Emily In Paris: Season 2 - Better or Worse?
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0:00 Intro
4:57 Catching Up
9:27 Emily 2.0
19:11 Characters Ups & Downs + New Guy
29:56 Some More Backlash
45:16 Conclusion - บันเทิง
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Quick correction: Petra is not a Russian name, I got that wrong. BUT MY POINT STILL STANDS!
Also, feels fitting to end my first year on TH-cam with the show that started it all. Thank you for sticking with me this whole time. I'm very lucky.
Love & KitKat to you all! ♥️
Love your content dude, the only good thing about this show is that it introduced us to you!
I think everyone quickly checked 😅 thank you for pointing it out in focus and for suggesting awesome Ukrainian people. Your videos are great and you are the best!
No problem, Spaceman! Glad to still be here. Keep on being friendly \o/
Thanks so much, Happy TH-cam Anniversary! 😘🎊Your Channel helped me get into so Many shows this year, so here's to many more enjoyable years! 💝
You truly came full circle, Dylan!
And yes, your point still stands!
I can't wait for this show to have an Italian man with dark hair, olive skin and a mustache who works at a pizzeria and we find out is secretly a mafia boss
Every guy in Italy is a mafia boss at this point😅
Either that or a caricature: “It’s-a-me Mario Bergoglio and I like pizza pasta pesto!”
Wait for it, there is still season 3! I’m waiting for the Portuguese cleaning lady or the Portuguese construction guy 😂
Omg sounds like an Episode story.
And has oily hair
The irony of Emily comparing Paris to Ratatouille back in season one is that Ratatouille was more respectful of French culture and its people than Emily in Paris is
💀 I love this comment
literally 💀 they named their protagonist Alfredo linguini and were STILL more respectful than Emily in Paris
And they gave him an American accent
Watatouillee
@@mayfielcl Your comment translated to “They will be tattooed” according to TH-cam’s translator
another thing about Petra is that her colorful and weird clothes, bright makeup, and lousy pronunciation of words are treated as tasteless and uncultural. While if Emily does all those things, she is still stylish, chic, and quirky. (even when Emily's outfits are a fashion disaster) So the subconscious message is that American women > eastern European women ???
you're totally right
Wrong
No but fr like why is Emily made look like such a perfect person just bc shes amerian?
If a show is made about a character involved with "fashion", you can basicaly count on "the fashion" being a total disaster. Dunno why, but it seems like a thing.
Subconscious? Nah, they're pretty open about it
The showrunner has recently commented on the Petra debacle. He apologised, but was SO CLUELESS as to why this was wrong… He said it was "bad timing" due to the war (NO, it was bad regardless of the war), and then explained that "they didn’t even plan Petra to be specifically Ukrainian - it could be anyone from that region: Russian, Romanian, whatever." Sooo basically: "We didn’t mean to be racist towards Ukrainians. We meant to be racist towards the whole region. We don’t even care whether or not they’re all the same thing".
Typical ignorant racist gringo... every time you think Darren Star coulden't be worst he find a way to surpas himself. Or more like show his true colors.
romanians are not slavic wtf
@@krakenroll. They're still eastern european, and surrounded by slavic nations, so they're obviously slavic (at least unless you know the third thing about people from that entire half of a continent). I would never expect racists to be able to differentiate between people of different cultures unless they're specifically trained to.
@@LibertyMonkno, they are not slavic. Yes, they are Eastern European, but they are a Latin culture.
@@davidribeiro1064 did you read the entire comment that you're replying to? They clearly said it ironically, as in: they recognise that Romanians are not Slavic, but the creators of the series don't.
Showrunners: Yes, indeed, we see your point and we apologize for being insensitive towards French culture! ... So a Ukrainian walks into a bar....!
This show is only as racist as the people who make it
@@LuisSierra42 Ffffff no, racism is racism no matter whom the subject matter is
@@falconeshield he didn’t say it wasn’t racist he said that the racism of the show was a reflection of the racism of the people that wrote it
@@user-uj2ku5fk7c exactly
@@falconeshield did you read the comment
i also disliked how much the writers framed gay characters as overtly sex-obsessed ?? Nearly all the straight characters are given subtle/romantic storylines, whilst the gay characters got jokes being horny or surrounding themselves with naked men ??
Sadly this is done waaaay too much in the industry, being overly sexual is part of the Hollywood gay stereotype
I know it does seem like a stereotype but then there is me and my other gay friends who DO make a lot of sex jokes. However, the sex jokes we make are actually funny because we aren't written by straight people who don't even know how gay sex even works.
But that stereotype true tho, you want a fake portrayal I really don’t understand you people. You want your cake fight for it got it then realize you don’t like the flavor when you eat it come on now!!
@@richboy12ify Maybe the gay people you know are like that, but not all gay people are like that. So the stereotype may be true for some, but it gets used like that is the case for every gay person.
I hate how the show features a lot of gay men but yet all the female characters are presented as straight. Do all LGBT characters in this show have to be gay men who work in the fashion industry?
They did Camille SO DIRTY. She was introduced as the perfect counterpart to Emily's villain - she's cool, has great style, is a good friend, is good at her job, is charming and cute. and then they devolve her into a man-obsessed angry woman?? uuuugghhhhh
ninja says this was her problem from day1
It gets worse next season
Rather than make Emily become a better person, they just destroyed Camille's character so Emily looks as if she's got "better" just by existing in proximity of Camille's train-crash psychological breakdown.
I thought so too. Camille was cool! Someone you wanted to be friends with. They totally ruined that.
But if they didn’t, she wouldn’t be real, I think. Every person has a trigger, that convert them into an angry monster
I wish a French tream would make a new series "Emily à Paris" where it's basically the same show, but made by people who actually know the cultures presented and the challenges you get living in a country with language/cultural barriers and makes it a good scenario tool.
Sors de ma tête
I wish a French team made "Camille à New York" and fill it with stereotypes about the US
@@emalayon Never!!!
@@ninjamelon3156 That too!
@@ninjamelon3156 I'd love that. Just yee-haw the shit out of it.
Still getting over the fact that this show was nominated for a golden globe.
Idk if that’s worse than a season 2
Even Deborah Cochran, one of the writers, expressed her belief that the more superior "I May Destroy You" was snubbed, and should have been up for some awards.
@@trinaq I May Destroy You is brilliant!
What do you expect from Hollywood?
Again?!
I'm more offended that Emily STILL dresses like a ten-year-old's Barbie Doll after her outfits were _slammed_ by the fashion community
fr like did they learn NOTHING?
Yeah I’m not even into fashion and looking at these clips and being like what the fuck
I know right?? Like, her pattern mixing alone is horrendous
But it's Patricia Field. Pretending ugly ass clothes are fashionable is her specialty.
@@footh1013 IKR but i searched it up and google said that they did this on purpose.
I'm a fan of Lily Collins, and after this and knowing she's PRODUCER in the show, I can't just say is not her fault. She has a voice in the show and can do better. She has responsibility in this too. And the stupid stereotypes in the show just show us the American ignorance of other cultures and how they DON'T CARE ABOUT IT.
The p-producer?!
**he gasps, grabbing the sides of his head**
That can't be!
**He throws himself to the ground, repeatedly screaming nonsense**
I mean it's pretty obvious that it's Darren Star's writing.
You know how to diference between European racism and Gringo racism? European are racist and ignorant, gringos are not only racist, they are also 100% confident in their ignorance.
Of course she is, she got all these hot men. She may be horrible at producing but girl aint stupid
Hates the stereotype Americans give to foreigners then proceeds to stereotype the Americans.
The fact that Emily thinks the "solution" to Camille's problems is to try and set her back up with the boyfriend who will cheat on her with apparently the literal first woman he sees is wild. Not only did she sleep with him, but she thinks she's got some magic power and that if it weren't any other vaguely pretty woman he wouldn't have also cheated is wild. Like, your friend dodged a bullet by leaving him. Set her up with a guy whose genuinely not a dick or help her realize her value as a person is not reliant on some dude. Don't try and set her up with the boyfriend you know will cheat on her. And stop sleeping with the guy holy shit.
well Emily is an awful person and an awful friend so ofc she wouldn't do that lol
I'm Romanian (so neither Russian, NOR Ukrainian), and the portrayal of Petra still was pretty damn offensive to me because that's ALL I ever see us Eastern Europeans portrayed as. We're either simple minded criminals with a thick accent or vampires with a VERY thick accent. The writers of this show really need to open a book, be it a history book, an encyclopedia or a fucking dictionary
Amen. All Americans should open a book for once and pull their heads out of their asses, to hopefully start dealing with their embarrassing ego
US media has a very bad habit of portraying USA'ers as full characters and reducing characters from other countries to (often) inaccurate stereotypes. I think eastern Europeans are some of the worst-treated ones out there. I feel bad for you guys! Greetings from a western European.
My Romanian Priest is from Transylvania.
He is the kindest and gentlest man I have ever met.
really like vampires?:)))as a romanian that is so fucking damn cause literally who cares
I’m from Hungary and yeah I completely agree
Emily breaking the fourth wall felt like my dad “apologizing” but only because we’re in front of a counsellor
THIS ^^^
Agreed! But also, are you okay?
No but 🎶 that’s life 🎶! I have safe housing now, though. I hope y’all are well
@@bunnyfrosting1744 I'm sorry you went through that and I'm glad you're safe, hope things improve for you.
@@bunnyfrosting1744 ❤️❤️
The bit about her having sex with a under-aged guy is actually familiar. Because Friends did that, back in 1995, in the episode "The one with the Ick Factor", in which Monica who is 26 in the show sleeps with a boy who is 17. He did lie about his age, but she did the same. And still I think they managed to do it better there, despite the writers of this show living 25 years in the future in a far more progressive time.
For the record, just don't lie about your age in a sexual context. If you're too young or old for a person, lying doesn't change that and trying to circumvent that issue is just gonna turn out bad for all parties.
I have no idea if 17 was still underage in NY in 1995 (it isn't now), but it certainly is not in Paris. Age of consent in France is 15. So this plot doesn't make a ton of sense. She did nothing illegal.
@@drsnova7313 imagine making moral and ethical judgements based off of legality. would've loved to see you in the antebellum south.
@Dax Medley, I agree with your point. However, the show making a joke based on their age disparity isn't good. It's the show that's making something of her being 12 years older. It definitely has the "ick factor".
@DRSNova I haven't watched the show--I just love listening to Ninja dunk on it--but maybe the show never actually says he's underage. Maybe it's just Ninja that makes this mistake.
@@onii1928 Here in Canada, AOC is 16. I got interested in the argument, so googled a bit, and 16 seems to be a kind of world standard. The only places where it's 18 are places like China and the United Arab Emirates. If some US states want to be like anti-democratic nations with repressive laws, I can't say I'm surprised.
the Ukrainian xenophobia could not have possibly been more horribly timed. xenophobia is always bad but targeting Ukraine specifically is not just punching down, it's punching from the stratosphere to the earth's mantle
It couldn't have had less weight than the asteroid that wiped the fucking dinosaurs out
alright relax pal, they ain't haitians or anything.
So you only think stuff Like that is Bad when ITS "punching down" ?
Racism and xenophobia is bad at any moment.
@@marvin2678 Considering they said "xenophobia is always bad"...no? They're making it clear that the specifics here just make it a lot worse than it would be in a general case, in which it'd already be pretty bad
You seem to not particularly be the greatest at understanding what people are trying to say in the comments you respond to, but this one's kinda egregious-
Best part of season 2: Camille telling Emily she's a "psychotic illiterate"
I believe it was "illiterate sociopath" which is even funnier.
Great!!
Haha yes so true! For fantasy i want Alfie and Emily till end of this story why not yes to that yay!
LOVED that.
The whole season was terrible but the thing with the letters had me wheezing. "I don't understand why you did what you did, just like I don't understand a fucking word in your letter" lmaooo
Best thing- They actually took the criticism and tried to work on it in season 2
Bad thing- They successfully made each character more unlikeable
Preach, a rare case where trying to actively improve the show just made everyone more insufferable. Camille is arguably the one likable character, yet even she can make idiotic decisions, like taking back Gabriel, even after he slept with Emily, and proved that he wasn't a faithful boyfriend!
Why does she have to be likable
@@saint_silver not she, they. Most characters from this show are very unlikable. U cant root for anyone
Idk I kinda liked Emily more this season. But I hoped that Camille had a huge revenge plot planned... but no, she just forgave in minutes
@@antonizajkowski9698 maybe the revenge plot isn't over yet? Like maybe she has something planned to get revenge on Gabriel too by being with him. That's my hope at least, but I can't believe I'm actually still watching lol
So they got tired of being xenophobic towards French people and holding up dumb French stereotypes so they wrote in Alfie to be a "All of England is xenophobic and hate the French" stereotype and Petra to be "All of Eastern Europe are crazy eccentrics who do crime" as her stereotype. Even Emily is the "Americans are annoying tourists who make everyone uncomfortable by basically demanding other cultures change to accommodate them" stereotype. The writers are lazy and racist. They just go with "What negative stereotypes do we know about this culture" and call that combination a character.
It almost cracks me up how little people know about us precisely bc of TV and its portrayal of us. Like a lot of us are just farmers, hence the memes of Ukrainian tractors pulling broken Russian tanks lol.
Making two main characters with hours of screentime somehow still fail the Bechdel Test between Camille and Emily is certainly impressive.
Lily is definitely guilty at some level. She's not a saint at all. She's a producer for fuck's sake and she was bragging so much about the show before it aired.
yeah that's what i was thinking , like how can you act a role knowing very well how Racist and terrible it is...👽 , you would at least be a bit uncomfortable
Yeah... she should be held accountable!
@@Kira-zz3el where tf is she racist ? yall really need to get a life
@@marvin2678 no one said she's racist, the role is
@@tellmewill the role is not racist...its a bit sterotypical about french people ok but lol racist??? his proof for that was a majority white cast in a white country lol thats racism for you ? so is black panther racist ? black people in africa wooow the racism
Imagine if they had leaned in to Emily being super awful and intentionally made her in to a super villain instead trying to redeem her, then it might have become a watchable drama
I'd watch the villain arc.
YESS
Look what happened to Blair Waldorf, she was and still is a masterpiece, because the writers knew she was selfish and insecure and competitive and would do anything to be on top. BUT, she was also very caring and loving to selected people.
You could’ve still made the show a comedy just mine the comedy from how much of an unlikeable asshole she is, it would make the show more crass but it would actually work and could actually make the show funny
Mannnn I that would've been so much better!
The shoplifting “plot line” was so random too, like the show introduces a new character, writes the character to be a stereotype and then the character steals from a supposed designer store with no reason or a lot of dialogue and then abandoned the character all together. Like why did the writers feel the need to add any of that. It wasn’t necessary for plot development and no one ever talks about it. It made absolutely no sense to me
I can only assume it was solely intended to make the protagonist look better by comparison.
You know, a movie about two foreigners in Paris trying to learn the language getting together as friends or on a wacky adventure with only a smattering of a shared language would be a fun movie
I would watch that
That's a real pity about the Ukrainian character, because the concept of an entire episode dedicated to Emily and another foreigner exploring Paris and trying to communicate in French could actually be super rich. Like they could bond over how out-of-place they feel, learn more about each other's separate cultures, Emily could have a breakthrough in speaking French - it could have been a really sweet and poignant episode that genuinely developed Emily's character. But I guess Ukrainian shoplifters are more down Darren's alley.
yeah the way it ended was so dumb and pointless
Yup could have for example inspired emily for a campaign, and since the class is a recurring scene, could have been a stable character
Honestly, that episode felt so unnecessary. I get that they needed Emily to switch to Alfie somehow, but they could have easily shown that it was just too difficult for Emily and Petra to communicate because they don't speak the same language. But what am I talking about, a cringy shop lifting scene was definitely the "funnier" approach
It's also super offensive to me as Ukrainian to see that representation of Ukrainians, like, c'mon could've done better
@@viktorzozulia9258 I get the issue with the portrayal and how it puts Ukrainians in a negative light but people need to remember it's fiction. I think the worse issue is that the Ukranian Minister of Culture has publicly slammed Netflix. The entire country is poised on a potential war with Russia, the Ukraine needs its Western allies and some low level Minister decides to blast a Western company over a piece of fiction?!?! Get a life mate.
Fun fact: With the ending they wrote for Emily in Season 2, Emily Season 3 should not exist because it is realistically not possible for Emily to stay in France anymore, according to French immigration law.
That's what I was wondering after seeing that scene. They don't just give out visas like that lmao
inb4 "emily in britain" after she has to leave or be deported lol
Considering Darren Star casted a Korean woman to play a Chinese woman and thinks "Petra" is a Ukranian name I doubt he'll be familiar with French Immigration laws.
they just renewed the show for another two seasons ://
Yet 2 more seasons are on the way, clearly the show runners do not know anything about immigration laws
as a frenchie who moved in Québec Canada and manages to have language barrier issues with english and even with ppl speaking Qc french, I'd love to see Emily struggling to pass immigration, open her first bank account with a teller who barely know three words of english, struggle looking for the English language option on websites until she realizes that here we use the UK flag for it instead of the US's. You know, concrete examples of the life of a migrant in a country with a different language. Freak out as her fob contract arrives to its end because she thinks she'll be homeless and lose her healthcare, till she realises that things are really different here.... Then you can have fun with little realisations, like how you can go visit countries around the EU with no customs nor border check, how the price you see is what you pay. Thate there are couple more cheeses than "blue" or "mozzarella", that "mozzarella" isn't the plastic brick she grew up with, ...
But no, all we got is an bad rom-com that happens to have some frenchi landscape.
Infinitely better idea
I'm watching this video in (the beginning of) 2024. I'm not Ukrainian, but I am from Eastern Europe and I really really want to thank you for you rage. Everything you said is true and it's honestly uplifting to know that people in the west see it and understand how that kind of stereotypes played for the "comedic" reason impact real humans lives. So thank you.
I couldn't even get through the first episode and you conquered two seasons. Braver than the marines.
Same! Tried watching the first episode when it came out and it was torture. Good thing we have TH-cam commentators to roast these shows for us
Never watched a single minutes. These video essays give me life
Marines are overrated
y'all legitimately do the grunt work for us simple folk.. much respect ✊
I saw “what’s new on Netflix notif” and saw two season on Emily in Paris, I was like: “hell no”
Also me: “now who’s the mad lad who watched the second season”
He’s a lifesaver, kudos my dude
Emily in Paris had one job: be a show about a basic rich white girl doing basic rich white girl ish and having basic rich white girl problems in Paris. Instead the show tries to make Emily the Jeanne d'Arc /Joan of Arc of self-righteousness.
This! Just be the “Karen” that she is!
Bullshit show
It would've worked better as a satire
@@fulichak6499 I used to think it was satire
It’s the fact that they couldn’t even get the rich part right
I speak Italian, & one of my biggest blunders EVER was getting the way you express time & date mixed up. This resulted in me thinking that the guy I was madly in love with was leaving "At 3pm" when he was actually telling me that he was leaving on the third of the month. To Sardinia. AND THAT I WOULD NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN. Seems like that kind of thing would be great material for a show like this.
Camille's line of thinking:
- Gabriel is being distant with me after money drama with my family
- Emily said Matthiu stood her up
- Matthiu said Emily cheated on him and refused to elaborate further
- Gabriel's frying pan was in Emily's apartment after she cooked a big meal for seven people
- Gabriel's cheating on me with Emily!
After all those hoops Camille jumped through I'm surprised she didn't get gold at the Olympics
Weeks before the bd party, Camille saw it and mentioned it was just like the very special pan he doesn't allow anyone to touch let alone use. She tries to see if his initials are on it but Emily pulls her out knowing they are etched under the handle. Weeks later at the bd party, Camille sees it again and sees the initials. The pan has been there ever since Gabriel was supposed to move.
I don’t understand how hard it is to make a lighthearted show about a girl and fashion without going into some ignorant jokes. People around the world already see us Americans as ignorants and this show is not doing us any favors. It could have been heart warming seeing her over come language barriers, learning things through her and the contrast of idealizing romance and the reality of it.
Honestly we didn't do ourselves any favors when Trump was elected.
No one would've done this, but it would have been awesome if Emily starts the show knowing very little French, and by the end of it, entire scenes of dialogue are completely in French, with English sprinkled here and there
@@MrAragon131 sometimes yall feel like a reality show to us w whats happening there and what kind of headlines we see especially when trump was elected and honestly his whole time in the white house, its definitely been A LOT quieter after biden was elected
2 thoughts:
Don't hire people who have 0 sense of fashion
Don't hire writers who confuse "lighthearted" with "being allowed to make fun of everything and never be hold accountable to the racist and offensive shit they say/do"
It’s times like this where I miss Jane by Design. 😪
Is it possible to have a cast that’s 90% female and still fail the Bechdel test??? Find out in S3 of Emily in Paris
Is that the one where you check if there are dialogues between female characters that don't involve a male love interest?
@@YamiBlake yeah, basically the rule is "two female characters who talk to each other about something other than a man" (not just love interest but in general)
@@YamiBlake Yup
3 and 4, yes, we are getting 2 more
@@lyrqk5829 not only that, I'm pretty sure both women have to be named characters, mostly main characters
How does a show get COUNTRIES against them 💀
I'm a touristic guide in Paris, and I got stuck with a group of 20 people on the Pont des Arts (the bridge with all the locks on it, that was a long time ago, now it's a regular bridge) for 10 minutes because they were shooting that dumb show. We had to wait for them to finish shooting, they were taking the whole bridge, and preventing anyone to cross so it would look like she was alone on it. Who cares if people are working, on a schedule, or with actual American tourists who love and enjoy Paris >.>
I mean....that is kind of how shooting movies and TV works...
Girl that’s literally how shooting movies and tv shows work worldwide 💀
I understand your frustration and there are many reasons to frustrate about this show, but that one was undeserved
Cry about it to your government officials because they got a permit to film there.
@@Jess-Rabbit A lot of people in Paris complained about the terrible rude, invasive and even violent behavior of the people filming the show. Super nasty production.
If you remember, right before the show was officially released, Lilly Collins was BrAGGING about how much she was involved in this show. She had a LARGE part in writing and developing her character, as she HERSELF said. SHE IS EMILY IN PARIS. As soon as the show got backlash she pretended like she had nothing to do with it. COME ON HOLD HER ACCOUNTABLE.
I don't know Lily Collins that well but I get the feeling that she is mostly playing herself and is not faking anything and that is...concerning.
Which explains why she didn't get the role to play Audrey Hepburn. A role that she's been dying to play for years now.
ive loved lily collins for so many years and the fact that she’s probably going to be best known for this show makes me so upset, like EIP will just forever be associated with her and I hate it
she’s a good actress and now her career is likely tainted bc of this
@@user-jg6bu3hc8f oh god I'm overjoyed she didn't get that role, no offence lmfao
@@user-jg6bu3hc8f she didn't, and she never will. A dame like Audrey Hepburn deserves better than being portrayed by a Karen.
If you look at Emily as a metaphor for how US Americans behave and see themselves in the world then you get it. Sadly the writers do not realize it.
The joke is that
Exactly
I think the biggest problem with the show is that it doesn't say "hey watch this silly us girl being dumb in another country! " it says "Look at this smart, beautiful, good-hearted, well-mannered, thoughtul, succesful woman be attacked by the fools wjo don't understad the '''''''american''''''' way of doing things, because it is the only good and correct one".
If the show made Emily the joke, everyone would be pleased, but no, they do the opposite.
Ps: 'american' is between quotation marks because as a latinamerican I cannot call them "americans" as if they were the only fricking country in the entirety of the Americas.
Yep, for a lot of Americans, other countries are just 1) markets for American products 2) factories with low cost workers 3) huge recreation parks. Also, it's offensive for them that not everybody speak perfect English.
As an American… Emily is. “Karen” That’s All.
I've realized that Emily in Paris is just Darren Starr doing a SATC fanfic. It's the story of what if Carrie had been sent to Paris for work and they reconfigured the other three main gals.
reminds me how great Jane The Virgin’s Petra was in contrast. she was a complex character and did shitty things but got growth, admitted her faults and her european background was discussed in an okay way
The whole backlash over Petra is deserved. Eastern Europeans are having enough with their portrayal in American shows...from Serbs and Russians being terrorists to the rest of the Slavic nations being portrayed as stealers and gangsters, or when it comes to women - whores and just blatantly stupid. The amount of xenophobia we, as Eastern Europeans go through in Western Europe is disgusting and is often overlooked because it is seen as a normal thing. For instance, I am from Croatia, when I came to the Netherlands I was called a "bear head" in the bar, it was weird and humiliating. And why do they call us like that? Because they think we look like animals. Thank God we are finally shedding light on xenophobia towards Eastern Europeans and that people are speaking about it more.
@@annaborbely2789 i cant believe they think hungarian food is bad, its one of the best cousines in central europe....croatia is not often shown in movies and series but the thought is always the same - we are all the same, we are "russians"
@@nikabuterin5831 I've literally never seen Croatia get any sort of representation. I'm half Croatian on my father's side but I hear a LOT about the kind of place it was and they sound like a very cheerful and hard-working people just from their stories. I've never been there personally (I WANT to, and would have if not for this damn Virus) but it sucks just how much Europeans of all kinds have gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to how we're portrayed, since we're seen as one entire entity by Americans.
russian here
it’s sad but true, the representation of eastern europeans in pop media just sucks ass
most of the time we’re portrayed as evil and/or stupid characters
or just really stereotypical, with soviet hats, tanks, vodka and stuff
oh and of course!
eastern european = russian, because other countries just don’t exist apparently
@@aussiepuppet5250 true, we mostly have real life problems like xenophobia, but those rare times we are on tv, its bad. One time, there was a charahcter from croatia who was a serial killer cause of ptsd from war
@@vergils_plastic_chair yeah, the potrayal of stupidity is damned....like...half of inventions are from easterm europeans. And also, they often see us as poor and dirty - like, western countries are one of reasons why we are poorer
Honestly I think they attacked the whole eastern Europe with their Petra scene. Yes, they chose Ukraine specifically to make fun of, but the point is they chose an eastern Europe country, because we all know how famous eastern Europe is and how it's portrayed in american culture. Ukrainian people are rightfully feeling attacked, but as an eastern european myself, I felt that it was an attack to all slavs and balkans. I really hope they face consequences for this.
Of course it was. I seriously doubt that creators have more than average knowledge about geography of Eastern Europe, and since they are from other continent, said knowledge is scarce. So probably they have no idea what's the difference between bulgarians, poles or ukrainians. And most of the audience have the similar knowledge.
As a balkan slav I completely agree
@@begemotowa yeah lmao i thought so too. They probably were like "okay guys we gotta find an eastern european country, any ideas?" and the first guy said Ukraine and they went along with that
@@begemotowa and then the video creator said that akschually Petra is a russian name and no one even flinched.
nah that's stretching, they were only attacking ukrainians imo
Your EIP video was your FIRST?!?!?! It was so well done I thought you were an established TH-camr. Awesome job and thanks for sharing your insight as a French person watching this stupid ass show.
8 million views on his first video...
Sylvie literally has the best fashion of all, there is no wrong outfit she wears, unlike all the others, she gives an outstanding performance and is literally amazing🤩
I want a spinoff called "Camille in Seville" where Camille ditches all of the shitty people in her life and finds happiness and succes in Spain while drinking sangria and taking flamenco lessons. I also find it astounding that there are still people like Darren Star who lives in such a bubble that any characer who is not a basic white American is exotizied and flanderized in ways that are supposed to be "funny" to an american audience. Like with the Shanghai Garden-girl in SATC, or the black chef whose brother Samantha dated in SATC, or Mirandas Ukranian housekeeper in SATC, or Mirandas Asian nanny in SATC
"Camille est partie de sa vie" lol
As a Spanish person, I support this
@@monitrix4943 haha yees!
Now that's a fanfic I'd read!
@@monitrix4943 me too 100%
Darren Star really said “okay so we can’t degrade the usual minorities, QUICK somebody come up with a new minority we can degrade RIGHT NOW so I don’t have to write a good show”
Man, it's almost like boomers live in their own bubble.
Tell me it's a show written by a man, without telling me it's a show written by a man
@@misssteak1290 That's a sexist statement. Being a man has nothing to do with being a xenophobe or racist or whatever; Darren Star is just a terrible person/writer who shouldn't have access to any word processor.
@@misssteak1290 what does that have to do with anything ? The new Charlie's Angels was written by a woman, Black widow was made by a woman...were they splendid pieces of art ? Damn you ppl r sexist..SO MANY strong female led films are made and written by men
@@shantanunish955 i haven't seen charlis angles but black widow was pretty good
This has been my comfort video to fall asleep to the last few days. Apparently there’s something about you ripping this show to shreds that works better than a lullaby.
I'm seething after watch after 3 seasons and this video helps me get over it.
Hahah tes vidéos sont toujours incroyablement quali, ça fait plaisir de découvrir une chaîne aussi chouette! Merci de prendre autant de temps pour nous proposer ce type de contenu :)
so uh, are we still sure that Riverdale isn't better than Emily in Paris? because i dont think Riverdale managed to piss off an entire country
Actually I think it’s closer to three: America, France, and the Ukraine.
@@leileyaravencroft my point exactly
I think we can safely say Riverdale isn't as bad as this. (At least I find Riverdale somewhat enjoyable, in a sort of absurdist arty way.)
Both sucks
Riverdale had (still has technically) the advantage of having more content to dislike, Emily was just a one and done crapfest season and could eventually fade into nothingness.
Then they made the second season. And now it wouldn’t surprise if they still tried for a third
Man, Lily Collins is one of the producers, she also makes the decisions around the show as well... Since she is not only an actress, it is completely reasonable to make her accountable as well. And even if she was only an actress, she should speak up about how the writers are trashing her character and creating scenes that associate her with blunt racism.
What kind of producer? That will gauge how much influence she actually has. Might just be an honorary title
Wow she sounds just as annoying as emily now
@@MillarVideoProductions IMDB lists her as a full Producer so apparently making some actual decisions. If it was just Executive Producer that's usually the honorary title one.
blunt racism? oh please, you people are just addicted to whining. You are all living in a reality show, where you think men will find you attractive if you rant about racism because that would mean you are smarter than women who know how not to eat cellulite and an extra bowl of carbohydrates. This show is actually Brilliant, even if in truth this is Woke. How can Woke be racist? Well, yeah, the real racist are those who cant stop talking about racism. People in some countries have never even seen white people and yet we have to hear about racism everyday in social media.
@@eduardochavacano i’m sorry wtf even is this comment
Thank you for making this video
Glad to know that you will be making another video on it cause it was renewed for season 3
I don't know who is Darren Star, so I looked him up and turns out he's behind the creation of Sex and the City........that explained EVERYTHING
Why isn't anyone talking about how Emily try's to go back to the unforgettable chef WHILE STILL HAVING A BOYFRIEND?? It's like they were trying to reverse any "character development" they made
As person who didn't have emotional availability or luck in love in the past, I thought it was so sweet Alfie was letting his feelings show and planning to continue dating her after moving back to London. It was easier to leave it like that but he chose not to. But of course, Emily had to follow her possy back to Gabriel. It's so clear she doesn't even love him but her coochie is the one that calls the shots 🙄
I'm confused didn't she break up with him?
The entire show makes no sense.
I feel like they're really sleeping on Camille. She's the only character that I fully like, and she has so much potential, yet they stick her in a love triangle with Emily and Gabriel. She really needs to see Gabriel for the cheating git he is, and focus on herself, and her own interests.
when I heard about her wanting to get revenge on Emily (which is valid, she lied) but it seemed to be revenge on her alone like, excuse me, it takes two people to have sex. Gabriel is as much at fault as Emily is.
I dunno if I missed something but at least from what people said, it was her getting back at just Emily.
The writers purposefully tried to make every other character more horrendous than Emily so she doesn't look so bad anymore. It was annoying as it was to blame it all on Emily and still regard Gabriel as the prize but that stupid highschool oath took it to the next level, especially when Camille proceeds to flirt with Gabriel in front of Emily on several occasions and by the end she's moved into his apartment NOT BECAUSE SHE WANTS HIM BUT BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO GET BACK ON EMILY. She went from a cool character to a Regina George rehash. Girls fighting over a guy who is not even worth it, how original, how feminist, how 2021 of them. Girl, you damn know very well that he'll be making out with Emily in no time behind your back, don't think you did something with this little scheme. He's playing you.
I wish she was never written as Gabriel's girlfriend and instead as an interesting character in her own lane with interesting story lines that don't involve Emily or Gabriel.
It really bothers me how much Gabriel was trying to be with Emily while telling Camille he was hurting. I had a moment of hope when she was telling him off during her art show but then she immediately got back with him. Camille had a lot of potential. XP
There was a scene where Mindy was performing but Camille couldn’t come because she was “working”. They just wanted to show tension between Gabriel and Alfie and expose their love triangle, clearly Camille’s character wasn’t needed in that scene. The writing is so lousy, I can’t
I love the fact you highlight a good song at the beginning of every episode. I also have been binging your videos they’re very well made
I completely agree with everything you said. Also going back to what you said in the first video about Sylvie being annoyed because she expected the boss who speaks French and is educated… and the boss arrived and it was absolutely horrendous. She didn’t speak French well at all and then disrespected the French constantly. They did not even do that right.
I also have to add that I really dislike what they did with the Alfie character. They added in a negative stereotypical British character to make her look better. They portray him as an ignorant, stubborn guy who refuses to adapt to change, calls everything a pub and acts “British”. I really hate how they decided to just throw in him and the Petra character as more negatively stereotypical characters to make Emily look better and that she’s “trying”.
As a Brit who has lived in three other countries besides the UK, it’s this type of attitude I really hate to see. I originally thought the premise was good, it might show accurately what a struggle it is to live abroad because of the language and cultural barriers and how you really have to learn about them and respect them to truly feel a part of the country but no, they just reduce every single character in the show down to a stereotype for comedy and to make the US way/ Emily better.
I’m sincerely hoping that season 3 will be okay… but at this point, I think it’s wrong to hope.
I'm sorry but Lilly Collins deserves some blame. She is a producer and the star of the show. But I guess it is easy to not care when people keep watching this stupid show and she keeps getting paid.
💯
Agree. + she was already rich, she doesn't even need the money. If she'd refused to act in it, they'd probably have stopped the series.
People born rich often produce garbage.
Damn, that Ukrainian backlash aged like wine
American media: Ukrainian women are illegals and shoplifters. Also American media: Let's start World War III for Ukraine.
Umm yeah…
Wish Emily is in Paris was the biggest problem for us to care about rn...
I'm rewatching this video after a few months and boy it sure did.
@@MrMich1lol True, but that Ukrainian insult doesn't help.
I audibly gasped when the third character trait for Petra popped up omg????
Russians:
- Thick accent
- Named Pyotr, Viktor or Petra
- Criminal
i haven't seen emily in paris at all, ijust watch your videos and your content is so great and much better and efficient than watching the series in itself, thank you so much for your content
The fact that in American media the Eastern Europian women are portrayed as either a criminal or a sx worker just makes me so dissapointed
@@KahruSuomiPerkele Sadly, that's true also for German media.
@@KahruSuomiPerkele the stereotype came from western europe, not america so its not surprising. We get that stereotype even in south europe(not as much but still)
At least they’re there. I don’t see any people from Uruguay or El Salvador being represented
@@charichar1327 Not really mostly the biggest ones that general American knows. I am from Czech Republic it is never in media but we are mostly treated on same stereotypes as other Slavs. Plus I would rather not be represented then be seen as a convenient sex slave and unintelligent trophy wife.
This is why we are constantly calling for diversity behind the camera. Look at the way they half assed their way through the critiques of season 1.
So you think that would make a proper difference nope is the whole culture which unfortunately will not. Putting some color won’t change shit look when Obama was in office I remember it was a big thing in 2008 hope to change stuff make stuff better for black people ahhh PSYCH he continue bush warring effort double down on it lots of blacks died from heavy mass shootings he didn’t do much for that cause why the machine behind him. It’s some for the other institutions to painting over a dirty wall is still a dirty wall which will show it’s flaws
@@richboy12ify I'm talking about film and television so you can chill. I don't think I need to argue that people of color are better at telling their stories then white people. It's just a fact.
@@richboy12ify this is an amazing comment because you come to the correct conclusion: systemic change is needed (as the orginal comment suggested).
But the way you got there is like the ramblings of a racist drunk uncle at thanksgiving.
@@rachellecham why don’t people of color make their own shows and stop expecting white people to cater to them on everything. Y’all want to be included in anything whites make, but where are the whites in Asian shows? Etc..
@@kiddarts8812 Are you kidding me? Just try to watch "Meteor garden" on Netflix, there are white students in the university, there is a white band in one of the episodes, there is a white important person (a teacher maybe, I don't remember) in the very beginning of the show, etc... And this is just an example. It's almost 2022, you can be more open towards other people. Black people are starting to be represented more just now, before they were represented just in a negative way (like criminals or always as slaves that needed to be freed by someone white). They practically didn't have a personality, they rarely were protagonists in a show or in a movie, and so on. Is it such a big problem to include some diversity? Does it change your life in some way? Are you gonna be homeless and without food just because a black person, or any other ethnic group, is included more? If the answer is no than just stop with this racist bs
So cool that your first EiP video was also your first TH-cam video ever! I didnt even realize that at the time because it was so good and professional. Which is really motivating for smol youtubers in their baby shoes 😊
We should all ask for a Season 3. By the time the show finishes making an enemy out of humanity, maybe we can all unite against our common enemy and achieve world peace.
The power this man possesses to single-handedly cancel the Golden Globes. True king shit right there.
Who
I'm telling you! On his first TH-cam video. Boss shit
He’s an icon, he’s a legend, and he’s THE MOMENT. Boss moves only
Why, instead of hating on Ukrainian women, they didn’t just make a carbon copy of Emily? She could be played by the same chick. But she could be even worse than Emily. Go hard on the stupid American stereotypes and let Emily SEE how she treats everyone and makes them feel? Which would give her the ability to be a better person. Plus it adds the joke of everyone thinking Emily was the one who did something stupid.
That character would have been a great foil to give Emily some character development
WONDERFUL IDEA!
Ngl having an evil version of Emily played by Lily Collins in a wig is a very funny concept and I wish they did it
@@queenoffabulous2156 LMAO, like Vanessa Hudgens in the princess switch movies?
GENIUS
Pissing off entire governments seems to be a new hobby of Netflix. 😂
Damn, these videos are making my day ! It's a pleasure listening to you rip that show into pieces XD !!
T'es un grand, Bro !
When people enable/write-off women predators who prey on young boys, it doesn't only downplay and inevitably damage the perspective of female predatory actions, it ultimately harms all anti-predatory efforts. Creating such a double standard with no justifications can only lead some to justify other forms of pedophilia and sexual assault. In reality, it should all be damned and taboo'd, not just male on female pedophilia, but female on male pedophilia as well. And idk, I feel like this should be common sense......
Hollywood is full of pdhls
Your favorite actors, directors are high likely one. Men and Women but they hide it with their money.
And they make jokes about it.
Watch any movie, serie from Hollyweird.
Any. And there is always a joke, or something indicates to this.
People need to wake up and see Hollywood at what it truly is.
H.E.L.L.
@@wd4440 I don't have a favorite actor or w.e. lol but yeah
when I saw the scene in S1 that implied emily got intimate with a minor and the way they tried to play it off as a joke for shock value, i knew immediately that the writers and producers were not only incompetent, but also trashy. i know the legal age in europe is lower in some parts but there are better ways of showing that than accidental pedophilia??
@@abcdefgh-fb5nyYeah it's 15 in France but still considering we find out emily is 29 that is very dodgy like just no
Thank you!!!
I think the writers didn't understand what made Emily such a horrible character. It seems they think that the problem wasn't Emily, but how nice Camille was... So they're strategy was to transform Camille into an evil character and people would immediatly love Emily
Which is both lazy and damb...
Instead of Evil I'll say Racist. Though is nicer later.
True, they just introduced characters worst than her to make her look better.
Right? When watching the serie I was just thinking all the time: “Camille is sonsa” witch in portuguese means “to play dumb” or being cynical in a certain way! Emilly was the one messing up all the time and Gabriel was just playing the toxic / narcissistic “no attitude” game so both ladies would have to compete for him 🙄.
The show was produced by Darren Star - remember Carrie Bradshaw from Sex and the City? Same trope. People ought to manage their expectations.
cant wait to see your point of view on the 3rd season
That the Emily in Paris video was your first video blows my mind rn
I'm so glad that you covered the problem of demonstrating Ukrainian women in the show. As a young Ukrainian woman, I am used to being seen like this and people do not think that this is a problem.People are interested in watching content in English and netflix is a global platform, so for us it becomes a problem that the only representation about Ukrainian women in the media is only negative.
Demonstration of a Ukrainian woman in the series offended and rooted a lot of people in my country. It was soy sed for me, because l true to learn four languages and it scares me, can people outside my country see me like that? National stereotypes are bad, they scare, because no matter how hard you try, you are still seen as a typical Petra or a trophy wife. I am scared because I am preparing to receive an education in a foreign country. I am afraid that I will be seen only as a national stereotype.
I understand that no one represents you better than you yourself, and therefore I draw comics with Ukrainian characters, and try to write good stories, in the hope that people will be able to see not only national stereotypes.I worked on my comic for a long time and on the fact that people outside my camp could read it, so if you want to see a story from a Ukrainian from a Ukrainian, check out my comic @elaisamisstry
Their portrayal of Ukrainian women is so offensive but its also the fact that it was completely unnecessary to the plot of the show, some ignorant writer who definitely doesn't actually know any Ukrainians probably thought they were hilarious and didn't think about the how a reductive stereotype actually hurts real people. Any corrections made in season 2 were clearly about getting people to shut up rather than doing the work to become less ignorant. Good luck studying in a foreign country, I myself am an immigrant and know about being subjected to rude assumptions and mistreatment by ignorant people because of having a different background so I hope you can have a positive experience in another country. I'll also definitely check out your comic because I love webtoons.
I can’t speak for anyone else but I have never heard these Ukranian woman stereotypes in my entire life. So I don’t think that you will have a huge problem when studying abroad.
Also even if this stereotype is more common than I know. You shouldn’t be afraid of going to other countries in fear of how you will be treated because of stereotypes. The people that actually matter won’t treat you differently because of stuff like that.
As a young Ukrainian woman myself, i understand you completely. Навіть навчаючись в сусідній Польщі можна зустрітись з дурними стереотипами про нас (і не тільки про нас), далеко їхати не треба. Але бажаю успіху і з навчанням, і з коміксами, сподіваюсь, що у тебе все складеться добре!!!
@@Liana-qi4eg Спасибі це дуже мило з вашого боку, мені було дуже приємно читати ваш комінтар не думала що буду переписуватись рідною мовою в коментарях Ninja
З наступаючим Новим роком вас.
@@Sergio-wc1wn Thank you, you are very kind, studying in another country is a very nervous process and I really hope that at least stereotypes will not affect it.
Can’t wait for an Scandinavian character that is tall, blonde and only drinks coffee for season three!!
Italy here, this is our year, we had our iconic cringy-bad-Italian-speake- ice cream seller 👍❤️Geeeelatoooo
And her father is a Viking.
Remember the "Swedish" characters in Brooklyn 99? I cringed so hard watching that episode, and I'm not even Scandinavian
I was today years old when I learned my ex was a walking stereotype 😂
@Snutih And drives a SAAB
I know you're french too, but your accent is so great compared that I tend to forget while watching and it always makes me laugh to hear the french names with the correct pronunciation. Like, it's so weird to hear a french word correctly said during an english video, it's funny
In the midst of the suffering, can we just have a moment of appreciation for how hard the Ninja rocks those sunglasses?
I think Lilly should be held accountable.
She was bragging about how she WAS Emily and how she had a big part in the show, then was shocked at the backlash (like the rest of the cast probably wasn't shocked but took the roles for a paycheck, Lilly implies that she has no critical thinking and can't understand why stereotypes aren't funny). She only claimed to not be responsible once the backlash hit, then all of a sudden she has no part in the show at all.
Also, it really bothers me that people keep saying that but is she really a good actress? She was good in To The Bones (IMO it was a great script and I can't imagine how someone could mess up that character) but that's absolutely it. I've seen 90% of her movies and she seems very much to be a mediocre actress who only gets roles due to nepotism and good looks.
Be held accountable for what? Playing a shitty character? She's an actress playing a character.
@@belladonna5904 Literally said it in my comment, if you're too lazy to read that's your problem I'm not repeating myself
@@belladonna5904 SHE IS A WRITER AND PRODUCER ON THE SHOW. SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING that the goes on behind the scenes. And she has zero empathy for the people she offends. She has no awareness of how harmful Emily in Paris is. Women already don't get held accountable for shit, Lilly Collins doesn't deserve to be excluded from her share of the backlash. She played with fire now watch her get burned.
@Highest In the Room I think Ninja is bias on Lilly Collins, yes. I'm not going to trash him for that. I have celebrities I admire too, but now after that Oscars debacle the elites look more fucked up now.
@@abilea4081 Not my fault if you're too lazy to understand what I'm implying.
Emily’s outfits were somehow worse this season. I didn’t even think that was possible
Now that's just wrong
I still can’t forget that hideous huge bow on her birthday dress 🙃🙃
Camille on the other hand had a really cool style
@@13janvi or the red dress wtf🤮
@@13janvi it was so pretty my favorite
Petra is actually greek in origin meaning rock. It is not a Russian name as you said. The name Petra is popular in other countries, including but not limited to, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Croatia, and it’s the name of an ancient city in Jordan.
for that to be your first video is amazing the quality was so impressive
There is this anti-slavic sentiment that is really not talked about but especially slavic people can confirm that there is this negative attitude towards us, even tho it's not as obvious as other issues in this world, we can see it. The stereotypes and prejustices towards us are harmful and shouldn't be portrayed in shows like these just for some cheap jokes.
It's fetishization that is just never spoken about, because it's supposedly "empowering", like all those Russian spies in Bond movies and all that crap. But what's empowering about people automatically assuming you're a sex worker because you choose to dress a certain way? Or assume that you're a thief? Or an alcoholic (cause if you're Eastern-European, you must have had vodka from childhood)? These stereotypes are disgusting and I thought we had outlived them.
To be fair, Slavic people hate each other's guts as well. I am from a Slav country myself and the stereotype of Ukrainian/Russian women being cheap and tasteless lives here too and I agree that stereotype is ultimately harmful and we should get rid of it.
On the other hand, a lot of women from my country got famous for being porn actresses and we also consume the most beer per capita in the world and I absolutely do not mind if somebody makes a joke about that, even as a woman.
@@AngryTapeworm I see your point, but there is a world of difference between slavic people from different nations calling each other stuff, and a complete outsider doing the same. Slavic countries historically had wars, fluid borders, a bunch were in the USSR. They have enough common history to get to do that, if you take my meaning. But an American TV show disrespectfully trying to ride on this stuff is just appropriation, sorry.
Slavs are such an easy target in western media! We are white so it's not racist if we're constantly depicted as bad guys
@@AngryTapeworm that is true, for example my country really hates Belarus (and Russia) ;-;
Honestly, I don't think Americans have any notion of the type of discrimination Eastern Europeans face in Western European countries in particular, so thank you for having a whole segment on that. This show feels like it's 10-20 years behind on the times, I have no idea who's even watching it.
A temp doctor I teched for the holidays at the optometrist office I work at would watch Emily in Paris in between patients instead of reviewing charts while everyone else was running around scrambling to get patients situated. I asked her if she liked the show since I’ve been a huge fan of Friendly Space Ninja since his first Emily in Paris video, and she said it was fantastic. I don’t know if this is indicative of any wider trend, but she was a rude white fifty year old Karen 🥰
They should, because Eastern Europeans faced the same kind of discrimination in the US during the entire 20th century
@@Krobluv1172 ‘deeply disappointing’ ok people are allowed to watch it and enjoy it even if it’s trash
well we domt we just have racism :/
@@DidaxS A lot of Americans even forget the plight of Irish immigrants, too. Americans are hyper-focused on skin-based racism and completely ignore the xenophobia and predujice within Europe's various religions and ethnic groups that carried over during colonization. A lot of Americans fetishize Western Europe as a whole as a beacon of peace and tolerance and don't know or don't care about the raging racism that still exists there as well as antisemitism and discrimination. Thanks to America having the entire world's spotlight, it's a lot easier for European countries to sweep their own issues under the rug or, at the very least, keep Americans uninformed. I was very glad to see discussions of police reform happen in Europe as a result of American police brutality, but the fact that it had to happen in America first to put pressure on other countries is telling.
Can't wait for your season 3 breakdown !!! xD wether they improve or not
I didn't know about the Ukrainian women stereotype, but after I looked into it and reflected I could think of a few examples i've seen. Thank you so much for bringing it to my attention.
Am I going to watch this season? No. Am I going to watch 47 minute long video analysis about the show? hell yes 💅
Same here😊
100% me. I've never watched this show, PLL, Teen Wolf, or Riverdale but have watched every video FSN has done about them. 🤣
Diito
Bro, I just discovered your channel and have been binge watching your videos and you have STYLE 👍🏻
Keep on keeping on King
rcently started your videos and im super into them!!! you're making grade A content huge fan already!!
I'm not even Ukrainian but as a Slavic woman, I feel offended, I can't even imagine how the Ukrainian women must have felt watching Petra being the "representation of them"
Same. I do not know what Slavs did to Hollywood but we seem to always be either done dirty or not done at all.
Why have a Slavic character if you can make them a "hilarious" harmful stereotype, am I right?
@@ZundelArt exactly, I can’t think of any positively portrayed Slavic character in Hollywood media and it’s fucking sad
That and the fact this scene is totally uncalled for. Slavic people are always some sort of villains in Hollywood. Now this is shitty but at least they are antagonists. Here they could have imagined any other way for Emily to end up doing exercise with Alfie. Anything. And they instead created that Petra storyline because…why?!?!?
I think about all my dear Slavic friends, kind, smart, sophisticated , ambitious, hard working women and my blood is boiling. The disrespect 😡
Same
Petra is not only Ukrainian "stereotype". It's portrayal of all Eastern European women. Americans/Western Europeans don't really care for eastern europe, they got used to this offensive jokes about us and are sure we are all like this. I can't name one good portrayal of slavic/e.e. character in western media. I can spend an hour listing all of the stereotypical roles- gangster, prostitute, abuser, alcoholic, gold digger. It's very sad and scary for me. I don't want my people to be seen as jokes and not "equal" to western people.
Also the problem is, people know that the jokes about the French in season 1 were based on false stereotypes. People didn't really believe it, they called out this immediately. In the case of Petra- a lot of Western Europeans and Americans don't question it. It's true to them. We're thieves. We're stupid. We're less than them. They can get away with this, beacause it's not seen as race issue.
Because how they treat people of colour and immigrants in America it shouldn't be surprising how they treat the rest of the world. I will never forget that they choose angry orange who said 'we will build a wall' and many, many, many more disgousting and vile things as their president.
literally same with Mindy and any POC representation. They're token characters, its for DiVeRsItY pOiNtS.
I perfectly understand you. I come from a non-Slavic eastern European country but the depiction is the same: either we are prostitutes or gangsters, and being raised in western Europe I had to face A LOT of discrimination while growing up. It just destroys your life.
Oh damn and you seem like a good hearted person to me.
to be fair to my country--the USA--i don't think we really think too much about eastern europeans at all unless it's fighting with russia. that's about as far as our engagement goes with that part of the world. otherwise no one would really give a shit that you're eastern european, you'd be treated better than the rest of us just cuz you're white/white passing lol. pretty much all of our russian stereotypes though are either hold overs from the cold war or russian mob stuff tho, that much is true.
Dear Friendly Space Ninja,
thank you for your Emily in Paris videos!
Even though I consider myself a critical viewer of shows and movies (as I am a writer myself), I really had a different angle of understanding this show, so I am very glad that you opened my eyes to the truth.
I actually thought that this show was SUPPOSED to be dumb and that Emily was SUPPOSED to be an awful, ignorant and obnoxious American coming to Europe. I actually think that Emily is the perfect American stereotype, a loud, shallow, ignorant person who feels entitled to everything for no reason.
Mabye I am too optimistic, but I really did think that this was Hollywood's/Netflix's way of being progressive and trying to depict Americans in a bad light to circumvent the over glorification of so many Hollywood productions that basically are American propaganda projects where Europeans are depicted badly.
So, what I am trying to say is that I actually thought this was supposed to be a parody of American views towards Europe, but after watching your videos, I realise that I was VERY wrong!
So, thanks a lot.
Also, I don't use social media at all, therefore did not know about the massive backlash the show had gotten. Thank you for making me aware!
This is social media
To be honest I don't think your critique is wrong. I genuinely do think people take this show way too seriously. If you've ever watched anything else by Darren Star (like sex and the city) you would realize his shows generally are hilariously exaggerated and also filled with stereotypes.
this video was absolutely delightful
As a Ukrainian woman, I felt just terrible and disgusted watching Petra (you’re right, it’s also not a Ukrainian name) so thank you for saying how wrong on many levels it is
His claim that Petra is a Russian name made mee laugh so hard though
@@user-hx9xi1sj2r they didn't even care to find any real Ukrainian name, so they just closed eyes and type any random letters))
same omg
@@larp1075 right like google is right there...u could have just picked the first thing that comes up
@@larp1075 Not random letters - it's a common Czech name (originally comes from Greece tho). Just confirms another stereotype - it's all just former communist block countries for them...
My solution to the shoplifting girl storyline: Make her American as well. Make her and Emily bond over being from the USA but decide to speak to each other in French in order to practice. Eventually have the whole shoplifting deal and have Emily call her out, to which the other girl would be like "Come on, it's not a big deal" in English. Emily then snaps to her in French before returning the clothes. After all the character was there just to contrast with Emily and make the audience think "Oh Emily isn't so bad", might as well have gone the full way and made her a real "nega-Emily"
The writers need to hire you.
THAT WOULD’VE BEEN SOOOO GOOD!
You coming out here with such controversial ideas. This goes totally against the whole idea of american=superior
Why would you call Emily the n word 🥶
@@Pablitopewpew i hope you're joking xdd
You are so gorgeous! Love your entire vibe 😌
Great video dude. Also love the Matt Murdoch style shades.
I love the Gabriel slander, I seriously do not even understand the appeal. He’s a douchebag with no personality who flip flops between 2 women and has no problem cheating. Throw the whole man away 🤦🏻♀️
He reminded me of Hakeem Lyon from Empire. Hakeem is spoiled, conceited piece of shit who has his head up his ass. It still bothers me how Tiana and Laura wasted their time fighting over a man who cheated on them both with the same woman, Camilla, who super toxic and highly manipulative. I hated it when she called them "Antony and Cleopatra", no they're the gender reverse of R. Kelly and Aaliyah(And even though Hakeem is 18 it's still gross especially when Hakeem did his version of Age Ain't Nothing But A Number🤢🤮). I'm still pissed at Lee Daniels for writing that sick shit in the show.
Throw the whole show away
THANK YOUUU!!! I said the same thing
@@lizxu322 amen
Ikr 🤦
I cannot believe that first video was your first video *ever*, thats awesome dude
GODDAMN your voice is so good and enjoyable to listen?!??!? dont stop making video about, like, anything
As a ukranian woman, thank you for calling this bullshit out. This is so crappy, and the last thing we need right now for our image
Mail in brides are mad lmaooo
@@yomama12546 username checks out 💩
I forgot ukraine was even a place most americans dont care about ukraine because alot of us can barely tell where anything is on a map
@@mottolikedemchunky2188 that's not something to be proud of, you know
Why are people so offended?
It's Hollywood.🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Of course they are going to be r.a.c.i.s.t.
Everybody acts shocked, is offended but that's literally how Hollywood work, has always worked and will always work like.
Don't expect anything from them.
They will never change.
What beginned and grow up as fake will stay fake, FOREVER.