That's why most of the actors on the show are still relevant today. Because they are geniunely charismatic and talented. GG would be nothing without the cast.
Gossip Girl is a case study on how brilliant costume and set designers and extremely charismatic actors can carry an entire television show to immense success even if the writers room is just inventing new boyfriends for Serena every 3 weeks and calling it a plot lmao.
I actually dont think Dan and Blair were thrown together for shock value at all. Upon rewatching, I realized they had one of the more refreshing and fleshed out relationships in the show. They built a friendship in season 4 and 5 and didn't get together til the end of season 5, which is more development than 90% of the relationships on the show.
The Gossip Girl reveal should have always been Kristen Bell sending a text, breaking the fourth wall by winking at the audience, and then walking away down a busy NY street, because she really is nobody and everybody
I’m so glad in the new reboot that they take away the mystery of who Gossip Girl is upfront in the first few minutes of the first episode. It prevents them from making the same type of plot mistake as the original and it honestly doesn’t really matter who GG is... that’s not the point of the show lol. Even if she’s executed by a single individual she’s really everybody.
To this day I believe that Serena’s father was the worst plot line. HE FAKED HER MOTHER’S CANCER TO KEEP HER DEPENDENT ON HIM. NATE WAS THE ONLY RATIONAL PERSON BY CALLING THE POLICE. AND SERENA JUST LETS HIM GO??? AND THEN LILLY ENDS UP WITH HIM? WTF??? I have never been able to watch past it.
Serena was so desperate to have a fatherly figure that shed literally let that issue slide under the rug and let him go when in reality he didnt even care about his kids, he cared more about his own social standing in his own world, had serena not made such an effort to get in contact with him, it wouldntve happened, he wouldntve seen her. Then throw his own actions with having lily have fake cancer and JENNY being the one to notice something and everyone shut jenny out because of her own actions, jenny was young and impressionable, much like anyone at her age would be realistically.
Lily is so afraid of loneliness, and Bart is dead, Rufus... sort of dead too (he f****** sleep with Ivy Dickens wtf). So actually she NEEDS William and she don't care of who he is cause the important fact is : he is right there. But she should have ended up with Humphrey sure.
Blair surprisingly has the best family life out of all the main characters lol. She has a loving, caring and strong mother who is willing to reprimand her and correct her when she’s wrong, she has Dorota as an emotional support and Cyrus is a really good father figure in her life as well (plus her real dad and his partner are nice and loving too)
her mother encouraged her eating disorder and told her, in front of Serena, to have a low-fat yogurt instead of eating a croissant in a very pointed way. poor girl couldn't even have a croissant for breakfast with a friend without her mom saying something and embarrassing her, not to mention normalizing focusing on what she eats when as someone who's gone through recent bulimia treatment she should *not* be encouraged to do that
@@gothboithickexactly! Literally Blair said she wrote the book on distracted self-centred mothers as her mother often forgets her birthday and always comments on her appearance if it’s to criticise.
I agree. Blair got to have a better understanding with her mother throughout the seasons. Serena had her brother. He was so kind and did right by her in the beginning.
My thoughts exactly 😂 lol and I would have much more questions for writers if I had a chance to speak with them, they really done some weird(unexplainable) stuff
Did any of them graduate? It seems especially weird that they didn't show Dan or Blair still doing their classes because they were most academically driven out of all of them
this almost ALWAYS HAPPENS when they don't know what to do with the characters of a show once they graduate the high school that putted them together in the first place. It's insane, but literally happens in most shows if you look closely lol
I think Dan being GG is a great twist if they planned it out from the beginning. Also, something that bothered me about the show: did they all just stop going to college? It's just never mentioned.
The college aspect has always bothered me too!! They never mention anything about it after their second year and suddenly they all have jobs. Did they just all decide to drop out of school?
It was Dan from the pilot, they actually changed the pilot to make it less obvious after test audiences guessed it. I think they must have changed their minds at one point, and then changed it back, because there are so many things that don't line up about it
@@mk-yt8og I think most shows get bored with the school aspect of things. They did the same with Dawson’s Creek, Buffy (like one season of college), Felicity (supposed to be set in school, but she never goes to class), Charmed (Phoebe goes to school to get her degree, but they never show her doing the work anymore), Alias (the main character is undercover as a college student but they never show her in class). Every show I’ve seen set in school, eventually barely shows them in school anymore. Even Teen Wolf.
Don't forget all the plot about getting in an ivy league university to finally being accepted and then suddenly all characters never atended again (?) like what 😂
that annoyed me so much!! they didn't even bother explaining it or even making them mention it every once in a while like nope nothing what university??
True but tons of rich people barely spend time in University. My cousin goes to Columbia and tons of the rich trust fund kids are always on some kind of vacation and barely show up to class. They pay their classmates to help them out.
The show did Nate dirty. His character had so much potential and the writers just kinda dropped him... Although he probably holds the record for Least Morally Corrupted Character in GG 😂
I really would have loved it if Nate was actually Gossip Girl!! Because the show depicted Nate as kind of a air head who sleeps with everyone in sight. It would’ve been great to see that he was actually smarter than everyone imagined. It would even explain why his character was suddenly interested in journalism or how Nate never sent in a tip to Gossip girl.
@@Ji-zt7ny the only way it would’ve made sense for him to be GG , if Dan and Jenny were both Gossip Girl. The episode should’ve been a lot longer to explain how they both made the website and how they were able to send GG posts at certain times throughout the series. I still think it would’ve been amazing if Nate was Gossip girl .
Same! And if the person that says it didn’t watch gossip girl I feel betrayed and like...who even are they?! Now I’m a weirdo for referencing a show they didn’t watch but deep down I think they’re the weird one. 😂
I said that iconic line when someone was finishing their letter-like dialogue in another TV show (their high-pitched voice made it more funny). I don't remember the show. 🤣
As far as I’m concerned the pilot episode isn’t cannon. It occurs in an alternate universe. You cannot tell me Chuck and Nate rode a public bus to school.
the most unrealistic thing about gossip girl is blair’s s. 5 wedding look. you can’t convince me that with her fashion sense, her mom being a big designer and her money she ended up looking like that on her wedding to a literal prince
whoever was the casting director for this show really had an eye for talent because the over-the-topness really was balanced by the mundane and pathetically sad scenes performed by the cast. genuinely, every plot was ridiculous but the deliveries, the set design, costumes, and overall character looks were addicting to watch. im surprised they got a reboot knowing 99% of the original cast do not speak fondly about their experience (because I remember it got to the point where they were trying to sell these actresses/actors AS their characters), but nonsense and all, it’s still fun to revisit over a decade later
@@itsmartafilipa ya, I think it’s based on a book, from a women who was rich and the book talks about her adventures with her friends, obviously the show has more drama
There’s a point somewhere midway through season 3 where i realize that there’s no longer anything good to look forward to (only monaco, ivy, juliet, ben...) ✨ and yet...i always do. Toxic, honestly.
@@yukijames1321 SUCH a brat! I really could not form an attachment to her character, I don’t understand the whole girl boss energy. She wasn’t practicing good business, she was never going to be successful doing things the way she was.
The whole reason I hate Jenny is because of how she treated her dad. She was the worst. He really needed to snap her wannabe ass back to reality and send her to a public school, or to an impoverished area so she could grow up
I mean it was though. Only I never felt the actors were that talented? It helped that the casting was on point, all it takes is one interview to see that Blake Lively IS Serena van der Woodsen. EDIT: okay Leighton is a queen and has been criminally underrated since GG.
The takeaway is that CW can make good shows but never have any idea where to go after the first season ends and they've already wrapped up the compelling character arcs
The CW should switch to HBO-like mini-series broadcast network. All their shows is good up to like 3-4 seasons. I've read Supernatural was originally slated to end after 5 seasons. it ended at 15. If they switched to 8-10-episode 1-4 season run on all their shows, they might even get nominated for awards. Arrow, The 100, Flash season 1 and 2 were so good. Unfortunately CW shows gets stretched so there's so many fillers scenes per episode or filler episode altogether.
This! Honestly. I have lost count of the amount of CW shows that start off good and get ruined post-season one (maybe even two), The writers room get laaaaaazy
see this is why western television should switch to the kdrama or mini series format. one good season with 16-24 compelling episodes and just end it there. short but very sweet. and if there's follow up seasons its usually well done, i don't think ive seen most kdramas go over 2 or 3 seasons from what ive watched so far. when a story is finished, it's finished. i just don't see the point of dragging it out to frickin 13 seasons or whatever number of seasons supernatural has. so ridiculous. there's absolutely no reason that show should've gone beyond its 5th season 😓
can we pls talk about the way that dan and serena have a whole plot line about finding out they have a half sibling and are worried about their relationship, then they don’t, then they do and they break up, then the half sibling leaves town never to be seen again, and then the show completely forgets about him and go back to shipping dan and serena. what the fawk 🤩
That’s the difference between Blair and Serena, I feel like Serena always tried hard to cover her bad girl side and would never take responsibilitywhen Blair was just smart about it
I'll never forget that moment in season 1 where Serena says "I killed someone" and the music just flips. The way they handled the build up and that moment was incredible. My stomach DROPPED. Very hard for a TV series to affect you like that anymore.
I thought, Leighton is so charismatic that she would've become very famous actress after GG, but it never happened. Also, I thought the same for Nina Dobrev would become so so insanely famous because I found her range of acting in The Vampire Diaries great. But Nina too never became much famous.
There’s a difference… I loved the Leighton’s character on GG… but the Nina’s character was honestly the worst of TVD… extremely annoying (of course I’m talking about Elena, Katherine is amazing)
@@alejosantacruz7 That indeed is true, Elena was boring. I found Nina's acting skill and diversity interesting because she had to do Katherine, Amara (and another old character I forgot the name) and each character seemed different from each other.
That phenomenon you talk about where a character becomes the one or two personality traits that were interesting is called Flanderization. A character becomes a caricature of themselves. Example: Blair becoming flat and evil rather than it being a coping mechanism, Spongebob becoming ultra stupid and obnoxious, most characters on The Office, etc.
OMG YES! I always tell people that Blair basically became a caricature of herself after the first season but I never knew there was a phenomenon surrounding characters becoming flat archetypes
Just thinking about the amount of times I unironically said "like what, we're on Gossip Girl now?" when there was drama in the friend group makes me simultaneously cringe and admire the power this show held.
@@skye3088 it is, and I read the books too, but Blake Lively was coming off Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants when Gossip Girl came out so she was the focus of the marketing for a long while. If you take a look at photoshoots, marketing materials for the show, she's placed as the focal point.
@@hollywooddarling I remember that. I was in school, saw free Gossip Girl posters near the newspaper stand, grabbed one and have no idea what happened to it now but the reason I even checked it out was bc I recognized Blake Lively from Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. I wasn't sure at first but when I was I set a reminder on my TV to check out the show. Idk if I'd have watched the show had that not happened so good on marketing 😅
The books have Blair as the main character because Serena was kind of awful, in the show they tried making Serena the protagonist and having Blake carry the whole thing.. but no character evolution and awful writing still made Blair the most interesting character.
The writers definitely made it Dan for the shock factor and because they had no idea who it should be. In the first few seasons, it was intended to be Eric. The New York Post theorized that it was Eric, so they shifted it to Nate. That also got leaked, so they dropped the idea of Gossip Girl being a specific character until season 6. If you’re watching it retroactively, knowing this information, you can absolutely tell that it was Eric. They placed hints throughout the show, like Eric mysteriously knowing private information about Lord Beaton, and being vague when asked how he discovered it. Another was Jonathan having Gossip Girl’s password at graduation, because he “hacked into it.” I theorize that the writers thought that they could get away with making it Dan because narratively, it made sense, even though it was a mess plot wise. It was before the era of streaming services, so people had been watching it once a week for 5 years. You’re bound to forget a lot of information over that period of time, so I’m assuming that they thought that viewers would’ve just forgotten the minor details which make it impossible. The reason we’re catching all of these details is because we binge it. We finish it within a relatively short period of time, and all of the details are still fresh in our minds.
can we talk about how there was sooo much excitement and build up to Lily and Rufus' son only for him to never be mentioned again? one of the most anticlimactic storylines in the show (in my opinion).
Yeeeeeees so true. AND, it's really hurt me, NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE "trivial" FACT THAT LILY AND RUFUS JUST LOST A CHILD. Dan is like "Haha this is great we can be together", he even said "What a story ! "You have a brother!" "Actually no" ! But all's well that ends well" or something like that. Thanks god Lily and Rufus came back together because otherwise I don't know how they would have survived this drama (especially that... nobody cares). This is so sad.
People were so hard on both Jenny and Taylor Momsen. The media, viewers, and at times the writers couldn't see Taylor was NOT Jenny. It was a major contributor to why she's so hated, she was only like 15 irl yall.
I think a lot of people were against her also because as she got older she felt she was kind of done with the show, which is fine. She wanted to do music instead but probably wasn't totally her choice to stay or not, she probably had agents telling her to continue riding the wave. We've all been there where we're at a job we don't really like and it shows, we don't exactly give it our all. I think she was just kind of stuck on it.
And that's the biggest issue with Dan as Gossip Girl- they wanted to do it, but also not. They made him Gossip Girl but they weren't willing to let him really be Gossip Girl, to transform his character into the kind of person that was so devoted to his life of lies, so psychopathic that he would ruin his own relationships and life just to keep up the ruse. They still wanted him to be the good guy and have the happy ending, but also the villain of the entire show.
every single actor/actress in gossip girl gave this story life. PERIOD. blake lively, leighton meester, michelle trachtenberg, ed westwick, sebastian stan, ETC..this show would not have been nearly as successful without each and every actor they hired.
@@yatarookayama8329 the ending of the OG literally set up a sequel, you can have the cast appear in future episodes but there are other kids who GG could focus on or spread rumors, the OG squad are rich ass adults now, let them live their lives
I think there's one huge problem that should be mentioned. Creators don't know how to show adult characters and adult world itself. Like it's pretty good with adults at the first season. But when the main characters grow from teenagers to adults creators simply don't know how to changes their personalities. And it feels like most of them literally stuck in the high school being not even a personalities anymore like it was at first season but a bunch of caricature high school tropes. In adult world. Isn't it an absurd?
The thing about Dan and Blair is that the storyline of them was supposed to be initialized in season 1 but the writer’s strike at the time puts the production in a halt and they basically revamp the series focusing on what makes audience hook and that is surprisingly Chuck and Blair. Serena’s dynamic with Dan was supposed to be stirred a bit by how Dan doesn’t trust her enough but somehow opens up to Blair easilly abour his own family (s1ep4). Which would also stirred up her friendship with Blair, where the tables turned. Plus if we look closely the writers have set up Dan and Blair to always have similar interests (cabbage patch kid was supposed to be a start) and the fact that they both are the academician of the bunch. Those were hints of Dan and Blair but it was changed and revised after the writer’s strike.
@@M_k-zi3tn it’s very unpopular opinion but Dan and Blair were literally the best couple on the show for the little time they had it was perfect until they ruined it and it went all downhill from there!
Honestly, the reason main why GG was so well loved was because the cast was AMAZING. Plot, writing, character, not super mind blowing. But the cast carried it soooo well, the cringed lines, the over-sexualised scenes, the dramatic blackmails, it all works because the cast MAKES it work
1) i think people hated jenny bc they loved blair so much and she was her "enemy" 2) i'm pretty sure chuck was only meant to be a small character, they didn't write ep1 chuck with the idea that would end up being such a big part of the show 3) they 100% should've kept eric as gossip girl, idk why writers hate it so much when people guess their own clues lmao
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME ON JENNY. I never really disliked Jenny, I think she was just a misguided girl trying to get in. She did bad stuff but she always had remorse for it. She was flawed but she was never terrible.
In the books Jenny has her own spin-off book series that I absolutely loved. More than the Gossip Girl books. I really hoped they would make that show. Though with the originally big busted, curly haired outcast.
This. From what i vaguely remember, a lot of her actions that everyone thinks are the absolute worst are actually triggered by the other characters (mainly Blair, Chuck, Eleanor) being obviously shitty ans entitled. Whether it happens in the same episode or a few later, Jenny's actions say more about what the other characters do to a person than what Jenny actually wants for herself. All she wanted to do was make clothes. Thats it
I JUST started re-watching gossip girl for the first time since it came out in 2007 and its outrageous the things that happen in every episode. I am only on season 2 but The amount of predatory behavior from chuck bass is out of control. I don't know why every girl was so obsessed with him growing up its really eye opening watching it again.
Because we didn’t know better and it’s a guilty pleasure? Reformed hot bad dude that’s trash to everyone but his true love? Basically watt pad fan fiction. Even me in my 20s who knows how toxic Chuck and his relationship with Blair was, still can’t help but root for them.
People do differentiate between real life and fiction, and Chuck is a compelling character. Also once we acknowledge a character's misbehavior as a trait clearly signaled in story, we kind of move on past it and look for other things in them - this is why we are able to enjoy shows like Dexter, why watching a redemption is more rewarding than watching someone good from the start, and why when a good person misbehave we judge them more harshly
He tries to rape two women in the first episode. I can't get past that. And it's not like he didn't behave abominably in the rest of the show. No, Blaire isn't innocent, but he did some reprehensible things when it came to her (no spoiler, I'll just say: hotel).
@Joey First of all for the sake of accuracy: these were sexual assaults, not rape attempts - not less bad, but people confusing these does irritate me. Second: I understand that you can't get past that, but I can since this is fiction, and it is used later in his character development (I am also capable of liking characters that are worse, like murderers) and as bad as he is, Blair is also terrible, she did terrible things not just to random people, but to those very close to her, including Chuck - I for example had real problem with getting over the toast thing - similar to the hotel thing and this happened before that, was utterly unprovoked, her objective there was not remotely as crucial to her as the hotel was for him and there were other ways to get it - she still did it and was only sorry that she got caught - she deserved dumping for this as much as he deserved it for the hotel thing. This is just an example, there were a lot of situation when Blair did something really bad and it was downplayed by her, the others and the general narration of the show. And while she did not sexually assault anyone, she displayed the same kind of entitlement towards people that causes this kind of behavior. Chuck at least showed some kind of remorse, I felt a deep dissatisfaction with the fact that she never really did.
@@arklul124 l'm sorry, but I don't think you're correct there. He was attempting to have penetrative sex with them without their consent. It doesn't matter if he didn't manage to get their clothes off, that is still attempted rape (as well as being sexual assault). I'm not trying to downplay the terrible things Blaire did; they were both horrendous, toxic people who were constantly trying to score points against each other and I find Blaire loathsome too, but the initial comment was about Chuck so I focussed on him. If I recall correctly, the backlash from the hotel plotline lost them a lot of shippers.
My wife and I watched this series from start to finish recently and I don’t think I have seen a show do character assassination to SO MANY CHARACTERS before, ever. Off the top of my head: -Vanessa is one of the few characters like Nate who has a good head on their shoulders and tells the truth even if it hurts them overall to do so; a good friend to Dan, tries to make it work with the rest of the gang… until her character 180°’s on all of her morals in the Juliet plot to ruin Serena and then is promptly written off the show. Very very weird - Jenny’s character is butchered by the writers to the point where they write her off as well. Also gonna throw Eric in here because they realized trying to balance a high school plot line for him and Jenny and then also balance the college plots for the Gossip Girl 5 was not something they were capable of doing. - Lily becomes incredibly greedy and borderline evil toward Ivy after CeCe’s death and this leads to the end of her relationship with Rufus, which was one of the most stable and enjoyable parts of the show once they got together. I realize now that the reason they did this HAD to be because they wanted Dan and Serena to end up together and didn’t want their parents to also be together. - Even Rufus gets assassinated when he falls into the arms of a woman his daughter’s age after having arguably the best integrity of any character on the show. There are others but these are the ones that made me wonder wtf the writers were doing lol
+ Serena ist after season 1 unbelievable unreflective, hypocritical and selfish to a point it’s comical. The way she gets back to people who don’t worship her, cuts people off who try to explain stuff and at the same time her being totally unable to articulate what the hell is going on on her side is incredible. How she treated Ivy after the revelation and Lola after she gets jealous of her or sabotages blair like always shows that very good.
YES and can we talk about this stupid «no, mom, you and Rufus can't be together because I'm dating Dan!!»? what's your problem? it is not incest at all, it just doesn't make sense
Im glad you said Chuck DID assault S and J in the pilot. In a lot of videos analysing GG they say he TRIED TO which is an understatment. The way he forced himself on them and wouldn’t take a no is sexual assault
Nate should've been goosip girl. That's why he never post on it. That's why he took a backseat after season 1. He hates the upper east side. He hates Serena for choosing Dan. He hates Blair cause he forced him in a relationship that he didn't want. He hates Chuck because after he started chasing Blair he didn't give him enough attention as his friend. Yeah sometimes he destroyed his own life but guess what he wouldn't care. Edit, he hates Dan because he stole Serena from him duh:)
Man, Dorota as Gossip Girl would have been a great reveal. I can see her doing it in a twisted way as a parental figure who sees all these kids running around with no one caring what they get up to.
Well not really because Dakota has stated in many cases that she is loyal to Blair and that she loved blair too it just doesn't fit with her character especially since Blair was the one what the biggest hit from gossip girl
The fact that Blair said she thought it was Dorota was always funny to me because if she genuinely thought that and never tried to stop her then what was all that about???
I actually like Dan and Blair relationship. For a long time I didn't know why but then it hit me. Dan and Blair at that moment where different characters for me. Two people that got a person in common and didn't like each other. They hate each other. Then with the time they become sort of best friends and end together. A plot twist that is outside of the expectations of the mc pairs. That is what I like. That at that point they where complete different characters in a other damn storyline or universe and I freaking love it.
I binged watched the show several years ago and I remember their relationship was one of the few things that stood out to me. After seeing them together you wonder why dan was ever with serena in the first place. It sucks that it was used as a device to get chuck and blair back together cause I think it could've shown so much development if blair and dan stayed together.
I hated how basic the show became, couples that started were the ones that ended up together. Dan and Blair, Chuck and Eva, Serena and Nate were the way, without being predictable and making sense. Chuck hurt Blair a lot, he hit her, he traded her for a hotel, he broke her heart a thousand times, he didn't deserve her. Nate was made to sleep with half a series but it is known that he was always in love with Serena. Chuck and Eva had a nice and wholesome history. Nate and Serena loved each other in the past and never really stopped loving each other, even Serena had her heart divided into 2 parts. While Dan and Blair were literally the best couple, two different worlds kind of complement each other, one grounding the other. I am sorry that they followed the easy path and not the correct one.
I'm sure it was all really expensive but the fashion gets progresibly worse as the show goes, maybe they were just accepting money from everyone to sell this ugly looks
@@BarbaraAnnB-yi5ew Actually, the writers planned it out during the last 2 seasons that Eric was gossip girl, but then that info got leaked to the news and to blogs, so they changed it up to be Dan. Terrible decision since it made no sense.
Not to mention Dorota was kinda loaned to most of the big families for their huge parties. She could of been everywhere and anywhere and just be like “oh I’m doing stuff for Blaire”
Things that would’ve fixed the finale for me: - No one should’ve been gossip girl. By season 6 it made 0 logistical sense that any of the main cast were GG, and it had already been established in the past that her power comes from people sending her tips. GG staying anonymous would’ve been the right call. - Rufus and Lily should’ve ended up together. Let’s be honest, almost every conflict they ever had seemed so forced and shoehorned in either to make Lily the bad guy, or to make room for Dan and Serena. If you wanted a Derena endgame so bad, why even have the Rufus and Lily plot? Why take it so far? Why make it last so long? - Serena should’ve ended up with Nate. I hate even pairing Nate with such a morally questionable character because he somehow happened to be the sweetest of the core characters, but they actually got along really well, had similar attitudes towards their lifestyle, both a little bit dumb, and I didn’t hate Serena when she was with him. - Chuck should’ve ended up alone. I know the writers _really_ tried to redeem Chuck, but with every step forward, he took 3 steps back. His character was constantly being progressed and regressed spontaneously that I wasn’t comfortable with where he ended up in the series. I don’t buy that he wouldn’t resort to abusive tendencies in the future. - Dan and Blair should’ve ended up together. This is a couple I _hated_ while watching the show the first time. I loathed them…but somehow they make all the sense in the world. By season 4 they get along great, they scheme together, but also make room for casual fun. I mean, when Dan wrote Louis’ vows, Blair said it was like he peered into her soul! I think their love was more mature than most on the show and above all, they made each other happy in a non-destructive way. - Jenny deserved proper redemption. She was a kid when she did all her antics and then she just got exiled after being take advantage of by Chuck??? Icky.
I’m re-watching this video for a second time and after reading this comment I genuinely had to look back and see if I made it because this is exactly how I feel about the show😭 this is the most perfect way to end the show and they missed the mark so completely
You know that guys like Chuck often end up being strict conservative fathers?) re Dan & Blair: absolutely right. Lust and deceitful appreactation won over soul-mating, but it often happens in complex with stupidity and childish naivety. Except for Blair is anything but stupid re Jenny: well, there's little authors could do about Jenny with her plea to pursue music career and drop off her role in series
Yeah - Taylor Momsen did the only reasonable thing - jump when the show was on a high. She said she wanted to leave and got this story line - I mean why should she complain when you can leave with a bang? The other actors probably wish in hindsight they did the same. I do still like the aesthetics of the show after S1 and you still care about the characters - but really it goes downhill fast. I agree - Dan and Blair, Nate and Serena, Lily and Humphrey. Jenny having her own fashion line would have been great though 😍🙃
The rest of the cast did worst things in season 1 than Jenny did in the whole show. I feel like people don't like her because of her social standing. They did the same thing to dan in season 6. He started to play the game the way the rest of them did and he was painted as the villan.
Problem with Dan was that he was always judging people and then he became even worse than what he judged negatively. He judged Serena about everything and that is stupid because he first liked her for being the "it" girl.
Dan was always a hypocrite who believed himself to be better than them and was always open about it. In s6 he attacked everyone without any provocation, especially Serena.
For me it was the difference between being born into war and choosing it. I also think it was the actress, someone else prob could have carried it off better. Also, also, the way Jenny and Dan acted like they were on the breadline was irritating, sure they weren’t multimillionaires but they were doing rather well. A lot of ppl would have looked at their lives the same way they looked at Blaire and co’s lives.
@@kmhkennedy Yes, Jenny had a choice between the two worlds and chose the "dark one", so her behavior would only be justified if she fully owned the consequences of her action which she didn't, she kind of chose to play with fire and and then complained when she got hurt. And the actress' performance did not help, I think It kind of lacked charm? In this show it mattered because a lot of the characters had it, all of the main cast except for her managed to add something extra to their charact ers, even side characters like Lily, Georgina or Jack had sort of a charm to them.
@@zaikhan9215 It's not that she isn't likeable as a person. She just belonged on a different show. Vanessa served no purpose on Gossip Girl from the moment she showed up in Dan's window till she disappeared and nobody even noticed that she never returned. Her plotlines were secondary to the main characters for the most part and did nothing to advance the arc of the series. She was more like a set decoration than a character and it's a shame because she had some decent backstory and Jessica Szohr did a fantastic job with her. But the writers apparently saw no use for her and made her an annoying distraction to the overall series.
@@zaikhan9215 Actually I take one thing back. She did one thing that advanced one plotline but I won't say what it is because you're only on season 3 😁
I think making Gossip Girl no one would have been such a good ending, because it would have been this mysterious higher power having control over all these rich people who act like no one can touch them. Too many shows have been ruined because writers feel the need to outsmart the audience and it’s so annoying. PSA: if your audience can figure out the answer to a mystery you wrote, it’s ok! In fact it can sometimes be a sign of good writing. The reveal doesn’t always be shocking, sometimes it can have build up, be methodical and make sense
Even though they bring up the mystery of who gossip girl is a few times throughout the series, it's hardly the focus of the show. Instead, the chacters see Gossip Girl as this omnipresent, all-powerful, inevitable force. She practically exists just to keep them in check, and punish their wrongdoings. The function of Gossip Girl is more similar to a deity than an actual person, and we see this in the way the characters view her. Just because people were apparently expecting a reveal to neatly finish the series doesn't mean there had to be one.
@@akom3640 i instantly thought of Pretty Little Liars and the reveals that made 0 sense after Season 2. Literally that show got spoiled because the fans were smart and good at creating plausible storylines that Marlene felt the need to outdo the fan theories.
I recently rewatched the entire series and I wholeheartedly agree with you. By the end of season 3 you're just like "what the hell, there's still 3 seasons left?" Literally, nothing really interesting happens. Serena's plots are only about dating a million guys and that she is finally happy and finding herself, meanwhile, she NEVER finds herself and by the end of the show she's jobless, with no education, no place to live and humiliated by the chapter Dan publishes about her after they got back together. As you said, Chuck and Blair lived in a loop and the writers wanted to keep their happy ending for the finale SO MUCH that they just kept inventing weird reasons for them not to be together. There's one plot in the middle of the series that I like that is when Blair just "accepts" that she is a horrible person that doesn't deserve love or happiness and then Chuck realizes what he's done to her self-esteem and decides to let her go. They should have kept them separated for the rest of the series to do some character growth after that but they just keep going back to each other.
I really wished GG went more into Blair's eating disorder. It was highlighted in one episode and briefly mentioned in a few others, then dropped all together. I think it was important to discuss it more for the sake of her character.
for what i know, this subject wasn't explored because the audience was too young, so it was all talked in a subtle way, but yeah i think it would be nice to talk about it in a more open way
@@luxt91 there was literal sex, booze, and alcohol. Alongside suicide, overdose, and MURDER… but an eating disorder is too much? Weird place to draw the line 😂😂
1) dorota or eric should’ve been gossip girl 2) serena should’ve ended up with nate 3) jenny isn’t that bad, it’s just that blair hates her and most of their audience worship blair. 4) chuck literally assaulted jenny? why didn’t people do more about it?
Jenny in the character summary is ambitious but not... like. Rating her in a villan scale.. she is prime time possibly superhero villain. Maybe even life time villan at lowest.. The others are monsters of their own design and by the design of others.
@@karlac798 Jenny slept with Chuck because she was vulnerable and immediately regretted it. I cannot remember if it was to get revenge but it was at the time Jenny was seeking guidance from Chuck when everyone else had turned their back on her because of Blair.
@@sovp8804 I also didn’t like the fact that Blair said that no one loved Jenny because we all know that’s not true and she went too far which pushed her to the edge.
Just finished rewatching Gossip Girl and crazy enough I personally think, Blair and Dan make sense especially considering in Dan’s book you can see how he also cares for Blair which makes me think his arc with her from enemy to friend to lover is earned as he also is selfless when it comes to choosing her happiness at the time over his own (besides season 6) but also Dan season 6 was such a walking middle finger that I really enjoyed it because Dan’s writing actually critiques the show and it’s so self aware, that the show seems a whole lot better through the scope of Dan’s writing. It really shows that even though you express the truth there is a way that it can still be considerate for others
@@beautifullEternal that makes sense bc her kids took her for granted while you could see that chuck really cared about having a caring parental figure.
I think the moral of your TH-cam videos (all together) is probably: before you make a show, have a plan. Then, even if the audience guesses that plan, go with it. Because otherwise you’ll fuck up so much of the plot and characters that it’ll ruin everything. Being predictable is better then being terrible.
@@sovp8804 Being predictable to the fans if fine as long as the characters in the show are completely surprised. I am going to use an example from another show, but will keep it vague if you or anyone else haven't watched it. Prime Video's Invincible did this perfectly. We, the audience, found out the twist in the first dang episode, but it took the rest of the characters closer to the end of Season One to find out who did it. The writers, instead of trying to get us to gasp at the plot twist, showed us what happens but makes the characters in the show the subject of the revelation. We can look at how the culprit hides what he has done and how each character finds out, making it so much better than the cookie-cutter Disney twist villain trope. It is expected everyone will find out the secret in the end, but how they do so is the real treat!
@@auliamate I am definitely going to watch this show now, but I agree the execution of the characters is what makes watching any show that gives it away at the start all worth it. I will still say that GG was well carried for the first few seasons and the writing was all over the place but the actors all pulled through it and executed the performance. I will say the Disney-related trope is in everything and nothing can ever be different and must be all cookie cutter so I hope this show will be out of the box or even more borderline realistic.
honestly even just planning out the season and giving it one big arc to give the episodes a purpose is good enough. Instead what the gg writers did was shuffle through plotlines and end the season on a cliffhanger to set up the next season of shuffling through plotlines.
It’s the fact that every time you hear about gossip girl, it’s ALWAYS about Blair. Had I not gotten to know the show I would’ve thought she was the main character because people only ever talk about her. And it’s painfully obvious how irrelevant Serena becomes in later seasons, especially when they’ll be entire episodes that don’t even focus on her.
Writers messed up Chuck's character in season one when they made him force himself on Jenny, an underage girl. It's impossible to redeem a character after that. They should have kept him as womanizer, rich, spoilt kid. That way there would have been possibilities to redeem him.
100%. if they wanted a bad boy redemption for blair’s love interest they could have done so much with carter baizen and made him a main character. he has a similar ‘im chuck bass’ kind of energy and clearly knows how the upper east side works. but instead they just made him one of serena’s many irrelevant boyfriends
I so agree! Interestingly enough, The creators of Stranger Things actually intended to do this with Steve Harrington, selfish spoilt rich boy, who deliberately was supposed to rape his GF Nancy, but because the actors nature and charisma was too appealing they decided to write that out, in order to make him a redeemed, like-able character instead. Honestly Gossip Girl was promising at first but then brutally disappointing, I would have loved to see Chuck having the same character development as Steve Harrington, from becoming this selfish, annoying, rich boy into a redeemed and mature character, and still with human flaws. There was so much potential to dwell into his character, an they did not fulfill it :(((
Assaulting Jenny is the first scene we see Chuck in the books so they didn’t invent it out of thin air. Chuck is not so desperately redeemed in the books either, and is also bisexual, AND has a weird pet monkey 😂 I wish they’d made him more eclectic and weird on top of just being a rich asshole in the shows like he is in the books.
@@hadif.6477 It was a friendly kiss. The show confirmed it... saying that Lily married her Ex (Serena & Eric's father...the one who made her think she had cancer) and she and Rufus were friends again...that it was a friendly kiss. He sat down next to Lisa Loeb (who was a big singer at the time of the series first aired) to show that he was finally with someone who was like minded.
I loved Nate in season one. As you said, his storyline was the most relatable and compelling. We first meet him when he’s on autopilot, and the moment his father is arrested, we see him taking agency of his own life: He doesn’t get back together with Blair, he takes initiative to prepare for the SATs so he can apply where he wants to go to college - showing he’s actually thinking about it, pursuing his own path, and I love that you pointed out he’s the only person who treats others as, well, people. He’s compassionate, thoughtful and flawed.
I'm rewatching again. So I Stan Nate in the beginning. How he actually stopped Chuck from fighting. He didn't add or subtract from the drama. He just redirected Chuck to leave without degrading anyone. He wanted to his family to be of integrity, trying to find who he is outside of his Mother's legacy and fathers spiraling identity
I just watched GG and I was expecting to hate Nate for cheating on Blair and ditching her on her birthday, but he was the only rich character I could stand
jenny's actress completely dropped acting after gossip girl and actually makes really good rock music in her band, The Pretty Reckless! she's an incredible singer now
So disappointed and sad too when Dan dismissed her for good like trash...hello a few episodes earlier he was SO in love with her blablabla... Vanessa is so villanized and deemed irrelevant when she actually made Dan what he ended up being, to some extent of course. Vanessa was a great down to earth secondary character... and was in the plot of so many episodes!!!! Why are people being so unfair to her ?? things got f-up for Vanessa with the sister-of-the-boarding-school-teacher-who-got-in-jail-because-of-lily drama.... appreciation post for Vanessa here 💓 💖 💗
Blair’s quips and oneliners were incredible “I can skip dinner now that I’m so full of humiliation” startled the loudest laugh out of me when I first watched
Blair is the most hilarious character on Gossip Girl. "Well I can see my advice went the way of the clog." James as Blair removes her pin from his sleeve: "Oh I didn't feel a thing." Blair: "Hmm neither did I." "I'm not a stop along the way. I'm a destination." Chuck: "She stole my shoes???" Blair coming down the stairs in her Diana Payne outfit: "Hello, dahling! YOU'RE adorable!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
BETTER ENDING: Dan Humphrey is covering the real identity of Gossip Girl: Nate, as said on the video, he didn't control his own life, he was betrayed and treated like a "thing" by his friends, family, and lovers. So yeah, it perfectly fits that he unleashes his anger and frustration on Gossip Girl website as a way to revenge and also unmask and expose the awful inside of rich people society. And also it would be a plot twist that his boring character (who someone said on the comments it could be replaced by a golden retriever), was actually an interesting one, with a deep and shady side that nobody noticed. But as they became friends, Nate actually reveals the true to Dan, and let him WRITE the story so he could sell books and become rich, so they share the money and Nate can finally break free from his family legacy and become independent but with a comfort wealthy life.
I am in the minority here, but, plot holes aside, I liked the IDEA of Dan as Gossip Girl. I think it fits with the whole point of the show being that even though you despise these people they are so alluring that you want to be a part of their world, and Dan wanted to write himself into it any way he could. But I must say that your idea with Nate and Dan is a lot more interesting!
@@user-br6kk9oo7p yeah, it would work but there were so many plot holes, like Dan being surprised at his phone when he was exposed while being alone....makes no sense, the writers trying so hard to “shock” the audience smh
I mean I will say the worst thing Jenny did was just everything in that Serena’s teacher plotline. Like okay Serena was mean to you one time so you conspired with a crazy stalker to ruin her life, get her kicked out of college, and (unbeknownst to Jenny) roofied and framed for a drug overdose. That was really the moment I was done with Jenny and Vanessa. It was all too much for Serena who had been nothing but pretty nice to both of them.
What about being an ungrateful toxic brat towards her father, who, let's all remember, payed for her fancy school tuition just to see his daughter F it all up and nearly obtain legal emancipation only because she (a literal 15 year old) wants to WoRk In FaShIoN. Like girl, sit your ass down and finish the school you wanted to attend so much and then you can gtfo! 🙄
I agree I don't know what got into Vanessa at that moment, but it is also pretty realistic since their actions comes from a place of jealousy : they were both interested in a guy that only had eyes for Serena. Irl women go after the other woman all the Time.
I’ve always thought that the most important character in Gossip Girl, and the one that continually saved it and made it interesting, wasn’t any of the one’s played by actors... it was NYC. Specifically, it was the elite bubble of NYC. The real estate and fashion porn, specific to NYC, in the show is really what kept people hooked and coming back for more. It was the fantasy of it all, more so than the actual storyline, that made the show the cultural zeitgeist that it was. People didn’t want to be Serena, Blair or Chuck because they liked them as a person, they wanted to be them because they loved how and where they lived. The exact same show, with the exact same storyline’s and character’s, wouldn’t have worked anywhere else outside of wealthy New York. It at least wouldn’t have been nearly as successful or culturally defining. Imagine Serena or Blair in Houston or Cleveland and suddenly it doesn’t work and no one wants to be them any longer.
I guess that may be a reason why there are so many "copies" (or maybe spinoffs?) in other countries, because every country has their own New York of a city
@@daniellins4114 Yeah, to a certain extent. There’s really only three other cities outside of New York it could have possibly worked in while still retaining the spirit of the show, and they are Los Angeles, Paris and London. It could only really work in major global cultural capitals. They actually used LA and Paris as settings in the original show for that reason, cuz they’re two of the three other settings the show was possible in. It could probably work to a certain extent in places like Hong Kong and Melbourne and Toronto too, but not to the same degree and it would lose some of its “spirit” within those settings imo. NY, LA, Paris and London are the only places the show could have worked exactly as it did.
@@nevm7469 London is definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. Maybe possible, but ehh.. I dont see it. Paris is definitely possible, and los angeles too. But in LA it'd have a different tone, the lifestyle there is just too different. Chicago would just a be a dull and a little boring version of NY. In the east, I can see Tokyo and the #1 choice. Hong Kong, Seoul and Singapore could be possible too. (Melbourne wouldn't cut it, maybe just regionally). Dubai in the Middle East. A few places in Africa could cut it but wouldn't have any international/global appeal. Theyd be very local. Same with alot of places in Latin America aside from Mexico city or Buenos Aires.... alot of these just dont have the global appeal of NYC
@@nevm7469 London is definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. Maybe possible, but ehh.. I dont see it. Paris is definitely possible, and los angeles too. But in LA it'd have a different tone, the lifestyle there is just too different. Chicago would just a be a dull and a little boring version of NY, same with Toronto. In the east, I can see Tokyo and the #1 choice. Hong Kong, Seoul and Singapore could be possible too. (Melbourne wouldn't cut it, maybe just regionally). Dubai in the Middle East. A few places in Africa could cut it but wouldn't have any international/global appeal. Theyd be very local. Same with alot of places in Latin America aside from Mexico city or Buenos Aires.... alot of these just dont have the global appeal of NYC
The only thing that really really ever bothered me with the show was, how lily could end up with her ex husband that literally poisoned her to make her believe she had cancer. Like. .. Wtf.
FUN FACT: Lily Collins was in the running for the role of Blair Waldorf CORRECTION: She actually auditioned for Jenny and I also found out Jennifer Lawrence was up for Serena
Honestly, I think that if the writers had planned Dan to be Gossip Girl then it could’ve been amazing. There’s several references to F. Scott Fitzgerald in the series and Dan writing himself into the world of the rich & famous to get the girl of his fantasies would’ve been such a Gatsby-esc move. I say this recognising that in this scenario both Gatsby and Dan are honestly out of their minds (and in my dream scenario Dan would never have ended up with Serena but rather everyone would’ve turned against him like they turned against Gatsby, but instead of dying Dan would just become a social outcast with loads of money but no friends). But for the ending to have worked the writers should’ve planned for this in advantage so that the show would not have had so many plotholes. The way I view it part of Dan’s personality change within the seasons would then partly have been about him becoming more and more psychotic the deeper he got into the Gossip Girl persona and partly from him dropping parts of his façade at times. But obviously this is not how it all worked out but I can see Dan being Gossip Girl as a technically great idea.
I remember that the parents didn’t like the show, because there was a lot of alcohol, drugs and sex, but if you compare with the shows we watch today, we’ll, gossip girl is not that problematic 😂
we can say that it's thanks to GG that now It's so normal to have such shows but it surely was problematic by the standards we had back then when it was first aired
I agree about Jenny, she was great and her arc made complete sense. She was naive and kind but her character changed because of the people surrounding her and acted out because that’s what she was learning from the people around her. But the show always explained her motivations well.
I couldn’t agree more on the jenny part. she’s too over hated for being not as bad as the rest of the upper east siders. like other people on the show was worse than she ever was
I can't hate Jenny she is actually my favourite character. Jenny is the product of her circumstances, also being a few years younger than everyone else in the end she is a minor being corrupted by adults.Everyone gives Jenny shit for what happened to Serena, but she didn't know that would happen to Serena, once again she went along with what people older than her were doing. Also lets not forget a similar thing happened to Jenny, she got drugged and abandoned in a bar for men to sexually assault her.
Is just me or did the show look more "cinematic" in season 1 only? It looked more and more soapy towards the end with them filming in sets most of the time.
From my understanding I think I heard they changed their production team from the beginning which could be a reason why and I also heard that was why there was so much heavy product placement in later seasons too but idk for sure
Agreed. I think the colouring is different too. Season one seemed paler to me? Like you could still see very vibrant colours, but the overall colours are less warm toned in season one than in later seasons. It reminds me a little of the difference between twilight and new moon. Season one looked real whereas later seasons look very Hollywood fake.
I don't think so, she was loyal to Blair and writing a lot of stuff about her private life or her secrets wouldn't be okay. Dorota is such a good character, good person, she's just too pure to write things the original GG wrote.
Dan and blair together is really good.. they grow together and they talk about healthy things, things weve never seen any of them talking about.. theyre just being super friends and watching movies and having fun..
@@sofiaarmendariz7539 I've never seen Gossip Girl, so I don't know about this. I don't understand why was Jenny slut shamed when Chuck is a rapist and he was redeemed?!
Because Blair is the defenition of Girlboss turf feminism, she would rather blame Jenny than stand up to Chuck, forgetting that she and Chuck weren't dating at the time, she did the same thing with Nate and Serena, slut shamed Serena but never actually anything to Nate, he's not even blamed, Serena is forever labeled the girl who slept with her BFFs boyfriend and Jenny is the social climber who stole the Queens man but the men are blameless because Blair needs and craves their validation, she's even mad at Serena for sleeping with Dan when she and Dan broke up
I never made it through season1 so i cant say anything about gossip girl beyond it but part of the reason i stopped watching was because jenny became a dick. She went from a genuinely nice person who tries to feel included to a discount version of blair in about 5episodes or so
Jenny is one of my favourite characters in the series. She has a lot of depth and her actions are not so far fetched in my opinion. Your view of her story is very interesting. To me her storyline always showed how the world of money and power can corrupt even the sweetest person and she always felt just lost and desperate to find her place in the world she now is a part of. She is just a child that grows into a teenager who -as I bet we all did - has a hard time dealing with growing up
Also, I would have liked if the ending of the show was similar to the ending of the books. In the books, Blair breaks up with Chuck because she's not ready for a serious commitment, Serena breaks up with Dan because she wants to do things on her own, both girls reject Nate who is constantly trying to get with them and cheat on them, and we never get to know who Gossip Girl is because is not that important to the story. By the way, one of the writers spoke up about how they were planning to make Nate be GG, because he was the only one who had never sent any tips and gossip for her and he was building the Spectator, which was basically an adult version of GG. He said that when he left the show they changed it to Dan.
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for a good few minutes there I was so entertained by the jack sparrow discussion I forgot this video was about gossip girl
Same
omggg SAME
SAME! 😂
Jenny Nicholson makes a great video on the same lines as the discussion in this video
Lol same here!
The strongest thing about GG was the fact that all lead actors made their characters much more then they were on paper...
That's why most of the actors on the show are still relevant today. Because they are geniunely charismatic and talented. GG would be nothing without the cast.
@@yelitzablanco2692 are they thooooo?
@@GodsFaveSim sebastian stan is also doing super well right now
@@kyb3rcrystals Yessas !!!!!
exactly, gossip girl has such longevity that it’s still known today and actually made a name for the actors that were apart of it..
Gossip Girl is a case study on how brilliant costume and set designers and extremely charismatic actors can carry an entire television show to immense success even if the writers room is just inventing new boyfriends for Serena every 3 weeks and calling it a plot lmao.
#Riverdale
The entire serena's character
Very true
@@tefigargiulo5273 riverdale is fun but the actors/set don’t really save it lol
@@tefigargiulo5273 essentially
Gossip was a luxury escapism that hit well in an era of financial depression. I think that why it was successful.
Very well said!
LOUDER! I feel like that’s all there was to it. It was about the glamour. Not much than that
yes!
Other glamour shows did not become as big a hit as GG in that time though.
Exactly. It made us feel like a part of a world we never wore and never will be a part of.
I actually dont think Dan and Blair were thrown together for shock value at all. Upon rewatching, I realized they had one of the more refreshing and fleshed out relationships in the show. They built a friendship in season 4 and 5 and didn't get together til the end of season 5, which is more development than 90% of the relationships on the show.
True. They're definitely my favorite GG couple
And the had so many things in common since season one even though the didn't liked each other.
Yes. I was rooting for them so hard honestly
best ship on this show
Dan and Blair was the best relationship on the show, with absolutely no debates lol
The Gossip Girl reveal should have always been Kristen Bell sending a text, breaking the fourth wall by winking at the audience, and then walking away down a busy NY street, because she really is nobody and everybody
That would be fucking amazing
Veronica Mars crossover? 😁
YES!!!
I’m so glad in the new reboot that they take away the mystery of who Gossip Girl is upfront in the first few minutes of the first episode. It prevents them from making the same type of plot mistake as the original and it honestly doesn’t really matter who GG is... that’s not the point of the show lol. Even if she’s executed by a single individual she’s really everybody.
That would have been the best
To this day I believe that Serena’s father was the worst plot line. HE FAKED HER MOTHER’S CANCER TO KEEP HER DEPENDENT ON HIM. NATE WAS THE ONLY RATIONAL PERSON BY CALLING THE POLICE. AND SERENA JUST LETS HIM GO??? AND THEN LILLY ENDS UP WITH HIM? WTF??? I have never been able to watch past it.
Serena was so desperate to have a fatherly figure that shed literally let that issue slide under the rug and let him go when in reality he didnt even care about his kids, he cared more about his own social standing in his own world, had serena not made such an effort to get in contact with him, it wouldntve happened, he wouldntve seen her. Then throw his own actions with having lily have fake cancer and JENNY being the one to notice something and everyone shut jenny out because of her own actions, jenny was young and impressionable, much like anyone at her age would be realistically.
TELL ME ABOUT IT. Not to mention him having a kid with Lily's sister. Like eww
Lily is so afraid of loneliness, and Bart is dead, Rufus... sort of dead too (he f****** sleep with Ivy Dickens wtf). So actually she NEEDS William and she don't care of who he is cause the important fact is : he is right there.
But she should have ended up with Humphrey sure.
I like to pretend that never happened and Lilly and Rufus are still a thing.
agree and it was so dragged out.
Blair surprisingly has the best family life out of all the main characters lol. She has a loving, caring and strong mother who is willing to reprimand her and correct her when she’s wrong, she has Dorota as an emotional support and Cyrus is a really good father figure in her life as well (plus her real dad and his partner are nice and loving too)
her mother encouraged her eating disorder and told her, in front of Serena, to have a low-fat yogurt instead of eating a croissant in a very pointed way. poor girl couldn't even have a croissant for breakfast with a friend without her mom saying something and embarrassing her, not to mention normalizing focusing on what she eats when as someone who's gone through recent bulimia treatment she should *not* be encouraged to do that
@@gothboithickexactly! Literally Blair said she wrote the book on distracted self-centred mothers as her mother often forgets her birthday and always comments on her appearance if it’s to criticise.
@@kareemabegum9082 i didn't even remember that she forgets her birthdays. that's so sad :(
are you kidding?? her mother was fucking awful
I agree. Blair got to have a better understanding with her mother throughout the seasons.
Serena had her brother. He was so kind and did right by her in the beginning.
Can we talk about how they all just suddenly stopped going to university? Like, why is no one attending classes?
My thoughts exactly 😂 lol and I would have much more questions for writers if I had a chance to speak with them, they really done some weird(unexplainable) stuff
Did any of them graduate? It seems especially weird that they didn't show Dan or Blair still doing their classes because they were most academically driven out of all of them
this almost ALWAYS HAPPENS when they don't know what to do with the characters of a show once they graduate the high school that putted them together in the first place.
It's insane, but literally happens in most shows if you look closely lol
That’s what I was literally thinking about the other day...
People always pick on Dan as Gossip Girl thing as a plot hole, but the abandonment of their education is a much bigger plot hole in my opinion.
Lol biggest WTF of gossip girl was me believing Dan was poor homie wasn't poor 😭
Big ass loft in Brooklyn, his dad being a retired rock star and a gallery owner like...🤯
Yeah as a 13 year old I really thought he was such a peasant and bordering on hobo😂😂😂I think his loft costs more than 5 houses combined on my street
And their dad still paid for two of his children to go the most prestigious private schools in New York they were rich
@@Flora-ix3os well they probably had financial aid/scholarships, but still. Not poor.
There’s a wide gap between rich and wealthy..
Nate could have been literally replaced with Golden Retriever and the show would have been almost exactly the same by the end.
This!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, it would have been better.
@@sabrinac8453 I agree with you 🤣👌
Lol you nailed it
This is why I don’t get the hype around Nate. He does nothing and if he is doing something it’s causing wars between the female characters
I think Dan being GG is a great twist if they planned it out from the beginning.
Also, something that bothered me about the show: did they all just stop going to college? It's just never mentioned.
The college aspect has always bothered me too!! They never mention anything about it after their second year and suddenly they all have jobs. Did they just all decide to drop out of school?
yeah haha so true last time I was like "Wait they were in Columbia but it stopped at all of a sudden?"
They couldn't afford to shoot at campus anymore iirc, so they kind of swept this aspect under the rug
It was Dan from the pilot, they actually changed the pilot to make it less obvious after test audiences guessed it.
I think they must have changed their minds at one point, and then changed it back, because there are so many things that don't line up about it
@@mk-yt8og I think most shows get bored with the school aspect of things. They did the same with Dawson’s Creek, Buffy (like one season of college), Felicity (supposed to be set in school, but she never goes to class), Charmed (Phoebe goes to school to get her degree, but they never show her doing the work anymore), Alias (the main character is undercover as a college student but they never show her in class). Every show I’ve seen set in school, eventually barely shows them in school anymore. Even Teen Wolf.
I’m sorry but just imagine if gossip girl was Nate it would give him such an insane dark twist and would give him so much depth
true especially when you consider what he mentioned about nate actually feeling like he didn't belong
IKR
Oh my god yes it would’ve been so much better
that actually would've been iconic like if he started running spectator because he wanted to rebrand gossip girl
also the fact that Nate has never sent anything to gossip girl... if he was gossip girl, he wouldnt need to....!
Don't forget all the plot about getting in an ivy league university to finally being accepted and then suddenly all characters never atended again (?) like what 😂
It was so pointless.
that annoyed me so much!! they didn't even bother explaining it or even making them mention it every once in a while like nope nothing what university??
Okay but why does that also make sense for rich people
True but tons of rich people barely spend time in University. My cousin goes to Columbia and tons of the rich trust fund kids are always on some kind of vacation and barely show up to class. They pay their classmates to help them out.
“For people like us a college degree is just an accessory. Like a Malawi baby or a poodle.” - Chuck Bass
How dare you say Rufus didn't have a personality??! He made waffles!!
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Uh excuse me. He also made chili and bolognese.
The show did Nate dirty. His character had so much potential and the writers just kinda dropped him... Although he probably holds the record for Least Morally Corrupted Character in GG 😂
I really would have loved it if Nate was actually Gossip Girl!! Because the show depicted Nate as kind of a air head who sleeps with everyone in sight. It would’ve been great to see that he was actually smarter than everyone imagined. It would even explain why his character was suddenly interested in journalism or how Nate never sent in a tip to Gossip girl.
@@karleighrock593 Honestly? I'm just ignoring Dan being GG and have been thinking it was Nate this whole time.
@@Ji-zt7ny the only way it would’ve made sense for him to be GG , if Dan and Jenny were both Gossip Girl. The episode should’ve been a lot longer to explain how they both made the website and how they were able to send GG posts at certain times throughout the series. I still think it would’ve been amazing if Nate was Gossip girl .
You can’t tell me when someone says “xoxo” you don’t automatically respond “gossip girl”. This show had power.
Same! And if the person that says it didn’t watch gossip girl I feel betrayed and like...who even are they?! Now I’m a weirdo for referencing a show they didn’t watch but deep down I think they’re the weird one. 😂
I said that iconic line when someone was finishing their letter-like dialogue in another TV show (their high-pitched voice made it more funny). I don't remember the show. 🤣
@@taschkaturnquist dude I didn’t even watch it like that, and I still knew after “xoxo” you better say “gossip girl” . It’s the law. 😂
I'm a guy who didn't care about GG and even I think of Gossip Girl when someone says xoxo.
I barely watched it but my mind always went to that
As far as I’m concerned the pilot episode isn’t cannon. It occurs in an alternate universe. You cannot tell me Chuck and Nate rode a public bus to school.
stahpppp!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For real!! 🤣
1000% when I rewatched it and saw that in the first episode I laughed so hard 😂
Can you explain what cannon is ?
@@theastronaut3570 the official truth
the most unrealistic thing about gossip girl is blair’s s. 5 wedding look. you can’t convince me that with her fashion sense, her mom being a big designer and her money she ended up looking like that on her wedding to a literal prince
I know right 😂 I was so mad when I saw that dress and hair. How could they do this to her? Especially, that hair was the worst
@@FM-ed9bn OMG THE HAIR! I was so mad at the hair, specifically because it want even curled all the way through!
So cookie cutter
She was looking more awesome in her fast wedding with Chuck 🤩
she looked stunning but it was underwhelming
Gossip girl’s plot holes walked so riverdales plot holes could run
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Underrated comment 😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
well then, PLL's plot holes crawled so Gossip Girl's plot holes could walk
I’m dead-
@@thisgirlpurpleyou3334 pll was the real shit
whoever was the casting director for this show really had an eye for talent because the over-the-topness really was balanced by the mundane and pathetically sad scenes performed by the cast. genuinely, every plot was ridiculous but the deliveries, the set design, costumes, and overall character looks were addicting to watch. im surprised they got a reboot knowing 99% of the original cast do not speak fondly about their experience (because I remember it got to the point where they were trying to sell these actresses/actors AS their characters), but nonsense and all, it’s still fun to revisit over a decade later
Gossip Girl was so problematic, unrealistic, and at times stupid, but was so alluring for the first few seasons.
Gossip girl is based in reality 😂😂😂
@@helenaalmeida8525 yeah but for peasants like me it seemed like a fantasy show sometimes XD
@@helenaalmeida8525 Wait what? 👀
@@itsmartafilipa ya, I think it’s based on a book, from a women who was rich and the book talks about her adventures with her friends, obviously the show has more drama
And then PLL was born 😍
I'm going to be honest, BLAIR carried the whole show and all teen dramas try to add a "Blair" but fails...aka Riverdale aka Emily in Paris aka
I mean Riverdale is a whole mess. Not even a Blair could fix that circus lol
and 90210 with Naomi and PLL with Alison
She was not the first elitist mean girl, and she wouldn’t be the last.
@@Jacob-ip4yt Hanna wasn’t like Blair at all. If anything Hanna was the comedic relief in PLL.
@@donghyucksmom2413 they tried to make Cheryl like Blair
Gossip Girl makes no sense and every character pisses me off at one point or the other, but I still re-watch it every once in a while. I love it.
😂😂 That's sadly true
Stockholm Syndrome
There’s a point somewhere midway through season 3 where i realize that there’s no longer anything good to look forward to (only monaco, ivy, juliet, ben...) ✨ and yet...i always do. Toxic, honestly.
It's so unrealistic it takes you off shitty reality so I watch it for that, definitely not for the good writing lol
@Tanacia Karim LMFAOOOOOOOOoOO it’s addicting all I can like easiest show to binge watch
I think the way Jenny treated her father was her worst trait
@@yukijames1321 SUCH a brat! I really could not form an attachment to her character, I don’t understand the whole girl boss energy. She wasn’t practicing good business, she was never going to be successful doing things the way she was.
He was controlling, making her rebel
@@kxenia7852 Not at all
@@kxenia7852 I don’t think so. He was doing what any other parent would do if their child was doing the wrong things to fit in.
The whole reason I hate Jenny is because of how she treated her dad. She was the worst. He really needed to snap her wannabe ass back to reality and send her to a public school, or to an impoverished area so she could grow up
this video boils down to "the character writing sucked after s1 but the actors are so talented we didn't even notice"
shit, that sums it up perfectly
I mean it was though. Only I never felt the actors were that talented? It helped that the casting was on point, all it takes is one interview to see that Blake Lively IS Serena van der Woodsen.
EDIT: okay Leighton is a queen and has been criminally underrated since GG.
@@destituteanddecadent9106Leighton and Penn are good but most of the time the acting is noticeably awful. Especially from Blake and Chace.
The takeaway is that CW can make good shows but never have any idea where to go after the first season ends and they've already wrapped up the compelling character arcs
So it’s a CW spell
Riverdale in a nutshell; season one was SO good and everything after that was a never ending downgrade.
The CW should switch to HBO-like mini-series broadcast network. All their shows is good up to like 3-4 seasons. I've read Supernatural was originally slated to end after 5 seasons. it ended at 15. If they switched to 8-10-episode 1-4 season run on all their shows, they might even get nominated for awards. Arrow, The 100, Flash season 1 and 2 were so good. Unfortunately CW shows gets stretched so there's so many fillers scenes per episode or filler episode altogether.
This! Honestly. I have lost count of the amount of CW shows that start off good and get ruined post-season one (maybe even two), The writers room get laaaaaazy
see this is why western television should switch to the kdrama or mini series format. one good season with 16-24 compelling episodes and just end it there. short but very sweet. and if there's follow up seasons its usually well done, i don't think ive seen most kdramas go over 2 or 3 seasons from what ive watched so far. when a story is finished, it's finished. i just don't see the point of dragging it out to frickin 13 seasons or whatever number of seasons supernatural has. so ridiculous. there's absolutely no reason that show should've gone beyond its 5th season 😓
I'd rather nate had been gossip girl. would have explained why he was there doing nothing for the whole show
How dare you. He made a good tree.
@@earl_gay he was beautiful to look at
@@oliviag1119 Trueeee- I can't think of a dude who really epitomizes how pretty girls are reduced to their looks like Nate 😅
@@basmalasaad3039 yes you're so right
Hahaha
can we pls talk about the way that dan and serena have a whole plot line about finding out they have a half sibling and are worried about their relationship, then they don’t, then they do and they break up, then the half sibling leaves town never to be seen again, and then the show completely forgets about him and go back to shipping dan and serena. what the fawk 🤩
Wouldn’t that make them quarter siblings?
@@caitlingill theyre completely unrelated
"she's mean, degrading, whiny, manipulative, and entitled...and i love her for that" 😂😂
What a mood. She was a bitch and she knew it, so I could do nothing but vibe with it.
@@lesbiangoddess290 Serena should take some notes
Who doesn't? ❤
I really love Blair ❤️😌
That’s the difference between Blair and Serena, I feel like Serena always tried hard to cover her bad girl side and would never take responsibilitywhen Blair was just smart about it
I'll never forget that moment in season 1 where Serena says "I killed someone" and the music just flips. The way they handled the build up and that moment was incredible. My stomach DROPPED. Very hard for a TV series to affect you like that anymore.
Omg me too 😳
I was a huge gossip girl fan and I always said that was the best scene in the show
Me too!!...ohmaigawd, for me that was the most shocking revelation on GG!
@@sofiaaguirre2601 k ok
Oh my god, it was amazing! I had actually already seen this video before I saw the show so I knew what happened, but it still made my stomach drop.
I thought, Leighton is so charismatic that she would've become very famous actress after GG, but it never happened. Also, I thought the same for Nina Dobrev would become so so insanely famous because I found her range of acting in The Vampire Diaries great. But Nina too never became much famous.
I think Leighton was really interested in her music career as well, I really like her as a singer, just as much as an actress really
They both are still dumb rich though
There’s a difference… I loved the Leighton’s character on GG… but the Nina’s character was honestly the worst of TVD… extremely annoying (of course I’m talking about Elena, Katherine is amazing)
If I’m not mistaken Leighton had a scandal involving her feet? I cannot remember exactly but I do remember it being a big deal back then
@@alejosantacruz7 That indeed is true, Elena was boring. I found Nina's acting skill and diversity interesting because she had to do Katherine, Amara (and another old character I forgot the name) and each character seemed different from each other.
That phenomenon you talk about where a character becomes the one or two personality traits that were interesting is called Flanderization. A character becomes a caricature of themselves. Example: Blair becoming flat and evil rather than it being a coping mechanism, Spongebob becoming ultra stupid and obnoxious, most characters on The Office, etc.
Also, of course, "The Simpsons" character Ned Flanders, after which the phenomenon is named.
@@camelopardalis84 of course
@@cardiganweather Of course, yes 😁. I was explaining this for people who don't know and who want to learn more about it.
OMG YES! I always tell people that Blair basically became a caricature of herself after the first season but I never knew there was a phenomenon surrounding characters becoming flat archetypes
Thank you for reminding me of the name! Lowkey tho I'm gonna keep Jack Sparrow Syndrome it sounds cool 😂
Just thinking about the amount of times I unironically said "like what, we're on Gossip Girl now?" when there was drama in the friend group makes me simultaneously cringe and admire the power this show held.
Serena was supposed to be the main character but Blair completely bulldozed her over in both character writing and acting of Leighton Meester.
i think in the book though it’s based around blair. so idk about that ?
i think in the book though it’s based around blair. so idk about that ?
@@skye3088 it is, and I read the books too, but Blake Lively was coming off Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants when Gossip Girl came out so she was the focus of the marketing for a long while. If you take a look at photoshoots, marketing materials for the show, she's placed as the focal point.
@@hollywooddarling I remember that. I was in school, saw free Gossip Girl posters near the newspaper stand, grabbed one and have no idea what happened to it now but the reason I even checked it out was bc I recognized Blake Lively from Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. I wasn't sure at first but when I was I set a reminder on my TV to check out the show. Idk if I'd have watched the show had that not happened so good on marketing 😅
The books have Blair as the main character because Serena was kind of awful, in the show they tried making Serena the protagonist and having Blake carry the whole thing.. but no character evolution and awful writing still made Blair the most interesting character.
The writers definitely made it Dan for the shock factor and because they had no idea who it should be. In the first few seasons, it was intended to be Eric. The New York Post theorized that it was Eric, so they shifted it to Nate. That also got leaked, so they dropped the idea of Gossip Girl being a specific character until season 6.
If you’re watching it retroactively, knowing this information, you can absolutely tell that it was Eric. They placed hints throughout the show, like Eric mysteriously knowing private information about Lord Beaton, and being vague when asked how he discovered it. Another was Jonathan having Gossip Girl’s password at graduation, because he “hacked into it.”
I theorize that the writers thought that they could get away with making it Dan because narratively, it made sense, even though it was a mess plot wise. It was before the era of streaming services, so people had been watching it once a week for 5 years. You’re bound to forget a lot of information over that period of time, so I’m assuming that they thought that viewers would’ve just forgotten the minor details which make it impossible.
The reason we’re catching all of these details is because we binge it. We finish it within a relatively short period of time, and all of the details are still fresh in our minds.
The fact that is was "before the era of streaming services" is making me nostalgic af
This is worded perfectly
Makes a lot of sense tbh
I kind tha like that Dan was GG xd. It make sense in my mind
Man Eric should’ve as gg. It would also make his character more relevant
can we talk about how there was sooo much excitement and build up to Lily and Rufus' son only for him to never be mentioned again? one of the most anticlimactic storylines in the show (in my opinion).
exactly
yeeess. so infuriating
Yeeeeeees so true. AND, it's really hurt me, NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE "trivial" FACT THAT LILY AND RUFUS JUST LOST A CHILD. Dan is like "Haha this is great we can be together", he even said "What a story ! "You have a brother!" "Actually no" ! But all's well that ends well" or something like that.
Thanks god Lily and Rufus came back together because otherwise I don't know how they would have survived this drama (especially that... nobody cares). This is so sad.
exactly
RIGHT IT WAS SO GOOD AND IT JUST DISSAPEARED??? IDK WTH I WAS SO MAD THAT COULDVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER
People were so hard on both Jenny and Taylor Momsen. The media, viewers, and at times the writers couldn't see Taylor was NOT Jenny.
It was a major contributor to why she's so hated, she was only like 15 irl yall.
I just put on mandatory The Pretty Reckless after watching this lmao
@@bennyton2560 girl same. I hope you enjoyed their most recent album like I did
I think a lot of people were against her also because as she got older she felt she was kind of done with the show, which is fine. She wanted to do music instead but probably wasn't totally her choice to stay or not, she probably had agents telling her to continue riding the wave. We've all been there where we're at a job we don't really like and it shows, we don't exactly give it our all. I think she was just kind of stuck on it.
I didn't even know we're the same age. Even born the same month. She was a whole kid. People are dumb. 🙄😩
@@stephb7872 she asked the writers to write her off and they did. She really never wanted to do it in the first place, just some child star shit.
After watching the Pretty Little Liars episode, it's time to watch another long video about a show I never even touched!
Same!
Same here
I just saw snippets of it, when i searched for something to watch, but there was always someone arguing or a sex scene, so it wasn't very interesting
glad to hear I'm not the only one 😂
Omg me too
And that's the biggest issue with Dan as Gossip Girl- they wanted to do it, but also not. They made him Gossip Girl but they weren't willing to let him really be Gossip Girl, to transform his character into the kind of person that was so devoted to his life of lies, so psychopathic that he would ruin his own relationships and life just to keep up the ruse. They still wanted him to be the good guy and have the happy ending, but also the villain of the entire show.
This is why Dan ultimately becomes Joe Goldberg.
the settings and the characters were just so perfect, that it made even the most absurd plots realistic and relatable somehow.
The setting was EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING JUST LOOKED PRETTY!
It was basically pretty people, with pretty clothes, in pretty places
The amount of people who purposely visit sites in New York just because of this show is insane! Visually, the show was STUNNING 😍
The romance between Rufus and Ivy Dickens was so unnecessary and one the biggest wtf moments of the show hahaha
I swear!! I’ve never been more teeth-grindingly mad at any relationship in a show before that. 🙂
Totally!!! I never really liked Dan and blair eighter... Didnt seem real
How about Dan and Blair 🤮🤮
It was literally so uncomfortable to watch
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every single actor/actress in gossip girl gave this story life. PERIOD. blake lively, leighton meester, michelle trachtenberg, ed westwick, sebastian stan, ETC..this show would not have been nearly as successful without each and every actor they hired.
and that's why the woke remake is doom to fail
@@yatarookayama8329 it's HBO so how it is going to fail, and it's not a remake, it's a sequel
@@comedygod522 i don't see how is going to be a real sequel without any of the old cast . But yes i agree
@@yatarookayama8329 the ending of the OG literally set up a sequel, you can have the cast appear in future episodes but there are other kids who GG could focus on or spread rumors, the OG squad are rich ass adults now, let them live their lives
The prefect cast tbh
I think there's one huge problem that should be mentioned. Creators don't know how to show adult characters and adult world itself. Like it's pretty good with adults at the first season. But when the main characters grow from teenagers to adults creators simply don't know how to changes their personalities. And it feels like most of them literally stuck in the high school being not even a personalities anymore like it was at first season but a bunch of caricature high school tropes. In adult world. Isn't it an absurd?
meh an early 20s person isnt that far off from how they acted a few years earlier so that part is actually accurate lol
One thing that always made me cringe HARD was seeing parents like Rufus getting relationship advice by Vanessa, a literal 16 year old LMAOOOOOO. 😭
"TIK TOK just brings the cringe out of celebrities" SO TRUE SO FINE
if you dont believe this, KJ APA.
Save for Jack Black. The stuff he releases is hilarious...cringe, maybe. I think he's self-aware enough to know how to play to the platform.
I mean true tho
Jason derulo..
Would like but it’s at 666
Excuse me, Eleanor and Cyrus were incredible together.
idk why was she so mean all the time
LOL
Awww Cyrus best parent and best parent couple.
He was the best character in the series
cyrus and dorota and my fav characters; theyre so wholesome and cute 😭💖
Also Blairs step-dad gives me life, he's an absolute delight.
Yess I love cyrus(idk how to spell it)
At first I thought I wouldnt like him but he's one of the best side characters along with dorota
he creeps me out
He is huggable person.😭✨
Absolutely!!!
The thing about Dan and Blair is that the storyline of them was supposed to be initialized in season 1 but the writer’s strike at the time puts the production in a halt and they basically revamp the series focusing on what makes audience hook and that is surprisingly Chuck and Blair.
Serena’s dynamic with Dan was supposed to be stirred a bit by how Dan doesn’t trust her enough but somehow opens up to Blair easilly abour his own family (s1ep4). Which would also stirred up her friendship with Blair, where the tables turned. Plus if we look closely the writers have set up Dan and Blair to always have similar interests (cabbage patch kid was supposed to be a start) and the fact that they both are the academician of the bunch. Those were hints of Dan and Blair but it was changed and revised after the writer’s strike.
Auch, it hurt
This show was insane. I can’t get over the soundtrack, the outfits, the locations they shot at. I wonder what the budget was
My guess is that a lot of stuff was actually publicity so they made money out of it, like clothes and music.
There are two soundtracks and I have them both lol
like the houses views the areas omgg
A lot of outfits were sent to them from couture brands because of how popular the show was, but filming in New York on location is expensiveeeee
the network wanted to shoot the show in CA...glad the production team fought it to be in NY.
"Lily and Rufus were the only couple that made sense and they should have ended up together" - yes, thank you.
I think Dan and Blair also worked, if you completely ignore the last season and forget that Dan is GG
@@M_k-zi3tn it’s very unpopular opinion but Dan and Blair were literally the best couple on the show for the little time they had it was perfect until they ruined it and it went all downhill from there!
@@mustafazaynnabeel5442 I know right!! those 2 were perfect together
they had a lot of chemistry because the actual actors were married
@@cinnamonboy85Are you high or something? None of the co-stars are married, let alone being friends.
Honestly, the reason main why GG was so well loved was because the cast was AMAZING. Plot, writing, character, not super mind blowing. But the cast carried it soooo well, the cringed lines, the over-sexualised scenes, the dramatic blackmails, it all works because the cast MAKES it work
Was Daroda anyone else’s low key favorite character?😂😂 the only person who could pry any redeeming qualities out of Blaire.
Yes 😊 I loved the episodes where Darota was like a mother figure to Blair, it was so sweet, there’s nothing better than a guiding light in life 💝
Uhm. Who's Daroda? You mean Dorota? 😂
@@fagiolification11 Lol my bad 😅
Darota was literally the MVP of Gossip Girl
My favorite was Eric.
1) i think people hated jenny bc they loved blair so much and she was her "enemy"
2) i'm pretty sure chuck was only meant to be a small character, they didn't write ep1 chuck with the idea that would end up being such a big part of the show
3) they 100% should've kept eric as gossip girl, idk why writers hate it so much when people guess their own clues lmao
The first one is so true with delusional Blair fans
The actor who played Eric left the show for ABC’s Revenge. And he couldn’t wait to leave.
You are right in the second point as Chuck is so minor in the book series and he get shipped off to military school
1)? I am probably the only few that love Blair and Jenny at the same time. They are both complex and strong female characters of sorts.
Tbh I don’t like Jenny because of the way she treated her dad and started acting like a brat that’s the only reason
FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME ON JENNY. I never really disliked Jenny, I think she was just a misguided girl trying to get in. She did bad stuff but she always had remorse for it. She was flawed but she was never terrible.
I don't think anyone was genuinely terrible other than chuck
I agree, I feel very bad for her. I don't understand why people thought she was the villain.
In the books Jenny has her own spin-off book series that I absolutely loved. More than the Gossip Girl books. I really hoped they would make that show. Though with the originally big busted, curly haired outcast.
This. From what i vaguely remember, a lot of her actions that everyone thinks are the absolute worst are actually triggered by the other characters (mainly Blair, Chuck, Eleanor) being obviously shitty ans entitled. Whether it happens in the same episode or a few later, Jenny's actions say more about what the other characters do to a person than what Jenny actually wants for herself. All she wanted to do was make clothes. Thats it
I thought she was a great character! You don’t have to want to be friends with a fictional character to appreciate it when they’re well-written.
I JUST started re-watching gossip girl for the first time since it came out in 2007 and its outrageous the things that happen in every episode. I am only on season 2 but The amount of predatory behavior from chuck bass is out of control. I don't know why every girl was so obsessed with him growing up its really eye opening watching it again.
Because we didn’t know better and it’s a guilty pleasure? Reformed hot bad dude that’s trash to everyone but his true love? Basically watt pad fan fiction. Even me in my 20s who knows how toxic Chuck and his relationship with Blair was, still can’t help but root for them.
People do differentiate between real life and fiction, and Chuck is a compelling character. Also once we acknowledge a character's misbehavior as a trait clearly signaled in story, we kind of move on past it and look for other things in them - this is why we are able to enjoy shows like Dexter, why watching a redemption is more rewarding than watching someone good from the start, and why when a good person misbehave we judge them more harshly
He tries to rape two women in the first episode. I can't get past that. And it's not like he didn't behave abominably in the rest of the show. No, Blaire isn't innocent, but he did some reprehensible things when it came to her (no spoiler, I'll just say: hotel).
@Joey First of all for the sake of accuracy: these were sexual assaults, not rape attempts - not less bad, but people confusing these does irritate me. Second: I understand that you can't get past that, but I can since this is fiction, and it is used later in his character development (I am also capable of liking characters that are worse, like murderers) and as bad as he is, Blair is also terrible, she did terrible things not just to random people, but to those very close to her, including Chuck - I for example had real problem with getting over the toast thing - similar to the hotel thing and this happened before that, was utterly unprovoked, her objective there was not remotely as crucial to her as the hotel was for him and there were other ways to get it - she still did it and was only sorry that she got caught - she deserved dumping for this as much as he deserved it for the hotel thing. This is just an example, there were a lot of situation when Blair did something really bad and it was downplayed by her, the others and the general narration of the show. And while she did not sexually assault anyone, she displayed the same kind of entitlement towards people that causes this kind of behavior. Chuck at least showed some kind of remorse, I felt a deep dissatisfaction with the fact that she never really did.
@@arklul124 l'm sorry, but I don't think you're correct there. He was attempting to have penetrative sex with them without their consent. It doesn't matter if he didn't manage to get their clothes off, that is still attempted rape (as well as being sexual assault). I'm not trying to downplay the terrible things Blaire did; they were both horrendous, toxic people who were constantly trying to score points against each other and I find Blaire loathsome too, but the initial comment was about Chuck so I focussed on him. If I recall correctly, the backlash from the hotel plotline lost them a lot of shippers.
My wife and I watched this series from start to finish recently and I don’t think I have seen a show do character assassination to SO MANY CHARACTERS before, ever. Off the top of my head:
-Vanessa is one of the few characters like Nate who has a good head on their shoulders and tells the truth even if it hurts them overall to do so; a good friend to Dan, tries to make it work with the rest of the gang… until her character 180°’s on all of her morals in the Juliet plot to ruin Serena and then is promptly written off the show. Very very weird
- Jenny’s character is butchered by the writers to the point where they write her off as well. Also gonna throw Eric in here because they realized trying to balance a high school plot line for him and Jenny and then also balance the college plots for the Gossip Girl 5 was not something they were capable of doing.
- Lily becomes incredibly greedy and borderline evil toward Ivy after CeCe’s death and this leads to the end of her relationship with Rufus, which was one of the most stable and enjoyable parts of the show once they got together. I realize now that the reason they did this HAD to be because they wanted Dan and Serena to end up together and didn’t want their parents to also be together.
- Even Rufus gets assassinated when he falls into the arms of a woman his daughter’s age after having arguably the best integrity of any character on the show.
There are others but these are the ones that made me wonder wtf the writers were doing lol
+ Serena ist after season 1 unbelievable unreflective, hypocritical and selfish to a point it’s comical. The way she gets back to people who don’t worship her, cuts people off who try to explain stuff and at the same time her being totally unable to articulate what the hell is going on on her side is incredible. How she treated Ivy after the revelation and Lola after she gets jealous of her or sabotages blair like always shows that very good.
YES
and can we talk about this stupid «no, mom, you and Rufus can't be together because I'm dating Dan!!»? what's your problem? it is not incest at all, it just doesn't make sense
Vanessa is absolutely HORRENDOUS. She’s a horrific hypocrite and I agree with your pointsz
@@therealdasinathe Blair sabotage was a whole other level of evil.
Im glad you said Chuck DID assault S and J in the pilot. In a lot of videos analysing GG they say he TRIED TO which is an understatment. The way he forced himself on them and wouldn’t take a no is sexual assault
Nate should've been goosip girl. That's why he never post on it. That's why he took a backseat after season 1. He hates the upper east side. He hates Serena for choosing Dan. He hates Blair cause he forced him in a relationship that he didn't want. He hates Chuck because after he started chasing Blair he didn't give him enough attention as his friend. Yeah sometimes he destroyed his own life but guess what he wouldn't care. Edit, he hates Dan because he stole Serena from him duh:)
With some cleaning up this would’ve made sense
Except Nate is not that petty.
He's too busy chasing women to care about all that
@@zkxnkj534 he is that petty, he lost all the women he chased and he was the only main character that end up alone.
would make so much more sense
Dan ..... at first I dont agree with him as GG ...yet everything fits due to his personality. Nate is too good.
Man, Dorota as Gossip Girl would have been a great reveal. I can see her doing it in a twisted way as a parental figure who sees all these kids running around with no one caring what they get up to.
It would also give a message of "Don't underestimate the poor".
Well not really because Dakota has stated in many cases that she is loyal to Blair and that she loved blair too it just doesn't fit with her character especially since Blair was the one what the biggest hit from gossip girl
The fact that Blair said she thought it was Dorota was always funny to me because if she genuinely thought that and never tried to stop her then what was all that about???
I laugh every time I hear her name I think of Blair saying in the finale “I always thought it was Dorota” 😂
I actually like Dan and Blair relationship. For a long time I didn't know why but then it hit me. Dan and Blair at that moment where different characters for me. Two people that got a person in common and didn't like each other. They hate each other. Then with the time they become sort of best friends and end together. A plot twist that is outside of the expectations of the mc pairs. That is what I like. That at that point they where complete different characters in a other damn storyline or universe and I freaking love it.
I binged watched the show several years ago and I remember their relationship was one of the few things that stood out to me. After seeing them together you wonder why dan was ever with serena in the first place. It sucks that it was used as a device to get chuck and blair back together cause I think it could've shown so much development if blair and dan stayed together.
Forever bitter they were not endgame!
@@sabahkChair is a trash.
Yes, The Community Is similar.
I hated how basic the show became, couples that started were the ones that ended up together. Dan and Blair, Chuck and Eva, Serena and Nate were the way, without being predictable and making sense. Chuck hurt Blair a lot, he hit her, he traded her for a hotel, he broke her heart a thousand times, he didn't deserve her. Nate was made to sleep with half a series but it is known that he was always in love with Serena. Chuck and Eva had a nice and wholesome history. Nate and Serena loved each other in the past and never really stopped loving each other, even Serena had her heart divided into 2 parts. While Dan and Blair were literally the best couple, two different worlds kind of complement each other, one grounding the other. I am sorry that they followed the easy path and not the correct one.
And the CLOTHES ohmygod, they were a sexual fantasy in itself
ooof opposite for me. hellish fantasy more like. most of them are awful but late 2000s/early 2010s fashion was horrid tbh
@@empressjuly That scoop neck/neck tie combo at 38:13 had me convulsing in agony
the suits were good, the casual clothes ARE disguting
I'm sure it was all really expensive but the fashion gets progresibly worse as the show goes, maybe they were just accepting money from everyone to sell this ugly looks
@@empressjuly no shit
I didn't even realise we were supposed to be guessing who gossip girl was until my friend told me when I was in season 3
Same. I honestly don't think I really cared
+1
I am pretty sure Gossip Girl was never revealed in the books. It was obvious they shoe-horned Dan into that part. It made no sense from past actions.
Yeah I mean she says"..and who am I? That's a secret you'll never know.."
So i thought...okay we're never supposed to know.
@@BarbaraAnnB-yi5ew Actually, the writers planned it out during the last 2 seasons that Eric was gossip girl, but then that info got leaked to the news and to blogs, so they changed it up to be Dan. Terrible decision since it made no sense.
Not to mention Dorota was kinda loaned to most of the big families for their huge parties. She could of been everywhere and anywhere and just be like “oh I’m doing stuff for Blaire”
* Ms. Blair
Things that would’ve fixed the finale for me:
- No one should’ve been gossip girl. By season 6 it made 0 logistical sense that any of the main cast were GG, and it had already been established in the past that her power comes from people sending her tips. GG staying anonymous would’ve been the right call.
- Rufus and Lily should’ve ended up together. Let’s be honest, almost every conflict they ever had seemed so forced and shoehorned in either to make Lily the bad guy, or to make room for Dan and Serena. If you wanted a Derena endgame so bad, why even have the Rufus and Lily plot? Why take it so far? Why make it last so long?
- Serena should’ve ended up with Nate. I hate even pairing Nate with such a morally questionable character because he somehow happened to be the sweetest of the core characters, but they actually got along really well, had similar attitudes towards their lifestyle, both a little bit dumb, and I didn’t hate Serena when she was with him.
- Chuck should’ve ended up alone. I know the writers _really_ tried to redeem Chuck, but with every step forward, he took 3 steps back. His character was constantly being progressed and regressed spontaneously that I wasn’t comfortable with where he ended up in the series. I don’t buy that he wouldn’t resort to abusive tendencies in the future.
- Dan and Blair should’ve ended up together. This is a couple I _hated_ while watching the show the first time. I loathed them…but somehow they make all the sense in the world. By season 4 they get along great, they scheme together, but also make room for casual fun. I mean, when Dan wrote Louis’ vows, Blair said it was like he peered into her soul! I think their love was more mature than most on the show and above all, they made each other happy in a non-destructive way.
- Jenny deserved proper redemption. She was a kid when she did all her antics and then she just got exiled after being take advantage of by Chuck??? Icky.
This sounds perfect honestly! Everything I wanted and never got.
I’m re-watching this video for a second time and after reading this comment I genuinely had to look back and see if I made it because this is exactly how I feel about the show😭 this is the most perfect way to end the show and they missed the mark so completely
Yes omg you said it all👏
You know that guys like Chuck often end up being strict conservative fathers?)
re Dan & Blair: absolutely right. Lust and deceitful appreactation won over soul-mating, but it often happens in complex with stupidity and childish naivety. Except for Blair is anything but stupid
re Jenny: well, there's little authors could do about Jenny with her plea to pursue music career and drop off her role in series
Yeah - Taylor Momsen did the only reasonable thing - jump when the show was on a high.
She said she wanted to leave and got this story line - I mean why should she complain when you can leave with a bang?
The other actors probably wish in hindsight they did the same. I do still like the aesthetics of the show after S1 and you still care about the characters - but really it goes downhill fast.
I agree - Dan and Blair, Nate and Serena, Lily and Humphrey. Jenny having her own fashion line would have been great though 😍🙃
The rest of the cast did worst things in season 1 than Jenny did in the whole show. I feel like people don't like her because of her social standing. They did the same thing to dan in season 6. He started to play the game the way the rest of them did and he was painted as the villan.
Problem with Dan was that he was always judging people and then he became even worse than what he judged negatively. He judged Serena about everything and that is stupid because he first liked her for being the "it" girl.
@@nasiampadeka4606 yeah he was big hypocrite
Dan was always a hypocrite who believed himself to be better than them and was always open about it. In s6 he attacked everyone without any provocation, especially Serena.
For me it was the difference between being born into war and choosing it. I also think it was the actress, someone else prob could have carried it off better. Also, also, the way Jenny and Dan acted like they were on the breadline was irritating, sure they weren’t multimillionaires but they were doing rather well. A lot of ppl would have looked at their lives the same way they looked at Blaire and co’s lives.
@@kmhkennedy Yes, Jenny had a choice between the two worlds and chose the "dark one", so her behavior would only be justified if she fully owned the consequences of her action which she didn't, she kind of chose to play with fire and and then complained when she got hurt. And the actress' performance did not help, I think It kind of lacked charm? In this show it mattered because a lot of the characters had it, all of the main cast except for her managed to add something extra to their charact ers, even side characters like Lily, Georgina or Jack had sort of a charm to them.
I love how he knows how much everyone dislikes Vanessa so he doesnt even mention her hahahah
IKR🤣🤣
She was god awful BLEH but the actress was ok
i’m only on season 3 but whyyyy ?? she’s so likeable to me (plus i scrolled all this way for a vanessa comment lol)
@@zaikhan9215 It's not that she isn't likeable as a person. She just belonged on a different show. Vanessa served no purpose on Gossip Girl from the moment she showed up in Dan's window till she disappeared and nobody even noticed that she never returned. Her plotlines were secondary to the main characters for the most part and did nothing to advance the arc of the series. She was more like a set decoration than a character and it's a shame because she had some decent backstory and Jessica Szohr did a fantastic job with her. But the writers apparently saw no use for her and made her an annoying distraction to the overall series.
@@zaikhan9215 Actually I take one thing back. She did one thing that advanced one plotline but I won't say what it is because you're only on season 3 😁
I think making Gossip Girl no one would have been such a good ending, because it would have been this mysterious higher power having control over all these rich people who act like no one can touch them. Too many shows have been ruined because writers feel the need to outsmart the audience and it’s so annoying. PSA: if your audience can figure out the answer to a mystery you wrote, it’s ok! In fact it can sometimes be a sign of good writing. The reveal doesn’t always be shocking, sometimes it can have build up, be methodical and make sense
Literally this!!
Even though they bring up the mystery of who gossip girl is a few times throughout the series, it's hardly the focus of the show. Instead, the chacters see Gossip Girl as this omnipresent, all-powerful, inevitable force. She practically exists just to keep them in check, and punish their wrongdoings. The function of Gossip Girl is more similar to a deity than an actual person, and we see this in the way the characters view her. Just because people were apparently expecting a reveal to neatly finish the series doesn't mean there had to be one.
Illuminati
“Writers feel the need to outsmart the audience and it’s so annoying”. I instantly thought of Game of Thrones lol
@@akom3640 i instantly thought of Pretty Little Liars and the reveals that made 0 sense after Season 2. Literally that show got spoiled because the fans were smart and good at creating plausible storylines that Marlene felt the need to outdo the fan theories.
I recently rewatched the entire series and I wholeheartedly agree with you. By the end of season 3 you're just like "what the hell, there's still 3 seasons left?" Literally, nothing really interesting happens. Serena's plots are only about dating a million guys and that she is finally happy and finding herself, meanwhile, she NEVER finds herself and by the end of the show she's jobless, with no education, no place to live and humiliated by the chapter Dan publishes about her after they got back together.
As you said, Chuck and Blair lived in a loop and the writers wanted to keep their happy ending for the finale SO MUCH that they just kept inventing weird reasons for them not to be together. There's one plot in the middle of the series that I like that is when Blair just "accepts" that she is a horrible person that doesn't deserve love or happiness and then Chuck realizes what he's done to her self-esteem and decides to let her go. They should have kept them separated for the rest of the series to do some character growth after that but they just keep going back to each other.
I really wished GG went more into Blair's eating disorder. It was highlighted in one episode and briefly mentioned in a few others, then dropped all together. I think it was important to discuss it more for the sake of her character.
it showed so much more character for her and she was just dropped all together and only lives through her relatipnship with chuck
for what i know, this subject wasn't explored because the audience was too young, so it was all talked in a subtle way, but yeah i think it would be nice to talk about it in a more open way
@@luxt91 there was literal sex, booze, and alcohol. Alongside suicide, overdose, and MURDER… but an eating disorder is too much? Weird place to draw the line 😂😂
Agreed. It’s almost like it went away or she “grew out of it”, and kind of quickly. And that’s just not how bulimia works.
@@emilyfisher7060 ikr 💀
1) dorota or eric should’ve been gossip girl
2) serena should’ve ended up with nate
3) jenny isn’t that bad, it’s just that blair hates her and most of their audience worship blair.
4) chuck literally assaulted jenny? why didn’t people do more about it?
4) literally can we stop giving abusers and rapists redeeming arcs
Jenny in the character summary is ambitious but not... like.
Rating her in a villan scale.. she is prime time possibly superhero villain. Maybe even life time villan at lowest..
The others are monsters of their own design and by the design of others.
Didn’t Jenny slept with Chuck? To get even with Blair for something?
@@karlac798 Jenny slept with Chuck because she was vulnerable and immediately regretted it. I cannot remember if it was to get revenge but it was at the time Jenny was seeking guidance from Chuck when everyone else had turned their back on her because of Blair.
@@sovp8804 I also didn’t like the fact that Blair said that no one loved Jenny because we all know that’s not true and she went too far which pushed her to the edge.
100% the most likable thing about Serena was that it was Blake Lively. Blake is the only thing about Serena that made her bearable
@Ew dude maybe she's a personality actor? many actors are like that as well
@Ew dude ppl like her for HERSELF not her acting. Blake lively is an ICON not an iconic actress
@Ew dude not really
Lol i hated the character of Serena so much that it made me hate Blake Lively
Just finished rewatching Gossip Girl and crazy enough I personally think, Blair and Dan make sense especially considering in Dan’s book you can see how he also cares for Blair which makes me think his arc with her from enemy to friend to lover is earned as he also is selfless when it comes to choosing her happiness at the time over his own (besides season 6) but also Dan season 6 was such a walking middle finger that I really enjoyed it because Dan’s writing actually critiques the show and it’s so self aware, that the show seems a whole lot better through the scope of Dan’s writing. It really shows that even though you express the truth there is a way that it can still be considerate for others
Healthy perfect couple 🥰
what if dan is actually covering the real identity of gossip girl in exchange for money
I'll take that over the original ending
@@noonstyles3973 i'll take everything over the original ending.
I guess we’ll see in the reboot
@@ink9570 Let me know lol. I have no intention of watching that nostalgia simping rEbOoT. 😒
you just fixed the whole show!!
Chuck and Lily’s relationship is absolutely the best of the whole series
hands down yes
She liked him better than her own kids. Both endearing and weird
@@beautifullEternal that makes sense bc her kids took her for granted while you could see that chuck really cared about having a caring parental figure.
@@bushra2431 because lily was kinda a terrible mother to serena and eric
the only non-toxic development
I think the moral of your TH-cam videos (all together) is probably: before you make a show, have a plan. Then, even if the audience guesses that plan, go with it. Because otherwise you’ll fuck up so much of the plot and characters that it’ll ruin everything. Being predictable is better then being terrible.
Being predictable is okay, the writers need to get it through their head. If anything fans loveeeeee it
@@sovp8804 Being predictable to the fans if fine as long as the characters in the show are completely surprised. I am going to use an example from another show, but will keep it vague if you or anyone else haven't watched it.
Prime Video's Invincible did this perfectly. We, the audience, found out the twist in the first dang episode, but it took the rest of the characters closer to the end of Season One to find out who did it. The writers, instead of trying to get us to gasp at the plot twist, showed us what happens but makes the characters in the show the subject of the revelation.
We can look at how the culprit hides what he has done and how each character finds out, making it so much better than the cookie-cutter Disney twist villain trope. It is expected everyone will find out the secret in the end, but how they do so is the real treat!
@@auliamate I am definitely going to watch this show now, but I agree the execution of the characters is what makes watching any show that gives it away at the start all worth it. I will still say that GG was well carried for the first few seasons and the writing was all over the place but the actors all pulled through it and executed the performance.
I will say the Disney-related trope is in everything and nothing can ever be different and must be all cookie cutter so I hope this show will be out of the box or even more borderline realistic.
yea, like every 'who done it' crime drama has a planned plot, but for some reason not if you're a US teen drama.
honestly even just planning out the season and giving it one big arc to give the episodes a purpose is good enough. Instead what the gg writers did was shuffle through plotlines and end the season on a cliffhanger to set up the next season of shuffling through plotlines.
It’s the fact that every time you hear about gossip girl, it’s ALWAYS about Blair. Had I not gotten to know the show I would’ve thought she was the main character because people only ever talk about her.
And it’s painfully obvious how irrelevant Serena becomes in later seasons, especially when they’ll be entire episodes that don’t even focus on her.
Season 5 and 6 they made Serena such a loser
Please gossip girl was started because of Serena not Blair the twerp gossip girl literally exists because of Serena not because of Blair 🤣🤣
Writers messed up Chuck's character in season one when they made him force himself on Jenny, an underage girl. It's impossible to redeem a character after that. They should have kept him as womanizer, rich, spoilt kid. That way there would have been possibilities to redeem him.
100%. if they wanted a bad boy redemption for blair’s love interest they could have done so much with carter baizen and made him a main character. he has a similar ‘im chuck bass’ kind of energy and clearly knows how the upper east side works. but instead they just made him one of serena’s many irrelevant boyfriends
I so agree! Interestingly enough, The creators of Stranger Things actually intended to do this with Steve Harrington, selfish spoilt rich boy, who deliberately was supposed to rape his GF Nancy, but because the actors nature and charisma was too appealing they decided to write that out, in order to make him a redeemed, like-able character instead. Honestly Gossip Girl was promising at first but then brutally disappointing, I would have loved to see Chuck having the same character development as Steve Harrington, from becoming this selfish, annoying, rich boy into a redeemed and mature character, and still with human flaws. There was so much potential to dwell into his character, an they did not fulfill it :(((
I don’t think chuck character was a developmental, I think they made a whole new character after season 1, not just his character but storyline
Assaulting Jenny is the first scene we see Chuck in the books so they didn’t invent it out of thin air. Chuck is not so desperately redeemed in the books either, and is also bisexual, AND has a weird pet monkey 😂 I wish they’d made him more eclectic and weird on top of just being a rich asshole in the shows like he is in the books.
Besides the rape incident... he’s one of my favorite actually
100% agree that Lily and Rufus should have been endgame
@@stanggirl9803 Actually they did not. Rufus was married to some unknown woman with glasses and Lily was back together with Serena and Eric's dad.
@@ebilliot510 bruh they literally kissed un the last episode 😹
@@hadif.6477 It was a friendly kiss. The show confirmed it... saying that Lily married her Ex (Serena & Eric's father...the one who made her think she had cancer) and she and Rufus were friends again...that it was a friendly kiss. He sat down next to Lisa Loeb (who was a big singer at the time of the series first aired) to show that he was finally with someone who was like minded.
@@Starbits7 I am intrigued by wtf a friendly kiss is but its gossip girl so I'll just have their word for it
@Ks The show never cared about them being step siblings tbh, they were still trying to get back together and did when their parents were still married
I loved Nate in season one. As you said, his storyline was the most relatable and compelling. We first meet him when he’s on autopilot, and the moment his father is arrested, we see him taking agency of his own life: He doesn’t get back together with Blair, he takes initiative to prepare for the SATs so he can apply where he wants to go to college - showing he’s actually thinking about it, pursuing his own path, and I love that you pointed out he’s the only person who treats others as, well, people. He’s compassionate, thoughtful and flawed.
we love nate
I'm rewatching again. So I Stan Nate in the beginning. How he actually stopped Chuck from fighting. He didn't add or subtract from the drama. He just redirected Chuck to leave without degrading anyone.
He wanted to his family to be of integrity, trying to find who he is outside of his Mother's legacy and fathers spiraling identity
I just watched GG and I was expecting to hate Nate for cheating on Blair and ditching her on her birthday, but he was the only rich character I could stand
And yet the only one who didn't end up with any of the female main cast. Instead, they chose toxicity.
jenny's actress completely dropped acting after gossip girl and actually makes really good rock music in her band, The Pretty Reckless! she's an incredible singer now
"Vanessa Abrams - Aka obligatory neglected character of color" I AM SCREAMING it's so sad that we all know exactly what you're talking about
its the way she was the only poc character that was kinda the main lead role too like
And then they had Tika Sumpter (Reina) come on the show for a few episodes 💀
@Namu Situ
That is poc. ??? A poc is a mom white person. Even if she’s from hungry. )?)
I was so disappointed when Dan threw her out of his life. Than she disappeared. I had a huge crush on Vanessa. Her eyes !!!
So disappointed and sad too when Dan dismissed her for good like trash...hello a few episodes earlier he was SO in love with her blablabla... Vanessa is so villanized and deemed irrelevant when she actually made Dan what he ended up being, to some extent of course. Vanessa was a great down to earth secondary character... and was in the plot of so many episodes!!!! Why are people being so unfair to her ?? things got f-up for Vanessa with the sister-of-the-boarding-school-teacher-who-got-in-jail-because-of-lily drama.... appreciation post for Vanessa here 💓 💖 💗
Blair’s quips and oneliners were incredible “I can skip dinner now that I’m so full of humiliation” startled the loudest laugh out of me when I first watched
Blair is the most hilarious character on Gossip Girl.
"Well I can see my advice went the way of the clog."
James as Blair removes her pin from his sleeve: "Oh I didn't feel a thing."
Blair: "Hmm neither did I."
"I'm not a stop along the way. I'm a destination."
Chuck: "She stole my shoes???"
Blair coming down the stairs in her Diana Payne outfit: "Hello, dahling! YOU'RE adorable!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
BETTER ENDING: Dan Humphrey is covering the real identity of Gossip Girl: Nate, as said on the video, he didn't control his own life, he was betrayed and treated like a "thing" by his friends, family, and lovers. So yeah, it perfectly fits that he unleashes his anger and frustration on Gossip Girl website as a way to revenge and also unmask and expose the awful inside of rich people society. And also it would be a plot twist that his boring character (who someone said on the comments it could be replaced by a golden retriever), was actually an interesting one, with a deep and shady side that nobody noticed. But as they became friends, Nate actually reveals the true to Dan, and let him WRITE the story so he could sell books and become rich, so they share the money and Nate can finally break free from his family legacy and become independent but with a comfort wealthy life.
the way you're smarter than most people running shows right now
I am in the minority here, but, plot holes aside, I liked the IDEA of Dan as Gossip Girl. I think it fits with the whole point of the show being that even though you despise these people they are so alluring that you want to be a part of their world, and Dan wanted to write himself into it any way he could. But I must say that your idea with Nate and Dan is a lot more interesting!
Great story and I will continue to think that's how it ends, THANK YOU!
ooooh I love that
@@user-br6kk9oo7p yeah, it would work but there were so many plot holes, like Dan being surprised at his phone when he was exposed while being alone....makes no sense, the writers trying so hard to “shock” the audience smh
I mean I will say the worst thing Jenny did was just everything in that Serena’s teacher plotline. Like okay Serena was mean to you one time so you conspired with a crazy stalker to ruin her life, get her kicked out of college, and (unbeknownst to Jenny) roofied and framed for a drug overdose. That was really the moment I was done with Jenny and Vanessa. It was all too much for Serena who had been nothing but pretty nice to both of them.
What about being an ungrateful toxic brat towards her father, who, let's all remember, payed for her fancy school tuition just to see his daughter F it all up and nearly obtain legal emancipation only because she (a literal 15 year old) wants to WoRk In FaShIoN. Like girl, sit your ass down and finish the school you wanted to attend so much and then you can gtfo! 🙄
I agree I don't know what got into Vanessa at that moment, but it is also pretty realistic since their actions comes from a place of jealousy : they were both interested in a guy that only had eyes for Serena.
Irl women go after the other woman all the Time.
jenny started hating serena when she dated nate and she had a crush on him
Serena was never mean to Jenny. Jenny did that after Nate rejected her for Serena. Heck Serena was waaayyy nicer to Jenny than Blair ever was
I’ve always thought that the most important character in Gossip Girl, and the one that continually saved it and made it interesting, wasn’t any of the one’s played by actors... it was NYC. Specifically, it was the elite bubble of NYC. The real estate and fashion porn, specific to NYC, in the show is really what kept people hooked and coming back for more. It was the fantasy of it all, more so than the actual storyline, that made the show the cultural zeitgeist that it was. People didn’t want to be Serena, Blair or Chuck because they liked them as a person, they wanted to be them because they loved how and where they lived. The exact same show, with the exact same storyline’s and character’s, wouldn’t have worked anywhere else outside of wealthy New York. It at least wouldn’t have been nearly as successful or culturally defining. Imagine Serena or Blair in Houston or Cleveland and suddenly it doesn’t work and no one wants to be them any longer.
YESSSSSSSSSS
I guess that may be a reason why there are so many "copies" (or maybe spinoffs?) in other countries, because every country has their own New York of a city
@@daniellins4114 Yeah, to a certain extent. There’s really only three other cities outside of New York it could have possibly worked in while still retaining the spirit of the show, and they are Los Angeles, Paris and London. It could only really work in major global cultural capitals. They actually used LA and Paris as settings in the original show for that reason, cuz they’re two of the three other settings the show was possible in. It could probably work to a certain extent in places like Hong Kong and Melbourne and Toronto too, but not to the same degree and it would lose some of its “spirit” within those settings imo. NY, LA, Paris and London are the only places the show could have worked exactly as it did.
@@nevm7469 London is definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. Maybe possible, but ehh.. I dont see it. Paris is definitely possible, and los angeles too. But in LA it'd have a different tone, the lifestyle there is just too different. Chicago would just a be a dull and a little boring version of NY. In the east, I can see Tokyo and the #1 choice. Hong Kong, Seoul and Singapore could be possible too. (Melbourne wouldn't cut it, maybe just regionally). Dubai in the Middle East. A few places in Africa could cut it but wouldn't have any international/global appeal. Theyd be very local. Same with alot of places in Latin America aside from Mexico city or Buenos Aires.... alot of these just dont have the global appeal of NYC
@@nevm7469 London is definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. Maybe possible, but ehh.. I dont see it. Paris is definitely possible, and los angeles too. But in LA it'd have a different tone, the lifestyle there is just too different. Chicago would just a be a dull and a little boring version of NY, same with Toronto. In the east, I can see Tokyo and the #1 choice. Hong Kong, Seoul and Singapore could be possible too. (Melbourne wouldn't cut it, maybe just regionally). Dubai in the Middle East. A few places in Africa could cut it but wouldn't have any international/global appeal. Theyd be very local. Same with alot of places in Latin America aside from Mexico city or Buenos Aires.... alot of these just dont have the global appeal of NYC
The only thing that really really ever bothered me with the show was, how lily could end up with her ex husband that literally poisoned her to make her believe she had cancer.
Like. .. Wtf.
The ending was rushed and made no sense lol
That’s the ONLY thing!?
FUN FACT: Lily Collins was in the running for the role of Blair Waldorf
CORRECTION: She actually auditioned for Jenny and I also found out Jennifer Lawrence was up for Serena
ewww that would have been a disaster.
LOL that would have been terrible
And selena gomez for blair
@@mdr5685 omg noooo
Ew no
Honestly, I think that if the writers had planned Dan to be Gossip Girl then it could’ve been amazing. There’s several references to F. Scott Fitzgerald in the series and Dan writing himself into the world of the rich & famous to get the girl of his fantasies would’ve been such a Gatsby-esc move. I say this recognising that in this scenario both Gatsby and Dan are honestly out of their minds (and in my dream scenario Dan would never have ended up with Serena but rather everyone would’ve turned against him like they turned against Gatsby, but instead of dying Dan would just become a social outcast with loads of money but no friends). But for the ending to have worked the writers should’ve planned for this in advantage so that the show would not have had so many plotholes. The way I view it part of Dan’s personality change within the seasons would then partly have been about him becoming more and more psychotic the deeper he got into the Gossip Girl persona and partly from him dropping parts of his façade at times. But obviously this is not how it all worked out but I can see Dan being Gossip Girl as a technically great idea.
Yes but also in pretty little Liars Ezra fitz literally should have been A but Marlene king ruined it
Brilliant idea
michelle trachtenberg carried every scene she was in and never aged a day since 🤍 georgina my beloved
she had such a strong presence !
I freaking loved her
The only reason gossip girl was so good was because they had an amazing cast with great chemistry. All the characters had great potential.
I remember that the parents didn’t like the show, because there was a lot of alcohol, drugs and sex, but if you compare with the shows we watch today, we’ll, gossip girl is not that problematic 😂
we can say that it's thanks to GG that now It's so normal to have such shows but it surely was problematic by the standards we had back then when it was first aired
Gossip girl is still problematic just doesn’t have too much nudity
Haha, my mom hated it to the point of not letting me watch it. I watched it when I moved out and now watch things like Dark.
When i was a teenager i watched skins before watching gg.....it was vanilla as compared to that
If only they knew kids would be watching euphoria on hbo in 12 years😂
I agree about Jenny, she was great and her arc made complete sense. She was naive and kind but her character changed because of the people surrounding her and acted out because that’s what she was learning from the people around her. But the show always explained her motivations well.
I couldn’t agree more on the jenny part. she’s too over hated for being not as bad as the rest of the upper east siders. like other people on the show was worse than she ever was
@Sophia Squishmallow Serena is more annoying
@Sophia Squishmallow Blair & Serena isn’t any better.
@@GoogleUser-wz1il literally everyone idolizes them when they did literally the same shit as jenny did...
I can't hate Jenny she is actually my favourite character. Jenny is the product of her circumstances, also being a few years younger than everyone else in the end she is a minor being corrupted by adults.Everyone gives Jenny shit for what happened to Serena, but she didn't know that would happen to Serena, once again she went along with what people older than her were doing. Also lets not forget a similar thing happened to Jenny, she got drugged and abandoned in a bar for men to sexually assault her.
@@MarnieLuna COULDNT AGREE MORE
Is just me or did the show look more "cinematic" in season 1 only? It looked more and more soapy towards the end with them filming in sets most of the time.
From my understanding I think I heard they changed their production team from the beginning which could be a reason why and I also heard that was why there was so much heavy product placement in later seasons too but idk for sure
Agreed. I think the colouring is different too. Season one seemed paler to me? Like you could still see very vibrant colours, but the overall colours are less warm toned in season one than in later seasons. It reminds me a little of the difference between twilight and new moon. Season one looked real whereas later seasons look very Hollywood fake.
Hell yes
Oh my god dorota being gossip girl would have been amazing
Your diss track was fire
I don't think so, she was loyal to Blair and writing a lot of stuff about her private life or her secrets wouldn't be okay. Dorota is such a good character, good person, she's just too pure to write things the original GG wrote.
Too predictable
How would she know about "lonely boy" or anyone other than blairs friends?
That would have been amazing
Dan and blair together is really good.. they grow together and they talk about healthy things, things weve never seen any of them talking about.. theyre just being super friends and watching movies and having fun..
The real reason everyone hates Jenny is not because of what she does it’s because of who she does it to
Exactly, the other characters were mean to mean people, but Jenny was awful to people who were nice to her like her own dad :(
@@sofiaarmendariz7539 I've never seen Gossip Girl, so I don't know about this. I don't understand why was Jenny slut shamed when Chuck is a rapist and he was redeemed?!
Because Blair is the defenition of Girlboss turf feminism, she would rather blame Jenny than stand up to Chuck, forgetting that she and Chuck weren't dating at the time, she did the same thing with Nate and Serena, slut shamed Serena but never actually anything to Nate, he's not even blamed, Serena is forever labeled the girl who slept with her BFFs boyfriend and Jenny is the social climber who stole the Queens man but the men are blameless because Blair needs and craves their validation, she's even mad at Serena for sleeping with Dan when she and Dan broke up
@dflowers30 teenagers are mean to their parents that’s kind of a given. It’s painful to watch but not out of left field
I never made it through season1 so i cant say anything about gossip girl beyond it but part of the reason i stopped watching was because jenny became a dick. She went from a genuinely nice person who tries to feel included to a discount version of blair in about 5episodes or so
Jenny is one of my favourite characters in the series. She has a lot of depth and her actions are not so far fetched in my opinion. Your view of her story is very interesting. To me her storyline always showed how the world of money and power can corrupt even the sweetest person and she always felt just lost and desperate to find her place in the world she now is a part of. She is just a child that grows into a teenager who -as I bet we all did - has a hard time dealing with growing up
I can’t hear gossip girl without thinking of the go sip girl meme
go pis girl
🤣🤣🤣
I know right 😂
Sí girl
Also, I would have liked if the ending of the show was similar to the ending of the books. In the books, Blair breaks up with Chuck because she's not ready for a serious commitment, Serena breaks up with Dan because she wants to do things on her own, both girls reject Nate who is constantly trying to get with them and cheat on them, and we never get to know who Gossip Girl is because is not that important to the story.
By the way, one of the writers spoke up about how they were planning to make Nate be GG, because he was the only one who had never sent any tips and gossip for her and he was building the Spectator, which was basically an adult version of GG. He said that when he left the show they changed it to Dan.