too many their officers having bankai, I think its truely just that difficult to obtain. There are some officers that are old as fuck that don't have bankai like Rangiku. Thats why having a bankai is a requirement for captains.
I think its more of a "Oh you have Ban-Kai? Well your going to be a captain one day." Something that's ingrain in the Gotei 13 mentality that Ban-Kai = Captain much like e.g. Non sports fans think attacking players are the best players & don't understand that defence is just as important. Same with the Gotei they're taught that Ban-Kai = Captain not understanding that someone like Ikkaku isn't a good fit to be a Captain (outside of Squad 11).
@@joelschittenhelm5571 well, firstly, barely anyone is even capable of ever achieving Bankai, so they're not going to waste their time.
Secondly, there are elements of it that no one can teach but the Zanpakuto spirit. Achieving Bankai is as much a journey of self discovery as it is basic training. Yumichika for example straight up acknowledged that Bankai might be impossible for him (at least at that point of his life) simply because he couldn't get along with his Zanpakuto spirit. That's not something a Captain could help with outside of cheat methods like what Yoruichi did with Ichigo. Kensei for example tried to help Hisagi, recognizing that he was on the cusp of Bankai but was missing something. However, he and Mashiro failed and it wasn't until 6 months later, on his own, that Hisagi finally understood himself and his Zanpakuto, gaining Bankai in the process.
Thirdly, we do know they have training dojo for the basic arts. A Captain meanwhile, like all the officers, has a lot of duties and don't have much free time to train the hundreds of people under them. This is highlighted by Squad 10 who show that they not only have specific teachers to oversee the training the division members (probably a seated officer relatively high up or talented in the specific field) but the Captains themselves have mountains of paperwork they have to go through on a daily basis.
It might well just be the best Bankai in the series. Its flawless (until TYBW). Its a perfect execution of his personality and a gorgeous, but tasteful extension of the design. Its everything great about Hihio Zabimaru's design, but with none of the awkwardness. And its mechanical design guarantees that its never around for long, so it would never get dull.
The whole reveal sequence was everything I'd wanted for Kenpachi's Bankai, and didn't get.
I always went with the head canon that he couldn't use it (even if he wanted to) unless Hozukimaru had been broken in its Shikai. It would really fit with his obsession for prolonging combat and taking suicidal risks for the love of violence. And, with a quick edit, could be used to explain to the reader why he didn't use it against Poww; without making him look like a braindead manbaby.
While I acknowledge that it's rare for someone below captain/vice captain rank to have a bankai he's not the only one. Tosen had his bankai while 3rd seat too. Same goes for Hitsugaya I think. Definitely unusual but far from unique.
What makes this 3rd form really awesome for me, is that the word BANKAI in my native language is CORPSE it ties in with the theme of bleach very well
My head canon was always that Ikkakus and Hozukimarus bond wasnt as strong as anyone elses in the story. I always felt that in his admiration of Zaraki he was, in essence, able to brute force his way to achieive that level of power. He couldnt fully utilize it though because he didnt care about it as a partner, just what it could help him achieve. I feel like the limitation of him having to wake Hozukimaru up in the first place is an indication of that.
His Bankai may have revealed himself to Ikkaku in a limited way just so he could have the hope of getting at least a little time in combat using his full power if Ikkaku could awaken the limited form. Like he got access to the power but nothing else just cause his Bankai wanted the chance to show off, if even just once, since Ikkaku was never likely to achieve Bankai on his own.
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I'd like to think that his Bankai is like Aang's Avatar state in ATLA a form where you are powerful yet vulnerable. Which is why his bankai is broken after the clash
I wish it was one of them moments where we find out that it's not its true form like with Renji's bankai.
I love Ikkaku. One of the best side characters in the series. His Bankai reveal was up there with Hisagi’s shikai reveal probably better because it’s Bankai. Although the animation paired with that OST for Hisagi vs Findor was undeniably better. I would have loved to see his Bankai actually manifest a dragon 🐉 when it reaches full power.
I like to think that his bankai breaks as an aspect to its whole "fight to your last breath" then it goes to sleep.
Literally always there but sleeping till he has to wake it up again.
the reveal was amazing
He is my favourite character, so his Bankai reveal had me punching the air and screaming!
He’s my favourite too which is why it was very disappointing that we never got to see his bankai again or even a modified/weakened version of it
now we need a top 10 bankais reveals
Since Kubo did nothing with him in the final saga i always felt like he should have had one more fight where he used his bankai and got killed during the 1st invasion
Ikkaku has definitely one of the Bankai in all of Bleach
I thought that the creator/forger/smith of the Zanpakuto said that sword can be repaired as the owner of the Zanpakuto healed if the sword could revert to it's sealed state and be sheathed in it's scabbard. I might have misunderstood that part. I seem to recall several instances of the swords being damaged in either form, shikai or bankai. Renji's got damaged regularly, but we also learn that is wasn't his true Bankai either. We also know that Ichigo's sword was broke in it's shikai state against Kenpachi's first fight with him, but instantly repairs itself without Ichigo even healing upon his internal conflict with Zangetsu. Mayuri also stated the the hilt of the Zanpakuto must remain intact for the sword to heal itself as well. Urahara destroyed Ichigo's hilt in training to become a soul reaper again, this prevented the sword from ever being able to return to its sealed state and effectively losing its scabbard. I think we also learn that the smithy never created Ichigo's sword in the first place and it wasn't really a true Zanpakuto to being with, which alters all comparisons in the process.
Coming back to this it makes me think that kubo might have ikkaku use his bankai again in the TYBW anime at some point probably toward the end, because they did leave the scene where ichigo finds out about ikkaku's bankai out of the anime, so there is hope we could see it again
I do not know if you pay a lot of attention to comments but I have 1 that I believe you have not covered. Can you breakdown how a Shinigama gets their Zanpokuto? How they get their sword. Does it choose them? Do they choose it? Is it just given to them? I know their are some unique cases but could you do a breakdown?
After the whole thing with Renji's Bankai it made me think something similar for Ikkaku's. Since Ikkaku has the tendency to limit himself to not stand out so he's can't be forced into captaincy, Hozukimaru also limited the bankai. Not so much in the obvious way you pointed out but in the same way that Zabimaru did to Renji or even old man "Zangetsu" did to Ichigo. So it's not his true bankai or it's only a fraction of one or something.
It could also be since he does hide his bankai and his true powers like Yumichika does, it has some sort of adverse affect on the bankai and possibly even the shikai. If he fully accepted his powers, then they might actually be stronger. It's not like he has to worry about it anymore with so many lieutenants with bankai or potentially with bankai and with the new wave of captains after the final timeskip he no longer needs to hide his powers. It's not like he's needed as a captain anymore. There's five former captains and one lieutenant out there still that could always come back too. And when Ichigo, Chad and Orihime die they all could be made captains as well. Hell, even Ginjo could be a captain. Tsukishima and Giriko could also train to become soul reapers as could any other Fullbringers who die. Ganju and even Kukaku are even more to think about since they are Shibas. The point being is that they're not hurting for potential captain candidates anymore so Ikkaku can finally stop limiting himself and maybe his Zanpakuto will do the same.
One of the most iconic and fan favorite bankai