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Hi, I love your product reviews good for Christmas presents for my sailor. I was thinking of using the dyneema line with chain for a stand by second anchor on the bow or changing it to the stern if I need to deploy in a narrow channel . My question is attaching the line on its reel to the push pit or pull pit strong enough to anchor on? What would you do? We have a Hans Christian 38T. Do you use the winch to wind in a heavy anchor, we have a mantus 30kg. I enjoy your channel thanks.
Yes I use the Ultra lines for the kedge anchor all the time. We’ve shown it in episodes a few times. I have a length of 10mm chain with a shackle for the anchor on one end and a locking carabiner on the other that I clip to the loop on the end of the UltraLine. I pass the UltraLine through the haws hole first so when the anchor is set it can be tied off to the horns. Yes you can use the winch with webbing you can fold it like a taco and pull it into the self trailer but I just get someone to tail it. Leave it on the winch as well as locked around the horns if your webbing is dyneema as it’s slippery and doesn’t lock off well
It’s actually called a haws hole but that’s can be misconstrued when said in script! So I always refer to them as scuppers (they do let some water out if we have a big wave over the side so it’s not entirely wrong.
Since I last commented here I bought a roll of 10mm dyneema and fitted it to a drum on the pushpit, to use primarily for tying to the shore. It's not as elegant as the reel but it was a more affordable option. Anyway, the reason I mention it is that in anything other than flat calm I have found the static line is way too snatchy unless I add in a reasonable length of polyester or preferably nylon into the system. I have concluded that static lines made from dyneema are not suitable for tying to the shore, there is just no spring in them when the load comes on. I'm curious if you add a spring into the system when using your dyneema reels? If not, do you not experience nasty shock loads every time a boat goes by or a wave rolls in?
The weave of the Ultra line gives it some stretch, I don't think anything like as much as a long length of polyester but we spent 2 or three years in Croatia Greece and Turkey stern tying to rocks pretty much every night and never had a problem
The hundred meter dyneema version is yes. I would say you need 80m and with a lighter boat than Fair Isle you could opt for the polyester line which is half the price, but it doesn’t float and I like the floating line for stern tying
Not really, apart from the fact the 60Meter reel fits on if perfectly and the 100m one sticks out a bit so it’s better off on the push pit rails I think
Love it. Having used long heavy warps provided by charter companies that sometimes don’t even float I now have my own light floating line I take with me on holiday. Usually just to quickly secure the boat and then we end up using the provided lines for more strength. Have often seen the ‘rope drums’ on some boats and been envious but this is so much smaller and stronger. However, I did once see a boat moored with a ‘tape type’ solution (don’t know if it was dyneema) and it made a hell of a noise. A really weird vibrating humming sound that would put me off. So you know if this one is subject to that?
Yes it’s part of the reason we replaced the old webbing reel we had on Fair Isle because it tended to resonate in high winds like that, I actually show it in the stern tying video we put out last week. The Ultra Line is not subject to that in the same way as it nowhere near as wide. However we do occasionally get some noise & the way around it is to twist the webbing before you cleat it off this stops the vibration.
Yes certainly. It’s obviously not as strong & as we have a very heavy boat I prefer the dyneema. Also it’s very nice having floating line for stern tying
Good stuff Steve! Love the channel. I'm looking for something similar that I can use both with a kedge anchor and for tying to the shore. I'm a bit worried about the strength of that stuff for a kedge anchor though... It has a MBL of 3200, similar to 6mm sk78 or 7mm of basic G40 chain. I imagine your bower anchor chain probably has a MBL somewhere around 10,000kg. If you had to use the kedge anchor in anger (ie the bower was out of use for some reason) I would imagine the ultraline would be a bit weak. What do you think? I'm wondering if a roll of 10mm sk78 might be more apropriate if I can find an elegant way to mount it...
Yes you’re right. I’m not considering using the Ultraline as a replacement for the bower anchor but then we are very lucky in that we have two bower anchors on Fair Isle permanently mounted under the bow sprit on very strong 10mm chain. I do think in normal operation as rode for a kedge anchor, I.e. not holding the whole weight of the boat but being a secondary anchor for positioning the Ultraline is more than strong enough even with a 26ton boat like Fair Isle. We do also have a roll of rode on the bow, I show it in the stern tying video, but you can see the size of it if you’re relying on rode then it must be on a roll, if it’s coiled in a locker you might as well not bother!
Yes it floats. Sorry there’s a whole video on stern tying that we put out last week that goes through it all, it made me forget to put some points in this video, you tend to loose track of what you said where!
Well you get what you pay for, not in all circumstances granted, sometimes you’re paying for a name or because it’s the in thing. With this it’s not about that, it is much more a reflection of the quality. Yes you could buy 2 or 3 cheaper versions for the price of this, but they may only last half as long so if you’re keeping your boat you end up with the same expense and have all the time working with an inferior product that maybe doesn’t reel out well or allows twists through the rollers as our old one did. For us I rather not have the hassle of dealing with second rate products and then having to replace them.
Largely I do agree with you... These tapes are definetly the way to go, but this is the Rolls-Royce of stern lines... The ankoralina is about a 10th of the price with an anodised aluminium drum (arguably easier to keep clean.) I've had one for 6 years now and it has been brilliant, but like you, I feel the need for a second one to give more stability. I simply couldn't afford 2 ultralines!
@@lkmb1717 Well, ultraline anchors are stainless and when you compare them to other stainless anchors they are around the same price. Again, very good anchors, but I'm not sure if I could handle chucking something that valuable over the side!
I disagree. All boats have a taffrail, in the old days it would be where you clip on your taffrail log. But if a boat had an overhanging deck section then that’s a push pit same as a raised structure in say a church would be a pulpit. So our stern rail is a taffrail but the whole raise section is the push pit.
@@svfairisle A Taffrail is ALL the raised section around the stern of a vessel. The work comes from the Dutch and means 'highly ornate' and I believe the word 'taffeta' comes from the same root. Take a look at the stern of HMS Victory. It is only in recent times that amateurs have associated the two words 'pushpit' with 'pulpit', which is a bit lame really and just shows ignorance, the same as they call the Fife rails, 'grannie-bars'
Well as I said that can’t be right because not many boats have a raised section and all boats have a taff rail, otherwise where would you attach your taff rail log?! As for a fife rail we in my book that a rail attached to the shrouds on square riggers.
@ the proper term is probably mast pulpit, but most people call them granny bars or sissy bars. The term fife rail is also used but that’s only really if they have belay pins. We have belay pins in the rail so ours could be called a fife rail, but it’s not attached to the stays so maybe not! The fife rail was a place where the piper would sit while the crew worked the capstan as it’s a good place to be steadied between the shrouds so not really the case with ours!
The bottle opener sold me!!
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the bottle opener is the killer feature! I want one!🤣
It is a new feature and yes, we love it too! 😁 Cheers!
For the form factor and apparent ease of use. Seems worth it to me. Thank you for the video!
Came for the Ultra line, stayed for the beer..!
I’ve become a boatless Fair Isle sailing gear review geek…. I love this video… please don’t judge me😢
Nice now I know what to get when I sail to med after hurricane season
Cheers guys!
Hi, I love your product reviews good for Christmas presents for my sailor. I was thinking of using the dyneema line with chain for a stand by second anchor on the bow or changing it to the stern if I need to deploy in a narrow channel . My question is attaching the line on its reel to the push pit or pull pit strong enough to anchor on? What would you do? We have a Hans Christian 38T. Do you use the winch to wind in a heavy anchor, we have a mantus 30kg.
I enjoy your channel thanks.
Yes I use the Ultra lines for the kedge anchor all the time. We’ve shown it in episodes a few times. I have a length of 10mm chain with a shackle for the anchor on one end and a locking carabiner on the other that I clip to the loop on the end of the UltraLine. I pass the UltraLine through the haws hole first so when the anchor is set it can be tied off to the horns. Yes you can use the winch with webbing you can fold it like a taco and pull it into the self trailer but I just get someone to tail it. Leave it on the winch as well as locked around the horns if your webbing is dyneema as it’s slippery and doesn’t lock off well
Love your channel,keep up the good work.It's called a fairlead not a scupper😉
It’s actually called a haws hole but that’s can be misconstrued when said in script! So I always refer to them as scuppers (they do let some water out if we have a big wave over the side so it’s not entirely wrong.
Since I last commented here I bought a roll of 10mm dyneema and fitted it to a drum on the pushpit, to use primarily for tying to the shore. It's not as elegant as the reel but it was a more affordable option. Anyway, the reason I mention it is that in anything other than flat calm I have found the static line is way too snatchy unless I add in a reasonable length of polyester or preferably nylon into the system. I have concluded that static lines made from dyneema are not suitable for tying to the shore, there is just no spring in them when the load comes on. I'm curious if you add a spring into the system when using your dyneema reels? If not, do you not experience nasty shock loads every time a boat goes by or a wave rolls in?
The weave of the Ultra line gives it some stretch, I don't think anything like as much as a long length of polyester but we spent 2 or three years in Croatia Greece and Turkey stern tying to rocks pretty much every night and never had a problem
cheers
Lekker man lekker 🇿🇦
Thanks Steve, I’m not sure if I’ve looked up the right product, is this really a couple of grand?
The hundred meter dyneema version is yes. I would say you need 80m and with a lighter boat than Fair Isle you could opt for the polyester line which is half the price, but it doesn’t float and I like the floating line for stern tying
@@svfairisle thanks
Steve - any reason for not creating symmetry and mounting the second line on port side of the deck box? Great video - thanks.
Not really, apart from the fact the 60Meter reel fits on if perfectly and the 100m one sticks out a bit so it’s better off on the push pit rails I think
Love it. Having used long heavy warps provided by charter companies that sometimes don’t even float I now have my own light floating line I take with me on holiday. Usually just to quickly secure the boat and then we end up using the provided lines for more strength. Have often seen the ‘rope drums’ on some boats and been envious but this is so much smaller and stronger. However, I did once see a boat moored with a ‘tape type’ solution (don’t know if it was dyneema) and it made a hell of a noise. A really weird vibrating humming sound that would put me off. So you know if this one is subject to that?
Yes it’s part of the reason we replaced the old webbing reel we had on Fair Isle because it tended to resonate in high winds like that, I actually show it in the stern tying video we put out last week. The Ultra Line is not subject to that in the same way as it nowhere near as wide. However we do occasionally get some noise & the way around it is to twist the webbing before you cleat it off this stops the vibration.
Thanks for the great video. Ultra also has a polyester version, at practically half the price. Could that be a reasonable compromise?
Yes certainly. It’s obviously not as strong & as we have a very heavy boat I prefer the dyneema. Also it’s very nice having floating line for stern tying
@@svfairisle do you mean that the polyester version is not floating?
@@sirox68 the polyester line doesn’t float
Good stuff Steve! Love the channel. I'm looking for something similar that I can use both with a kedge anchor and for tying to the shore. I'm a bit worried about the strength of that stuff for a kedge anchor though... It has a MBL of 3200, similar to 6mm sk78 or 7mm of basic G40 chain. I imagine your bower anchor chain probably has a MBL somewhere around 10,000kg. If you had to use the kedge anchor in anger (ie the bower was out of use for some reason) I would imagine the ultraline would be a bit weak. What do you think?
I'm wondering if a roll of 10mm sk78 might be more apropriate if I can find an elegant way to mount it...
Yes you’re right. I’m not considering using the Ultraline as a replacement for the bower anchor but then we are very lucky in that we have two bower anchors on Fair Isle permanently mounted under the bow sprit on very strong 10mm chain. I do think in normal operation as rode for a kedge anchor, I.e. not holding the whole weight of the boat but being a secondary anchor for positioning the Ultraline is more than strong enough even with a 26ton boat like Fair Isle. We do also have a roll of rode on the bow, I show it in the stern tying video, but you can see the size of it if you’re relying on rode then it must be on a roll, if it’s coiled in a locker you might as well not bother!
@@svfairisle Thanks Steve, that makes sense using it with the kedge only in conjunction with the bower. I knew you'd have a robust setup!
You didnt mention if the tape floats or not? cheers
Yes it floats. Sorry there’s a whole video on stern tying that we put out last week that goes through it all, it made me forget to put some points in this video, you tend to loose track of what you said where!
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Looks good but the price is nuts, I’ll continue using my 100 mts of floating 14mm line that costs around €200.00.
Yes, great thing but the price is ....... 🤔
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Nearly £2000 for 100m? I think that is toppish....
Amazing product, but does the price justify it???
Well you get what you pay for, not in all circumstances granted, sometimes you’re paying for a name or because it’s the in thing. With this it’s not about that, it is much more a reflection of the quality. Yes you could buy 2 or 3 cheaper versions for the price of this, but they may only last half as long so if you’re keeping your boat you end up with the same expense and have all the time working with an inferior product that maybe doesn’t reel out well or allows twists through the rollers as our old one did. For us I rather not have the hassle of dealing with second rate products and then having to replace them.
Largely I do agree with you... These tapes are definetly the way to go, but this is the Rolls-Royce of stern lines... The ankoralina is about a 10th of the price with an anodised aluminium drum (arguably easier to keep clean.) I've had one for 6 years now and it has been brilliant, but like you, I feel the need for a second one to give more stability. I simply couldn't afford 2 ultralines!
@@SailingAquamarine I was also checking their anchors..... ridiculously priced....
@@lkmb1717 Well, ultraline anchors are stainless and when you compare them to other stainless anchors they are around the same price. Again, very good anchors, but I'm not sure if I could handle chucking something that valuable over the side!
they are $ expensive
Steve: It is NOT a 'pushpit'. Its correct name is the 'Taffrail'. Only amateurs call it a pushpit.
I disagree. All boats have a taffrail, in the old days it would be where you clip on your taffrail log. But if a boat had an overhanging deck section then that’s a push pit same as a raised structure in say a church would be a pulpit. So our stern rail is a taffrail but the whole raise section is the push pit.
@@svfairisle A Taffrail is ALL the raised section around the stern of a vessel. The work comes from the Dutch and means 'highly ornate' and I believe the word 'taffeta' comes from the same root. Take a look at the stern of HMS Victory. It is only in recent times that amateurs have associated the two words 'pushpit' with 'pulpit', which is a bit lame really and just shows ignorance, the same as they call the Fife rails, 'grannie-bars'
Well as I said that can’t be right because not many boats have a raised section and all boats have a taff rail, otherwise where would you attach your taff rail log?! As for a fife rail we in my book that a rail attached to the shrouds on square riggers.
@@svfairisleis there another name for granny bars?
@ the proper term is probably mast pulpit, but most people call them granny bars or sissy bars. The term fife rail is also used but that’s only really if they have belay pins. We have belay pins in the rail so ours could be called a fife rail, but it’s not attached to the stays so maybe not! The fife rail was a place where the piper would sit while the crew worked the capstan as it’s a good place to be steadied between the shrouds so not really the case with ours!