Thank you so much man. I was preparing for my exams and got stuck on balancing, after watching your video I understood everything properly. Keep doing ur job 👍
Nice Job Steve, I don't think you could have purchased anything any better. It looks to work very good. I really like the details, like the soft feet to protect surfaces you set up on. Take Care and Stay Safe. Bob
Steven, Great work all around. From what I could see that surface finish looked very good. That wheel balancer is a great addition to your grinding tooling.
Hi Steve. I think I'm going to make a balancing frame in the near future after seeing yours. I've seen commercial ones but they are usually pricey or broken. I have a wheel on the shelf that goes around turning my grinder into a Wacker plate. Good little project.
Thank you Robin. I have to admit that I fouled up when I put the stone back on the machine. I went to tighten it up and the stone slipped on the hub because I had not tightened it enough. Had to tighten it up, redress it, and put in back on the balancer to true it up. Lesson learned. But the finish is almost where I want it. I did notice that the finish improved as I ground which leads me to think that I need to let the spindle warm up longer before starting to grind.
Is the rod + other pieces used here to hold the wheel across the balancer coming from inside the surface grinding machine? Im almost ready to baiance but dont have a way to hold the wheel across the balancer like that.
The shaft or arbor that the wheel is mounted on is a separate part that I machined specifically for balancing the wheel assembly. Here is a link to the video. the threads that I cut on the arbor ended up not being necessary as the wheel hub fit on the taper tight enough that the nut was not needed. th-cam.com/video/NWrYen7b19Q/w-d-xo.html
Hi Steve. What is the thinnest wheel that you'd drill on? Looks like this one was at least 1/2". What about 1/4" or even 1/8" How do you balance those? Also, want to thank you for these great videos. Keep 'em coming..
A 1/4 wheel would not require much balancing because of the decreased mass. I would be very cautious about drilling one. An 1/8 wheel once dressed would be just fine without balancing it. The other way of balancing is to use weights in the form of offset shims that would rotate around the center of the hub. They are a bit of a pain to use because you have to keep loosening the hub and moving the shim until you get it right. There are also hubs that have movable balance weights. Thanks for watching and commenting. I think that Randy Richard has a video on the different types of balancing scenarios.
The wheel is actually one that I have used. I had it off of the hub and dressed it again after I reassembled it before balancing. Thanks for commenting. I didn't show all of the steps. Maybe I should have but my intention was to showcase the balancer not the entire process.
I was wondering if that was the case. Not doing it could have been one of the reasons it was off so much...other than the wheel just being out of balance that much. Take care.
The drill is am old masonry drill no chance of ruining it. I have since started using balancing rings mounted on the hub. A much better solution. Was never a big fan of drilling the wheel even though it is an industry accepted procedure.
good video but its far faster and more accurate to place any surface ground item on top and place a large steel ball bearing on it and adjust till it does not move.
I suppose that would work just fine but I see myself chasing that ball all over the shop LOL. I am actually working on a sequel to this video because I have never been happy with removing grinding wheel material to balance it. There are few reasons for that I will cover in the video. When I was grinding professionally I had a different style balancer that just needed to be close to level and I added weight to the hub to balance it. However the wheel was 24" in diameter. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@sharkrivermachine no problem but the ball works well on everything I even use it level machines. On my surface plate it sits on a big wood table top I sawed out and it has your three identical screws out at the corners for leveling the plate. the steel balls are cheap simply by googling them in sometimes they call them monkey fist balls--I have them all sizes from 1 inch to over two inches. For balancing the wheels I made one of wood with the 2 rails glued in and it also has the 3 leveling screws. I take various weights even pennies and tape them on till balanced then jb weld them on the wheel itself up near the hub on the inside of wheel. I want to get some lead shot like from shot gun shell and use that method and simply pat the shot into the jb weld. works great I even use the method on pedestal grinder wheels. I make and sell balancing arbors also. any small weights jb welded to the side of the wheel may sound funny but nothing gets them off of there I even used an old discard wheel as a test and tried to bash a penny off the next day with a chisel and it cant be done.
I didn't show it on video but I did check the arbor and hub prior to mounting it. As a matter of fact there was some tape and adhesive on the hub that I had to scrape off with a razor blade. Thanks for watching and commenting.
This is a horrible way of doing this!! Just get a arbor with weights. You risk damaging the wheel and exploding when using it. I highly recommend no one doing it this way.
I have been grinding for 40 years and never blew up a wheel. I have had many different arbor styles including some with removable weights. Trying to find adjustable weight arbors is easier said than done. I would never use this method on a wheel under 1/2" thick. This method is used industry wide and is also demonstrated on several other TH-cam videos.
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Thank you so much man. I was preparing for my exams and got stuck on balancing, after watching your video I understood everything properly. Keep doing ur job 👍
I am glad to be of some help. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Very nicely done Steve
I'm enjoying your videos, and learning from them..
Thanks for sharing!
Dan
Thank you for watching and commenting. I was an automotive machinist for over half of my career and I am still learning every day.
Nice Job Steve, I don't think you could have purchased anything any better. It looks to work very good. I really like the details, like the soft feet to protect surfaces you set up on.
Take Care and Stay Safe.
Bob
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Thanks for the video Steve. Nice job.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Like your video Steve. Nice finish. Your new tool works well. 👍
Thank you Ron, I am zeroing in on the finish that I am looking for.
Nice job on the balancer, works great.
Thank you Randy, I am pleased with the results. I still have a details to finish up but it seems to function well.
Steven, Great work all around. From what I could see that surface finish looked very good. That wheel balancer is a great addition to your grinding tooling.
Thank you, I am making progress. Next project is the dresser for the diamond wheel. I will be grinding precision ground stones soon.
It is an interest journey you are on. I am glad you are allowing us to travel with you.
Thank you, it keeps me motivated.
Hi Steve.
I think I'm going to make a balancing frame in the near future after seeing yours. I've seen commercial ones but they are usually pricey or broken.
I have a wheel on the shelf that goes around turning my grinder into a Wacker plate. Good little project.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Nice job Steve on the balancer 🖒nice video
Thnak you, James.
Great job Steve
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Enjoyed Steve!
ATB, Robin
Thank you Robin. I have to admit that I fouled up when I put the stone back on the machine. I went to tighten it up and the stone slipped on the hub because I had not tightened it enough. Had to tighten it up, redress it, and put in back on the balancer to true it up. Lesson learned. But the finish is almost where I want it. I did notice that the finish improved as I ground which leads me to think that I need to let the spindle warm up longer before starting to grind.
I am getting chatter marks in my finishes on my Challenger 618, I think balancing will help! Thanks for sharing the great video.
It will certainly help. I will be shooting a new up-dated video on the subject in the next week or so. Thanks for watching and commenting.
well done Steve!
Thank you, Emma. Making progress.
Nice work and hello from Las Vegas millwrights
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Drill disc Is dangerous 😮
I am not thrilled with it either but it is an industry accepted process and I have been grinding for over 50 years.
Excellent
Thank you so much 😀
Is the rod + other pieces used here to hold the wheel across the balancer coming from inside the surface grinding machine? Im almost ready to baiance but dont have a way to hold the wheel across the balancer like that.
The shaft or arbor that the wheel is mounted on is a separate part that I machined specifically for balancing the wheel assembly. Here is a link to the video. the threads that I cut on the arbor ended up not being necessary as the wheel hub fit on the taper tight enough that the nut was not needed. th-cam.com/video/NWrYen7b19Q/w-d-xo.html
Hi Steve. What is the thinnest wheel that you'd drill on? Looks like this one was at least 1/2". What about 1/4" or even 1/8" How do you balance those? Also, want to thank you for these great videos. Keep 'em coming..
A 1/4 wheel would not require much balancing because of the decreased mass. I would be very cautious about drilling one. An 1/8 wheel once dressed would be just fine without balancing it. The other way of balancing is to use weights in the form of offset shims that would rotate around the center of the hub. They are a bit of a pain to use because you have to keep loosening the hub and moving the shim until you get it right. There are also hubs that have movable balance weights. Thanks for watching and commenting. I think that Randy Richard has a video on the different types of balancing scenarios.
Looks like the balancer works nicely. Did you true up the wheel on the grinder before you started doing the balancing?
The wheel is actually one that I have used. I had it off of the hub and dressed it again after I reassembled it before balancing. Thanks for commenting. I didn't show all of the steps. Maybe I should have but my intention was to showcase the balancer not the entire process.
I was wondering if that was the case. Not doing it could have been one of the reasons it was off so much...other than the wheel just being out of balance that much. Take care.
Hi nice video, question where can i buy that taper arbor shaft to balance the wheel? Thanks
I built it in a pervious video. Thanks for watching and commenting
if you dont want to risk ruining a drill, for stuff like that i just used JB weld to cement some SiC powder on the end of a 10mm linear rod lol
The drill is am old masonry drill no chance of ruining it. I have since started using balancing rings mounted on the hub. A much better solution. Was never a big fan of drilling the wheel even though it is an industry accepted procedure.
What arbor did you use?
I made my own arbor, it is shown in an earlier video. Thank you for watching.
Muito bom
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good video but its far faster and more accurate to place any surface ground item on top and place a large steel ball bearing on it and adjust till it does not move.
I suppose that would work just fine but I see myself chasing that ball all over the shop LOL. I am actually working on a sequel to this video because I have never been happy with removing grinding wheel material to balance it. There are few reasons for that I will cover in the video. When I was grinding professionally I had a different style balancer that just needed to be close to level and I added weight to the hub to balance it. However the wheel was 24" in diameter. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@sharkrivermachine no problem but the ball works well on everything I even use it level machines. On my surface plate it sits on a big wood table top I sawed out and it has your three identical screws out at the corners for leveling the plate. the steel balls are cheap simply by googling them in sometimes they call them monkey fist balls--I have them all sizes from 1 inch to over two inches. For balancing the wheels I made one of wood with the 2 rails glued in and it also has the 3 leveling screws. I take various weights even pennies and tape them on till balanced then jb weld them on the wheel itself up near the hub on the inside of wheel. I want to get some lead shot like from shot gun shell and use that method and simply pat the shot into the jb weld. works great I even use the method on pedestal grinder wheels. I make and sell balancing arbors also. any small weights jb welded to the side of the wheel may sound funny but nothing gets them off of there I even used an old discard wheel as a test and tried to bash a penny off the next day with a chisel and it cant be done.
Why not check first that the mounting discs are balanced. Then add the grinding wheel.
I didn't show it on video but I did check the arbor and hub prior to mounting it. As a matter of fact there was some tape and adhesive on the hub that I had to scrape off with a razor blade. Thanks for watching and commenting.
this noise you have is like because of bad bearings in the spindle, the sound of the spindle must be uniform but yours sound like combustion engine
Bearings are good, V belt was worn and has been replaced. This grinder is used several times each week and is working great.
This is a horrible way of doing this!!
Just get a arbor with weights. You risk damaging the wheel and exploding when using it. I highly recommend no one doing it this way.
I have been grinding for 40 years and never blew up a wheel. I have had many different arbor styles including some with removable weights. Trying to find adjustable weight arbors is easier said than done. I would never use this method on a wheel under 1/2" thick. This method is used industry wide and is also demonstrated on several other TH-cam videos.