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Creative North I agree with you about purchasing a RED camera. My URSA Mini 4.6K is constantly out performing my RED Raven. In fact my RED has been in California getting repaired for the last 2 weeks due to issues!! The images you’ve displayed from the BMPC4K are truly cinematic and my trained eye could’ve easily mistaken it for a larger more expensive camera. Thanks for posting 💪🏾
I find it fascinating that Creative north and Brandon Lee are the only two people who actually USE the equipment they talk about on the field and show us how they work with the tools, tell us the honest truth and don't just sell out, it's really refreshing and i hope it's the mold of these type of tech reviews regarding camera equipment moving forward, there is a few solid guys who do the stationary reviews AMAZING, but god do i love the ones like this that are actually being used for WORK.
Another great channel is Camera Conspiracies. Just watch his first video and you'll understand the way he makes videos, but he's really honest and actually does camera reviews without being biased and will shit on any and every camera for any cons they have
So refreshing to watch a video about filmmaking that isn't filled with montages cut to annoying shitty upbeat songs. I'm tired of all those unoriginal uncreative uninspired "Peter McKinnonesque" videos. Anyway, awesome video man, keep it up!
So refreshing to watch a video that's actually teaching me something instead of the usual 120P, endless transitions, annoying fast cuts and beats club music in the background. Love it!
You really seem to know what you're talking about. No hype, no unnecessary superlatives. Just a man who has done his craft for a long time and can choose the right tool for his job. Respect. I got a BMPCC 4K and I'm planning to use it on a Ronin S with the DJI follow focus, but I'm having problems balancing all that with an on board Samsung T5 and Small Rig cage. Are you able to balance yours without counterweights? Also, what kind of lens gears are those? Thanks for the quality content, mate. Subbed as soon as I found your channel.
Thanks Un Tal Galvis! I haven't got the motor from DJI need to look into that! But so far haven't had that big of trouble balancing except with front heavy lenses. But I don't use those, try to keep the ronin rig as light as possible cause it's a beast. Usually use the easyrig if I'm doing the Sigma 18-35 for instance
You deliver so much more quality content than most TH-cam videographers, and it lies within your great storytelling through editing, composition and very good color grading (which only influence each other greatly). And I like that letterboxing. And Scandinavia.
Since The BMPCC 4K is not currently on Netflix list (just the URSA MINI 4.6) would the BMPCC be approved by Netflix? Since it can do 4:1 and 3:1 ? Sorry If I missed if you answered this.
Right when you said, "you want to pack as lightly as possible then you still take a bunch of stuff" I relate with you bro... You never know what you will need. Do you feel like there is another lightweight camera that you prefer over the Pocket as a cinema camera? Reason why, I feel lightweight is so much nicer for so many reasons.
I actually don't because I have a certain image quality that I try to archive and that's the only one that fits into my workflow and quality box :D Would consider the GH5S but format and in camera processing would be downsides of that one. Upside would be the size being even smaller.
One thing I like that you do (among other things) is a very personal audio processing. Its like you are right here with me. If I could learn ur process I would use it.
I’m only a couple minutes in and I just want to say I fucking love your style. So refreshing to watch someone who actually uses the gear to make really cinematic images, but just the same rehashed mashup, montage B-Roll, speed ramps, etc. great work. You earned a new subscriber in under 2 min.
The reason not to use a mic on a line input is that line level signals are 1V while mic signals are only 750mV and require a mic preamp which doesnt exist on a line level input. Greetings from the "other creative north" , Canada. Great Video. Keep it up!
Thanks for the review! Is there any Sony lens adapter to this camera? Still shooting with my A7SII but would like to try this one without buying new lenses.
Hmm not sure, but check Metabones Ultra version. That should be possible. If the lenses are apsc then it's the XL version you might want. Otherwise you can always use a EF adapter on the lenses with the EF metabones adapter
Nice video, thank you! One question.. what happens if you play footage from this camera in a cinema screen? Does the size of the sensor (m43) make it worse? Does it loose quality?
Hi, do you feel like your D-TAP. Swit S-8U93 Battery solution works well? Can you monitor the battery status on the BMPCC4k Display or do you check on the battery itself? How long of a run-time can you get out of the batterys. Thank you for a great site with good content for us! :) Tack!
Decent. On a big easyrig setup it’s fine but I would like there to be a battery grip solution. I like how tilta has made that and follow focus as one thing. That’s better. Then on the ronin I’m trying to get that to power it. Which should work but there’s no a cable yet. Now I just had the battery on a cheese plate which wasn’t ideal long term.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Okay, thank you for the input on this! I have ordered a plate for the BPU-30 / BPU60 www.ebay.com/itm/253999540547 and 2x BPU-30 + and 1x BPU60, lets see how it goes :)
Wide Zooms on BMPCC4k do you have any direct or second hand feedback on any of these lenses? Sigma 10-20mm, Tokin 11-20mm, Canon 10-18mm, Canon 10-22mm Want a lense that can do 18-24mm focal lenght
Any full frame one could make sense to me, I use the speedboster ultra. But I think if you go wider than 18 on a speedboster you start to get too wide. If it's a MFT lens then 10 starts to feel a bit wide when moving around. You get a bit too much distortion I feel.
i have a question if you see this! I’m in the market for my first nice dslr, been using a cannon t5i for almost 2 years. My only problem with this camera is the no continuous auto focus, what do you think of this? is it really not that big of a deal?
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom you sure were able to pull a lot from the gh5! It's maybe too late but at the time I'm sure a lot of people would have watched your workflow at color grading GH5 footages
Yeah absolutely. Been playing around with pushing the ISO to achieve a grainy look as well and it looks really good. I feel it's a much more professional and post friendly camera. If you can live with it's short comings in some areas. Then it produces better images and audio for sure.
Aren't you afraid of the snow or any moisture entering where the air ducts are in the camera since I noticed that you didn't cover them up only the ports of your camera? Also would love to see what's in your bag. Thanks, love your work.
I'm finally going to get one. I think. I'm going to team it up with my S1H. What do you think? I'm on the fence about selling the S1H to get more BMPCC 4k or 6k cam. I never shoot in 6k with my S1H. I mostly shoot 422 10-bit ALL-I. I know ProRes RAW is coming later this month but then that means spending another $700 on an Atomos Ninja V. I'd rather have RAW while spending less money. Thoughts anyone?
Hey Jonny. I'm busy doing your grading course & it's been so helpful in opening up Resolve for me. I've also got the BMPCC 4k. When shooting in ProRes I've seen it recommended to start with the Blackmagic Pocket 4k to Extended Video v4 lut. Are you using it in your workflow for when grading the footage?
Thanks mate! Awesome to hear! I use the extended video a lot. Feel like that's nice to start from. Pretty similar to what the C300 looks like I feel. So you would just work a bit different. I don't do much noise reduction on the pocket though. It has such a nice grain that you can actually shoot in raw and just keep the grain instead of adding it as well. If you want grain. But if you want it as clean as possible you can just go for prores and not add grain or do noise reduction as well. I find that when you do noise reduction in resolve it falls apart quicker than if you don't. And prores in pocket already does noise reduction in a superior way than I've been able to do in the program if you take the time to render into consideration as well.
hmm haven't noticed any strong vignetting and I usually shoot around 12 on the lumix lens. Some vignetting on 12mm when I use the speedbooster ultra with the sigma 18-35 though. But not a big issue for me. Rather have ultra than XL because it's better for the full frame lenses.
I use the focus assist, usually works. But I've been doing manual focusing on dslr screens since the 5D MK2 came out so could have something to do with practice :D But I got the focus motor for the ronin-s and that is even more smoooooth :D Can def recommend that. 12-35 is not ideal for manual focus though, way easier on still lenses or the sigma 18-35 for instance
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Yeah, I've moved to the Sigma 18-35 for most of my wider angle stuff, just wish I could still have dual IS on the GH5 :) I wish we could get some native glass for the GH5 with motorized focus rings.
Hi there, enjoyed your video and your tips because I also own a BMPCC 4k. Can u help me with that field monitor? How is the delay there? Heard the latency may be a problem when adding a external monitor to the BMPCC 4k. Thank you in advance
Thanks mate! Think that was fine but it struggled a bit in the cold. It’s a dirt cheap monitor so I was expecting that though. Pocket showed no signs of trouble with cold.
Can you make a video or at least leave a comment on the quality of the 1080p that comes out of the BMPCC4K? And maybe if this camera is worth getting if one is planning on using it for HD shooting at the moment? Please and thank you. I really enjoy your content man, please keep making videos! You rock!
I've shot a couple of things in 1080p on it. One commercial I shot this monday was 1080 for instance. Looks great. I don't like the crop mode so I'd turn that off but it looks sharp and gets similar field of view as 4k but doesn't vignette with my speedbooster.
Hmm it's pretty much built on things I had laying around. But I ordered the BM cable package. All you would need is a lemo to D-tap cable for the pocket 4k. Then I tool a cheeseplate and a nato mount and put some velcro on the batteries and cheeseplate to make it work. That was perfect. No need for battery mount. Works on an easyrig but too bulky for other rigs I think. Probably better off going with a bottom mounted v-lock for that.
I’m currently running with a gh5 setup and looking into going over to the BMPCC 4K , but I’m really can’t find accurate information on how people deal with the battery issues as well as the storage that’s needed . What do you do about these things to make shooting all day possible ?
Yeah I can def make that. Still solving it it the best way. I think the tilta cage has made most sense for me. With the hand grip that has battery and focus wheel. But they haven't released it yet. Then I would like to power it from the Ronin when I have it mounted there.
No worries! It's an easy rig minimax. Great thing! Showed some more of it in this video: th-cam.com/video/2CdjnW-ThQc/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwAM2Q9hRqCjoUKwUl4AaABAg
My BMPCC 4K is currently on its way to me ... and I simply can't wait to finally have it. I tested it a while ago after I originally planned to get an Ursa ... and after that I just wanted to have it. Normally I currently use a GH5 and yes - I'm happy with it. The picture quality of the 4K is just that tiny bit better - and I'm not talking about specs. It this special look that I simply like. So finally a replacement for my old BMPCC after a long love/hate-relationship ;) Great video - thanks for sharing you thoughts.
Yeah you won't be disappointed when comparing the prores HQ to the GH5 material :D The GH5 is great when conditions are good, but as soon as that low light starts it converts to a gopro camera :D
Hmm I think the pocket 4k is perfect for anyone that really wants to be a filmmaker. If you're more into vlogging and that type of filmmaking then it's not an ideal camera. But for anyone wanting to tell visual stories like professionals do (which student films should be), then it's a perfect camera for that.
I ordered the one DJI just released. Seems to be the best solution on the ronin since it has native power etc. But I think the Tilta Nucleus might be a better allround alternative. Haven't got the focus wheel for mine but I hope I can add that later from DJI so I can have it on the easyrig as well
Super great review! Of all the reviews I've seen (and I'v been scrooling through a lot of them since it was announced) this video was the first one that truly made me certain it's not just a toy camera pretending to be a big boy, but actually an amazing and well thought through tool for filmmaking! I've been sitting on my hands waiting to get enough evidence this is the camera for me as a fresh indie filmmaker, and thanks to your solid work I now feel that even if I find out that filmmaking isn't a thing for me in the end, I'm still gonna have an amazing camera to play around with that didn't burn up my wallet! Also really great to see some scandinavian environment since this is where I'm gonna use it. One question: Have you found any issues related to the cold and humid weather we're used to here? :)
Thanks mate! Actually was really surprised when I used it. Had zero issues with the cold and wet. Now I did cover the ports but not the fan vents. And the screen was fine too. Just had to rub it off sometimes when it got too wet or cloudy from going in and out. The Ikan screen struggled a little bit with the cold though. Got a bit slow.
Really been enjoying your videos. Thanks for all the work you do! Curious as to what you think about the rolling shutter in this camera. It's one of the main reasons I've wanted the Ursa... you just don't notice it at all... but a lot of the videos I've seen shot handheld on the Pocket 4k are suffering from major wobble. I'm sure a monopod or shoulder rig/stabilizer/loupe would help, but what about us folks who love handheld? Should we just step up to the Ursa or do you think a loupe is the answer?
Yeah there’s a lot of rolling shutter! Not something that I think has an affect on how I shoot but for anyone concerned about that it would be a negative thing for sure. I think the Ursa is a fantastic camera for shoots when you have bigger camera bag and don’t rely on low light capability. But for run and gun I’d go with the pocket.
I suck AND I was able to get some great video! Had an opportunity to shoot in NYC on a rainy day this last weekend. I was able to test out a few power options. NYC Holiday lights and sounds! I’ll post the videos this weekend. So much fun with the Pocket 4K!
Creative North I ran with 2 external setups, the Core SWX, and Sony NP-F with dummy battery. I’ll share my thoughts, but you’ll have to wait for the video.
I've had some dummy issues earlier so would be great to know if you felt that was a good solution. I feel like you want to avoid having a big large hole open into the camera :D
Thank you for this video...very helpful and much appreciated. You said do not use the line in...What would be your suggestion to record ambient sound if I had my avx lav on a subject running through the xlr already? Obviously trying to be as minimal as possible and do not want to also cary a zoom. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Hmmm I would test it out to see, but for me it makes sense to do wild recordings after the scene is over. I usually want to have a separate lav recorder like the lectrosonics pdr on the main characters and then a directional mic on the camera as backup. Tascam has cheaper version of the lectrosonics pdr as well. Then I try to record as much field recordings as I remember. But a good practice is to always record 1-2 min of the ambience for each scene. Then approach sound recordings just like b-roll after the scene is over. Otherwise a Soundly subscription is also really awesome!
Creative North awesome! Thank you for the answer. Is there a way to connect a lav and shotgun mic to the BMPC4k at the same time? I ask because I would like to build a better run and gun for docs.....I’m with you on recording sound after scenes for shorts. Didn’t know if you could somehow run 2 xlrs into the camera.
I think the only way I see it working would be if you use a shotgun like the Sennheiser MKE600 which can be using TRS and then a lav via XLR or vice versa. But you would have to test if using TRS gets you worse noise level. I would go a different way though and use a lav recorder on talent and a shotgun mic because it gives you an advantage to have everything recorded all the time, even when the camera isn't shooting. That's a safety for me. Otherwise you might miss what someone is saying. For me that's a crucial thing that the closest mic to the talent is always on, but then the shotgun is on the camera for safety or when spontaneous situations happen with more than one person.
Ok, now I get it....you are right, the Lectrosonics pdr is a game changer and then I will just run the MKE 600 on camera. Once again, I really appreciate your channel. Thanks again for the help!
Hehe maybe, I have both and even though the GH5 is a good camera in most situations. It has a weird sharpness and de-noising thing going on at higher ISO. Making it look unnatural. And then the format is also a bit of pain in the ass in terms of workflow. However it's a camera that creates great images, but both cameras have their downsides. For vlogging I don't think it's easy to only have a pocket. But for commerical work it would make more sense to me at least. I've shot three commercials on it over the Ursa since I got it.
Your comment on the LCD made me think, wouldn't it be nice if you could detach the LCD completely from the camera and it had a built-in HDMI input, power jack and 1/4" 20 thread on the bottom and side. Something like that since it is a decent size touch display that will be mostly wasted when using a rig, which I imagine most people buying this camera will use, and needing an external monitor.
I think with time it's going to be wireless. That I'd love. But I think BM could build a new version of video assist with touch screen as well. As I understand it they could do it via the USB port. I'd really like a touch screen and DJI has pulled that off with their clearsky controller so it's def possible :D
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom I was just thinking last night that it should be wireless as well. Put a popular Sony battery input on the back when detached with BT connectivity. That would make it both portable if needed for RnG/gimbal work and also useful when decking it out as a full cinema rig.
Great incites into the camera! I've been watching all your videos lately, I like your style! I wanted to ask you something, since I cudnt find any info about this...Is it possible to shoot long exposure timelapses anyway? I've ordered my BMPCC4k over a month ago and its yet to come :(
Thanks! Hmm don't think so. I think you could play around with the angle/shutter but it only goes down to around 10 I think. so it's not really long exposure and I'm not sure how it would affect a still. Only tried it when testing noise.
Awesome video ! Can we saw somewhere what you actually shoot with in the snowstorm ? Also did it managed to work nicely even in cold condition ? ( I'm wondering what camera to get for my skiing video this season )
Thanks mate! I can't show the storm until the campaign is out late 2019 HAHAHA that's the issue :D But will for sure do a follow up with that campaign cause it's pretty awesome. But it actually has zero issues with the cold. Wasn't super cold but very windy and lot's of snow. I would be a bit cautious with snow though since it's not weather sealed. Probably would work for skiing as long as you don't drop it, but often you do :D
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom On no, too bad, yeah the weather sealing is also an issue... Maybe i'll have to get something else, for now i've used the Sony a6500 and the a7rii..
try the GH5S think that one's super underrated with new firmware etc. Only issue I have with the GH5 is that it's not light sensitive. And the format is a bit stupid because you can't preview the files in finder.
Great video! I mounted a zacuto z-finder evf on the top of my pocket 4k pointing upwards, makes a good handheld rig. The loupe on the z-finder flips up and you get a 3.2 inch monitor too.
I don't agree that it should show the scroll wheel value on the external monitor as the internal display... I think they should change it so the scroll wheel only change the top of the screen value, and highlight which setting we are currently modifying. My issue with it is that you are loosing histogram output when changing values
Yeah one thing they could do is just to make whatever is being selected red or something to make it clear. But now you're pretty dependent on the touch screen to know what you're doing.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom haha... I did touch my monitor screen as a reflex a few time... We quickly get used to it being touch screen ! That probably going to be in the list of feature for newer camera and monitor to have a touchscreen usb feed to the camera.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Yes ! They could actually accept any USB interface in there if they wanted to... Just require create a driver to support it (It probably running linux in the camera, so the drivers already exist for most things). They could do a USB-C Viewfinder, Ethernet, wifi, or connect your phone via USB for LTE live streaming... Want more Audio input, connect a external audio interface. Ok you WILL need to use external power because of the powerdraw as well. It all things they could do... It limited only by the CPU of the camera and the USB-C bus speed. But will they spend time on any of these items ? I don't think so... They have a lot of work on the UI I would like them to do before any of those things. For the touchscreen feature, they might actually do it if they release a new monitor with that capability. I''m actually a bit confused at how thing work at BM... I mean, they gave us a pretty amazing camera for the price... They didn't have to give us a Powered XLR input... They could have made it an external dongle. They could have got rid of the audio in/out port and also depend on external USB-C interface like on mobile phone these days and try to reduce the cost(I actually wouldn't have minded it). But they gave us pretty much everything we wanted ! There is a lot of stuff I wish was changed in the software, it it remain to be seen if they will impress us with their update !
Yeah but they did make the videoassist v1 with both SDI and HDMI that nobody did. So I guess they could just take a jump and make a touch screen v2 :D Big hope for christmas
It's actually a DIY solution. I took a cheeseplate and put velcro on both sides and then on the batteries as well. Added a nato rail quick release thing to the cheeseplate to make it easy to add. Works well on a bigger rig but not for smaller handheld work
Hey Johnny, did you know about the Ikan EVF35 ($299 on B&H)? It's basically the same monitor you have + a viewfinder. I bet you can buy a 3inch simple viewfinder and attach it to your monitor as well. The other low cost option is to get the GRID 5.0 viewfinder ($241) originally made for the bmcc! I would love to hear your thoughts on both solutions. Take care! - Renzo Forero.
Thanks renzo! Been looking at those! I think the grid makes most sense because it can support the smallest form factor when you need it. But maybe you have to have a second monitor anyways and you want the touch screen accessible, then the evf35 makes sense as well. The screen had some trouble in the cold though, so I wouldn’t trust it as a professional solution. It’s just very small and convenient
Fortunately for me, I rarely travel that up north! I currently live in France and before that in Florida and Peru. All of those places are rarely below 0, so I'm leaning towards the Ikan, I love how you could place it anywhere and move it 90 degrees :)
@11:10 best quote of the video haha. Going to upgrade from point and shoot land to the big boys and your work makes the mirco 4/3 world very compelling. Keep up the awesome content!
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom ya between this and the GH5 (easier on the budget used) makes decisions difficult. Thanks for showing that sensor size doesnt make the video/you don't HAVE to get apsc or full frame.
Thank you for all the insight to this camera I have one and I am very pleased with it, I also plan to buy a Mini Ursa pro 4.6K as well later this year. thanks again.
Thanks! 4.6K should drop even more in price soon I think. I can't imagine why they wouldn't update that camera now that they have the pocket which is as good in many ways.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom I'm currently binging your videos and learning so much. I'm thinking about trading in my Canon 800d for Panasonic g80/85 for 4k & stabilization, but am worried about vlogging with inconsistent autofocus, so using manual seems doable when you explain it like that. Thank you
Yeah for sure it's just something you get used to. I feel more confident with manual. If it fails I know who is to blame as well which forces you to get better. Auto always give you someone else to blame :D
I always enjoy your videos. Thanks for posting. Also, I guess I suck lol because I can't never get good cinematic videos out of the BMPCC 4K, maybe is because I keep shooting in DNG Raw. Any tips on getting good footage out of this camera. Also I already invested on a RØDE VideoMic Go what do you recommend doing to get better quality sound with that mic?
Thanks TubeSilva! Awesome to hear! Haha, it comes down to grading it as well. And how to use light :D Check out the latest live stream or the cinematic lighting video I did last week for more on that. I would say it mainly comes down to using light in the right way. It can also help to use a LUT in camera so you see what it looks like graded rather than log. I would not recommend using that mic with the camera if you want quality audio. This video explains more about the audio in the camera: th-cam.com/video/m6m4f_-mBDs/w-d-xo.html
Pretty hard to see with the compressed format for me but I was getting the impression that this is a bit correlated to why I feel like the cinema dng isn't as clean as it should be. Not sure but I feel like you're getting some falling apart of the image as well? loss of detail and blocks of noise then not noise in your video? I did that with noise reduction as well and thought it looked a lot worse when I did removal vs when the prores noise reduction algorithm did it. The prores files look like a clean raw image while the cinema dng looks like a compressed noise redacted one.
Deity told me when I was buying their D3 Pro mic that came with 3.5mm TRRS cable that XLR port has the same pre amp as 3.5mm, cause I was asking for them to sell the 3.5mm to xlr adapter separately from their boom mic kit.
Might be true, but if the mic doesn't input enough DB into the camera you will get higher noise pattern. My guess is that that's what's happening if they use same pre-amp. But even bigger issue for me is that any TRS mic is crap if you compare to the Sennheiser 416 or even the Sennheiser mke600 (which also has TRS). You have physics against you. A shotgun mic needs length in order to pick up more focused audio. I have the D3 Pro mic to test out and it's a good on camera mic. For what it is. But very hard to compare to the XLR mics in terms of pro quality. I find myself just using the internal mics rather than putting the D3 on. But when I plan things to shoot I use the sanken Cos 11-D lav instead of on camera mic.
Battery solutions? Anyone have a solution as I have been using Smallhd gocus with dummy battery and Sony 750 and it lasts 50min. Is it better to use Canon Lp6 batteries? Thanks
I think I've found my solution now! Haven't been able to put it together yet. But I feel the best way if you're not powering off of the ronin-s for instance. Is to do it through a monitor or a battery mounted to a monitor. There are mainly three alternatives as I see it. 1. Using a monitor with a Sony BP-U plate (then having a SWIT battery with D-Tap on that battery plate). 2. Using a monitor with a Sony L series battery plate with a SWIT battery with a 12v out on it. 3. Using a monitor with a 12v power output that has for instance a Sony L series battery. I think which one is up to what you have already. Feelworld is sending me their FW568 which seems to be a cheap alternative. Not sure how the screen holds up yet but that would work with both alternative 2 and 3.
Creative North i mean 50min is ok I guess for a SmallHD Focus monitor and running the BMPCC4K. I have 6 Np-F750 batteries and I can shoot all day with it. Have no problems but thinking that the SmallHD Focus says it outputs 7.2V and 2.6A I am not sure if this is the best solution. Maybe just buying a bunch of Canon Batteries would be better?? Honestly though really not having any issues with this setup. What have you been doing? Just Canon LP6?
Hmm I think you need 12v for the pocket but not 100% sure. I've been doing LP6 for handheld but if I've been on an easyrig I've used the SWIT BP-U with D-tap mounted to a cheeseplate with velcro. Simple but really functional solution. The cheeseplate then has a nato rail mount so it's quick to mount.
Amazing video, going to start doing narrative work soon and want to get a good b camera for my second shot and the pocket really looks like it’s it. My main is of course the ursa mini pro. Thank you for this! I’m about to spend a lot of money so videos like this help me with spending it the right way.
Thanks Gil Rios! Awesome to hear! I often leave the ursa home because pocket is so damn good. Image quality is similar but it's more light sensitive. Now you have some limitations because it's so small but that could just as easily make it qualify into benefits as well. I love it. If I were to only one camera it would be the pocket 4k for sure.
Very true! Unbelievable when you watch the latest video about the Ursa. The last clip which is pocket 4k is a low light test. The uploaded clip looks horrible compared to what the footage actually look like in the grade. I feel like TH-cam struggle a lot with underexposed or low-key footage.
Well doesn't really matter if they look, behave and grade the same. Not so interested in paper spec. I look at real world testing for conclusions. And from my experience having both cameras the ursa under performs in terms of cleanest image. Even if it has a tiny micro latitude gain that doesn't matter if it creates worst looking image. And it does above 400 iso. Up to 400 I'd say it's negligible in the difference. Plus any DP that needs that extra latitude should probably revise that title. The only time you would be in need of that if when you don't know how to expose a shot :D In raw and especially blackmagic RAW ursa outperforms though. But in prores HQ they're very close, and once pocket gets braw it will be evened out.
If you do a lot of docus I highly recommand to get a B4 mount for the Mini Pro and a nice Leica or Fujinon B4 lens. Its a little hassle to fix the backfocus with the shim kits going like try-error try-error try-error try-error try-error ... BUT in the end you get a horny Parfocal lens of wide focal length - I use a Fujinon 14-144 - though keep in mind that you have to use a croped sensor. Ursa Mini Pro: best camera on the market price/value/quality wise! Salute man. By the way, would love to go on a shot with you, maybe some day.
Thanks FIlmTalk With The Judd Brothers! Awesome to hear! Also I appreciate the audio breakdown Curtis did of the camera as well! Recommend it when I get asked about the audio capabilities :D
I love blackmagic, all my films for the past few years have been shot on them. But I cannot get over the form factor on the bmpcc 4K. It just doesn’t seem to take itself seriously lol.
Haha I can admit it looks weird. But in my hand I've got zero trouble with the build. The main problem I have with it is the screen. Amazing screen that can't be used because it just sits there, looking pretty. Useless when you can't tilt it.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Yet somehow the a7rII screen is worse lol. Why be able to move a screen up and down but not out to the side? It gives the illusion of functionality XD.
I guess you rarely run into issues with camera overheating huh? Seriously, love your film here and found it a breath of fresh air in the TH-cam assembly line of camera reviews.
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Creative North I agree with you about purchasing a RED camera. My URSA Mini 4.6K is constantly out performing my RED Raven. In fact my RED has been in California getting repaired for the last 2 weeks due to issues!! The images you’ve displayed from the BMPC4K are truly cinematic and my trained eye could’ve easily mistaken it for a larger more expensive camera. Thanks for posting 💪🏾
What are the main lenses you use with the BMPCC 4K
Bro you are a meth user
I find it fascinating that Creative north and Brandon Lee are the only two people who actually USE the equipment they talk about on the field and show us how they work with the tools, tell us the honest truth and don't just sell out, it's really refreshing and i hope it's the mold of these type of tech reviews regarding camera equipment moving forward, there is a few solid guys who do the stationary reviews AMAZING, but god do i love the ones like this that are actually being used for WORK.
Thanks mate! That's how I want the channel to be. Feeling like you learn by watching real projects being made. Will do even more of that this year
By "Brandon Lee" do you mean Brandon Li? Cause if you, yes..that man is on point with his stuff.
@@itsjo I make the same mistake, I miss brandon lee :(
@@smoogles.5534 He is missed. Gone too soon scenario. Brandon Li however is still creating some amazing stuff...
Another great channel is Camera Conspiracies. Just watch his first video and you'll understand the way he makes videos, but he's really honest and actually does camera reviews without being biased and will shit on any and every camera for any cons they have
So refreshing to watch a video about filmmaking that isn't filled with montages cut to annoying shitty upbeat songs. I'm tired of all those unoriginal uncreative uninspired "Peter McKinnonesque" videos. Anyway, awesome video man, keep it up!
Thanks mate! Great feedback!
i feel exactly the same. thanks for the video Jonny.
Amen to that! This fellow swede nails it when it comes to videos.
So refreshing to watch a video that's actually teaching me something instead of the usual 120P, endless transitions, annoying fast cuts and beats club music in the background. Love it!
You really seem to know what you're talking about. No hype, no unnecessary superlatives. Just a man who has done his craft for a long time and can choose the right tool for his job. Respect.
I got a BMPCC 4K and I'm planning to use it on a Ronin S with the DJI follow focus, but I'm having problems balancing all that with an on board Samsung T5 and Small Rig cage. Are you able to balance yours without counterweights?
Also, what kind of lens gears are those?
Thanks for the quality content, mate. Subbed as soon as I found your channel.
Thanks Un Tal Galvis! I haven't got the motor from DJI need to look into that! But so far haven't had that big of trouble balancing except with front heavy lenses. But I don't use those, try to keep the ronin rig as light as possible cause it's a beast. Usually use the easyrig if I'm doing the Sigma 18-35 for instance
You deliver so much more quality content than most TH-cam videographers, and it lies within your great storytelling through editing, composition and very good color grading (which only influence each other greatly). And I like that letterboxing. And Scandinavia.
Since The BMPCC 4K is not currently on Netflix list (just the URSA MINI 4.6) would the BMPCC be approved by Netflix? Since it can do 4:1 and 3:1 ? Sorry If I missed if you answered this.
take a shot every time he says snow haha
Haha
Right when you said, "you want to pack as lightly as possible then you still take a bunch of stuff" I relate with you bro... You never know what you will need. Do you feel like there is another lightweight camera that you prefer over the Pocket as a cinema camera? Reason why, I feel lightweight is so much nicer for so many reasons.
I actually don't because I have a certain image quality that I try to archive and that's the only one that fits into my workflow and quality box :D Would consider the GH5S but format and in camera processing would be downsides of that one. Upside would be the size being even smaller.
One thing I like that you do (among other things) is a very personal audio processing. Its like you are right here with me. If I could learn ur process I would use it.
Thanks mate! Technically you mean? How it's EQd and such in post? or more how it's recorded?
Creative North EQ stuff would be super interesting. For example how you would make a lav sound better.
Planning to do a sound mixing video so will include that!
Enjoying your vids
I also have a BMPCC4k and the Ronin S ....which you can also power it from.
Also waiting on the focus motor to finish the package.
Do you use a dummy battery? Had an issue where my dummy battery broke so I haven't felt like that's a reliable solution :D
Making final decision on getting a BMDPCC4k. Enjoyed your thoughts
I’m only a couple minutes in and I just want to say I fucking love your style. So refreshing to watch someone who actually uses the gear to make really cinematic images, but just the same rehashed mashup, montage B-Roll, speed ramps, etc. great work. You earned a new subscriber in under 2 min.
The reason not to use a mic on a line input is that line level signals are 1V while mic signals are only 750mV and require a mic preamp which doesnt exist on a line level input.
Greetings from the "other creative north" , Canada. Great Video. Keep it up!
I'm in a confused state on buying either Sony a7iii or bmpcc4k which one do you vote?
Great Video ! What camera , lens and shutter speed you have shot this video on ? It looks very cinematic not so sharp and clean like a normal video.
Awesome video.. can you write the equipment for your black magic pocket? Please, or what to buy for the battery?
I enjoyed this video. It had a very honest tone, like one pro talking to another. “If you can’t get good images with this camera, you suck!” Love it!
Hehe tanks mate
Thanks for the review! Is there any Sony lens adapter to this camera? Still shooting with my A7SII but would like to try this one without buying new lenses.
Hmm not sure, but check Metabones Ultra version. That should be possible. If the lenses are apsc then it's the XL version you might want. Otherwise you can always use a EF adapter on the lenses with the EF metabones adapter
Nice video, thank you! One question.. what happens if you play footage from this camera in a cinema screen? Does the size of the sensor (m43) make it worse? Does it loose quality?
Hey man, would you recomend this camera for wedding videography? :) if not what whould u recomend?
Absolutely! Especially on a ronin-s with focus motor or similar gimbal! Add an easyrig and you loose the carrying obstacle as well.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom thanks! Going to get it!
Hi, do you feel like your D-TAP. Swit S-8U93 Battery solution works well? Can you monitor the battery status on the BMPCC4k Display or do you check on the battery itself? How long of a run-time can you get out of the batterys. Thank you for a great site with good content for us! :) Tack!
Decent. On a big easyrig setup it’s fine but I would like there to be a battery grip solution. I like how tilta has made that and follow focus as one thing. That’s better. Then on the ronin I’m trying to get that to power it. Which should work but there’s no a cable yet. Now I just had the battery on a cheese plate which wasn’t ideal long term.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Okay, thank you for the input on this! I have ordered a plate for the BPU-30 / BPU60 www.ebay.com/itm/253999540547 and 2x BPU-30 + and 1x BPU60, lets see how it goes :)
Let me know cause it looks like a pretty slim solution. I just velcro'd it :D
Wide Zooms on BMPCC4k do you have any direct or second hand feedback on any of these lenses? Sigma 10-20mm, Tokin 11-20mm, Canon 10-18mm, Canon 10-22mm Want a lense that can do 18-24mm focal lenght
Any full frame one could make sense to me, I use the speedboster ultra. But I think if you go wider than 18 on a speedboster you start to get too wide. If it's a MFT lens then 10 starts to feel a bit wide when moving around. You get a bit too much distortion I feel.
May I ask which easy rig you are using? Minimax perhaps?
Yeah minimax! Works pretty well up to the Ursa rig I have as well.
i have a question if you see this! I’m in the market for my first nice dslr, been using a cannon t5i for almost 2 years. My only problem with this camera is the no continuous auto focus, what do you think of this? is it really not that big of a deal?
Which camera did you record most of this video with? The outside snow shots?
Most was the GH5 I think. I was shooting the ad with the pocket. Latest videos on the channel is shot on the pocket mostly though.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom you sure were able to pull a lot from the gh5! It's maybe too late but at the time I'm sure a lot of people would have watched your workflow at color grading GH5 footages
Do you think this camera is a better option for film students than GH5 OR A7S2? Plus, great content. 👍
Yeah absolutely. Been playing around with pushing the ISO to achieve a grainy look as well and it looks really good. I feel it's a much more professional and post friendly camera. If you can live with it's short comings in some areas. Then it produces better images and audio for sure.
Aren't you afraid of the snow or any moisture entering where the air ducts are in the camera since I noticed that you didn't cover them up only the ports of your camera? Also would love to see what's in your bag. Thanks, love your work.
I'm finally going to get one. I think. I'm going to team it up with my S1H. What do you think? I'm on the fence about selling the S1H to get more BMPCC 4k or 6k cam. I never shoot in 6k with my S1H. I mostly shoot 422 10-bit ALL-I. I know ProRes RAW is coming later this month but then that means spending another $700 on an Atomos Ninja V. I'd rather have RAW while spending less money. Thoughts anyone?
Hey Jonny. I'm busy doing your grading course & it's been so helpful in opening up Resolve for me. I've also got the BMPCC 4k. When shooting in ProRes I've seen it recommended to start with the Blackmagic Pocket 4k to Extended Video v4 lut. Are you using it in your workflow for when grading the footage?
Thanks mate! Awesome to hear! I use the extended video a lot. Feel like that's nice to start from. Pretty similar to what the C300 looks like I feel. So you would just work a bit different. I don't do much noise reduction on the pocket though. It has such a nice grain that you can actually shoot in raw and just keep the grain instead of adding it as well. If you want grain. But if you want it as clean as possible you can just go for prores and not add grain or do noise reduction as well. I find that when you do noise reduction in resolve it falls apart quicker than if you don't. And prores in pocket already does noise reduction in a superior way than I've been able to do in the program if you take the time to render into consideration as well.
How do you avoid vignetting while using the 12-35, at the wide end, along with your variable ND filter?
hmm haven't noticed any strong vignetting and I usually shoot around 12 on the lumix lens. Some vignetting on 12mm when I use the speedbooster ultra with the sigma 18-35 though. But not a big issue for me. Rather have ultra than XL because it's better for the full frame lenses.
What camera are you using when doing first person/vlogging in this video? Gh5?
Yeah GH5 usually, sometimes I used the pocket when the GH5 was far away for some b-roll though
How do you find the focus by wire is with the Panasonic 12-35 on the BMPCC? I find it a bit fussy on the GH5 and hard to get predictable results.
I use the focus assist, usually works. But I've been doing manual focusing on dslr screens since the 5D MK2 came out so could have something to do with practice :D But I got the focus motor for the ronin-s and that is even more smoooooth :D Can def recommend that. 12-35 is not ideal for manual focus though, way easier on still lenses or the sigma 18-35 for instance
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Yeah, I've moved to the Sigma 18-35 for most of my wider angle stuff, just wish I could still have dual IS on the GH5 :) I wish we could get some native glass for the GH5 with motorized focus rings.
@@SignLanguageResources thanks Andrew. Not looking for autofocus, just wish the focus wheel on the pany lenses were a bit nicer.
Hi there, enjoyed your video and your tips because I also own a BMPCC 4k. Can u help me with that field monitor? How is the delay there? Heard the latency may be a problem when adding a external monitor to the BMPCC 4k. Thank you in advance
Thanks mate! Think that was fine but it struggled a bit in the cold. It’s a dirt cheap monitor so I was expecting that though. Pocket showed no signs of trouble with cold.
Thanks a lot for that quick and helpful answer!
Can you make a video or at least leave a comment on the quality of the 1080p that comes out of the BMPCC4K? And maybe if this camera is worth getting if one is planning on using it for HD shooting at the moment? Please and thank you. I really enjoy your content man, please keep making videos! You rock!
I've shot a couple of things in 1080p on it. One commercial I shot this monday was 1080 for instance. Looks great. I don't like the crop mode so I'd turn that off but it looks sharp and gets similar field of view as 4k but doesn't vignette with my speedbooster.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom awesome thanks man!
What are the main lenses you use with the BMPCC 4K
You mentioned using timecode for the 3.5mm... can you explain this setup / part?
Andrew Parsons Thanks!
Exactly! Then in post you can just select all clips and sync via time code. Takes zero seconds to sync and works great.
Any way you can get us a link or description to the rig you were using to connect the batteries?
Hmm it's pretty much built on things I had laying around. But I ordered the BM cable package. All you would need is a lemo to D-tap cable for the pocket 4k. Then I tool a cheeseplate and a nato mount and put some velcro on the batteries and cheeseplate to make it work. That was perfect. No need for battery mount. Works on an easyrig but too bulky for other rigs I think. Probably better off going with a bottom mounted v-lock for that.
I’m currently running with a gh5 setup and looking into going over to the BMPCC 4K , but I’m really can’t find accurate information on how people deal with the battery issues as well as the storage that’s needed . What do you do about these things to make shooting all day possible ?
Yeah I can def make that. Still solving it it the best way. I think the tilta cage has made most sense for me. With the hand grip that has battery and focus wheel. But they haven't released it yet. Then I would like to power it from the Ronin when I have it mounted there.
That sounds like an awesome set up ! How do you deal with memory ? Cfast card or SSD ? Both ?
I have Cfast but that's because I have it since Ursa and C300Mk2 usage. I think SSD with a clamp on the cage make most sense if you buy now
Hi! I'm very interested in your set up. Could you put the links, please? Thamks a lot
apologies for the novice question but what do you call that thing on your back that hangs/supports the camera to keep it stabilized?
No worries! It's an easy rig minimax. Great thing! Showed some more of it in this video: th-cam.com/video/2CdjnW-ThQc/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwAM2Q9hRqCjoUKwUl4AaABAg
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom okay thank you so much! Great video BTW!!
Can we see a breakdown of how you rigged it in detail. I’m thinking about picking one up as well
"Anyone who doesn't get good imagery out of the camera, you suck..." 😂😂
Best part of the video is at 14:14 Thanks for honest review.
My BMPCC 4K is currently on its way to me ... and I simply can't wait to finally have it. I tested it a while ago after I originally planned to get an Ursa ... and after that I just wanted to have it. Normally I currently use a GH5 and yes - I'm happy with it. The picture quality of the 4K is just that tiny bit better - and I'm not talking about specs. It this special look that I simply like. So finally a replacement for my old BMPCC after a long love/hate-relationship ;)
Great video - thanks for sharing you thoughts.
Yeah you won't be disappointed when comparing the prores HQ to the GH5 material :D The GH5 is great when conditions are good, but as soon as that low light starts it converts to a gopro camera :D
Best for budget student films ? What say? Great video!
Hmm I think the pocket 4k is perfect for anyone that really wants to be a filmmaker. If you're more into vlogging and that type of filmmaking then it's not an ideal camera. But for anyone wanting to tell visual stories like professionals do (which student films should be), then it's a perfect camera for that.
What lens did you use? Just wondering what you did for stabilization?
For the vlog I used the gh5 with a lumix pancake 12-32 lens. But for the short film we shot I used the pocket with the lumix 12-35 2.8 lens.
What follow focus for the Ronin S and the 4K BMPCC would you recommend?
I ordered the one DJI just released. Seems to be the best solution on the ronin since it has native power etc. But I think the Tilta Nucleus might be a better allround alternative. Haven't got the focus wheel for mine but I hope I can add that later from DJI so I can have it on the easyrig as well
Super great review! Of all the reviews I've seen (and I'v been scrooling through a lot of them since it was announced) this video was the first one that truly made me certain it's not just a toy camera pretending to be a big boy, but actually an amazing and well thought through tool for filmmaking!
I've been sitting on my hands waiting to get enough evidence this is the camera for me as a fresh indie filmmaker, and thanks to your solid work I now feel that even if I find out that filmmaking isn't a thing for me in the end, I'm still gonna have an amazing camera to play around with that didn't burn up my wallet!
Also really great to see some scandinavian environment since this is where I'm gonna use it.
One question: Have you found any issues related to the cold and humid weather we're used to here? :)
Thanks mate! Actually was really surprised when I used it. Had zero issues with the cold and wet. Now I did cover the ports but not the fan vents. And the screen was fine too. Just had to rub it off sometimes when it got too wet or cloudy from going in and out. The Ikan screen struggled a little bit with the cold though. Got a bit slow.
I am happy you like it as I ordered it last month. 😊
Awesome to hear!
Really been enjoying your videos. Thanks for all the work you do! Curious as to what you think about the rolling shutter in this camera. It's one of the main reasons I've wanted the Ursa... you just don't notice it at all... but a lot of the videos I've seen shot handheld on the Pocket 4k are suffering from major wobble. I'm sure a monopod or shoulder rig/stabilizer/loupe would help, but what about us folks who love handheld? Should we just step up to the Ursa or do you think a loupe is the answer?
Yeah there’s a lot of rolling shutter! Not something that I think has an affect on how I shoot but for anyone concerned about that it would be a negative thing for sure. I think the Ursa is a fantastic camera for shoots when you have bigger camera bag and don’t rely on low light capability. But for run and gun I’d go with the pocket.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Thanks for the reply! Rolling shutter is a bummer, but for $1300 I think I'll still pick one up anyway :) Merry Christmas!
I suck AND I was able to get some great video! Had an opportunity to shoot in NYC on a rainy day this last weekend. I was able to test out a few power options. NYC Holiday lights and sounds! I’ll post the videos this weekend. So much fun with the Pocket 4K!
Hahah great! How are you solving the power? I hope to have a ronin-s solution going forward but the cable I bought for it didn't work
Creative North I ran with 2 external setups, the Core SWX, and Sony NP-F with dummy battery. I’ll share my thoughts, but you’ll have to wait for the video.
I've had some dummy issues earlier so would be great to know if you felt that was a good solution. I feel like you want to avoid having a big large hole open into the camera :D
Thank you for this video...very helpful and much appreciated. You said do not use the line in...What would be your suggestion to record ambient sound if I had my avx lav on a subject running through the xlr already? Obviously trying to be as minimal as possible and do not want to also cary a zoom. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Hmmm I would test it out to see, but for me it makes sense to do wild recordings after the scene is over. I usually want to have a separate lav recorder like the lectrosonics pdr on the main characters and then a directional mic on the camera as backup. Tascam has cheaper version of the lectrosonics pdr as well. Then I try to record as much field recordings as I remember. But a good practice is to always record 1-2 min of the ambience for each scene. Then approach sound recordings just like b-roll after the scene is over. Otherwise a Soundly subscription is also really awesome!
Creative North awesome! Thank you for the answer. Is there a way to connect a lav and shotgun mic to the BMPC4k at the same time? I ask because I would like to build a better run and gun for docs.....I’m with you on recording sound after scenes for shorts. Didn’t know if you could somehow run 2 xlrs into the camera.
I think the only way I see it working would be if you use a shotgun like the Sennheiser MKE600 which can be using TRS and then a lav via XLR or vice versa. But you would have to test if using TRS gets you worse noise level. I would go a different way though and use a lav recorder on talent and a shotgun mic because it gives you an advantage to have everything recorded all the time, even when the camera isn't shooting. That's a safety for me. Otherwise you might miss what someone is saying. For me that's a crucial thing that the closest mic to the talent is always on, but then the shotgun is on the camera for safety or when spontaneous situations happen with more than one person.
Ok, now I get it....you are right, the Lectrosonics pdr is a game changer and then I will just run the MKE 600 on camera. Once again, I really appreciate your channel. Thanks again for the help!
and btw, Soundly is amazing!
Please give a link on your rig (behind your back), does it work?
It's great! www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1282660-REG/easyrig_erig_minimax_easyrig_minimax_camera_support.html
What monitor are you using?
Got the GH5 over this, did I make a mistake? I mainly do film and commercial work by the way.
Hehe maybe, I have both and even though the GH5 is a good camera in most situations. It has a weird sharpness and de-noising thing going on at higher ISO. Making it look unnatural. And then the format is also a bit of pain in the ass in terms of workflow. However it's a camera that creates great images, but both cameras have their downsides. For vlogging I don't think it's easy to only have a pocket. But for commerical work it would make more sense to me at least. I've shot three commercials on it over the Ursa since I got it.
Your comment on the LCD made me think, wouldn't it be nice if you could detach the LCD completely from the camera and it had a built-in HDMI input, power jack and 1/4" 20 thread on the bottom and side. Something like that since it is a decent size touch display that will be mostly wasted when using a rig, which I imagine most people buying this camera will use, and needing an external monitor.
I think with time it's going to be wireless. That I'd love. But I think BM could build a new version of video assist with touch screen as well. As I understand it they could do it via the USB port. I'd really like a touch screen and DJI has pulled that off with their clearsky controller so it's def possible :D
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom I was just thinking last night that it should be wireless as well. Put a popular Sony battery input on the back when detached with BT connectivity. That would make it both portable if needed for RnG/gimbal work and also useful when decking it out as a full cinema rig.
Great incites into the camera! I've been watching all your videos lately, I like your style! I wanted to ask you something, since I cudnt find any info about this...Is it possible to shoot long exposure timelapses anyway? I've ordered my BMPCC4k over a month ago and its yet to come :(
Thanks! Hmm don't think so. I think you could play around with the angle/shutter but it only goes down to around 10 I think. so it's not really long exposure and I'm not sure how it would affect a still. Only tried it when testing noise.
Awesome video !
Can we saw somewhere what you actually shoot with in the snowstorm ?
Also did it managed to work nicely even in cold condition ? ( I'm wondering what camera to get for my skiing video this season )
Thanks mate! I can't show the storm until the campaign is out late 2019 HAHAHA that's the issue :D But will for sure do a follow up with that campaign cause it's pretty awesome. But it actually has zero issues with the cold. Wasn't super cold but very windy and lot's of snow. I would be a bit cautious with snow though since it's not weather sealed. Probably would work for skiing as long as you don't drop it, but often you do :D
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom On no, too bad, yeah the weather sealing is also an issue...
Maybe i'll have to get something else, for now i've used the Sony a6500 and the a7rii..
try the GH5S think that one's super underrated with new firmware etc. Only issue I have with the GH5 is that it's not light sensitive. And the format is a bit stupid because you can't preview the files in finder.
what aspect ratio have you used in the video? 2: 35: 1 ??
What lens do you use at 11:23 ? the image is so good
Great video! I mounted a zacuto z-finder evf on the top of my pocket 4k pointing upwards, makes a good handheld rig. The loupe on the z-finder flips up and you get a 3.2 inch monitor too.
Sounds like a great solution, have an alphatron that’s similar but insanely bulky. Can you detach the Evf from the z-finder?
would you let me borrow it to see if i want to purchase?
What camera was used to record the footage right at the beginning of this video?
Gh5!
Wow looks amazing? Grades? Lut?
I don't agree that it should show the scroll wheel value on the external monitor as the internal display... I think they should change it so the scroll wheel only change the top of the screen value, and highlight which setting we are currently modifying. My issue with it is that you are loosing histogram output when changing values
Yeah one thing they could do is just to make whatever is being selected red or something to make it clear. But now you're pretty dependent on the touch screen to know what you're doing.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom haha... I did touch my monitor screen as a reflex a few time... We quickly get used to it being touch screen ! That probably going to be in the list of feature for newer camera and monitor to have a touchscreen usb feed to the camera.
Haha me too. Annoying! But the USB port on this one should def be possible to do a touch feed through?
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Yes ! They could actually accept any USB interface in there if they wanted to... Just require create a driver to support it (It probably running linux in the camera, so the drivers already exist for most things). They could do a USB-C Viewfinder, Ethernet, wifi, or connect your phone via USB for LTE live streaming... Want more Audio input, connect a external audio interface. Ok you WILL need to use external power because of the powerdraw as well. It all things they could do... It limited only by the CPU of the camera and the USB-C bus speed. But will they spend time on any of these items ? I don't think so... They have a lot of work on the UI I would like them to do before any of those things. For the touchscreen feature, they might actually do it if they release a new monitor with that capability. I''m actually a bit confused at how thing work at BM... I mean, they gave us a pretty amazing camera for the price... They didn't have to give us a Powered XLR input... They could have made it an external dongle. They could have got rid of the audio in/out port and also depend on external USB-C interface like on mobile phone these days and try to reduce the cost(I actually wouldn't have minded it). But they gave us pretty much everything we wanted ! There is a lot of stuff I wish was changed in the software, it it remain to be seen if they will impress us with their update !
Yeah but they did make the videoassist v1 with both SDI and HDMI that nobody did. So I guess they could just take a jump and make a touch screen v2 :D Big hope for christmas
hey North! whats the batteryplate that you use called?
It's actually a DIY solution. I took a cheeseplate and put velcro on both sides and then on the batteries as well. Added a nato rail quick release thing to the cheeseplate to make it easy to add. Works well on a bigger rig but not for smaller handheld work
Great stuff, brother! Thanks for sharing!
Why dont you check the spectra hd evf it's a monitor? with a loope and can be detached
Looks too much like my old alphatron. Was super bulky and heavy compared to say a smallhd 502 etc.
If you connect the XLR to the camera isn't already in sync without the time code?
If you only use one camera mic but I use a two Lectrosonics PDR recorders, sometimes a external tascam recorder as well as several cameras.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom ah okii I understand 😅
Hey Johnny, did you know about the Ikan EVF35 ($299 on B&H)? It's basically the same monitor you have + a viewfinder. I bet you can buy a 3inch simple viewfinder and attach it to your monitor as well. The other low cost option is to get the GRID 5.0 viewfinder ($241) originally made for the bmcc! I would love to hear your thoughts on both solutions. Take care! - Renzo Forero.
Thanks renzo! Been looking at those! I think the grid makes most sense because it can support the smallest form factor when you need it. But maybe you have to have a second monitor anyways and you want the touch screen accessible, then the evf35 makes sense as well. The screen had some trouble in the cold though, so I wouldn’t trust it as a professional solution. It’s just very small and convenient
Fortunately for me, I rarely travel that up north! I currently live in France and before that in Florida and Peru. All of those places are rarely below 0, so I'm leaning towards the Ikan, I love how you could place it anywhere and move it 90 degrees :)
Thank you for pushing me forward.
@11:10 best quote of the video haha. Going to upgrade from point and shoot land to the big boys and your work makes the mirco 4/3 world very compelling. Keep up the awesome content!
Thanks mate! Yeah I think as long as you like small cameras this one is worth your time
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom ya between this and the GH5 (easier on the budget used) makes decisions difficult. Thanks for showing that sensor size doesnt make the video/you don't HAVE to get apsc or full frame.
Most people came here for an analysis on BMPCC 4k
not to get diabetes from the cuteness.
Hehe
Iceland looks amazing - snow heaven. Thanks for the video. really enjoyed watching.
Thanks mate! Happy you enjoyed it. And Iceland for sure amazing!
BEAUTIFUL! just amazing setting location and testing
Thanks mate!
Thank you for all the insight to this camera I have one and I am very pleased with it, I also plan to buy a Mini Ursa pro 4.6K as well later this year. thanks again.
Thanks! 4.6K should drop even more in price soon I think. I can't imagine why they wouldn't update that camera now that they have the pocket which is as good in many ways.
How did you know you were in focus while recording yourself with the bmpcc4k?
The good old selfie hand trick. Hold out your hand in front of the lens and focus, will be the same distance as holding the camera towards yourself
@@Jonnyvonwallstromhah that's actually so simple but brilliant, thank you so much.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom I'm currently binging your videos and learning so much. I'm thinking about trading in my Canon 800d for Panasonic g80/85 for 4k & stabilization, but am worried about vlogging with inconsistent autofocus, so using manual seems doable when you explain it like that. Thank you
Yeah for sure it's just something you get used to. I feel more confident with manual. If it fails I know who is to blame as well which forces you to get better. Auto always give you someone else to blame :D
I always enjoy your videos. Thanks for posting. Also, I guess I suck lol because I can't never get good cinematic videos out of the BMPCC 4K, maybe is because I keep shooting in DNG Raw. Any tips on getting good footage out of this camera. Also I already invested on a RØDE VideoMic Go what do you recommend doing to get better quality sound with that mic?
Thanks TubeSilva! Awesome to hear! Haha, it comes down to grading it as well. And how to use light :D Check out the latest live stream or the cinematic lighting video I did last week for more on that. I would say it mainly comes down to using light in the right way. It can also help to use a LUT in camera so you see what it looks like graded rather than log. I would not recommend using that mic with the camera if you want quality audio. This video explains more about the audio in the camera: th-cam.com/video/m6m4f_-mBDs/w-d-xo.html
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Awesome, thank you for the info!
Yooo this is sick!!
Do you have problem with red channel clipping?
Hmm I did notice that on some footage while grading but haven't seen any negative impact of it. Any bad things you've encountered from it?
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom color science 4 has it.
th-cam.com/video/HIhKEZVQJOM/w-d-xo.html
Pretty hard to see with the compressed format for me but I was getting the impression that this is a bit correlated to why I feel like the cinema dng isn't as clean as it should be. Not sure but I feel like you're getting some falling apart of the image as well? loss of detail and blocks of noise then not noise in your video? I did that with noise reduction as well and thought it looked a lot worse when I did removal vs when the prores noise reduction algorithm did it. The prores files look like a clean raw image while the cinema dng looks like a compressed noise redacted one.
As long as you have a camera that's all that matters, another great video for play dude 🇮🇪✊
Very true mate!
Great and super helpful review. Interested to know more about the timecode sync solution you mentioned
Will do some on that!
Deity told me when I was buying their D3 Pro mic that came with 3.5mm TRRS cable that XLR port has the same pre amp as 3.5mm, cause I was asking for them to sell the 3.5mm to xlr adapter separately from their boom mic kit.
Might be true, but if the mic doesn't input enough DB into the camera you will get higher noise pattern. My guess is that that's what's happening if they use same pre-amp. But even bigger issue for me is that any TRS mic is crap if you compare to the Sennheiser 416 or even the Sennheiser mke600 (which also has TRS). You have physics against you. A shotgun mic needs length in order to pick up more focused audio. I have the D3 Pro mic to test out and it's a good on camera mic. For what it is. But very hard to compare to the XLR mics in terms of pro quality. I find myself just using the internal mics rather than putting the D3 on. But when I plan things to shoot I use the sanken Cos 11-D lav instead of on camera mic.
Battery solutions? Anyone have a solution as I have been using Smallhd gocus with dummy battery and Sony 750 and it lasts 50min. Is it better to use Canon Lp6 batteries? Thanks
I think I've found my solution now! Haven't been able to put it together yet. But I feel the best way if you're not powering off of the ronin-s for instance. Is to do it through a monitor or a battery mounted to a monitor. There are mainly three alternatives as I see it. 1. Using a monitor with a Sony BP-U plate (then having a SWIT battery with D-Tap on that battery plate). 2. Using a monitor with a Sony L series battery plate with a SWIT battery with a 12v out on it. 3. Using a monitor with a 12v power output that has for instance a Sony L series battery. I think which one is up to what you have already. Feelworld is sending me their FW568 which seems to be a cheap alternative. Not sure how the screen holds up yet but that would work with both alternative 2 and 3.
Creative North i mean 50min is ok I guess for a SmallHD Focus monitor and running the BMPCC4K. I have 6 Np-F750 batteries and I can shoot all day with it. Have no problems but thinking that the SmallHD Focus says it outputs 7.2V and 2.6A I am not sure if this is the best solution. Maybe just buying a bunch of Canon Batteries would be better?? Honestly though really not having any issues with this setup. What have you been doing? Just Canon LP6?
Hmm I think you need 12v for the pocket but not 100% sure. I've been doing LP6 for handheld but if I've been on an easyrig I've used the SWIT BP-U with D-tap mounted to a cheeseplate with velcro. Simple but really functional solution. The cheeseplate then has a nato rail mount so it's quick to mount.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom This is really useful info. Didn't realize there is a monitor out there that can also power this camera.
Just looked at specs for the FW568. It says it is 8.4V output NOT 12V
Amazing video, going to start doing narrative work soon and want to get a good b camera for my second shot and the pocket really looks like it’s it. My main is of course the ursa mini pro. Thank you for this! I’m about to spend a lot of money so videos like this help me with spending it the right way.
Thanks Gil Rios! Awesome to hear! I often leave the ursa home because pocket is so damn good. Image quality is similar but it's more light sensitive. Now you have some limitations because it's so small but that could just as easily make it qualify into benefits as well. I love it. If I were to only one camera it would be the pocket 4k for sure.
TH-cam's compression, especially with 1080p video does not do justice for the quality of the 4k BMPCC's footage.
Very true! Unbelievable when you watch the latest video about the Ursa. The last clip which is pocket 4k is a low light test. The uploaded clip looks horrible compared to what the footage actually look like in the grade. I feel like TH-cam struggle a lot with underexposed or low-key footage.
How is it better than your Ursa? I'm curious
Smaller is better, same quality and it’s more light sensitive. After that it comes down to which camera is best for which project.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom yeah I've heard from a few DPs that in raw format this camera has closer to 14 stops of dynamic range
Well doesn't really matter if they look, behave and grade the same. Not so interested in paper spec. I look at real world testing for conclusions. And from my experience having both cameras the ursa under performs in terms of cleanest image. Even if it has a tiny micro latitude gain that doesn't matter if it creates worst looking image. And it does above 400 iso. Up to 400 I'd say it's negligible in the difference. Plus any DP that needs that extra latitude should probably revise that title. The only time you would be in need of that if when you don't know how to expose a shot :D In raw and especially blackmagic RAW ursa outperforms though. But in prores HQ they're very close, and once pocket gets braw it will be evened out.
Does Netflix accept this camera? I know that it's not listed on their site but doesn't this beast meet all the requirements?
Based on what I read and saw before, they made some exception for documentary.
If you do a lot of docus I highly recommand to get a B4 mount for the Mini Pro and a nice Leica or Fujinon B4 lens. Its a little hassle to fix the backfocus with the shim kits going like try-error try-error try-error try-error try-error ... BUT in the end you get a horny Parfocal lens of wide focal length - I use a Fujinon 14-144 - though keep in mind that you have to use a croped sensor. Ursa Mini Pro: best camera on the market price/value/quality wise! Salute man. By the way, would love to go on a shot with you, maybe some day.
I knew with that opener that this was going to be a great video. Thank you.
hehe good!
LOVE this video and your take on the P4k!
Thanks FIlmTalk With The Judd Brothers! Awesome to hear! Also I appreciate the audio breakdown Curtis did of the camera as well! Recommend it when I get asked about the audio capabilities :D
11:09 - 11:16 _"You suck"_ Hahahaha
Thanks for this camera tested review! It's everything we need to know.
Also, where can I get that Husqy chainsaw?
Great to hear! Haha think you can get it at kids stores!
You just showed me the video I needed to see, know I just need to start doing my projects with a whole new level! Thank you for your opinion.
Thanks Cortos BrunoMelo! Awesome to hear!
Anybody know when blackmagic raw will come out?
it's out for the ursa but I'm hoping in the next update for the pocket. Which should arrive soon.
is its work for Netflix
What are all those lights that you travel with?
Have you done any videos of those BBS Pipeline lights?
I love blackmagic, all my films for the past few years have been shot on them. But I cannot get over the form factor on the bmpcc 4K. It just doesn’t seem to take itself seriously lol.
Haha I can admit it looks weird. But in my hand I've got zero trouble with the build. The main problem I have with it is the screen. Amazing screen that can't be used because it just sits there, looking pretty. Useless when you can't tilt it.
@@Jonnyvonwallstrom Yet somehow the a7rII screen is worse lol. Why be able to move a screen up and down but not out to the side? It gives the illusion of functionality XD.
hahahahaha so true!
Did you happen to find a loupe with diopter yet?
I guess you rarely run into issues with camera overheating huh? Seriously, love your film here and found it a breath of fresh air in the TH-cam assembly line of camera reviews.