Near-Death Experiences: A New Interpretation
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John Martin Fischer gives a lecture about near death experiences at Washington State University.
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When I was six my dad was working the roof of our 1 1/2-story ranch and left the ladder beside the house. I grabbed my toy tool belt and went up to join him. My dad in shock when I topped him on the shoulder, screamed and I rolled off the roof and hit the concrete patio below. *Lights Out* I woke up and stood up just to watch my Father race down the ladder in hysterics. I dust myself off, told him. "I'm all right." dusting myself off. Dad did not listen he ran right through me and picked up a lifeless rag doll. LONG story short. I followed my Father into the house. I was there as he cradled my lifeless body in his arms in hysterics. My brothers and sisters screaming on the phone for EMT's (in those days it took 15-20 minutes for them to arrive.) At one point, unable to comprehend as six year old. I sat down on the floor of the living room as everyone ran through me. My mom ran to the bathroom for cold compresses. I began to hysterical myself. NO ONE SAW OR HEARD ME RIGHT THERE! I was then I became aware of the Extremely beautiful white light behind me and left. And what I could only term as an "Angel" a Woman in a flowing tunic-like robe come up behind me and embrace me from behind. "It will be alright, little one." Just as she embraced me. In an INSTANT the six-year-old was gone and I had the intellect of an adult. .. "Am I dead?" I said meekly as I was enfolded in INFINITE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND PEACE in her arms. "Yes.." As both of us then watched the scene unfold. The twenty-minute wait.. The EMTs worked on me for another ten minutes.. During this, I had a "Life Review" not only my short life. But the Lives of EVERYONE in that room and how my death would affect them for the rest of their lives! I not only saw it. I EXPERIENCED every second of them, living with that memory for the rest of their lives. I was IN THEM. All I wanted to do was to stay with her in that UNIMAGINABLE, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND PEACE. But after seeing how the rest of those people would carry the memory of a six-year-old dying in their arms. I KNEW that staying was selfish of me. With tears in my eyes. "I have to go back." Not as a question but as a statement. She smiled.. "Yes you do." "Will I ever see you again?" "When its time. I'll be there for you." And I returned to my body. The process of which I can describe as being flipped out of a warm down bed on a winter's night and dropped in a Black ICE COLD Pond in which you have for dear life to struggle to get back to the surface. HELL.. I came to consciousness again in my body as paramedics were about to give me the paddles. I kicked one in the jaw and got up and ran to Mother for protection.. As everyone laughed. I was in the Hospital for 3 days for observation. But I returned home with the memory of the experience and intellect far a head of my age.
Look, if you're going to be a Researcher on Near-Death Experiences. You better be a NDE experience yourself. This goes Beyond Science. We're NOT making this all up nor is brain fantasy during the process of dying.
What I experienced was BEYOND Mortal Understanding. It affected my entire life.. 53-year-old Anthropology Degree Holder. DEEPLY Spiritual.
PS.. I didn't want to come back. That place I was in was TOTAL LOVE, TOTAL BLISS, TOTAL UNDERSTANDING OF UNIVERSE AND MEANING OF IT ALL!!! That being of Light I KNOW has been with me throughout several life times. Your World is a LIVING HELL compared to that place.. I didn't want to come back. I came back for the people in that room. Out of Love for them .. Even the paramedics who had tears in their lives trying to bring me back. I came back for them.
If you of the Scientific Community can not accept that there are things in Heaven and Earth beyond your egotistical self-importance. You should not be in the scientific community yourself. Stop calling us that have actually experienced it. Delusional or misguided. Because we don't fit your preconceived and bigoted THEORY of reality.
I read your account and it was so detailed, so jaw dropping.. You should submit it to some of the best authors of such books for inclusion.
Very interesting, one of the best I’ve read. Thank you for sharing
@@Vort317545 Your story has spoken to my heart and has given me evidence and hope. I believe.
Wow
My boyfriend was in the hospital and the doc explained he would likely not make it.
He and I were alone about half hour later and suddenly, he looked up and to the left and said "Dad? Is that you? What are you doing here?" ( His dad had died about four years previously).
A few seconds later, he seized and passed. No one could convince me that his dad wasn't there, waiting to take him to Heaven.
I'm sorry truly for your loss
I'm sorry for your loss. Deep in my soul I know Jesus and Heaven are real, and only those friends of Jesus can go there. I hope and pray your bf and his dad are there.
According to family my grandmother did the same thing with her husband long passed away. She had Alzheimer's and was not clear but suddenly sat up and spoke to him, passed half an hour later.
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Wow. There is definitely something that happens before death. Thanks for sharing.
The Doctors were going to pull the plug on me and my wife brought my children to the bedside to give there last good buys. My Brother-in-law threatened the Doctor about just pulling the plug. I know my brother-in-law saved my life.
I worked as a paramedic for 30+ years, retired now. Early in my career I had a patient who was having a heart attack. Suddenly he went into cardiac arrest in front of me and lost consciousness. I started emergency care and after several minutes was able to get his heart started. When we got to the hospital he started waking up. When I asked him what he remembered he described the exact medical procedures I was performing on him while unconscious. He said he was standing over me. Only time this happened in my career. I think about this event every day. Interesting to see many others have experienced similar events.
Is he pro or con
Every out of the body experience that talks about looking from above so clearly amazes me. Like how if my eyes are closed I could have that type of view instead of just listening to everything unless the eyes are open and should just see what was looked at 💆
@@my_name_is_nat thanks for your comment. I agree how can you see especially if your heart is stopped and are technically clinically dead. Too many people have reported similar events. Makes me wonder 😊
My brother was hit on the head with a bottle at a concert. He fell forward shattering his jaw. He said he floated above and saw blood coming out of his ear and the paramedics turning him over and starting CPR. HEe watched them start an I V and then thought about his wife who he was separated from. As soon as he thought about her, he was in her apartment where he had never before. He described what she was wearing, the apartment and what she was saying as she talked on the phone. He returned to his body very rapidly. He has no recollection after that as he was in a coma for 5 days
@@jillijane9793 Thank you for sharing your brother's experience--I thought it was fascinating as well as interesting and a bit different. I believe every word of it.
I interview Near Death Experiencers and have had two myself. Heaven is real.
Heaven is Real. But there is much more than just a NDE. A NDE is only a taste of the other side. This Realm is a mess because of the negative frequencies.
It is if that's how you believe the next place is going to be.
It can be anything you can imagine then believe.
@@garyphillips2408 not so sure, Pondering much. There is Free will and manifestation but there is so much there and in ways it is much like here but in a spirit way. Like Energy and its creation of matter.
And so is hell
@@wyomingpark You may be correct, perhaps there is a hell, but if so, then there would most likely be a heaven. Not convinced of either at this point in time, however, I am absolutely convinced there is something "out there" because of the experiences my wife and I have had (three of them to be precise) that were definitely and unquestionably paranormal. Believe what you like.
I had a near death experience eight years ago. While sitting in a dark dining room talking to my wife, who was laying in her bed about ten feet away, who incidentally was dying from severe PAD, I started getting the symptoms of a heart attack. I have had two previous heart attacks and knew the sensations. I checked my blood pressure and there was none. Slightly panicked, I stood up to tell my wife that I didn’t have a pulse. When I stood up, I just turned off. When I came to, I was lying flat on my back alongside of the dining room table. I had no clue as to what had just happened or where I was. All I could see was an extremely beautiful glow on the underside of the dining room table that consumed my attention. I was astonished on how incredible the intricacy of the woodgrain looked; it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen in my life. (It was dark in the room, and I shouldn’t have been able to see anything under the table.) As my consciousness started to come back, I could faintly hear my wife in the background screaming my name while on the phone to 911. As I came to, I felt really good, better than I had ever felt before; I told my wife that I was okay and to cancel 911. I got up and sat back at the table, still completely overwhelmed with the beauty that I had seen under the table. It took several minutes for the incredible sensations of wellbeing to wear off and my consciousness to fully come back. We think my heart stopped, then the fall backwards landing flat on my back must have started my heart again. We talked about my amazing experience for some time that night. I don’t know what caused me to experience such an incredible hallucination and sensations of wellbeing. Possibly, some kind of brain chemistry was going on, but it was more vivid in that moment that anything that I have ever experience in normal life. Less than a year later, my wife of thirty-four years died in the ICU while I was holding her hand. I hope she experienced the sensations and wellbeing that I had; she was the love of my life…
Thank you for sharing your story, I am sorry for your loss. I hope you are reunited one day ❤
Always a doubter in the crowd
I recently lost my fiancé of 16 yrs. He was only 45. I am so sorry for your loss. 😢
Maybe you’re near death experience event happened so that you would have less grief knowing your wife was going to a beautiful place and maybe you also share with her so she would not be afraid🙏🙏❤️
Sorry to hear of your wife's passing but you maybe went through your nde so as you could know that there is a life beyond this one for certain and your wife has gone on much further than u did I encountered the holy spirit in April 2010 11yrs later I knew exactly why so take comfort God bless xx
I had a NDE 45 years ago. I was electrocuted. The dying part was terrifying, and I was in panic mode. But then, I came out of my body in a split second, and everything was calm and peaceful. I felt that I was some kind of energy, and I was pure mind. Then I saw my body and my first thought was: I think I'm dead. But I realized right away that my sense of awareness was still with me, I'm still me, I'm still here. Somehow, I'm still alive. I was thinking and perceiving like I normally do. Then I had a sense of being accepted just as I am. Then I sensed an unconditional love that was unlike anything I have ever experienced. My senses were far beyond the human senses. I knew instinctively who I was encountering. The Source, the Divine, God, or whatever someone chooses to call this. Not one iota of doubt in my mind. Everything became extremely sensory, and I was sensing everything instead of seeing or hearing. It seemed as if this stuff was going by me at the speed of light. I was perfectly relaxed, and I was completely at peace. The last thing I experienced before returning to my body was what I call the Oneness. Sort of like the oneness of the universe or the oneness of everything. Somehow, someway, I just knew that everything was one. I returned to my body right after this. I recovered, and I'm still here to relate my experience.
I was left with more questions than answers. But some of the questions have been revealed over time. If I could describe the meaning of my NDE in a few sentences it would be: Don't worry. Everything will be alright. You will be alright. We aren't promised a rose garden in our Earthly lives, but my instinct tells me the overwhelming majority of us will be alright in the afterlife. There will be many new adventures to explore and many new horizons to see. So just relax and live your human lives as best as you can, and don't worry.
I believe you ! But what would you say to those perennial sceptics, who would try and tell you that you only "imagined" that you saw your own physical body. You confabulated it in your mind (later as a defence mechanism) and then built it into coherent experience etc etc.
@@tim59ism Perhaps the skeptics energy or vibrational resonance as yet has not experienced a 'knowing'. One that has a knowing.. there is really not much you can say to convince one not ready.
Thank you for sharing. Being accepted just as i am brought tears. Forgiving oneself and loving self just aa i am is not easy. Our precious Mother Earth that sustains us ..soil, water, air, trees and wild life needs our help. All is One as you said. Peace, Health, Love and Joy to you.
Great description of how I experienced it - I'm still me, I'm awareness, pure mind - exactly. Loved your reference to oneness "Ye are all the fruits of one tree and the leaves of one branch" Baha'i Writings.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
I had a near death experience at age 5 when I almost drowned. It was the most beautiful experience I have ever had and it shaped my life. I became fascinated with the mystery of death and have been very spiritual my entire life, considering myself a seeker of truth. I spent 40 years as a hospice nurse where I often shared my near death experience with my patients and their families. I wrote a book entitled "The Miracle of Hospice" and at age 70 I continue to embrace the privilege of being alive at such a critical time on our planet. I have always had a strong sense of purpose in my life which I contribute to my near death experience. Loved the video but only half listened to Martin's lecture as I was preoccupied writing this. Excited to learn Raymond Moody has a new book. Cathy Truehart
Thank you for your contribution, not only to this but including to life generally and those who are nearing the end of theirs. 🙏
My son just died .
@@tommygunner321 if you didn't learn, you come back with a blank slate until your soul does.
When u had the nde drowning I had an nde drowning nearly to safe a woman who was drowning when I left my body time stopped n a feeling of so much luv n peace n heavenly things I was standing above the water watching myself drowning with the woman but time stopped n I was on the bank two angels appeard n said u have to cum with us then I came bak down from heaven n undrownd myself pulled mysel n the woman out n away from drowning
Cathy, have you ever seen hospice patients speaking with unseen people in their room in the days prior to their passing?
My mum was in hospital and a doctor accidentally gave her a morphine overdose. She went unconscious although I don't know if she was clinically dead but she said during those moments she floated above her body and could see and hear everything that was going on. She told a nurse later on what exactly was being said by everyone in the room and the nurse was shocked because she recalled it all correctly even though she was not conscious.
We currently believe that the unconscious cannot hear, but we could be wrong under certain circumstances. Floating above could easily be a hallucination. Not saying this is what happened, but it is a more conventional explanation.
My great-uncle had almost exactly the same experience. But he was in a coma for days, and he heard the doctor trying to convince his wife to pull the plug on life-support. Literally the first thing he did when he woke up was march to that doctor's office and punch him in the face without explanation. (then he explained the whole thing to the cops while under arrest, and no charges were filed)
@@WisdomThumbs that's real? 😳🧐🥺You are lying I think sorry I am not native speaker. Is this real? Make a video with this Chanel or some other? Idk.
@@Dai_Abdurrahman Not lying. It's surprisingly common for people who go into comas to be fully aware of everything around them, and even around corners and throughout a building. Sleep paralysis and Near Death Experiences spread out someone's awareness the same way. Veridical NDE is what you want to read up on.
I've had an out of body and near death experiences. Allergic to anesthesia... full blown cardiac arrest at 34 years old.
Changed my existence and its still difficult to be on this earthly plane. I have no fear and know that I have a greater sensitivity.
Not religious but most definitely spiritual.
Can you describe it
Please can you describe
I am so afraid of death and long to know my parents and husband etc are ok and still exist
Thank you
@@kimberlywhittenburg476 Fear of the unknown. There are answers however, found in the Bible. And it has evidence to explain why it is true in this particular reality. Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth
@@kimberlywhittenburg476 Hi Kimberly, My wife passed June 1st.
two days after the funeral I was sitting at the counter in my kitchen.
I was air dropping pictures from my wife’s phone to my daughters computer. The right side of my face, within seconds, became very warm.
Right at that moment a gust of air hit me in the face. It was as if someone blew into my face standing very close.
I felt at that moment she was leaving but would be occasionally returning and always be aware of me, her children and grandchildren.
We had been married 40 years. I was wanting badly to know if she was ok. The passing was very traumatic for me. She seemed relaxed. I was resuscitating her for two hours. It was cancer that had metastasized into her lungs.
I do know they are in a beautiful place that is filled with love.
I saw her in a vision only for a brief moment but in HD.
She was young, excited and full of love. I can’t wait to see her again.
I’m 58 and could be here for many years. I would much rather be with her. Hang in there, I’m in the higher perspective, that the emotions and feelings I’m having come from the pure seed of love for her. ✨💛✨
@@mikeltaylor1307 there is a greater spiritual reality,when we pass,this existence fades,like a dream.
Fischer seems to finally state his thesis around 45:00 minutes - 58:00, and then takes questions (where I stopped, with a few skipped portions along the way). Essentially he argues that NDEs are real in the sense of the sincerity of the experiences recounted by the experiencers. He suggests the experiences in general do provide some insight into the dying process which can at least be comforting, in general, to those who might fear dying. He stops there and otherwise argues the evidence doesn't establish "supernaturalism" or some non-brain based explanation for the experiences. His is what he calls a "charitable interpretation" - a naturalistic one that acknowledges the experiences are real but nevertheless brain-based. He doesn't want to dismiss the experiences entirely and suggests there is value to them in giving people a sense of hope about what to expect during the dying process. This doesn't seem particularly new to me, but it fails in any event along with other materialistic explanations because it ignores a few basic features of NDEs that defy a brain-based explanation: the out-of-body experience in which subjects observe occurrences from vantage points outside their body, the "ultra-reality" of the experiences (i.e. how can a dying brain that shows no measurable brain activity, let alone normal measurable brain activity, produce experiences that are "more real" than ordinary experiences?), or shared NDE, among other things. While he seems to have studied the experiences in some detail, his approach is interesting only from a critical academic or philosophical perspective and doesn't shed much if any insight on the nature or meaning of the experiences themselves, which really comes best from the actual experiencers. So, if you're looking to understand what people experience during NDEs, one really needs to listen to a lot of accounts not only for the range of experiences but because some experiencers are more articulate than others in evaluating and describing what they experienced. Fischer's "new interpretation" might get him a published paper or be an interesting post-doctoral lecture, but that's about as far as it goes.
Thank you for the summary, I couldnt stand another minute of this boring God-awful lecture. From a Materialists perspective this is perhaps an alright lecture to listen too, to affirm your already had beliefs, but It falls short of actually explaining the phenomena in any meaningful scientific way, as you stated he cannot account for OBEs or why NDEs are so similar across every culture, even if people interpret them differently
I made it to 22 minutes before I died!!!
@@corvette9675 bro I literally got to 6 mins and went in comments lol
@@fernthurman5172 double Ditto i need my wasted time back
I think before anyone can legitimately determine what's real or not real we have to define what "real" even means. Is reality even real, or is it a "sense of reality" produced by our imagination? What is the difference between dreaming and doing, between Heaven and Hell, between Life and Death? What does the adversarial system we're in have to do with all of it? If this is all in our imagination, then why are we even in an adversarial system when we could imagine anything we desire? Fischer had no valid opinion of his own, because he has nothing to base it on. Nobody listens to the "voice of no experience" and deep down he knows that, which could explain the complete lack of enthusiasm. He's looking at something inside from the outside and can't see what he can't see :)
I was pulseless for 15 minutes on the operating table. It happened 6 years ago and nobody can convince me that what I experienced was not real. All I can say is there is nothing to fear in death.
Do you believe Jesus is God?
@@TruckTruck-gu9vs the Jewish, unoriginal and unhistorical character? Well, "son of god" and "son of man" are common Jewish phrases.
The title would be like, "Skeptic spends over an hour trying to debunk things while misplacing words from an inexperienced mindset"
Could you tell us more? I keep my reply notifications off. But, feel free to email me at my Gmail. Seth.a.yellin then the at with Gmail then... Yeah... TH-cam filters out some things.
If you don't mind telling randome strangers on the internet your experience, we'd love to hear it!
Before my grandad died he was having a conversation with someone in the room. He called him Uncle Jack. They asked questions and I guess he got answers. They talked often. When he died I found out my grandad had a Uncle jack that died over 40 years ago. My Granddad didn't know I was in the room. Gives me chills to this day.
Same as my Dad when he was in his last few days was talking to his brothers who were deceased. Some dismiss it as delirious but a person with a open mind take it different.
Thats a better story, now I do not need to watch this dreadful video, I have heard stories like this before, love these accounts. Thank you for sharing, Cheers, Jon
@@johnnieo66 Cheers to you too, Jon.
Iam a hospice nurse. This is very common. I just love it. This make dying easier for the patient. Some says, wait , let me get my purse.
what was the convo?
He hasn't had an NDE. He's like a food critic who has read the menu without tasting any of the dishes.
Everyone has to read the menu before tasting any of the dishes. I think you mean judges the menu without trying any of the dishes
Being convinced of something does not cement it as fact .
@@reservemyname749 The act of judging is implied by my use of the term 'critic'.
@@pooddescrewch8718 Something already being a 'fact' is convincing.
@@LikeItDeep Whats a fact ?
We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Death is nothing to fear.❤
I agree.
Ndb is part of a system that includes reincarnation
@@grahamennis51 This was explained in the Hindu Vedas 1000's of years ago.
Absolutely.♥️🎇
@@grahamennis51 no
There's a case in which a blind person had an out-of-body experience when he died and was able to see everything in the room including his own body. This person was blind from birth. Of course, he continued to be blind after he was revived.
Very interesting, and you may not know that blind and not blind people have been proven to be taught to see without their eyes, by creating peak brainwave frequencies that creates a vortex/tunnel, korotkov proved these were golden ratio brainwave frequencies, the genius Dan winter explains this better than anyone, I can pull up links if you need or can't find
@@ejRecording Nonsense. There's no comparison of experiences between a person who's alive and clinically dead.
@@alexchristopher221 I get what you're saying, but my point must've went right over your head
@@ejRecording I watched the video, thanks, but I understand enough to reason that we can't compare a person who's being taught to see without their eyes, by creating peak brainwave frequencies, with a clinically dead person with a flat E.E.G: no detectable brainwave activity in the cerebral or frontal cortex. Of course, there might be a little sputtering of neurons electrically in the lower brain at best but without any use. A clinically dead person cannot perform a cognitive function (i.e., memory or recall that might occur) without electrical brainwave activity in the cerebral cortex. Thus, at this point in death, it isn't a functioning brain that's doing the thinking and perceiving for a person having an NDE. What happens to this person occurs in a trans-physical state.
@@alexchristopher221 I never compared the two, although if you keep studying Dan winter you will understand how the organs or perception can gain full coherence in life to elevate our NDE's and ultimately death. look at the tibetan monks who have been documented to turn into rainbows at death. this is all the same physics of golden ratio which our whole body and the universe is built on because it is the most sacred geometry. We take our bubble of charge that is our aura which is measurable with us at death, korotkov also did the studies on dead bodies showing that peaceful deaths related to energy leaving the body completely vs tragic deaths resulted in energy coming back to the body (scattered incoherently, or unable to distribute efficiently) over three days after death.
An LSD trip is nothing like an NDE. That's a ridiculous thing to suggest.
Eckhart Tolle said the same. Iv taken LSD many times I doubt very much if the two are similar. Different processes
A DMT trip is more similar. Not that I recommend anyone take DMT.
@@EbNorth Any particular reason you can share why you would not recommend such?
@@xiomimesis sure. And it's per individual.
If someone gave you a great book to read, or told you to watch some great movie.
Would you,, you Chris,, just fast forward to see the ending? Would you skip pages and just read the last chapter? I wouldn't.
DMT is like that. Knowledge that isn't earned. It's taken, Almost cheating. Like putting bicep implants into your biceps. Sure, it looks all legit. But is it? Did you earn that muscle?
Or we can not take DMT and step by step awaken. Sure, it's not always instant like smoking/drink DMT from external forces.
I say, let's awaken the forces within us to see what we don't normally see, The world as it really is. We don't need DMT. We just need our own logic, and sound discernment.
God Bless.
@@EbNorth beautifully explained. Thank you
It is like someone who has never visited Paris, tries to convince us that he knows more about Paris than others who have been there.
Have you had an NDE??
Please come around 9 - I have a headache a
I mean please don’t come around 9
Agreed Arifin. Anyone can do this for themselves, lie still during the day, not later when you may be sleepy, you have to lie still during the day for long enough to fool the brain into thinking this is sleep, the body then emits the chemicals that lock our muscles and from there you can achieve separation. As with anything it's practice, but it's the most interesting journey a person can embark upon.
@@GaryMcKinnonUFO What? Care to elaborate this more?
this is stunningly boring. I tried jumping ahead but found exactly the same detached reading from a paper without saying much at all.Why are you up there?
It is a good demonstration of how NOT to do things. There's something of value in everything :)
@Aspect617 I came here seeking some sort of insight and information on the subject, but found this guy's presentation _painfully_ unfocused, confused, and ultimately uninformative.
@PressPause 2Play Smug, condescending and dismissive - tell your _ego_ to LEVEL DOWN. i, too, found this lecture boring and uninformative. Much more interesting (and coherent) work is being done on the subject at the International Association for Near-Death Studies and UNC.
@Aspect617 I have a grad degree in accounting & didn't think there could be more boring lectures than the ones I've endured. I was wrong. I care little about entertainment, and I have a great deal of patience ~ yet still agree with Laura Kelly: this is a stunningly boring lecture. Someone who must read off their previously composed paper to deliver a lecture should probably stick to writing.
@PressPause 2Play Lol .. dense thinkers? Intelligent thinkers would prefer to read the paper themselves & gain "perspective" that way, rather than waste time listening to someone stumbling to deliver the info in lecture form. I'm speaking as one of the *TNS* , (of course, of that you probably know nothing). I suppose that's why you are here making excuses for what is a non-enlightening time sink, and trying to pass it off as informative/unique. I hope you're wise enough to follow your own advice: Keep calm and carry on child. But be certain time tell your intellect to LEVEL UP.
This is a near-bored-to-death experience.
Bravo!, take a bow my friend!
𝗟𝗠𝗕𝗢!! 😂
🤣
@@kat7777 that's funny, but true
Lol
Why don't they document a lot more people in hospice, or the elderly that start seeing the people around them that no one else can see. I'm actually surprised he didn't talk about this.
An example of an "intellectual" trying to explain something beyond their skill set.
He has the right to call out the lies
He must be insane. He has no knowledge or experience yet makes fiat statements. Some ppl do actually go to hell. No doubt he will ba among them.
Cc? C?k c 4 c cr 4
OMGosh, we need him.
chryslertc81010, eternal agony? You seem to have a heartless unforgiving God.
I'm going to have an NDE watching this.
Hahahaha!😂
:D
Corvus Luna....Thank you! LOL, LOL, LOL....And more LOL....
A negative one.
😅🤣
I truly believe that you’ll get much more out of reading the comment section then listening to this guy go on and on!!!
@Grace Bressi I just wanted to say Grace that if you listen to a lot of Near Death Experience accounts, the education you get is really well worth the time. You also see that they all have many types of things in common, regardless of where in the world the person is who is having the experience. This individual who has a new interpretation is really trying to talk to and convince himself more than anyone else. I’m completely confident, that people are having real out of body, soul type, experiences. I look forward to the time when I go on my New Death Experience!!! God bless you...+James
@Grace Bressi You have a great day to and I agree completely!!! Life and Death and what comes after IS my life...Fr.James
I agree he is boring. I haven't had a near death experience, but for those who have I believe and I do believe in God and my Lord Jesus and heaven,I think I'm in hell on this earth I want to be in heaven.I stopped to listen to this ,boring maybe others who are MDs might like this,but he just reads off his notes.sorry can't believe anything thing he says
You're right. I have to turn him off. Almost falling asleep.
After one minute I just came straight to the comments, and yes; learned lots
We've come a long way in our willingness to be open about and share our NDE experiences. 50 yrs ago when my mom had an NDE, it was not something that was discussed for fear of ridicule or worse. I am grateful for all these brave souls that have come forward, we live in interesting times.
Please may I ask did your mother share with you what she experienced
Yes we certainly have. For instance we know that these experiences are just expressions of the mind receiving electrical impulses that fire of neurons and make people imagine they are traveling outside their body. For some reason people seem to confuse them with spirituality or religion. We should be beyond that sort of stone age thinking as a society - but there are a large group set on holding humanity back for some reason.
Note, my NDE was nothing less than Angelic. The first question I had was what is the true church of Christ? I googled it and the first thing that popped up was The Gospel of Thomas. Ever since then I can not stop reading it. Every Sunday I read it, and every time I read it I get more insight into Father, his Son and the Holy Ghost.
@@robertforsythe3280 Look up the actual cause if NDE. It will help you prevent cons and scams like religion.
@@VestigialHead You're talking about the chemical process that occurs when someone dies, but that doesn't explain how BLIND PEOPLE can SEE THEMSELVES and THE REST OF THE ROOM when they're dead. It doesn't explain how DOCTORS (you know, the most arrogant and "skeptic" people in the world) have been impressed by how BLIND PEOPLE could detail everything they did to them as if they were SEEING it.
You got a paper for that? No.
Is there anything a materialist will not attempt to reduce to his lowly material existence? Apparently, not.
Michael Fenemore - 👍 Very well said!!!
No. It's their faith based religion. They will accept Materialist explanations on blind faith with zero evidence yet set an impossibility high bar for any evidence of the spiritual.
There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of anecdotal experiences and what actually goes on in the brain, but this professor was definitely very condescending and rude.
Exactly, couldnt have said it better.
@@rainbowinthedark453 freemason
It's very difficult to talk about experience you didn't have .
So true!
It is not difficult is impossible.
@@antoniodomene I was born into a religion where I was expected to testify to others of an implied "truth" that took me years to realize was implausible and absurd. I had no first hand or second hand account but only believed others who were believers or books with faulty accounts or superstition. So, yes Tony, it is possible. Yet it is much less credible of actual witnessing or experiencing the event!
@@robertbarney8635 Words of wisdom..
Empathy is how you talk about Other's experience.
I am a doctor and I fully believe in existence after death. I am not religious and never have been. The accounts (assuming at least some of them are true) seem very convincing and in some cases are corroborated by other people involved (ex: the medical personnel involved in a resuscitation being told exactly what happened in a resuscitation). Science can explain a lot of things but this isn’t one of those things. Based on the available evidence, it seems very plausible to assume that there is a consciousness that exists after clinical death (at least for some period of time), but to say there is heaven, hell or god is difficult to prove (beyond simple faith or belief). I’ve never had an NDE and I hope I don’t have one before my time to go. I hope this helps someone!
No way to prove what you're about to read but as far as heaven or hell; research into Life between lives hypnosis seems to indicate that you will go, at least temporarily where your individual beliefs take you. If one carries much guilt they're likely to experience some form of what they consider hell to be.
It always tickles me when an intelligent good person like yourself is almost begrudging of sharing your thoughts as if you'll be mocked by fellow doctors and scientists. You know in your heart what's what and don't worry. Yes you do help people with that message but then sort of take it away by what you say in the last paragraph. I hope you continue to share a positive message but it's too easy to mock or ignore faith and it's importance. I have gone through some awful things in life and it's my faith that's kept me sane. I'm private in my belief but will help anyone if they need it. God bless
Many Dr's/surgeons have patients who should've died in them but didn't, science couldn't answer the questions of how a person who had cancer and it was healed...with OUT the scientific poisons of chemo or radiation. We are connected to a God Source energy that science will never answer.
So being a doc, you would understand that cells have a code.. which means, there's a creator
@@lt.ripley1590 Scientifically speaking, he's correct. It takes nothing away from your faith, or mine. This speaker has so many holes in his theory, & all the theories. I don't think it's meant to be explained, certainly not by today's science. Much Love
"you are loved there is nothing to fear"
This is how they debrief you after you just undergone life
Let me get this right - a man who has never had a Near Death Experience talks with authority about it? Did I miss anything?
He's still on-point with my experience.
You idiot there's no such thing
@@mick1gallagher because you said so! Random internet stranger bringing nothing to the table told them! hahahaha
Yes he has a book for sale. Discount code below.
@@zarroth lol.what a wierdo
This guys in for a BIG shock. We exist after death
@ David FE - I did not have a NDE, but when I had what people call ADC, or post-mortem communication, I immediately knew that souls are immortal... And I consider that contact as one of the most important events in my life.
🙄 how do u know ? Been dead ?
oh dear! I guess I had better listen to this guy. I mainly watched the video preceeding this with the 5 people sharing their near death experiences
@WhenYouKnowYouKnow lol yeah ok 🙄
@@bristonknight9315 i have had this also and its real but i also understand how hard it must be for those who havent experienced such to believe
I had a shared death experience. I was not the person dying yet I saw the light gradually come in. My father was standing in my backyard. A being made of light spoke to me telepathically and I back. I was pulled into a portion of a life review. All this in the fullness of the afternoon, in the fullness of the day. I was not asleep. I do not do drugs. I was not drinking. I don’t even know how it happened. I cannot explain it...but it was real. It happened and I have no doubt these NDEs are real.
Omg I just wrote the same comment
I was laying in bed totally awake sober my body was exhausted from the dsy but my mind was awake
I saw a waterfall in the midst of a jungle and I swear I could reach out and put my hand on the clear blue glistening water but I couldn't cuz it was just too far still. I felt people around me watching yet I could still see the furniture in my bedroom and feel the comfort of my bed and my husband breathing besides me. I could smell the jungle and warmness of the sun but I could also smell my oil diffusers and hear my fan blowing. Such an awesome experience.
wow! I have never had a shared nde and am just learning about them. My nde happened 65 years ago
You should have been the presenter!
Don't Let this man who did not have the Same experiences we have mislead us to the Truth of God and Jesus...
I believe you. I was nearly murdered in my sleep, but the sounds of my NDE woke me up. I tried to scream/move, but my spirit was separating from my body and there was nothing I could do to stop it.
1:25 NDEs take place when most subjects are practically, medically, and scientifically dead. The term "near death" is used just because they made it back. 😁
You have to be alive to experience an NDE . Clearly there is more to the act of dying than we currently know . We say these people are " Near Dead " because they survived . No one survives death in the corporeal sense
@David James Yep , its the pregame warmup
You we all get indoctrinated young to believe in heaven . Its problematic because in an NDE people see pretty much what they expect generally . In effect we have been groomed . I wonder what an NDE would be like if we could keep mythos away from a person ? How different the xperience would be and what is universal . You would have isolate someone to do this though because everyone has a culture and all cultures have myths about life and death .
When academia confronts anything non-materialistic, it shows how truly dead it really is…yawn. He got his paper published in time to meet his requirement. He can go back to sleep now.
Kinda like a Dawkins wannabe?
But for some reason they looooooove communism
I had one in 1989. If you go haven't had one,you can't speak on this
How do you measure with a ruler what can’t be seen. Even the Greeks believed there is a soul
@@concernedcitizen780 ask a true academic, they have an answer.
Is it possible to be so boring about the most interesting subject on earth???
Exactly!!
The book he is talking about was proved a fake by another surgeon working at the same hospital. He had meningitis but not viral meningitis and no one at the time remembering him saying “God help me”.
@@paulinecoburn181 Viral meningitis or bacterial? It doesn't really matter. Either type of meningitis has the same similar, serious threats. As for another surgeon "disproving" his story--what a bunch of bunk. Personal experience supercedes anyone's opinion. Only he...and God....knows what really happened to him on a metaphysical level. NOT "some other surgeon". Sounds like sour grapes.
Margie Tucker Absolutely. Its like somebody recounting a dream they had, then someone calling it a fake because they slept in the same room. Lol.
@@MB-mq1sf Exactly! Great analogy!
By far and away the vast majority of those who experienced a positive NDE say that their fear of death completely disappeared.
It does.
In meditation I had an out of body experience. First reaction on being back in my body was what was that? Next was the thought, that were me. Followed by this(my body) isn't me. Then the conclusive thought, I will go on. Lost my fear of death from that moment, so I can appreciate NDE having the same effect.
That's true. My fear of death was completely removed after being clinically dead 20 years ago.
I have experienced an NDE in 2012 and yes my fear of death is gone now, but the thought of suffocating or being burnt etc.. is still fearful. Knowing that this body is not me and that we continue, brings comfort and trust in God's plan for me. Total change in personality after my NDE and even they (people) say I have a different look in my eyes. My NDE was very positive.
I never had a NDE and at some point in my life I lost my religion and my fear of death because I no longer believe in some vindictive god sitting up in heaven waiting to punish those who fall short of the glory of God.
I had not had a near death experience, however I felt a strong force push me back . As I was in 10th grade the school bus would drop me off west bound on the right side of the road , the bus driver looked , gave me a nod it's was ok to cross, and I myself looked both ways, as I was about in the double yellow lines, a strong force like a huge hand pushed me back , & after that pressure of being pushed back , a truck went by me appeared to be a Chevy truck . Ever sense I felt Jesus's presence push me back , or one of my Guardian Angles , I was a believer in Christ instantly. Just writing my experience is giving me chills , but in a very good way .. I am loved , & also survived 2 horrible accidents . Thank you for this presentation, it was great listening to.
If all you felt was a force, why assume it was Jesus and not Odin or some other god?
@@pchemist There is one creator, God is His name in my life. He is a TRINITY, called the BLESSED TRINITY, OF GOD. He is made up of the FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT). When we make the sign of the cross, and each time we do it on ourselves, we are acknowledging that God is the ONE, made up of three Divine persons in one God, as fact. The sign of the cross goes like this. (With the middle fingers of your right hand touch your forehead while saying)" In the name of the Father, (then touching your stomach area while saying) and of the Son, (and touching your right shoulder and while saying) of the Holy Ghost (spirit), Amen.
Error in typing : then touch your left shoulder and say "and of the Holy Ghost "and then touch your right shoulder and say" Amen. "
3 brushes with disaster? At least one of the three was trying to smite you for fun.
@@bernitacenteno1326 There are zero creators. Also, god is not a name. Considering you're talking about the trinity and such, your god's name is like YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah. Also, saying "three divine persons in one god" is no different than saying you're a polytheist with three gods; you're just being semantically disingenuous. Also also, pantomiming the execution device of one of your three gods is kind of weird.
To each his own... I choose to believe in God and life after death. ❤
This whole lecture is boring. It is hard to explain another's experience. I'll take the experience over this lecture. I love the love and happiness of NDE's it heals and changes lives, PROVEN.
LSD will give you one of these if you meditate deeply enough.
@@charliemorris2338 proven false. Scientifically. Sorry.
May Child and how its possible to report image and. Detailed conversation else where? Litle détail!
@@taurusgirl2238 Well,brain died 2 minutes,ok maybe 10 after death. I read about people's who was dead 30 minutes, Hours,and day's. And they reported Angels, Spirit's, Families and Evidence that they was there and watched what happened in that room, hospital,or House. 1 doctor was dead 3 days and told about the another world. Also a Corean Girl,who went to hell and Paint everything what she saw there. I know that Buddhist dont believe in Jesus,and she was with Jesus all the time. And also A Doctor who was dead 30 minutes,under water. She saw everything what happened,and described sooo good.We must admit that Science is no longer science. It's a tool for the Atheism who rule over the earth. Hell is real. Heaven is real. And also with dead brain without blood and electricity inside of him,the illusions are impossible.
@@jackdaniels5489 you are absolutely right
I have talked with two people, who had totally different personalities and philosophies. Both had similar NDE’s. They both described being in the presence of our creator and the total love they felt. Neither one wanted to come back and both said they had no fear of death. And because of them, I dont either. I am now 76
That's awesome and don't let anyone tell u otherwise.. Look forward to it, the greatest adventure they say... And a chance to be with all ur life friends and family once more..
Mr. Fisher seems to take a delicate approach to avoid outright dismissal of the phenomenon, and then equates it to likely effects of brain generated drug influences. What doesn't get resolved is, at a minimum, two things I can think of right off the bat. The first is that the NDE experience often includes "someone" telling the NDE'er to "go back" often followed by protestation and then a sudden return to consciousness where they feel groggy or in pain etc. after having just been in bliss. How could the effects of your brain drugs slam to a full stop? How can a drugged state produce a narrative ("go back") that appears over and over? How are the narrative threads of an NDE experience the result of a chemical cocktail when user of something like Ayahuasca have a massively larger range of narrative experiences but the NDE experience operates in a very narrow narrative? The second thing that never seems to happen during an NDE is that it fades out at the end with no narrative about a return to the body. In the case where someone was clinically dead for over 20 minutes, body temperature reduced, in a surgical setting with no measurable brain activity, How is it possible that this internal supply of drugs never runs out? The NDE doesn't end with a fade out no matter how long the brain activity has been suspended. The drug supply seems inexhaustible compared to something like adrenalin which serves an evolutionary function. From a strictly scientific perspective an NDE serves no evolutionary benefit so why is it utter bliss infused with information when it could just as easily be pain, a simple humming noise, flashing lights, gasping desperation, etc.? Here is a bonus issue I take with his explanations: Some NDEs occur during an accident or heart attack, others occur under heavy anesthesia. The NDE stories are totally similar but if its brain chemical induced, why don't the experiences differ between the one group who has no anesthesia and the other that is sedated into unconsciousness? How do these brain chemicals completely override the anesthesia?
Brilliantly stated. You articulated issues I couldn't even formulate, although I knew this guy was missing several factors.
Yes! That’s what’s being bothering me . Thanks
I'm not my heart, I'm not my elbow, hence I'm not my brain.
Beautiful
You only 'think' you are not your heart, or your elbow, or your brain. You are actually 'NOT' any of those things, and 'ARE' any of those things simultaneously. You are a version of Schrödinger's Cat.
There are parts of you though that you cannot continue to exist without .
I've had an O.B.E. (In Fort Rucker, AL. 2002) and everything was like you explained, but I saw no tunnel. I just hovered over my body and looked around the pitch-black room and could still see, perfectly. I mentally marked a few objects on-top of a cabinet that I'd never looked on-top of. When I wanted to, I just thought about coming back into my body and then turned on my light and saw the objects on-top. Ever since, my intelligence and abilities grew, in many ways. Hope I see that lighted tunnel. I was only 20yrs and now I'm almost 38.
Do you believe in Jesus?
Gee wiz! I am almost 100! My actual age is 68.
That was mine ,dark all around me except in front looking down at the body , fear then set in and in the blink of a eye i was back.
It is said energy is neither created nor destroyed, it transforms.
I recall my energy leaving the energy cell and transform, then join the energy field that creates all, touching all. A peace like no other.
When the police officer checked my pulse, his energy pulled my energy through a worm hole, placing my energy in a time and place it no longer fits in.
I informed the officer to let me pass.
The worm hole and the state of coma in ICU is when all the visions described here was experienced. In the wormhole the views appeared like glimpses through open doors.
I remember all the images viewed to this day, seven years later.
Many of the glimpses have come to fruition.
I can not recall any dreams I have had after leaving ICU to present.
There was no theology figures.
I remember every second of the ambush that was called an accident.
When my energy entered the energy field, the burden i had been carrying on my shoulders felt like the weight of the universe was lifted. The feeling of the freedom can not be described to those who have never known.
@@bassinc3039 in short, dying is nothing to be scared of? May l ask, what ambush?
I’m glad I read some of the comments, so I didn’t waste my time. I had an NDE more than 30 years ago, and Dr Alexander’s book resonated very much with me, I saw my body below me, I saw my bones disintegrate to dust and I travelled to a place beyond this reality, a place that words cannot describe. And when I came back, I KNEW that I had been to true reality, and I knew that this reality wasn’t “home”. I had no thought of my family or longing for home when I was there, but when I came back I had a huge longing to get back there. This fool thinks he’s clever. He’s not. Parroting the words of others very unconvincingly, and showing his limited knowledge, but still thinking his information is important enough to create a video just shows how big his head is and nothing else
Wow, that is awesome. How long were you gone if ur bones disintegrated to dust?.
Ann Fisher obviously my bones didn’t turn to dust otherwise I wouldn’t have had a body to come back to, but that’s what I saw, I’m not sure how long I was there for, as time had no meaning or relevance
That is so awesome. Many Southern Christian artists sing a song about heaven that says,"This world is not my home; I'm just a-passing through. My treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue. The angels beckon me from heaven's open door, and I can't feel at home in this world any more."
you are too funny oh how I need to laugh
@@mattsmith1849 i get it
I think the things that fascinate me, are how OBEs and NDEs both point to no longer being constrained by the physical body as far as the senses go. People blind from birth do not dream visually. If the physical eyes are destroyed or never developed, but those people have vision when out of body, then it is the physical eyes that are the only thing preventing sight. Also people in NDEs describe it as more colorful, more real than real life. Things are more crisp and less distorted, which points to the limitations of human eyes while in body. Our eyes can only perceive certain parts of the spectrum, but if we are no longer in body, they no longer have the limitations of the human eyes. There are several that also talk about not being constrained by vision in the normal 180 field of vision. Hearing is also something that seems more intense, music more beautiful, sounds more different than hearing inside and through the human body and ears, of being able to hear so much more, like our own vibrations. This would explain how it makes it hard for people to put into words how different it is, and how it is so much more real than our reality. I think this really points to our self literally leaving the physical body rather than this existing soley in our minds.
Estimated 20 Million Near Death Experiencers by Last President of International Association of Near Death Experiences around 2017 and this guy who never had an NDE reports on NDEs ! This guy never researched Anita Moorjani- most medically studied NDEr who wrote book “Dying To Be Me” A+++ Read 👍
And also Dr michael Newton's books Jouney of souls and Destiny of souls Life between lives and Wisdom of Souls.
well said. forgot to mention Anita's book. Good for you!
He never spoke to any NDErs as part of his research either. Unbelievable that this guy even has a job. 😏
"This guy" - funny how the imperative of common politeness tends to wane among the spiritually enlightened.
Taped at WSU, this guy has to be the least captivating professor in the world 🤦🏼♀️ Staring down, reading from papers non-stop makes for quite the boring lecture BUT where he really lost me was at his suggestion that giving birth can give be pleasurable 🙄🙈 Buh-Bye credibility 😂👋
Pathetic professor!
Giving birth “can be ‘pleasurable?’” Dear God in heaven. Only a man could make such a ridiculous statement. A man who has never witnessed human childbirth. Way too bad he can’t have the experience of popping a 10-pounder out of his genitalia.
@@Chudcom
Maybe in his next life he will be born a woman and have 10 children.
This was an academic lecture at a university. I never thought it would be uploaded by my university to its youtube channel, but then again it has almost got 2 million views! So someone must have been captivated! I'll tell you what is pathetic: you folks who apparently have nothing better to do than spew venom. What happened to all of the love and spirituality that are supposed to come from NDEs??
Mary: what is pathetic is the ignorance and venom here. Why don't you try love?
There was an elderly woman who told me she had an experience. She said the only word in the english language to even attempt to describe the feeling was “tranquility”.
Scientists just want so badly to comprehend and map out things that they should sometimes just leave alone - and I am a science major and heavy, long-time NDE researcher
Felicity I agree …what are your conclusions
Evidently Mr. Fischer's interpretation is "More Real", than Mr. Alexander's..... All I can say is, his delivery, content and conclusions, are weak. He should be embarrassed for taking up so much air time to deliver almost nothing of substance.
He needs a job as a janitor.
"He should be embarrassed for taking up so much air time to deliver almost nothing of substance." .....couldn't have said it better. Much ado about nothing.
he's a
very boring guy..
They gave him millions for it, he has to say something.
@@GJ-dj4jx "They gave him millions for it" - where did you hear _that_ ?
You can't interpret anything until you have experienced it.
Totally agree!
sure you can. the question is how well. and the answer is sometimes not well at all. lol
@@bornofsource9419 oh no no no no I totally agree! No ifs, no buts...
That's why people study these cases of nde's as so many people who come back from thier passing that is physical they have died and non religious people having these experiences and becoming spiritual after the nde, of so many have the same negative and positive nde's.
agreed
Nonsense! There is no new interpretations of NDEs. What you mean by "new interpretation" is denial.
A new interpretation is fortunately provided by the University of Virginia's Department of Perceptual Studies
@@krutarthajmera5846 I love Bruce Greysons Work, he's like one of the best NDE researchers, and more so he is not a materialist
I’ve had a NDE , it was very real. I remember exactly though it happened a long time ago. There is a God.
This was already explained in the Hindu Vedas 1000's of years ago. There is nothing new about this. That some are only just discovering this does not make it new.
Bruce Greyson's work is good, but not his analysis of NDEs. That is, he has described and catalogued them well, but I do not think his analytical rigor is up to the standards that I know we would all accept as valid, scientifically and logically. But thanks for your interest.
This guy reminds me of the professor in the 1st Harry Potter book who didn't realize he had died and kept returning each day to class, giving the same monotonous lecture from the the same stack of old notes...😴👻
As a matter of course, I wouldn't trust those who've 'returned' and spun a series of profitable book deals out of their experience, complete with stories of meeting Jesus, angels and flying unicorns with rainbows coming out of their butts. Of more interest to me are private adult individuals who are not looking for profit or publicity and simply talk about their experience in low-key interviews.
I agree.
Writing books about NDE raises public awarness often money is not the motive!! Also the conciousness system will work with your beliefs to ease the transition and that results in religious experience! There are plenty of low key NDE experiencers! You colud start with just following theb threads!
Why can't people make a profit , as if most people are so rich they can spend their time writing
🙋♀️, I love that you were given a grant for all your hard work. Your study seems to have proven that we learn nothing without having the actual *experience*. See you on the other side 😉.
:))))
like how surprised are they gunna be hahahaha
Lol
Nice one, Marianne :) I love the people that can tell you how to do something they've never done!!!
And now we're Walking..... Lol
Prof, Get back to us after you have personal experience.
Shirley Acuff People who depend on experience for knowledge will never posses knowledge. At best, they will make accurate guesses. You actually need smart people to compare the accounts with each other and with known facts and then determine what compossible interpretations exist.
Solitary, narcissistic mystics who insist on having their experiences validated are of 0 value by themselves.
@@somexp12 that will get you nowhere. Its simple just accept that you know nothing about anything. Then build the desire for a guru so he can guide you ! Check out sadhguru on youtube.
Neos Son and that guru will know something how? It isn’t like there wasn’t a first guru who needed to teach all the others. If this person only has his/her mystical experiences to go off of, that isn’t trustworthy. These experiences need to be examined in aggregate to discern any truth from them.
@@somexp12 I agree. Objective, non-experiential viewpoints have their merit, too.
@@somexp12 They have been examined, it is concluded that majority of people who had a nde were dead long enough for the brain to not be able to produce any activity, therefore something greater was obviously at play. Also theres the world of quantum physics, basically all that is exists is within an intelligent field of energy.
I was there when my brother took his last breath. He kept looking around the room with the most peaceful look on his face. Nobody can tell me there weren't angels there to take him home.
I’m a nurse and I’ve seen people dying laying in bed looking all around the ceiling doing the same thing and you can’t tell me there wasn’t someone there to help them home!!!
@@Cthomas5678 That's so comforting to hear 🙏💖
False
I met a woman who.told me an amazing story! She was sick when she was a little girl & she had to get lots of surgeries & eventually lost her hearing. 1 day she had to do a heart or throat surgery or something - she was still a little girl maybe 7 or 10 - & she went into cardiac arrest. She said she had an out of body experience & not only could she see everything that was happening in the room but she could HEAR everything! Just amazing!
Obviously she survived the surgery, & got her hearing back eventually too. She was an old lady when she told me the story.❤
Is NDE en experience on a quantum level
Why so many negative comments? Whether you ultimately agree with his interpretation or not, he still had a lot of wonderful things to say. In some way we can all draw some sort of hope and inspiration from NDE’s.
“Reasonably believes” lol can you not see the bias in that remark? I’m not mad by any means but let’s be real. If someone’s heart and brain function ceases yet they continue to have an experience outside the realm of their imagination you have to wonder.
He seems very polite, I mean how many people are willing to stay and answer questions. I appreciate that. ☺️
I can see why. I had no trouble watching it, but not all good teachers are good presenters for everyone, and peoples' learning styles differ widely in type and degree, and I can see how some would not find this something they could sit through; whatever the topic and whatever the enthusiasm and knowledge of the presenter! Did you notice he appeared quite different in answering questions, compared to his prepared 'speach', and many of those who could not sit attentively through the 'speach', would be quite enthralled by the Q+A style!
People want their preferred beliefs about NDEs to go unchallenged for fear they will lose faith in their views on the subject . Nothing short of coddling their assertions can be tolerated . These people have accepted as true that something of divine origin had happened to them and they draw a great sense of security from that conviction . All this guy represents to them is the shredding of their specialness .
@@tobiasdontmatter1868 It clearly means there is more to learn only . No conclussion can be drawn with only an impression to work with . Conviction is no substitute for knowledge no matter how strongly one feels .
"An NDE is better thought of as a syndrome..." annnnnnnndddd goodbye.
No kidding. It either happened or it didn't. Syndrome?
@@dawnwinkler8905 Exactly. A misguide premise put forth by someone painfully confused on the subject.
When I had one, the things that I thought of first, was that leaving the body was like I had just emerged from being stuck in a block of clay.
I was unaware of how much pain I was actually in while in the body, but had become used to it.
At the same moment, the reality of there being no time was surprising and comfortable, together.
Could we with ink the ocean fill
And were the skies of parchment made
Were every stalk on earth a quill
And every man a scribe by trade
To write the love of God above
Would drain the ocean dry
Nor could the scroll contain the whole
Though stretched from sky to sky
I love the way you described it! Like being in a block of clay, yet became used to it! Yep that about sums it up perfectly!!!!
Beautiful poem
@@luckymeyer1014 that is actually the hymn, " The Love Of God ".
Those words were found written on the wall of a prison cell.
Beautiful poem.
Nice use of trimeter and tetra meter in your poem
This video is AMAZING. I didn’t think it was possible to bore people so consistently and at such a profound level. My god...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A waste of time to watch?
@@DennisRay99 I have bookmarked this lecture for the next time I struggle with insomnia!
Well Lawsey!
@@caroljoy839 lol!!!
Bring 1 proof he'll ask for 10
Bring 10 he'll ask for 100
Bring 100 he'll ask for 1000.
You can only find what you are looking for.
NOOO don't ask questions and disagree with the fearful Christians
You can also blind yourself to see only what you want to see .
@@pooddescrewch8718 Allow the heart to guide you to the truth, you can see that both sides can easily make a compelling case, our news media offers a good example of that with the now famous quote mostly peaceful demonstraighters When a person is conditioned to watch the news and not think twice about what you were told is the truth or not you simply assume that they are truthful. What we should all be worried about now is how long have they been doing this to us. I have never before in 61 years ever seen so many dishonest people as the democrats that now hold office. Dying is as much a part of life as being born, most of us have lived many lives, we just can't seem to get it right, patients, understanding , mercy , forgiveness, and the most important one is unconditional love, trust me after 6 trips back i know them by heart
@@dr.robertsmith1971 Never . Emotion is not a suitable guide .
@@dr.robertsmith1971 Keep your politics .
Everyone is a skeptic until it happens to them.
mare652/ That's what it will take for me. Not that I don't believe them.
I have had so many visitations in my dreams from loved ones, friends and family of my own and friends and family of friends of mine who have asked me to deliver certain messages and they always validate personal information that only their loved ones know. It has been quite interesting to say the least! Every single time it's amazing to see their reactions when I deliver the message. I am shown personal items or certain parts of homes from years ago that both parties would be privy to. And I'm shown what they look like in their younger years as well and when I describe their appearance and shown photos...even I get the chills when I see for myself that that is them! I have been shown and told many things on 'the other side" and I have been reunited with my Mom (who passed December 2nd, 2005 of bladder/brain cancer) and I had the most beautiful and loving experience that is almost impossible to describe with my Mom, Angels, and the most unconditional loving white light that I called God our Creator! The love that surrounded my spirit cannot be duplicated here on Earth or put into words. It's the most intense love you'll ever know. I did not want to come back each time I visit Heaven/Home/The other side! I have met an Aunt and Grandmother (both came to me and asked me to forgive my biological Father who was very abusive to me and my Mom and siblings. It was horrible to say the least, but it was shown that his true spirit is nothing like he is on Earth. Anyhow... there is so much more, but I cannot take up too much space and time. I hope I helped someone who is wondering if there truly is somewhere else after this life. The answer is a definite yes and it's beyond amazing and magnificent!!!!
Ohhhh. I could read it ALL. Visions are blessings and that you have a pure and genuine heart and soul.
What you said reminds me of when I had a grandpa and close friend of my dad who came to me in my dream, well the the dream of my dads friend who he said baby sat me and loved me , he came in a dream, and it went like this, I was in a home with older gentleman’s and we were looking for my dads friend, so we all looked around and they told me to look, so we go looking and we find that my dads friend had died, so everyone was shocked the person we are looking for upstairs was dead, so I was really shocked and scared, then as confused as I was and finally thought to myself where am I? And who are these people, my dads friend who was dead in the dream flys towards me or atleast his face, and yells his name, and I got more scared and woke up! , as I woke really scared, I ran into my parents room and say his name but all messed up kinda, and my dad says I know who that is he recently pass and he loved u he haven’t seen u since u were a baby. I mean I don’t remember the guy at all but when my dad told me that I really couldn’t think back to remember him, but I was glad he seen me for the last time I guess? What do you think? If you can reply thanks!
Strangely enough, I had never really gotten over the death of my best friend Eric. A few years after he had passed I had a dream, except....I knew I was dreaming, as I knew it wasn't real.
I was at my childhood home, and was staring, wondering how I was here. How could I be conscious knowing I was dreaming yet still in my old livingroom?
A knock at the door. I answered it, and there stood Eric, smiling. I instantly wept, hugging him. All I felt was his love for me. How could this be? I backed up, and he stepped through the door. Standing inside the foyer.
I said- "This isn't real, how are you here?, I'm dreaming". He replied - "This is the only way I could come see you silly. I only have a minute, and need to tell you that I'm OK. Everything is gonna be ok."
I started crying, and begged him, "Please don't leave me, please don't go."
Eric then started to fade saying " I love you, and I'm OK" Crying profusely I begged more, "please don't go".
He fully dissipated, and my eyes opened. My wife next to me, and in our bed.
I have never had a dream like that again.
Thanks so much! I thought that it was only me who was feeling totally bored so early on in this 'talk'. I've finally discovered that if I see people reading from a prepared speech, then they should just upload the document and save me the agony of having to listen to someone who can't speak without boring the pants off me.
Yes! It would have been so much quicker.
If you have ever given a lecture, talk yourself then you would understand how easy it is to digress from the script. He explained this. Try it yourself before you criticise.
only boring people get bored, baby :)
Everything is not about you
Those who can’t, teach.
...did you read all your poem?? One is for sure...you have no idea what NDE really is...
...and those that can't teach, teach gym.
Those that say “who can’t, teach” can’t!
@@stevet6531 if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball 🏐
Well doc, speak again when you have your own.
Having had an NDE when I was 19 years old, I was elevated very high above my physical body to a height that was a hundred feet high, possibly even a thousand feet high or more.
Looking down at myself and seeing how small I was compared to the larger things nearby (cars, trees, houses, etc) I had the impression that I was a very tiny part of this world. As tiny as a grain of sand as compared to a larger desert, yet still a very definite part of that desert.
I recall observing then and realizing that I was just a tiny part of planet Earth which is merely a tiny part of the universe. Like an electron is to an atom, and an atom is when linked with other atoms to form a much larger object.
As this was happening, I recall also realizing that I wasn’t alone. I wasn’t able to see anyone, but I knew someone was there and I had a very clear understanding that this being was telling me I was OK, I was going back to my body, and that everything would be fine. Then I was back in my body laying on my back looking up toward the sky and realizing that something special had just happened to me. I had no pain or fear, just a feeling of general peace and contentment.
I had the impression that something was letting me know that I like all humans, was a child of God, that God loved me and was protecting me from my own stupidity and immaturity, like the stupidity which had caused me to injure myself to near death. I had the impression that an angel, although not visible, was near and would remain with me to help.
Then I was fully in my body again in both mind and Spirt, and I had fully returned to my normal worldly state - physically, emotionally, and intellectually, my condition was as it had been before the revelation that had just occurred. I was in a normal state of awareness then, in a hospital being taken care of by medical staff. Although I had grown up being instructed as a Christian, I wasn’t a “practicing Christian” at that point “walking with God in my life” as I am today.
This event was a defining moment in my life which I never forgot and I have never discussed with anyone. In fact this post is the only time I’ve revealed it anywhere. Many years later, when finally doing the calculus and coming to the conclusion that God is real and Jesus Christ IS my Lord and Savior, I realized that my NDE was a sign from above provided to help me know of God’s existence and to accept the gift of salvation through Jesus. Now it’s very easy to describe my experience as a dream, because indeed it was somewhat dreamlike, but when looking back and also considering other signs and revelations that have occurred during my life, I know it was very real. The rest of you, including the non-believer speaking in this video, will know the truth of God’s existence one day too. Please, for your sake, go to someplace quiet, meditate and pray. Continue doing this for days and days. Pick up a Bible and start reading the New Testament. Pray on what you’ve read asking God to reveal His truth to your heart. Blessings of His peace and grace to you all!!
What happened to make you have a NDE?
@@sarahlefevre9144 thanks for your question, but for privacy, that part will be mum. All true though. Cheers!
Come on John Martin Fischer, you can do better than droning on so much. Put some fire in your presentation. I practically fell asleep only just after 2 minutes. If this is how you present all your lectures, all your students will have a cure for insomnia right there!
Hahaha! Gosh I did not know I had such a quirky sense of humour either lol! Thanks for liking. :)
Exactly I was about to comment the same .boring droning .this subject deserved a better more passionate narrator
From a background of 30 years lecturing at grad school, I wrote a long critique of John Fischer’s halting, rambling presentation, together with mild criticism of his style of reading from print. Then I canceled my comment, not wanting to be unfair.
I join your comments, however, that this fascinating subject deserves a better presentation. Watch Dr. Alexander’s enthusiastic videos - which deal with many of the questions that Fischer raises but never attends to. That’s the way I’d like to see both sides of this topic treated.
it`s because he does`nt believe a word of it, can tell by his tone.
I am finding it quite interesting myself.
Im glad I believe and don't have to depend on him to bring me comfort...
The comfort you receive is not something you can choose to accept it is something you receive from Jesus. God gave him to us as our savior and the only way we can enter heaven being the sinful beings we are while we’re here on earth.
What you’re relying on is gullibility and lack of evidence.
"Man does not live by the intellect alone..."
the mind can only believe or not believe,
but the heart Knows...
& it is threatening to the "ruling class"
for us to know, because "You shall KNOW
the Truth and the Truth will make you free."
a hint of heaven makes one thirsty for something
more real than this world - makes us want that
special something that endures forever.
"Abandon the quest to be perfect.
Take up the quest to experience perfection."
- Prem Rawat ."
There is nothing wrong with desires and imaginings and hoping. But personally, I appreciate all the intellectual work, analysis, study, and science that went into his lecture. In fact, I am very grateful for it.
Auntie Patricia,
Yes true- the Luciferians who rule us all using- lies, deceit, to repress, control, threaten, torture, slave, and slaughter- who ever they wish to do such to on this earth (they also have two legs, two arms).
Absolutly!!
I had a nde a year ago this month June. I could see my presents was ripped out of my body. I think pineal gland was activated because I could see everything so clearly. I was in complete darkness but not afraid. I thought about where I was and I asked myself if I was dead. I had such a wonderful feeling of total peace. After what seemed like a couple of minutes I started to see the brightest white mist bodys coming out of the black and they stayed about 5 feet away from me. Directly behind me was a being who said to me do you know who I am? I said not sure are you Yeshua? without answering me in a voice I knew it was. I asked what was happening in this place and an angel told me I was being purified and it would be just a little while longer. I noticed about 8 feet in front of me a door and the brightest white light was coming through around the framed edges. I asked if I could go through that door. I was asked if that was what I wanted to do. Part of me wanted to but I asked if I was supposed to be here, did I do what I was supposed to do before I went in. I was told no. I asked if I could go back and the figure behind me put in my head that I need to help people with problems understanding who we are and help heal their hearts with love and compassion. I remember I thought ok and the next time I opened my eyes I was awake and aware I was in a hospital. My daughter and son in law were there and kind of surprised I was alive. They had been told to say their goodbyes and were just waiting and spending the last remaining time with me. I felt fine. I had stopped breathing at my home over a week before this day. I was very sick with parainfluenza and a deadly UTI and I had septis. I told my daughter I wanted to go home. She said that hospice would be set up and then I would be moved home. I told the kids and my doctors I didn't need the breathing machine I was on bypap and removed it. I told them that I wanted to walk out of there in three days without oxygen or other care, that I was going home and could take care of my self no need for hospice. Everyone was shocked by my immediate change from being unconscious to just sitting up and Removing the machine that had been breathing for me and was like I had never been lifeless and passed away. My doctor told my family it was nothing short of a miracle. 3 days later I was released and have been just fine since that day I set up and told them I was fine.
Are you real? I am not native speaker 🙏 sorry
Your experience sounds like Anita Moorjani's -- Dying to be me. Good book ❤️
My partner has had 2 NDEs. She's now a psychic medium.
For me, the best evidence for NDEs is rising out of the body and looking back at it, then being able to recount conversations and events in that location, then to go into another location and recount events there too!
Eben Alexander didn't have that part in his experience, he went straight into another realm when he went into a coma from his bacterial meningitis.
I've heard of blind people seeing and deaf people hearing - very intriguing!
How about people who come back with extra skills and knowledge?
How about shared death experiences (SDEs) and how about all the strange things that happen around us when a loved one dies!!!
All coincidences?
Scientists need to prove everything and rightly so, but they can still only detect 4% of the universe so let's wish them luck with NDEs!!!
its very interesting also with all the similarities in the NDEs, but not exactly the same, but there tends to be some similarites. the out of body experience, the feeling of things being realer than reality, the feeling of not wanting to leave, of being home, some kind of entity or entities sometimes just a voice that tells the person that they need to go back, or gives them a choice to stay or go back
Brilliant. Here! Here! 🥂
PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO BE MEDIUMS ARE EITHER DELUSIONAL OR LIARS. NDE's are hallucinations. There's no heaven, no hell, no afterlife; it's all fear-of-death nonsense.
@@melvynobrien6193 you're a great one to get stuck with at a party!!! 😂🤣
@@melvynobrien6193 You obviously have no knowledge or research data on this subject, preferring to just put comments thought up from pure ignorance. If only you could understand how ridiculous your hallucination comment is. Not accepted by what is now estimated 60 million NDE’rs all experiencing the same thing.
Can you imagine listening to this guy whilst driving!
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I fell asleep during his speech, seriously!🙄🥱😴😴😴
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hahah
Yeah he might have NDE
What about Doctor Ebben Alexander a neurological surgeon who died and was just like most doctors patting their patients on the back saying it was all in the mind, his colleagues could not explain his NDE. Perhaps read his book and let me know if his story can be explained away. Cheers from a New Zealanders
I read his book and it is amazing.A wonderful read.
Thanks for the Tip ! & God Bless You !
@@doreenlorenzo2501 Thanks for the Tip & God Bless You !
@@davidtharp7767 your welcome💋😘
@@miekeborkent1875 You and Doreen Lorenzo Have given me the Gumption to Read Dr Ebben Alexander's Book and Study up on NDE's or OBE's
I've not had an NDE but I have had telepathic experiences, one when my daughter had a serious accident and the other prior to the twin towers being hit. I have also experienced a profound rapid healing and these incidents do leave you with a certainty that there is so much beyond our conscious awareness.
Everyone is telepathic when it comes to parents and their children.
I think I have also had them a few times in sleep? "Astral travel(ling)"?
Profound rapid healing. Can you share? Love hearing.
@keep humble Horses communicate telepathically, as do many animals. Humans can too, if they have heightened awareness. Don't be such a narrow-minded sourpuss.
These were 3 separate incidents. 1. My daughter had a riding accident and despite being 100 miles away I knew something was wrong. 2. Three days before the twin towers were hit I thought someone behind me was speaking with a message that people would bring about a catastrophy. There was no one behind me.
I had a nde on August 3, 2010 it was a very hot day I was working outside and my mind is telling me I need to go lay down.I walked into my 5th wheel and was walking in my hallway . And my mind says what the hell. Next thing I know It felt like I was laying in a fetal position and it was so dark. Then an angel came to me telepathically and asked me if I knew what just happened . And my mind telepathically answers back . Yes I have died am I have done what I am sopposed to do . All of a sudden I began to rise when I stop I am looking at my self standing in the hallway . Colors where so vivid and the feeling I was having where so unbeilvable . When I was looking at my self it was me but at a different time in my life . My mind says looking good . Then my angel came back tellaphatically and asked me if I wanted to meet my maker and my mind stayed yes and I began to float again this time for a while longer. And I stopped and I am looking all around it was like if you could see electricity in slow motion with the Fourth of July going off in a bunch of these capsule my mind is telling me it’s the Holy Spirit and I have a feeling of over
Aboundance of love . Every thing was a whiteish gray color and when I looked up to me right I seen a lighting bolt and to my left I seen two lightning bolt staggered alittle bit and they started to move towards each other and my mine is telling my brain is going to connect with number ones brain . Then I was standing in my hallway with a bad headacke and sweating . I have always believed in god but now I know for sure there is a god that loves us more then anyone can amigine that expieriance was the best thing that had ever happened to me in my life the only thing that will top that will be the day I die . God bless every one and have a great day be kind to one another and help out people that are less fortunate then u are . I believe the key to heaven is to believe in the father ,son, and the Holy Spirit .
Hi Ed
Interesting experience you had.
I just wanted to ask if you had recorded your experience on the NDERF website. If you hadnt it would be a good read.
I hope you will go to the website and share your story.
Thanks
Doug
It didn't "seem" as if I was floating above my body, I was. I watched my own BP go to 0/0 as the nurse screamed at me not to close my eyes. I watched the anesthesiologist run in and shoot me up with something to bring me back. I was giving birth to my daughter. I not only could see my body below me as well as the nurse, I had 360 degree knowledge and "view" of the entire room from every angle. Like being everywhere at once. I very clearly made a choice to stay and felt like I was sucked through a straw back into my body. I could have left. It wasn't any long drawn out choice. Happened extremely fast yet seemed slow. But my decision was made without hesitation. I wasn't leaving my daughter if I had a choice. It was not a Cesarian but a vaginal birth. 36 hours of grueling labor. The epidural caused my BP to plummet on top of exhaustion.
Hallucinations.
@@melvynobrien6193 whatever. I was there. You were not. My BP was 0/0 and I was given epinephrine. That is in my medical records. Not a hallucination. What do you think happens when your BP goes to 0/0 and why do you think the nurse screamed at me to not close my eyes and yell for the anesthesiologist? Why the panic as my BP plummeted? Why is it so important to you to negate another's experience?
@@dawnwinkler8905 I think Mel has some issues
@@johnlowdon3024 agreed.
16:00 - Seems increasingly clear the term 'supernatural' needs to be unpacked. It's a pre-scientific word that doesn't have a useful meaning (aside from suggesting 100% literal read) and I worry that it further muddles the clarity of thought on topics like these.
I (and my co-author) are careful to give a clear definition of this term. In my OUP books (2016) and (2019) I define it.
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I almost completely agree with you. But I found out that we are holograms saturated within a holodeck, which makes us all one mind. This holodeck is what people call God. WE are IT. We cannot be divided from IT. So if there is something supernatural, then IT is us.
I think you must be a programmer?
*I was pronounced DOA (Dead On Arrival) at a medical center in 1973... No further attempt was made to resuscitate me... More than half an hour passed, and then my Heart started to beat again.... During that half hour, I rediscovered the DIFFERENCE, between the human body, and "LIFE The Real Self", The LIGHT of MAN.... I found this universe including the human body, is just a 'STORY', displayed as a 'Holographic Simulation', in a Display register, of "The Processing System of LIFE" !*
I had an nde at the end of 2001. It was brief and real. I enjoy hearing other’s experiences. I hadn’t heard of nde’s at the time I had mine. It took me by surprise.
This topic can lead to ghosts and visits from relatives that have passed before us. I didn't believe in ghosts until I saw one at work and so did a lot of other people there. There may not be a heaven but there is another realm.
Please share if you’re comfortable with it, but do not feel pressured to if not : )
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I was Only 12 when I had Mine & 1ST I knew of some sort of name for it was Out of Body Experience which rung a bell for me since my awareness intantly rose up out of my body on the Operating table & rotated side for side 180 degrees. I watched several hrs of operation thru my awareness up near the ceiling of the OR. Because of the dark green Shield that had Up at my Chest to I couldn't view either of the Surgery Sites it I woke Up. This was 1960 & they kept me not feeling the pain & mostly knocked out in my real body with Demerol & Something Else they could add Small additional doses of thru Side Port in Main IV Line. From the Time I realized the up with back to Ceiling presence as separate from my real body I felt no pain that I experienced in my "Awareness" but could see my body below start to quiver and hear it moan & the moan let them know I was becoming close to consciousness & they would redose the Demerol 1st & then the Other drug right behind the Demerol. I knew my Situation was not by any stretch of imagination Normal at all; But I was not at all Freaked Out or Afraid a bit. When the Dr who went to Church with Me & was a Good Friend of my parents told the Nurse they were done in the Or & were wonna put me in a Room on the 2nd floor I saw myself moan & quiver & they gave me 2 more add on doses thru the Side Port & then got help called to move me to a regular gurney & I fasted than my AWARENESS rose up out of my Real Body Zoomed down with an at the same time 180 degree side for side rotation In a Milli-Second & that was the Next time I felt any Pain or discomfort at all. I never talked about it; because once I was mostly awake which was 3 days post-op after they stopped the Pain Drip ( it was a Very traumatic accident with a tremendous gash up the Shinbone that almost Bled me to death Plus multiple broken Bones ). By then; I realized how Un-Normal it Sounded & Decided it was better kept to myself. As Opposed to yours being brief; Mine was over 4 hrs. I was Hyper Alert in my Awareness part & very much Calm & unafraid. Calmer & Less Afraid than I had ever Been in my life even though the Surgery in my normal self would have been unpleasant to see done on anyone; much less myself. I feel like it was my Soul Watching me.
It was New Years Eve 2002. I drank so much I still don’t know how I got home. I remember going into my bedroom and falling face first on my bed. Shoes and coat still on. Somewhere before morning I must have suffocated. I instantly found myself in another realm which turned out to be so very grand.
If you take a penny and look at the back, then turn it sideways looking from the left side across to the right, that’s very similar to where I stood. Gods throne looks a lot like the Lincoln Memorial building. Whoever designed it must have been in heaven before.
I looked to my left and I was 12 inches from the first pillar. It was so perfectly polished. Everything is. I looked up and saw God sitting on His throne and it was surrounded by a rainbow that was colored more like a worlitzer music box than a rainbow. There was a smaller throne to His right hand side, but it was empty. I looked to my right and there was a man on his knees in prayer. I looked up at God and back over to the man and he was gone.
All of a sudden the attention was on me. And telepathically I was told to go back. There was something I needed to see and learn from.
I noticed how spotless everything was. It wasn’t hot and it wasn’t cold. There was no wind. It was mostly dark except for the light coming from God and His throne.
I woke up really hung over and super impressed because I’ve never had a dream so vivid and enrapturing.
I didn’t discover nde’s for another year. Then it all came back and I thought WOW there IS a God.
This guy is going to enjoy his life review! Eyes Wide Open 🤣
My husband passed away on 1-12-20. He was at End Stage COPD. He died of CO2 build up. What was most interesting was he had No difficulty breathing the 2 day’s before passing. CO2 build up was a Peaceful, Painless, Beautiful Death. He was calling out to his Mother the week before Passing. He also told me he was having dream’s within dream’s. I am still pondering what he could have meant by the dream’s. One thing more, when I got up and left the bedside there was a mist that followed at my side, there was a screen door in the front room where I went. I never saw the mist again.
Janie Langley My condolence ma’am. I would like to comment on the mist that you saw. I also saw a mist enter the house at the edge of the ceiling when my mom whom has since passed away came home from a memorial service for a man whom she worked as a private duty nurse for . They had formed a strong bond before he had passed and I witnessed her grieving for him before he passed as though they had formed a spiritual connection because he was a rich man and unfortunately his greedy wife whom they had not had a close relationship within their marriage because she tricked him into marriage by getting pregnant.The mist that I witnessed appeared right after my mother returned back to the house after the service and it appeared that his spirit followed her home because he knew she truly loved him as a fellow human being. My mother was a deeply spiritually strong and gifted woman and apparently he felt that she truly cared for him. I am also a spiritual gifted person and that evening I went downstairs to get a cool drink of water out of the refrigerator when I noticed the microwave light up and the image of a Caucasian man top portion of his body like a photograph headshot appeared on the glass of the microwave I didn’t get frightened and began telling his spirit that he see’s where his friend lives and I understood he and my mother had a strong bond formed but I told him very boldly that he could not hang around her house and had to leave. I never knew that I possessed such strength and confidence but I have since discovered that I had inherited spiritual gifts from both sides of my family. My Father’s mother was the most spiritually beautiful woman that I have to this very day encountered. She spoke to me about many Spiritual Gifts that she inherited because she knew that I was going to follow a Life of spiritual gifts also. My mother was also an extremely Beautifully Gifted woman whom had a rare personality whom most people who met her fell in Love with her warm spirit and she would always encourage people to love one another as your brother and sister. They both my Mother and Grandmother was truly the best that a person could ever dream to have. And I am proud to walk in their footsteps because they led by example. In closing I would just like to say that your husband is one of you Angels now his spirit is looking out for you and you can talk with him anytime that you like. Your intuition and telepathy will let you know that you have connected. We human beings have many gifts that we aren’t aware of. Until we tap into them...Peace and Blessings to you and Yours
The Real Alice Snow I am moved by your Sincere Special Understanding. I have seen my husbands Spirit a few times now, I feel him all the time. My Paternal Grandmother and my Maternal Grandfather both had Second Sight. I am Blessed and I know You are also. Thank You, so much for your Loving Words and Thought, they are my Gift from Spirit Today.
@@TheRealAliceSnow That "mist" was definitely your Mom's friend and guess what...I bet they are besties on the other side or soul mates even! Who knows but they obviously had a spiritual connection for sure and his spirit didn't want to leave her! Very interesting. Sorry to hear your Mom has crossed over but with your gifts you know she is in safe and sacred hands and is happy as happy can be!!!!!
@@janielangley5673 Your very welcome Ma'am. When I saw that you had seen the mist that is part of our total being is when I knew that I had to let you know that you were not alone in your discovery. Stay safe and keep your spirits up. We need to encourage one another with all that we as a Planet have gone through in 2020.And we must continue these ways of higher Vibrationas a Unit working together for our Planets Greater Good and to Evolve Spiritually....PEACE
@@GoodSpiritBadBoy Thank you .And I agree that they were meant to cross paths on this Earth and had such a strong spiritual connection that it is a strong possibility that they have met up on the other side....PEACE
There's nothing particularly "new" about granting that NDEs are real, but then saying they're real in the way dreams or hallucinations are real, that is, _as experiences._ Few if any critics were ever claiming they weren't real at least on the level of subjective experience, so this "new interpretation" seems hardly more than a semantic gesture.
Some additional considerations:
He makes it clear that he's a physicalist, which I don't necessarily have an issue with. What I do have an issue with is his repeated conflating of science with scientific materialism (physicalism). Science is simply the empirical study of nature. As such, it is entirely metaphysically neutral. Nature is whatever it is and does whatever it does regardless of what people believe about it. Scientific materialism, on the other hand, is a metaphysical belief that matter, and/or the laws that govern it, is primary, and that consciousness emerges from sufficiently complex combinations of this completely inert stuff. The issue in this context isn't whether or not that's correct, but that its truth or untruth is entirely irrelevant to the practice of science.
31:16 _"And the fact that we don't_ yet _have an adequate physical explanation in terms of biochemistry of course does not entail that there are no prospects for such an explanation in the future."_
This is just promissory materialism: the idea that just because we haven't so far come up with a physicalist explanation for consciousness doesn't mean we never will. He goes on to analogize the search for a physicalist basis of consciousness with the search for a cure for pancreatic cancer. But these are completely different categories: on the one hand, a disease of a physical system in which the disease is itself is also physical, and the potential cure will likely be physical, versus the premise of a physical system giving rise to something fundamentally nonphysical (consciousness). The idea that any amount or combination of complex neuronal activity might somehow produce subjectivity strikes me as just so much hand-waving. It seems every bit as much like magical thinking as the theistic God-of-the-gaps explanations.
52:34 _"And the second prong is to keep in mind what Epicurus emphasized: we will not be there to suffer_ after _we have died. So, dying itself need not be something we fear, and then the status of_ being _dead need not be something we fear, 'cause we're not gonna be there at all; we will not be there to suffer."_
This is a huge assumption, and in my opinion, one based on wishful thinking. I think this is one of the reasons physicalism is so attractive to its believers, as it removes the prospect of having to face some unknown experience after death. If there's just a blinking out of existence once and for all, there's nothing to fear. As long as one really believes this deep down, I can see how comforting it must be. But I think many who claim to hold this view of oblivion at death still have some anxiety.
To wit: there's a 17 minute documentary short here on TH-cam called *Being 97* that I recommend. It follows an elderly philosophy professor who's nearing the end of his life, and who shares his thoughts and fears about this. He's written books about death and has always asserted that it's irrational to fear it, for exactly the reasons Fischer cites in the present talk. And yet, he can't figure out why he's still afraid of death despite his conviction that he shouldn't be. What's interesting is that it apparently never occurs to him to question his assumption that death is the end. It seems that among highly educated intellectuals, and especially academics, it's actually taboo to even entertain this as a possibility. I find such cognitive blindspots utterly fascinating.
55:18 _"The NDE evidence together with plausible ancillary principles don't even come close to establishing either of supernaturalism's two central components: dualism about the mind, and the real existence of a domain outside our physical space."_
First of all, "supernaturalism," as he calls it, isn't necessarily dualistic. There are various consciousness-only ontologies that are nondual (i.e., they posit that there isn't actually any real matter or physical stuff, but only consciousness-based _experiences_ that are interpreted as material or physical), e.g., Idealism and Advaita Vedanta. Second, his use of the words "natural" and "supernatural" are circular, as they're predicated on an underlying physicalist assumption of what constitutes naturalism.
That said, I do agree that interpretations of NDEs as revealing something universally applicable are problematic and not at all well founded. I've read and heard countless NDE accounts, and what stands out most to me is how novel each one is. The popular assertion that there are numerous features shared by most (let alone all) NDEs is just not supported by the many user-submitted NDE accounts on the massive database of the NDERF site. There are quite a number of NDE accounts that don't include _any_ of the markers he references at the start of this talk, including traversing a tunnel towards a light, a life review, meeting deceased relatives, even being guided during the experience.
Note that I'm not suggesting that the lack of these "classic" elements makes the NDE somehow less valid or less powerful or transformative - not at all. I'm just pointing out how there are far more novel and personal elements than there are truly universal ones in the NDE literature, which should prompt caution about overinterpreting said literature as evidence (let alone proof) of a universal realm awaiting everyone at death. (Of course, the other problem with such an interpretation is that the NDEr hasn't truly died, in the sense of having passed point of no return.)
That said, what I think NDE literature is better evidence for is consciousness existing apart from the brain. Which brings me to another point:
After he mentions (at 13:20) the existence in the NDE literature of "many" instances of veridical perception - i.e., out-of-body perceptions that were verified by the medical personnel who were also present when the NDEr's EEG was flatlined - he never again addresses it when proposing (at 31:02) that _"a combination of_ [physical explanations] _acting additively or synergistically"_ might still explain NDEs specifically and consciousness generally. This was a glaring omission which suggested to me that he didn't want to address it because it counters his brain = consciousness bias.
At around 1:34:48 he addresses the fact that the start and end times of Eben Alexander's experience can't be established, and that his and others' NDEs could well be occurring in the seconds (or even milliseconds) when the brain is coming back online, rather than when the brain is offline. I agree with this reservation as well. But again, he presented this as if there weren't many accounts the timings of which have been corroborated via the aforementioned instances of veridical perception. And, again, we know he knows of these because he mentions them earlier in the talk.
1:27:16 _"There's a famous_ [story of a] _Buddhist monk_ [who] _reported a near-death experience in which the Buddha was in hell, and it was because he didn't accept Christian teachings and Jesus. And so the Buddhist monk who reported this converted to Christianity. But it was later debunked - the whole thing."_
Actually, it wasn't "debunked" so much as called into question - very justifiably - by a number of people (including Nancy Evans Bush, whom he mentions here). I agree that the account smacks of missionary tinkering, but saying something is "debunked" suggests something more definitive, such as the Alex Malarkey account he references twice, where the experiencer himself repudiated his earlier account.
1:45:20 Someone asks if there are examples of people from a given culture having an NDE with features associated with other cultures, e.g., Christians seeing Muhammed, or Japanese seeing a light and non-Japanese seeing a rock garden. I can't cite specific examples, but I know that I've heard more than a few of such cross-cultural NDEs. They aren't that rare (albeit NDEs themselves are, if not rare, certainly uncommon).
Could also be that that "Buddha" also had a few bad past lives, too, and that was that version and/or memories of his mind, from trauma, in those ones?
*/from those ones?
@@TheSapphireLeo reincarnation is a a LIE
The title would be like, "Skeptic spends over an hour trying to debunk things while misplacing words from an inexperienced mindset"
This lecture was so drawn out and tedious, I swear I started to see a tunnel with a bright light at the end of it.
(Cue rimshot and cymbal crash.)
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As a college Professor, I concur 😂
Is this guy really just reading a paper to the class? Ooo 😴
Could be worse ? He might be giving Best Man Speech at a Wedding you're attending ?
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YES - he should look up, look around at the audience - maybe he'll get some self insight
NDE's have changed my life. I have heard over 75% of spiritual awakenings are triggered by one simply listening to, watching, and/or reading about someone else's near death experience and this is what happened to me. I have researched thousands of them and could answer all of these questions with a breeze. He is incorrect in saying most people experiencing an NDE are religious prior to their NDE and come back even more religious as it is usually the exact opposite. I have heard more stories of people leaving the church after their NDE than the other way around. Many are even told during their NDE from either their "guide" or another being that we got religion wrong and have twisted and misinterpreted the teachings. They are told of the dogmas and judgements associated with how the church interprets what was meant to be more of a personal spiritual process. How the teachings were more about the spark of god within each of us and the importance of oneness as opposed to worshipping any one figure outside of ourselves. Many NDE experiencers who were very religious before-hand, come back more spiritual than religious. Also, it should be mentioned how 9 out of 10 who have an NDE come back with spiritual "gifts" such as dreaming about events prior to them happening (precognition), being able to heal others using simply their intention to do so (energy healers), being able to see shadow beings, orbs, and other paranormal entities (as if the veil is slightly lifted for them), and other forms of psychic phenomenon. Everyone should look into the FREE Foundation’s (led by former US astronaut, Dr. Edgar Mitchell) study on this if interested. Super interesting stuff. Losing the fear of death is life changing!
Ah, how true. Most religious people love their NOTION of God/religion ( ...if indeed you/they have never met Jesus) But, once you meet/know/love Him you will not only understand His words but you will love them too... Maybe you wont find in your local church the same love but, rest assured, there are and always have been, people that love Jesus Christ and follow Him to the end
@@TheCravenIsReal and some of us have had a supernatural experience with JESUS....and no I was not a Christian!! But I certainly am now! But I wouldn't call myself religious either...my relationship with Jesus is spiritual. It's not worldly. God Bless!!
If there is a treatise to hopelessness this is it. Just a confounding, winding road into doublespeak.
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Mmmmm.. I don't care to waste my time and explain ny experience because skeptics can never be convinced. I've even had dreams and visions about the events that would happen in the world which have happened years later. 30 yrs ago I had a dream all about the Covid-19 virus. You can't argue with these type of people. Poor poor man.
Yes because we are all heart ♥️ centered. We are embodiments of love ❤️
I had a dengue stage 3 and they said my heart monitor went flat. I didn't see light or anything or float over my body. But what I experienced vividly is that I was floating in the space and I was looking at earth. Crazy.
Wow... maybe that is how your spirit wanted to interpret the "space between here and the hereafter"... I know as an astronomy buff myself, nothing would prepare me to meet my maker like being suspended in the ethereal beauty of some gorgeous blue and red nebula with all the hot young blue stars lighting it up from within. Sometimes I get a very spiritual feeling just looking at Hubble or Keck photographs and I'm humbled to the point where my brain just says "Wow God... this is so amazing what you have made!"
How vivid was it?
Was it like a Dream?
Are you a believer of anything? If not, that could explain, you were shown something that you know exists to further make you think and question reality because you were shown something that the universe knows you know exists.
I had a really bad car accident in 1970.. The guy who hit me he was doing 80 mph the only thing I can remember is everything was in slow motion and I tried to swerve out of the way before the car hit it was like a was floating in air but that’s all ..I found myself in the middle ofthe road blood coming out of my mouth... And it’s been fifty years and I only remember floating...
If there was ever anything this close to a "Near Death Lecture" on TH-cam, I have yet to experience it.
About 3/4 of the way thru this presentation I saw a red light and I began floating towards it. It was the lecture hall's emergency exit sign. I found myself hovering over the students as I floated to a more interesting lecture.
Seriously, when this guy was wasn't reading directly from his notes he was masking anything that might be considered a personal opinion or stance with a neverending volly of qualifiers.....and he got a grant to "study" this ? Hummmm.
Kerry Craig lol so funny.
That's prob why he's indifferent.. I couldn't watch it, I couldn't listen to him sucking his teeth every 2 seconds. I think he was a little nervous tho too so idk
Until he dies... then he’s saying Jesus Christ is really real.....
-every individual who rejected the truth about Jesus and is in hell crying their hearts out...
Oh okay then
When he dies he’ll understand that Jesus is a egregore and a consciousness that’s totally unnecessary, unless he for some odd reason felt he needed to *believe in it* to live his life as a fearful & judgmental individual;
*_A life with a mind of victim mentality that would never take responsibility for his own actions, because he could always use Satan/God as an excuse and then repent & ask God(Satan) for his forgiveness, so that he could claim his long awaited ticket to his & his fellow ‘sinners’ VIP heaven where they would 🤣 at the people who was sent to hell._*
It’s ridiculous to me that Christians don’t get this, yet I’m capable of understanding and accepting Jesus to be a benevolent loving & caring egregore / consciousness.
An energetic current made by humans ~2000 years ago that has been kept alive from the energies through people’s beliefs & prayers and huge buildings (churches) dedicated to this consciousness that any person with enough will & desire to connect with to can tap into, both believers (Christians) & non believers (Non Christians).
Search “Channeling Jesus” if you don’t understand what I mean.
My point though, is this stupid thing Christians/religious people do (like u commented) living their life in hypocrisy, bound to some impossible rules, believing people will to go hell if they don’t believe in their god and even enjoying the thought of it, while simultaneously living a life in fear of going to hell them self;
_Just waiting for a long haired crucified dead man from a story in a 2k year old book to come down from the sky and rage-kill all “sinners” & non-believers._
Educate yourself on the origins of Christianity and all the inconsistencies from the oldest best selling sci-fi/adventure-drama ever written.
Free your mind & claim your birth given right as a creator reincarnated on this earth into your body suit and live through your own passions to fulfill your true life purpose.
The wheel of karma don’t care if you’ve repented or asked the element of air who you call god for forgiveness.
There is no heaven or hell, only others plains of existence where we’ll all return after this flesh-suit expires.
We’re here to grow as souls & learn from each other and experience a reality with the power of free will.
Ave Lucifer, Ave Kali, Ave Belial, Ave Jesus and all the God/Godesses !💜🔥
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People meet Jesus when they are on drugs too.
@@yonathank132 ?
I had an epidural IV in my spine during child birth. Right after that lady put it in my spine, I started having weird symptoms with my body. It felt as if it was shutting down. Long story short, I too floated out of my body and to speed up the story more, I saw Jesus. Jesus is real! The word is out, Jesus is real! He is in control! He is so mighty yet gentle. My whole life has changed. My anxiety is gone. And I’m no longer afraid of death instead am so comfortable with death. I’ve actually done some things as to standing up for myself in which I used to never do and will defend my faith. Everyone has their opinion. This is my truth. Nobody can tell me different. I will not be convinced. Thank you God for showing me you are real and that there is much more. We are being tested. Choose your destiny. Read your Bible. That’s the closest to the truth.
Thank you for sharing, amazing. I would love to hear more of your experience through your NDE, did you flatline after the epidural? Many thanks God bless you
An hour and a half of my life waiting for a "New Interpretation" that never showed up.
I have written 5 books on Amazon that revolve around the afterlife, physics, savant perception and even why people fight with much clearer data on NDE's. If Mr. Fisher truly studied only veridical NDE's, he might not be such a wishy-washy fence straddler.
Sorry, but, without sounding too braggadocious, I think I have much more to say on the interpretation of non-physical life relative to this one. And, yes, I've been out of my body three times - quite convincing!
Ivanhoe chaput - 'Wishy-washy fence straddler'! I like your turn of phrase and couldn't agree with you more!!!😁
I like that.. A lot..💫
Where on amazon can i find your books/what are the titles?😀
Thanks for your lead, Ivanhoe, as my intuition was tingling when I opened this video.
Universities have become intellectual cul-de-sacs and adult daycare centers for the pseudo intellectuals
I died at age 4 from illness. Went down the tunnel of light, met being, "you have a choice...go back or stay" he was in robe, brilliant light too! I return so as not to make my family sad.
I made that same choice at 23 while giving birth to my daughter. I now regret my choice as my daughter died and my family doesn't speak to me or care about what happens to me and I suffer tremendously physically. If given the choice again, I'm leaving!
@@dawnwinkler8905 I am so sorry to hear that Dawn.
@@dawnwinkler8905 well, at least you had your fun, right?
@@evathespeaker9537 what a stupid and insensitive thing to write
@@dawnwinkler8905 did your daughter pass then or later?
This is a very informative video, I was deployed to Iraq and was wounded in a rocket attack on March of 2011, what he mentioned in the beginning is exactly what I have witnessed exactly what he mentioned
That man with the missing dinchers, was Joe Holdaway, my father who had out outer body experience, when he had his first heart attack, back in the 80's . I'm telling you to hear him tell about it was something I will never forget. Because of his experience I'm not afraid to dye.
Your father was the NDE denture case - joe holdaway?
I have researched the famous denture NDE, and the man was a Dutch man named Beekhuizen