Brian, i have enjoyed this heavy aircraft series a lot. I am looking forward to the B36 episode. Thanks again for your efforts Best Wishes to You and Your Family.
Do a video on Jack Northrop’s flying wings. What the Horton brothers had, and did, and proposed. Being Mostly proposals…. Jack Northrop actually produced.
Yup...at the end of this one I say that I was thinking of including Nakajima G10N Fugaku, Northrop YB-35 and Convair B-36. But I'll do them later and add to the playlist!
@@worldofwarbirds …. No disrespect to the Hortons intended. However other than in specific areas I don’t see the German technology as a generation ahead of the allies. Ballistic rocketry being a big exception.
@@Idahoguy10157 don’t forget the medical advances made possible by human research in The camps. Most modern medecine and procedures is based on their findings. The Panther copy Abrams is again useless in Ukr. The US helmet is a copy of a german design. V1, V2, guided missiles, jets, helicopters, AIS subs, drones…all are avantgarde engineering
I am sorry to say, but northrop was no where near the horren projects. I'm pretty sure, that the b2 is heavily inspired by hortens design of ho 9 and ho 18
These videos were very interesting but one video was missing as I only saw four of them: 1) Me 264, 2) FW Ta 400, 3) He 277, 4) Ho 18 ... where is the other one?
Very interesting design. Only one major problem...engine reliability! No German jet engine of the time would have stood up to the rigors of flights that long. Durable engine materials had not yet been developed. 🤷♂
That B2 analogy is getting old. Ever since heavier than air aviation became possible, there were enthusiasts who were fascinated by the idea of making an aircraft that was "just wing", falling prey to the idea that "surely this must be the most efficient aircraft" (It isn't). The Hortens weren't the first, nor the last (but probably among the most tenacious and purist (along with Jack Northrop)). Though the Go 229 is often called Ho 229, in the Horten's counting it was the Ho 9
I'm very much looking forward to a video (or two!) on the YB-35 and B-36. But I hope that when you do the one on the B-36, you look at how well the original design would have performed over Europe; i.e., no jet engines and with the retractable gun turrets kept in place. And if you still have any room, maybe a video on the Junkers EF-132? Of all the Amerika Bomber proposals, it was the only one that actually kinda-sorta got built and put into service (albeit as a post-war airliner rather than a bomber).
Interesting you mentioned time travel to see the stealth bomber. In reality the Stealth Bomber was influences by Jack Northrop who was influenced by the Horton’s. 😊
Yeah, you might want to look at the reliability of Jumo 004 engines. The HeS 011 never got built even after the war. it was a dead-end concept. You need to remember that engineers who failed to provide cool ideas got shipped to the Eastern front to die or freeze. Consequently there was no shortage of cool but unrealistic designs.,
600 mph is not "just under supersonic" - at sea level supersonic is about 760 mph dropping to 680 mph at 30,000 ft, getting from 600 mph to near supersonic is tough due to the square law of drag. Also you can take that 600 mph value with a bucket of salt. The three Horten Ho 229 test flights did not reach anything like that value & much of what was claimed was by Reimar Horten after the war in the 1950s - there are no extant paper records of the actual achieved performance. According to Horten test flights seemed to indicate the POTENTIAL for great speed, perhaps a maximum of 977 km/h (606 mph). Horten is known to have played a self-promotional game with the facts after the war to gain employment as an aircraft designer so all his claims must be checked & double checked. After the war he reinvented history claiming radar stealth was part of the design when in fact this isn't true.
I wanted to show the goal of the program (I used the image for all 5 videos in the series). As none of the Amerika Bombers actually succeeded in making it, I used a theoretical plane dreamed up by AI.
American bombs from Germany were not intended to bomb the USA but to bomb the Soviet Union first hand and not the USA. You are completely wrong. the soviet union is closer to germany than the usa. To bomb the USA, and then fly from Germany. You count on a lot of fuel and few bombs or one bomb. So the Soviet Union is closer, more bombs and less fuel and it is closer to reach Vlauvostok in the Eastern Soviet Union. You are dead wrong, Sorrrryyyy
I love the work! Great job, and remember the work you put out here will go a long way in preserving history for the future. ;)
Yes, as we are losing our heroes from WW2, it makes us realize that we are all now the stewards of this knowledge and have a duty to pass it on.
Fun fact is that the endurance of the bomber was actually more than the life cycle of the engines, they would require an overhaul mid flight!
That’s true! And would be quite the feat while underway!!
I love this channel. Thank you for your work. Excellent
Glad you enjoy it!
Great informative series. Thanks for making them. I really appreciate and enjoy your channel!
I'm glad you enjoy it!
Jack Northrup found the flying wings to be unstable and hard to fly. You needed powerful computers which were found by the 1980s.
Right. I was actaully surprised that they were able to fly the early ones at all.
Brian, i have enjoyed this heavy aircraft series a lot. I am looking forward to the B36 episode.
Thanks again for your efforts
Best Wishes to You and Your Family.
Thanks!
Thanks for the Superthanks!
Seeing a formation of these things would have been a scene right out of H. G. Wells' Things to Come.
Do a video on Jack Northrop’s flying wings. What the Horton brothers had, and did, and proposed. Being Mostly proposals…. Jack Northrop actually produced.
Yup...at the end of this one I say that I was thinking of including Nakajima G10N Fugaku, Northrop YB-35 and Convair B-36. But I'll do them later and add to the playlist!
@@worldofwarbirds …. No disrespect to the Hortons intended. However other than in specific areas I don’t see the German technology as a generation ahead of the allies. Ballistic rocketry being a big exception.
@@Idahoguy10157 don’t forget the medical advances made possible by human research in The camps. Most modern medecine and procedures is based on their findings. The Panther copy Abrams is again useless in Ukr. The US helmet is a copy of a german design. V1, V2, guided missiles, jets, helicopters, AIS subs, drones…all are avantgarde engineering
I am sorry to say, but northrop was no where near the horren projects. I'm pretty sure, that the b2 is heavily inspired by hortens design of ho 9 and ho 18
I subscribed to your excellent channel. I'd read about these planes before, but you provided me with a condensed refresher. Thank you.
Welcome aboard!
Great Info thanks so much for putting it together.
My pleasure!
Love the rare aircraft videos.
As long as people watch them, I'll keep making them!
These videos were very interesting but one video was missing as I only saw four of them:
1) Me 264, 2) FW Ta 400, 3) He 277, 4) Ho 18 ... where is the other one?
Gosh sorry about that, the Heinkel He277 was never added to the "Amerika Bomber" playlist! I have fixed it and thanks for letting me know!
Very interesting design. Only one major problem...engine reliability! No German jet engine of the time would have stood up to the rigors of flights that long. Durable engine materials had not yet been developed. 🤷♂
Yes, you are right. This whole program was not based in reality!
Great video I would love to see the Horton plane restored and maybe just do taxiing not flying that might be a bit dangerous
I would absolutely love for you to do a serious vid on the Haunebu.
That is an interesting story all right!
@@worldofwarbirdsThere is an EXTREMELY rare book : FROM THE V - 1 To Mars : The Nazi Space Program. Ballentine Press.
Scoop this one: the JUNKERS 4,000Hp aero steam turbine. Intended for a high altitude long range superbomber.
Thank you. Interesting and entertaining.
Glad you enjoyed it
Why is this thing all over the tubes right now?
The Ho18? I swear I wasn't copy-catting! I had always intended to profile it along with the other Amerika Bombers!
That B2 analogy is getting old. Ever since heavier than air aviation became possible, there were enthusiasts who were fascinated by the idea of making an aircraft that was "just wing", falling prey to the idea that "surely this must be the most efficient aircraft" (It isn't).
The Hortens weren't the first, nor the last (but probably among the most tenacious and purist (along with Jack Northrop)).
Though the Go 229 is often called Ho 229, in the Horten's counting it was the Ho 9
The guy is obsessed with aerodynamics but adds fixed landing gear?
Yeah, I thought the same thing...
I'm very much looking forward to a video (or two!) on the YB-35 and B-36. But I hope that when you do the one on the B-36, you look at how well the original design would have performed over Europe; i.e., no jet engines and with the retractable gun turrets kept in place. And if you still have any room, maybe a video on the Junkers EF-132? Of all the Amerika Bomber proposals, it was the only one that actually kinda-sorta got built and put into service (albeit as a post-war airliner rather than a bomber).
I hadn't run into that one yet, but I have added it to my list! Thank you!
Nice One! Fascinating and Instructive ~ Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it!
i always wonder from which airfields did they intended to fly (and service) and with what fuel???
Yes, they hadn't really gotten to those details...
Great video...👍
Thank you!
Great, loved it.
Very Cool, thank you.
Glad you liked it!
@@worldofwarbirds Yes!
Interesting you mentioned time travel to see the stealth bomber. In reality the Stealth Bomber was influences by Jack Northrop who was influenced by the Horton’s. 😊
It's an interesting web of influences. Don't worry - Jack Northrop and his wings deserve special attention and they will get it in time.
600 MPH is fast and just under supersonic and a tad faster than a modern airliner.
Yeah, you might want to look at the reliability of Jumo 004 engines. The HeS 011 never got built even after the war. it was a dead-end concept. You need to remember that engineers who failed to provide cool ideas got shipped to the Eastern front to die or freeze. Consequently there was no shortage of cool but unrealistic designs.,
600 mph is not "just under supersonic" - at sea level supersonic is about 760 mph dropping to 680 mph at 30,000 ft, getting from 600 mph to near supersonic is tough due to the square law of drag. Also you can take that 600 mph value with a bucket of salt. The three Horten Ho 229 test flights did not reach anything like that value & much of what was claimed was by Reimar Horten after the war in the 1950s - there are no extant paper records of the actual achieved performance. According to Horten test flights seemed to indicate the POTENTIAL for great speed, perhaps a maximum of 977 km/h (606 mph). Horten is known to have played a self-promotional game with the facts after the war to gain employment as an aircraft designer so all his claims must be checked & double checked. After the war he reinvented history claiming radar stealth was part of the design when in fact this isn't true.
Thank You Sir 👍
You are Welcome! 👍
You can't jettison landing gear after takeoff. That's takeoff gear!
Touché
It's HortEn, dammit! Nothing to do with Tim's
Fixed! As a Canadian I guess I'm brainwashed. I'll have a double double with an apple cruller please.
Why show an AI generated image of a plane that didn't exit in any form?
It cheapens the entire video.
I wanted to show the goal of the program (I used the image for all 5 videos in the series). As none of the Amerika Bombers actually succeeded in making it, I used a theoretical plane dreamed up by AI.
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American bombs from Germany were not intended to bomb the USA but to bomb the Soviet Union first hand and not the USA. You are completely wrong. the soviet union is closer to germany than the usa. To bomb the USA, and then fly from Germany. You count on a lot of fuel and few bombs or one bomb. So the Soviet Union is closer, more bombs and less fuel and it is closer to reach Vlauvostok in the Eastern Soviet Union. You are dead wrong, Sorrrryyyy
There was a "Ural Bomber" program and then an "Amerika Bomber" program. I agree that the Amerika one was pretty impractical, but it did exist...
Nonsense of usa, the winner was Stalin
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Thank you so much! I appreciate it!