There is no need to paint the interior of the pan. Adding Borax or another rust preventer to the water is plenty. Mine is 2.5 years old, cutting near daily, no rust. reply if you want a video link, don't want to spam you
If you're worried about corrosion in the pan, would a sacrificial zinc anode be an option? Although either way, if you can't paint it, some kind of pickling/passivation treatment might still be an option, or you could add a corrosion inhibitor to the water itself.
Imagine the possibilities... judging from the tracked vehicle you built without a cnc cutter, the next big project will probably be a helicopter. But seriously, mad respect for you and your builds and your videos. TH-cam's finest 🙂
I know I’m few years behind on this video but in case no one has mentioned it you shouldn’t use breakleen on metal u intend to weld apparently even though it evaporates it leaves a coating and when welded on it emits a pretty harmful gas I was always thought to prep with acetone to avoid that
Epoxy paint for the inside might have been a good option on the inside of your pan. The welding contractor where I work replaced the top end of stainless steel disconnect boxes removed from discontinued equipment, which is about 1/3 the cost of new ones.
I'm no welding expert. I thoroughly enjoy watching you. When you welded the electrical cabinet did you have trouble with excessive heat? I'm assuming it was the thickness of a car body
Полосы оставляемые кисточкой тут абсолютно не важны, главное чтоб очищено от жира было хорошо и не было непрокрасов. Отличное качество, прямо самому захотелось пойти чего нить тоже построить, но работа не дает...
I painted the inside of my tank with POR 15. Used a brush and the finish was high gloss. I read they use it for submerged surfaces so I gave it a try. I’ve drained the pan twice to clean it and see how the POR held up. Still shines and is rock hard. I’ve got a 2x4 pan and use less than a 1/2 pint. Awesome stuff. No signs of damage from the plasma cutter head.
Nice work Donn 👍 it’s coming along great! Good to see the motorcycle shots in the video 🙂 and I like the nice touch of music too. I get people that complain about the music I use and others enjoy it. It’s always hard to make everyone happy so I just do what I like 😂
You could paint inside the water table but probably best not to, if you do paint it make sure not to paint the slots for the bars so that the electricity can still get through.
I use small foam rollers to paint things like that, and use a foam brush to get into tight spaces where the roller won't fit. Faster and gives a better finish.
Foam rollers are the best. If you add a small nail (drive it in the closed end of the roller) you can pull it out halfway when you are finished and lightly drag the roller across the paint. It will stop the roller from turning. It makes a glass finish with no air bubbles!
Little upset Donn... I haven't got my plane tickets to go help you on the builds. I could as important questions like Why Donn or are you going to grind it too Donn and other various questions that mean little but aggravate a lot. I was supposed to cut some stuff too and if I got bored then go out and take stuff off your truck or how ever you got there so you had to fix to go home? Ah to be so young again...seventy three is not a fun age by looking at how easy that you get around. I sure could slow things down though and half of america would hate the show cause being around people seem to bring out the worst in me. You have a hell of a good channel and hope that you keep it going for years
Could have used a roller to paint with instead of spray, faster and cleaner that way and looks better than brush :-) Oh and you can electroplate the inside with zink for corrosion protection and still have it conductive to use with the plasma cutter :-)
I looked at the space and cost of a fully equipped PC. monitor, keyboard and mouse and opted for an offline controller instead with a MPG pendant. PC is in the air conditioned office for design. An offline controller can replace the CNC PC and breakout board. A 4 axis controller such as the DDCSV2.1 is about the cost of just Mach 3 license. I take the G-Code files on a thumb drive, plug it in, use the pendant to home and probe, then clear the DRO, and start. An offline controller without pendant is a little over $160. With a pendant, it is a little over 200, but you probably want a MPG pendant anyway. Great build. Are you using Mach 3 or Mach 4 or some other CNC software? I've started playing with Linux CNC, but as a real time CNC, it does not work with USB serial breakout boards, so you need a real parallel printer port and breakout board. The parallel break out boards for 4 axis is very inexpensive, often under $10. The cable cost more than the breakout board.
Question... where did you buy the rails and motor for the cnc ? And do you upload your plans or something? Just stumbled upon your channel got instantly hooked on! Great work, greetings from Switzerland
Nice setup. My only complaint is actually for your safety. If you fancy having a ring, I'd take it off in a shop. Nothing worse than seeing the skin peel off like a gloved finger. I have seen it during my service in the armed forces. Not a pretty sight although pretty amazing how it just peeled off leaving nothing but the flesh. You never forget. ☺
Your water pan is way better looking than mine. I just clip my ground wire to the metal I am cutting. Your plasma machine is a lot better than mine also but the building is a great adventure.
Not sure if anyone else has commented about brake clean and welding. Please be very careful, or try a different degreaser. If brake clean gets vaporized by high heat like welding, and the fumes get inhaled. It can hurt you very very badly, or kill. Cheers!
Hey. I have one warning about using breake cleaner and than welding on that surface. If you use breake cleaner it seams that everythinh vapours up. But it doesn't. When you go weld on that chromium vapours are made. And chrome is one of the worst thing for your brain cells. That gas kills the most brain cells. So stay away from breake cleaner when welding. The best thing to use is acetone. I really hope you see that comment.
Good evening Donn, great video 👍👍 !! Great full that you allow us to follow along with you. It’s always enlightening to see your projects and see how you fabricate your different projects and how you recycle parts and pieces from around your place. Thanks for sharing with us and keep up the good work and videos. Fred.
I'm 3 years late but if you want to be able to paint the inside of the tray to protect it from rust but still need it to conduct, weld on a bolt, screw several nuts on it (to protect the threads), paint the inside then unscrew the top nut, and install a bare copper fly-lead onto the bolt...the fly-lead gives you a path to the ground bolt on the bottom of the tray while the nuts should help keep the bolt from rusting out... And if the bolt does rust out, you can always cut it off, weld on a replacement and touch up the paint on the tray where you scuffed it off with the cutter...
Another excellent project so far. I love your builds. I run CNC machines every day and I have a very small suggestion: use a flexible keyboard for reasons that will become very apparent. About 15.00 US. Thanks for the video!
Another great video! First: providing you have an earth/ground point from the slats to the tub you will be able to paint the inside of the tub to stop it rusting so leaving the uprights that hold them unpainted should be enough as they are welded into the tub and wouldn't be that hard to replace. Second: have you changed the white balance setting on your camera? the red seems less radioactive than normal.
@@DonnDIY was it just an upgrade or did the other camera meet an untimely end? I killed my gopro because I had it on the bench while I was working, apparently they don't like being near welding...
You dont need to have a conductive tank, if you do decide to paint, make sure it is cleaned thoroughly primed and painted completely. If there is the slightest crack in the paint, water will get in and corrode from the inside, worse than being unpainted.
I'm not sure if it needs to be conductive or not but, if it does, they make conductive paint. There is also weld-through primer that is zinc based and would obviously have to be somewhat conductive.
It is a good idea to paint the pan interior. The cutting current could establish electrolysis and introduce rust and erossion. Current should flow trough metal only (sacrificial plates on which the cuted material rests) and not trough water. Great job!!!
Speaking from ignorance but if you need a conductor under the plasma cutter dirty water conducts electricity. So I cannot see a problem painting the inside. I'm thinking a boating supply shop might be the place to buy the paint.
I just thought about what and how and where I was doing four years ago. We have come a long way and I thank you guys and girls for the support. Cheers!
With an appropriate paint, you can paint the inside of the pan; and the result will look better; however as mentioned below; an anti-rust additive will allow you to leave it unpainted. Or you could do both.
in theory you'll be fine painting the inside bottom and up the sides an inch or so provided the slats keep a ground by touchting bare metal from the bottom somewhere or the sides if your burning paint off you don't have enough water anyway
I was so caught up in Donn making that gorgeous control box, I actually forgot he was making a CNC Plasma Table!! Just for a few minutes. ;-) BE GONE, RUSTY PANEL!!
Я когда то писал что нужен стол для плазменной резки. А тут не стол, а целая плазменная установка с ЧПУ, сделаная в сарае👍👏👏👏. Я не удивлюсь если в скором времени вы собираете револьверный станок для гибки, штамповки и вырубки металла.
You should check out Stuff Made Here, where he implemented a plotter alongside the CNC plasma cutter to be able to draw accurate fold line onto the work piece all in one go.
Check out my other videos here: th-cam.com/users/DonnDIYvideos
Welding equipment borrowed from Spetselektroodi AS, Estonia:
Fronius TransSteel 2700 welder
Optrel Crystal 2.0 Welding Helmet
Hypertherm Powermax 45 XP plasma cutter
Gostei parabéns, estou aguardando os próximos episódios...
Блиииин... Столько времени смотрю все ролики,и что-то мне иногда навеевает... Упс - и наши родные электрощиты с нашей древней начинкой ))) Впечатляет!
В старину лет 40..50 назад делали хорошо и крепкие ящики. Их еще на лет 40 хватит.
These videos make my day when they drop.
Thanks for watching!
Great video as always! I also enjoyed the non-obtrusive background music. Look forward to seeing you add another homebuilt machine to your collection.
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There is no need to paint the interior of the pan. Adding Borax or another rust preventer to the water is plenty. Mine is 2.5 years old, cutting near daily, no rust. reply if you want a video link, don't want to spam you
Thanks for the info! Much appreciated. 👍
It’s great seeing TH-camrs supporting other TH-camrs. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Coming along nicely
Каждый раз жду следующее видео..)) красава 🤘
If you're worried about corrosion in the pan, would a sacrificial zinc anode be an option?
Although either way, if you can't paint it, some kind of pickling/passivation treatment might still be an option, or you could add a corrosion inhibitor to the water itself.
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Maravilhoso , trabalho fantástico, parabéns 👏👏👍👍
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Outstanding!
Awesome build, cant wait to see it operate
Me neither!
Imagine the possibilities... judging from the tracked vehicle you built without a cnc cutter, the next big project will probably be a helicopter.
But seriously, mad respect for you and your builds and your videos. TH-cam's finest 🙂
Thanks man! I really hope this thing will take this channel to the next level. 💪
Outstanding build Donn. Has always I liked,shared. All my best.
Thanks man!
I know I’m few years behind on this video but in case no one has mentioned it you shouldn’t use breakleen on metal u intend to weld apparently even though it evaporates it leaves a coating and when welded on it emits a pretty harmful gas I was always thought to prep with acetone to avoid that
Another thought. Paint the inside and ground the slats. Would the ground wire for the slats be in the way?
Epoxy paint for the inside might have been a good option on the inside of your pan.
The welding contractor where I work replaced the top end of stainless steel disconnect boxes removed from discontinued equipment, which is about 1/3 the cost of new ones.
I know this is way after the fact.
I would paint the pan inside and out, just leave the center supports unpainted about 3cm above the welds
You can absolutely paint the inside of the water box 👍
Maybe it’s a good idea to secure the display/pc to the table so it doesn’t fall if someone bumped into it ?
Yup, that was the first thing I thought of. Theres the PC attached to the display also, on the bottom.
Ничего не понял, но очень интересно!!!
I'm no welding expert. I thoroughly enjoy watching you. When you welded the electrical cabinet did you have trouble with excessive heat? I'm assuming it was the thickness of a car body
It was pretty thick material. Not on the rusty parts though. :)
Love the video like always, not crazy about having background music.... Just too much going on imo
Sorry to hear that. I just felt like music this time. 😁
Exelente.....!!!!!!
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Cheers!
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와우 god 👍
Thanks!
Could you do weld through primer on the inside?
I gust paint bad rusty bits with muric acid,
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with how much you use grinders im surprised you didn't rather get a grinder cnc machine.. lmao. you have a portable plas but never even use it
Plasma creates a lot of smoke and fine dust compared to the angle grinder. That's why.
is that your twin brother? could not tell u 2 apart :D
A friend. 😉
Great machine, comin together already...
What can you tell us about your new ring?
;-)
Thx for the vid!
:-D
That's a fairly new ring, a couple of years now. 😉
@@DonnDIY Never noticed until now, looked so shiny...
:-D
+++7
Полосы оставляемые кисточкой тут абсолютно не важны, главное чтоб очищено от жира было хорошо и не было непрокрасов. Отличное качество, прямо самому захотелось пойти чего нить тоже построить, но работа не дает...
I painted the inside of my tank with POR 15. Used a brush and the finish was high gloss. I read they use it for submerged surfaces so I gave it a try. I’ve drained the pan twice to clean it and see how the POR held up. Still shines and is rock hard. I’ve got a 2x4 pan and use less than a 1/2 pint. Awesome stuff. No signs of damage from the plasma cutter head.
Nice work Donn 👍 it’s coming along great!
Good to see the motorcycle shots in the video 🙂 and I like the nice touch of music too.
I get people that complain about the music I use and others enjoy it. It’s always hard to make everyone happy so I just do what I like 😂
I always knew cats have teleportation capabilities, and now we have proof on video at 13:13.
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LOL
The Matrix clitch ;)
You could paint inside the water table but probably best not to, if you do paint it make sure not to paint the slots for the bars so that the electricity can still get through.
Thanks, that's a great advice!
Nice movie but the Music is very bad
Hell yeah another Donn diy video 😏
I use small foam rollers to paint things like that, and use a foam brush to get into tight spaces where the roller won't fit. Faster and gives a better finish.
Foam rollers are the best. If you add a small nail (drive it in the closed end of the roller) you can pull it out halfway when you are finished and lightly drag the roller across the paint. It will stop the roller from turning. It makes a glass finish with no air bubbles!
Alguém do Brasil? Da like.
Little upset Donn... I haven't got my plane tickets to go help you on the builds. I could as important questions like Why Donn or are you going to grind it too Donn and other various questions that mean little but aggravate a lot. I was supposed to cut some stuff too and if I got bored then go out and take stuff off your truck or how ever you got there so you had to fix to go home? Ah to be so young again...seventy three is not a fun age by looking at how easy that you get around. I sure could slow things down though and half of america would hate the show cause being around people seem to bring out the worst in me. You have a hell of a good channel and hope that you keep it going for years
Отлично! Молодец👍👍👍💪💪💪👏👏👏
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You are the best
I can see his aesthetic sense in every detail of his crafting, from the careful chamfering to the rounding of the boards.
Could have used a roller to paint with instead of spray, faster and cleaner that way and looks better than brush :-)
Oh and you can electroplate the inside with zink for corrosion protection and still have it conductive to use with the plasma cutter :-)
Yup, a roller makes a better finish for sure. Brush is easier to wash... 😆
Привіт! Дуже суперова робота,з мене лайкос 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
BGMウザイ
Клевый станок!
Making my day agian, looking GOOD!!
Cheers man!
I looked at the space and cost of a fully equipped PC. monitor, keyboard and mouse and opted for an offline controller instead with a MPG pendant. PC is in the air conditioned office for design. An offline controller can replace the CNC PC and breakout board. A 4 axis controller such as the DDCSV2.1 is about the cost of just Mach 3 license. I take the G-Code files on a thumb drive, plug it in, use the pendant to home and probe, then clear the DRO, and start. An offline controller without pendant is a little over $160. With a pendant, it is a little over 200, but you probably want a MPG pendant anyway. Great build. Are you using Mach 3 or Mach 4 or some other CNC software? I've started playing with Linux CNC, but as a real time CNC, it does not work with USB serial breakout boards, so you need a real parallel printer port and breakout board. The parallel break out boards for 4 axis is very inexpensive, often under $10. The cable cost more than the breakout board.
Question... where did you buy the rails and motor for the cnc ? And do you upload your plans or something? Just stumbled upon your channel got instantly hooked on! Great work, greetings from Switzerland
Just wondering if your football team is that Orange colour!
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Nice setup. My only complaint is actually for your safety. If you fancy having a ring, I'd take it off in a shop. Nothing worse than seeing the skin peel off like a gloved finger. I have seen it during my service in the armed forces. Not a pretty sight although pretty amazing how it just peeled off leaving nothing but the flesh. You never forget. ☺
Your water pan is way better looking than mine. I just clip my ground wire to the metal I am cutting. Your plasma machine is a lot better than mine also but the building is a great adventure.
I enjoy the adventure. I've learned so much and ultimately that's what's important in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
May be you can try CATHODIC PROTECTION AGAINST CORRISION. BY USING A DIRECT CURRENT WITH SUITABLE AMP.
Not sure if anyone else has commented about brake clean and welding. Please be very careful, or try a different degreaser. If brake clean gets vaporized by high heat like welding, and the fumes get inhaled. It can hurt you very very badly, or kill. Cheers!
Hey. I have one warning about using breake cleaner and than welding on that surface. If you use breake cleaner it seams that everythinh vapours up. But it doesn't. When you go weld on that chromium vapours are made. And chrome is one of the worst thing for your brain cells. That gas kills the most brain cells. So stay away from breake cleaner when welding.
The best thing to use is acetone. I really hope you see that comment.
Вай Donny👍
Good evening Donn, great video 👍👍 !! Great full that you allow us to follow along with you. It’s always enlightening to see your projects and see how you fabricate your different projects and how you recycle parts and pieces from around your place. Thanks for sharing with us and keep up the good work and videos. Fred.
I'm 3 years late but if you want to be able to paint the inside of the tray to protect it from rust but still need it to conduct, weld on a bolt, screw several nuts on it (to protect the threads), paint the inside then unscrew the top nut, and install a bare copper fly-lead onto the bolt...the fly-lead gives you a path to the ground bolt on the bottom of the tray while the nuts should help keep the bolt from rusting out...
And if the bolt does rust out, you can always cut it off, weld on a replacement and touch up the paint on the tray where you scuffed it off with the cutter...
Довольно такой прикольный будит станок🤘
You must grind off the paint from the grounding bolts inside the box. Paint is an insulator.
Please make sure to fix this, it's important.
Ironic to have to use a grinder to cut a top for the box, that's for a plasma cutter than will make it in seconds. :)
Maybe galvanising with zinc could be good for conductivity and protection.
submerge box in regular white vinegar for couple days
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I would like to help! I can sweep the workshop
Another excellent project so far. I love your builds. I run CNC machines every day and I have a very small suggestion: use a flexible keyboard for reasons that will become very apparent. About 15.00 US. Thanks for the video!
Aah, might wan't to look into flexible keyboards then. Cheers! 🤘
The best part of the video is at 15:18 where that horrible beep beep beep beep beep etc background music? finishes.
you changed the style of the videos👎
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This is f-ing awesome! Excellent work! Keep that premium content coming!
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Another great video!
First: providing you have an earth/ground point from the slats to the tub you will be able to paint the inside of the tub to stop it rusting so leaving the uprights that hold them unpainted should be enough as they are welded into the tub and wouldn't be that hard to replace.
Second: have you changed the white balance setting on your camera? the red seems less radioactive than normal.
It's another camera. The red is less radioactive indeed. 😆
@@DonnDIY was it just an upgrade or did the other camera meet an untimely end?
I killed my gopro because I had it on the bench while I was working, apparently they don't like being near welding...
You dont need to have a conductive tank, if you do decide to paint, make sure it is cleaned thoroughly primed and painted completely. If there is the slightest crack in the paint, water will get in and corrode from the inside, worse than being unpainted.
Sounds like you'be had experience with that. Thanks for pitching in! 💪
Good work, good video, terrible music.
Nice job as usual, looks like it will be a great addition to your set up. And by the way. Dewalt let's go, hook my man up.
Despite your efforts DeWalt has not contacted me. Should I make the first step? 😁
@@DonnDIY I am going to send them an email with a link to your channel. Together we will prevail. It may be a slow process but it is a process.😅
I'm not sure if it needs to be conductive or not but, if it does, they make conductive paint. There is also weld-through primer that is zinc based and would obviously have to be somewhat conductive.
Have to look into that!
It is a good idea to paint the pan interior. The cutting current could establish electrolysis and introduce rust and erossion. Current should flow trough metal only (sacrificial plates on which the cuted material rests) and not trough water.
Great job!!!
That's what I thought but wasn't quite sure.
Speaking from ignorance but if you need a conductor under the plasma cutter dirty water conducts electricity. So I cannot see a problem painting the inside. I'm thinking a boating supply shop might be the place to buy the paint.
That's a good point.
You should really enjoy that machine : ) .
Great work man, I have really enjoyed watching you grow this channel and the evolution of your workspace and tools. Thanks for the video!
I just thought about what and how and where I was doing four years ago. We have come a long way and I thank you guys and girls for the support. Cheers!
With an appropriate paint, you can paint the inside of the pan; and the result will look better; however as mentioned below; an anti-rust additive will allow you to leave it unpainted. Or you could do both.
Maybe an additive is a way to go...
Fantastic as always. Excited to see it finished and fully operational
Yup, I want to see it finished too
Лайкос 👍
:)
in theory you'll be fine painting the inside bottom and up the sides an inch or so provided the slats keep a ground by touchting bare metal from the bottom somewhere or the sides if your burning paint off you don't have enough water anyway
Thanks for the info! I appreciate it!
As usual - great work, Donn. In my opinion you are one of the best and most capable all-rounders here on YT !
I can only say thank you very much for coming back and watching the videos I produce. I appreciate it!
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Another awesome video man! Keep up the 🔥 content!
Cheers!
donny is making ikea furniture awsome
Coming along nicely! We added this video to our homemade tools forum this week :)
If the channel does not work out.....get a job at IKEA.
I once got lost at IKEA. There's a saying that the meatballs IKEA serves in the restaurants are made of people that got lost at IKEA. 😆
Do what makes you happy. That’s how you got started. Every content maker goes through these fases. Ow yea..music is totally fine 👍💪
Awesome work! But you need to remove the paint from the grounding bolts. Why not using mach3 or linuxCNC for the machine?
I was so caught up in Donn making that gorgeous control box, I actually forgot he was making a CNC Plasma Table!! Just for a few minutes. ;-) BE GONE, RUSTY PANEL!!
very happy to have a mute button
Я когда то писал что нужен стол для плазменной резки. А тут не стол, а целая плазменная установка с ЧПУ, сделаная в сарае👍👏👏👏. Я не удивлюсь если в скором времени вы собираете револьверный станок для гибки, штамповки и вырубки металла.
Мне нужен станок для гибки металла!
Thanks for sharing that!
Your videos are better without music. No more music, please.
You should check out Stuff Made Here, where he implemented a plotter alongside the CNC plasma cutter to be able to draw accurate fold line onto the work piece all in one go.