Keep in mind we now have easy access to a legendary Strength bow (Eye of Khan) from the Khitan Merchants, which means Archers that used to be discarded for having high Strength but low Agility are actually pretty good now. The fact that Markos also has both high Strength, high Ranged Multiplier, *and* can be purchased with Obolus, makes him one of the best Archer Thralls in the game, if not the best just for the easy access. Also a quick mention to Serpent-man Arrows. Same attributes as Star Metal Arrows, but requires Demond Blood instead. Depending on your supply, it might be easier to craft.
Just checked the Merchants (single player), after the update, you can still trade blood crystals for coins and supplies, but tools, weapons and thralls no longer for sale. Golem guy still trading.
Don't count out Dina and Freya both have the same stats and built on strength bow and strength armor with Bessy's Bow, training Freya right now if she gets around 4000 HP I will drag her around with me and one other thrall.
I believe a few mentioned already in the comments here that if you want a thrall able to do decent with a bow, there are many strength bow since the beginning of the age of war, so there is no reason to restrict ourselves to agility. Another point I want to bring up is that any thrall can use a bow, they don't have to be archers. Finally, unless there is a specific PvP use case, for the new purge defence, the number of enemies grows a lot with the number of defenders (players and thralls), so I am not sure how much valuable they are for that purpose. Oh! and the attribute growth chance is semi-random, ie the same thrall can have different growth chance for each of their four attributes.
For thralls its different the str is used for melee and agi is used for any thrown or shot weapon so you can get a brute and focus all into str and it still wouldnt beat a brute focused in agi if using a bow also it might be a typo but fin of dagon has a 6.48 range multiplier
@@michaelhill2957 You can see at each weapon's description what attribute it uses. For example, Eye of Khan and Bessie's Bow bow use strength, even though they are bow (ranged), while Bec-de-Corbin uses agility, even though it is 2h-hammer (melee). These changes were introduced in the Age of War, Chapter One.
From @6:45 to @9:15 those two thralls are **exactly the same** stats-wise. Markos the Accursed (ID:Accursed_Archer_4_Cimmerian) can spawn only in the Isle of Siptah (any Accursed faction camp), while Markos, Bane of Beasts (ID: Forgotten_Tribe_Archer_4_Cimmerian) can spawn in Exiled Lands (any Forgotten Tribe faction camp, so mainly the north Mounds of the Dead) or as stated purchased as one of the four possible combatant thralls from the khitan merchant in Mek-kamoses' Spire (blood crystals for the oboli in the ophidian caches) as mentioned.
@@darkcat.gaming NP, apart for the points I made, the analysis was good from my biased PvE perspective in PvP servers that treat all hacks as the random generator to make the game a bit more challenging ;)
Great video archers are my bread and butter. You left out two very good archers. Amurath the swift at sinner refuge comes with ranged mod of 2.88 and higher base health than darfari at 605 but not easy to find. My best archer is 100% spawn at the den Du'naman dragoon he comes with RM of 2,16 base health 1092 and 30 points in agility. With exception of the votaries he is best archer in game better than darfari. Unappetizing fish cooked for agility growth and cooked grouper for agility buff +3 or +5
Yo Darkcat just wanted to mention that Markos The Accursed is the siptah only version of Markos Bane of Beasts you can either find Markos Bane of Beasts at Mounds of the Dead or Purchase. Just wanted to update you with that but great video appreciate the effort
@@rjbenchs5399Players used to be able to purchase Named Combatents(Dalinsia, Vapnir, Janos, Markos) Named Workers(Smelter, Tanner, Alchemist, Scoutweight Armorer) and a T4 Entertainer as worker althought he is a placeable slaves. Anyways all that were at mek kemoses spire where you learn the set religion which is north from the Sinkhole, east of the Southern Aquaduct. Im unsure if Funcom does add the merchants back they removed with Age of War Chapter 2.(I only heard about it might be worth checking yourself) You needed to trade blood crystal for magi caches which had obolus coins in them(obtainable for special rocknoses & golems around the map). Since i assume you didnt knew about it. There has been a dungeon & some traders for weapons, tools and supply materials. Darkcat should have a video about it im sure. I hope i could help you
Hey man i have a question, strength points will also effect ur agility weapons damage? , i use my bow on full agility build with 0 points on strength, is It bad?
I'm using Black Dragon Master Archer... is it a good archer? Anyways... Idk man... You are the best when it comes to detailed explanation... The amount of details in every video is insane. Keep up the good work 😃
1.92 from 2.88 is a 96% more multiplier (used at the end of the dmg calc) where agility points give a increase (additive value) , even if u had 100 agility on a markos its never gonna beat a defari archer with like 10 agility in terms of dmg. in terms of PvP if ur using dead angles for ur archers u need to one shot, meaning health is kinda irrelevant. i did hear a rumor that agility effects arrow accuracy? ive only tested this slightly and there was hardly any difference so im going to say agility doesnt affect accuracy
@@darkcat.gaming Ive ran alot of test on accuracy crurdah the crusher with 80 agility and a c brute with 0 agi over 10 runs on a arena champ, same distance same gear the difference in shots and misses was only 2.7% in favor of 80 agility, if it affects accuracy its tiny
I just did a test on the current AOW chapter 3 and the Relic Hunter Archer are still at 1.44 but what doesn't make any sense is that the Relic Hunter fighters are coming in at 1.54 ranged.
in pvp maybe i can have a few, but pve/pve-c against purge i havent cared about archers for years, i thrust more in foot soldiers on the ground@@darkcat.gaming
@@darkcat.gaming 1 more question, the archers u get in the purge have good damage modifier? I got legendary archers in the purge starting by 30 agility but dont know the modifier of them, thanks man
There is another funny stuff. You may put a crystal golem or even iron golem on the top of column, as by your method. Give him a bow with gas or acid arrows just important don't forget to load a bow with arrows or automaticly it will use a stone arrows. You may put alooot of arrows in its inventory and damn it it is an immortal touret 😂😂😂 Unfortunately Funcom don't want to fix a golems so you can use only one or need that they stay far from one to another or they start shooting each other.😂😂😂
look to me fun com mass up again . low lv npc got most atk wtf they do. u can try when r lv20 go volcano or udc and n knockout that npc 90% u get kill first.
@@darkcat.gaming I have them stationed around bottle necks so accuracy isn't a big issue. But last I checked they had a 2.88 ranged multiplier, I could be wrong, I haven't checked in a while but they deal good damage with Khan bow and star metal arrows.
@@darkcat.gaming it's not so bad when you have like 30 of them perched up around your base 🤣 nut you're right, I tested them against arena champion and they would land like 1 out of 10 shots 🤣🤣🤣 300 healing arrows and 100 exotic feasts gone in an instant 🤣🤣
im leader of grimm reapers and yh ive played the game since day one of beta , we are the old Eu alphas that have never been beaten. we left the game a while back bcoz of cheaters and thats why im annoyed at what youre doing. instead of putting all the exploits on here for ev1 to see and use against the lil guys how about you stop that shiii and start helpin the lil guys out. all you are doing is causing more n more ppl to use these exploits. if you were on officials how wud you like it if i came n wiped you by duping thousands of bombs????? i dont think youd like it tbf.@@darkcat.gaming
@@fakenews1528 even with 1000 bombs u cant wipe if u u cant beat me on pvp it's all about skills man dont worry all this bug videos helping developers out to find a faster way to fix them
Man, if you're going to make a video on something, actually convey something useful. And don't spread misinformation. The information for damage calculations isn't hard to do. If you don't know how to do it, learn. Only showing damage multipliers means absolutely nothing. Making assumptions for comparisons is fine, but you need to have *something* to compare. You have 10 thralls with a billboard behind them with a number that means absolutely nothing without context. It would have been easy to calculate out the damage. Pick an enemy. Pick a comparable strength and agility bow. Calculate the damage that thrall would do with that bow. You could do it by actual testing or even with a spreadsheet. But it would actually have some comparison. This is 20 minutes of fluff and 5 seconds of information.
Idk maybe I should explain easier or it's too much for beginners to understand maybe but for ppl who play conan and work with thralls they know what I mean and no need to test 15 thrall dmg and make a 2h video u know
Keep in mind we now have easy access to a legendary Strength bow (Eye of Khan) from the Khitan Merchants, which means Archers that used to be discarded for having high Strength but low Agility are actually pretty good now. The fact that Markos also has both high Strength, high Ranged Multiplier, *and* can be purchased with Obolus, makes him one of the best Archer Thralls in the game, if not the best just for the easy access. Also a quick mention to Serpent-man Arrows. Same attributes as Star Metal Arrows, but requires Demond Blood instead. Depending on your supply, it might be easier to craft.
Yes true I forgot a a out straight bows that's true
Just checked the Merchants (single player), after the update, you can still trade blood crystals for coins and supplies, but tools, weapons and thralls no longer for sale. Golem guy still trading.
@@kilopapa712 yes they gone for good
Don't count out Dina and Freya both have the same stats and built on strength bow and strength armor with Bessy's Bow, training Freya right now if she gets around 4000 HP I will drag her around with me and one other thrall.
@@destroyingangel9838 👍
I believe a few mentioned already in the comments here that if you want a thrall able to do decent with a bow, there are many strength bow since the beginning of the age of war, so there is no reason to restrict ourselves to agility. Another point I want to bring up is that any thrall can use a bow, they don't have to be archers. Finally, unless there is a specific PvP use case, for the new purge defence, the number of enemies grows a lot with the number of defenders (players and thralls), so I am not sure how much valuable they are for that purpose. Oh! and the attribute growth chance is semi-random, ie the same thrall can have different growth chance for each of their four attributes.
For thralls its different the str is used for melee and agi is used for any thrown or shot weapon so you can get a brute and focus all into str and it still wouldnt beat a brute focused in agi if using a bow also it might be a typo but fin of dagon has a 6.48 range multiplier
@@michaelhill2957 that (str for melee and agi for ranged) was the case more or less before the last update, things have changed a lot since then.
@@aresgalamatis7022 i havent seen anything saying its changed? Even after the new update ive seen alot of vids stating the same
@@michaelhill2957 You can see at each weapon's description what attribute it uses. For example, Eye of Khan and Bessie's Bow bow use strength, even though they are bow (ranged), while Bec-de-Corbin uses agility, even though it is 2h-hammer (melee). These changes were introduced in the Age of War, Chapter One.
From @6:45 to @9:15 those two thralls are **exactly the same** stats-wise. Markos the Accursed (ID:Accursed_Archer_4_Cimmerian) can spawn only in the Isle of Siptah (any Accursed faction camp), while Markos, Bane of Beasts (ID: Forgotten_Tribe_Archer_4_Cimmerian) can spawn in Exiled Lands (any Forgotten Tribe faction camp, so mainly the north Mounds of the Dead) or as stated purchased as one of the four possible combatant thralls from the khitan merchant in Mek-kamoses' Spire (blood crystals for the oboli in the ophidian caches) as mentioned.
Sty my bad I made a mistake since I dont play siptah at all thx for your info ❤🔥👍
@@darkcat.gaming NP, apart for the points I made, the analysis was good from my biased PvE perspective in PvP servers that treat all hacks as the random generator to make the game a bit more challenging ;)
Great video archers are my bread and butter. You left out two very good archers. Amurath the swift at sinner refuge comes with ranged mod of 2.88 and higher base health than darfari at 605 but not easy to find. My best archer is 100% spawn at the den Du'naman dragoon he comes with RM of 2,16 base health 1092 and 30 points in agility. With exception of the votaries he is best archer in game better than darfari. Unappetizing fish cooked for agility growth and cooked grouper for agility buff +3 or +5
Thx for info my man 👍❤
@@darkcat.gaming you are most welcome you legend
@@copious983 ❤❤❤
@@copious983 i found this guy in the purge, but i want more, where i can find him 100% chance?
you find him at the den above the Neebs door on big stone walkway, a few guys to fight and he at end of walkway@@hazexmax2174
Hello, Dark Cat! What about Du'neman the Dragon? A archer thrall with 100% respawn chance, in the Den?
If its 100% it's a good thrall to catch doesn't matter really how much stats he have it's free there to take so go for it
Beastlord dragoon
He have a 2.16 range multiplier and can get 4k hp with good perks. Not bad.
Yo Darkcat just wanted to mention that Markos The Accursed is the siptah only version of Markos Bane of Beasts you can either find Markos Bane of Beasts at Mounds of the Dead or Purchase. Just wanted to update you with that but great video appreciate the effort
Hey man thx a lot for your info yes many ppl told me this my bad that's a big mistake ❤👍
where can you purchase this thrall?
@@rjbenchs5399Players used to be able to purchase Named Combatents(Dalinsia, Vapnir, Janos, Markos)
Named Workers(Smelter, Tanner, Alchemist, Scoutweight Armorer) and a T4 Entertainer as worker althought he is a placeable slaves. Anyways all that were at mek kemoses spire where you learn the set religion which is north from the Sinkhole, east of the Southern Aquaduct. Im unsure if Funcom does add the merchants back they removed with Age of War Chapter 2.(I only heard about it might be worth checking yourself)
You needed to trade blood crystal for magi caches which had obolus coins in them(obtainable for special rocknoses & golems around the map). Since i assume you didnt knew about it. There has been a dungeon & some traders for weapons, tools and supply materials. Darkcat should have a video about it im sure. I hope i could help you
@@rjbenchs5399 the traders are gone u cant anymore
Dina can use throwing axes still or str bows like khans eye or bessie
Using throwing axes on thralls is banned on many server s
Leveling up thrall to maximize agility cook then use the little blue fish
Lvling with fish yes good but after for healing use the food I mention in video not fish
@@darkcat.gaming salted exquisite meat and cook grouper
Hey bro i went to the dungeon but dont find the recipe for the Khari bow, u sure is not a drop weapon?
Hey there is like 10% chance to get the khari weponary recipe keep killing the last boss until u get it
Hey man i have a question, strength points will also effect ur agility weapons damage? , i use my bow on full agility build with 0 points on strength, is It bad?
I believe I does more dmg yes
Thank you !
Your welcome my man ❤🔥
Thank you very much. I'll have to get hunting asap. :D
Yw man🔥❤
I'm using Black Dragon Master Archer... is it a good archer?
Anyways... Idk man... You are the best when it comes to detailed explanation... The amount of details in every video is insane. Keep up the good work 😃
Hey I appreciate your positive comment thx man ❤😊 I think I made an update on this subject and I choose the black dragon archer as the best thrall yep
My bro Dark cat always delivering on the good stuff
Thx my man I appreciate it 🔥❤👍
Also huntress bow at 31
1.92 from 2.88 is a 96% more multiplier (used at the end of the dmg calc) where agility points give a increase (additive value) , even if u had 100 agility on a markos its never gonna beat a defari archer with like 10 agility in terms of dmg. in terms of PvP if ur using dead angles for ur archers u need to one shot, meaning health is kinda irrelevant. i did hear a rumor that agility effects arrow accuracy? ive only tested this slightly and there was hardly any difference so im going to say agility doesnt affect accuracy
Yes dafari archers are op a d I also think more agility makes archer hit more
@@darkcat.gaming Ive ran alot of test on accuracy crurdah the crusher with 80 agility and a c brute with 0 agi over 10 runs on a arena champ, same distance same gear the difference in shots and misses was only 2.7% in favor of 80 agility, if it affects accuracy its tiny
@@BerialPhantom ok good to know 👍
What about cannibal brutes with strength bows?
Not gonna work since he dont have range damage multiplier so with bow they do a lot less damage than a mace for example
@@darkcat.gaming His range damage multiplier is 2.88, what do you mean he doesn't have it?
Thk u my bro for your help
Yourwelcome bro I do my best 😊❤
Stay Ulric the accursed the best one
I just did a test on the current AOW chapter 3 and the Relic Hunter Archer are still at 1.44 but what doesn't make any sense is that the Relic Hunter fighters are coming in at 1.54 ranged.
Lol really u sure? Maybe it's a small bug anyway I dont like to use relic hunters anymore
Is it false that cim berserkers have 2.08 multi? Also do cannibal brutes also have 2.88, they are darfari right?
Yes dafari and the cannibal brute have 3.22 multiplier so he can kill bereserker in 2 full combo
and why should i use archers instead of 70+ strenght Lians?
An archer with 10 agility can do more damage and hit more accurate than your lian
in pvp maybe i can have a few, but pve/pve-c against purge i havent cared about archers for years, i thrust more in foot soldiers on the ground@@darkcat.gaming
Hello, what about give the ranger armor to ur archers? Is that possible?
It is possible and that's a lot of agility the only problem is the armor is light and 400 armor for a thrall is not much compair to 2000 armor
Ok thank you
@@darkcat.gaming 1 more question, the archers u get in the purge have good damage modifier? I got legendary archers in the purge starting by 30 agility but dont know the modifier of them, thanks man
@@hazexmax2174 normally thr purge thralls are rare and good the only way to test it is to use them on farming or pvp and see the damage result
Wasn't fish for agility?
Yes it is
Dark cat u seen serpent arrows thy same as starmetal
Ye but a bit less damage so still better to use star metal
Anyone else cant buy anything with obulus anymore? The traders arent traders anymore for me idk why
Yes they are gone from the game after chapter 2 update. No more traders
There is another funny stuff. You may put a crystal golem or even iron golem on the top of column, as by your method. Give him a bow with gas or acid arrows just important don't forget to load a bow with arrows or automaticly it will use a stone arrows. You may put alooot of arrows in its inventory and damn it it is an immortal touret 😂😂😂
Unfortunately Funcom don't want to fix a golems so you can use only one or need that they stay far from one to another or they start shooting each other.😂😂😂
Lol 🤣
I didn't think you could buy thralls from the merchants at the spire
Yes but sadly they fixed it now u cant do it anymore
Thrall pots don’t even work atm…
i find Sorschut Eyegouger today and he have 429 hp
At lvl 0 yes but lvl him up to 20 and he will be around 3000 hp and very high damage
look to me fun com mass up again . low lv npc got most atk wtf they do. u can try when r lv20 go volcano or udc and n knockout that npc 90% u get kill first.
Yes this is not right they need to fix it
I found a player with a warrior with 30,000 health points, how is this possible?
Yes I have a video how to get arena champion as your slave but they fixed it so they cant do it anymore
Brutes, Thugra, and Ritualist are all better damage ratios and easy to get.
But they are not archers thats the problem yes I made video about best fighter thrall and I mention this for archer I also needed one
@@darkcat.gaming It's not the problem, thralls don't need to be archers to use bows.
@@darkcat.gaming They are better than archers in fighting and using bows.
lets see if u can find them ?
i will give u a lil hint , you can farm them in the undead city 😉
Relic hunters?
no not from the relic hunters.
@@darkcat.gaming
I just use cannibal brute for archers 😂
They are not really accurate and they have low ranged damage multiplier
@@darkcat.gaming I have them stationed around bottle necks so accuracy isn't a big issue. But last I checked they had a 2.88 ranged multiplier, I could be wrong, I haven't checked in a while but they deal good damage with Khan bow and star metal arrows.
@@gillateeen yes with str bow it's fine I think if they dont miss
@@darkcat.gaming it's not so bad when you have like 30 of them perched up around your base 🤣 nut you're right, I tested them against arena champion and they would land like 1 out of 10 shots 🤣🤣🤣 300 healing arrows and 100 exotic feasts gone in an instant 🤣🤣
@@gillateeen that's a rip 🤣
Finally bought conan for pc!. Its way different than console, I wished i could use my controller 😅
Oh congrats u can use controller on pc conan for sure
Poorge ❤
Love to see ppl making fun on my account 🤣
Bom demais sió :)
Oloco! 😂
English pls ☹
@@darkcat.gaming nothing special, he said "very good sir".
@@davisasantos6739 oh ok thx for translation ❤
Why look for an archer is a mystery to me...
Wait for new update u will see archers are a lot more valuable
@@darkcat.gaming if the fighters are nerfed, then maybe
@@darkcat.gaming a new update came out, but I didn’t see the value of archers.or did I not replace something...
@@vyhvyljil365 what u mean
@@darkcat.gaming I didn’t play on the test server, after your comment I thought maybe the fighters were nerfed, but no.
Agility Food: Cooked Grouper (Fish) or Salted Exquisite Meat
Thx for info 😊
Its that's blue fish for leveling the other ones he mentioned is buffs
Um nah I use Freya she's awesome
She is ok but not the best as the numbers shows
you cant buy anything from traders anymore. they are gone
Yes sadly didnt know they gonna remove the traders in new update sadly
there are arrows in game that you can farm very easy and they have the highest damage and pen in the game smh , are you new to the game lol
Yes u are pro I'm noob at game bro ☹
im leader of grimm reapers and yh ive played the game since day one of beta , we are the old Eu alphas that have never been beaten. we left the game a while back bcoz of cheaters and thats why im annoyed at what youre doing. instead of putting all the exploits on here for ev1 to see and use against the lil guys how about you stop that shiii and start helpin the lil guys out. all you are doing is causing more n more ppl to use these exploits. if you were on officials how wud you like it if i came n wiped you by duping thousands of bombs????? i dont think youd like it tbf.@@darkcat.gaming
@@fakenews1528 even with 1000 bombs u cant wipe if u u cant beat me on pvp it's all about skills man dont worry all this bug videos helping developers out to find a faster way to fix them
tell me your server ill come wipe you and stream it
@@darkcat.gaming
i bet youre a pve warrior eh lol
@@darkcat.gaming
pretty far streched conclusions from just dmg multiplier - instead i would expect some testings ....
Yes I give all the info u can test his damage bro on player I'm making videos on single player cant. Test damage on players
@@darkcat.gaming purges do not include players afaik and dmg multiplier is not "all the info"
Man, if you're going to make a video on something, actually convey something useful. And don't spread misinformation.
The information for damage calculations isn't hard to do. If you don't know how to do it, learn. Only showing damage multipliers means absolutely nothing.
Making assumptions for comparisons is fine, but you need to have *something* to compare. You have 10 thralls with a billboard behind them with a number that means absolutely nothing without context.
It would have been easy to calculate out the damage. Pick an enemy. Pick a comparable strength and agility bow. Calculate the damage that thrall would do with that bow. You could do it by actual testing or even with a spreadsheet. But it would actually have some comparison. This is 20 minutes of fluff and 5 seconds of information.
Idk maybe I should explain easier or it's too much for beginners to understand maybe but for ppl who play conan and work with thralls they know what I mean and no need to test 15 thrall dmg and make a 2h video u know