Excellent tip for the shooter. I use a Primos tripod and it is trigger activated for height easy and rock steady. Hope they look and integrate your comment.
So thankful for this channel. I had no idea that some days I would be sitting around and think.... I want to watch a guy in Oz shoot some camels. Now I have that thought often. Thanks Mate
Jack, Your scope cameras really tell the story. You’re not a bad shot but you don’t have a steady platform to rest on which is why you’re running through so much ammo. You need to order a BogPod DeathGrip shooting rest. I’ve carted mine all over the world. Not the most convenient for running and gunning and they aren’t inexpensive but the amount of ammo you would save would pay for it very quickly and from what I see in your videos it would meet your needs most of the time. We use them exclusively on much faster animals than camels and they will give you a dead steady rest that will swivel as you turn. We’ve cut our missed shots while culling pigs and deer to the barest minimum. I set it to my desired height- sitting, kneeling, standing, etc and throw it in my vehicle. When I need to jump out and shoot it’s already to go. Hope you find this comment useful.
I dont think he is missing that many shots. The camels are a big animal and they could be hit but not react like smaller game. Carrying around an extended bi or tri pod isn’t really feasible for Jacks hunting. Given he is in and out of the car, on foot moving vast distances. The scope cam just makes it look more unsteady. But that’s life. Using a tree or going prone with short bi-pods works for him and has worked for me for nearly a decade.
@@DawesyDthat and the pump action of the MPR rifle wouldn't completely play well with a arca style or death grip ala clamp style tripod shooting setup. First shot and you'll have shunt the gun back and forth while attached to tripod, it'll take a while to get that arrangement to "flow" I reckon!
Glad to see your young helper exposed to safe firearms usage and pest control. Perhaps she can help when she is old enough. Is it practical to cut off a young ones hind quarter for human consumption or to supplement working dogs feed? I understand your distance from cold storage.
I think he’s an amazing shot, I think you’re forgetting he’s running and gunning better than 99% of the population and get plenty of practice. Most of us would be going for a heart or lung shot, bro’s dumping them with moving head shots. Amazing work
@@ronkeech908in mid to high 40c weather which is fucked I can taste that air from my time out west in the mines it’s not pleasant working in that weather let alone running around always holding my breath
That's maddening to have a rifle jamming up like that ! I expect you leave much of the camel to feed the scavangers ? I live on a predator free island that's over run with non native Belgian Hares. My Sweetie, neighbors and I can only eat so many... the rest are dropped off my pier. Which means neighbors and I have abundant crab to harvest too.
Triggercam is great, love the shooting footage! A shootingstick could be grate, I love my PH Rhino classic. Much more stability and no looking for branches and stuff to rest on. But a bit more gear to carry…
I commend you for the work you do even though your Australian government makes it so much harder on you, and coincidentally the camels to because it takes more shots to take them out. If they really cared about animals, they would want ranchers to have the best tools at their disposal. Cheers
like the new format. How on earth do other stations manage without the cameras? You know what is happening at all of your water points in real tine. Saw a short clip with your 3rd new plane, looking forward to an update.
A mate told me about your videos and this is the first of them I have seen. Good vid, I found my Sightmark Wraith great to use and get videos off. That bolt action looked like a real pig of a rifle to cycle. When you said lever I was thinking 30-30 or 44Mag though it was the trusty old 22lr hahahaha. Keep up the great work. I am going to binge watch all your vids
I hear you on the SD card. I had one in my dash cam , worked for 3 months and then stopped. Manufacturer sent me a proven one and no more issues. , but it was the same specs too. One worked the other did not. I don’t know if it’s the camera view, but looked like some shots were pulled 😮. 😜 Liked both cameras to be honest. I suggest some standing shooting sticks , light and easy to carry.
Hi Jack have you thought about placing some sort of a frame or something in the water troughs to save the finches from drowning. Enjoy your content Cheers Rick.
Great footage from the Pard DS35-70LRF... Craps all over that ScopeCam you were using before... And you should get a Trigger stick Tripod for sure mate, make life way easier for stable shooting. Great videos too, keep up the good work
Appreciate the videos. Are you able to hold the shot with the scope camera so we can see the success of your shots? It’s just hard to tell if it’s a hit or miss.
I love my Pard Ds 35-70!, the only problem I find with it is the short battery life but thats no deal breaker for me, just a heads up after I fried the first scope recharge the battery on a seperate charger and not in the scope. keep up the great work look forward to the next video.
JACK, I think I've watched over half your videos and you have never mentioned how you muster the cattle to the pens. Thanks a new subscriber from Washington State USA. Your pal AL.
I use two Pard 008s and the recording on them is ok, the 35 appears to be better. What is better is the Hikmicro Alpex, downside at night is you need an external IR source. Great scope for daytime use too
The PARD is a bit nicer to use, especially as it doesn't add extra length that eats up the eye relief, plus I have to change my hat angle to be able to look down the triggercam now. More software and startup issues with the triggercam. But if it's battery goes flat I can still use the glass optic. I guess I should do a video review.
Jack just a thought, have you considered a Browning BLR lever gun in 308? They can be ordered with 9 shot detachable mags and by memory the firearm breaks down into 2 pieces for easy travel. Cheers mate.
Here's a question for you: how sensitive are camels to vehicle noise incoming? If they are sensitive and easily spooked, then a series of speakers along the road into each water point that periodically plays the noise of a vehicle approaching will, for a time, greatly discourage them from hanging around. When they get used to this and ignore it, they get easier to shoot. On the shooting side of things, get yourself some quad sticks to shoot off. You can shoot off those standing up comfortably and get good, solid, accurate shots. I use quad sticks (and so does my 90-year old mother, who after a cataract operation has discovered shooting) for air rifle target shooting; easily as accurate as bench rest.
I would never of imagined that you guys would have trouble with camels. How the heck did that start. I really enjoy what you you record on your ventures.
Early years of settlement they used camel trains to transport goods inland. 1800's into the 1900's it was the only option. Once motor transport came available, those camel trains were released to run wild. Now the thousands have become many millions of ferals. Like the sailors of old, releasing a few goats and pigs as future food resources, at places they stopped to refresh water stores, those numbers soon bloomed into problem proportions. Good intentions with now problem results.
@@petelumley1578 lol. Well, to be honest it was the Afghan cameleer's that released them, not the settlers, but the Govt & the realities of the times that left them no viable option for their animals. They had to either cull them, or let them roam free. Camels, were uniquely evolved to survive in such a harsh environment. It would be beneficial to the country And the graziers if the current govts would spend the resources to properly combat the issue instead of donating many hundreds of millions to other countries issues. Something so simple as subsidizing graziers ammo expenses, and the legal usage of more appropriate firearm categories to more efficiently deal with the problem. The right tool for the job. That Jack is restricted to bolt or pump action rifles, (1, of over 100 year old design) is bloody stupid, while guys in govt jobs, fly around with unlimited ammo and semi auto rifles culling ferals from the air (coincidentally, few of those is privately licenced for semi auto, they all work on a corporate licence, same as the police). Sorry for the rant 🤣 This shit pisses me off.
Love the video(s) Look at the accuracy you’re getting whilst using bipods - great. But please look at quad sticks it’ll give you the same accuracy whilst standing up. I’ve shoot foxes out to 350 yards using quad sticks. Lightweight to carry and easy to use. The quad sticks I use are homemade using bean poles ( aluminium tubes covered in hard plastic) great to use around farms where there’s electric fences.
I checked AU ammo prices compared to what we pay in the USA. Holy Cow it is crazy expensive, I feel sorry for you guys. AU gun laws really hamper your shooting.
I just can't understand the government's of WA indifferent or even hostile attitude towards primary producers, the environment and the camels as demonstrated by the gun laws. All in the name of control, regulation and trying to force ranchers to use government contracts. It's brutal and I really commend you for pushing forward despite the hurdles they put up.
I got to give you a lot of credit for trying so hard for headshots. I think I would just go for double lung and call it good. Definitely better for the animal, downside is it takes more ammo.
Although a vast improvement with the scope camera the image appears to be lost when you pull the trigger. If you look at the guys controlling foxes, rabbits and hogs they appear to capture the kill shot and dropping of the target without all the shaking around.
Jack, clearly you know your business when it comes to managing feral camels, but I do have a suggestion. I notice that you frequently rest the barrel of the rifle on a support. it's good to have the support, but anything that touches the steel part of the barrel will cause it to resonate and deflect differently from shot to shot. If instead you rest the wood fore grip on the support the barrel will not have the varying influences on it, and your shot placement will be much more consistent. I suspect that by now you know as you pull the trigger if it's a good shot or not. But probably do get some surprises at times. a shot that seemed spot on goes wide. If you leave the barrel free and only rest on the wood you will have fewer of those surprise wide shots.
i have the older pard 008lrf, but really only use for night foxes, ferals etc. that unit seems to have better daytime than mine. would a rest on drivers window work, or does the car get them running? there's a cradle type rest i've seen some use, forget the name. anyways, great video, they can be tough buggers
Hi Jack and team, like to see u videos. How many camels, donkeys and horses are left or it's a lifetime job to culling them? You have ferrelcats and ferreldogs out there ? Cheers from Germany
Sometimes it looks like you dont hit moves last second , its focused on good little hot out there jack. Looking back over the vid again showing kick from the gun ....long story ive worked it out 😁😁
The camels have come in from the desert good chance never seen a human before, humanely dispatched. There is rain predicted in your area this week, with water they will move away from your station or hang around? Interesting to see the latest shooting equipment, a good swivel head tri pod would be a asset.
Scope cam takes it to another level! Great to watch!
If you invest in a mono or bipod shooting stick, it saves you from having to find a tree or getting on your belly to steady your shots.
I was thinking he needs a set of primos bi pod shooting sticks like I have
Excellent tip for the shooter. I use a Primos tripod and it is trigger activated for height easy and rock steady. Hope they look and integrate your comment.
Hi. Great footage. Just wondering what calibre your using in the pump action and are you not allowed a semiauto for that kind of work
Came to say this exact same thing. Primos makes some great ones but there are lots of options including just making your own simple V standing rest.
Bipod is 10 times better and faster then mono lol if your not crippled you don’t need that shit
Thanks
Thanks!
Awesome Thanks Frank!!!
Holy crap 3 hours to get 8 minutes 👏 brother your patience is on par with your shooting great work
So thankful for this channel. I had no idea that some days I would be sitting around and think.... I want to watch a guy in Oz shoot some camels. Now I have that thought often. Thanks Mate
Great shooting and great videos, and your little co-pilot is awesome. Thanks.
Huge fan of your content jack! You keep them camels in check🤘🏻
Just a heads up, the fimwear update for the pard just came out is will gives you more zoom in steps . Keep at it
Where is this? I can't find it online. Looks on the official site and the official importer site.
do you have a link for it i cant find it anywhere either cheers
@@Glimpsedshowit’s on the pard website
Where mate? I've looked everywhere. @@antj211
Nothing on google in relation to any new Pard DS firmware. Rang the UK importer and they've not heard of any new firmware.
Blows my mind how they just stand there 😂 Great video and optic cam is mint! Great content mate!
They are thirsty. Probably only water for miles.
blows their mind as well
It’s crazy like being shot at and the sound just does not faze them
Jack,
Your scope cameras really tell the story. You’re not a bad shot but you don’t have a steady platform to rest on which is why you’re running through so much ammo. You need to order a BogPod DeathGrip shooting rest. I’ve carted mine all over the world. Not the most convenient for running and gunning and they aren’t inexpensive but the amount of ammo you would save would pay for it very quickly and from what I see in your videos it would meet your needs most of the time. We use them exclusively on much faster animals than camels and they will give you a dead steady rest that will swivel as you turn. We’ve cut our missed shots while culling pigs and deer to the barest minimum. I set it to my desired height- sitting, kneeling, standing, etc and throw it in my vehicle. When I need to jump out and shoot it’s already to go. Hope you find this comment useful.
I dont think he is missing that many shots. The camels are a big animal and they could be hit but not react like smaller game.
Carrying around an extended bi or tri pod isn’t really feasible for Jacks hunting. Given he is in and out of the car, on foot moving vast distances.
The scope cam just makes it look more unsteady. But that’s life. Using a tree or going prone with short bi-pods works for him and has worked for me for nearly a decade.
@@DawesyDthat and the pump action of the MPR rifle wouldn't completely play well with a arca style or death grip ala clamp style tripod shooting setup. First shot and you'll have shunt the gun back and forth while attached to tripod, it'll take a while to get that arrangement to "flow" I reckon!
Glad to see your young helper exposed to safe firearms usage and pest control. Perhaps she can help when she is old enough. Is it practical to cut off a young ones hind quarter for human consumption or to supplement working dogs feed? I understand your distance from cold storage.
I think he’s an amazing shot, I think you’re forgetting he’s running and gunning better than 99% of the population and get plenty of practice.
Most of us would be going for a heart or lung shot, bro’s dumping them with moving head shots.
Amazing work
@@ronkeech908in mid to high 40c weather which is fucked I can taste that air from my time out west in the mines it’s not pleasant working in that weather let alone running around always holding my breath
Love the cam on the scope! Love too see that more!
Thanks Jack enjoy all of them
Shooting sticks are great and ez to carry. There are ones for Kneeling and taller ones for standing.
I'm addicted to your videos.
Amazing work that you do and excellent editing and content.
That's maddening to have a rifle jamming up like that !
I expect you leave much of the camel to feed the scavangers ?
I live on a predator free island that's over run with non native Belgian Hares.
My Sweetie, neighbors and I can only eat so many... the rest are dropped off my pier.
Which means neighbors and I have abundant crab to harvest too.
That sounds like literal heaven. I'm jealous.
I know that enfield has some feeding hangups but I still like it
Great video a word of advice a body shot is better than a miss other than that great work
Triggercam is great, love the shooting footage! A shootingstick could be grate, I love my PH Rhino classic. Much more stability and no looking for branches and stuff to rest on. But a bit more gear to carry…
I commend you for the work you do even though your Australian government makes it so much harder on you, and coincidentally the camels to because it takes more shots to take them out. If they really cared about animals, they would want ranchers to have the best tools at their disposal. Cheers
Unfortunately the Aus government cares more about children.
Thanks for all your effort. Awesome footage.
This trigger cam is a big improvement over the previous one. Although hopefully all the tech issues of the other get resolved.
Cool scope view, and great shot with that lever gun!
Good work Jack , a good marksman always keeps relaxed. The tri-pod works well A Jack !
Thanks Jack way cool,enjoy everytime
footage was great!
Texas
heart shot ❤
As a Texan it is very deadly
Your sidekick is adorable!
like the new format. How on earth do other stations manage without the cameras? You know what is happening at all of your water points in real tine. Saw a short clip with your 3rd new plane, looking forward to an update.
Many stations run choppers in Australia to manage the feral animals.
Scope cam footage is great, good work mate!
A mate told me about your videos and this is the first of them I have seen. Good vid, I found my Sightmark Wraith great to use and get videos off. That bolt action looked like a real pig of a rifle to cycle. When you said lever I was thinking 30-30 or 44Mag though it was the trusty old 22lr hahahaha. Keep up the great work. I am going to binge watch all your vids
Love that old M10 enfield. Certainly does the job.
I hear you on the SD card. I had one in my dash cam , worked for 3 months and then stopped. Manufacturer sent me a proven one and no more issues. , but it was the same specs too. One worked the other did not.
I don’t know if it’s the camera view, but looked like some shots were pulled 😮. 😜
Liked both cameras to be honest. I suggest some standing shooting sticks , light and easy to carry.
Hi Jack have you thought about placing some sort of a frame or something in the water troughs to save the finches from drowning. Enjoy your content Cheers Rick.
Yes, the water must become polluted fairly quickly, especially in the heat.... Maybe a🤔 swimming pool kickboard, anchored to a brick....
@@lockman1951😂
Great footage from the Pard DS35-70LRF... Craps all over that ScopeCam you were using before... And you should get a Trigger stick Tripod for sure mate, make life way easier for stable shooting. Great videos too, keep up the good work
Hey Jack, quick question do you guys have access to the 303 british Enfields? They are great rifles. I would think they'd be plentiful there.
Outstanding recording
Great decision and footage with the scope cam!
Appreciate the videos. Are you able to hold the shot with the scope camera so we can see the success of your shots? It’s just hard to tell if it’s a hit or miss.
You should look into getting a primos trigger stick style tripod to shoot from a standing position.
Love the scope cam
I love my Pard Ds 35-70!, the only problem I find with it is the short battery life but thats no deal breaker for me, just a heads up after I fried the first scope recharge the battery on a seperate charger and not in the scope. keep up the great work look forward to the next video.
I find the battery only drains fast when the inferred light is on .
@@bushyg6067 well it's primarily a night scope and that's what I use it for!!
Love the scope shots.. Queston tho, I never see you pick up the shells ,i know you must there good to reload ; See Ya
Get a light tripod, the primos trigger stick is very light and extremely fast to adjust, it would fits you
JACK, I think I've watched over half your videos and you have never mentioned how you muster the cattle to the pens. Thanks a new subscriber from Washington State USA. Your pal AL.
They use a one way trap door in the yard around the water troughs. No mustering. Common in arid Australian outback.
Love your show.
Love your new gear!
Unlike my dog, these camels don't appear gun shy.
Brilliant great footage way better 👍
I use two Pard 008s and the recording on them is ok, the 35 appears to be better. What is better is the Hikmicro Alpex, downside at night is you need an external IR source. Great scope for daytime use too
dude keep the trigger cam on the subject for 3 seconds so we can see it drop.... love the videos
Pard was really good
Over the years I have seen lots of camels in NT but you seem to have a fair share.
The new camera is brilliant….the shooting is pretty good too 😂😂
Love the AIA B2!!
The pard footage was good Jack.👍👍 Regards Peter.
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Dunno how you don’t get sick of that gun jamming up all the time.
Great video
Awesome job!
The image quality is better on this scope cam… I like both set ups.. what’s easier to mount and faster to start recording when turned on?
The PARD is a bit nicer to use, especially as it doesn't add extra length that eats up the eye relief, plus I have to change my hat angle to be able to look down the triggercam now.
More software and startup issues with the triggercam. But if it's battery goes flat I can still use the glass optic.
I guess I should do a video review.
The scope cam was very good a lot better than the other video
Love it!!
I'm an old lady now but one thing my Dad taught me was to drive with my knee.
Much better footage 👌
Keep the camel carnage cam footage coming!
Jack just a thought, have you considered a Browning BLR lever gun in 308? They can be ordered with 9 shot detachable mags and by memory the firearm breaks down into 2 pieces for easy travel. Cheers mate.
That or a Beretta BRX straight pull 10 round mag & a telescopic tripod.
@@craigparker4108yeah I seen that BRX variant on TFB TV vid the other day but they need to be available in Aus.
Really like the zoom. Stay on them with zoom. Great head shots. Get a tripod makes shooting easier.
Here's a question for you: how sensitive are camels to vehicle noise incoming?
If they are sensitive and easily spooked, then a series of speakers along the road into each water point that periodically plays the noise of a vehicle approaching will, for a time, greatly discourage them from hanging around. When they get used to this and ignore it, they get easier to shoot.
On the shooting side of things, get yourself some quad sticks to shoot off. You can shoot off those standing up comfortably and get good, solid, accurate shots. I use quad sticks (and so does my 90-year old mother, who after a cataract operation has discovered shooting) for air rifle target shooting; easily as accurate as bench rest.
I would never of imagined that you guys would have trouble with camels. How the heck did that start.
I really enjoy what you you record on your ventures.
Early years of settlement they used camel trains to transport goods inland.
1800's into the 1900's it was the only option.
Once motor transport came available, those camel trains were released to run wild.
Now the thousands have become many millions of ferals.
Like the sailors of old, releasing a few goats and pigs as future food resources, at places they stopped to refresh water stores, those numbers soon bloomed into problem proportions.
Good intentions with now problem results.
@@colb9916 Ah, bloody settlers 🤣
@@petelumley1578 lol.
Well, to be honest it was the Afghan cameleer's that released them, not the settlers, but the Govt & the realities of the times that left them no viable option for their animals.
They had to either cull them, or let them roam free.
Camels, were uniquely evolved to survive in such a harsh environment.
It would be beneficial to the country And the graziers if the current govts would spend the resources to properly combat the issue instead of donating many hundreds of millions to other countries issues.
Something so simple as subsidizing graziers ammo expenses, and the legal usage of more appropriate firearm categories to more efficiently deal with the problem. The right tool for the job.
That Jack is restricted to bolt or pump action rifles, (1, of over 100 year old design) is bloody stupid, while guys in govt jobs, fly around with unlimited ammo and semi auto rifles culling ferals from the air (coincidentally, few of those is privately licenced for semi auto, they all work on a corporate licence, same as the police).
Sorry for the rant 🤣 This shit pisses me off.
@@colb9916 No need to apologise buddy, I feel for you I really do.
Best of fortunes to you 🤝
Love the video(s)
Look at the accuracy you’re getting whilst using bipods - great. But please look at quad sticks it’ll give you the same accuracy whilst standing up. I’ve shoot
foxes out to 350 yards using quad sticks. Lightweight to carry and easy to use. The quad sticks I use are homemade using bean poles ( aluminium tubes covered in hard plastic) great to use around farms where there’s electric fences.
It worked great Jack
The stiff bolt would drive me crazy!
Good stuff.
Good work mate but bloody getting hot
I checked AU ammo prices compared to what we pay in the USA. Holy Cow it is crazy expensive, I feel sorry for you guys. AU gun laws really hamper your shooting.
Whats going price for 308 over there?
camerawork is awesome in this 👍
I just can't understand the government's of WA indifferent or even hostile attitude towards primary producers, the environment and the camels as demonstrated by the gun laws. All in the name of control, regulation and trying to force ranchers to use government contracts. It's brutal and I really commend you for pushing forward despite the hurdles they put up.
We're a tightly controlled police state, only the cops can have access to the proper stuff like the trg/swat etc.
I got to give you a lot of credit for trying so hard for headshots. I think I would just go for double lung and call it good. Definitely better for the animal, downside is it takes more ammo.
U must be joking. That was some poor shooting.
@@bushyg6067to be completely fair those old surplus rifles are rocking 4 MOA if you’re lucky.
Although a vast improvement with the scope camera the image appears to be lost when you pull the trigger. If you look at the guys controlling foxes, rabbits and hogs they appear to capture the kill shot and dropping of the target without all the shaking around.
i use a pard oo7on my cross bow and various rifles its just brilliant
The new pump AR10 is cool, but I still like the look of that old bolt gun, can't remember what you called it. Good vid and nice shooting.
Lee Enfield action chambered in 308 that takes m14 mags. A true Frankenstein’s monster.
Great work , have you tried a viper flex quad stick ..it might be a useful bit of equipment for you work ..subscribed 👍
What improvements to your weapon platform would you like to have?
Can you not use a monopod or a pair of shooting steady sticks?
Jack, clearly you know your business when it comes to managing feral camels, but I do have a suggestion. I notice that you frequently rest the barrel of the rifle on a support. it's good to have the support, but anything that touches the steel part of the barrel will cause it to resonate and deflect differently from shot to shot. If instead you rest the wood fore grip on the support the barrel will not have the varying influences on it, and your shot placement will be much more consistent. I suspect that by now you know as you pull the trigger if it's a good shot or not. But probably do get some surprises at times. a shot that seemed spot on goes wide. If you leave the barrel free and only rest on the wood you will have fewer of those surprise wide shots.
What do you do with the camels that die in the fence? Drag them out or move the fence?
How long does it take for critters to eat the carcasses..
It reminds me of Old School when Vince Vaughn tells his kid to cover his ears when the naughty words come out.
12.01
Did you manage a 2 for 1 deal ?
Great content mate!
i have the older pard 008lrf, but really only use for night foxes, ferals etc. that unit seems to have better daytime than mine. would a rest on drivers window work, or does the car get them running? there's a cradle type rest i've seen some use, forget the name. anyways, great video, they can be tough buggers
First the emu wars and now the camel wars. Australia just can't get a break can they?
Harder to get a semi auto lisence than an honest politician.
Nice shootin Jack !!
Did you watch this video? lol....way too many misses
Hi Jack and team, like to see u videos. How many camels, donkeys and horses are left or it's a lifetime job to culling them? You have ferrelcats and ferreldogs out there ?
Cheers from Germany
What do you do with all the dead camels?
do you reload your enfield shells if not I would like to know had I could get them
😂😂😂 your daughter is so cute❤
Sometimes it looks like you dont hit moves last second , its focused on good little hot out there jack. Looking back over the vid again showing kick from the gun ....long story ive worked it out 😁😁
The camels have come in from the desert good chance never seen a human before, humanely dispatched.
There is rain predicted in your area this week, with water they will move away from your station or hang around?
Interesting to see the latest shooting equipment, a good swivel head tri pod would be a asset.
THAT LITTLE ONE WAS A TUFF COOKIE
thing was a tank in disguise