AI BOOK PUBLISHER | I found a predatory book publisher and I need to share
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- hey lovely people, I recently discovered an ai based publisher and I want to hear your thoughts on it. Let me know what you think
I mentioned:
/ @bethanyatazadeh
/ @heartbreathings
/ @michelleschustermanau...
/ @katesbookdate
#authortube #aiart #selfpublishing #ai - บันเทิง
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oh these guys reached out to me for sponsorship as well... I sent them a bunch of questions asking how the company avoids stealing artist's work and bypassing licensing and also how they can ensure that there's a standard of quality considering we all know that AI does not produce perfect quality writing in even the simplest of contexts, and the response was basically along the lines of "the company is sensitive to these concerns and that's why we provide the option of having real humans work on the project as well" but then if you do want that, it's over $4000 a year + potential additional costs... and still using AI for multiple steps.
Appreciate you chatting about this, even just to make more people aware! AI can be used in certain processes for efficiency, yes, but the last thing I want is AI taking jobs away from real human artists who dedicate their lives to their craft..
Didn't Ana Neu recently get sponsored by them? 😭 I hate that these companies are targeting indie authors 😔 It's hard enough going the self-published route without being exploited and dragged down by AI too 😤 SMH
I was trying to figure out where I had heard about it, I think it was Ana!
i saw another author on youtube mention spines, but they were sponsored by them. it seemed iffy to me then too.
Ugh I hate this. Self publishing should take time!! It should take effort and hard work!!! :/// 😓 I agree that it feels like it’s exploiting authors who want to self publish but are overwhelmed by the process. Plus it’s going to further hurt the reputation of self publishing by putting lower quality half baked books out there. Why are we scared of things being hard lol. We do not need to make self publishing automated and easy. Also this is so expensive, you could absolutely self publish for less hiring real people
thanks for bringing more attention to these companies! there haven't been enough voices in the writing community speaking up about how insidious AI is becoming, especially in the self pub space.
😅 the video is basically “old man yells at cloud”, though
it’s not some random company “spines” fault …. the discussion is about the inevitability of AI throughout all industries 😅 soooo all that’s being said here is what anybody and everybody is saying about the impending AI apocalypse…
you can’t just be mad that modern tech is so good that any idiot can simply create a good cover at the push of a button … that’s just how the cookie has crumbled, and I don’t think pandora goes back in the box
we need to put on our big girl & boy pants and realize that cover art, formatting, and grammatical editing is simply parts of the equation that can be facilitated with recent tech developments;
AND even the “research” and writing can be facilitated by the tech as well; so then it comes down to individuals having novel idea(s) that they are passionate about putting their time and effort into marketing and sharing with the world
* the biggest issues are A) the zombie internet simulacra spiral race to the bottom & B) bigtechfascismm ;
Thank you so much for making this video! I also had serious concerns about Spines, it gives me vanity press vibes but cutting even more corners 🙃
@ananeu needs to see this. She was recently sponsored by spines
I was just saying this in my comment 😅 Glad I'm not alone. Spines seems so predatory
I was just thinking that.
I think ai can be fun to make character designs for your personal inspo board but it should not overstep past that
So, you're paying them $5,000 to sit on their rear ends and run your novel through Grammarly? For that kind of money you could pay real people who would do a much better job. This is insane, and so disheartening. I can empathize with people who feel the pull to cut corners on publishing using AI. I'm preparing to self-publish my debut novel this fall and the learning curve has been steep. But it's truly not worth it. I'm a firm believer that AI doesn't belong in the arts. It opens the door for predatory companies like this who see a way to exploit an author's desire to see their work in print for cash.
Even their website was written by AI 😂 Like, this web copy is so weak. And that's what they're doing with people's books. Yes, AI is inevitable, but not to replace creators. We may see a swing like this, but it won't stick.
Totally agree with you! And honestly, if you’ve spent so much time working on a novel and you’ve poured your heart into it, why present it to the world in the most slap-dash way possible? DO THE WORK to finish your project and finish it well by hiring professionals to do the parts you cannot (i.e. proofreaders, editors, cover designers, audio narrators, etc). Yes, it is expensive to hire that kind of service. Life is expensive. Start saving and invest your money in what is important to you.
The idea of AI proofreading a book is laughable. I’m sure it’s better than the spellcheck/grammar check in Word or Google Docs (or at least I hope so??), but we all know how many errors the grammar checks make. Language is too nuanced to be proofed by a computer. Grammar checks are forever correcting my work for phrases that _are not_ incorrect, it is simply me using older phrasing or something that sounds period appropriate for my historical romances. AI would strip my writing of its voice and character. Ew.
TL;DR it’s a no for me on AI.
Louder for the people in the back 👏
Exactly!
I love your videos by the way. It’s great to know that both you and Alyssa and Brielle share my point of view on the inclusion of AI in art because I follow the content of the three very closely and I appreciate seeing that harmony and support in this type of topic.
@@michelleciriaco9665 Ahhh thanks 🥰 Yeah, I've been listening to the conversation around AI for a while now and and it's just icky on so many levels.
Self-publisher here. Of course, you should never pay someone to publish your book for you - even if you're self-publishing. Those prices are insane. I can hire my own cover artist and editors (real editors) for less than 5k. The 70% thing is what you can get with Amazon KDP, so that's normal. But all that cost for what? A glorified version of Grammarly? Yikes.
I love how the ad I got was how to write an e-book using a *different* AI program.
I'm on the fence about this. After doing extensive research about self publishing in the last six months, I've realized that I will probably not be publishing anything. It's expensive. If I want to publish a 40,000 word book, it would cost at least $1,600 for the four editing jobs that folks suggest. And that's at a penny a word. Most editors charge between 1 to 3 cents per word. That's just the editing costs
On the one hand, I agree that this is predatory. On the other hand, I'm so tempted to throw them a NaNoWriMo dares novel rough draft and see what happens...
Publish in haste, repent at leisure...
Well.... this is terrifying.
I will never ever read a book that another person couldn't be bothered to even write. Same goes for AI publishing. Writers who go with Spines 100% will have their brand harmed by that decision.
So I agree with you that many people who do not have access to money or schooling or privilege that others take for granted
I uh, have no problem shaming people about using generated shlop based off of stolen work. Art is communal, as much as it is individual. It's about supporting folks, not creating as much content, as fast as you can. Capitalism was always going to end up screwing creatives, because as a system, it views profit as the main motivator. I get it is hard out here, especially considering how oversaturated it is with bots, and spam accounts, and this generated shlop. That doesn't mean succumb to the desire to produce, to make hollow your story, whether it's a fanfic with a sparkly vampire, or a massive epic fantasy saga. I believe in all aspiring authors, to find some level of success, which doesn't need to look like a ton of money, or fame. You can do it, and best believe, you'll need help along the way. And that's ok, because that is often the best way to bring out one's creative juices-by bouncing it back and forth with other creative folks.
AI, aka, automation, will never produce the quality that a unique individual can. It will eventually stagnate. The professional will reject it, and the layman will get bored of it. Just like every automated process ever, it has its limits. Although I don't think it's a long term threat to creative industries, it does disappoint me that it will probably have a grip on it in the minds of a lot of people for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if companies like this know that it will eventually become less desirable of a tool and are just try to cash in while they can. This kind of marketing also preys on people who haven't yet learned (or don't care about) the reality that you can't have the trio of fast, cheap, and quality all at once.
No matter where technology goes, there are truths that always remain the same, and I think it's important to remember that and not let the hype and drama shake us or scare us away from our callings and endeavors. Real will always be better, even if it's less popular at times, because what people love about art is the human soul behind it.
I laughed out loud at "comprehensive and quick"
Oh no, I just saw Ana Neu promoting them :/
That sounds fishy...
Unfortunately we will be seeing more and more of this. I'm in the film industry, used to be in animation, and I'm seeing a lot of animation artists and illustrators who are already struggling to find work because of this. And it just started.
Genuine question: if a human learns how to make art through other artists’ posting their art online, what is the difference between that and an AI learning how to make art through other artists’ art that they posted online?
This is such a great question! I'm not a visual artist so I'm not sure exactly how the community feels about it, but to me, it feels like the difference is in the humanity and creativity. I think the main gripe for ai art is that it is blatantly stealing the image and changing a few things rather than merely taking inspiration and learning 😊
My understanding of AI is that it's not synthesizing art to create something new, but amalgamating art to create a hodgpodge of other people's work.
@@alyssa.and.the.books. ahh I see now, the ai is not actually “learning.” Thanks!
@@miaramck6746 I see, it’s not actually “learning” like a human would. Thank you!
I'm sorry but for 5K, I can get an audiobook, eBook and paperback made by real people. I've gotten my covers as cheap as 50 and editing for as cheap as 300. What's going to cost me the most is an audiobook narrator and I've gotten a quote for about 3K for dual narration. Sooo... Yeah... For the same price they want to charge, I can pay human beings to make the art.
So expensive!!! You could hire real professionals for those prices!
I'm sorry but even if you an author out there has $5000 to spend on publishing their boo, there are tons of avenues that they could get all the services required to self-publish to meet that budget and less. Audiobooks would likely be the most expensive service being offered there and even then there are royalty share options through ACX, and other platforms that can get you the same outcome for much cheaper. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against the idea of AI, I believe there can be ethical ways to utilize AI (social media captions, or marketing copy for example, heck even brainstorming if you don't have other options). But as presented here, there is nothing to confirm your book won't be just reused for training and repurposed for their other clients, nothing to say who retains the copyright of the published manuscripts, and with the prices, nothing to separating this company from a vanity press in my eyes.
Oh, lawd... Why? Just why? So if you give it your manuscript, how soon before you see several other published books that are hella crazy similar to your story?
UGH.
Also, as someone who just self pubbed a book, did my own editing, cover, and will do my own audiobook... the only things I pay for are my graphic/audio softwares and Word. It's not hyper expensive to self pub. Time consuming? Yes. But monetarily, it's way cheaper than this company.
if you want this video to get more views you should put Spines in the title. and make the logo bigger on the thumbnail.
Wow a gen z wokester crying about AI...take it like a man bro 😂
The prices are insane! 🫨
Right??? The affordability claim is wild