You just can't find specific information like this online. I feel like lots of bands take years to figure out these things for themselves, so this video will be gold to so many people!
Here's where you can see the famous German quality: given that every single member of the band has excellent english, they are so modest that they put forced subtitles on the video. This is a band that would deserve a billion times more than the success it has.
I had the honor to see you yesterday in Karlsruhe and believe me guys, that was one of the best live gig's I've ever seen. And I'm 62 and have been to a lot of concerts. Keep up the perfect work with this concept and your phenomenal music !
Amaaaazing !! Thanks for the insider information! saw you several times, being in a band, great to see how you guys handle all that! would love to see more on the drums... Paul? Thanks !!
This is super awesome to see bands offer tech knowledge like that. Much appreciated. May I suggest also voice hints? This way you can lower the chances of not counting or skipping a beat :)
This is badass. I love that bands are now capable of taking more control over their entire set, including lighting and transitions. Everything thought through, down to the tiniest detail.
Just saw them at Post Festival in Indy...they started off set with 2-3 "soft" songs and I was actually worried, then they played all heavy shit the rest of the way and it was GLORIOUS. Their sound was so clear and mixed very well.
Its weird seeing these guys slowly become more and more American in their accents over the years. Favorite band. The only music that can make me completely forget that I'm listening to guitars and drums and vocals. Please come to Tampa. I'll buy you all dinner.
I learned mixing on a very old Neve 16 channel board and did some sound reinforcement back in the day when digital was just coming onto the scene... remember DAT? The tech has come a very long way since the early 90's. Had a great time seeing this tour in Phoenix.
Thanks so much for making videos like this! So informative and inspiring, you guys rock, saludos from THE ADVENT EQUATION! hope to see you again very soon
Bloody hell that is some dedication to the set. I just could never be that constrained live I'm not that disciplined. Its phenomenal skill akin to a classical music performance. I assume they have a back up lap top 😂
This is fantastic! I would love to hear what it sounds like in the individual in ear for specific members if you ever feel up for it (sorry I know I’m asking a lot)
Yeah, we play a lot of fest-type 30-minute shows and run a closed system with Reaper as our daw/sequencer running backing tracks/click and midi to control our gigboards (all in rack) and with Midas x18 for our IEMs. Everything wireless, quick, and easy to setup on stage, and simply provide a split snake patch to FOH, done!
Each member takes the David Fincher approach of knowing enough about each other’s roles to be experts, but they let the specialists own their function.
Love the thought behind the gig. Using only one Quad Cortex is a surprise. Could you show us guitar patches in a little bit more detail? The only thing I would say regarding lights is that as much as strobe lights have a nice effect, unfortunately they can cause seizures. Maybe you could take this fact under consideration in the future?😊
wow, very interesting information. I knew that big bands controls every aspect of show, but it was quite interesting to watch how you prepare the show. Big respect for diezel vh4, nice choice (but way too expensive)
Question (for anyone): Robin and Paul say they set up the live session in Logic for the shows that has the click, backing tracks, etc. per song and that "they just hit play" and it goes for the entire show. How do they account for pauses between songs (are there any or is it one song directly in the next)? I am just wondering if like band needs to tune between songs, or vocalist speaks with crowd between songs, how does the session know when to start/stop? Any insight would be awesome, thanks!
Couple of ways to handle this: 1) Build in enough time in the DAW's sequence between the songs for band members to tune, or 2) Build in a MIDI function that triggers a loop back for a few seconds, so that it runs indefinitely until someone controlling the computer hits a key to skip past the loop and move on to the next song. Sounds like The Ocean are going with option #1. I have had success with option #2 in Ableton LIve; I'm sure this can be done in Logic. In both cases, you can program additional MIDI for lighting, synth pad sounds, reverb, etc., so that the "show" can still flow while band members take a break to tune, drink water, etc.
Amazing they can have basically an entire show on a computer so they dont have to worry about changing anything during play, if only every band clued into this great method
Most of modern band already doing this. That's why they rely on laptop so much. Remember last year falling in reverse cancel their gigs, because they don't have backup laptop.
@@BoyAdityano way? Why the Fxxk would you not have a back up. I'm so impressed with this style of performance. But I still want to see a band play of the cuff live. With so much additional music to add its the only way to play this live
its amazing, but does it mean that the band is limited to going off the song list? it doesnt sound like the band could decide to play something different? or is that the idea, to ensure a good tour?
Pretty much all bands stick to a fixxed setlist since their click tracks are pre-programmed already. This has been the case long before MIdI made it possible to automate more stuff like effects and lights. Thats why bands wont play a certain song if somebody holds up a sign that say PLAY SONG XYZ! since they'll just not be preparsd for it. Unless its some jam band like snarky puppy.
Cool rundown but... What about guitars, strings, picks, bass, drums, cymbals, drumsticks...? you know, those things that make you sound different from the rest.
Oh I get that. I use a Quad Cortex myself. Amp goes down you can borrow from an opener or headliner. I am sad I don’t see them touring with a keyboardist.
I get why they do it but it seems like it takes away the organic chemistry and groove from the band. Humans are supposed to make mistakes. That’s what makes it real and live. I see the the benefits of it though
You just can't find specific information like this online. I feel like lots of bands take years to figure out these things for themselves, so this video will be gold to so many people!
Long live The Ocean Collective
Here's where you can see the famous German quality: given that every single member of the band has excellent english, they are so modest that they put forced subtitles on the video. This is a band that would deserve a billion times more than the success it has.
All run with a laptop made in China
I had the honor to see you yesterday in Karlsruhe and believe me guys, that was one of the best live gig's I've ever seen. And I'm 62 and have been to a lot of concerts. Keep up the perfect work with this concept and your phenomenal music !
Awesome, detailed rig rundown, really enjoyed the behind the scenes look into your live setup.
2024: when metal bands became advanced IT engineers.
Robin is one of the greatest riffmakers of all time.
I love this kind of "inside baseball" stuff. Thanks for a fun and informative video!
The MIDI program acting as a trigger for the lights is actually really cool!
This is amazing guys. Thanks for the bts!!! 🙌
Damn this is extremely insightful.
Amaaaazing !! Thanks for the insider information! saw you several times, being in a band, great to see how you guys handle all that! would love to see more on the drums... Paul? Thanks !!
This is super awesome to see bands offer tech knowledge like that. Much appreciated.
May I suggest also voice hints? This way you can lower the chances of not counting or skipping a beat :)
This is badass. I love that bands are now capable of taking more control over their entire set, including lighting and transitions. Everything thought through, down to the tiniest detail.
My favorite band for so many reasons
And that's why I love you guys so much ❤❤❤
Really enjoyed this - thanks for the in-depth look at the hardware/audio setup you use! Much love from the UK!
Just saw them at Post Festival in Indy...they started off set with 2-3 "soft" songs and I was actually worried, then they played all heavy shit the rest of the way and it was GLORIOUS. Their sound was so clear and mixed very well.
This is GOLD!
This is the rig and setup of my dreams. Thanks for sharing the rig!
Looking forward to see you in Dresden this Friday!
Insightful thanks guys \m/
Geiles Setup, geile Typen!!
Its weird seeing these guys slowly become more and more American in their accents over the years.
Favorite band. The only music that can make me completely forget that I'm listening to guitars and drums and vocals.
Please come to Tampa. I'll buy you all dinner.
I learned mixing on a very old Neve 16 channel board and did some sound reinforcement back in the day when digital was just coming onto the scene... remember DAT? The tech has come a very long way since the early 90's. Had a great time seeing this tour in Phoenix.
Thanks so much for making videos like this! So informative and inspiring, you guys rock, saludos from THE ADVENT EQUATION! hope to see you again very soon
Bloody hell that is some dedication to the set. I just could never be that constrained live I'm not that disciplined. Its phenomenal skill akin to a classical music performance. I assume they have a back up lap top 😂
And that Dunable! ❤
Thanks for the insider information!
Loved the tour, had a blast with you guys in Albuquerque!
This is fantastic! I would love to hear what it sounds like in the individual in ear for specific members if you ever feel up for it (sorry I know I’m asking a lot)
Great video! Thanks for showing us all the details!
I love you guys so much.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm very jealous of the Americans getting to see Shy, Low 😁
this is amazing! loved seeing you guys in nyc! :)
Yeah, we play a lot of fest-type 30-minute shows and run a closed system with Reaper as our daw/sequencer running backing tracks/click and midi to control our gigboards (all in rack) and with Midas x18 for our IEMs. Everything wireless, quick, and easy to setup on stage, and simply provide a split snake patch to FOH, done!
🙏🙏🙏
Each member takes the David Fincher approach of knowing enough about each other’s roles to be experts, but they let the specialists own their function.
I love it!
Love the thought behind the gig. Using only one Quad Cortex is a surprise. Could you show us guitar patches in a little bit more detail?
The only thing I would say regarding lights is that as much as strobe lights have a nice effect, unfortunately they can cause seizures. Maybe you could take this fact under consideration in the future?😊
Tyson Fury spielt jetzt bei The Ocean??? Geil Vielen Dank für dieses Rig Rundown. Genau so wünscht man sich DAS!
I dreamed of this video since the Heliocentric/Anthropocentric era
I bought my wife that Shy, Low shirt on this tour and I have that QOTSA shirt Loic is wearing :}
my eyes shined when I saw the video's tittle !😳🤯
What happens if the laptop crashes or worse, gets stolen? 😳
wow, very interesting information. I knew that big bands controls every aspect of show, but it was quite interesting to watch how you prepare the show. Big respect for diezel vh4, nice choice (but way too expensive)
Can you guys upload your cortex captures/presets/profiles? If you could do that I would definitely buy a quad cortex!
Can't wait for a clean Ocean concert 😊😊
Question (for anyone): Robin and Paul say they set up the live session in Logic for the shows that has the click, backing tracks, etc. per song and that "they just hit play" and it goes for the entire show. How do they account for pauses between songs (are there any or is it one song directly in the next)? I am just wondering if like band needs to tune between songs, or vocalist speaks with crowd between songs, how does the session know when to start/stop? Any insight would be awesome, thanks!
Couple of ways to handle this:
1) Build in enough time in the DAW's sequence between the songs for band members to tune, or
2) Build in a MIDI function that triggers a loop back for a few seconds, so that it runs indefinitely until someone controlling the computer hits a key to skip past the loop and move on to the next song.
Sounds like The Ocean are going with option #1. I have had success with option #2 in Ableton LIve; I'm sure this can be done in Logic.
In both cases, you can program additional MIDI for lighting, synth pad sounds, reverb, etc., so that the "show" can still flow while band members take a break to tune, drink water, etc.
@@NicholasGreenwood That is great insight, thank you!! The fluidity of that would be awesome live!
You're in San Fran today and Switzerland tomorrow?
Amazing they can have basically an entire show on a computer so they dont have to worry about changing anything during play, if only every band clued into this great method
Most of modern band already doing this. That's why they rely on laptop so much. Remember last year falling in reverse cancel their gigs, because they don't have backup laptop.
@@BoyAdityano way? Why the Fxxk would you not have a back up. I'm so impressed with this style of performance. But I still want to see a band play of the cuff live. With so much additional music to add its the only way to play this live
its amazing, but does it mean that the band is limited to going off the song list? it doesnt sound like the band could decide to play something different? or is that the idea, to ensure a good tour?
That's the idea yeah. It's the same setlist every night because this helps keep everything in time and lines up the samples and synths and stuff.
Pretty much all bands stick to a fixxed setlist since their click tracks are pre-programmed already. This has been the case long before MIdI made it possible to automate more stuff like effects and lights. Thats why bands wont play a certain song if somebody holds up a sign that say PLAY SONG XYZ! since they'll just not be preparsd for it. Unless its some jam band like snarky puppy.
@@user-ix6qr5if5y yup. King Gizzard legit just mixes it up all the time which is sick, but most metal bands are too technical for that
Consistency is key.
grüße aus der heimat und lasst euch mal wieder von steven wilson besuchen, firmament war ja einfach nur rattengeil! ;>
Cool rundown but... What about guitars, strings, picks, bass, drums, cymbals, drumsticks...? you know, those things that make you sound different from the rest.
and what about bass?))))
cool. bit ocd eh?
This is hilarious...I can't tell if they are joking?
A rig rundown failure is to not talk about the guitars, tuning(s), string gauge ...
why did you guys go to this effort to then break up a week later
Add the show is canceled because someone lost the laptop….or lost the Quad Cortex
Plenty of stuff goes wrong with analog gear too.
This is progress, and allows bands to do so much more with a fraction of the gear and cost.
Oh I get that. I use a Quad Cortex myself. Amp goes down you can borrow from an opener or headliner. I am sad I don’t see them touring with a keyboardist.
A lot of spectacle. Probably a nice show. More production, less actual music being made.
I get why they do it but it seems like it takes away the organic chemistry and groove from the band. Humans are supposed to make mistakes. That’s what makes it real and live. I see the the benefits of it though
Both of you haven't heard them live. There's no "less actual music" on stage
Are you serious? Their love shows are incredibly good, as is their recorded music. Doing it this way just enhances the energy when they play live.