That intro theme has grown on me. It's so laid back, chill and catchy. This is coming from a person who makes music, so you know it's pretty awesome. lol
The other great thing about the music, is, as more ppl join Patreon, they can just loop the song to any length they want to fit the credits in the outro. Shoutout to Lui Salazar!
You were right to be confused. The ending narration in the first film is read by Doc and he's talking about Billy's death, but here he's killed before Billy. What happened was, Kiefer Sutherland was only going to be available for a limited time for this shoot because of another project, and insisted he wasn't going to bother doing it unless his character could go out in a blazing gunfight. The writer and producer eventually had to yield to his request. It's historically inaccurate, but still a great scene. Chavez, likewise, survived past Billy's death, wandering the West for a while. He almost killed Bob Ford, the man who gunned down ANOTHER Wild West legend, Jesse James, but Ford ran away. Chavez was a deputy for a while but fell back into criminal activity and died in prison. Tom the orphan actually was one of the original Regulators but wasn't in the first film. They gave him a different story here (he was much closer to Billy's age). Tom's name is inscribed on the same headstone as Billy (along with Charlie Bowdre, who was gunned down at the end of the first movie). Arkansas Dave Rudabaugh was kind of the Forrest Gump of the Wild West, running into a huge number of more famous or infamous names in Western history - Doc Holliday, the three Earp brothers (Wyatt, Virgil, Morgan), Bat Masterson, Curly Bill Brocius, Mysterious Dave Mather, Hoodoo Brown, and of course Billy the Kid himself. He was a bank robber, a train robber, a stagecoach robber, a gambler, a hired gun for the railroads, and was a member of several notorious Wild West gangs - the Trio, the Dodge City Gang, the Cowboys, and the Rustlers. The movie is half-right - he was killed in a gunfight in Mexico and his corpse was beheaded and his head mounted on a pike. Brushy Bill Roberts...well, there's probably no way we'll ever know the truth of that one. Attempts to exhume the Kid's remains for DNA testing have been blocked by the courts. Photographic analysis of surviving photos of Roberts with the famous tintype of Billy holding his rifle - it's the photo used in his Wikipedia entry and the ONLY image every historian agrees was definitely Billy the Kid - seem to indicate a strong likelihood of a match. On the other hand, some acquaintances of Roberts have suggested that Roberts had first claimed he rode with Jesse James before "deciding" on the Billy the Kid story. So it will probably remain a mystery, at least until someone invents a time machine.
Yes Roberts have been disproved. Because of earlobes. Billy the kid has them and Bill doesn't. IT's not something you grow or lose over time so his claim was disproven.
"Brushy Bill" Roberts was almost certainly not Billy the Kid but sure, until and unless verified DNA tests occur I guess there's room to speculate. Excluding dubious witness testimony either from parties with an interest in proving Roberts was the Kid or from old men 70 years after the fact, most of the evidence we _do_ have (including from Roberts' _own family_ !?) suggests he was a different person, almost certainly born 20 years too late to be Billy. (even if we take the currently unreplicated photographic analysis entirely at face value - heh :) - it's only evidence that the two men looked alike as teenagers. Plenty of people look alike and a physical resemblance may even have inspired Roberts to make the claim. After, of course, he'd given up on his earlier claim that he rode with Jesse James !)
The real Doc Surlock died in 1929 at age 80, as Kiefer Sutherland wanted his character killed off, due to scheduling conflicts with the Sci Fi Horror Thriller FLATLINERS directed by Joel Schumacher, which I highly recommend.
And the way doc died was how charlie bowdrie died who they killed off in part 1 but the real life dave rudabaugh and tom o folliraid did die the way the movie says
Yeah it was actually Charlie bowdre who was killed at stinking spring. But they kill Charlie off in the first movie at the mcsween battle. But Charlie actually escaped the house
Scary movies usually have little effect on me. I see monsters and things as sympathetic creatures. That being said, Flatliners scared me on a primal level because it dealt with the monsters within.
Get out of here 😮 been watching YG2 since the early 90s as a kid and never knew that! Hell as a 42 yr old man, I still don't know how by most critics and Western fans despised this movie? Tombstone is a great movie, but YG & YG2 was looked down when I was growing up
Jon Bon Jovi shot the sheriff and got shot back into the pit here 7:21 Went Down in a Blaze of Glory in about 5 seconds, wrote a song about it that will last forever.
@@misunderstood781981 "Hell as a 42 yr old man, I still don't know how by most critics and Western fans despised this movie?" That is a really weird question that only you can answer..
Your memory about the first movie and Chavez and Doc surviving long into life is accurate. This movie took a lot of liberties with the real history of those characters.
historically -both Doc and Chavez survived these events. The scene where Doc died really did happen, but it was Charlie Bowdre who was killed - not Doc. Charlie - as we know - was killed at the end of the first movie the real Arkansas Dave (Christian slater) actually road with the cowboys in Tombstone during their battles with the Earps. He's the only known person to have crossed paths with both Wyatt Earp and Billy The Kid. Lou Diamond Phillips got severely injured during the pit rescue scene at the beginning when his skittish horse freaked out, bucked him off and dragged him through the streets... he broke his arm and shattered his knee cap. That's why he got the knife through the arm - to hide his broken arm.
Big props to you guys for actually watching young guns. I've been recommending these movies on many channels for about 2 years now.. just glad these films are getting the spotlight again
Alan Silvestri was a good composer. The 80's and 90's was some of his best work. Back to the Future, Who framed Roger Rabbit, Predator and his greatest work Predator 2.
Between Alan Silvestri's score & Jon Bon Jovi's songs (cameo at 7:21), this movie easily has one of the best soundtracks ever. But I think an underrated aspect is the cinematography by Dean Semler (Young Guns 1, Mad Max 2 & 3, Dances with Wolves, etc...). Shots like the one at 14:18 w/ the sunlight slowly coming in really make the film look more epic.
Michael Douglas, Kathleen Turner & Danny Devito in "ROMANCING THE STONE" is an 80's classic. Action, Comedy & Romance all in this one, I really think you guys would love it. This movie is kind of a forgotten gem from the 80's.
There is a legend that Billy did not die at the hands of Pat Garrett. Similar to the legend that Blackbeard the pirate did not die in his last battle, but survived, changed his name/appearance and lived a long life in Charleston SC. Old legends never die.
That 'Young Guns theme' piece of music that you hear throughout is SUCH a belter. It makes me so nostalgic, rewatching this through you two. Glad you had fun spotting the ABSURDLY packed cast.
The outhouse and escape happened. Nobody knows how he got the gun or out of his handcuffs. That’s where the idea of him having small wrists came from. He also shot the sheriff with his own shotgun through the window after saying “hi Bob”. Though coins weren’t used as buckshot.
So happy you guys watched this!! Its great to see younger ppl discovering Young Guns & Young Guns 2. I was 10 years old in 1988 when YG was released. Didnt see it until 89 when the VHS came out. I was 12 years old in 1990 and saw YG 2 in the theater and its always been my fave of the two films. I love 1 but 2 is one of those rare sequels that's better than the first. Emilio Estevez was born to play Billy the Kid and he owned that role!! He has always been such a talent and was lucky to have grown up during his heyday!
About 20 years ago, I was part of a team that studied the house outside of which he supposedly was killed by Garret. My role was in reviewing the newspaper accounts. The first report from a town near Fort Sumner was that a Mexican was killed with a shotgun. By a few days time, the report was that Billy had stained his skin so as to look Mexican. One problem with that theory is the guy who was buried had a full beard, and whether because of age or whatever, Billy supposedly couldn't grow a beard. This was part of an investigation, run by the sheriff of Lincoln County at the time (20 years ago; not from the 1800s), which turned up other oddities as well. So the question of whether or not Billy died that night really isn't answered. Of course the locals now all say he did, but that could be because they don't want to lose their only tourist attraction.
And that right there is how conspiracies are begun and the actual truth is hidden. You guys weren't investigating, you were looking for any reasons to keep him alive after that night and stretch out any little clue to get there. Absolute bs.
Amazing sequel Young Guns II starring Emilio Estévez, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Philips, Christian Slater and William Petersen. The music video of the film is the classic song "Blaze of Glory" single by Jon Bon Jovi. This song won a Golden Globe award for best original song. Thank you TBR Schmitt great reaction excellent👍👍
Just to add to this, Jon Bon Jovi made a cameo in the film. When the riot broke out after Billy freed Doc and Chavez the person who was shot and fell backwards into the pit was played by Bon Jovi
This movie for me personally is that rare sequel that's better than the first. Y'all were right on, you feel more for the characters in this and that makes it more personal and you feel closer to the characters. I love William Petersen's Pat Garrett in this, he's my favorite character in the movie and his story arc is so interesting. Great reaction as always! Many blessings to you and yours.
This movie was the first time I saw James Coburn, the actor who plays John Chisum. He was a great choice to take up Jack Palance's place as the man hunting Billy and the others. John Wayne actually played the same character in a movie called "Chisum", with Glenn Corbett playing Pat Garrett and Geoffrey Deuel playing Billy the Kid. It's worth checking out, even if you don't watch it for the channel.
Coburn is chock full of charisma! The earliest thing I saw him in was The Magnificent Seven. He also did a couple of films in the 60s, as a parody of James Bond, In Like Flint and Our Man Flint.
@@LordVolkov Check out a film called "Bite The Bullet". Coburn stars with Gene Hackman as two ex Rough Riders competing in a long distance horse race. Also starring Candice Bergen and Jan- Michael Vincent.
I was about 14/15 when this movie came out. If I remember correctly, Summer of '92? Either way, I was in high school and I was OBSESSED with this movie so much that I became obsessed with Billy the Kid and wanted to know EVERYTHING about him. Amazing what a good movie does for historical figures that makes a young teen interested lol. I had the movie poster on my bedroom door. I even did a book report on Pat Garrett's book (which was terrible) and even today, if the history channel brings up new evidence of Billy the Kid's life or whatever, I watch it. This movie really did a lot to spark a young teen's curiosity about a real historical figure and set me onto a path of becoming a history buff.
I remember when this first came out, there was a lot of hype. Living in a tiny town in Norway, I did not catch it at the cinema and had to wait for the VHS to come out. It was a grueling wait. Jon Bon Jovi had a smash hit with the album Blaze of Glory. All the songs on that album was based on the movie script and before some of the songs there were snippets of dialogue from the movie, which was a novelty for the time. I remember listening that album to death and imagining how cool that movie would be. The local video store only got a few copies and I had to sign up for a waiting list, so even though it finally had come out there was even more waiting. When the big day arrived my expectation was through the roof. Alas, as such things goes, the movie left me cold. It could not meet the impossible expectations of a thirteen year old who loved the first one and who's imagination had run wild listening to the movie album. My biggest gripe was the lack of continuity from the first one. Anyway, now you should see Pat Garret and Billy the Kid, with Kris Kristofferson as the Kid and James Coburn as Pat Garret. (with Bob Dylan both acting a part and contributing to the sound track (knocking on heavens door). In fact, you should consider the director Sam Peckinpah's body of work. He was a legend. Try Pat Garret and Billy the Kid, The Wild Bunch, The Getaway, Convoy, Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia, Cross of Iron. There are more, but I think those are very good jumping of points. Along with Sergio Leone, I believe Sam Peckinpah was one of the most stylistically influential directors when it comes to the modern action genre. Since you like both Sergio Leone's and Clint Eastwood's movies, Sam Peckinpah should be a good match. Apropos, Sergio Leone. You really should visit his next movies: Once upon a time in the west, Duck you sucker/A fistful of Dynamite and Once upon a time in America. Both Once upon a time in America/the West are masterpieces, but I've seen very few who ha reacted to America. America follows a group of Jewish gangsters in the 20s and 30s. I rate it alongside The Godfather. You have a lot to look forward to:-)
10:45, love James Coburn! Can't do a western without Coburn: The Magnificent Seven 1960, with Steve McQueen, Yul Brynner, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, Brad Dexter, And Horst Buchholz. I highly recommend. Maverick 1994, with Mel Gibson, James Garner Jodie Foster, Alfred Molina, Graham Greene, with cameo appearances by Danny Glover, Corey Feldman, Doug McClure, Margot Kidder, Reba MacIntyre, Art LeFleuer, Clint Black, Denver Pyle, Linda Hunt, Clint Walker, Steve Kahan, and Coburn as the Commodore. Directed By Richard Donner. Based on the TV series of the same name. I highly recommend. Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid. Directed by Sam Peckinpah, with Kris Kristofferson as Billy and Coburn as Garrett. I highly recommend.
Agree- a classic western. But the Magnificent Seven is itself based on "The Seven Samurai", voted the 7th Greatest Movie of all time. It is a 1954 film directed by legendary director Akira Kurosawa.
Love these films! especially the second one its a really amazing exploration into the saviour mentality. Thanks for watching and bringing more eyes to them!
I live and was raised in the 4 corners area. My dad took me to see this when I was like 12. Been a Billy freak ever since. If you ever get the chance, The Billy the Kid museum is too cool.
As others have pointed out, there are numerous historical discrepancies in the Billy the Kid story as depicted by the Young Guns series. Things were changed for dramatic effect and to tell the story they wanted to tell. I've been a hobbyist of Billy the Kid's story in my life, so it's always been funny when seeing what the films got right and wrong. Billy The Kid's life can be broken into two parts (like the films) with the Lincoln County War as Young Guns and his criminal activities as depicted in Young Guns II. Brushy Bill Roberts was a real person, but as the movie states, no one is sure if he really was Billy the Kid. In RL both Chavez and Doc survived the war and left for greener pastures dying of old age. The sequence of the shootout at Stinking Springs (where Doc was killed) was a real event, however Charlie Bowdre (from Young Guns) was killed in the manner as depicted in the second film. Charlie didn't die at Five-Day Battle in Lincoln as seen in the first film. Tom O'Folliard was considered by many to be the best friend Billy the Kid and was around for the events of the first film. He was not an orphan, but he did get shot by Garrett under similar cirumstances. Just the location was wrong. Hendry William French is believed to be partially based on Jim French, a Regulator who fought in the Lincoln County War and would have been there during the events of Young Guns, rather than II. After the war French left New Mexico. John Chisum was indeed a wealthy cattle baron and associate of Alexander McSween and John Tunstall. As depicted in the movie, he turned on Billy and helped persuade Garrett to hunt him down. What they got wrong was in RL, Billy and his gang did in fact steal some of his stock. All in all, I've always enjoyed these films, but I had a sense of melancholy from II, due to the fact it's not really a happy ending. And you pretty much know it going into the film. An interesting side note of the first film- Young Guns ignores James Dolan, business partner of Lawrence Murphy, (the "Dolan" of the Dolan-Murphy faction) even though he played a major role and even survived the war. Dolan died in 1898. Murphy himself (ironically) died of cancer shortly before the Lincoln County War really began, though he was also a chief instigator. Young Guns utilized him as the main villain even though he would have died before the majority of the action. Another side note- as part of my job I have driven through Fort Sumner, New Mexico several times and that's where Billy the Kid was buried. I have never stopped to visit, but it's an interesting place to visit, even if only passing through.
Young Guns 2 is still fun but the first is better without question, it's crazy that a 3rd movie is in the works and Emilo is going to direct it last I heard.
My great grand-parents lived in Hico Texas, and used to tell me that they knew Brushy Bill Roberts, who claimed to be Billy the Kid. I love this movie, and think it's even better than the first.
Fun fact: Tom is played by Balthazar Getty. He made his acting debut earlier that year in Lord of the Flies, and is part of the famous Getty family (Getty Oils / Getty Images).
I like this movie. It is about the downfall of Billy. This movie shows Billy’s worst enemy is himself. Emilio is great in this. Kiefer is really good. He is great in the Disney Three Musketeers as Athos.
We're in the shpirit wurld, *******! I gotta rewatch this entirely since I don't recall it all. Two great actors I just realized: William Petersen of CSI and the late great Scott Wilson!
Did you guys recognize the gentleman who played Governor Lew Wallace? That's Scott Wilson, a great actor who has had many roles over the years.. most of you will know one of the last bits he played- Hershel, from season 2 and 3 of the Walking Dead. RIP
And there it is, my most favourite line of all movies: 'and you can go to hell hell hell' lmfao every single time 🤣 and of course the additional cackle 🤣 You two just made my day 💕
James Coburn, who played the powerful John Chisum, also appeared in The Great Escape, which you watched recently. He was Sedgwick, the Aussie POW who made it to Spain with the help of the French Resistance.
This is a fun sequel and Emilio Esteves shines as Billy, but I always preferred the first movie. Did you know that Val Kilmer played Billy in the Billy the Kid movie based on Gore Vidal's novel? Very different performance. If you want to see a great Christian Slater movie you should react to "Pump Up The Volume" (1990).
Great reactions! You have an awesome channel. I read "The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid" by Pat Garrett years ago. Both Young Guns films are very accurate to his writing, and history. That includes those involved.
I dunno which movie (that you've not watched yet) gets closest to being similar to this but off top of my head, I'd say 'Silverado', another 80's western, the 80's was possibly the most sparse decade for Westerns but that and Pale Rider (and maybe The Long Riders) are ones from that period I hope you check out one day. Thank you so much for being a channel that shows love to the sequels and for doing this highly loved sequel.
I been to the old courthouse in Lincoln, New Mexico. Where Bell and Bob were killed. You can see the bullet hole were he shot Bell and a tombstone where Bob was shot outside. I remember being in that courthouse saying "You could go to Hell Hell Hell", people started laughing. I didn't even know people were listening! Lmao 🤣 🤣 💀
I can't remember if you've done it already, but you'd definitely enjoy The quick and the dead. Sharon Stone, Russell crow, Gene Hackman and Leonardo dicaprio.
Piece of historical trivia - Gov. Wallace who made the deal with Billy also wrote the novel Ben Hur, which was later made into a movie starring Charlton Heston.
I love watching reactions to this one. I’m always surprised that ppl are surprised by Pat Garrett’s actions in this movie. But then I remember that most ppl didn’t actually order the time life books off of the television back in the day. Someone in my family must have because I was crazy about them as a kid. I was fascinated by the concept of photographing the dead outlaws in coffins. Now I want those books back 🤷🏻♀️
I did like this sequel when it came out and still do. However, you are entirely correct about what you remember from the end of Young Guns. Continuity in stories, whether it was TV, movies or some book series ceased to matter in the 1980's. All because of the TV show "Dallas". They killed off "Bobby" played by Patrick Duffy in at the beginning of one season. Huge uproar and outrage from the fans. Beginning of the next season, Bobby was back. His death ( and the entire last season) was a dream his wife had. Outrageous, right? But, as they say now, it started a trend.
The Young Guns series is a very interesting look at figures of the 'Wild West', elevated to folk hero status by the pop culture of the times and now revered with a mix of fact and fiction. A more accurate biopic on another famous outlaw I think you two would enjoy - The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford, with Brad Pitt.
Governor Lew Wallace of New Mexico territory and of Civil War and Lincoln County War fame was the man who wrote the book " Ben Hur" which Hollywood made into two major motion pictures; one in the silent era, and of course the movie in 1959 starring Charelton Heston.
Young Guns II is the superior film in my opinion as well. Even though it's tragic, it's also very entertaining and thoroughly intriguing. Was Brushy Bill Roberts actually Billy? We'll never know. For the record, that was Emilio with age makeup. Fooled me the first time I saw it. Jon Bon Jovi was separated from his band at the point this film was made, and recorded an album of songs for it. Give them a listen. They're good.
Emilio Estevez does it again another spectacular performance for one of the most legendary American outlaws. Honestly he just killed it completely. Of course let's not Kiefer Sutherland and Lou Diamond Phillips. We got the whole gang back in the saddle again. Sorry I couldn't resist I had to go there. Let me recommend a another great classic outlaw movie Dillinger (1973).
@@LarryFleetwood8675 You're right of course Renegades was very much a low budget action movie. Robert Knepper who played Deputy James Carlyle. Also was in Renegades as the main villain.
True fact: Emilio Estevez recently confirmed that Young Guns 3 is in the works with Estevez, Lou Diamond Philips, Kiefer Sutherland and Christian Slater reprising their roles.
@Ungha Bungha yeah, and that asshole Tom Cruse or Cuss or whoever will make damn sure you follow safety protocol on COVID or you will never work in this town again EVERRRRR.
My great great grandfather Lucas Severo Gallegos and his brother Lucas Chavez Gallegos (yes they had the same first names) ran with the kid and every sorce who knew billy all say he was never killed.
One true fact about the Governor of New Mexico General Lew Wallace, he is the author of the book, Ben Hur, which was made into the classic, 1959 movie Ben Hur.
To be clear: Yes, the vast majority of this is either fiction or simply the narration of an old, confused man. Doc and Chavez both lived long lives. Dave Rudabaugh was in fact beheaded, but was actually shot and killed beforehand over an argument in a card game. Interestingly enough, Dave also knew Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday in his time. If I recall correctly, the way Bill Roberts explained his survival was that Pat actually shot a different gunslinger named Billy. Given the fact that Pat was the only person present that knew Billy the Kid, he quickly grabbed a local and asked if the man’s name was Billy. The local confirmed it and Pat collected the reward. Billy the Kid, (Bill Roberts) then used the opportunity to disappear. All that said, essentially the entire movie is told by Bill Roberts, who, as it says, was an unreliable narrator. I’m wicked glad you guys got around to seeing this and as always, love you guys and love your reactions!
Also as a side note, Jon Bon Jovi who performed the song "Blaze of Glory" for this movie, was actually in it. He was one of the guys in the pit who crawled out and got shot.
If you happen to watch it again. Fun fact. The prisoner that tries to escape in the beginning and is shot and falls back in the hole is Jon Bon Jovi. After the sequence was filmed, everyone sang shot through the heart and you're to blame. LOL. He did the entire soundtrack for this movie.
Fun reaction to this movie. Both movies definitely veer away from historical fact, they took a lot of liberties to tell their story. They mix and matched how different people died. A side note, the governor that reneged on the pardon, he wrote the book Ben-Hur. He was writing it during his time in Sante Fe. And if you remember in the first Young Guns, Billy the Kid meets Pat Garrett twice. He meets him at the New Year's Eve party at the beginning, when Pat Garrett says he and his wife have a request for the band. And the second time, he was the one that warned Billy about the ambush at the McSween house that was the climax of the first Young Guns.
Hey yo it's mostaccioli again here's a fun fact about the movie you may not know the band Bon Jovi did the theme song in this movie but Jon Bon Jovi got a cameo in this movie he was the guy who get shot and falls into the pit and flips over backwards..forgetboutit lol the screenwriter who wrote Young Guns 2 said he was inspired to write this movie after listening to Jon Bon Jovi's Wanted Dead or Alive
This story was told from the perspective of 'Brushy Bill Roberts' which is why the characters fates changed. His story was debunked by the time this movie came out and some people were annoyed because it brought up the story again and reopened the possibility that Billy had survived.
Young guns two is my favorite and then young guns won is my second favorite and then my favorite favorite favorite favorite line I'll make you famous in that damn laugh that he does in the movies in both awesome these are the movies that got me hooked on Westerns
I love how you two haven’t changed your intro format, theme music, etc. at all as the channel has grown. Perfect the way it is.
That intro theme has grown on me. It's so laid back, chill and catchy.
This is coming from a person who makes music, so you know it's pretty awesome. lol
The other great thing about the music, is, as more ppl join Patreon, they can just loop the song to any length they want to fit the credits in the outro. Shoutout to Lui Salazar!
I agree. It's simple, nice, cosy - perfect.
Sam’s Hello just seals it
Absolutely...perfect intro. 🙏❤️
If you guys want a "fun" not too serious western I recommend Maverick with Mel Gibson
And look for a little special scene between....that's all you get from me.
Agreed!
Mel Gibson might be a bit of an asshole and religious whack job, but he's definitely been in a lot of great movies!
You were right to be confused. The ending narration in the first film is read by Doc and he's talking about Billy's death, but here he's killed before Billy. What happened was, Kiefer Sutherland was only going to be available for a limited time for this shoot because of another project, and insisted he wasn't going to bother doing it unless his character could go out in a blazing gunfight. The writer and producer eventually had to yield to his request. It's historically inaccurate, but still a great scene.
Chavez, likewise, survived past Billy's death, wandering the West for a while. He almost killed Bob Ford, the man who gunned down ANOTHER Wild West legend, Jesse James, but Ford ran away. Chavez was a deputy for a while but fell back into criminal activity and died in prison.
Tom the orphan actually was one of the original Regulators but wasn't in the first film. They gave him a different story here (he was much closer to Billy's age). Tom's name is inscribed on the same headstone as Billy (along with Charlie Bowdre, who was gunned down at the end of the first movie).
Arkansas Dave Rudabaugh was kind of the Forrest Gump of the Wild West, running into a huge number of more famous or infamous names in Western history - Doc Holliday, the three Earp brothers (Wyatt, Virgil, Morgan), Bat Masterson, Curly Bill Brocius, Mysterious Dave Mather, Hoodoo Brown, and of course Billy the Kid himself. He was a bank robber, a train robber, a stagecoach robber, a gambler, a hired gun for the railroads, and was a member of several notorious Wild West gangs - the Trio, the Dodge City Gang, the Cowboys, and the Rustlers. The movie is half-right - he was killed in a gunfight in Mexico and his corpse was beheaded and his head mounted on a pike.
Brushy Bill Roberts...well, there's probably no way we'll ever know the truth of that one. Attempts to exhume the Kid's remains for DNA testing have been blocked by the courts. Photographic analysis of surviving photos of Roberts with the famous tintype of Billy holding his rifle - it's the photo used in his Wikipedia entry and the ONLY image every historian agrees was definitely Billy the Kid - seem to indicate a strong likelihood of a match. On the other hand, some acquaintances of Roberts have suggested that Roberts had first claimed he rode with Jesse James before "deciding" on the Billy the Kid story. So it will probably remain a mystery, at least until someone invents a time machine.
I believe a dated family bible disproves Brushy Bills claims of being the kid...ti.Sounds don't match
Yes Roberts have been disproved. Because of earlobes. Billy the kid has them and Bill doesn't. IT's not something you grow or lose over time so his claim was disproven.
"Brushy Bill" Roberts was almost certainly not Billy the Kid but sure, until and unless verified DNA tests occur I guess there's room to speculate. Excluding dubious witness testimony either from parties with an interest in proving Roberts was the Kid or from old men 70 years after the fact, most of the evidence we _do_ have (including from Roberts' _own family_ !?) suggests he was a different person, almost certainly born 20 years too late to be Billy.
(even if we take the currently unreplicated photographic analysis entirely at face value - heh :) - it's only evidence that the two men looked alike as teenagers. Plenty of people look alike and a physical resemblance may even have inspired Roberts to make the claim. After, of course, he'd given up on his earlier claim that he rode with Jesse James !)
@@williamshelton4318 Also back then the old west days many people died at a young age not many lived long lives back then..
Long before Brushy Bill claimed he was Billy the Kid he tried to claim he was in the James Gangs too, so I think that case is pretty clearly closed.
The real Doc Surlock died in 1929 at age 80, as Kiefer Sutherland wanted his character killed off, due to scheduling conflicts with the Sci Fi Horror Thriller FLATLINERS directed by Joel Schumacher, which I highly recommend.
Doc and Chavez both survived in real life.
And the way doc died was how charlie bowdrie died who they killed off in part 1 but the real life dave rudabaugh and tom o folliraid did die the way the movie says
True, and the real Chavez died in 1924.
Yeah it was actually Charlie bowdre who was killed at stinking spring. But they kill Charlie off in the first movie at the mcsween battle. But Charlie actually escaped the house
Scary movies usually have little effect on me. I see monsters and things as sympathetic creatures.
That being said, Flatliners scared me on a primal level because it dealt with the monsters within.
Fun fact, Jon Bon Jovi was one of the guys escaping the pit, his song Blaze of Glory was the theme song for the film.
Get out of here 😮 been watching YG2 since the early 90s as a kid and never knew that! Hell as a 42 yr old man, I still don't know how by most critics and Western fans despised this movie? Tombstone is a great movie, but YG & YG2 was looked down when I was growing up
Jon Bon Jovi shot the sheriff and got shot back into the pit here 7:21
Went Down in a Blaze of Glory in about 5 seconds, wrote a song about it that will last forever.
@@misunderstood781981 "Hell as a 42 yr old man, I still don't know how by most critics and Western fans despised this movie?"
That is a really weird question that only you can answer..
Your memory about the first movie and Chavez and Doc surviving long into life is accurate.
This movie took a lot of liberties with the real history of those characters.
historically -both Doc and Chavez survived these events. The scene where Doc died really did happen, but it was Charlie Bowdre who was killed - not Doc. Charlie - as we know - was killed at the end of the first movie
the real Arkansas Dave (Christian slater) actually road with the cowboys in Tombstone during their battles with the Earps. He's the only known person to have crossed paths with both Wyatt Earp and Billy The Kid.
Lou Diamond Phillips got severely injured during the pit rescue scene at the beginning when his skittish horse freaked out, bucked him off and dragged him through the streets... he broke his arm and shattered his knee cap. That's why he got the knife through the arm - to hide his broken arm.
My excitement was through the roof when this sequel was released. Both films are incredible and Blaze Of Glory is a song that will never get old.
Big props to you guys for actually watching young guns.
I've been recommending these movies on many channels for about 2 years now.. just glad these films are getting the spotlight again
Agreed.
Amazing Western movies.
Outstanding choice. The soundtrack is incredible. Emilio nailed this role.
soundtrack is perfect
Alan Silvestri was a good composer. The 80's and 90's was some of his best work. Back to the Future, Who framed Roger Rabbit, Predator and his greatest work Predator 2.
@@mrkwrbl "Blaze of Glory" in my opinion was Bon Jovi's best tune and video.
@@bubhub64 Don't forget the Jon part though b/c it was a solo album, w/ Jeff Beck on lead guitar.
@@jp3813 Yes, you are absolutely correct. I totally forgot that Jeff Beck played on the song.
Between Alan Silvestri's score & Jon Bon Jovi's songs (cameo at 7:21), this movie easily has one of the best soundtracks ever. But I think an underrated aspect is the cinematography by Dean Semler (Young Guns 1, Mad Max 2 & 3, Dances with Wolves, etc...). Shots like the one at 14:18 w/ the sunlight slowly coming in really make the film look more epic.
Michael Douglas, Kathleen Turner & Danny Devito in "ROMANCING THE STONE" is an 80's classic. Action, Comedy & Romance all in this one, I really think you guys would love it. This movie is kind of a forgotten gem from the 80's.
I grew up watching "Romancing the Stone" and I still Love it today!
And the sequel Jewel of the nile
@@andymc96 yeah, if we can just get them to watch the first one they’ll want to see the sequel.
@@tomhoffman4330 The movie doesn’t seem to get much attention today. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone react to this movie.
@@utcnc7mm I have seen a few Reactions to it, mostly from smaller Channels...I think one of them was Ashleigh Burton's.
There is a legend that Billy did not die at the hands of Pat Garrett.
Similar to the legend that Blackbeard the pirate did not die in his last battle, but survived, changed his name/appearance and lived a long life in Charleston SC.
Old legends never die.
You seem to know your stuff...Bravo!
Now we have to do more Christian Slater movies... Heathers, Pump Up The Volume
I recommended Heather's to someone today
Untamed Heart
Murder in the First is really good too, but definitely a dark movie.
Kuffs.
@@PaperbackWizard I couldn't in good conscience recommend Kuffs. There's too many movies that are much better for them to react to.
That 'Young Guns theme' piece of music that you hear throughout is SUCH a belter. It makes me so nostalgic, rewatching this through you two. Glad you had fun spotting the ABSURDLY packed cast.
The outhouse and escape happened. Nobody knows how he got the gun or out of his handcuffs. That’s where the idea of him having small wrists came from. He also shot the sheriff with his own shotgun through the window after saying “hi Bob”. Though coins weren’t used as buckshot.
Scott Wilson played the Governor...also played Hershel from Walking Dead
So happy you guys watched this!! Its great to see younger ppl discovering Young Guns & Young Guns 2. I was 10 years old in 1988 when YG was released. Didnt see it until 89 when the VHS came out. I was 12 years old in 1990 and saw YG 2 in the theater and its always been my fave of the two films. I love 1 but 2 is one of those rare sequels that's better than the first. Emilio Estevez was born to play Billy the Kid and he owned that role!! He has always been such a talent and was lucky to have grown up during his heyday!
I’m assuming you guys may have recognized Alan Ruck as Cameron from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off .. and you’re correct, this cast is absolutelystacked!! 🎉
Including Jon Bon Jovi himself in one of his earlier acting roles.
@@MrLovegrove Yes, hardly recognizable as a thug getting shot.
Apparently the "Hello Bob!" "Goodbye Bob!" was actually said by Billy in his escape.
About 20 years ago, I was part of a team that studied the house outside of which he supposedly was killed by Garret. My role was in reviewing the newspaper accounts. The first report from a town near Fort Sumner was that a Mexican was killed with a shotgun. By a few days time, the report was that Billy had stained his skin so as to look Mexican. One problem with that theory is the guy who was buried had a full beard, and whether because of age or whatever, Billy supposedly couldn't grow a beard.
This was part of an investigation, run by the sheriff of Lincoln County at the time (20 years ago; not from the 1800s), which turned up other oddities as well. So the question of whether or not Billy died that night really isn't answered. Of course the locals now all say he did, but that could be because they don't want to lose their only tourist attraction.
And that right there is how conspiracies are begun and the actual truth is hidden. You guys weren't investigating, you were looking for any reasons to keep him alive after that night and stretch out any little clue to get there. Absolute bs.
@@basquat76 so why were they denied using his family dna to compare with the corpse? they said they did not want to dig him up or something
@@Belnick6666 Dig who up? What are you talking about?
@@basquat76 there's plenty of evidence for you to look up. A lot that points to Billy not dying that night
Theres a theory he was an inbred and judging from his only photo that might be true
Amazing sequel Young Guns II starring Emilio Estévez, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Philips, Christian Slater and William Petersen. The music video of the film is the classic song "Blaze of Glory" single by Jon Bon Jovi. This song won a Golden Globe award for best original song. Thank you TBR Schmitt great reaction excellent👍👍
Just to add to this, Jon Bon Jovi made a cameo in the film. When the riot broke out after Billy freed Doc and Chavez the person who was shot and fell backwards into the pit was played by Bon Jovi
@@medaugh That's right👍👍
i was10 years old in 1990. this one one of the first rock records I ever got...
@@penoyer79 Cool
This movie for me personally is that rare sequel that's better than the first.
Y'all were right on, you feel more for the characters in this and that makes it more personal and you feel closer to the characters.
I love William Petersen's Pat Garrett in this, he's my favorite character in the movie and his story arc is so interesting.
Great reaction as always!
Many blessings to you and yours.
You may not remember but Pat Garret was also in the first movie but was portrayed by Patrick Wayne ( son of John Wayne).
This movie was the first time I saw James Coburn, the actor who plays John Chisum. He was a great choice to take up Jack Palance's place as the man hunting Billy and the others. John Wayne actually played the same character in a movie called "Chisum", with Glenn Corbett playing Pat Garrett and Geoffrey Deuel playing Billy the Kid. It's worth checking out, even if you don't watch it for the channel.
Coburn is a icon of classic Westerns, but I know him first from Maverick 😅
@@LordVolkov Oooh, Maverick would be a great one for them to watch, especially now that they've seen the Lethal Weapon movies.
James Coburn also played Pat Garrett in Sam Peckinpah's classic Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid with Kris Kristofferson as Billy
Coburn is chock full of charisma! The earliest thing I saw him in was The Magnificent Seven. He also did a couple of films in the 60s, as a parody of James Bond, In Like Flint and Our Man Flint.
@@LordVolkov Check out a film called "Bite The Bullet". Coburn stars with Gene Hackman as two ex Rough Riders competing in a long distance horse race. Also starring Candice Bergen and Jan- Michael Vincent.
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I was about 14/15 when this movie came out. If I remember correctly, Summer of '92? Either way, I was in high school and I was OBSESSED with this movie so much that I became obsessed with Billy the Kid and wanted to know EVERYTHING about him. Amazing what a good movie does for historical figures that makes a young teen interested lol. I had the movie poster on my bedroom door. I even did a book report on Pat Garrett's book (which was terrible) and even today, if the history channel brings up new evidence of Billy the Kid's life or whatever, I watch it. This movie really did a lot to spark a young teen's curiosity about a real historical figure and set me onto a path of becoming a history buff.
Thanks I love your story it's very inspiring to hear how much of an impact the films have had on your life.
Another great western is Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid with Robert Redford and Paul Newman.
I remember when this first came out, there was a lot of hype. Living in a tiny town in Norway, I did not catch it at the cinema and had to wait for the VHS to come out. It was a grueling wait. Jon Bon Jovi had a smash hit with the album Blaze of Glory. All the songs on that album was based on the movie script and before some of the songs there were snippets of dialogue from the movie, which was a novelty for the time. I remember listening that album to death and imagining how cool that movie would be. The local video store only got a few copies and I had to sign up for a waiting list, so even though it finally had come out there was even more waiting. When the big day arrived my expectation was through the roof. Alas, as such things goes, the movie left me cold. It could not meet the impossible expectations of a thirteen year old who loved the first one and who's imagination had run wild listening to the movie album. My biggest gripe was the lack of continuity from the first one. Anyway, now you should see Pat Garret and Billy the Kid, with Kris Kristofferson as the Kid and James Coburn as Pat Garret. (with Bob Dylan both acting a part and contributing to the sound track (knocking on heavens door). In fact, you should consider the director Sam Peckinpah's body of work. He was a legend. Try Pat Garret and Billy the Kid, The Wild Bunch, The Getaway, Convoy, Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia, Cross of Iron. There are more, but I think those are very good jumping of points. Along with Sergio Leone, I believe Sam Peckinpah was one of the most stylistically influential directors when it comes to the modern action genre. Since you like both Sergio Leone's and Clint Eastwood's movies, Sam Peckinpah should be a good match. Apropos, Sergio Leone. You really should visit his next movies: Once upon a time in the west, Duck you sucker/A fistful of Dynamite and Once upon a time in America. Both Once upon a time in America/the West are masterpieces, but I've seen very few who ha reacted to America. America follows a group of Jewish gangsters in the 20s and 30s. I rate it alongside The Godfather. You have a lot to look forward to:-)
Thanks Guy!! This is AWESOME stuff!!
10:45, love James Coburn! Can't do a western without Coburn:
The Magnificent Seven 1960, with Steve McQueen, Yul Brynner, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, Brad Dexter, And Horst Buchholz. I highly recommend.
Maverick 1994, with Mel Gibson, James Garner Jodie Foster, Alfred Molina, Graham Greene, with cameo appearances by Danny Glover, Corey Feldman, Doug McClure, Margot Kidder, Reba MacIntyre, Art LeFleuer, Clint Black, Denver Pyle, Linda Hunt, Clint Walker, Steve Kahan, and Coburn as the Commodore. Directed By Richard Donner. Based on the TV series of the same name. I highly recommend.
Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid. Directed by Sam Peckinpah, with Kris Kristofferson as Billy and Coburn as Garrett. I highly recommend.
Don't say one of the cameos, you're spoiling it
Agree- a classic western. But the Magnificent Seven is itself based on "The Seven Samurai", voted the 7th Greatest Movie of all time. It is a 1954 film directed by legendary director Akira Kurosawa.
Love these films! especially the second one its a really amazing exploration into the saviour mentality. Thanks for watching and bringing more eyes to them!
I live and was raised in the 4 corners area. My dad took me to see this when I was like 12. Been a Billy freak ever since. If you ever get the chance, The Billy the Kid museum is too cool.
FYI, the guy that got shot and fell back into the pit in Lincoln was Jon Bon Jovi
As others have pointed out, there are numerous historical discrepancies in the Billy the Kid story as depicted by the Young Guns series. Things were changed for dramatic effect and to tell the story they wanted to tell. I've been a hobbyist of Billy the Kid's story in my life, so it's always been funny when seeing what the films got right and wrong.
Billy The Kid's life can be broken into two parts (like the films) with the Lincoln County War as Young Guns and his criminal activities as depicted in Young Guns II. Brushy Bill Roberts was a real person, but as the movie states, no one is sure if he really was Billy the Kid.
In RL both Chavez and Doc survived the war and left for greener pastures dying of old age. The sequence of the shootout at Stinking Springs (where Doc was killed) was a real event, however Charlie Bowdre (from Young Guns) was killed in the manner as depicted in the second film. Charlie didn't die at Five-Day Battle in Lincoln as seen in the first film.
Tom O'Folliard was considered by many to be the best friend Billy the Kid and was around for the events of the first film. He was not an orphan, but he did get shot by Garrett under similar cirumstances. Just the location was wrong.
Hendry William French is believed to be partially based on Jim French, a Regulator who fought in the Lincoln County War and would have been there during the events of Young Guns, rather than II. After the war French left New Mexico.
John Chisum was indeed a wealthy cattle baron and associate of Alexander McSween and John Tunstall. As depicted in the movie, he turned on Billy and helped persuade Garrett to hunt him down. What they got wrong was in RL, Billy and his gang did in fact steal some of his stock.
All in all, I've always enjoyed these films, but I had a sense of melancholy from II, due to the fact it's not really a happy ending. And you pretty much know it going into the film.
An interesting side note of the first film- Young Guns ignores James Dolan, business partner of Lawrence Murphy, (the "Dolan" of the Dolan-Murphy faction) even though he played a major role and even survived the war. Dolan died in 1898. Murphy himself (ironically) died of cancer shortly before the Lincoln County War really began, though he was also a chief instigator. Young Guns utilized him as the main villain even though he would have died before the majority of the action.
Another side note- as part of my job I have driven through Fort Sumner, New Mexico several times and that's where Billy the Kid was buried. I have never stopped to visit, but it's an interesting place to visit, even if only passing through.
Young Guns 2 is still fun but the first is better without question, it's crazy that a 3rd movie is in the works and Emilo is going to direct it last I heard.
I agree wholeheartedly on all points.
Hopefully you get around to Butch Cassidy & Sundance Kid at some point. Classic oldie.
"The Outlaw Josey Wales" and "Jeremiah Johnson" are two of the greatest westerns of all time.
I really love the Chavez death scene; even though he and Billy fought a lot, Chavez still didn't want his friend to see him die.
My great grand-parents lived in Hico Texas, and used to tell me that they knew Brushy Bill Roberts, who claimed to be Billy the Kid. I love this movie, and think it's even better than the first.
Just did a search to see if anyone reacted to this lately.... what a nice surprise lol. Thanks guys!
Alan Silvestri's score is fantastic.
Billy's escape. The "Best $1.80 I ever spent" scene really happened
mostly happened, it's still disputed what he really shouted to get Bob to look up
Emillio and Charlie Sheen did a funny film called "Men at Work" very underated! worth checking out : )
Loved that movie! Especially the high five with the trash can lids.🤣👌
Yup gotta love it
Fun fact: Tom is played by Balthazar Getty. He made his acting debut earlier that year in Lord of the Flies, and is part of the famous Getty family (Getty Oils / Getty Images).
William Peterson, who played Pat Garrett, went on to play Gil Grissom on the TV show CSI.
I like this movie. It is about the downfall of Billy. This movie shows Billy’s worst enemy is himself. Emilio is great in this. Kiefer is really good. He is great in the Disney Three Musketeers as Athos.
We're in the shpirit wurld, *******! I gotta rewatch this entirely since I don't recall it all. Two great actors I just realized: William Petersen of CSI and the late great Scott Wilson!
Did you guys recognize the gentleman who played Governor Lew Wallace? That's Scott Wilson, a great actor who has had many roles over the years.. most of you will know one of the last bits he played- Hershel, from season 2 and 3 of the Walking Dead. RIP
Great show, well worth reacting to also, some of the most exciting cliffhanger scenes ever in episodic television history.
If you guys do more Emilio Estevez movies, I recommend the "Mighty Ducks" trilogy if you haven't seen them already.
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Should do Stakeout, even Wisdom is a great underrated movie he wrote and directed and starred with then partner Demi Moore
Stakeout - first priority.
@@MrKINSM I agree, Stakeout (1987) is a must also Judgment Night (1993) is damn good.
Men at Work!
And there it is, my most favourite line of all movies: 'and you can go to hell hell hell' lmfao every single time 🤣 and of course the additional cackle 🤣
You two just made my day 💕
In real life Billy actually said that
@@rxtsec1 Hahaha .... Thats pure Gold, Gold, Gold!!!
James Coburn, who played the powerful John Chisum, also appeared in The Great Escape, which you watched recently. He was Sedgwick, the Aussie POW who made it to Spain with the help of the French Resistance.
This is a fun sequel and Emilio Esteves shines as Billy, but I always preferred the first movie. Did you know that Val Kilmer played Billy in the Billy the Kid movie based on Gore Vidal's novel? Very different performance. If you want to see a great Christian Slater movie you should react to "Pump Up The Volume" (1990).
Great reactions! You have an awesome channel. I read "The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid" by Pat Garrett years ago. Both Young Guns films are very accurate to his writing, and history. That includes those involved.
Another great Emilio Estevez movie is Stakeout with Richard Dreyfus ( Jaws , Close Encounters of the Third Kind ) well worth a review from you guys
I dunno which movie (that you've not watched yet) gets closest to being similar to this but off top of my head, I'd say 'Silverado', another 80's western, the 80's was possibly the most sparse decade for Westerns but that and Pale Rider (and maybe The Long Riders) are ones from that period I hope you check out one day. Thank you so much for being a channel that shows love to the sequels and for doing this highly loved sequel.
Three westerns for ya:
The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
Open Range (2003)
Maverick (1994)
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Great reactions, your both amazing reactors! Ok my 2 cents...PALE RIDER. Another really good western starring Clint Eastwood.
Pale Rider is good, but I prefer The Outlaw Josey Wales a bit more.
@@athos1974 Well we all have our favorites.
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@@athos1974 And I agree...Josie Wales is fantastic! Great film by Eastwood!
That or the Three Amigos.
Lew Wallace, the NM Governor who promised to pardon Billy was a Union General during the Civil War, also wrote Ben Hur, a Tale of the Christ.
I been to the old courthouse in Lincoln, New Mexico. Where Bell and Bob were killed. You can see the bullet hole were he shot Bell and a tombstone where Bob was shot outside. I remember being in that courthouse saying "You could go to Hell Hell Hell", people started laughing. I didn't even know people were listening! Lmao 🤣 🤣 💀
I can't remember if you've done it already, but you'd definitely enjoy The quick and the dead. Sharon Stone, Russell crow, Gene Hackman and Leonardo dicaprio.
Piece of historical trivia - Gov. Wallace who made the deal with Billy also wrote the novel Ben Hur, which was later made into a movie starring Charlton Heston.
I love watching reactions to this one. I’m always surprised that ppl are surprised by Pat Garrett’s actions in this movie. But then I remember that most ppl didn’t actually order the time life books off of the television back in the day. Someone in my family must have because I was crazy about them as a kid. I was fascinated by the concept of photographing the dead outlaws in coffins. Now I want those books back 🤷🏻♀️
I did like this sequel when it came out and still do. However, you are entirely correct about what you remember from the end of Young Guns. Continuity in stories, whether it was TV, movies or some book series ceased to matter in the 1980's. All because of the TV show "Dallas". They killed off "Bobby" played by Patrick Duffy in at the beginning of one season. Huge uproar and outrage from the fans. Beginning of the next season, Bobby was back. His death ( and the entire last season) was a dream his wife had. Outrageous, right? But, as they say now, it started a trend.
The Young Guns series is a very interesting look at figures of the 'Wild West', elevated to folk hero status by the pop culture of the times and now revered with a mix of fact and fiction.
A more accurate biopic on another famous outlaw I think you two would enjoy - The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford, with Brad Pitt.
Governor Lew Wallace of New Mexico territory and of Civil War and Lincoln County War fame was the man who wrote the book " Ben Hur" which Hollywood made into two major motion pictures; one in the silent era, and of course the movie in 1959 starring Charelton Heston.
7:58,Billy is just messing with Doc. Lol!
Solid review. Thank you for presenting YOUNG GUNS II in the correct Panavision widescreen aspect ratio.
Yessssssss!!! Gotta go watch the Blaze Of Glory music video now!
Young Guns II is the superior film in my opinion as well. Even though it's tragic, it's also very entertaining and thoroughly intriguing. Was Brushy Bill Roberts actually Billy? We'll never know. For the record, that was Emilio with age makeup. Fooled me the first time I saw it. Jon Bon Jovi was separated from his band at the point this film was made, and recorded an album of songs for it. Give them a listen. They're good.
The Governor Lew Wallace was a General in the Civil War and also wrote the book Ben Hur
You've GOT to watch the movie "Stake Out" with Emilio Estevez and Richard Dreyfes. I'm positive you'll love it!
Your next western movie should be, The Wild Bunch (1969). It's a great film.
3:43 The real Billy The Kid was actually bold enough to meet with the governor in real life. It went exactly how you'd expect it to go
Great movie. I also like this one better than the first. Full of memorable lines and moments, looks great and love the Alan Silvestry score.
Emilio will make ya famous 😜
I really like the Quick and the Dead, hope thats the next western
10:23, lol!! "The Prince of Pennsylvania."
Brushy Bill Roberts, was not in fact, NOT Billy The Kid, he just wanted to be noticed by spreading tall tales about being the famous outlaw.
Reminds me of my hometown, every time I watch these movies. Right where I used to live in New Mexico. Opening scene is White Sands National Monyment.
Emilio Estevez does it again another spectacular performance for one of the most legendary American outlaws. Honestly he just killed it completely. Of course let's not Kiefer Sutherland and Lou Diamond Phillips. We got the whole gang back in the saddle again. Sorry I couldn't resist I had to go there. Let me recommend a another great classic outlaw movie Dillinger (1973).
Kiefer and Lou also made the underrated Renegades (1989), buddy action movie at the time touted as a YG sequel of sorts which of course was nonsense.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 You're right of course Renegades was very much a low budget action movie. Robert Knepper who played Deputy James Carlyle. Also was in Renegades as the main villain.
@@vincecommando7575 That's right, forgot about him. He was great on Prison Break (2005 -17), would make a good reaction show too.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Robert Knepper is one of my favorite actors. He does villains very well.
True fact: Emilio Estevez recently confirmed that Young Guns 3 is in the works with Estevez, Lou Diamond Philips, Kiefer Sutherland and Christian Slater reprising their roles.
Hope we get another Tom Cruise cameo.
No way!! Get outta here really! Would be awesome!!
@@genghisgalahad8465 Yup. The working title is "Young Guns: Alias Billy the Kid"
@@st0n3p0ny Or a Jon Bon Jovi cameo.
@Ungha Bungha yeah, and that asshole Tom Cruse or Cuss or whoever will make damn sure you follow safety protocol on COVID or you will never work in this town again EVERRRRR.
My great great grandfather Lucas Severo Gallegos and his brother Lucas Chavez Gallegos (yes they had the same first names) ran with the kid and every sorce who knew billy all say he was never killed.
5:33, that was a cute clap, Samantha.😂
9:20, Doc needed time ,all right, when he saw that mob coming towards him. Lol!!
Sounds like you are grooving on Westerns...if you need a good western show to react to you both should check out Deadwood. It is amazing!
"D'you see the siiiiiize of that chicken !?!?!" I was saying this almost every day as a kid haha
One true fact about the Governor of New Mexico General Lew Wallace, he is the author of the book, Ben Hur, which was made into the classic, 1959 movie Ben Hur.
To be clear: Yes, the vast majority of this is either fiction or simply the narration of an old, confused man. Doc and Chavez both lived long lives. Dave Rudabaugh was in fact beheaded, but was actually shot and killed beforehand over an argument in a card game. Interestingly enough, Dave also knew Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday in his time.
If I recall correctly, the way Bill Roberts explained his survival was that Pat actually shot a different gunslinger named Billy. Given the fact that Pat was the only person present that knew Billy the Kid, he quickly grabbed a local and asked if the man’s name was Billy. The local confirmed it and Pat collected the reward. Billy the Kid, (Bill Roberts) then used the opportunity to disappear.
All that said, essentially the entire movie is told by Bill Roberts, who, as it says, was an unreliable narrator. I’m wicked glad you guys got around to seeing this and as always, love you guys and love your reactions!
Also as a side note, Jon Bon Jovi who performed the song "Blaze of Glory" for this movie, was actually in it. He was one of the guys in the pit who crawled out and got shot.
The next western should be
"3:10 To Yuma", starring Russell Crowe.
Appaloosa is a great Vigo film. Open Range and 3:10 to Yuma. The Magnificent 7.
Fun fact: the guy with long hair that Bob shoots back into the pit, during the pit breakout, is a Jon Bon Jovi cameo.
If you happen to watch it again. Fun fact. The prisoner that tries to escape in the beginning and is shot and falls back in the hole is Jon Bon Jovi. After the sequence was filmed, everyone sang shot through the heart and you're to blame. LOL. He did the entire soundtrack for this movie.
Fun reaction to this movie. Both movies definitely veer away from historical fact, they took a lot of liberties to tell their story. They mix and matched how different people died. A side note, the governor that reneged on the pardon, he wrote the book Ben-Hur. He was writing it during his time in Sante Fe. And if you remember in the first Young Guns, Billy the Kid meets Pat Garrett twice. He meets him at the New Year's Eve party at the beginning, when Pat Garrett says he and his wife have a request for the band. And the second time, he was the one that warned Billy about the ambush at the McSween house that was the climax of the first Young Guns.
Hey yo it's mostaccioli again here's a fun fact about the movie you may not know the band Bon Jovi did the theme song in this movie but Jon Bon Jovi got a cameo in this movie he was the guy who get shot and falls into the pit and flips over backwards..forgetboutit lol the screenwriter who wrote Young Guns 2 said he was inspired to write this movie after listening to Jon Bon Jovi's Wanted Dead or Alive
Christian slater is absolutely great in "MOBSTERS"!!! ITs a great movie
ALIVE, 1993. The Andes survival story would be a a great movie to react to. I finally read the book.
This story was told from the perspective of 'Brushy Bill Roberts' which is why the characters fates changed. His story was debunked by the time this movie came out and some people were annoyed because it brought up the story again and reopened the possibility that Billy had survived.
There's plenty of evidence. It's not debunked. Just a government and city state who doesn't want to risk its tourism dollars.
Young guns two is my favorite and then young guns won is my second favorite and then my favorite favorite favorite favorite line I'll make you famous in that damn laugh that he does in the movies in both awesome these are the movies that got me hooked on Westerns
Hope you two are having an great and awesome weekend ❤️