Audi B8 (A4, A5, A4 Allroad, S4, S5) Buyer's Guide - What You Need To Know Before Buying
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►In this video, Aaron Davis, our Audi Catalog Manager walks you through everything you should look out for when buying an Audi B8. While this video touches on the A5, S4, S5, Allroad, and Avant, the spotlight is on the B8 A4. Aaron covers everything from the history of the B8, to the engine variants, to brake options, and even goes for a pre-purchase test drive.
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I really want to thank and appreciate the hospitality of the FCP Euro crew during this shoot. It's super apperant that the truly are involved in the scene and respect all their clients! Thanks again for everything.
Anthony
Appreciate you making the trip here to let us shoot your car!
When I bought my B8 S4 the seller basically said to me "learn to love FCP Euro, they're gonna be your new best friend". You guys are awesome, has been my one-stop shop for parts AND know-how to DIY.
Haha thats great advice for a new owner. Thanks for the support!
Lifetime BMW driver here, been looking to buy a B8 wagon as a winter car. This video is INSANELY informative! Thanks so much!
Glad you found it informative! Thanks for watching!
The "B" series Audi has always been my favorite. From the beast of B5(S4) all the way to the B8.5. The one I didn't care for much was the B7.
Thank you for making this video for the people who need to know not only to inform themselves about a possible purchase, but as you mention, to help the current owners know/make better decisions about their repairs(Be it DIY, or specialty shops).
We're glad you found it helpful! Our goal was to try and shed some light on issues current owners may not already know about, along with educating people who may know nothing about the platform at the same time.
I've delivered there many times.. always strike up conversations with them as a vw n now an Audi a4 b9 owner.. great guys..
Awesome awesome awesome video. Every second of this was full of good info. You earned a sub 👍🏻
Thanks, Fish Man!! Really glad you liked the video and thank you for subscribing!
I have an A4 B8 (2011). Love that thing.
This was helpful I have a 2010 A4 and I think I got a good deal on it. I’m concerned about the timing chain and would rather get it replaced now vs later
hanzo lo , you are much better of addressing it before it becomes an actual problem. Especially if you got a good deal on the car, might as well capitalize on your savings and make it last! Incase you havent seen this video yet th-cam.com/video/-ncZ0Tt4AUY/w-d-xo.html
Do it as soon as you can unless you want the engine to grenade itself. I usually just recommend you to swap with CPMA because the CAEB engines, in general, were just designed poorly as the CPMA fixed all the issues.
timing chain ended up being fineI contacted the service department in which it was dealt with and they informed me that all maintenance was up to date and it was on the car fax. there was a gap in service history from when the auction went to the dealership. few months later rear mail seal burst and soaked my clutch :( but got it all taken care of and it drives like never before! long story short it cost exactly what it should have haha
For the A4 B8, oil consumption fix and tensioner/chain would be at the top of the list.
is that for a 2008 model ?
I'm considering a 2013 allroad premium plus. 82k miles. Was hesitant because of potential repair costs. I like to work on things myself.. This video makes me feel a bit better about the consideration. Thanks a bunch, preciate the vid!
I have a 2012 A4 with the 8 speed tiptronic transmission. To my knowledge only the s4 had the 7 speed dual clutch. Also the power figures on the 2.0t seem off, but that’s just my opinion.
I own a 2013 B8.5 3.0 tdi avant quattro with a 7 speed dual clutch called S-Tronic. I think only the Facelift A4s have the option for S-Tronic.
Interesting. In Finland the base trim is business trim. It has folding rear seats, LEDs/xenon's, front and rear parking sensors , Bluetooth, and heated seats standard. It does not have leather seats (cloth seats which are actually quite good), no sun roof, no automatic seat adjustments and no rear seat climate vents (that's silly). A bit different trim compared to that premium.
Thats definitely interesting comparison!
Great video guys. I plan on picking up an 09 a4 tomorrow. Looks like it's had quite a bit of work done already. Hoping I don't have to put new piston rings in it 🤞🏼
Fingers crossed!
Great video, very informative. I always like Audi but I am scare of Turbo engines. I love the 3.0 Superchaged V6 on S4 & A6's.
Glad you liked the video, Anibal! The supercharged cars are a ton of fun!
My 2014 one had water pump fail I haven't had any other fault, folding seats it's an option
So much wealth of info. I'll always listen to a man about a VAG product with an Audi/VW logo tatted on him! Thanks for an awesome video!
Glad you like the video, Andy! Aaron has definitely been around VAG for quite some time!
Glad he talked about the intermediate steering shaft issue at the end. Easy fix for that is spray it with penetrating oil and then lube with white lithium grease. You missed talking about wastegate rattle and turbo replacement though! Turbos get replaced at 80 to 100k miles on these cars due to the wastegate issue. Fcp euro for the win on lifetime warranty! :)
Some pen oil + grease is for sure an easy quick fix for that! Good call on the turbo replacement, just an excuse for a fresh upgrade right ;)
Really great information, and an honest review, as a tech have you ever come across any information as to why Audi runs there thermostats at 88C and results in actual car operation of 96-100C under normal city driving 94C on that highway (although the temp gauge shows a steady 90C between 88-108C).
After opening the top end of older Audis its clear that almost all rubber oring and gaskets have failed by hardening. Including the infamous timing chain tensioner failures which is really the plastic guides disintegrating. Are there any thermostat options like 75-80C? because these engines are literally cooking them selves.
Video Definitely helped a ton! Right now looking at b8.5 allroads or even avant a4.
I got a 2012 Audi A4 Avant & shit Ian disappointed at all, people really don’t admire wagons. I like them because they’re different. I’m the only one in my area with an Audi wagon actually 🤷🏽♂️.
Avants have a sweet spot in our hearts as well. A few are in our employee lot everyday! They can be some super sleek cars when done right.
One thing I wish I knew when I had purchased my b8 5 years ago, is that if you're buying a premium trim model, make sure it has folding seats as an option. Folding rear seats weren't standard on the lower trim
The only "questionable" content I saw with this video, were the hp ratings for the B8 Chassis.
We went back and forth with what to trust on this one as originally we were using what looked like higher more realistic numbers, but decided to go with the official Audi documents from the dealership system itself.
8 speed CVT is a new one on me.
You guys are the real deal!
Liked and subscribed!
I was in the market last summer for a B8 S4, really couldn’t get a good deal. Ended up purchasing the 2014 A4 2.0T B8.5.
Yes it’s less power than the S4 but jeez it looks like the B8 generation had several issues with their faulty engine design.
A4 is still a great purchase!
Best informative FYI I've seen! Thanks guys great job!
It's amazing that this content is free. Fantastic job, thanks!
What an awesome public service for Audi A4 B8 owners!
We try our best! Thanks for the support.
I have 2009 A4 Audi replaced all pistons at 92000 km in 2015 as it was burning 1.23 L of oil for 500 km, they did this for free, now in 2024 the oil consumption is to spec.
You miss the ultra rare 1 of 200 audi a4 b8 30 years of quattro edition in 2011. It comes with a rs4 interior and some other goodies. I am lucky enough to own one. 6 speed manual 2.0t that looks like an rs4
Straight to the point
Awesome video. A must see for the potential B8 buyers. I recommend not to buy an Audi at all. They break to often and they will eventually turn into a nightmare. My B8 was a real money pit.
Greetings from Germany
Thanks for watching, Albert!
Is there eny engine that you can reccomend or everyone ist schrot?
@@angelnikolov7479 2.0 tdi should be rather ok...the say. Gasoline engines have a big issue with oil consumption
Tdi here with 156.000 km sweet and diesel power
This is definitely the perfect video
Thank you, ALI. Glad you like the video!
I came for Avant, didn't get it. But good video.
Nice video. Would you do something similar for the TDI engines? Interested in the 3.0 TDI quattro.
Great video. Very comprehensive. Thanks!
Thanks, Basil! Glad you like the video!
Great content 😊 did i miss the info about the 1.8 tfsi?
Great video. Lots to absorb. Thanks.
This was a good informative video. Thanks
You're welcome! Glad you found it informative!
Those rotors on the black s4 are sick! Are those from an s5?
What a great video. Thanks guys!
Feel sorry for US buyers, in Europe we have higher octane and got the 211 and 225hp 2.0tfsi engine models. And if you got the Black Edition you got the 7speed DSG DL501 out of the S4.
Yeah us U.S. buyers rarely get the good stuff from Europe 😭
We appreciate the sympathy!
I was waiting for A5
I thought the B8s came with a ZF8, not a 7 speed automatic?
Fantastic video - are a lot of these issues improved upon or solved in the B8.5?
Glad you enjoyed the video! Some of the key things that did/didnt change from B8 to B8.5 are...Oil Consumption issues were addressed on B8.5 (they went with a tighter clearance on the cylinders, and upgraded to thicker rods my 2mm), but the waterpump and tstat still leak, and the control arms still get torn bushings. Most of the updates were based on the actual facelift/aesthetics of the car.
FCP Euro thanks for clarifying, disappointing they kept the plastic water pump in the 8.5. Thought that was just a serious design flaw that could be easily remedied with a higher quality part.
I’m from México and I have a 2013 A4 B8.5 and this video is great 👍🏼 all the things you said are true. The control arms are totally a piece of sh#%%* I would like to replace them for a better ones but in Mexico it’s pretty difficult to find a good quality in replacements parts.
I have a 2009 B8 Avant 2.0T quattro automatic and it is a 6-speed auto.
I noticed you didn’t mention transmission failure. Some forums have said that mechatronic failure on the B8 is common. I have 2009 1.8T A4 that suffered that and unfortunately we don’t have a local Audi dealership. What in your opinion is the best solution? Replacing the gearbox? Are gearboxes plug and play or requiring some coding?
My 09 a4 tip tronic is doing fine going into 100k miles
Shame you don't go over the diesels... ahhh the us market :( And considering 25 mpg to be easy on the gas .... #justusathings
I had One a4 b8 2.0 , too many problems for a so expensive car...now i have a honda civic 1.5 which has top reliability.....
Man this and that $5000 sensor fix issue makes me just want to go with a B8.5
The seats fold down in every trim of the B8, except the base model "premium".
I don't think you can completely fix the oil consumption on the 2008 model, so it's 1L per 1k km at least
also audi have some vibration going on because on quattro and that's normal too
Are the timing chain and Water pump still an issue in the 8.5?
your transmission info seems off as they have an 8 speed transmission automatic with gears not cvt on quattro model
he said CVT on FWD only.
Great review
Thanks! Glad you liked the video!
Why would you want the yellow top breather over the black, what is the difference?
Lovely cars bar the oil consumption issue Audi tried covering up
I had a B7 and loved the style and handling. BUT the reliability was poor. Several recalls. Several electrical issues. And turbo issues--my turbo gave up the ghost at 50K miles. Fun car, but cost of ownership for me was not acceptable.
They're great till they're not.
I have a 2012 Audi A4 Avant (the one you guys didn't show in the picture) and I did not hear you guys mention the 8 speed torque converter automatic variant for the Quattro(NOT the 8 speed CVT FWD). also the numbers from multiple tuning and wiki style sites don't correspond with your hp figures for the newer motors but it might be a regional thing?
Please specify you mention in the video only TFSI not TDI . If you mention audi A4 B8 , mention both TDI and TFSI . Not only one.
Where's the love for the diesels?
This vid was shot in the states. Unfortunately we never got the diesels for the B8 here
Here.DIESEL POWER
Very informative video. I am planning to buy b8.5. Any major issues i need to look for under 80k miles?
A user here for a b8/b8.5 avant caga code motor tdi s tronic. Plugs each 30.000km/60.000km oil 10-15.000km/. Dmf flywheel 130.000km / belt kit 120.000 +-. Fabricant recomended Castrol Long Life but I highly recomend Ravenol/RedLine/Extreme/Meguin or Amsoil Signature Series. Put some adtivie to the oil for example liqui moly molygen motor protect 250 ml or Mannol 9929. To the tank of diesel or gasoline i recomend too. Clean EGR and the Dpf if it has each 100.000 km. And if u want to know more im here. The car is incredibly good. Confortable and secure👌👍
@@YeiDCalle thanks a lot mate. Much appreciated.
@@arslanashraf9618 👌
I just had the carbon cleaning done and replace my injectors I have 2013 A4 manual
When I got the car back after a drive turn off car if I turn the car back on within 5min or so it struggles to turn on but eventually does
What can be causing this issue? I didn’t have it before only after the cleaning and new injectors
What would be the best car for a first car out of all of these?
Electric steering rack is great, until it fails completely at 68,000Km as mine did.
Looking into the v6 3.0tsfi btw
Why you didn't cover any diesel engines?
Excellent video. PLEASE PLEASE MAKE ONE ON VW CC VR6(VeryRare6) is what I have named me 2013 Fontana Red executive. And the 2.0T, had the 2011 black luxury also.
Hey guys what’s up, I’m looking forward to buy a A4 2015, the sport Quattro version with about 52000 km, I would be very thankful if you guys tell me how reliable is this car and what this I should be aware before a buy this car. (I’m not sure if is a B8 or B8.5) I’m from Mexico and this model was maid for Mexico. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
rly good Video! Im from Germany and drive a b8.5 3.0TDI. sadly u dont have one in ur video.
Can you tell me is it reliable this engine and is it still good option to buy in 2021 ?
@@angelnikolov7479 sry but i have to say that im not a technical guy! and i think my english is not that good to explain Details i may have heard about. Maybe u should go for a Facebook group. U can find many Drivers there wich share their knowledge.
Important for me was the Power and the quattro. And by now i have nothing bad to say about that. :)
Totaly different specs in Europe! More of an emphasis on diesel rather than petrol (gasoline)
Man dedicated his life for audi and VW. Even the founder doesn't
Milwaukee tools for the win!
So is there no such thing as a 8speed dsg ? I have a 2012 a4 s line Quattro
Do the Audi s5s have armatic suspension or adaptive suspension? I'm not sure if it's the same thing but I do know that airmatics suspension is unreliable correct?
Does everything in this video apply to the S5? You didn't mention the 4.2 engine
We have a video planned specifically for the 4.2 engine.
@@fcpeuro Oh super. When's that supposed to drop? I'm looking to get a B8 S5 here pretty soon
@@therealjoshtodd we are literally shooting the S4/S5 Buyers guide and supporting content next Monday! So be on the lookout. That being said a lot of the suspension stuff discussed in this video does carry over.
@@fcpeuro Ah. Well it'll drop just in time for me to find out all the stuff I need to know about the S5 I already bought. haha I'm buying it some day this week
@@fcpeuro Haven't seen you guys drop that video yet!
Does the 2.0t 225hp engine has oil consumption problem ?
Have you heard anything about turbo waste-gates going bad on these models? Dealer wants $3,800 to replace the turbo in a 2010 A4 B8 87,000 miles.
Its not a super common issue but it certainly is possible. However, a bad wastegate should not necessarily mean you need to replace the whole turbocharger.
why no diesels ?
not available in the US market. FCP Euro is a US based company.
Great video.
Thanks, Jonny!
@@fcpeuro I drive a B8.5 any other videos I should check out.
What about the cjcb are these issus also in that
Competing with a Golf? surely that competes with the smaller hatches?
In the UK it does.
My 2010 b8 premium has folding rear seats, heated front seats., 211 HP. You got a lot of things wrong. Not alll B8 premium are limited to not having these options.
There is a premium and premium plus model. You obviously have the plus, they did mention that model briefly
FCP Euro I purchased items from FCP Groton long ago. ever since, I have been a fan of the company.
Fast Forward to a few years ago when this video came out... Or even closer to well, today. I have to say/express my interest and LOVE for the way this allroad 1:21 looks.
Would I be able to get info on wheels, suspension, and tire setup shown here? If not through this platform, then can I contact you by email/phone call to see if I can get said info? Please? I honestly Love the way it sits....
Thanks and continue doing what you do best.. We all love your vids...
Unfortunately this car was volunteered from a customer in Rhode Island, so we're not clear on the details. Pretty sure he's running 19" wheels and is on bilstein suspension
@@fcpeuro Ahhh Okay.. Well at least you were professional, and kind enough to give me an honest answer.. Very much appreciated.
The a4 comes with an 8 speed tiptronic torque converter auto with Quattro so that was a lie👀
Jason please - at least for videos - learn how to hold a steering wheel
Actually
20:23 ute :)
hahaha yaaaa buddy! good catch!
I have a B8.5 2013 S5 Cabriolet for sale.
B8 3.2v6 owners WYA!!
Right here bud, love the 3.2 I just wish we had more aftermarket parts to up the performance lol
How can i pull more power from a4 b8.5 2.0 tdi it has a tune to 170 HP
Stage1
Does A4 B8 have a sport differential? Or its only in S4?
A4 will not have a sport differential, at least in the North American Market. Other markets it may have been an option.
Good video. Only thing id comment on is it may be prudent to comment on the 7 speed dual clutch that comes in some A4's in some other countries (i.e. australia), They have some fucking problems, ask me how id know.
8.5
Is the B8.5 a much better upgrade of the B8?
Good video but man driving with his wrist kind of lets you know the type of car guy he is. 😉
Oh man he messed up! Not all A4 B8 have stationary backseats 😔
Makes video on B8 but uses B8.5 as thumbnail lol
You mean 211hp