When I heard James Labrie attempting to sing those high notes on "The Mirror" and failing, I laughed hysterically. Especially when you put JP's (fake) reaction and the crowd covering their ears. I wonder was that picture of the crowd from the Live at Wacken Show?
Too bad this is fake, he says in the real unedited interview that he removed the vocals from his mix because the mic picks the sound from the audience and the drums during live performances, and he says that it bothers him and that he wanted his mix to sound close to studio. Still, no need to fabricate such a fake video when it is self evident that James LaBrie's vocal abilities have dramatically diminished over the years.
Very, very well edited but just for all the people that haven't watched the whole video this is manipulated, he doesn't have JLB in his mix because he'd get bleed from everything going on on the stage and he doesn't like the ambient sound that produces
I have an experience in recording live perforamce. I don't think dynamic mics would capture audio from a large radius and is as noisy and unfocused as that of a camera mic which produces the sound that petrucci claims to hear from Labrie's mic. I sense that Petrucci is trying to make an alibi and deep down, is in denial of how bad Labrie is
@@imjustsaying4807 I think he uses a Neumann KMS 105 live, which is a condenser mic. You can also hear in the IEM show from Loud Park in 2014 how he is picking up a lot of cymbals when he gets close to Mangini. I think that's why they put the whole drumkit higher in the 2019 tour.
th-cam.com/video/JlENxNsHTVc/w-d-xo.html Go to 37:26 Also most of this video is John talking about Allen holdsworth’s insane difficult playing. At 0:31 he is talking about how he is known for constantly tweaking his guitar sound
You can laugh off the issue but it's actually a very serious problem. Anyone who criticizes La Brie's vocals gets condemned for 'unnecessary' remarks and disrespect. It gets to a point where La Brie's vocals are just unbearable to listen to. Huge shame since he actually has a brilliant voice but can't control himself.
I'm on the fence about whether or not to release "James LaBrie's Sons Of Apollo Audition." Probably won't, but that's out of respect for Sons Of Apollo, not James.
Don't get me wrong. I think he's an awesome vocalist, but I think he's a terrible fit in the same way that JP or Paul Gilbert would be in Periphery. A band that is designed to have three guitarists playing complimentary riffs. JP loves to take the spotlight and play every solo and share it with JR. Well, to emphasize my point imagine Spencer Sotelo singing pull me under and ask yourself if it really has the same feel as Labrie despite all the slanderous performances that have been played on youtube. James tends to be better live in my experience then a bunch of YT videos late in their tours when he is clearly suffering from vocal fatigue.
Bob Dole i see your point and your right. To be honest i cant think of any vocalist that would fit. I mean in terms of a progressive rock voice i think sotelo is the only one i can think of. Or you know you could just let John's guitar be the vocals haha
I hope this is fake because it would be one thing if John were oblivious to the fact that James is unlistenable nowadays, but if he acknowledged that and still wouldn't do anything about it... Shame on him
woodsroamer this is an edit, he says in the original interview "it's NOT because I don't love his voice, it's because of the open mic and the cymbal wash polluting my mix"
For those who also don't like LaBrie, but wish Petrucci wrote more solo stuff, check out Buckethead. That's where I found a new groove that was even better than DT. I miss the keyboards a bit, but not much. (Liquid Tension should have written more stuff.) But seriously, man. Why put together a badly edited interview?
0:16 it's completely fake. I've listened to the original one. Petrucci says "it's not because I don't love James's voice." it's edited. This whole page is loaded with lots of fake information. So be careful guys whatever you are listening. These are just some shit. Ignore it and enjoy whatever you've got. They may not be that good that they used to be, but truth is that THEY ARE DREAM THEATER
and you're not sad that the "Score" DVD to which people use snippets of Innocence Faded and hailed it as "Labrie's BEST Live Moment" actually contained fake overdubbed vocals?
@@imjustsaying4807 What you say is true. What is shown in this video is not. Nothing to discuss about it. And to answer you, when "Once in a Livetime" came out people had to complain about LaBrie's exhibition cause they did never forget his voice style which turned out into something different after the Awake tour. Since then every recorded Live performance of DT is modified in a way or another. Now people complain about the fake vocals with no clue of the 20 years spent overdubbing the vocals. They should now release a "raw and pure" version of their live performances just for you, but then you would complain about the terrible voice LaBrie has so... there just is no cure for you. By the way i suggest not to take references from videos of DT's live and go listen to them in the actual tour. I assure you there is no comparison. Records obviously cut most of the energy and the touch they actually show on the stage.
@@KnockOutUrMind actually there is a cure for this problem....ummm...you know? Like, KICK THE PIRATE OUT OF THE BAND? But I guess you are right, we really won't get the cure because good ol' Squeekybeard's other crewmates are just a bunch of sentimental fools to make him walk the plank. Now who on earth with integrity cares if overdubbing has been going on for 20 years? Fakery is still fakery. Heck, bride kidnapping has been a practice in Kazakhstan for God knows how long. Now, does the longevity of such messed-up deed make it morally correct? And I'm sorry but the "Go to live shows because cellphone videos misrepresent James" is just pathetic. It's funny you pull that card to justify older Labrie's blunder when nobody even complained that old recordings which were captured using low-ass quality camcorders from the 90's misrepresented the younger Labrie back when he was a better singer. I'm pretty sure that Labrie is grateful for these dogshit quality clips of his younger self because it gives people (especially those who barf at how horrid he is today) a reason to become a fan of his at least until half of them get a reality check that he is far from the performer we all knew and loved. Come on man! I don't see that excuse anywhere except the DT fanbase
@@imjustsaying4807 I don't know how confident you are about being a musician, but changing any component is like a really really big deal. Not just about a personality and ability reason, but especially from a creativity POV, is something that actually would definitely disband DT. So it's not just a sentimental matter, especially if we consider how sentimental should have been kicking (or allowing to auto-kick himself) Portnoy. And i really challange you to go listen to some DT tribute bands. Most of those guys are really great musicians, but still you can say you can't change LaBrie for anyone else, even now that he sucks af. You can take a try with Portnoy's The Shattered Fortress tour also. The singer is really good, but you have to add a "but" after this sentence. You build a very strong empathy with the singer as it's the human part of the music, in a level that you can't imagine it with different voice. And if you can, since you can, you can't call them Dream Theater anymore, back to the start. 20 years of overdubbing is to justify a lack of ability, without considering his throat desease. Bride kidnapping is to justify... nothing. I'm not saying we have to enjoy him because of his own self-careless. I'm saying we have to consider his story to understand why he is like what he is, as understanding is the first step to move on, for god sake. Because overdubbing is a consequence of years of lame complaints of people pretending you always have to be perfect. But playing live is literally a way to expose your strenghts and weaknesses. No band has a perfect live performance, so if you record it you have to act on what you can act on to make it perfect, making it a live exibition anymore. Like i don't understand this attitude in which you can't, or you don't want to, face the fact that he sucks and move on. We're stucked here since like atleast 12 years. Isn't it boring? Same as not going over Portnoy's desertion. Most of the time, when i ask about the last album, all the answers touch LaBrie's voice to justify how much they didn't enjoy the songs. It's really sad, seems people can't find something they like, just to live expressing how much they didn't like. Even Petrucci changed a lot of his playing style, from picking to music tastes, and nobody has something to say about it. As you pretend freedom to express what you think, bring in your expressions freedom of being what the matter of your expression want to be, or want to choose, or want to play and compose and think, so that you can express what you think. I heard LaBrie's Cameo vids for people and were terrible, i know myself how bad he is. Just tell me something i don't know, let's go over it. Saying 'James sucks' kills the debate at its birth, just like 'I want Portnoy back' or 'Better with Moore'. Something like where you share with me your honest opinion about why the other members prefer to keep playing with him instead of finding a new member. I bet they would do that if it was that simple, isn't it? I didn't say you have to go live show to appreciate LaBrie. I said you can't build an opinion based on live show's youtube videos. I went to the DoT tour show, reason why i tell you you have to check what they still have to say. I repeat myself, i'm not saying LaBrie is better live. It's just a totally different experience than listening to recorded album, and even more listening to live performances on yt. Petrucci messed some solos, the bass volume was (as always here in Italy) very low, electricity went down at half live, but still i'm not forcing myself hating them because of that, neither i'm forcing myself loving them because of everything else happened there. I enjoyed the show, as we all should, so that we can properly discuss. I can say you have not to trust in people saying LaBrie is getting better, it's totally false. They're just getting used to his voice, under the human habitual response, and whenever he kicks a good note they get surprised. Also i can say you have not to trust in people saying he sucks bicycle wheels, because they get used to the fact he sucks and keep basing their opinion on that. Go listen to them as if it's the first time you hear them and tell me what you think. Really, check what happens to his voice live with the crew behind him playing. I'm very very curious about that, and it's the only way you can understand what you really think about it. You obviously hear older performances with different ears, just because of the big time divary. But still, as you said, no one complained about 90's performances, even if they were modified once recorded and launched on a CD/DVD album or even if they were old 90's handmade cameras recorded, with all the band's smears and blunbers. Still in the late 90's he sucked, and still no one complained about it. So why complaining now that he keeps sucking? Actually is the most coherent member of the band lmao. Isn't it possible that we're all getting used to some type of musical product that deny any other possibility than perfection? Alright i'm offtopicing. Anyway i don't see those accuses anywhere except the DT fanbase, reason why there is this moot interchange everywhere in here.
@@KnockOutUrMind Alright, it seems that your first reply to me a year ago made me think you're one of Labrie's blind-ass supporters, I'm gonna hold from being hostile now that you seem to be more of a reasonable fan who's in the neutral ground. Yeah, I do understand the "changing one component" thing. In fact, I also have bands whom I think would cause a great rift in their fanbase if they actually change 1 important member. How on earth is Linkin Park gonna continue without Chester Bennignton? I also can't imagine Trivium to be Trivium anymore if Matt Heafy leaves. However, that isn't the case for me with James Labrie. There are big factors to that, the 1st one (and I think the biggest one) is due to the fact that DT is no Linkin Park. When talking about a band like DT, what comes to mind is long-duration songs and super virtuosic displays of musicianship rather than soaring vocals. The 2nd being that while Labrie did become a signature for Dream Theater, he became one for rather ugly reasons. There's no denying that he has one of the most unique voices in prog or music as a whole. This uniqueness of his however is more about having a vocal tone that didn't really age well and tons of lackluster performances giving us the impression that he isn't on par with the other crew's virtuosity. As Gordon Ramsay would put it, "Yeah, it's unique! Uniquely shit!" At least the other 2 bands' singers I mentioned don't give their own groups a bad name
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Dude, you have a great sense of humor.
While I don’t like the Labrie bashing, the editing is amazing, the video is pretty funny, and the title is hilarious!
Lol this is actually well done
"John Petrucci - Beating Off With Rick Soundo"
amazing title
LOL I'm relieved to know it's not just me
Signals Music Studio the interview was edited.. he didbt tell that
The legend
We all have to pretend like when LaBrie sings high notes it’s just as good as it ever was!
Rick's face on the last frame of the video says it all
I always did and always will count DT as my alltime favourite band, though this really made me laugh :D Well done!
title of this video is kind of fucked up.
'Beating off'
' ,:/
When I heard James Labrie attempting to sing those high notes on "The Mirror" and failing, I laughed hysterically. Especially when you put JP's (fake) reaction and the crowd covering their ears.
I wonder was that picture of the crowd from the Live at Wacken Show?
TheMusicGuy88 I laughed so hard at this video exactly at those times you mentioned...🤣🤣🤘🏻
Too bad this is fake, he says in the real unedited interview that he removed the vocals from his mix because the mic picks the sound from the audience and the drums during live performances, and he says that it bothers him and that he wanted his mix to sound close to studio. Still, no need to fabricate such a fake video when it is self evident that James LaBrie's vocal abilities have dramatically diminished over the years.
how is this fake.? the guy clearly says he doesn't like the way he sings.
Majestic
The fact that Petrucci can't stand his voice kinda says it all.
This is edited (but im pretty sure that petrucci indeed cant stand his voice)
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he said it for real.
Josh White- Puller Of Strings then it is not a fake in reality. lol
It's obviously humorously edited to make it seem like he's attacking James. Watch the actual interview.
HAHAHA man this is fucking gold mate, gold!
I don't know... his vocals on Wait For Sleep were pretty mesmerizing. Then again, John did specify that OLD LaBrie was better.
Very, very well edited but just for all the people that haven't watched the whole video this is manipulated, he doesn't have JLB in his mix because he'd get bleed from everything going on on the stage and he doesn't like the ambient sound that produces
I have an experience in recording live perforamce. I don't think dynamic mics would capture audio from a large radius and is as noisy and unfocused as that of a camera mic which produces the sound that petrucci claims to hear from Labrie's mic. I sense that Petrucci is trying to make an alibi and deep down, is in denial of how bad Labrie is
@@imjustsaying4807 I think he uses a Neumann KMS 105 live, which is a condenser mic. You can also hear in the IEM show from Loud Park in 2014 how he is picking up a lot of cymbals when he gets close to Mangini. I think that's why they put the whole drumkit higher in the 2019 tour.
th-cam.com/video/JlENxNsHTVc/w-d-xo.html
Go to 37:26
Also most of this video is John talking about Allen holdsworth’s insane difficult playing. At 0:31 he is talking about how he is known for constantly tweaking his guitar sound
This is hilarious and so true!
D. Corso and also fake and edited see my comment
Petruccis dialogue is obviously chopped before the end of his sentences but labrie... That was raw and uncut im afraid
Damn Petrucci. It’s your fucking call now
You can laugh off the issue but it's actually a very serious problem. Anyone who criticizes La Brie's vocals gets condemned for 'unnecessary' remarks and disrespect. It gets to a point where La Brie's vocals are just unbearable to listen to. Huge shame since he actually has a brilliant voice but can't control himself.
How very Djoowish of him, to be beyond all criticism and if you criticize you’re the one with a problem
You could do a James labrie video on the f# of learning to live
No no no, only bad things about him on this channel
younger Labrie's F#5 clips are solid proofs to disprove the bullshit Labrie fans say that "low quality cameras make him sound bad"
Uh oh hahahaha! If Labrie raged on you for that American Idol video which really was a joke, I can't imagine what he will think of this one XD
I'm on the fence about whether or not to release "James LaBrie's Sons Of Apollo Audition." Probably won't, but that's out of respect for Sons Of Apollo, not James.
Shit! That’s not what he said. Check out the real video. This one’s edited
sherlock holmes in da house
hahahahah xD
I just realized what your name means, funny my dude
Also imagine if Spencer Sotelo was vocals. Now that would be somewhat acceptable haha
Michael Darbinian not a good for DT at all
Bob Dole i could see it working. Especially if their next album is going to be classic hardrock as they said
Nomad Music BK haha very true.
Don't get me wrong. I think he's an awesome vocalist, but I think he's a terrible fit in the same way that JP or Paul Gilbert would be in Periphery. A band that is designed to have three guitarists playing complimentary riffs. JP loves to take the spotlight and play every solo and share it with JR. Well, to emphasize my point imagine Spencer Sotelo singing pull me under and ask yourself if it really has the same feel as Labrie despite all the slanderous performances that have been played on youtube. James tends to be better live in my experience then a bunch of YT videos late in their tours when he is clearly suffering from vocal fatigue.
Bob Dole i see your point and your right. To be honest i cant think of any vocalist that would fit. I mean in terms of a progressive rock voice i think sotelo is the only one i can think of. Or you know you could just let John's guitar be the vocals haha
Why are you posting someone else's video?
I wish this wasn't edited.
th-cam.com/video/JlENxNsHTVc/w-d-xo.html
Yep! Go to 36:40 to hear what he REALLY said.
Time for a change. No more squealing
Michael Darbinian they just signed a long time record deal w sony I dont thinm they're changing
It's time to pick up the pieces, go back to square one.
Josh Swoope shit
the whole video is fake fyi
I hope this is fake because it would be one thing if John were oblivious to the fact that James is unlistenable nowadays, but if he acknowledged that and still wouldn't do anything about it... Shame on him
woodsroamer this is an edit, he says in the original interview "it's NOT because I don't love his voice, it's because of the open mic and the cymbal wash polluting my mix"
Song at 0:38?
Lie
That was just sad.
For those who also don't like LaBrie, but wish Petrucci wrote more solo stuff, check out Buckethead. That's where I found a new groove that was even better than DT. I miss the keyboards a bit, but not much. (Liquid Tension should have written more stuff.)
But seriously, man. Why put together a badly edited interview?
Nice editing. .prolly lots of fruity loops or audacity time inserting recordings to perfect a fake statement. .😉
Hahahaha yo cut the "not" but well done. Honestly, James voice has deteriorated so much in the past few years.
Holy shit, why can't they just fire him already
LMAO!!!!! omg holy shit
0:16 it's completely fake. I've listened to the original one. Petrucci says "it's not because I don't love James's voice." it's edited. This whole page is loaded with lots of fake information. So be careful guys whatever you are listening. These are just some shit. Ignore it and enjoy whatever you've got. They may not be that good that they used to be, but truth is that THEY ARE DREAM THEATER
lol
lmfao
Honestly stopped listening after Mike left, the robot chicken needs to go too.
Hahaha!
Sad thing is that people actually believe in what you've shown in this video. Like really.
and you're not sad that the "Score" DVD to which people use snippets of Innocence Faded and hailed it as "Labrie's BEST Live Moment" actually contained fake overdubbed vocals?
@@imjustsaying4807 What you say is true. What is shown in this video is not. Nothing to discuss about it.
And to answer you, when "Once in a Livetime" came out people had to complain about LaBrie's exhibition cause they did never forget his voice style which turned out into something different after the Awake tour. Since then every recorded Live performance of DT is modified in a way or another. Now people complain about the fake vocals with no clue of the 20 years spent overdubbing the vocals. They should now release a "raw and pure" version of their live performances just for you, but then you would complain about the terrible voice LaBrie has so... there just is no cure for you.
By the way i suggest not to take references from videos of DT's live and go listen to them in the actual tour. I assure you there is no comparison. Records obviously cut most of the energy and the touch they actually show on the stage.
@@KnockOutUrMind actually there is a cure for this problem....ummm...you know? Like, KICK THE PIRATE OUT OF THE BAND?
But I guess you are right, we really won't get the cure because good ol' Squeekybeard's other crewmates are just a bunch of sentimental fools to make him walk the plank. Now who on earth with integrity cares if overdubbing has been going on for 20 years? Fakery is still fakery. Heck, bride kidnapping has been a practice in Kazakhstan for God knows how long. Now, does the longevity of such messed-up deed make it morally correct? And I'm sorry but the "Go to live shows because cellphone videos misrepresent James" is just pathetic. It's funny you pull that card to justify older Labrie's blunder when nobody even complained that old recordings which were captured using low-ass quality camcorders from the 90's misrepresented the younger Labrie back when he was a better singer. I'm pretty sure that Labrie is grateful for these dogshit quality clips of his younger self because it gives people (especially those who barf at how horrid he is today) a reason to become a fan of his at least until half of them get a reality check that he is far from the performer we all knew and loved. Come on man! I don't see that excuse anywhere except the DT fanbase
@@imjustsaying4807 I don't know how confident you are about being a musician, but changing any component is like a really really big deal. Not just about a personality and ability reason, but especially from a creativity POV, is something that actually would definitely disband DT. So it's not just a sentimental matter, especially if we consider how sentimental should have been kicking (or allowing to auto-kick himself) Portnoy. And i really challange you to go listen to some DT tribute bands. Most of those guys are really great musicians, but still you can say you can't change LaBrie for anyone else, even now that he sucks af. You can take a try with Portnoy's The Shattered Fortress tour also. The singer is really good, but you have to add a "but" after this sentence. You build a very strong empathy with the singer as it's the human part of the music, in a level that you can't imagine it with different voice. And if you can, since you can, you can't call them Dream Theater anymore, back to the start.
20 years of overdubbing is to justify a lack of ability, without considering his throat desease. Bride kidnapping is to justify... nothing. I'm not saying we have to enjoy him because of his own self-careless. I'm saying we have to consider his story to understand why he is like what he is, as understanding is the first step to move on, for god sake. Because overdubbing is a consequence of years of lame complaints of people pretending you always have to be perfect. But playing live is literally a way to expose your strenghts and weaknesses. No band has a perfect live performance, so if you record it you have to act on what you can act on to make it perfect, making it a live exibition anymore. Like i don't understand this attitude in which you can't, or you don't want to, face the fact that he sucks and move on. We're stucked here since like atleast 12 years. Isn't it boring? Same as not going over Portnoy's desertion. Most of the time, when i ask about the last album, all the answers touch LaBrie's voice to justify how much they didn't enjoy the songs. It's really sad, seems people can't find something they like, just to live expressing how much they didn't like. Even Petrucci changed a lot of his playing style, from picking to music tastes, and nobody has something to say about it. As you pretend freedom to express what you think, bring in your expressions freedom of being what the matter of your expression want to be, or want to choose, or want to play and compose and think, so that you can express what you think. I heard LaBrie's Cameo vids for people and were terrible, i know myself how bad he is. Just tell me something i don't know, let's go over it. Saying 'James sucks' kills the debate at its birth, just like 'I want Portnoy back' or 'Better with Moore'. Something like where you share with me your honest opinion about why the other members prefer to keep playing with him instead of finding a new member. I bet they would do that if it was that simple, isn't it?
I didn't say you have to go live show to appreciate LaBrie. I said you can't build an opinion based on live show's youtube videos. I went to the DoT tour show, reason why i tell you you have to check what they still have to say. I repeat myself, i'm not saying LaBrie is better live. It's just a totally different experience than listening to recorded album, and even more listening to live performances on yt. Petrucci messed some solos, the bass volume was (as always here in Italy) very low, electricity went down at half live, but still i'm not forcing myself hating them because of that, neither i'm forcing myself loving them because of everything else happened there. I enjoyed the show, as we all should, so that we can properly discuss. I can say you have not to trust in people saying LaBrie is getting better, it's totally false. They're just getting used to his voice, under the human habitual response, and whenever he kicks a good note they get surprised. Also i can say you have not to trust in people saying he sucks bicycle wheels, because they get used to the fact he sucks and keep basing their opinion on that. Go listen to them as if it's the first time you hear them and tell me what you think. Really, check what happens to his voice live with the crew behind him playing. I'm very very curious about that, and it's the only way you can understand what you really think about it.
You obviously hear older performances with different ears, just because of the big time divary. But still, as you said, no one complained about 90's performances, even if they were modified once recorded and launched on a CD/DVD album or even if they were old 90's handmade cameras recorded, with all the band's smears and blunbers. Still in the late 90's he sucked, and still no one complained about it. So why complaining now that he keeps sucking? Actually is the most coherent member of the band lmao. Isn't it possible that we're all getting used to some type of musical product that deny any other possibility than perfection? Alright i'm offtopicing. Anyway i don't see those accuses anywhere except the DT fanbase, reason why there is this moot interchange everywhere in here.
@@KnockOutUrMind Alright, it seems that your first reply to me a year ago made me think you're one of Labrie's blind-ass supporters, I'm gonna hold from being hostile now that you seem to be more of a reasonable fan who's in the neutral ground.
Yeah, I do understand the "changing one component" thing. In fact, I also have bands whom I think would cause a great rift in their fanbase if they actually change 1 important member. How on earth is Linkin Park gonna continue without Chester Bennignton? I also can't imagine Trivium to be Trivium anymore if Matt Heafy leaves. However, that isn't the case for me with James Labrie. There are big factors to that, the 1st one (and I think the biggest one) is due to the fact that DT is no Linkin Park. When talking about a band like DT, what comes to mind is long-duration songs and super virtuosic displays of musicianship rather than soaring vocals. The 2nd being that while Labrie did become a signature for Dream Theater, he became one for rather ugly reasons. There's no denying that he has one of the most unique voices in prog or music as a whole. This uniqueness of his however is more about having a vocal tone that didn't really age well and tons of lackluster performances giving us the impression that he isn't on par with the other crew's virtuosity. As Gordon Ramsay would put it, "Yeah, it's unique! Uniquely shit!" At least the other 2 bands' singers I mentioned don't give their own groups a bad name
He can’t sing the mirror anymore
Is this real lol
Bigote Martinez no
Hahahaha yo cut the "not" but well done. Honestly, James voice has deteriorated so much in the past few years.