Orwellianpro Well at Queensboro Plaza, the lines do share a platform, but do not stop at the same track. That’s why there is a separate track for each.
AWESOMEBROGAMERSF5 2 Same station, same platforms, but different tracks. The car widths are why you never see a 7 train on the N train side, and vice versa.
AWESOMEBROGAMERSF5 2 The yellow barriers are there to prevent 7 trains from stopping there, since the platform is longer than the trains themselves. It also prevents people from falling into the tracks.
@@smoochez187 True as well. However, the W is considered the N as well, except that these N trains go to Whitehall instead of the N terminal at Coney Island due to lack of space. Both lines are scheduled as one N service in the work schedules.
Just remember that a express train might skip stops while a local train doesn’t! Most trains are local trains so you don’t have to worry about it skipping your stop.
And for those that may not know, you know its express if its a diamond shape vs the circle (circles are local). However some trains may "go express" for a stop or two to get situated back in its proper timetable (due to delays and other factors)
Yes. Meanwhile here in Mexico our subway system is simple with only 12 lines and in Mexico City there are more than 20 million people. Here the subway is property of the government and it's also very cheap, because of that I'm not surprised that we have a subway like that. Sorry for bad english.
Andres Niño Mexico City does not have 20 million people. You're talking about the whole metropolitan area. Mexico city proper has 8,851,000 as of 2010. Look it up
@@JOHNYBOYZeven the most bare bones editors like windows movie maker can empathize narration. Computers were fully capable of doing stuff like that for decades.
+William Beresford Once again, fuck off. Your comment contributes absolutely nothing of value to society. You added nothing to the conversation and educated no one. Not everyone is born in nyc. Nyc has a lot of immigrants and people from other states that have only ever used cars. The driver's license manual is also easy to read, but a lot of people can't pass their test.
Always be wary of whether you're catching a local or express train. Also be wary whether those services run express 24/7, or even if a local service doesn't run late at night. Some services may have multiple destinations in one direction, so make sure you get on the correct Downtown (southbound) A, Uptown (northbound) E, Uptown 5 or Uptown N -- they don't all head to Lefferts Blvd, Parsons/Archer, Dyre Ave, or Astoria-Ditmars respectively. When entering a local-only station, make sure you're using the correct entrance, otherwise you may have to travel a few stops in the opposite of your intended direction, to get to an express station where the mezzanine allows you to go to the other side.
Also, before 1985, some lines (mainly local services) used double letters. AA - K (discontinued 1988) CC- C GG - G LL - L QB - Q RR - R SS - S (SS used to mean shuttles, S meant specials)
It’s good that the branches are also coded with numbers and letters, here in London they just name different destinations or sometimes add (via x) to indicate different route branches within the same line which quite confusing sometimes
Northern line is really complex, with two central (Bank/Charing Cross) and two northern branches (Edgware/High Barnet), that can be combined in 4 ways (a northern and a central branch). The Metropolitan line has express services (called "fast" trains) with no separate numbers either. I think the London Underground should introduce additional route numbers.
@@LunaDragofelis changed my mind😅, destination name is more intuitive and memorable and easily found on the tube map. And the express service is ONLY on the metropolitan line and ONLY during peak hours and ONLY on the weekdays. These systems is also aligned😜with the route naming system on the national rail services.
Actually the other two at both IND trains since the FS is a part of the Sixth Avenue lines, and the RS is a part of the Eighth Avenue Lines. (As far as I know at least)
wow, i never thought of any of this! it makes sense now. Although i have noticed that all the #-ed lines have the 3 door trains. i thought the letters and #s were randomly selected
Yeah, basically the #-ed lines use different trains because before all the transit companies merged, IRT made their own tunnels smaller so that the competition can’t bring their own trains in their tunnels.
for those of you that do not know about the nyc subway system: -It was the first to develop a 4-track subway system. This allows express and local trains to run on separate tracks for customers to get to locations quicker and easier. -There are many subway car prototypes that are for the BMT, IRT, and IND. -The NYC subway system has an interesting history and features. You should learn more about it. Lol
They could just run local trains at a higher speed with slower dwell times at stations like London. I was so surprised when i saw guards on the subway, its a metro system. Meanwhile in europe, we've got automatic trains, driverless trains, trains every 100seconds etc. Im not gonna lie having 4 tracks is clever, especially if a train brakes down etc but europe is way ahead with public transport.
People are saying this is confusing but if you LIVE in NYC or at least know how to ride the trains, this could actually teach some neat stuff. For example, the numbered and lettered ones represent three different companies that use to make up the MTA, in which the letters A-G represent one company and the other letters another different company. But that aside, you May think the MTA is quite confusing, but to me I think it’s mostly because- 1. The Map is less of a diagram and more of a map. It’s intended purpose is to yes, tell you the stops but also seemingly tell you where places are relative to landmarks around the city and such (if that makes sense.) 2. And 2, the constant changing and fixing of tracks (especially on weekends where kids aren’t typically in the subway.) So, to me at least, I think that pretty much if you got the MTA app, you’re good on updates ahead of hand (so you know if they will get in the way- in which many will not, unless it’s in Manhattan or northern Brooklyn- (like Atlantic Barclays Center).)
FBI AGENT it was, it was a r62 transfer to the 6 train, the 6 train needs r62, the IRT 6 line runs better with the r62’s EDIT: when I said it was I mean like it was out of service.
Number lines can use letter lines to get to yards because the number cars are narrower. But the reverse will never happen because the letter cars are too wide to fit into a number line platform and will cause damage.
0:52 “…and dark gray for the shuttles on 42nd Street in Manhattan, and Franklin Avenue in Brooklyn.” The Rockaway Park Shuttle in Queens: Am I a joke to you?
they are also know as divisions the 1234567S(42nd street shuttle) is A Division and ABCDEFGJLMNQRWZ S(Franklin Avenue & Rockaway Park Shuttles) is the B Division.
The lines didn't have the alphanumeric nomenclature until 1967 when the Chrystie Street Connection opened, blurring the distinction between BMT and IND.
The beginning doesn't actually say why they are the color they are just what route they use. She made it sound like they'd explain why blue is used for 8th ave or purple for the flushing line.
shamyri yea you should be if you don’t here’s proof go to Queensboro Plaza there’s a 7 And 5 and a N and Q there all mixed up there BMT IND I just don’t get it
In Vancouver: Blue- Expo Line Yellow- Millennium Line Yellow with green- Millennium-Evergreen Extension Teal- Canada Line Green by itself- Rapid Bus line Purple- West Coast Express
for the 7 train there is a diamond for express service. Besides the 7, you just have to know that different letters and numbers individually. For instance, the D always runs express along central park west, but the A does not do so at night. Along 7th ave, for example, the 2 and 3 are express except for the 1.
I remember back in the very very early 2010s I would watch this video all the time and I am still glad I can remember the good old times by watching this.
(Note this is a fan account of Bart Simpson) I remember watching this when I was a little kid I loved trains! Going back to this video after 2014 brings back so many memories.
In the NYC Subway, each individual line is depicted by a number or a letter designation symbol. The color of the route indicates a main portion of the route, and many routes of the same color have a portion where they run together (sometimes more than one meeting portion). Therefore if saying the Orange Line for NYC, you’d have to know which orange line you’re referring. NYC’s subway is the largest subway system in the United States.
I was hoping the narrator would explain why the MTA picked the colors they picked for certain lines - why the Broadway line is yellow, the 8th Avenue line is blue, the Lexington Avenue line is green, etc.
I assume so that people can just differentiate them more easily on the map and in person. Life would be a bit harder if every train was colored yellow or something
At one time, as my father told me, that trains would also have a combination of colored lights (red, green, yellow and blue) on the front of the first car. Because many could not read, before WW2, the color combination told people what train it was. Heaven forbid if the color combination was wrong.
Number lines were part of the IRT (Interborough Rapid Transit) and are built to narrow dimensions (cars are 51ft L x 9ft W). Letter lines A-G were part of the Independent Subway (IND) while J-Z were part of the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Co (BMT). Both systems were built to wider and longer dimensions (60' or 75' L x 10' W). The numbers and letters are how you tell them apart. Number lines will have shorter trains while letter lines will have wider and longer trains. Also as such, you will never see one type on the other's line. Although some stations are shared, they can't share physical trackage due to the different dimensions.
@@blue9multimediagroup They can share Trackage It’s only the Width keeps BMT/IND trains can’t go on IRT Tracks Because of the Platforms and Curves while the IRT Can go Anywhere in the System
Nick Jablonski 18th Avenue is a local station on the BMT Sea Beach Line of the New York City Subway, located in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn at the intersection of 18th Avenue and 64th Street. It is served by the N train at all times. This open cut station, opened on June 22, 1915, has four tracks and two side platforms. The two center express tracks are not normally used. The Coney Island-bound track has been disconnected from the line and the Manhattan-bound track is signaled for trains in both directions. Both platforms are made of concrete and carved in the Earth's crust. The rectangular columns are painted light blue while the platform walls are painted beige. This station has two fare control areas, one at each end of the platforms. The full-time side is at the east (railroad south) end. A single staircase from each platform goes up to a metal crossover, where a short staircase goes up to a set of doors that lead to the station house's waiting area. A turnstile bank provides access to and from the station. Outside fare control, there is a token booth and doors leading to the west side of 18th Avenue between 63rd and 64th Streets. The station house is shared with several businesses. On the west (railroad north) end of the station, one staircase from each platform goes up to a metal crossover, where a set of doors lead to an un-staffed station house with one exit only turnstile and one High Entry/Exit Turnstile providing access to and from the station. The doors lead to the west side of 17th Avenue between 63rd and 64th Streets. This station was renovated with cream colored tiles and a light blue and red trim line. This station, along with eight others along the Sea Beach Line, is scheduled for a rehabilitation starting in 2015.[2] Station layout[edit] G Street Level Entrances/Exits M Station house to entrances/exits, station agent, MetroCard vending machines P Platform level Side platform, doors will open on the right Northbound local ← toward Astoria - Ditmars Boulevard (New Utrecht Avenue) Northbound express ← Trackbed Southbound express → No regular service Southbound local → toward Coney Island - Stillwell Avenue (20th Avenue) → Side platform, doors will open on the right
Nick Jablonski Address 18th Avenue & 64th Street Brooklyn, NY 11204 Borough Brooklyn Locale Bensonhurst, Mapleton Coordinates 40°37′12.07″N 73°59′22.00″WCoordinates: 40°37′12.07″N 73°59′22.00″W Division B (BMT) Line BMT Sea Beach Line Services N (all times) Connection New York City Bus: B8 Structure Open-cut Platforms 2 side platforms Tracks 4 (2 in regular service) Other information Opened June 22, 1915 (99 years ago) Traffic Passengers (2013) 1,641,928[1] 9.7% Rank 280 out of 421 Station succession Next north New Utrecht Avenue: N Next south 20th Avenue: N
@5BronxExp thats a good point! i was gonna say the exact. like the video says, red is for 7th Ave, for all we know, NYC might as well rename each street a subway goes udner to 7th ave which would be even more of a headache
The best way tp explain the subway Colors and names: Imagine that the tracks are roads and the trains have a specific route, just like buses, but on rails and underground and faster
@411NewYork The point is moot though. Just look at the Q and N today. They are both express and local in different locations making it difficult to make a speedy choice if you're traveling from Coney Island to Queensboro Plaza.
FYI: before people think the (S) arent all IND/BMT, the (S) on 42nd Street is actually IRT the other two (S), Franklin Avenue is BMT and Rockaway Park, which was left is IND
Ery RBX no they're not, look at the trackage, the Franklin runs on the BMT Franklin Avenue line and the Rockaway runs on some IND Rockaway trackage, either you didnt know that or you need to reread what I wrote
Trains on Lines of the MTA Key: * = may have retired on those lines ** = may be retired very soon on those lines ***** = will join service very soon on those lines ****** = will join service A, C, E - R46**, R160, R179, R211*** B, D, F, M - R68*, R160, R143** G - R46**, R68, R160 L - R46**, R143, R160* N, Q, R, W - R46**, R160, R211***** J, Z - R160*, R179
If anyone cares... After a bit of searching... the loco at 1:14 is either a steam dummy or a Forney Steam Locomotive. I'm leaning towards the latter since its pulling so many cars. Its looks like a dummy (to me) because they were really small and also ran bunker first (hiding the front end and giving it that stubby look). Its a shame that this kind of info is hard to come by. Also a shame practically NONE of these nyc building blocks have been preserved.
They have names in NYC for the main branches as well, but that would create clutter as there are 26 lines in NYC: 1, 2, 3 (Red) 7th Ave Line 4, 5, 6 (Green) Lexington Ave Line 7 (Purple) Flushing Line A, C, E (Blue) 8th Ave Line B, D, F, M (Orange) 6th Ave Line G (Lime) Crosstown Line (doesn't enter Manhattan, only runs between Brooklyn & Queens) J, Z (Brown) Nassau St Line L (Light Grey) 14th St Line N, Q, R, W (Yellow) Broadway Line S (Charcoal) 42nd St Shuttle Franklin Ave Shuttle Rockaway Shuttle
If the subway had no line colors and you would see an F train at a 2 Train platform, then no one would want to ride the subway because the lines would be all scattered around and no one would know what train they would have to take to get to a certain station.
The letter trains have a stand track gauge but the number trains have a more narrow track gauge (width) so a number train can't be on a letter line and vise versa.
Eric Iliyev Actually the track gauge is the same for all rail lines, it's the actually train cars that are different and their station platform clearance and tunnels. Number trains can ride on Letter rail lines just fine, but not vice versa as the tunnels and platforms are too narrow for the letter cars like the R160.
A bit strange they'd even show that locomotive drawn train since that wasn't even part of the subway but rather of the now long gone elevated lines in Manhattan.
there are only two platforms at queensboro plaza the upper one for trains going into queens and the lower one going into Manhattan. this is the only cross platform transfer between the IRT and BMT/BRT on the entire Revenue system. the crossover tracks nearby the station are not used for revenue service however they can be used for non-revenue trains(refuse trains, work trains, track geometry cars) as those are all sized to fit into IRT size to cut down on cost. there are a few more connections between the IRT and BMT/BRT/IND like the one between the woodlawn line(4) and concourse yard nearby Beadford Park Boulevard station.
Its a curved platform thats why but it still couldnt fit a lettered train because it is still too narrow and the curve would be too sharp for a lettered train
W Train was eliminated in June 25, 2010, this video was uploaded a literal month after but was brought back in 2016 to fill in for N and R Train Gaps while the Q was rerouted via the Second Avenue Subway
N: We need a extra train! Q: Okay! Delete me out of queens to 57 street 7 avenue R: is this the W? N: yes Q: Yes The power of (W) strikes the (Q) W: Im here back after a 6 year vacation in the heavens Q: Why did your power strike me W: I dont know lol
1985 MTA: we will get rid of double lines, and replace them! AA: noo MTA: the AA is now the K! K: yay MTA: the CC is now the C! C: only one letter got away MTA: the GG is now the G! G: yas MTA: the other CC, is the H! H: ok MTA: the LL is now the L! L: ok then MTA: the QB is now the Q! Q: yay havent been alive since 1967. MTA: the RR is now the R! R: yay 1988 K: i hate myself MTA: the K will be discontinued C: nooo A: 😭😭 E: nooo 1989 MTA: 1, 2, and 3; please welcome 9! 9: yay 1: hello 2: hi 3: hiiiii 9: hi i go with 1 1: ok 2 and 3: ok..... 1995 5: i no longer need to go to Wakefield 2: ok 😭😭 5: but i still go to nereid! 2: ok July 2001 MTA: welcome W N: yay Q: uh R: yay September 2001 9: oh r.i.p cortlandt st 1: yes i know 2: oh wow 3: 1, how are we supposed to go to south ferry? 1: its closed 2: oh 3: oh December 2001 MTA: the Q went back to yellow, so V will take over! B: hi V D: hi V F: hi V MTA: the V will also run with the E on 53rd St E: yay F: but MTA? Where do i go now? MTA: on 63rd street tunnel F: ok 2005 MTA: sorry 9, but you have to go. 9: why??? 1: low ridership 2: bye i guess 3: 😭😭😭 5: also my express is no longer labeled as the 2007 1: oh wow r.i.p cortlandt 2: its completely gone? 3: yes 1: nooo 2: you dumb people! Just restore it. 1: now it got destroyed 😭😭😭 2008 MTA: cortlandt street will begin rebuilding but not until 2015 1: yay 9: i wish i saw that 2010 W: bye V: bye Everyone else: bye V and W! 2016 W: i am back MTA: you sure are 2018 MTA: cortlandt street is back! 1: WTC-Cortlandt? WTF is that? 2: its cortlandt street 1: oh 😒😒
2010: MTA:The Q will go to Astoria Q:Yass! MTA:The M will replace all the V stops between Broadway Lafayette and Forest Hills, but first we need the to take an M into a makeover. *later* M:How do I look? MTA:Orange as a carrot! M:Can I see! M:I look like an official member to the 6th Avenue
Handsome Chan Kemp Why? Just extend the J to 95th Street and increase D service instead of deleting the useful Orange M and bringing back the Brown M nobody used.
Handsome Chan Kemp Your proposed brown M route might as well be extended J train service to 95th Street, with West End D train service increased. Virtually nobody rode the M on the West End Line.
It's actually not that simple. Take the two, it's an express train, and it's a circle. But it's only an express from white hall to about 96st, then it becomes a local train from there. There would be no way to tell if the 2 was an express train, or even when it is. It's very confusing.
Concourse Yard (B,D) has a ramp leading up to the Jerome Avenue line (4). Once upon a time, (I'm thinking during the 1970's) a 4 train departed the yard up this ramp...with a BMT car on the end. Let's just say that car had a severe disagreement with the first station platform it encountered.
The "Letter Trains" IND, BMT can never ride on the IRT "Numbered Lines." Only the opposite can occur. The tunnels and stations on the IRT are too small and narrow for BMT & IND cars to travel through. The IRT trains can travel on all tracks which is why a lot of retired IRT cars were used as work trains. The great thing about the NYC Subway is an IRT train could actually travel the whole subway system as all lines are connected at various points whether it be a specific station of a train yard.
ROBERTO CARLO the Q and N line are not on the 7 line because at Queens boro plaza the N and Q has its own track like the 7 one side for 7 other for N and Q
The 7 can only use the N W to get to Coney Island for maintenance. Nothing else. They can't run in revenue service due to the large perform gap between IRT trains and BMT/IND platforms.
1 2 3:Red N Q R W:Yellow 7 : Purple A C E: Blue B D F M:Orange 4 5 6:Green L:Gray G:Lighter Variant of Green S:Dark Gray J/Z:Brown The H was used for the Rockaway Shuttle the K was lastly used back in the 70's and 80's The V was used until 2010 The W came back last year The 9 was lastly used as skip stop/express service for the 1 train until 2005 when the R160a/bs were made The Unused Services were: I O P U X and Y But the X was used as Not in Service Trains Mostly on the r32 C lines rolling stocks R46 A F and R R32 C J Z R42 J/Z R160 C E F J L M N Q R W and Z lines r142/a 2 4 5 and 6 r62 1 3 and 6 r179 J R211 No Lines yet
MTA: thats why you will never see a lettered train next to a numbered train
Me: Queensboro Plaza
Orwellianpro Well at Queensboro Plaza, the lines do share a platform, but do not stop at the same track. That’s why there is a separate track for each.
AWESOMEBROGAMERSF5 2 Same station, same platforms, but different tracks. The car widths are why you never see a 7 train on the N train side, and vice versa.
AWESOMEBROGAMERSF5 2 The yellow barriers are there to prevent 7 trains from stopping there, since the platform is longer than the trains themselves. It also prevents people from falling into the tracks.
@@TheRailLeaguer and w train because the W is back
@@smoochez187 True as well. However, the W is considered the N as well, except that these N trains go to Whitehall instead of the N terminal at Coney Island due to lack of space. Both lines are scheduled as one N service in the work schedules.
Just remember that a express train might skip stops while a local train doesn’t! Most trains are local trains so you don’t have to worry about it skipping your stop.
And for those that may not know, you know its express if its a diamond shape vs the circle (circles are local). However some trains may "go express" for a stop or two to get situated back in its proper timetable (due to delays and other factors)
Considering the fact that NYC has well over 8 million people, its understandable why they have an extensive complex subway system.
Yes. Meanwhile here in Mexico our subway system is simple with only 12 lines and in Mexico City there are more than 20 million people. Here the subway is property of the government and it's also very cheap, because of that I'm not surprised that we have a subway like that. Sorry for bad english.
Andres Niño Mexico City does not have 20 million people. You're talking about the whole metropolitan area. Mexico city proper has 8,851,000 as of 2010. Look it up
Andres Niño
Nyc urban area has over 22 million people
Mike Someone no
NightAvenger375
Yes
Did Bill Wurtz edit this vid?
Nathan V. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@kxngcorrupt5524 i had the same thought
Nathan V. LOL
Yeah it looks so much like a Bill Wurtz vid
😂 IT DOES LOOK LIKE A BILL WURTZ VID 😂
0:12 "...to help riders get through the system"
yeah that montage of weird stuff going on doesn't scream "comprehension!" very well
Fucking LMAO X-D
That just gave me epilepsy lol
music was too loud, narration not loud enough
No duh it was made in 2010 it wouldn’t be nice and quiet they didn’t have that much of good technology.
@@JOHNYBOYZeven the most bare bones editors like windows movie maker can empathize narration. Computers were fully capable of doing stuff like that for decades.
I think this video confused me even more about the subway
+William Beresford why would you write this? fuck off.
+William Beresford Once again, fuck off. Your comment contributes absolutely nothing of value to society. You added nothing to the conversation and educated no one. Not everyone is born in nyc. Nyc has a lot of immigrants and people from other states that have only ever used cars. The driver's license manual is also easy to read, but a lot of people can't pass their test.
+Arya Stark exacly
+Arya Stark happened if they dont know english
soooo...
get from facts staright
+William Beresford i agree
This is a great introduction to the topic! Glad the MTA is actually trying to explain things to passengers.
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Always be wary of whether you're catching a local or express train. Also be wary whether those services run express 24/7, or even if a local service doesn't run late at night. Some services may have multiple destinations in one direction, so make sure you get on the correct Downtown (southbound) A, Uptown (northbound) E, Uptown 5 or Uptown N -- they don't all head to Lefferts Blvd, Parsons/Archer, Dyre Ave, or Astoria-Ditmars respectively. When entering a local-only station, make sure you're using the correct entrance, otherwise you may have to travel a few stops in the opposite of your intended direction, to get to an express station where the mezzanine allows you to go to the other side.
Useful information for my Cities: Skylines version of New York City! Thanks for the input!
NO
people will only remember what lines they use
Unless if you're a railfan
I remember every single station in the NYC subway system
Jim Barbagallo I remember every station on N and Q lines, even I remember the transfers on weekdays, weekends and late night
Believe it or not, people used to remember them by line and company (i.e. IRT, BMT, IND).
Being in Brooklyn & Queens the first 6 years of my life, I basically grew up on the A,C and E trains. I had a feeling it went that way.
Also, before 1985, some lines (mainly local services) used double letters.
AA - K (discontinued 1988)
CC- C
GG - G
LL - L
QB - Q
RR - R
SS - S (SS used to mean shuttles, S meant specials)
It’s good that the branches are also coded with numbers and letters, here in London they just name different destinations or sometimes add (via x) to indicate different route branches within the same line which quite confusing sometimes
Northern line is really complex, with two central (Bank/Charing Cross) and two northern branches (Edgware/High Barnet), that can be combined in 4 ways (a northern and a central branch). The Metropolitan line has express services (called "fast" trains) with no separate numbers either.
I think the London Underground should introduce additional route numbers.
@@LunaDragofelis changed my mind😅, destination name is more intuitive and memorable and easily found on the tube map. And the express service is ONLY on the metropolitan line and ONLY during peak hours and ONLY on the weekdays. These systems is also aligned😜with the route naming system on the national rail services.
Technically the 42nd St S is IRT, the other two are BMT/IND.
Yes
Actually the other two at both IND trains since the FS is a part of the Sixth Avenue lines, and the RS is a part of the Eighth Avenue Lines. (As far as I know at least)
Still confusing.
moron
Rob P true
THX 1138 4EB ur the moron not him
False🇩🇴🇺🇸🇲🇽
You'll get used to it... ten years from now
This is some what educational for me to learn more about the Subway trains, with colors and names on the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. : )
wow, i never thought of any of this! it makes sense now. Although i have noticed that all the #-ed lines have the 3 door trains. i thought the letters and #s were randomly selected
Yes numbers have 3 doors and letters have 4.
**IRT lines
OLD COMMENT
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Yeah, basically the #-ed lines use different trains because before all the transit companies merged, IRT made their own tunnels smaller so that the competition can’t bring their own trains in their tunnels.
for those of you that do not know about the nyc subway system:
-It was the first to develop a 4-track subway system. This allows express and local trains to run on separate tracks for customers to get to locations quicker and easier.
-There are many subway car prototypes that are for the BMT, IRT, and IND.
-The NYC subway system has an interesting history and features. You should learn more about it.
Lol
They could just run local trains at a higher speed with slower dwell times at stations like London. I was so surprised when i saw guards on the subway, its a metro system. Meanwhile in europe, we've got automatic trains, driverless trains, trains every 100seconds etc. Im not gonna lie having 4 tracks is clever, especially if a train brakes down etc but europe is way ahead with public transport.
@@Ethan-ik1nm more stops and lines than London so that won't work
Thanks for the informative video. Learned something new!
People are saying this is confusing but if you LIVE in NYC or at least know how to ride the trains, this could actually teach some neat stuff. For example, the numbered and lettered ones represent three different companies that use to make up the MTA, in which the letters A-G represent one company and the other letters another different company.
But that aside, you May think the MTA is quite confusing, but to me I think it’s mostly because-
1. The Map is less of a diagram and more of a map. It’s intended purpose is to yes, tell you the stops but also seemingly tell you where places are relative to landmarks around the city and such (if that makes sense.)
2. And 2, the constant changing and fixing of tracks (especially on weekends where kids aren’t typically in the subway.)
So, to me at least, I think that pretty much if you got the MTA app, you’re good on updates ahead of hand (so you know if they will get in the way- in which many will not, unless it’s in Manhattan or northern Brooklyn- (like Atlantic Barclays Center).)
1:54 Union Square platform fillers: Im gonna stop you right there
My Dad was a Conductor for NYCTA for 24 years. Worked on the IRT out of East 241st in The Bronx.
I actually saw a 7 train on the N train track but I'm not sure if it was out of service
FBI AGENT it was, it was a r62 transfer to the 6 train, the 6 train needs r62, the IRT 6 line runs better with the r62’s EDIT: when I said it was I mean like it was out of service.
Number lines can use letter lines to get to yards because the number cars are narrower. But the reverse will never happen because the letter cars are too wide to fit into a number line platform and will cause damage.
@@javie2064 read my above comment
I watched this as a 5 year old, brings back memories. I understood the first part but I didn't understand the second one.
Now I do
You were 5 years old when you first saw this? I am 21 and feel old now.
0:09 and 2:04 1 Avenue’s exit leads to the water in the map.
*NOW DOESNT THAT MAP LOOK DIFFERENT?*
0:52 “…and dark gray for the shuttles on 42nd Street in Manhattan, and Franklin Avenue in Brooklyn.”
The Rockaway Park Shuttle in Queens: Am I a joke to you?
Lol I think the H still existed at this time or smth
they are also know as divisions the 1234567S(42nd street shuttle) is A Division and ABCDEFGJLMNQRWZ S(Franklin Avenue & Rockaway Park Shuttles) is the B Division.
The lines didn't have the alphanumeric nomenclature until 1967 when the Chrystie Street Connection opened, blurring the distinction between BMT and IND.
The exception to the rule of the IND/IRT at the same platform is Queensboro Plaza station where the 7 train and Q and N trains share a platform
The beginning doesn't actually say why they are the color they are just what route they use. She made it sound like they'd explain why blue is used for 8th ave or purple for the flushing line.
this honestly made me even more confused
shamyri yea you should be if you don’t here’s proof go to Queensboro Plaza there’s a 7 And 5 and a N and Q there all mixed up there BMT IND I just don’t get it
Denis Daily the (5) train don’t go to Queens and the (Q) train doesn’t go to Queens anymore
Never been a 5 in Queens bro LoL
You meant 7, N, R, W (replaced the Q).
@@LuisMendoza-jx4sg but they're on different tracks as the structure gauge is different. That's what the narrator meant.
In Vancouver:
Blue- Expo Line
Yellow- Millennium Line
Yellow with green- Millennium-Evergreen Extension
Teal- Canada Line
Green by itself- Rapid Bus line
Purple- West Coast Express
This is interesting and nostalgic.
for the 7 train there is a diamond for express service. Besides the 7, you just have to know that different letters and numbers individually. For instance, the D always runs express along central park west, but the A does not do so at night.
Along 7th ave, for example, the 2 and 3 are express except for the 1.
I remember back in the very very early 2010s I would watch this video all the time and I am still glad I can remember the good old times by watching this.
(Note this is a fan account of Bart Simpson)
I remember watching this when I was a little kid I loved trains! Going back to this video after 2014 brings back so many memories.
In the NYC Subway, each individual line is depicted by a number or a letter designation symbol. The color of the route indicates a main portion of the route, and many routes of the same color have a portion where they run together (sometimes more than one meeting portion). Therefore if saying the Orange Line for NYC, you’d have to know which orange line you’re referring. NYC’s subway is the largest subway system in the United States.
Me: Flushing-Main St
Me in 2012: Forest Hills, Elmhurst Avenue.
0:37 Light Blue is for 2nd Avenue
Cyan is for 2nd Avenue
I was hoping the narrator would explain why the MTA picked the colors they picked for certain lines - why the Broadway line is yellow, the 8th Avenue line is blue, the Lexington Avenue line is green, etc.
I assume so that people can just differentiate them more easily on the map and in person. Life would be a bit harder if every train was colored yellow or something
I love and miss NYC 😭❤️
Mostly, yes I would say this, I’d rather catch a Express Train @ Mets-Willets Point.
At one time, as my father told me, that trains would also have a combination of colored lights (red, green, yellow and blue) on the front of the first car. Because many could not read, before WW2, the color combination told people what train it was. Heaven forbid if the color combination was wrong.
That's partly how the Malbone St accident happened.....
This video didn't explain anything. Color means size? Letter means size? Wtf?
Number lines were part of the IRT (Interborough Rapid Transit) and are built to narrow dimensions (cars are 51ft L x 9ft W).
Letter lines A-G were part of the Independent Subway (IND) while J-Z were part of the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Co (BMT). Both systems were built to wider and longer dimensions (60' or 75' L x 10' W).
The numbers and letters are how you tell them apart. Number lines will have shorter trains while letter lines will have wider and longer trains. Also as such, you will never see one type on the other's line. Although some stations are shared, they can't share physical trackage due to the different dimensions.
@@blue9multimediagroup They can share Trackage
It’s only the Width keeps BMT/IND trains can’t go on IRT Tracks Because of the Platforms and Curves while the IRT Can go Anywhere in the System
@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 is that not what we just said?
I like the IRT number lines in my opinion
People have been seeing R188 cars at the 18th Avenue (N) Train Station.
That station is an Open-Cut Station.
Nick Jablonski 18th Avenue is a local station on the BMT Sea Beach Line of the New York City Subway, located in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn at the intersection of 18th Avenue and 64th Street. It is served by the N train at all times.
This open cut station, opened on June 22, 1915, has four tracks and two side platforms. The two center express tracks are not normally used. The Coney Island-bound track has been disconnected from the line and the Manhattan-bound track is signaled for trains in both directions. Both platforms are made of concrete and carved in the Earth's crust. The rectangular columns are painted light blue while the platform walls are painted beige.
This station has two fare control areas, one at each end of the platforms. The full-time side is at the east (railroad south) end. A single staircase from each platform goes up to a metal crossover, where a short staircase goes up to a set of doors that lead to the station house's waiting area. A turnstile bank provides access to and from the station. Outside fare control, there is a token booth and doors leading to the west side of 18th Avenue between 63rd and 64th Streets. The station house is shared with several businesses.
On the west (railroad north) end of the station, one staircase from each platform goes up to a metal crossover, where a set of doors lead to an un-staffed station house with one exit only turnstile and one High Entry/Exit Turnstile providing access to and from the station. The doors lead to the west side of 17th Avenue between 63rd and 64th Streets.
This station was renovated with cream colored tiles and a light blue and red trim line.
This station, along with eight others along the Sea Beach Line, is scheduled for a rehabilitation starting in 2015.[2]
Station layout[edit]
G Street Level Entrances/Exits
M Station house to entrances/exits, station agent, MetroCard vending machines
P
Platform level Side platform, doors will open on the right
Northbound local ← toward Astoria - Ditmars Boulevard (New Utrecht Avenue)
Northbound express ← Trackbed
Southbound express → No regular service
Southbound local → toward Coney Island - Stillwell Avenue (20th Avenue) →
Side platform, doors will open on the right
Nick Jablonski Address 18th Avenue & 64th Street
Brooklyn, NY 11204
Borough Brooklyn
Locale Bensonhurst, Mapleton
Coordinates 40°37′12.07″N 73°59′22.00″WCoordinates: 40°37′12.07″N 73°59′22.00″W
Division B (BMT)
Line BMT Sea Beach Line
Services N (all times)
Connection
New York City Bus: B8
Structure Open-cut
Platforms 2 side platforms
Tracks 4 (2 in regular service)
Other information
Opened June 22, 1915 (99 years ago)
Traffic
Passengers (2013) 1,641,928[1] 9.7%
Rank 280 out of 421
Station succession
Next north New Utrecht Avenue: N
Next south 20th Avenue: N
Here is some information about the 18th Avenue (N) Train Station.
Non revenue moves to the from Coney island
Fact: the (7) train is the ONLY subway number line that goes to Queens.
That’s not true, the N train goes to queens just like the E train too
@@RailsByBillyBruh the N got designated already and the E always used a letter labal.
That is very educational for me to know which Subway trains are very close to me to take. : )
@ALN1 China It's just a video. : 0
@5BronxExp
thats a good point! i was gonna say the exact. like the video says, red is for 7th Ave, for all we know, NYC might as well rename each street a subway goes udner to 7th ave which would be even more of a headache
what about the 6th Ave line?
@@kathymcmorrow it's orange
@@jaydottt_transitfanner OWANGE
0:39 the way she said “6th avenue” kinda sounded like the l train “6th avenue”
There was never and currently is no "I" train route.
@@jaydottt_transitfanner I meant the L train
This didnt even confuse me at all, i guess because i’m a rail fan its not that confusing
The best way tp explain the subway Colors and names:
Imagine that the tracks are roads and the trains have a specific route, just like buses, but on rails and underground and faster
@411NewYork The point is moot though. Just look at the Q and N today. They are both express and local in different locations making it difficult to make a speedy choice if you're traveling from Coney Island to Queensboro Plaza.
FYI: before people think the (S) arent all IND/BMT, the (S) on 42nd Street is actually IRT the other two (S), Franklin Avenue is BMT and Rockaway Park, which was left is IND
the roc kaway and Franklin are BMT not ind
Ery RBX no they're not, look at the trackage, the Franklin runs on the BMT Franklin Avenue line and the Rockaway runs on some IND Rockaway trackage, either you didnt know that or you need to reread what I wrote
Steven Francis
i did know franklin avenue ran BMT..
Ery RBX yeah, just Rockaway runs IND
Steven Francis
with the A
1:16 Ninth Avenue Elevated at 110th Street (aka "Suicide Curve").
Trains on Lines of the MTA
Key:
* = may have retired on those lines
** = may be retired very soon on those lines
***** = will join service very soon on those lines
****** = will join service
A, C, E - R46**, R160, R179, R211***
B, D, F, M - R68*, R160, R143**
G - R46**, R68, R160
L - R46**, R143, R160*
N, Q, R, W - R46**, R160, R211*****
J, Z - R160*, R179
Yet we are still confused till this day😅
Impas_sive no I understand it pretty well.
Well that's sure cleared things up, I'm glad I've still got a map on my phone!
If anyone cares...
After a bit of searching... the loco at 1:14 is either a steam dummy or a Forney Steam Locomotive. I'm leaning towards the latter since its pulling so many cars. Its looks like a dummy (to me) because they were really small and also ran bunker first (hiding the front end and giving it that stubby look). Its a shame that this kind of info is hard to come by. Also a shame practically NONE of these nyc building blocks have been preserved.
1:31 yawning person walking to his train
Congratulations on having over 10,000 views of this video clip. Now, I know why the trains are labeled the way they are labeled.
In London we name our Subway lines
They have names in NYC for the main branches as well, but that would create clutter as there are 26 lines in NYC:
1, 2, 3
(Red)
7th Ave Line
4, 5, 6
(Green)
Lexington Ave Line
7
(Purple)
Flushing Line
A, C, E
(Blue)
8th Ave Line
B, D, F, M
(Orange)
6th Ave Line
G
(Lime)
Crosstown Line (doesn't enter Manhattan, only runs between Brooklyn & Queens)
J, Z
(Brown)
Nassau St Line
L
(Light Grey)
14th St Line
N, Q, R, W
(Yellow)
Broadway Line
S
(Charcoal)
42nd St Shuttle
Franklin Ave Shuttle
Rockaway Shuttle
What about the T train (The Second Avenue Subway)?
T isn't a thing yet.
2nd Ave Subway is Q at the moment.
Plus, this video was made in 2010 so.... Yeah
If the subway had no line colors and you would see an F train at a 2 Train platform, then no one would want to ride the subway because the lines would be all scattered around and no one would know what train they would have to take to get to a certain station.
The letter trains have a stand track gauge but the number trains have a more narrow track gauge (width) so a number train can't be on a letter line and vise versa.
Eric Iliyev Actually the track gauge is the same for all rail lines, it's the actually train cars that are different and their station platform clearance and tunnels. Number trains can ride on Letter rail lines just fine, but not vice versa as the tunnels and platforms are too narrow for the letter cars like the R160.
+Professor Hines' Choice absolutely correct
No colors has no relation to unorganized service
Except number train models like r62 and r142 would make a huge gap between the train and the platform.
A bit strange they'd even show that locomotive drawn train since that wasn't even part of the subway but rather of the now long gone elevated lines in Manhattan.
"That's why you'll never see a numbered train next to a lettered train"
Times square 42nd Avenue and 168th street
Separate platforms
The only chance for there being the opposite size at a platform is if 7 trains are rerouted via the W line.
You forgot 207th St.....
@@blue9multimediagroup 207 Yard is not a station...
Give Staten Island the R211's now!!!
42nd Street is the only IRT shuttle in NYC
This video gives away its age by the light blue color used for the *A C E* trains at 0:35. The current color is much darker.
I love your videos
at least the w train came back
yep I wish they created this in 2000.
That's gotta be Brooklyn /queens line. Whoa.
@@timafiggy the W isn’t the Brooklyn and queens lines
The Flushing and Astoria Lines used to be the exception in the days of joint operation between the IRT and BMT.
This video confused the hell outta me....i know the subway by heart but it damn sure wasn't cause of this video.
I'm so happy chicago CTA is just colors, so much more simple. MTA is too confusing for me lol.
What if you're color.blind? ;)
kingraver507 i
I agree i used to live in chicago cta is easy metra is way hard-Union Pacific West Line see it so hard
Seoul has the best and one of biggest subways in the world, and they only use numbers. Wow, so easy and smart!
Not to me, maybe because I'm an new Yorker
A lettered train on a numbered platform.
Uh.. Queensboro Plaza? 😝
Um did they do wrong railings on the (N) before
the (N) and the (7) do not link tracks at that point
Theirs an X switch at the upper level of queens borough that connects the BMT and IRT
there are only two platforms at queensboro plaza the upper one for trains going into queens and the lower one going into Manhattan. this is the only cross platform transfer between the IRT and BMT/BRT on the entire Revenue system. the crossover tracks nearby the station are not used for revenue service however they can be used for non-revenue trains(refuse trains, work trains, track geometry cars) as those are all sized to fit into IRT size to cut down on cost. there are a few more connections between the IRT and BMT/BRT/IND like the one between the woodlawn line(4) and concourse yard nearby Beadford Park Boulevard station.
Miss Jennifer Banks queensboro plaza is the first station to have one side IRT and the other side for BMT
I was new in the city and took the wrong train.Had to walk for miles as I got off.
Its a curved platform thats why but it still couldnt fit a lettered train because it is still too narrow and the curve would be too sharp for a lettered train
Actually no.
Number lines are narrower than letter lines so letter cars will never fit on a number line.
Blue9 MultiMedia Group I think I was replying to someone here and accidentally wrote it in as a comment.
@@HesJustSteven
I get that. It happens. No harm, no foul. 👍🏽
@bebo2good1 actually, most of the "s" bullets for that line are in yellow
@5BronxExp multi color displays are more expensive and more likely to break.
metropod b
Actually no they're not.
Wow. The first MTA video I ever saw. Isn't it so simplistic?
Ah yes, the times when the 7 ran to 42nd street and the W didn't exist
Actually, the W Train was first introduced in 2001, along with the V, but both were eliminated in 2010 bc of the MTA's Budget Cuts
“Stand clear of the closing doors please”
0:28 where’s the w line
It was discontinued at the time
W Train was eliminated in June 25, 2010, this video was uploaded a literal month after but was brought back in 2016 to fill in for N and R Train Gaps while the Q was rerouted via the Second Avenue Subway
*Queensboro Plaza: am I a joke to you?*
ItsDavidTubeHD v2.0 😂😂😂
Physical shared trackage
this video shows the past that they had those vintage trains.
They forgot the W once
this was made a bit after it was discontinued in 2010, it did not return until 2016.
If all the subways had no colors or all scattered in random areas, the NYC Subway would be very confusing.
N: We need a extra train!
Q: Okay! Delete me out of queens to
57 street 7 avenue
R: is this the W?
N: yes
Q: Yes
The power of (W) strikes the (Q)
W: Im here back after a 6 year vacation in the heavens
Q: Why did your power strike me
W: I dont know lol
Everybody on the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,J,L,M,N,Q,R,The 3 shuttles, and Z hear (W) and they say yay!!!!!!
W Train Broadway Express What about the 1,3,A,B,D,G,Z,and the 3 Shuttles?
I was supposed to say that, but for some random reason, I said all the express except (3) and one local (J)
1985
MTA: we will get rid of double lines, and replace them!
AA: noo
MTA: the AA is now the K!
K: yay
MTA: the CC is now the C!
C: only one letter got away
MTA: the GG is now the G!
G: yas
MTA: the other CC, is the H!
H: ok
MTA: the LL is now the L!
L: ok then
MTA: the QB is now the Q!
Q: yay havent been alive since 1967.
MTA: the RR is now the R!
R: yay
1988
K: i hate myself
MTA: the K will be discontinued
C: nooo
A: 😭😭
E: nooo
1989
MTA: 1, 2, and 3; please welcome 9!
9: yay
1: hello
2: hi
3: hiiiii
9: hi i go with 1
1: ok
2 and 3: ok.....
1995
5: i no longer need to go to Wakefield
2: ok 😭😭
5: but i still go to nereid!
2: ok
July 2001
MTA: welcome W
N: yay
Q: uh
R: yay
September 2001
9: oh r.i.p cortlandt st
1: yes i know
2: oh wow
3: 1, how are we supposed to go to south ferry?
1: its closed
2: oh
3: oh
December 2001
MTA: the Q went back to yellow, so V will take over!
B: hi V
D: hi V
F: hi V
MTA: the V will also run with the E on 53rd St
E: yay
F: but MTA? Where do i go now?
MTA: on 63rd street tunnel
F: ok
2005
MTA: sorry 9, but you have to go.
9: why???
1: low ridership
2: bye i guess
3: 😭😭😭
5: also my express is no longer labeled as the
2007
1: oh wow r.i.p cortlandt
2: its completely gone?
3: yes
1: nooo
2: you dumb people! Just restore it.
1: now it got destroyed 😭😭😭
2008
MTA: cortlandt street will begin rebuilding but not until 2015
1: yay
9: i wish i saw that
2010
W: bye
V: bye
Everyone else: bye V and W!
2016
W: i am back
MTA: you sure are
2018
MTA: cortlandt street is back!
1: WTC-Cortlandt? WTF is that?
2: its cortlandt street
1: oh 😒😒
2010:
MTA:The Q will go to Astoria
Q:Yass!
MTA:The M will replace all the V stops between Broadway Lafayette and Forest Hills, but first we need the to take an M into a makeover.
*later*
M:How do I look?
MTA:Orange as a carrot!
M:Can I see!
M:I look like an official member to the 6th Avenue
I love trains😎🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞
New York City’s subway is the largest subway system in the United States.
FUN FACT: The B,D,M and R all have one thing in common. What is it?
they use both IND and BMT tracks? (tho that would also include the Q)
Number trains are 3 doors long letter trains are 4 doors
Nice video with interesting info. But next time please consider limiting the use of music. There were times I couldn't quite hear the words.
Note: This Is All Pretend. The Brown M Train Will Comeback. It’s Route: Overground Stops: Coney Island Stilwell Avenue, Bay 50th Street, 25th Av, Bay Parkway, 20th Av, 18th Av, 79th Street, 71st Street, 62nd Street, New Utrecht Avenue, 55th Street, 50th Street, Fort Hamilton Parkway, 9th Avenue, Underground Stops: 36th Street, 25th Street, Prospect Avenue, 9th Street, Union Street, Atlantic Avenue Barclays Center, Dekalb Avenue, Jay Street Metrotech, Court Street, Broad Street, Fulton Street, Chambers Street, Canal Street, Bowery, Eessex Street, Overground Stops: Marcy Avenue, Hewes Street, Lorimer Street, Flushing Avenue, Myrtle Avenue, Gates Avenue, Halsey Street, Chauncey Street, Broadway Junction, Alabama Avenue, Van Siclen Avenue, Cleveland Street, Norwood Avenue, Crescent Street, Cypress Hills, 75th Street Elderts Lane, 85th Street Forest Parkway, Woodhaven Blvd, 104th Street, 111th Street, 121st Street, Underground Stops: Sutphin Blvd, Jamaica Center. Models: R143, R42, R160, R32, R179, And There Will Also Be A Brown Train Route. It’s Route: Underground Stops: Jamaica Center, Sutphin Blvd, Overground Stops: 121st Street, 104th Street, Woodhaven Blvd, 75th Street Elderts Lane, Crescent Street, Norwood Avenue, Van Siclen Avenue, Alabama Avenue, Broadway Junction, Chauncey Street, Gates Avenue, Myrtle Avenue, Marcy Avenue, Essex Street, Bowery, Canal Street, Chambers Street, Fulton Street, Broad Street, Court Street, Jay Street Metrotech, Atlantic Avenue Barclays Center, 36th Street, Overground Stops: 9th Avenue, Fort Hamilton Parkway, 50th Street, 55th Street, 62nd Street, 71st Street, 79th Street, 18th Av, 20th Av, Bay Parkway, 25th Av, Bay 50th Street, Coney Island Stilwell Avenue. Models: R143, R42, R160, R32, R179. And The Brown Train Route Will Run From 6am To 10pm Every Day
Handsome Chan Kemp Why? Just extend the J to 95th Street and increase D service instead of deleting the useful Orange M and bringing back the Brown M nobody used.
Handsome Chan Kemp Your proposed brown M route might as well be extended J train service to 95th Street, with West End D train service increased. Virtually nobody rode the M on the West End Line.
This made me even more confused, there’s other lines for the whole NYC subway.
It's actually not that simple. Take the two, it's an express train, and it's a circle. But it's only an express from white hall to about 96st, then it becomes a local train from there. There would be no way to tell if the 2 was an express train, or even when it is. It's very confusing.
is there anywhere where the lettered trains can transfer and end up on a numbered track & vice versa. besides the n/q going on the 7 train track
Concourse Yard (B,D) has a ramp leading up to the Jerome Avenue line (4).
Once upon a time, (I'm thinking during the 1970's) a 4 train departed the yard up this ramp...with a BMT car on the end. Let's just say that car had a severe disagreement with the first station platform it encountered.
The "Letter Trains" IND, BMT can never ride on the IRT "Numbered Lines." Only the opposite can occur. The tunnels and stations on the IRT are too small and narrow for BMT & IND cars to travel through. The IRT trains can travel on all tracks which is why a lot of retired IRT cars were used as work trains. The great thing about the NYC Subway is an IRT train could actually travel the whole subway system as all lines are connected at various points whether it be a specific station of a train yard.
ROBERTO CARLO the Q and N line are not on the 7 line because at Queens boro plaza the N and Q has its own track like the 7 one side for 7 other for N and Q
The 7 can only use the N W to get to Coney Island for maintenance. Nothing else. They can't run in revenue service due to the large perform gap between IRT trains and BMT/IND platforms.
1 2 3:Red
N Q R W:Yellow
7 : Purple
A C E: Blue
B D F M:Orange
4 5 6:Green
L:Gray
G:Lighter Variant of Green
S:Dark Gray
J/Z:Brown
The H was used for the Rockaway Shuttle
the K was lastly used back in the 70's and 80's
The V was used until 2010
The W came back last year
The 9 was lastly used as skip stop/express service for the 1 train until 2005 when the R160a/bs were made
The Unused Services were:
I O P U X and Y
But the X was used as Not in Service Trains
Mostly on the r32 C lines
rolling stocks
R46 A F and R
R32 C J Z
R42 J/Z
R160 C E F J L M N Q R W and Z lines
r142/a 2 4 5 and 6
r62 1 3 and 6
r179 J
R211 No Lines yet
Rah Mel the r211s aren’t even built, they don’t even have an assigned manufacturer
Rah Mel The 9 train discontinuation has nothing to do with the R160s. It was discontinued because it made no sense.
Look at a video about fleet! The R160 was built around 2005-2006 Look it up! Jeez!
Omg why was I so toxic back then 🤦🏽♂️
In this year, the R211 exist and was assigned to A.