What Is "Anime Canon" In Boruto?
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Boruto: Naruto Next Generations is a Japanese manga series written by Ukyō Kodachi and Masashi Kishimoto, and illustrated by Mikio Ikemoto. It's anime counterpart is animated by Studio Pierrot.
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This is a really good nuanced take on a topic that people get very heated over. What I will say though, having watched every episode of the anime, is that I disagree somewhat with the Reddit post in the video saying that anime canon only ever affects the arc it's presented in. That's true at times, especially in the anime canon arcs following the Isshiki arc; however, many of the first arcs (Academy Entrance, Mist Field Trip, Graduation Exams, Mitsuki's Will, Jugo Curse Mark, Hozuki Castle) do actually build the story that is later shown in the manga adapted arcs. They've changed a lot of Mitsuki and Sumire's dialogue in the anime adaptations of manga material to better match their anime character development as well
Agreed, the arcs prior to 2021 certainly affect a lot more of the overall story and characters.
I think the whole issue is because of Kodachi, as he is responsible for the script in the Boruto manga and is considered the author of the manga, and he himself is responsible for the anime, and since he has this authority, he can give the studio the authority to add and it is considered Canon because he is supervising it, only loosely, and it seems that he drew a long plan To increase the number of episodes, they even add things to the anime Canon and they are used in the manga, and the closest example is the high-pressure Rasengan, so you are forced to watch the anime Canon. but after Kodachi left the manga and the studio, I think things will improve and the focus will end on increasing the number of episodes And manga consumption with the least number of episodes. I'm dying to have them do a remake of the anime to make it accurate to their manga now they have enough content for 50 episodes or to have several movies on platforms like Netflix.
well anime with only manga chapters would be completely basic, no world building, no side cast, only action and action. It has many other problems too. And anime canon arcs like kara actuation arc are very good and important to fill the holes. I agree most of it is straight garbage but there are still important ones
@@drunksanta3052 The manga does not have an adventure classification, and I do not know how world building became an argument as if it were a primary element for any story! Building the world comes after telling the story and is within the scope of the plot, because if the story requires branching out into several directions in the world of the story, here you must make the places good and have a story that affects the main story. A simple comparison with games: There is an open world game and there is a linear game. They all have world building, but the open world must have multiple and interesting areas and have stories, missions, etc... Linear games only need to tell the story with its built world, even if the story takes place in one city, and even if I know There are other cities that are not essential to the plot, so there is no need to be distracted
Yes, when some of the manga content is cut to put it in a filler here, it becomes a problem, which is forcing the person to watch the fillers, Sarada’s third tomoe, and Team 7’s knowledge that Mitsuki is a genetically modified human, etc... Their plan succeeded in increasing the number of episodes, but they lost a viewer of the anime. @@drunksanta3052
@@Nawaf_Rwell you kinda explained the purpose of the anime. Manga is an incomolete linear game while anime is a complete open world game. Just choose one and forget the other, that's how you should consume boruto.
This is actually a REALLY great video with a ton of research and good editing. Great job! 👍
Thank you! I appreciate it :)
It's simple. Anime canon is stuff that is canon to the anime. Sumire in the anime has Nue, in the manga she has yet to even show the ability to summon anything at all. It doesn't contradict anything within the mangas own canon because she has never fought in the manga and was never stated to have it. If she pulls it out next chapter it's also not a contradiction either because she was never stated to not have it.
As far as I know they've been good on not contradicting each other ( manga and anime) outside of Boruto keeping Sasukes headband in the anime after momo and then getting it again after isshiki.
Which does mean that considering the Manga storyline which the Anime is made after almost 80% of the things did never happen in the Manga itself.
"I doubt the Catholic Church was going around calling any text they didn't approve of as filler".
Except they kinda did. Except instead of roasting you on an internet forum for disagreeing with their canon they literally roasted you on a stake.
LMAO very true. It was a different kind of roast
Fr 😂 there are many filler in bible 😂😂
Like
Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ibn Sirach 😂😂wtf😂
An interesting thing about the statement from Ikemoto is that in Japan they don't really care about "filler" or "canon", its not really something that comes up at all. Meaning that lets say if Tite Kubo was talking about the Bleach TV anime, he would almost certainly describe its filler in the exact same way. Yet everyone knows that something like the Bount arc is totally filler. Also, people often like to lump the Ghost Incident, School Trip, and Graduation Exams arc in with other "anime canon" like the Mitsuki arc, when this is not the case. These three arcs in particular have had direct input from the manga staff, including both Kodachi and Ikemoto. Not only this, but all three arcs were uniquely novelized and paired with new original illustrations by Ikemoto, something none of the other arcs experienced. Outside of these three arcs, that were also anime original, I am hesitant to refer to anything else that wasn't in the manga as canon at all, despite a lot of the community doing so. Lastly, I think the whole "anime canon" narrative that's spun by Boruto fans honestly is more of a detriment to the series' already low reputation. Because if everything is canon and needs to be watched, then a bunch of quite frankly bad content is considered to be on par in story value to the manga adaptation episodes. In Naruto or Bleach, this low quality anime original content is always known to be irrelevant, and people rate the series accordingly. With Boruto, the "anime canon" narrative is played up so much that the series is rated with it in mind, and gets completely destroyed as a result. If you presented the Boruto anime to someone while excluding any and all irrelevant content, I find it hard to believe many would think its anything below decent. However, we know the series gets unfairly treated as if it were the Anti-Christ, and I think this anime canon narrative contributes to it quite a bit, along with good old fashioned bandwagoning of course. Anyways, that was my essay, I hope I get a good grade.
You get a fantastic grade on your essay sir
I agree that boruto in the future should cut down on the amount of anime cannon ep's but it is something that is needed. The boruto anime is the full story of the manga which is usually rushed. The anime gives arcs the chance to breathe and to digest whatever's happening within the plot, it also shows you things that the Manga skipped which gives the viewers more time with the characters and world building which then allows them to Care More whenever the status quo is changed. Also the ghost incident literally has sumire's whole character introduction in it, so that has to be Cannon, in the field trip arc they used moves that they had never used before that will be used in the future so Cannon. the reason that there are bandwagons and some people who defend every single episode in boruto is because there are people who discredit every episode that wasn't in the manga and tell people to skip episodes that give permanent new moves, permanent character introductions,permanent characterdevelopment and Etc.
@@redd-jb- Let's be real though, most of these arcs do not matter in the slightest. Does the painfully long Mitsuki arc need to be watched just because it introduces some random Kara outers who do nothing as well as change one line of dialogue in the Mujina Bandits arc? I'm a massive fan of the series, like to a ridiculous degree, and even I had to drop that arc. Yes, I agree on all the Academy arc though, I've argued in favor of those for over 5 years now.
@@MidosujiSen I think the misuki arc Arc is good for his character development but it could definitely be shortened to a few episodes long. And Obviously we shouldn't have arcs like the Chocho arc and etc.
4:44 It doesn’t look like anyone else has said this in the comments, but I’m sorry if I missed something and someone else has already explained this. If you ever have an issue like this again, fandom wikis maintain a full archive of every past iteration of their pages.
You can view and compare them by clicking the 3 dots in the top right corner (on the same line as the title, not the ones in the site-wide heading) and clicking on “view history”.
The lines you quoted are present in the earliest version of that page. The page also included details such as a terribly explained exception for when something written by Kishimoto or Kodachi should be considered a lower canon, an explanation of handling retcons, and some other lower forms of canon. They later added that as of the author statements in SJ #46 of 2017 (where chapter 17 came out), they considered info from Boruto’s anime to be K-canon unless contradicted, because there was a statement saying that the chapter was tied into the anime.
This was all removed in February 2022.
It's like the authenticity of food. It doesn't matter if it is authentic/traditional. If it's good, it's good. If it's bad, it's bad.
i want to know if specifically sumire's attack against the village and summoning nue is anime canon or not because i really liked her because of that and if it was just a regular filler i would just throw her away tbh
Parallel stories but intersecting at the end?
Soooo.... filler?
Naruto had many missions after Sasuke left, but at the end he left with Jiraiya to train like he did in the manga. I guess all those missions are anime canon.
Especially because thunder guy was canonized to be one of the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist, that makes all filler episodes of Naruto anime canon. Same with Sumire being in the manga meaning Pirates of the Caribbean arc and Kawaki having tea parties and hanging out with kids arc are canon.
That's their argument, Sumire is in the manga and field trip was mentioned ONCE meaning Sasuke and Boruto going to the past via magic turtle is canon.
Thats why when i recommended boruto to friends the only anime original arcs i recommend are the academy, kara actuation, and the prison arc since they directly tie into the manga. The rest u could literally not watch it and it wouldn’t matter
The manga is condensed and the anime is allowed to flesh out the story obviously it would be nice if the author mentioned something from the anime like boruto meeting Garaga or defeating orishiki just even a simple mention of it would make anime cannon more legit, and I think the author should take the time to validate the anime because both are enjoyable.
Honestly the anime has left a lot of room for the manga to do with boruto and his side characters not really needing to flesh denki and co out in pages because a couple episodes sprinkled throughout.
Only thing I can think that the anime accomplished something that the manga reference is the compression rasengan but if I remember that was a boroshiki feet
I really wish that the authors working on the work could communicate or the author of the Manga watched the anime and incorporated more anime references in the manga.
One example of the anime doing a much better job was Naruto hinatas relationship because the anime was given three arcs to flesh out in part one in the “dead periods” and two of those arcs where entertaining if they just referenced once that hinata had protective 8 trigrams then they could have used flashbacks from the filler in the movie rather than referencing the same three things leaving critics to say the relationship was rushed when it was set up very much in part one.
Boruto feels like the Dragonball GT of the franchise. Almost the entirety of it is made by someone other than the author. Some of it may be good, but that doesn't change the fact that it was made by someone else.
When are we going to see the anime only characters join the manga is the only thing I’m curious about. 😕
Denki is "manga canon". He was mentioned in one of the volumes (i believe it was the one where Borushiki was introduced)
Sumire was anime canon character as well and she was adopted into the manga. In the AO arc Boruto referrs back to the Hidden Mist class trip arc too. And many of the Anime canon arcs are considered totally canon due being adapted from a spin-off manga or a novell, like the Jougan arc from ep 1-15.
Not enough space and time that’s why the anime took over fleshing out the characters
@@yungprince8375 Nah, Boruto anime is there to make them money.
No, filler is not there to flesh out characters, filler is there to keep the anime going so they make tons of money off of merchandise and shit.
DEFINITIVELY Canon 😊
The catholic church did go around calling other texts filler, hence the crusades
In a way... You're not wrong lol
Filler is simply something that can be cut out and it wouldn't ruin the story structure. Like how they did with Dragon Ball Kai they removed a lot of filler episodes.The problem with filler in anime is the concept of time. You can fluff around with time yet that canon can be like nope there was no way XYZ could have happened because what happened in episode 30 and 40+ happened minutes after each other. Ep 31-39 are filler. Also another issue is that filler is having arcs that overall end up being ironically non-canon. This is reinforce how some people feel about a creator's writing style when development for all characters ends up "non-canon" due to events happening had no way of happening within their own story.
Completely agree
how the hell are these episodes filler if they literally are an adaptation of canon light novels?
@@Renanzito The light novels came long after the anime actually. It is not an adaptation.
@@Leafcane lightnovels have always been considered canon, which makes anime canonical too, in fact, since the beginning of the work the producers have already made it clear that the entire anime is canonical, it is no wonder that only in the anime there is development for the characters since the manga doesn't do that
@@Renanzito Most people don't even consider Naruto light novels and data books canon because they all have tons of contradictions. And again, the Boruto novels were made after the anime already created the story. Boruto's anime is *not* an adaptation of the light novels. You have incorrect information my guy
Considering Sarada is still a Genin after the timeskip nothing besides the things shown in the manga happened in Boruto and thus is filler or practically an animated fanfic. Unless there is something shown in the Two Blue Vortex Anime that will probably be made considering a demotion for some reason or her suddenly still being a Chunin that would pracically mean that the Boruto Anime has about as much to do with the source material as the Castlevania cartoon and the games.
The description at the end actually sounds good to me. If it makes sense in the manga it actually did happen unless it gets shown as non-canon afterwards as with Sarada's promotion.
If the author never states anime filler to be canon then it isn't. If someone wants to use it to be pull feats in vs battles which is where this sort of thing matters beyond respecting the authors original vision then it needs to specified or you will basically be laughed at.
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What really annoys me is when people online start trying to theorize what’s going to happen in the near future in the manga and pretty much every single piece of evidence they present is some piece of anime canon nonsense. What they are failing to realize is that in the world of the manga you really have to operate from the position that none of these things happened. Or if we are to assume they did happen they simply were not relevant enough to ever once he mentioned in the actual story lol.
The only argument towards there being validity to the anime canon is Sumire being added to the manga after first being introduced in the anime. But otherwise... I completely agree. You really can't assume it's ever going to be relevant to the manga's story.
@@Leafcane My man, Sumire being added to the manga doesn't make EVERY god damn filler canon or even her arc canon, it just means the character has been canonized.
The seven swordsman guy from filler arc in OG Naruto was canonized later by Kishimoto, does that mean that his story in the anime is canon or by him being canonized every filler is automatically canon?
Your arguments are faulty.
Toneri cannot become a fodder. He just an otsutsuki in name only, not a true otsutsuki, he's a moon human not an alien god.
Ok makes sense thanks,
Anime canon is a lie the studio doesn't even believe anymore. While I am happy to have watched the early episodes of Boruto before Momoshiki attacked, I will never recommend an Anime Canon episode after that. Once you know everybody's 4 syllable Japanese name and personality it becomes filler.
Anime Canon is an Canon Event
filler is only a filler if you consider it we can also say all the fillers in which boruto was messing with his friends helped him to develop character in the anime which helped him in the future fights this way the filler is also canon you just need to change your pov
Filler is simply an episode that can be removed with absolutely no change on the story or character development.
@@thechugg4372 yeah thats what is said but it depends on you that what do you consider as character development
@@thechugg4372 Filler is everything that is not in the source material, aka the manga in this case.
You people are worse than gender police, changing definitions of words and shi.
Anime canon is glorified filler. People can view it as canon if they want but to me that’s what it is.
All the anime is treated as canon. The examples brought up of possible contradictions usually have an explanation or a time window. Like the Funato happening way before Code starts making his move because he has to walk to Boro’s base, Boruto still being alive in the water not being as injured as when he fought Boro, and Kawaki making friends gives him more to protect than just Naruto. The characterization of Kawaki as a cold killing machine lessens the meaning of his statement about shinobi being those who dye first. Also the scene where Shikadai helps Kawaki out during his panic because of dynamic built up in the anime. Most of Boruto’s friends really can’t stand Kawaki.
Boruto has anime canon because they fill in the gaps of the manga or other stories that occur in the universe.
the answer is that all the anime is canon
If it's not in the manga it's filler, no if or buts about it.
I agree that boruto in the future should cut down on the amount of anime cannon ep's but it is something that is needed. The boruto anime is the full story of the manga which is usually rushed. The anime gives arcs the chance to breathe and to digest whatever's happening within the plot, it also shows you things that the Manga skipped which gives the viewers more time with the characters and world building which then allows them to Care More whenever the status quo is changed. For ex the ghost incident has sumire's whole character introduction in it, so that has to be Cannon, in the field trip arc they used moves that they had never used before that will be used in the future so Cannon. this is the reason that there are bandwagons and some people who defend every single episode in boruto because there are people like you who discredit every episode that wasn't in the manga and tell people to skip episodes that give permanent new moves, permanent character introductions,permanent characterdevelopment and etc.
@@redd-jb- You're saying that Boruto's Pirate Adventures to find One Piece arc is needed? It doesn't even make sense, Boruto was on lockdown after he took Sasuke's eye out. How the fuck can someone so dangerous move around freely?
You're saying that Kawaki and Himawari Tea drinking party arc is needed? That's not how Kawaki is supposed to be, he's supposed to be a fucked up kid, not someone who goes to pre school and has tea parties with little kids.
Squid Game arc is needed? For what exactly? What did it contribute?
Expansions of canon arcs like Kara Actuation and shit, that's cool, I respect that.
But the rest is just filler and nothing else.
Boruto is only 13% filler
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