The saddest part about Sif, is that Sif is trying to protect YOU. She knows you’re there for Artorias’ abysswalker ring, and she tries to stop you from going into the abyss and succumbing to the same fate Artorias did.
It breaks my heart every time I do that battle! Sif is so adorable and I have heard that doing the DLC before facing Sif makes him/her reluctant to fight you so I have so far avoided doing the DLC first... too much pain the original way, let alone that...
No the saddest part is that it's a giant fluffy dog that starts whimpering and limping when it's low on health Souls-Borne bosses are supposed to be grotesque and make you feel like a million bucks when you take them down, not make you feel like you're kicking a puppy
For all the people wondering what work Hollie did on Dark Souls a quick look at her Linkedin profile says that she did PR work on it for Namco Bandai UK.
When it come to 'The Last of Us', I'm not as conflicted as some folks. I always spare the unarmed surgeons, but as for the other Fireflies, I think Joel's stance was understandable, even if it's open to debate. Sure, the Fireflies thought they had a chance at finding a treatment for the infection - but at the same time, they were willing to kill the *only* person confirmed to be immune. In a matter of hours, they convinced themselves that there was absolultely no way they could learn anything while Ellie was alive, and decided that the only course of action was to kill her, extract her brain, and just hope it might teach them something new. That's the problem with the Fireflies. Dogmatically idealistic, and so accustomed to being brash freedom fighters that their default mindset is "kill first, consider asking questions later, but only if there's time". Ellie would've consented to prolonged medical tests and observation while they tried various approaches to understanding her immunity. But no; time and patience mean nothing to the Fireflies, so if you can speed things along by murdering a child, then that's just what you do at the first opportunity.
And at the very least they should have asked her consent. She was very self sacrificial. Would prolly have said yes. And it would have allowed Joel and her time to say goodbye. Lying was the nail in their coffin.
There's also the fact it's suggested in some of the hospital collectables that Ellie wasn't the first immune person they'd tried to get a vaccination from. I think it was an audio log & it alludes to but doesn't confirm that there are & have been others like Ellie but it ended in failure.
@@ObsceneSociopath Yeah they were too dumb to try a different alternative when the way they choose was obviously a flops. Makes me wonder though, did the surgeons ever suggest an alternative
Nathan talking about The Last of Us, and not wanting to kill the Fireflies, then there's just Joel stood in the background staring at him like, "I had to. They were going to hurt Ellie." I don't know why but it amuses me.
NieR: Automata's colossus, Grun. When you play the second route, B, as 9S, you learn a little bit about the boss' backstory: Turns out, despite it being the size of Godzilla, and just as destructive, it has the mind of a child, and doesn't really understand what it's doing. To add to that, up to the point that you fight it, it spent centuries aimlessly wandering the bottom of the ocean, searching for the ones who had abandoned it, including its "mother", after it was discarded there.
@@SomewhatSlightlyBored especially in the first nier where you kill two shades named and based off Hansel and Gretel, a small shade and its robot protector (yeah you pretty much kill Hiro and Baymax from Big Hero 6), do I need to say anything about Shade Wendy at the Aerie
I don’t know of the official reasoning, but “Big Boss” refers (or used to refer) to the final boss of a game - like how there are mini bosses, and stage bosses. I think the descriptor just stuck as his “name.” The worst part about killing The Boss is how the game won’t continue on until you shoot her! Then it spends the next 10 minutes telling you why it’s sad! I tear up every time during that final salute!
for me it's Grigori in Dragon's Dogma especially if you do so on a second playthrough because then everything he say's makes so much more sense and you really get a grasp of the tragic situation he's in. He exists literally just for you to kill him as part of your test to replace "god" if you fail you're fated to replace him for the same purpose of testing the next arisen and that just feels weighty. Plus he's just a really cool character, The speech just before the last fight is a big bit of that.
dracotias actually your character becomes the new dragon from failing to defeat "god", if grigori kills you he actually stay alive until an arisen strong enough to defeat him appears
Oh my God, yes. When I started playing Dragon's Dogma, I never expected that the "villain" of the game would be such a compelling, and tragic character. His speech patterns, his overwhelming, menacing appearance, and intelligence all make him a fantastic antagonist and is one of the main reasons that Dragon's Dogma is one of my favorite games to this day.
He might not have been a boss but I couldn’t kill Paarthurnax in Skyrim. I refused to. His wisdom and ancient knowledge helped me on my quest and I couldn’t betray him.
For me; having to kill all the Aeons from Final Fantasy X. After defeating Sin; Yuna is not forced to kill all of her Aeons in a super long additional boss battle. If you spend any significant time in the game; you become attracted to your summons just as Yuna does, so having to kill each and everyone one at a time is painful. One of the hardest things I ever had to do in a video game
Well you don't really kill them, do you? You free them so they can rest in peace. (FYI you don't even need to summon the aeons; throw a Candle of Life item at Yu Yevon, it'll Doom him. Wait three turns and voila, you win.)
I can’t wait to play Shadow of the Colossus as well, everyone’s told me it’s an absolutely amazing game but I agree with Dave, I wonder if there’s a twist in the end of the game where you’re the bad guy
How could you forget killing Zeke in InFamous 2's Bad Karma ending. You don't get a choice, you HAVE to kill him if you choose the bad karma ending, which would be bad enough but they make it a very slow process, as if Cole is holding back almost all of his strength. That along with the fact that Zeke refuses to go down, making you have to shoot him 7 or 8 times, makes this a very heart breaking moment.
David remembering a part where you can catch 2 soldiers having basically the same argument you guys had about the boss and big boss at the base on mother base you'll often catch 2 soldiers having that same argument
Dave, Hollie, and Rob all had answers I brokenheartedly agree with. By the end of TLoU, I was in a state of shock and reacted on instinct regarding the Fireflies. No regrets on that one for me.
Dave, I’m a 35 year old Welsh man, and this is not a man crush. But you’re looking sharp with the trimmed beard and funky hair m8. You also look as if you’ve slimmed down and got rid of some Christmas calories too, fair play boyo. Looking good m8. I’m a straight bloke too so like I said, it’s no man crush. I just thought it deserves a mention.
doesn't not count as a boss... but having to shoot your own soldiers when the infection kicks in in Mother Base in Metal Gear Solid 5, it was really a really hard thing to do and digest for me... probably, a lot of people felt the same way... specially because every time you shoot one, you get a notification and then a commentary from Huey.... but you don't have a choice... to think the hardest part of the whole thing is when you enter that one room where everyone is saluting you before you pop everyone up...
I honstly didn’t care I just shot them I felt the story was falling apart at that point it’s either just before that or just after it were it becomes very obvious your playing an unfinished game
You technically don't kill her though you just weaken her enough that Mordacai can come in and save her, unfortunately Jack beats him to the punch and detonates the collar around her neck meaning he actually killed her and making you want him dead that much more despite the fact that he is pretty hilarious
I'd say Jecht from "Final Fantasy X." I know, he's Sin, but he's Tidus's father, Auron's friend, Yuna adores him, and everyone else sees him a hero. It was tough seeing the man before defeating the monster, especially after that speech he makes.
I've got to agree with Hollie killing Sif was about the hardest thing I've had to do in videogames he/she(no one at FromSoftware has ever come out and Confirmed the gender so please don't argue with me) tries to keep you away from the abyss at all costs and you have no choice but to take his/her life to continue on your quest. Sif's and Artorias' deaths are what kept me coming back to Dark Souls although if I'm completely honest I still haven't finished the second game because mechanically I just don't like it as much as the other Souls games. In Dark Souls 3 once the Abyss Watcher's are felled I am the last the only one to carry on Sif and Artorias' sworn duty to stop the spread of the abyss I'm not just a Watchdog of Farron I'm the last Abyss Watcher. The one good thing that came out of it was a good story woven from the lore of the game as well as my own personal experiences in the game's world.
Back in Puerto Rico we have an urban myth of a similar dog. Except that the master supposedly drowned while taking a swim and the dog kept on waiting atop of a rock until it supposedly turned into stone
Now this is a optional boss but at the end of Infamous 2 if you pick the evil ending and you have to kill Zeke and it's this super slow drawn out zap him let him shoot at you zap him repeatedly and it's just so slow and intense you can feel the betrayal Zeke must feel as you electrocute him to death as you go on your way to wipe out all of humanity.
Handsome Jack from Borderlands is one of the most iconic bad guys ever. It's the guy you actually love instead of hating him throughout the game. Such a shame he had to be killed! Same thing with Joker from Batman series, no further explanation is necessary. 😀
Nath and Dave weren’t totally wrong, because many times in MGS during cutscenes, the FOX-HOUND members refer to Liquid as “the boss,” such as “Just what I’d expect from the man with the same code as the boss”
Jakomi of the Rose he returns in dmc 5 if you slow down in the trailer where he grabs Nero’s arm you can see the 3 things i don’t know what they are called but you can see those and that’s what he has in dmc3
Oh my god, this video was great to begin with but the end where Dave and Nate made Rob question his knowledge of MGS1 gives this one legendary status. Don't let them fool you Rob. There is no mention of the Boss in MGS1. Also this list just made me realize again that no matter how great the suggestions for possible future playthrough series for the team might be, a Metal Gear Stupid 2 and 3 still would have to be the first choice.
One of the first bosses in Breath of Fire 3, you have to kill a monster that is terrorizing the town, you then discover it was only trying to feed it's dead offspring. Very sad moment
Vergil from Devil May Cry 3 (and to an extent, DMC1). I’ve always felt horrible about what happened to him. After defeating a certain jackass alongside him, the twins reunited and acting like real brothers instead of archenemies, that final fight is emotional napalm. It’s one of the best final boss fights ever, sure, but it grabs your heartstrings and pulls them like they’re the bells of Notre Dame. Then you have the cutscene where Dante tries to grab his brother, to stop him from falling into the abyss in a last-ditch effort despite Vergil’s own wishes, only to get sliced across the hand in a disciplinary swat. THEN, if you kill 100 demons during the credits, you get the secret cutscene. You get an exhausted, badly wounded Vergil charging off to challenge Mundus and you get that sickening sensation in the pit of your stomach because you just know what’s going to happen. Vergil gets defeated, brainwashed, and corrupted into the Nelo Angelo, which Dante has to fight and kill in the original DMC. In spite of everything, Dante still loved his big brother, and wanted to save him. And then he realizes that he’s unknowingly killed him, and what Mundus did to him. It’s a boss death that stretches over the course of two separate games, and the buildup is just as painful as the death itself because you can’t help wondering “what if.” What if Dante had grabbed Vergil and dragged him out of the Demon World. What if he had realized who the Nelo Angelo was. What if Vergil’s need for power and revenge hadn’t overwhelmed him. I absolutely love the DMC series, but the entire setup regarding Vergil’s death just destroys me.
I agree with Hollie it is rather sad killing these beasts that are going about their business. I thought Rob was going to lose it there when doubt creeped in. Hilarious. Love the vids. Love all of you. Cheers
Alaster from from "Viewtiful Joe 2" he gets defeated in the 1st game but he seemed more a formidable rival for Joe and Frenemy of sorts. However in the sequel Alaster gets done in by Joe's old man putting in a bizarre movie reel and corrupting our once joking douchey Alaster turning him full evil leaving Joe and Sylvia with the task of putting him down for good. The sad farewells after the battle was truly heartbreaking. Yea as an adult I can say the scene isnt a tear jerker but it tore me apart as a kid. R.I.P. Alaster the gathering of the Rainbow Oscars were for you my friend.
The 6 God Generals from Tales of the Abyss (well 5 since Dist the Reaper/Runny/Rose is arrested) I hate killing Arietta the Wild, she's my favourite God General (even writing this I'm tearing up from it) at lease she died with a smile on her face.
As with Hollie, I positively hated having to kill Sif. It is a truly tragic boss battle - only worsened with the DLC. Absolutely gutted me. I didn't know they'd based Sif on Hachikō, though - which only makes it worse.
When I found out they were gonna kill Ellie I literally said "not my daughter" aloud. I still agree with Joel and I don't regret it, I only wish he hadn't lied to her at the end.
the "cure" in last of us is a pipe dream at best with how they were presenting it in the game, the operation room was barely sanitized at best, then they only have one immune subject to extract the needed sample, and we've not even touched the logistical nightmare that would be the process of mass production and distribution of this "cure".
That DLC scene with Sif made it all the much worse because I play dark souls as the hard hitter. I didn't know about its limping until I got and played the DLC. Made that second fight all the more crushing.
I'd have to say mine is Virgil from devil may cry and devil may cry 3. I mean in devil may cry you just find out your brother is still alive but being forced to fight you and in the third one you find out he wasent as bad as what you truly would of thought.
Lisa Trevor from the first Resident Evil. Also the bakers from RE7. They were nice people...except for maybe Lucas but the others were nice people whose life was just ruined.
You shouldn't feel bad at the ending of The Last of Us. The fireflies were evil by accident. They were killing the people who were immune in a desperate futile attempt to transfer their immunity to themselves. Only the immune people like Ellie and her offspring have a chance to save humanity, and the fireflies are killing them all.
The Yahg in ME2 lair of the shadow broker. It was a really interesting character and a whole new species never even mentioned before. But I understand the necessity of it, and the battle was cool.
Don't worry Rob, there aren't any references to "the boss" in MGS1, I have just played it again for the tenth time thanks to the metal gear stupid series
True. Some of the Foxhound members refer to Liquid as "the boss", but they never use capital letters, and its clear they're only really referring to him as *their* boss. For example, when Ocelot says, "so you're the one that the boss keeps talking about." That's probably what made Nathan or Dave think they remembered a reference to The Boss instead.
FFXII - Vossler Azelas. I really felt sad for having to kill him, he was a traitor, sure, but I kind of understand his reasoning, to forcibly free Dalmasca you have to go to war, Empire big, Dalmasca small, obvious huge numbers of casualties with Dalmasca still recuperaging its numbers after being conquered.Kinda sad, he just wanted to get some autonomy and wait for better opportunity to strike against Empire, sparing many lifes that would be lost otherwise.
And y'all forgot about Pagan minn (if you killed him) He was a stand up chap, I loved him as a character and didn't want to hurt him. I'm so glad I didn't have to. "Every action has a consequence. You're king now, but I'm keeping the helicopter!" Possibly paraphrasing here, but that was a damn good ending.
Pedro Martinez I agreed with you on that one because at that time when you saw all of the fallen soldiers you definitely know that ravus was innocent an then you sudden have to fight him with his body half corrupted with his painful screech
JusT2LaZy Yeah it was sad enough when he died but at least you’d think he was resting peacefully but then after all the bullshit he was given in life he had to take on more bullshit even after death
Pedro Martinez he's a Daemon by the time you fight him, the only thing left of Ravus is the twisted form the Daemon takes so I don't think that really counts especially since someone else clearly killed him before the fight triggers
+The Lonewolfgamer There's still some of him/his personality left during the fight, if you listen to his dialogue he basically asks them to finish him off & curses at Ardyn.
When I fought Sif having just defeated Artorias and Magnus for the first time, it broke my heart seeing him limping at the final stages of the fight. It's a different fight when you know the backstory.
Yes, Hollie you face off against Sif in Darkroot Basin. Also you have to go there in order to gain Artorias' ring so that you can traverse the Abyss at the bottom of New Londo ruins. Yo FextraLife...hit me up!
Not a "boss"......more a mini-boss but I always feel bad for killing the Big Daddies in Bioshock. Especially when the Little Sister cries when they're dead. Lines like, " Wake up, Mr. B." tugs at my heartstrings every time.
Rob: Am I going mad? Me: I thought you were mad with most of the Friday features being what they are :D Love you all, and I hope Hollie and Dan have a good press trip. The rest of you get back to work :P
hollie used sif as an example from dark souls and while i totally agree, i think that there are a couple more bosses from dark souls that really didn't deserve That - namely, quelaag. amazing chest jokes aside, she's only where she is because she's trying to get humanity from the various undead warriors coming for the bell of awakening to cure her sister. that's it. so while sif is protecting his master's grave and trying to save you from the abyss by blocking the path, quelaag just wants her sister back. and every one of us who has finished dark souls just killed both of them because of some prophecy. monsters, the lot of us.
I'm a mess every time I get to the meadow in Snake Eater!! I was hoping Rob would choose that one! Though killing your own infected soldiers in MGSV is not easy either, and same goes for Liquid in MGS4 when you know it's actually also Ocelot 😭 I just love Ocelot too much!
Xion from Kingdom Hearts days would fit well here. With Vector to the Heavens playing in the background as you fight right in front of the place where the three friends bonded. And Xion shouting 'Stop holding back!'.
Star Duster agreed. The only other piece from the kingdom hearts that brings tears to my eyes, is the other promise (roxas’s theme) from the fight against roxas in the world that never was.
Hey could you do "8 questions about MGS that only Rob can answer" Like what left the Boss' body when she died? Did Adamska know she was his mom? Wheres Quiet during shadow moses? Wheres raiden during TPP?
The Ghost of the Ship captain in God of War 2. After kicking him down the throat of the hydra and kicking him down from the climb out of Hades, I felt bad that he, once again, got resurrected just for Kratos to kill him again. He is kind of like Agrajag from Hitchhiker's Guide.
Legit though, I'd love a "what would we name bosses" show. "No, no, Ganon is stupid. He's PigBoy!" Or in DynastyWarriors, we're not fighting Oda Nobunaga but "Dragon Fist Killer". Even in Monster Hunter (minor spoiler), it could be "Spikes McGee" instead of Nergigante. (end spoiler)
I thought they did reference "the Boss" in MGS1, but it's referring to Liquid Snake. Ocelot mentions you're maybe as good as the Boss, doesn't he? Idk I feel some of the villains called Liquid that.
PlayStation Access I was watching access granted yesterday and Nath and Dave were talking about the Tuesday checklist and I had to accept that I wouldnt see it until Wednesday. One day I will see a livestream.
The fear in robs eyes when he thought dave knew something about mgs that he didnt was priceless. Thank you for including that part!
Chris Kinninmont I literally died laughing I could just imagine him going home and replaying it
You can see it in hes eyes trying to remember all of metal gear 1s dialog if it was really true
The Boss isn't mentioned in Metal Gear Solid 1, she was scrubbed from the records after Big Boss killed her
"I didn't want to kill all of the surgeons, but once I'd popped one..." 😂 apparently killing innocent surgeons is like eating Pringles
Kaneki Needs A Hug mmmmmmm Pringles
it felt so satisfying
Kaneki Needs A Hug
If I give you a hug, you won't eat me, right...?
PC Port, I promise nothing!
The difference between 0 and 1 is far greater than the difference between 1 and 2
The saddest part about Sif, is that Sif is trying to protect YOU. She knows you’re there for Artorias’ abysswalker ring, and she tries to stop you from going into the abyss and succumbing to the same fate Artorias did.
It breaks my heart every time I do that battle! Sif is so adorable and I have heard that doing the DLC before facing Sif makes him/her reluctant to fight you so I have so far avoided doing the DLC first... too much pain the original way, let alone that...
No the saddest part is that it's a giant fluffy dog that starts whimpering and limping when it's low on health
Souls-Borne bosses are supposed to be grotesque and make you feel like a million bucks when you take them down, not make you feel like you're kicking a puppy
For all the people wondering what work Hollie did on Dark Souls a quick look at her Linkedin profile says that she did PR work on it for Namco Bandai UK.
That's awesome
When it come to 'The Last of Us', I'm not as conflicted as some folks. I always spare the unarmed surgeons, but as for the other Fireflies, I think Joel's stance was understandable, even if it's open to debate. Sure, the Fireflies thought they had a chance at finding a treatment for the infection - but at the same time, they were willing to kill the *only* person confirmed to be immune. In a matter of hours, they convinced themselves that there was absolultely no way they could learn anything while Ellie was alive, and decided that the only course of action was to kill her, extract her brain, and just hope it might teach them something new.
That's the problem with the Fireflies. Dogmatically idealistic, and so accustomed to being brash freedom fighters that their default mindset is "kill first, consider asking questions later, but only if there's time". Ellie would've consented to prolonged medical tests and observation while they tried various approaches to understanding her immunity. But no; time and patience mean nothing to the Fireflies, so if you can speed things along by murdering a child, then that's just what you do at the first opportunity.
And at the very least they should have asked her consent. She was very self sacrificial. Would prolly have said yes. And it would have allowed Joel and her time to say goodbye. Lying was the nail in their coffin.
There's also the fact it's suggested in some of the hospital collectables that Ellie wasn't the first immune person they'd tried to get a vaccination from. I think it was an audio log & it alludes to but doesn't confirm that there are & have been others like Ellie but it ended in failure.
@@ObsceneSociopath Yeah they were too dumb to try a different alternative when the way they choose was obviously a flops. Makes me wonder though, did the surgeons ever suggest an alternative
Nathan talking about The Last of Us, and not wanting to kill the Fireflies, then there's just Joel stood in the background staring at him like, "I had to. They were going to hurt Ellie." I don't know why but it amuses me.
Am I the only one who when Hollie started talking about Hachiko instantly remembered that Futurama episode?! (“Jurassic Bark”)
Nope - I was right there with you.
I didn't no, but now you made me, thank you T_T
Poor Seymour Asses…
Chris Carchrie Cool, so I wasn’t the only one 😁
EBD 87 goddamnit dont make us cry.
Not gonna lie, Dave's haircut brings him from a 7 to a solid 9.5. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
GenCavox more like metal gear solid 9.5! XD
NieR: Automata's colossus, Grun. When you play the second route, B, as 9S, you learn a little bit about the boss' backstory: Turns out, despite it being the size of Godzilla, and just as destructive, it has the mind of a child, and doesn't really understand what it's doing. To add to that, up to the point that you fight it, it spent centuries aimlessly wandering the bottom of the ocean, searching for the ones who had abandoned it, including its "mother", after it was discarded there.
Every boss in both Nier games could make this list.
@@SomewhatSlightlyBored definitely
@@SomewhatSlightlyBored especially in the first nier where you kill two shades named and based off Hansel and Gretel, a small shade and its robot protector (yeah you pretty much kill Hiro and Baymax from Big Hero 6), do I need to say anything about Shade Wendy at the Aerie
I don’t know of the official reasoning, but “Big Boss” refers (or used to refer) to the final boss of a game - like how there are mini bosses, and stage bosses. I think the descriptor just stuck as his “name.”
The worst part about killing The Boss is how the game won’t continue on until you shoot her! Then it spends the next 10 minutes telling you why it’s sad! I tear up every time during that final salute!
One boss that comes to mind is xion. That ending of the game was so depressing but her death was th3 final nail in the coffin.
NAcHO1713 I would've picked this as well. 😢
Toss up between her and akechi from persona 5, curse you jrpgs you toy with my emotions so!
Xion! Who else will I have ice cream with?!
And to think she shouldn't ever appear in the series again 😢
Who's that?
for me it's Grigori in Dragon's Dogma especially if you do so on a second playthrough because then everything he say's makes so much more sense and you really get a grasp of the tragic situation he's in. He exists literally just for you to kill him as part of your test to replace "god" if you fail you're fated to replace him for the same purpose of testing the next arisen and that just feels weighty. Plus he's just a really cool character, The speech just before the last fight is a big bit of that.
dracotias Grigori is by far one of my all time favourite "bad guys" in gaming : )
dracotias actually your character becomes the new dragon from failing to defeat "god", if grigori kills you he actually stay alive until an arisen strong enough to defeat him appears
Holy Hell, I almost never see people who also likes Grigori from Dragon's Dogma. And further more, he's just an Arisen. Like the one before him.
Oh my God, yes. When I started playing Dragon's Dogma, I never expected that the "villain" of the game would be such a compelling, and tragic character. His speech patterns, his overwhelming, menacing appearance, and intelligence all make him a fantastic antagonist and is one of the main reasons that Dragon's Dogma is one of my favorite games to this day.
He might not have been a boss but I couldn’t kill Paarthurnax in Skyrim. I refused to. His wisdom and ancient knowledge helped me on my quest and I couldn’t betray him.
did we have a choice? I can't remember.
+Samur/Aye we had a choice
You had a choice but in the base game without mods you could not continue the blades questline. Which i was fine with.
All the blades did for you is hamper your progress in trying to solve the problem
Yeah the blades were just dogmatic douchebags anyway. It wasn't difficult to choose Paarthurnax over them.
For me; having to kill all the Aeons from Final Fantasy X. After defeating Sin; Yuna is not forced to kill all of her Aeons in a super long additional boss battle. If you spend any significant time in the game; you become attracted to your summons just as Yuna does, so having to kill each and everyone one at a time is painful. One of the hardest things I ever had to do in a video game
The Rat's Cast and you get those little goodbye messages from the aeons and it just hurts so much more.
Cathie Leyy Oh God, I know! Worst boss battle EVER!
Well you don't really kill them, do you? You free them so they can rest in peace.
(FYI you don't even need to summon the aeons; throw a Candle of Life item at Yu Yevon, it'll Doom him. Wait three turns and voila, you win.)
NotQuiteEnglish but the whole point was one your Aeons takes the place of the fallen Aeon who is now Sin. That's why they must be killed
That broke my heart, god damn it.
I can’t wait to play Shadow of the Colossus as well, everyone’s told me it’s an absolutely amazing game but I agree with Dave, I wonder if there’s a twist in the end of the game where you’re the bad guy
Jared Moore,
Yep. Worth every penny. So much so, I purchase every incarnation.
Xylo 28 if you play it on ps4 first then you've never had the full experience sooooo yeah.
"That was on uh...before playstation ever came out!" Nice save Rob lol
How could you forget killing Zeke in InFamous 2's Bad Karma ending. You don't get a choice, you HAVE to kill him if you choose the bad karma ending, which would be bad enough but they make it a very slow process, as if Cole is holding back almost all of his strength. That along with the fact that Zeke refuses to go down, making you have to shoot him 7 or 8 times, makes this a very heart breaking moment.
David remembering a part where you can catch 2 soldiers having basically the same argument you guys had about the boss and big boss at the base on mother base you'll often catch 2 soldiers having that same argument
Jetstream Sam from "Metal Gear Rising"...
In the DLC you find out he was actually an undercover agent with the same goals as you.
Dave, Hollie, and Rob all had answers I brokenheartedly agree with. By the end of TLoU, I was in a state of shock and reacted on instinct regarding the Fireflies. No regrets on that one for me.
Dave, I’m a 35 year old Welsh man, and this is not a man crush. But you’re looking sharp with the trimmed beard and funky hair m8. You also look as if you’ve slimmed down and got rid of some Christmas calories too, fair play boyo. Looking good m8. I’m a straight bloke too so like I said, it’s no man crush. I just thought it deserves a mention.
Stanetti Els I like that you had to specify that you are in fact Welsh
I LOVE the look of confusion on Rob's face when Dave says he thinks he read references to The Boss on MGS1, just priceless
"Once I popped one, I felt I had to pop everyone" 😂
yeah otherwise it's favouritism
doesn't not count as a boss... but having to shoot your own soldiers when the infection kicks in in Mother Base in Metal Gear Solid 5, it was really a really hard thing to do and digest for me... probably, a lot of people felt the same way... specially because every time you shoot one, you get a notification and then a commentary from Huey.... but you don't have a choice... to think the hardest part of the whole thing is when you enter that one room where everyone is saluting you before you pop everyone up...
I resorted to drinking to get over that scene. The despair you feel. Man. Theres no words.
The salutes really got me. The notifications did too but the salutes
I had blocked this from my memory without realizing. That was one of the most horrific moments in gaming for me.
I honstly didn’t care I just shot them I felt the story was falling apart at that point it’s either just before that or just after it were it becomes very obvious your playing an unfinished game
dxgt17 oh dear I haven't reached that part 😣😆
My answer would be Bloodwing in Borderlands 2.
You technically don't kill her though you just weaken her enough that Mordacai can come in and save her, unfortunately Jack beats him to the punch and detonates the collar around her neck meaning he actually killed her and making you want him dead that much more despite the fact that he is pretty hilarious
Personally I think the worst part about that moment was how long it took Blake to find a damn violin
Laurence Barnes haha he should be one of the next Vault Hunters.
my choice would be a different boss.......General Knoxx from the Borderlands 1 DLC
I'd say Jecht from "Final Fantasy X." I know, he's Sin, but he's Tidus's father, Auron's friend, Yuna adores him, and everyone else sees him a hero. It was tough seeing the man before defeating the monster, especially after that speech he makes.
I've got to agree with Hollie killing Sif was about the hardest thing I've had to do in videogames he/she(no one at FromSoftware has ever come out and Confirmed the gender so please don't argue with me) tries to keep you away from the abyss at all costs and you have no choice but to take his/her life to continue on your quest. Sif's and Artorias' deaths are what kept me coming back to Dark Souls although if I'm completely honest I still haven't finished the second game because mechanically I just don't like it as much as the other Souls games. In Dark Souls 3 once the Abyss Watcher's are felled I am the last the only one to carry on Sif and Artorias' sworn duty to stop the spread of the abyss I'm not just a Watchdog of Farron I'm the last Abyss Watcher. The one good thing that came out of it was a good story woven from the lore of the game as well as my own personal experiences in the game's world.
Back in Puerto Rico we have an urban myth of a similar dog. Except that the master supposedly drowned while taking a swim and the dog kept on waiting atop of a rock until it supposedly turned into stone
Now this is a optional boss but at the end of Infamous 2 if you pick the evil ending and you have to kill Zeke and it's this super slow drawn out zap him let him shoot at you zap him repeatedly and it's just so slow and intense you can feel the betrayal Zeke must feel as you electrocute him to death as you go on your way to wipe out all of humanity.
Handsome Jack from Borderlands is one of the most iconic bad guys ever. It's the guy you actually love instead of hating him throughout the game. Such a shame he had to be killed! Same thing with Joker from Batman series, no further explanation is necessary. 😀
He's not that iconic.
Nath and Dave weren’t totally wrong, because many times in MGS during cutscenes, the FOX-HOUND members refer to Liquid as “the boss,” such as “Just what I’d expect from the man with the same code as the boss”
Nelo Angelo/Vergil from Devil May Cry.
Jakomi of the Rose he returns in dmc 5 if you slow down in the trailer where he grabs Nero’s arm you can see the 3 things i don’t know what they are called but you can see those and that’s what he has in dmc3
Was just about to write this :D
*“I’d have done it.”*
Well yeah, cause it’s you Rob. The same man who created a Taxi Russian Roulette in GTA.
Oh my god, this video was great to begin with but the end where Dave and Nate made Rob question his knowledge of MGS1 gives this one legendary status. Don't let them fool you Rob. There is no mention of the Boss in MGS1.
Also this list just made me realize again that no matter how great the suggestions for possible future playthrough series for the team might be, a Metal Gear Stupid 2 and 3 still would have to be the first choice.
One of the first bosses in Breath of Fire 3, you have to kill a monster that is terrorizing the town, you then discover it was only trying to feed it's dead offspring. Very sad moment
Great video! Another weekly Friday should be "Games we wanted to be good, but simply aren't". Loved to see that! :)
Vergil from Devil May Cry 3 (and to an extent, DMC1). I’ve always felt horrible about what happened to him. After defeating a certain jackass alongside him, the twins reunited and acting like real brothers instead of archenemies, that final fight is emotional napalm. It’s one of the best final boss fights ever, sure, but it grabs your heartstrings and pulls them like they’re the bells of Notre Dame. Then you have the cutscene where Dante tries to grab his brother, to stop him from falling into the abyss in a last-ditch effort despite Vergil’s own wishes, only to get sliced across the hand in a disciplinary swat. THEN, if you kill 100 demons during the credits, you get the secret cutscene. You get an exhausted, badly wounded Vergil charging off to challenge Mundus and you get that sickening sensation in the pit of your stomach because you just know what’s going to happen. Vergil gets defeated, brainwashed, and corrupted into the Nelo Angelo, which Dante has to fight and kill in the original DMC. In spite of everything, Dante still loved his big brother, and wanted to save him. And then he realizes that he’s unknowingly killed him, and what Mundus did to him. It’s a boss death that stretches over the course of two separate games, and the buildup is just as painful as the death itself because you can’t help wondering “what if.” What if Dante had grabbed Vergil and dragged him out of the Demon World. What if he had realized who the Nelo Angelo was. What if Vergil’s need for power and revenge hadn’t overwhelmed him. I absolutely love the DMC series, but the entire setup regarding Vergil’s death just destroys me.
Even worse to me is that Sif is trying to protect you from the Abyss. She's trying to save you from yourself, and you kill her for it
I agree with Hollie it is rather sad killing these beasts that are going about their business. I thought Rob was going to lose it there when doubt creeped in.
Hilarious. Love the vids. Love all of you. Cheers
Alaster from from "Viewtiful Joe 2" he gets defeated in the 1st game but he seemed more a formidable rival for Joe and Frenemy of sorts. However in the sequel Alaster gets done in by Joe's old man putting in a bizarre movie reel and corrupting our once joking douchey Alaster turning him full evil leaving Joe and Sylvia with the task of putting him down for good. The sad farewells after the battle was truly heartbreaking. Yea as an adult I can say the scene isnt a tear jerker but it tore me apart as a kid. R.I.P. Alaster the gathering of the Rainbow Oscars were for you my friend.
I love how genuine you all come across. Excellent video. Sometimes it's nice to see how the sausage is made... haha
The look on Rob's face when he thought he may be wrong about MGS1 was priceless 😂😂😂
Oh man, when they showed the footage for Rob's entry I instantly started to tear up.
Didn't know Hollie worlked on Dark Souls?!
Rob N She did localisation and PR for the English Version.
@@MrSpawley awesome
Anyone else wait like a whole hour on the mentioned MGS Boss cutscene to only realize you had to pull the trigger yourself?
Ghostbl33d im not sure if there are any differences in the games but i couldnt wait long. After a Short period of time Snake shot by himself.
But snake just shot her by himself if you waited too long
Sigit Sutasman
Ok i meant like an hour, because i wasn't really keeping track how long i waited. I changed it, satisfied?
Ghostbl33d dude its like literally about 1 or 2 minutes....
99Lezard99
Well it felt like an hour to me 😭
The 6 God Generals from Tales of the Abyss (well 5 since Dist the Reaper/Runny/Rose is arrested)
I hate killing Arietta the Wild, she's my favourite God General (even writing this I'm tearing up from it) at lease she died with a smile on her face.
Gary Fist? lol Sounds like an actor in films of ill repute :)
As with Hollie, I positively hated having to kill Sif. It is a truly tragic boss battle - only worsened with the DLC. Absolutely gutted me. I didn't know they'd based Sif on Hachikō, though - which only makes it worse.
When I found out they were gonna kill Ellie I literally said "not my daughter" aloud. I still agree with Joel and I don't regret it, I only wish he hadn't lied to her at the end.
the "cure" in last of us is a pipe dream at best with how they were presenting it in the game, the operation room was barely sanitized at best, then they only have one immune subject to extract the needed sample, and we've not even touched the logistical nightmare that would be the process of mass production and distribution of this "cure".
That DLC scene with Sif made it all the much worse because I play dark souls as the hard hitter. I didn't know about its limping until I got and played the DLC. Made that second fight all the more crushing.
Love you guys! I sadly didn't get to meet up with you at this past psx which broke a streak for me lol. Hope to see you guys at the next one!
Nathan: Yeah I really like Jay. Father of the decade people
Side note just got to say I love the videos and really have a good laugh with you guys.
I'd have to say mine is Virgil from devil may cry and devil may cry 3. I mean in devil may cry you just find out your brother is still alive but being forced to fight you and in the third one you find out he wasent as bad as what you truly would of thought.
Lisa Trevor from the first Resident Evil. Also the bakers from RE7. They were nice people...except for maybe Lucas but the others were nice people whose life was just ruined.
Terminal Sarcasm Yeah, Lucas had some issues.
So a Dark Souls live stream from Hollie once the remaster is out? Honestly I'd watch a live stream series of her playing through the whole game.
Bet there’s a MGS boss on here, if there ain’t well I’m glad you have self control
They have no self control whatsoever.
Does Rob have his own personal channel, I need more Rob in my life! 😂
You shouldn't feel bad at the ending of The Last of Us. The fireflies were evil by accident. They were killing the people who were immune in a desperate futile attempt to transfer their immunity to themselves. Only the immune people like Ellie and her offspring have a chance to save humanity, and the fireflies are killing them all.
The Yahg in ME2 lair of the shadow broker. It was a really interesting character and a whole new species never even mentioned before. But I understand the necessity of it, and the battle was cool.
Don't worry Rob, there aren't any references to "the boss" in MGS1, I have just played it again for the tenth time thanks to the metal gear stupid series
True. Some of the Foxhound members refer to Liquid as "the boss", but they never use capital letters, and its clear they're only really referring to him as *their* boss. For example, when Ocelot says, "so you're the one that the boss keeps talking about."
That's probably what made Nathan or Dave think they remembered a reference to The Boss instead.
Maybe he was thinking about early on in MSG1, when “Master Miller” shows up over codec.
FFXII - Vossler Azelas. I really felt sad for having to kill him, he was a traitor, sure, but I kind of understand his reasoning, to forcibly free Dalmasca you have to go to war, Empire big, Dalmasca small, obvious huge numbers of casualties with Dalmasca still recuperaging its numbers after being conquered.Kinda sad, he just wanted to get some autonomy and wait for better opportunity to strike against Empire, sparing many lifes that would be lost otherwise.
rob, your face was priceless when you went super deep in thought ahaha
So guessed Rob's choice on access granted!!
For The Last of Us you do not have to kill the doctors just hit one and your good.
And y'all forgot about Pagan minn (if you killed him) He was a stand up chap, I loved him as a character and didn't want to hurt him. I'm so glad I didn't have to. "Every action has a consequence. You're king now, but I'm keeping the helicopter!" Possibly paraphrasing here, but that was a damn good ending.
WHAHAHA Loved Rob's confused face at the finale.
Damn looking really hot in this video Rob.
Me reading the title: : "If Sif isn't on here.."
Me 5 seconds later: "Right, Dark Souls remaster, of course she will be."
And we all knew Rob would say, "The Boss." We just all knew it.
Ravus from FFXV
Pedro Martinez I agreed with you on that one because at that time when you saw all of the fallen soldiers you definitely know that ravus was innocent an then you sudden have to fight him with his body half corrupted with his painful screech
JusT2LaZy Yeah it was sad enough when he died but at least you’d think he was resting peacefully but then after all the bullshit he was given in life he had to take on more bullshit even after death
EresirThe1st Yeah especially how he was made to think he was killed by Noct after all he did to protect noct and get the sword to him
Pedro Martinez he's a Daemon by the time you fight him, the only thing left of Ravus is the twisted form the Daemon takes so I don't think that really counts especially since someone else clearly killed him before the fight triggers
+The Lonewolfgamer There's still some of him/his personality left during the fight, if you listen to his dialogue he basically asks them to finish him off & curses at Ardyn.
Dave: "You would've doomed humanity if it had been Jay?"
Nath: "... Oh mate, probably, I really like Jay."
When I fought Sif having just defeated Artorias and Magnus for the first time, it broke my heart seeing him limping at the final stages of the fight. It's a different fight when you know the backstory.
Yes, Hollie you face off against Sif in Darkroot Basin.
Also you have to go there in order to gain Artorias' ring so that you can traverse the Abyss at the bottom of New Londo ruins.
Yo FextraLife...hit me up!
I don’t know if this would count as a boss but Songbird from Bioshock Infinite springs to mind.
Not a "boss"......more a mini-boss but I always feel bad for killing the Big Daddies in Bioshock. Especially when the Little Sister cries when they're dead. Lines like, " Wake up, Mr. B." tugs at my heartstrings every time.
Rob: Am I going mad?
Me: I thought you were mad with most of the Friday features being what they are :D
Love you all, and I hope Hollie and Dan have a good press trip. The rest of you get back to work :P
That would be something. Seven characters who could *really* use a name change.
hollie used sif as an example from dark souls and while i totally agree, i think that there are a couple more bosses from dark souls that really didn't deserve That - namely, quelaag. amazing chest jokes aside, she's only where she is because she's trying to get humanity from the various undead warriors coming for the bell of awakening to cure her sister. that's it.
so while sif is protecting his master's grave and trying to save you from the abyss by blocking the path, quelaag just wants her sister back. and every one of us who has finished dark souls just killed both of them because of some prophecy.
monsters, the lot of us.
I'm a mess every time I get to the meadow in Snake Eater!! I was hoping Rob would choose that one!
Though killing your own infected soldiers in MGSV is not easy either, and same goes for Liquid in MGS4 when you know it's actually also Ocelot 😭 I just love Ocelot too much!
Dude you guys missed out on Vaas from Far Cry 3. That dude was so cool yet you kill him in such a lame way.
Don’t want to do spoilers I didn’t want to kill a certain person in bioshock, but couldn’t help it.
Nigel Veasey A man chooses, a slave obeys.- Andrew Ryan.
Would you kindly explain yourself?
Damnit Nathan! I called the first three right and then you had to think outside the box...
Sif is one of the reasons I haven't beaten Dark Souls, the other is Anor Londo's Sentinels
Xion from Kingdom Hearts days would fit well here. With Vector to the Heavens playing in the background as you fight right in front of the place where the three friends bonded. And Xion shouting 'Stop holding back!'.
Star Duster agreed. The only other piece from the kingdom hearts that brings tears to my eyes, is the other promise (roxas’s theme) from the fight against roxas in the world that never was.
NAcHO1713 Only just occurred to me that they wouldn't put it on here because it was on DS not PlayStation haha
Star Duster they still could have... due to the franchise being a PlayStation exclusive.
Dave's Anakin reference hahahahaha that was great
Rob the Boss is the perfect choice for this. That fight is incredible and so sad.
Rob said metal gear solid 3 and my brain played the 'squeaking marker on a whiteboard' sound.
Hey could you do "8 questions about MGS that only Rob can answer"
Like what left the Boss' body when she died? Did Adamska know she was his mom? Wheres Quiet during shadow moses? Wheres raiden during TPP?
A tear went down my cheek at the end of MGS3 when all is revealed.
The Ghost of the Ship captain in God of War 2. After kicking him down the throat of the hydra and kicking him down from the climb out of Hades, I felt bad that he, once again, got resurrected just for Kratos to kill him again. He is kind of like Agrajag from Hitchhiker's Guide.
Legit though, I'd love a "what would we name bosses" show. "No, no, Ganon is stupid. He's PigBoy!" Or in DynastyWarriors, we're not fighting Oda Nobunaga but "Dragon Fist Killer". Even in Monster Hunter (minor spoiler), it could be "Spikes McGee" instead of Nergigante. (end spoiler)
Come on. it has to be Sephiroth or every dog in Far cry
I thought they did reference "the Boss" in MGS1, but it's referring to Liquid Snake. Ocelot mentions you're maybe as good as the Boss, doesn't he? Idk I feel some of the villains called Liquid that.
Snake's mentor in MGS 1 is Master Kazuhira Miller, Dave
Dutch from Red Dead Redemption, Andrew Ryan from Bioshock, and Pagin Min in Far Cry 4.
oh dave... if you have finished shadow of the colossus by now, I cried even harder at the ending
Ah the nearly Wednesday checklist! I've waited 21 hours for this...
It's still Tuesday...somewhere...
PlayStation Access I'm seeing this at 4AM on Wednesday.
PlayStation Access I was watching access granted yesterday and Nath and Dave were talking about the Tuesday checklist and I had to accept that I wouldnt see it until Wednesday. One day I will see a livestream.
Are you also from England?
Nathan Williamson I do live in England yes.
To his credit the say, there is only room for one boss in MGS1. They virtually call Boss to every descent of Big Boss.