great video, it's always a pleasure watching trucktechUK, especially when you do invasive diagnosis. As for that NO Start, if its not a faulty sensor/ wiring issue, probably something on the gear teeth for crank/cam.
Shit, he was lucky with that snapped pedestal post, if the spring retainer had been pushed down far enough to let the keepers out it would have been a bad day lol, nice work mate
You are doing a fantastic job. Thanks for your informative beautiful videos. I work in company that produces Daf pumps.. I always watch new videos completely in a single time without any interruption Thanks again
3rd one will be an interesting diag. I havent worked on MX13 before, but the cranking sounds pretty uneven to me, unsure if thats normal. If i was working on this I would be starting a relative compression test with an scope/amp clamp over the starter positive to identify if its a potential mechanical issue. Pressure transducer could be a good option here too. If the relative crank shows up normal I'd be scoping the cam and crank signals to see if they are present/synced properly. Lots of variables on this, especially with the pressure in the cooling system and the codes. Definitely more info needed though, cant wait to see what you find.
Hey, thanks for the comment! Finally, someone who wants to do more with a picoscope and a WPS500! I'd love to go down that road but jaltest will carry out its own compression test (which I believe uses cylinder acceleration) I'd love to use a pressure transducer in the cooling system and sync that to a cylinder waveform for possible head gasket failure if I could, Oh to have the tools to do this 😅. The usual answer I'd get from other techs is just pull it to bits and look! 🫣😮💨 I have a 2 channel scope on the van.....if I get a chance I will scope both the sensors and try and do an overlay of the waveforms just for the fun of it 😀
That last one is a good one to deal with...All the codes are all 1 or 2 occurrences ,But i think the pressurisng is the clue,,,Now on the MY17 the WABCO compressor was a known issue for pressurising the cooling system...So there is that ,It could also have dropped a liner or 2 which again pressurises the system ,,the fact it still has pressure after so many day is impressive ,though had one that had a tiny bit after 6 weeks ...Personally before pulling it apart i would do a quick compression test ..See if it points me to any cylinders...Use the old lap top to its max ,,Even checking the injection during cranking will let you know the state of the fuel system ..but it at this moment isnt fuel ..But hey i dont need to tell you anything,,Even a bore scope down the injector holes will let you see water in the cylinders ,check the oil level etc ...But the pressure is the clue head gaskets if the old multi layer are bullet proof the new one not so ...That customer has some big bills coming ,no cheap repairs there
Hey Norb, thanks for the comment as always buddy! You are my go-to engine man 😅😎👌. I'm going to compression test through the tool and bore scope camera I think. It would be the least amount of bits coming off I think. I've another this week for a different company.....fuel in the coolant 🤔 injector sleeves possibly I think so I will pressurise the fuel system I think....Time to make some adaptors up!
@@TRUCKTECHUK I had fuel in the coolant once..new head...you can make up a hose connect it to the head where you do a leak off pressurise it with air remove to rad hose and you will hear it bubbling away in the coolant...personally I have never known anyone replace injector sleeves .maybe an engineering shop could,,,If both MY2017 have the same part number cylinder heads and both need removing ,you could put the non start vehicles on the broken post one if it is ok and one is back on the road ,,...with the heads of it is a good idea just to pull the followers as they are probably at that age as they do not have bridge pieces jump for no reason and it was the exhaust...I have found over the ones i have done that if the small C clip on the exhaust bridge is missing then that cylinder has an isssue ..You should be able to check cam crank synco on your lap top whilst spinning it over ,,You know what to do anyway , dont need my help
Just had the exact same problem at work as the first XF I am going to say that it will need a new Cam shaft as the lowebs have spun. And have had similar faults for the second XF also a faulty Cam shaft.
Hey Beny! Glad you like the video buddy. Seems to be working so I'm gonna see how this style of video goes and I might do something else like DAF technical information videos or something 🤔. See how I get on with one upload a week again 😂
Where’s the wheel nuts on both sides of the DAF with the doggie crank shaft Great video by the way keep them coming Seems like that firm runs a good fleet I suppose that’s why your there your the only one to get them running
Hey Toby thanks for the comment buddy. I think they had borrowed the wheels and wing tops for another truck for test. So slapped the other wheels on to move it out of the workshop. I suppose I'm cheaper than daf when it comes to getting them going 😅
Ive got a euro 6 CF that constantly reports P0340 hinting at camshaft sensor or wiring. Truck has an extended start (nearly 10 seconds) and is clearly only running on crank sensor. Every now and again it will just cut out, rev counter goes to zero and just cuts out dead and then reports crank signal as faulty similar description. I have the wiring for PCIs and tested the wiring several times and nothing untoward on either sensor. Changed both cam and crank sensors as a matter of course but that was desperation. All grounds to PCI present also. Physically checked the crank and cam signals on a scope, all ok. One thing that seemed to not help matters was that the truck has been cranked so long that theres loads of swarf in bellhousing and it was continuously building up on crank sensor, there truck would always restart after knocking this off and putting sensor back in…..without fail the cam sensor is reported as faulty in either case. Have even checked the reluctor on the camshaft, still good. The pci was sent off for an unrelated CAN fault before and a lot of this seemed to be the case when it returned. Have you ever seen it before? Tempted to get just get another pci from daf and program it on there or get DAF aid to do it. Keep looking for something we havent done but running out of ideas. Like I say all the wiring on the sensors checks out on pins 1,2 and 3.
I've had issues with intermittent Crankshaft signals before and even after a new sensor and wiring to the PCI ecu it would still give faults or cut out. This was an MX-11 and that turned out to be the PCI ecu 😬 I think as long as the sensors in the bell housing and the wiring is okay you only point towards the ECU unfortunately.
I have no idea you know! It's not happy what ever has gone on! It's odd we have crank and cam codes.......pressure in the header tank too. It's all very hydraulic/internal 😮💨
not a truck technician, but pretty interested in diagnosis of it. Does these engine have egr coolers? pressure on cooling system can also be caused by an egr cooler
Hey Sean. It's the best way to be lol they do have coolers buddy. They have what is known as hot and cold EGR systems. As you can imagine the cold EGR systems block up a lot with soot-related issues (see my LF videos for that one 🫣) and the hot ones do not so much but they do suffer from split EGR coolers just not as often as you would think as it would be one of my first go-to's to check.
I don’t think the pressurising has something to do with it separate issue, that sounds like it wants to fire, is the smoke diesel fumes 🤔 I’m interested in this one
Excellent video 👌 The non starting XF wants me to say it’s internal, with that pressure in the header tank. With that smoke, the knock as she tries to fire, cam/crank correlation fault, also sounded right when you started cranking…. Head? Bent rod? it all seems very suspicious to me, 🫣🫣
Hey benny, all sounds rather bent doesn't it 🫣. I will try a compression test and a bore score afterwards I think. Might give me an idea of what's going on without taking it to 10000 bits
Hey Roy, the best thing you can do is give Eclipse Diagnostics a ring and mention my name. They will get a Rep out to you for a free demo and you can have a play with it, get the rep to ring the support line if you want and see how good the remote support is! Eclipse has a few offers on currently like £65 a week. Then you could get the texa rep out and see if you find it simple to use as jaltest and do a comparison of the two 👍
Hi. Why are the 31 faults irrelevant.? Also I’ve seen several DAFs recently with active fault codes for DPF status lamp in VIC/SWS but no EML or warnings on & causing no other issues. What’s going on there? Thanks.
Hey Tony, -31 codes are information only codes they dont relate to any actual faulty component on its own. Usually when you look at the description of the fault code it says don't trouble shooting this dtc.
@@TRUCKTECHUK. Thanks. Will check that out next time I come across it. How about the particulate filter status lamp fault.? Active fault for open circuit or short to ground. Seen it on a number of DAFs recently but seems to cause no problems? Thanks again.
@tonywilson4676 you would have seen it on a daf lf I take it?......daf changed the switches out so you couldn't turn off the dpf regeneration any more. Part of this recall was the new switch and an update if I remember correctly to suppress the DTC on the dash but it remained active in the ecu
@@TRUCKTECHUKHi, yes that’s right. Seen it on several LFs & CFs recently when looking at various emissions related faults. It’d occurred to me it might be an update of some sort for it to be present in several vehicles. Thanks for the info. I work on all makes of commercials specialising in diagnostic work, if ever you need a hand with anything non DAF, please get in touch! Thanks again.
Blimey things ain’t what they used to be with DAF that’s for sure !!! The good old 1160 ATI work horse would kick the ass out of these new electronic voodoo units
Daf are reliable.....if you treat them right and don't buy a nail of a truck that's had no maintenance.....just like any other truck manufacturer I suppose 👍
I had a volvo once when another person mixed up the plugs between cam and crank sensors . Or in your case has the engine lost its timing mechanically??
hey Ray, i was just looking at the fault codes on the video and noticed one for engine over speed also! its a mystery to me......hopefully i will get to find something this week with it
All that pressure in the header tank can't be right, head gasget failure? Also yes it is trying to start but is reminiscent of a poor fuel supply. I know Jaltest would pick that up but I am old school and would be looking for a fractured pipe.
@garysweet9384 it does seem like a head gasket issue 🤔 it will need a bit more investigation mechanically I think. Might scope the camshaft and crankshaft signal or just look for bits of engine parts again
Hey buddy thanks for the comment. I don't know of anything online fundamental wise unfortunately 😕. I've been meaning to do some courses but like a 100 other things i need the time
Yes that last mx-13 really isn't happy. I don't think it's electrical, it seems mechanical/hydraulic in some way which I think we will only get to the bottom once it comes to bits...IF the customer wants to go that far with it 😫
Sounds like that last truck has a blown head gasket or badly cracked head, something is causing it to hydraulic spesh when ya started loosening the header tank cap and it had that amount of pressure just from crankin, nice finger action there too hahah popular with the girls me ole mate?? 🙂
Hey John, thanks for the comment. Yes I wonder if one of the cylinders is filling with coolant. It's quite possible something is bent now unfortunately 😕.
We understand what broke and what pieces need to be replaced,,But your not addressing the actual problem,,Why did they break,,,These are not the sort of parts that just break for no reason,,Because these parts are related to engine timing as it's the cam that operates them ,,maybe it might have something to do with this,,,Untill the main underlying problem is addressed ,,I think they will just break again,,
Am learning alot from u guys
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you are getting something out of it 😎👍
great video, it's always a pleasure watching trucktechUK, especially when you do invasive diagnosis. As for that NO Start, if its not a faulty sensor/ wiring issue, probably something on the gear teeth for crank/cam.
Cheers for the comment 👍 😎. I'd like to think it's electrical.....we will hopefully see thus week and include it in next week's video!
Shit, he was lucky with that snapped pedestal post, if the spring retainer had been pushed down far enough to let the keepers out it would have been a bad day lol, nice work mate
I'm amazed it's been running okay with no fault codes! I thought the valve collets might have gone for a walk if we had left it any longer like that.
You are doing a fantastic job. Thanks for your informative beautiful videos. I work in company that produces Daf pumps.. I always watch new videos completely in a single time without any interruption Thanks again
Hi thanks for the comment and for watching the video 👍😎.
I'm glad you like the videos buddy 👌
Hey bro nice work bro
Learn something nee today
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Thanks for watching buddy glad you learnt something 😎👍
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That was an excellent video! Keep the good work.
Cheers buddy thanks for watching and for the comment 👌
Thank you.
No problem Mauritz 😎👍
3rd one will be an interesting diag. I havent worked on MX13 before, but the cranking sounds pretty uneven to me, unsure if thats normal.
If i was working on this I would be starting a relative compression test with an scope/amp clamp over the starter positive to identify if its a potential mechanical issue. Pressure transducer could be a good option here too.
If the relative crank shows up normal I'd be scoping the cam and crank signals to see if they are present/synced properly.
Lots of variables on this, especially with the pressure in the cooling system and the codes. Definitely more info needed though, cant wait to see what you find.
Hey, thanks for the comment! Finally, someone who wants to do more with a picoscope and a WPS500!
I'd love to go down that road but jaltest will carry out its own compression test (which I believe uses cylinder acceleration)
I'd love to use a pressure transducer in the cooling system and sync that to a cylinder waveform for possible head gasket failure if I could, Oh to have the tools to do this 😅.
The usual answer I'd get from other techs is just pull it to bits and look! 🫣😮💨
I have a 2 channel scope on the van.....if I get a chance I will scope both the sensors and try and do an overlay of the waveforms just for the fun of it 😀
That last one is a good one to deal with...All the codes are all 1 or 2 occurrences ,But i think the pressurisng is the clue,,,Now on the MY17 the WABCO compressor was a known issue for pressurising the cooling system...So there is that ,It could also have dropped a liner or 2 which again pressurises the system ,,the fact it still has pressure after so many day is impressive ,though had one that had a tiny bit after 6 weeks ...Personally before pulling it apart i would do a quick compression test ..See if it points me to any cylinders...Use the old lap top to its max ,,Even checking the injection during cranking will let you know the state of the fuel system ..but it at this moment isnt fuel ..But hey i dont need to tell you anything,,Even a bore scope down the injector holes will let you see water in the cylinders ,check the oil level etc ...But the pressure is the clue head gaskets if the old multi layer are bullet proof the new one not so ...That customer has some big bills coming ,no cheap repairs there
Hey Norb, thanks for the comment as always buddy! You are my go-to engine man 😅😎👌.
I'm going to compression test through the tool and bore scope camera I think. It would be the least amount of bits coming off I think.
I've another this week for a different company.....fuel in the coolant 🤔 injector sleeves possibly I think so I will pressurise the fuel system I think....Time to make some adaptors up!
@@TRUCKTECHUK I had fuel in the coolant once..new head...you can make up a hose connect it to the head where you do a leak off pressurise it with air remove to rad hose and you will hear it bubbling away in the coolant...personally I have never known anyone replace injector sleeves .maybe an engineering shop could,,,If both MY2017 have the same part number cylinder heads and both need removing ,you could put the non start vehicles on the broken post one if it is ok and one is back on the road ,,...with the heads of it is a good idea just to pull the followers as they are probably at that age as they do not have bridge pieces jump for no reason and it was the exhaust...I have found over the ones i have done that if the small C clip on the exhaust bridge is missing then that cylinder has an isssue ..You should be able to check cam crank synco on your lap top whilst spinning it over ,,You know what to do anyway , dont need my help
20:06 Wheres the wheel nuts? hahahah lucky it didn't start and you took it for a spin
I think he had swapped the wheels, the half shaft was out too I think.
Good job 👍
Thanks for the visit buddy 😎👍
Nice 👍
Thanks buddy
Just had the exact same problem at work as the first XF I am going to say that it will need a new Cam shaft as the lowebs have spun. And have had similar faults for the second XF also a faulty Cam shaft.
Hey mate nice video always love your videos keep it like that.👍
Hey Beny! Glad you like the video buddy. Seems to be working so I'm gonna see how this style of video goes and I might do something else like DAF technical information videos or something 🤔. See how I get on with one upload a week again 😂
I am waiting for that mate .
Good luck!
nice 1 buddy
Cheers mick 👍
nice work mate and very interesting as usual was that Hough Greens yard u were at ?
Hey Steve 👋. If I said the guy who owns it is named Dave hopefully that will answer your question lol
Where’s the wheel nuts on both sides of the DAF with the doggie crank shaft
Great video by the way keep them coming
Seems like that firm runs a good fleet
I suppose that’s why your there your the only one to get them running
Hey Toby thanks for the comment buddy. I think they had borrowed the wheels and wing tops for another truck for test. So slapped the other wheels on to move it out of the workshop.
I suppose I'm cheaper than daf when it comes to getting them going 😅
Ive got a euro 6 CF that constantly reports P0340 hinting at camshaft sensor or wiring. Truck has an extended start (nearly 10 seconds) and is clearly only running on crank sensor. Every now and again it will just cut out, rev counter goes to zero and just cuts out dead and then reports crank signal as faulty similar description. I have the wiring for PCIs and tested the wiring several times and nothing untoward on either sensor. Changed both cam and crank sensors as a matter of course but that was desperation. All grounds to PCI present also. Physically checked the crank and cam signals on a scope, all ok.
One thing that seemed to not help matters was that the truck has been cranked so long that theres loads of swarf in bellhousing and it was continuously building up on crank sensor, there truck would always restart after knocking this off and putting sensor back in…..without fail the cam sensor is reported as faulty in either case. Have even checked the reluctor on the camshaft, still good. The pci was sent off for an unrelated CAN fault before and a lot of this seemed to be the case when it returned. Have you ever seen it before? Tempted to get just get another pci from daf and program it on there or get DAF aid to do it. Keep looking for something we havent done but running out of ideas. Like I say all the wiring on the sensors checks out on pins 1,2 and 3.
I've had issues with intermittent Crankshaft signals before and even after a new sensor and wiring to the PCI ecu it would still give faults or cut out. This was an MX-11 and that turned out to be the PCI ecu 😬 I think as long as the sensors in the bell housing and the wiring is okay you only point towards the ECU unfortunately.
@@TRUCKTECHUK It’s on a mx-11….PCI sounding more likely. Thanks for your advice!
Love the approach. Cam slipped? Its half firing on a couple
I have no idea you know! It's not happy what ever has gone on! It's odd we have crank and cam codes.......pressure in the header tank too. It's all very hydraulic/internal 😮💨
O heck got some nice problems there 😯
Another day another DAF John 😂😂😂😂😂😅
not a truck technician, but pretty interested in diagnosis of it. Does these engine have egr coolers? pressure on cooling system can also be caused by an egr cooler
Hey Sean. It's the best way to be lol they do have coolers buddy. They have what is known as hot and cold EGR systems. As you can imagine the cold EGR systems block up a lot with soot-related issues (see my LF videos for that one 🫣) and the hot ones do not so much but they do suffer from split EGR coolers just not as often as you would think as it would be one of my first go-to's to check.
I don’t think the pressurising has something to do with it separate issue, that sounds like it wants to fire, is the smoke diesel fumes 🤔 I’m interested in this one
Hey buddy how are you! Ahhhh it's all a mess lol I'm going compression test and bore-scope I think. The fewer things I can take out the better 😌
@@TRUCKTECHUK I’m good mate currently enjoying down time on holiday 🤣 oh yeah 100% I’ll be interested to see what the fault is
Excellent video 👌
The non starting XF wants me to say it’s internal, with that pressure in the header tank. With that smoke, the knock as she tries to fire, cam/crank correlation fault, also sounded right when you started cranking…. Head? Bent rod? it all seems very suspicious to me, 🫣🫣
Hey benny, all sounds rather bent doesn't it 🫣.
I will try a compression test and a bore score afterwards I think. Might give me an idea of what's going on without taking it to 10000 bits
Hi mate, at the moment i am using bosch kts truck but looking at moving to either jaltest or texa, which would you say is the best out of the 2
Hey Roy, the best thing you can do is give Eclipse Diagnostics a ring and mention my name.
They will get a Rep out to you for a free demo and you can have a play with it, get the rep to ring the support line if you want and see how good the remote support is!
Eclipse has a few offers on currently like £65 a week.
Then you could get the texa rep out and see if you find it simple to use as jaltest and do a comparison of the two 👍
Thank you for that, will give eclipse a call tomorrow to arrange for a rep to visit for a demo 👍
@royvowles7142 it won't cost you a thing at the end of the day and you will get your hands on it to have a play about 😎
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Hi. Why are the 31 faults irrelevant.? Also I’ve seen several DAFs recently with active fault codes for DPF status lamp in VIC/SWS but no EML or warnings on & causing no other issues. What’s going on there? Thanks.
Hey Tony, -31 codes are information only codes they dont relate to any actual faulty component on its own. Usually when you look at the description of the fault code it says don't trouble shooting this dtc.
@@TRUCKTECHUK. Thanks. Will check that out next time I come across it. How about the particulate filter status lamp fault.? Active fault for open circuit or short to ground. Seen it on a number of DAFs recently but seems to cause no problems? Thanks again.
@tonywilson4676 you would have seen it on a daf lf I take it?......daf changed the switches out so you couldn't turn off the dpf regeneration any more. Part of this recall was the new switch and an update if I remember correctly to suppress the DTC on the dash but it remained active in the ecu
@@TRUCKTECHUKHi, yes that’s right. Seen it on several LFs & CFs recently when looking at various emissions related faults. It’d occurred to me it might be an update of some sort for it to be present in several vehicles. Thanks for the info. I work on all makes of commercials specialising in diagnostic work, if ever you need a hand with anything non DAF, please get in touch! Thanks again.
@tonywilson4676 no problem Tony. I try and stay away from anything non-daf 😂😂😂, I've enough junk on my van as it is just for daf 😅
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Thanks mate 😎👍
Blimey things ain’t what they used to be with DAF that’s for sure !!!
The good old 1160 ATI work horse would kick the ass out of these new electronic voodoo units
So are these dafs reliable, if not which are the most reliable
Daf are reliable.....if you treat them right and don't buy a nail of a truck that's had no maintenance.....just like any other truck manufacturer I suppose 👍
Bro nice videos .but like all the fir that day is abit afraid of the doktor
But that is it is with this work
But still rhe fault is found
Hey buddy thanks for watching. Yep it's all a bit nuts. I think this was over 2 days, I just didn't put the days in like I usually do 😂
I had a volvo once when another person mixed up the plugs between cam and crank sensors . Or in your case has the engine lost its timing mechanically??
hey Ray, i was just looking at the fault codes on the video and noticed one for engine over speed also! its a mystery to me......hopefully i will get to find something this week with it
@@TRUCKTECHUK looking forward to the cinclusion very interesting mate
All that pressure in the header tank can't be right, head gasget failure? Also yes it is trying to start but is reminiscent of a poor fuel supply. I know Jaltest would pick that up but I am old school and would be looking for a fractured pipe.
@garysweet9384 it does seem like a head gasket issue 🤔 it will need a bit more investigation mechanically I think. Might scope the camshaft and crankshaft signal or just look for bits of engine parts again
Is there any online course about Heavy duty vehicle mechanics? I am light vehicle mechanic.
Hey buddy thanks for the comment. I don't know of anything online fundamental wise unfortunately 😕.
I've been meaning to do some courses but like a 100 other things i need the time
a 20.05 la roue avant gauche n'a pas d'ecrous ?????
Yes, it's had the wheels swapped out for another truck 😅
Another top quality video mate keep up the good work hopefully theres a follow-up video next week. 🤞
Hey james. Thanks for the comment. I'm also hoping I get down to do the work this week so we can have a conclusion to it all
That last one deffinately pressurising the cooling system. Head off job bare minimum now! Maybe a bent rod or two aswell.
Yes that last mx-13 really isn't happy. I don't think it's electrical, it seems mechanical/hydraulic in some way which I think we will only get to the bottom once it comes to bits...IF the customer wants to go that far with it 😫
Sounds like that last truck has a blown head gasket or badly cracked head, something is causing it to hydraulic spesh when ya started loosening the header tank cap and it had that amount of pressure just from crankin, nice finger action there too hahah popular with the girls me ole mate?? 🙂
Hey John, thanks for the comment. Yes I wonder if one of the cylinders is filling with coolant. It's quite possible something is bent now unfortunately 😕.
We understand what broke and what pieces need to be replaced,,But your not addressing the actual problem,,Why did they break,,,These are not the sort of parts that just break for no reason,,Because these parts are related to engine timing as it's the cam that operates them ,,maybe it might have something to do with this,,,Untill the main underlying problem is addressed ,,I think they will just break again,,
Me too