it's weird if you think about it, there is no contact with earth for 30 years, originally should be 120 years if nothing went wrong, what value does money even have? are the same currency still used? i think it would be pretty pointless for the ship to charge for its services in the proverbial middle of nowhere of the universe
I had never noticed that before, but I think that might have been the joke. Some people don't want to dress up too much because they think they look too pretentious.
@@WildaTheDog it would depend on what time they are going off of, if it's 120 years in avalon's frame of reference, at 2/3 light speed, it would mean a gamma factor of roughly 1.33, so the distance is contracted by 1.33, i think the actual distance would be 120 * 2/3c * 1.33 = ~105 light years if they are instead traveling at 1/2 light speed, gamma factor is roughly 1.1547, so real distance is around 120 * 1/2c * 1.1547 = ~69 light years special relativity is weird
@@UnexpectedTokens If only the ship could go sth like 0.995c, time dialation would make the trip lasts like a few years from their perspective. And anyone who wakes up early wouldn’t have to wait very long at all.
If they even reply after 19 years and Jim won’t receive that message at the earliest in 55 years, if the company is even still around anymore a millennia later they won’t be able to file a lawsuit against them. It would be like me suing George Washington for chopping down a cherry tree on land that I just purchased yesterday, too much time has passed and poor George is not really fit enough anymore to go to court, unless the legal system is allowing ghost to stand trial in the future.
People dunk on this movie but I enjoyed it a lot and have seen it many times. I like the way the message returning from earth will take 36 years rather than 19 because the ship will have moved even further away.
Now that you think about it... Jim was an mechanical engineer. My theory is - it was not a malfunction that woke him up after collision, but rather the ship's AI itself because it knew some prpblems can not be fixed through AI alone. So Jim was woken up so one day he could help maintain and fix the ship.
'Maybe' it happened on purpose? 😉The ship 'knew' it needed a technician! On the info-screen of his pod it said he was a mechanical engineer btw.... 00:52 "Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.... or the one"😉
@@knutritter461 no man If the ship actually knew it needed fixing, it would have woken up the crew I.e captain or more qualified engineers, not some under qualified passenger not knowing what the fuck is going on. The ship doesn’t have a conscience to understand that Waking up one guy is eventually more beneficial than waking up a bunch of people. It simply malfunctioned
@@davidtouzani2107 In have done linear optimization in operations research as well. You can teach an AI to minimize costs and maximize yield... in this case costs means death sentences and yield means people actually arriving alive. In the info box of his pod it did not say he was simply a technician. He was labled as a mechanical engineer.
@@knutritter461 The error screens in the sequence starting at 0:16 clearly shows his pod was one of the things damaged. It couldn't be repaired, so he was awakened instead.
I can top that , at 10 years of age I decided that I wanted to learn to free climb and not only taught myself but also taught myself to prospect routes up a cliff in order to climb successfully I also found out that fear wasn't a friend so I burnt the fear out even today when I am in a dangerous situation my mind speeds up to give me an edge to deal with the danger ......just saying.......
There was that crappy Sci fi movie with Bruce Willis called anti life, where they're on their way to a new home planet, but some creature from earth hitchiked on board and started using all the passengers as hosts.
This movie had so much potential. The order should have been: Guy wakes girl up and says that because of an error or glitch they art the only ones awake. The story between the two continues. Then after a while we cut to this scene and we along with the girl find out the horrible truth. We the audience would have been fooled too.
Wrong, it's shown from his perspective so they can end up together. Shown from the girls perspective would mean they are not trying to show his plight and rationalize his decision and make it sympathetic
The fact that he woke up the girl and then lied to her ruined the movie. Instead of just enjoying the show, I spent way too much time dreading the moment when she found out the truth.
@@Langkowski cause your a moron it's a movie the point was for him to wake her up to show how humans cannot survive long term alone like that which is why even Nasa does not do the lone wolf thing with astronauts
imho, this was such an underappreciated film. yes, it had 2 of the biggest names in Hollywood, but it definitely wasn't talked about as much as it should have been. this may be one of the best movies I've seen - the plot, the suspense, the thrill, it was SUCH a great film! I'd even go as far as saying it's one of my favorite movies! I wish Netflix had it, I'd rewatch it so many times.
The problem is everybody can see that they had a grade A movie on there hands here (like cult classic status) and instead of running with the horror/scifi/time aspects they just said F it lets just do a weird romcom.
Of all the possible Passengers to awake accidentally a Mechanical Engineer is awoken who then wakes a another who is a Writer. One to save the ship and one to make sure everyone knows for perpetuity.
@@mbaxter22 Really? Aww. I'll give you a little excerpt then: It was relief, after nearly being hauled out the air lock, that two incubated travellers hadn't risen with the rest of them. Turns out waking up hadn't been the worst case scenario after all. He could have had his food supply cut or his oxygen depleted like those poor suckers. What it did mean, however, was that there was something wrong with the ship and now that everyone knew, all hell was breaking loose...
how? what good would it have done to wake up all the other passengers besides kill them all? please pretty please explain how that would work because you forget he was still locked out of the crew cryo pod room so he couldn't wake them up GUS only woke up because of his pod failing like JIMS pod failed so please explain how waking up all the passengers would have accomplished anything
That's what I think, now after watching a bunch of these clips (sought in the theater and is one of my favorite films of all time). Of course since this movie, we've now made strides in creating robot situations that can manipulate things like humans, such as the Tesla Optimus, etc. one way or another, AI & mechanical contrivances should have been able to repair the issue just as well as Jim and Aurora. That said, still a GREAT movie!!
Pandorum is a 2008 horror/thirller movie like this one, except the protagonists are not the first ones to wake up prematurely. Hits a lot of the notes that people in these comments are asking for.
I really wish we got a reaction from people on Earth when his message arrived there. At first they think it is a prank or something and then the reality hits and the poor customer support people have to kick it up corporate ladder while having no idea why it happened or what is the status of the ship...
I thought he didn't actually send the message because it was so expensive. Idk. I wouldn't have because I would have been thinking exactly what you said, what are they supposed to do except feel bad?
I thought the movie ended early. I would have like to have seen the reactions of the passengers and crew when they all wake up and see what happened. Maybe they left a message to everyone or what if they had kids who greeted them at 80 years old..?
@@PRh-cw6lg it's heavily implied that they actually had kids, because he found a medical specialist for this task among the passengers and they had the medical tube unlocked for them so they could wake up a doctor every time for a safe delivery and put them back to sleep.
I’ve seen a few people commenting other stuff.But for me, I honestly don’t mind how this film started. These days,not many movies start with a view of space with a dramatic score. I’m pretty sure the first time I ever saw this movie was in 2021. I related a lot to Chris Pratt’s character back then. In fact I kinda still do. I wish I was friends with Chris Pratt. I’ve known Chris Pratt since 2014 and he’s a son of God…
I love this movie and wouldn't want it changed at all. You're supposed to see things from Jim's point of view, see how he's a good person, watch him devolve due to loneliness until he's almost suicidal. Even then, he's so hesitant to wake someone to suffer his own fate, and when he finally does, he hates himself for doing it. What a great movie.
What’s eerie about this movie to me is that another entity may have woken CP just to attempt saving the entire ship. Which happened. However we get muted in his perceived selfishness throughout the w tire thing we forget to ask why him.
Wouldn't it wake up one of the crew who actually knows how to fix the ship and has access to its controls, rather than a passenger with an engineering background who doesn't have that access? His pod malfunctioning seems like a random thing. Like pulling the horror version of a lottery ticket, basically.
@@Xylarxcode True, but the AI welcomer mentions it when they state he was preselected for the engineering wing. Perhaps wake him up to keep the more valuable and operators asleep for the years they had left. Throw his life away for the small shot to attempt to salvage the mission. Who knows
@@rztricky Except the ship/AI had no way of knowing how serious the malfunction was and that it would eventually take two of them to fix it. You can speculate until you are blue in the face or you can just go by what the movie presented and that it was just an accident. Don't know why people take such deep dives into this searching for some other explanation. And don't forget that a major complaint many people had was the fact that he woke up Aurora intentionally without any regard for her life. But in the end it proved that without both of them awake, over 5,000 people would have died.
All of that speculation aside, the AI should have immediately recognized there was a problem when a passenger was awake at this point in the trip. There should have been protocol that woke a crew member in the event of that scenario. The reality is that it wasn't in place because "hibernation failure was impossible" so it was ignored. But even we set aside the hubris of that assumption, that protocol should have been in place for security purposes alone. Someone waking up either by accident or with nefarious purpose puts 5000 lives at stake.
Gall imagine sending a message and it will be received in 19 years with a reply in 55 years. Gives a new meaning to snail mail. This whole movie was a interesting experiment in wtf would you do. And yeah its pretty clear at 0:19 - 1:16 why he was allowed to wake up while the other pods were repaired. I like how the movie gave us the thought experiment but never clearly stated why he was woke up and no one else was. He was a engineer, and poor. So he was expendable on the new colony but could maybe fix the ship since it was damaged without sacrificing the crew who wouldn't live to the new colony.
I've heard Jennifer Lawrence saying how she regretted making this movie. I think she's being hard on the film. It's not a great movie, but there are PLENTY worse. If this is the movie she regrets, then she's had a pretty darn good career so far.
The problem I have with this concept is it implies that no one ever considered that one of those beds would fail. First of all The ship would know where it is and realize it's not where it's supposed to be. That would almost certainly trigger a contingent of the crew to be awakened to take care of the trouble. Finally there's not a single spare bed anywhere on the ship? That's ridiculous.
Ikr, im an aerospace engineer, and in my experience, everything is overdone. There is just simply no way no one thought to plan for a malfunction, resulting in someone waking up early. Even if it has never happened before.
So my question is, was his awakening HAPPENSTANCE or did the ship's computer CHOOSE him based on skills, psych makeup, personality, etc, etc, as the most likely to be able to repair the ship?
Saw someone suggest he's most likely to fix and also just someone they can throw away , no point waisting a top boss engineer who might be vital for construction of the colony, just throw use a grunt
Seems like random chance to me, that flickering before his pod malfunctioned didn't seem like he was specifically chosen for the task. Jim having an engineering background was just a coincidence.
Couldn't those passengers just go back to hibernation after waking up? If yes then it doesn't matter waking up the expert engineer crew who have access to its mechanics etc.
@@dallasyap3064 apparently they need special equipment that arent available to them on the ship, the hibernstion pods can only continue and end the hibernation process, but not start it.
Strangest part of this sequence is that it's established that the entire crew and passenger list are in cryosleep. There's not a single person awake. The whole ship is on self-managing autopilot. ...but for some reason when it needs to reroute power to the asteroid shield, it leaves all the lights and monitors on.
Biggest problem was the psychological drama to bad action genre swap at the end. The movie itself was a risk every step of the way for the writers. To start, writing a scifi? Those RARELY get greenlit and just as rarely look good, choosing that setting was an enormous gamble. Writing a character who will have to act off themselves for the majority of the film... BIG RISK! And making the lead do something utterly detestable but try to make them likeable despite this... Risk. There was also some subject matter that was a risky inclusion with them being touchy subjects (looking at you attempted suicide scene). No, I can't agree with your assessment less.
Think on this. What if you started the movie when Aurora wakes up and what happened with Jim is a mystery that we get to discover along with her. The tone of the scene when they first meet is completely different and unsettling. The big reveal is as shocking to us as to her. Just think on it.
How is there still food left on the ship? Nobody ever brings this up. The passengers were set to wake up a month before they land, which means they would’ve needed a month’s worth of food for everybody, but Chris and Jennifer were alive in the ship for almost 90 years, which means they would’ve needed 90 years worth of food, which means those 2 alone would’ve used up all that food and water that was meant for everyone when they wake up. They might’ve even died sooner because they ran out and they literally would’ve left nothing for the rest.
There was 5000 passengers. I'm Sure they would have stored enough food for more than 30 days. In fact, about 60-70 years for 2 passengers shouldn't have put much of a dent in the total supply. Not likey they would be pigs and eat crazy amounts..
It's programmed to wake up all passengers 4 months before they arrived, so there should be 4 months food supply for 5000 people which is a lot of food. If Chris and Jennifer lived for 90 years they would only comsumed 11% of all the food. Which isn't good news for later wake ups but still acceptable. I've never watch the movie so my question is why aren't there any backup pods?
@@JKai-o4i In they film they explain that there are no backups or protections because there has never been a pod failure before, so they either removed the protections, or never developed them
It's a luxury ship, so they probably have a lot of extra food reserves so people can get whatever they want. And in the end, you see they were growing their own food from the seeds and saplings they brought along to pollinate the new planet, potentially living a sustainable lifestyle. My question would be, did they have kids and what kid of life would they have? Probably a good idea they left that part open-ended.
there were over 5000 people...enough to basically create a thriving village and at least a couple generations..those who woke up would've become the grandparents/ great grandparents of those who reached homestead...the only question is if they would've been able to create a source of food and oxygen capable of substaining all those thousands of people for 90 years..iirc the ship only had food for 5000 people for the last 4 months before landing on Homestead 2...it was plenty enough to last 2 people a lifetime, but all the passengers would've needed to grow plants in order for everyone to survive for 90 years.
The ship is programmed to wake up people about 4 months before the arrival. I don’t how many people are there in that ship, but in 90 years Jim, and maybe others who will wake up too soon will consume all the food in that ship😂😂😂 I’m dying from a laughter here😂 so everybody will wake up to die from hunger😂😂😂
Something isn't right i just realised. He spent "120 years in suspended animation" and then he asks the computer in the observatory and it tells him they started from Earth about 30 years before.
I’m interested in watching this movie I love Chris Pratt and I think this movie is great now I’ve never watched it but I don’t think I can because of how sad it is
I feel like his pod isn’t malfunctioning, the ships AI computer however encountering these issues decided that the best and only person to fix them and save the ship was Jim.
That is an interesting theory, but if that is the case, ship should have informed him about that. Just waking him up does not really solve any problems
@@_Caose hmm yeah maybe? I think the theory is a nice one it’s not really suggested at any point in the film but is hinted at through some portions of the scenes like this one? I.e the fact they kept saying that it’s impossible for a pod to malfunction and Jim’s pod didn’t look to malfunction at all? It literally just woke him up and this scene kinda makes it look like it’s the ship encountering problems and it’s best course of action is the wake up the ideal passenger to fix the ship, I’m sure that while Jim is in his pod the ship has access to everyone’s memories and abilities as a human and maybe Jim was just the best person?
@@yun.mp4728 in the first scenes, there is a screen that shows which parts of the ship gives errors. It also shows the auto-fixes. The ship was able to fix all the errors, but the pod error. I think, if the wake is on purpose, it would not be shown on that screen as an error, but a fix.
Yeah it's a pretty dumb premise. No space travel of this length would leave without adding the ability to put people back into cryo sleep. It can't be such a complicated and large piece of technology that they can't at least put a couple of machines on there capable of putting people into cryo sleep. Especially when you can assume that it's probably also used medically to save lives, which would mean they'd probably be transporting such machines for the colony to use anyways. And the ship also does round trips, which means the crew needs to be put back into cryo for the return trip, which would make much more sense to have the equipment to do it on board.
I am just trying to image to be the company's customer service person to get his message 19 years later. "I got this complaint from twenty years ago. What do I do?"
I hope even though I will not see it, that we'll never make such hibernation travel. Its awful n ludicrous. Anyway it's a FANTASTIC movie, thanks to the director and the actors ❤❤
If you can solve a problem, but the superficiality of ego in social status of those around you prevents you from doing so, develop an alter ego, solve the problem through your alter ego, the benefits of the solution will make its way back you free of charge
”My friends.” I was always thinking - did Jim have friends that went on this trip with him? If so, why didn’t he mention them later in the movie? Why didn’t he wake any of them up?
I don't think this is the only message Jim made. I'm sure he would make more for the people of Earth to know. 'Cause if he didn't keep updating them, they would be left with only that one message knowing that he can't be saved and wondering why his pod malfunctioned. So I think he made a message with Aurora in it to let them know that she's awake and that they are together. That Gus Mancuso also woke up and unfortunately passed away. That they saved the ship. That they would let them know about the tree growing. I'm sure they would let everyone back at Earth know this to let them know they're gonna be okay. Plus, it would give the company preparation for their next voyage to make sure their shield is more protective and that the pods work better. Jim and Aurora would probably say how Arthur is the only machine they can have extensive conversations with. With that, the company would want to make sure that the other machines are AI so they don't keep repeating the same thing like how pods work fine and that they're all in this together. The company will learn from their mistakes. In addition, I'm sure they would do some kind of dedication to them on Earth for their families and friends.
We'll likely never attain this level of technology. For one, traveling at any appreciable fraction of the speed of light is a "mathematically" solvable problem, but it requires extensive (and therefore heavy) shielding on all sides of the ship. The level of cosmic radiation increases dramatically in interstellar space, once you leave the heliosphere. This then requires more mass added to the ship for shielding, which increases the mass of the ship, which makes it more difficult to even reach an appreciable fraction of the speed of light, which requires more size and mass to be added to the ship for propulsion, which further increases the quantity of shielding required... you get the picture.
@@polysci006 I get it, but I Also get that NEVER Is a strong Word..I mean, 2000 Years ago if you'd told Someone that we'd get on the Moon they'd have though you were absolutely insane.
"We apologize for the delay. That will be $6012." That's the funniest part.
Happy to help 😊
it's weird if you think about it, there is no contact with earth for 30 years, originally should be 120 years if nothing went wrong, what value does money even have? are the same currency still used? i think it would be pretty pointless for the ship to charge for its services in the proverbial middle of nowhere of the universe
So 2024.
That is like $1 in today's money. Remember, this is the 22nd century or something.
@@UnexpectedTokens say that to a white collar, who would want some cashback for their investment :P
Just own it jim. You've got a cool jacket. *leaves without it*
He in fact, did not own it
Like WHO is going to steal it ? He'll get it tomorrow, or some tomorrow in the next 90 years.
I had never noticed that before, but I think that might have been the joke. Some people don't want to dress up too much because they think they look too pretentious.
i wish they made more movies like this.
watching such movies makes me so cozy
Loved this movie too!!
All people I know have a special feeling about this movie as well, incluiding me
It's all about a very small number of people living in a tiny bubble completely isolated from everything else.
this movie is nightmare fuel lmfao
@@Spitfyur whats nightmare to yoy
19 years for a light message to reach earth. 30 years since they departed. This ship is moving roughly 2/3s the speed of light. Pretty nifty.
So then a 120 year trip would be about 80 light years away from Earth
I was looking for this comment. It is a relief to see that some people on the internet still have a properly functioning brain.
@@WildaTheDog it would depend on what time they are going off of, if it's 120 years in avalon's frame of reference, at 2/3 light speed, it would mean a gamma factor of roughly 1.33, so the distance is contracted by 1.33, i think the actual distance would be 120 * 2/3c * 1.33 = ~105 light years
if they are instead traveling at 1/2 light speed, gamma factor is roughly 1.1547, so real distance is around 120 * 1/2c * 1.1547 = ~69 light years
special relativity is weird
@@UnexpectedTokens If only the ship could go sth like 0.995c, time dialation would make the trip lasts like a few years from their perspective. And anyone who wakes up early wouldn’t have to wait very long at all.
His legs so good in those shorts 🥰
Imagine showing up at the office and getting this message: "hey boss....we might have a lawsuit on our hands"
don't worry jimbo. we made sure they died before they can sue us
>_>
Delete it, whats he gonna do, sue us?
No we don't, he won't be alive long enough. Make sure the robots dispose of his body.
If they even reply after 19 years and Jim won’t receive that message at the earliest in 55 years, if the company is even still around anymore a millennia later they won’t be able to file a lawsuit against them. It would be like me suing George Washington for chopping down a cherry tree on land that I just purchased yesterday, too much time has passed and poor George is not really fit enough anymore to go to court, unless the legal system is allowing ghost to stand trial in the future.
Ai: let’s get you to your room so you can get some rest
Jim: *slept for 30 years*
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that
hypersleep and normal sleep arent same id imagine, its not natural for the body
@@WM-gf8zm ever heard of a joke?
@@lucassalahub8611 no
30 years of sleep is not enough when a reactor failure is in progress in the ship you need more sleep to handle that issue🤣🤣
People dunk on this movie but I enjoyed it a lot and have seen it many times.
I like the way the message returning from earth will take 36 years rather than 19 because the ship will have moved even further away.
I figured earth is so populated and the customer service would take so long that was why, along with the expensive 6k bill haha.
Me too I have seen it many times!
It had a good idea.
But it was poorly executed.
@@cringekiller348 how was it poorly executed
@@beanrefraction9530because he wasn't cast, and Pratt was.
Now that you think about it... Jim was an mechanical engineer. My theory is - it was not a malfunction that woke him up after collision, but rather the ship's AI itself because it knew some prpblems can not be fixed through AI alone. So Jim was woken up so one day he could help maintain and fix the ship.
It could have provided him with tools/info from get go if that was the case
If that would have been the case, the AI would have told him. AI acts strictly according to Protocol. no games
He should just yell Marco. And wait to hear Polo!!!!!!!!🙂🙂🙂🙂😊😊😊😊🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought that the rocks was what made the malfunction?
That's a really really stupid theory. It would have woken up one of the ships mechanical engineers/crew not some random passenger.
"we are all in this together"
It was at this moment that he knew ...
he fucked up
Imagine if his pod got fixed. All those people on that ship would be dead without him
'Maybe' it happened on purpose? 😉The ship 'knew' it needed a technician! On the info-screen of his pod it said he was a mechanical engineer btw.... 00:52
"Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.... or the one"😉
@@knutritter461 From those according to their abilities. To those according to their needs.
@@knutritter461 no man
If the ship actually knew it needed fixing, it would have woken up the crew I.e captain or more qualified engineers, not some under qualified passenger not knowing what the fuck is going on.
The ship doesn’t have a conscience to understand that Waking up one guy is eventually more beneficial than waking up a bunch of people.
It simply malfunctioned
@@davidtouzani2107 In have done linear optimization in operations research as well. You can teach an AI to minimize costs and maximize yield... in this case costs means death sentences and yield means people actually arriving alive. In the info box of his pod it did not say he was simply a technician. He was labled as a mechanical engineer.
@@knutritter461 The error screens in the sequence starting at 0:16 clearly shows his pod was one of the things damaged. It couldn't be repaired, so he was awakened instead.
Cannot imagine anything more terrified then this,relation of total, utterly...alone
That, then you hear tapping on the window and see a smiling, malignant face. That's more terrifying
I can top that , at 10 years of age I decided that I wanted to learn to free climb and not only taught myself but also taught myself to prospect routes up a cliff in order to climb successfully I also found out that fear wasn't a friend so I burnt the fear out even today when I am in a dangerous situation my mind speeds up to give me an edge to deal with the danger ......just saying.......
@@LRMc-jn3pbAdrenalin.
this would have made an excellent horror movie
TFW you have a grade A horror movie concept and made it into a grade C romdram
Just substitute Chris Pratt for Jack Nicholson and you've got yourself The Shining in space.
@@atmoscreative-tech Substitute again for Sam Neill, and you have Event Horizon.
There was that crappy Sci fi movie with Bruce Willis called anti life, where they're on their way to a new home planet, but some creature from earth hitchiked on board and started using all the passengers as hosts.
This is why you build redundant systems/backups especially in space travel
The music gives it real Wall E vibes. Same composer too
Now it all makes sense. I was watching this like "Why does this soundtrack feel familiar?"
Thomas Newman is the GOAT
I really liked the music, acting, cinematography, and the moral dilemma presented.
This movie had so much potential. The order should have been: Guy wakes girl up and says that because of an error or glitch they art the only ones awake. The story between the two continues. Then after a while we cut to this scene and we along with the girl find out the horrible truth. We the audience would have been fooled too.
the ship is broken so you must wake up and die dude for the team
Wrong, it's shown from his perspective so they can end up together. Shown from the girls perspective would mean they are not trying to show his plight and rationalize his decision and make it sympathetic
The fact that he woke up the girl and then lied to her ruined the movie. Instead of just enjoying the show, I spent way too much time dreading the moment when she found out the truth.
@@Langkowski cause your a moron it's a movie the point was for him to wake her up to show how humans cannot survive long term alone like that which is why even Nasa does not do the lone wolf thing with astronauts
@@Langkowski yes you are an It not a person so why bother talking mr It
imho, this was such an underappreciated film. yes, it had 2 of the biggest names in Hollywood, but it definitely wasn't talked about as much as it should have been. this may be one of the best movies I've seen - the plot, the suspense, the thrill, it was SUCH a great film! I'd even go as far as saying it's one of my favorite movies! I wish Netflix had it, I'd rewatch it so many times.
you havent seen many movies i guess...
@@hansmo1 - 🤓
@hansmo1 not sure why or how you got that out of my comment, but wtv floats your boat ig🤷🏼♀️
It was almost a good film, but it wasn’t. If it had started with her waking up and then revealed what he did, it would have been good.
The problem is everybody can see that they had a grade A movie on there hands here (like cult classic status) and instead of running with the horror/scifi/time aspects they just said F it lets just do a weird romcom.
Of all the possible Passengers to awake accidentally a Mechanical Engineer is awoken who then wakes a another who is a Writer. One to save the ship and one to make sure everyone knows for perpetuity.
Everyone is a writer while it takes knowledge to be a mechanical engineer... 🙄
@Sarah Stop it, now.
@Sarah Are you drunk ? 😒
@Sarah Your english level is too high for me
@@yassinee.3463 Nah she just copied and pasted from Google
He should have woken everyone up. Rise and shine people.
Thats what I would've done. If I'm going down, I'm taking everyone with me.
@@alfasiger4178 I know, right? We're a selfish bunch.
I want to see THAT movie.
@@mbaxter22 Really? Aww. I'll give you a little excerpt then: It was relief, after nearly being hauled out the air lock, that two incubated travellers hadn't risen with the rest of them. Turns out waking up hadn't been the worst case scenario after all. He could have had his food supply cut or his oxygen depleted like those poor suckers. What it did mean, however, was that there was something wrong with the ship and now that everyone knew, all hell was breaking loose...
how? what good would it have done to wake up all the other passengers besides kill them all? please pretty please explain how that would work because you forget he was still locked out of the crew cryo pod room so he couldn't wake them up GUS only woke up because of his pod failing like JIMS pod failed so please explain how waking up all the passengers would have accomplished anything
0:15 They really nailed the VFX and sound effects of the Avalon, it’s awesome!
Bro got charged $6012 for sending a video
Average price of an iPhone in the future.
Very long distance.
sorry bro. its the algorithm
The Biden inflation has long term consequences.
No he got charged 6000 bucks for sending a message for help to customer service. 😂
The ship should've had an A.I avaliable to help solving any situation or event unexpected that endangered the passengers
That's what I think, now after watching a bunch of these clips (sought in the theater and is one of my favorite films of all time). Of course since this movie, we've now made strides in creating robot situations that can manipulate things like humans, such as the Tesla Optimus, etc. one way or another, AI & mechanical contrivances should have been able to repair the issue just as well as Jim and Aurora. That said, still a GREAT movie!!
I never thought about that but if they had a robot bartender there's no reason they couldn't have had a robot engineer.
For an introvert such as myself being alone on a starship such as the Avalon would be a dream come true.
Yeah, maybe if it's not malfunctioning the whole time....😅😅
No one is introverted enough to spend the rest of their life by themself on a spaceship
@@touchoflight124 I am. 🙂
Sounds like bliss
Until it isn’t
Pandorum is a 2008 horror/thirller movie like this one, except the protagonists are not the first ones to wake up prematurely. Hits a lot of the notes that people in these comments are asking for.
LOVE Pandorum
Reminds me of trying to contact a human for help with anything at my company. 😅
sooo what would you do if you were woken up 90 years early and were going to die alone on the star ship?🤣🤣
I wanna see part 2 where they get to their new home!!
I'm thankful the ship's crew woke up to find a bunch of trees and not incest babies.
Its cus they died of deformities
that's actually another movie pandorum
@@seyumaiayami3536 lol you made me laugh pretty hard with this :D
onboard sterilization ? maybe ...
@@PraiseJesus. I guess I was stoned when I wrote that. Definitely no fuckin trees in that movie haha!
When she says "what made you do it?" and he's like OH NO she found out, the look of relief when she says "what made you move to another planet?"
I really wish we got a reaction from people on Earth when his message arrived there. At first they think it is a prank or something and then the reality hits and the poor customer support people have to kick it up corporate ladder while having no idea why it happened or what is the status of the ship...
the Avalon is on final Approach for the next 90 years you will be alone enjoy your new found solitude muhahahahahaha
I thought he didn't actually send the message because it was so expensive. Idk. I wouldn't have because I would have been thinking exactly what you said, what are they supposed to do except feel bad?
@4:10 is like a glitched cut scene in a game. U start thinking "wait...uh oh.. somethings wrong here." XD
There should have been rotating crews that served 5 years and then slept the rest of the time
You would think that's intelligent thing to do where lives are at stake!
That would be too expensive 🥴
@@drummer2443 that ship would be in the billions to build. An additional 20-30 crew salary would be a drop in the bucket for cost.
@frank1279 you underestimate the ability of money grubbing corporations to penny-pinch.
@@drummer2443 I work for one
I thought the movie ended early. I would have like to have seen the reactions of the passengers and crew when they all wake up and see what happened. Maybe they left a message to everyone or what if they had kids who greeted them at 80 years old..?
@@PRh-cw6lg it's heavily implied that they actually had kids, because he found a medical specialist for this task among the passengers and they had the medical tube unlocked for them so they could wake up a doctor every time for a safe delivery and put them back to sleep.
Back to sleep? Couldn't they go back to sleep then? Not enough pods?
This is one those rare movies where they got the science right most of the time.
Imagine after 55 years the message was just "lol"
I would gladly live alone on that ship versus Earth
Lol
The POV of this movie is around Jim. If we change the POV to Aurora.. this would become a horror movie for sure!
I’ve seen a few people commenting other stuff.But for me, I honestly don’t mind how this film started. These days,not many movies start with a view of space with a dramatic score. I’m pretty sure the first time I ever saw this movie was in 2021. I related a lot to Chris Pratt’s character back then. In fact I kinda still do. I wish I was friends with Chris Pratt. I’ve known Chris Pratt since 2014 and he’s a son of God…
I love this movie and wouldn't want it changed at all. You're supposed to see things from Jim's point of view, see how he's a good person, watch him devolve due to loneliness until he's almost suicidal. Even then, he's so hesitant to wake someone to suffer his own fate, and when he finally does, he hates himself for doing it. What a great movie.
What’s eerie about this movie to me is that another entity may have woken CP just to attempt saving the entire ship. Which happened. However we get muted in his perceived selfishness throughout the w tire thing we forget to ask why him.
Wouldn't it wake up one of the crew who actually knows how to fix the ship and has access to its controls, rather than a passenger with an engineering background who doesn't have that access?
His pod malfunctioning seems like a random thing. Like pulling the horror version of a lottery ticket, basically.
@@Xylarxcode True, but the AI welcomer mentions it when they state he was preselected for the engineering wing. Perhaps wake him up to keep the more valuable and operators asleep for the years they had left. Throw his life away for the small shot to attempt to salvage the mission. Who knows
@@rztricky Except the ship/AI had no way of knowing how serious the malfunction was and that it would eventually take two of them to fix it. You can speculate until you are blue in the face or you can just go by what the movie presented and that it was just an accident. Don't know why people take such deep dives into this searching for some other explanation. And don't forget that a major complaint many people had was the fact that he woke up Aurora intentionally without any regard for her life. But in the end it proved that without both of them awake, over 5,000 people would have died.
Ship should have just woken half the engineering + some of the flight crew to fix it a bit faster :P
All of that speculation aside, the AI should have immediately recognized there was a problem when a passenger was awake at this point in the trip. There should have been protocol that woke a crew member in the event of that scenario. The reality is that it wasn't in place because "hibernation failure was impossible" so it was ignored. But even we set aside the hubris of that assumption, that protocol should have been in place for security purposes alone. Someone waking up either by accident or with nefarious purpose puts 5000 lives at stake.
Gall imagine sending a message and it will be received in 19 years with a reply in 55 years. Gives a new meaning to snail mail. This whole movie was a interesting experiment in wtf would you do. And yeah its pretty clear at 0:19 - 1:16 why he was allowed to wake up while the other pods were repaired. I like how the movie gave us the thought experiment but never clearly stated why he was woke up and no one else was. He was a engineer, and poor. So he was expendable on the new colony but could maybe fix the ship since it was damaged without sacrificing the crew who wouldn't live to the new colony.
but if you wake up a crew member who then fixes the ship in what a day? Then can go back in his/her properly functioning pod...
sounds like an introvert's dream tbh
This is my dream fantasy waking up in a luxury interstellar spaceship
Wish I had written this book and no one else … what the story could be, endless scenario’s…
Imagine the guy sitting in the support center 19 years from then like: "Boss, we might have a problem here"
I think this movie was made just to see Chris naked 😂
This movie an alien covenant are my favorite science fiction movies ever! Love seeing clips of it.
I've heard Jennifer Lawrence saying how she regretted making this movie. I think she's being hard on the film. It's not a great movie, but there are PLENTY worse. If this is the movie she regrets, then she's had a pretty darn good career so far.
She regrets making this film??? I'm sure she doesn't regret the 20 million dollars she made.
Jennifer Lawrence is a good actor but dumb as a rock.
She probably regrets The Fappening the worst, guranteed.
I agree. I thought it was very good despite some major plots issues.
Are you kidding? This is literally the third best movie she's been in. Let's not talk about the House at the End of the Street or Serena.
The problem I have with this concept is it implies that no one ever considered that one of those beds would fail. First of all The ship would know where it is and realize it's not where it's supposed to be. That would almost certainly trigger a contingent of the crew to be awakened to take care of the trouble. Finally there's not a single spare bed anywhere on the ship? That's ridiculous.
Ikr, im an aerospace engineer, and in my experience, everything is overdone. There is just simply no way no one thought to plan for a malfunction, resulting in someone waking up early. Even if it has never happened before.
The AI woke up Star Lord cause the Ship needed a Hero. Then Star Lord needed a Girlfriend so he woke up Mystique. 😂
Just spent years in hibernation - "Let's get you to your cabin where you can get some rest."
He's going to feel disoriented and maybe queasy when he comes out of hibernation, it's not the same as sleeping.
it's a beautiful movie with beautiful people
I love it that whole scene when he has a breakdown so damn funny
So my question is, was his awakening HAPPENSTANCE or did the ship's computer CHOOSE him based on skills, psych makeup, personality, etc, etc, as the most likely to be able to repair the ship?
Saw someone suggest he's most likely to fix and also just someone they can throw away , no point waisting a top boss engineer who might be vital for construction of the colony, just throw use a grunt
@@morgansheppard8215 that is dark
Seems like random chance to me, that flickering before his pod malfunctioned didn't seem like he was specifically chosen for the task. Jim having an engineering background was just a coincidence.
Couldn't those passengers just go back to hibernation after waking up? If yes then it doesn't matter waking up the expert engineer crew who have access to its mechanics etc.
@@dallasyap3064 apparently they need special equipment that arent available to them on the ship, the hibernstion pods can only continue and end the hibernation process, but not start it.
8:25 Perhaps a line he picked up from his father-in-law
Strangest part of this sequence is that it's established that the entire crew and passenger list are in cryosleep. There's not a single person awake. The whole ship is on self-managing autopilot. ...but for some reason when it needs to reroute power to the asteroid shield, it leaves all the lights and monitors on.
This is a really cool and underrated movie.
Every part of this made me think what's next? and that's the sign of a very good movie
Computer
"That'll be $6,000."
Angry German Kid
"😠😡😡👊⌨️✴️🖥️"
I hope they recut this movie... And re-release, I would watch it
Funny how ‘Peter Quill’ being a passenger awaken after 90 years early 😅
WISH THEY MADE A PART 2
Biggest problem with this movie is the writers didn't take any risks, its could have been a fair more interesting story.
I mean it would be interesting if a reboot has been done
Biggest problem was the psychological drama to bad action genre swap at the end. The movie itself was a risk every step of the way for the writers. To start, writing a scifi? Those RARELY get greenlit and just as rarely look good, choosing that setting was an enormous gamble. Writing a character who will have to act off themselves for the majority of the film... BIG RISK! And making the lead do something utterly detestable but try to make them likeable despite this... Risk. There was also some subject matter that was a risky inclusion with them being touchy subjects (looking at you attempted suicide scene).
No, I can't agree with your assessment less.
Think on this. What if you started the movie when Aurora wakes up and what happened with Jim is a mystery that we get to discover along with her. The tone of the scene when they first meet is completely different and unsettling. The big reveal is as shocking to us as to her. Just think on it.
The first time I watched this movie I actually hated it, but the second time I did, kind of like Inception, I realized how good it really was.
How is there still food left on the ship? Nobody ever brings this up. The passengers were set to wake up a month before they land, which means they would’ve needed a month’s worth of food for everybody, but Chris and Jennifer were alive in the ship for almost 90 years, which means they would’ve needed 90 years worth of food, which means those 2 alone would’ve used up all that food and water that was meant for everyone when they wake up. They might’ve even died sooner because they ran out and they literally would’ve left nothing for the rest.
There was 5000 passengers. I'm Sure they would have stored enough food for more than 30 days. In fact, about 60-70 years for 2 passengers shouldn't have put much of a dent in the total supply. Not likey they would be pigs and eat crazy amounts..
It's programmed to wake up all passengers 4 months before they arrived, so there should be 4 months food supply for 5000 people which is a lot of food. If Chris and Jennifer lived for 90 years they would only comsumed 11% of all the food. Which isn't good news for later wake ups but still acceptable.
I've never watch the movie so my question is why aren't there any backup pods?
@@JKai-o4i In they film they explain that there are no backups or protections because there has never been a pod failure before, so they either removed the protections, or never developed them
About food, i imagine the ship just creates it with some kind of 3d printers, using energy and raw materials. So there's plenty of tolerance.
It's a luxury ship, so they probably have a lot of extra food reserves so people can get whatever they want. And in the end, you see they were growing their own food from the seeds and saplings they brought along to pollinate the new planet, potentially living a sustainable lifestyle.
My question would be, did they have kids and what kid of life would they have? Probably a good idea they left that part open-ended.
Imagine if he had been an even bigger asshole and wake everyone else up.
Or, if he hadn't saved everyone.
interest rates for 56 years ?
there were over 5000 people...enough to basically create a thriving village and at least a couple generations..those who woke up would've become the grandparents/ great grandparents of those who reached homestead...the only question is if they would've been able to create a source of food and oxygen capable of substaining all those thousands of people for 90 years..iirc the ship only had food for 5000 people for the last 4 months before landing on Homestead 2...it was plenty enough to last 2 people a lifetime, but all the passengers would've needed to grow plants in order for everyone to survive for 90 years.
"That will be $6K"
Me:Hulk smash!!
Imagine the first thought after being awaken is he had forgotten to turn off the stove.
The ship is programmed to wake up people about 4 months before the arrival. I don’t how many people are there in that ship, but in 90 years Jim, and maybe others who will wake up too soon will consume all the food in that ship😂😂😂 I’m dying from a laughter here😂 so everybody will wake up to die from hunger😂😂😂
Incorrect, if you do the math, there will still be enough
2:01 when the boss call me at 7:00 on sunday
I just thought of a concept. What if everyone woke up early and it was kind of like a space Titanic type thing
Why would he wonder where he is after waking up? From his perspective wouldn't he have entered the pod mere moments ago?
250 years in cybersleep without growing a beard
Crazy that the bio bed that malfunctioned was the actors bed. Wow could've been a different movie.
Man wakes up early.
Man finds hottest girl.
Man wakes her up.
Woman is pissed at man.
lol this is like a game tutorial
Where can we stream this
Something isn't right i just realised. He spent "120 years in suspended animation" and then he asks the computer in the observatory and it tells him they started from Earth about 30 years before.
Imagine sleeping with the same underwear for 120 years. That would pi.. me off.
just go commando
I’m interested in watching this movie I love Chris Pratt and I think this movie is great now I’ve never watched it but I don’t think I can because of how sad it is
I feel like his pod isn’t malfunctioning, the ships AI computer however encountering these issues decided that the best and only person to fix them and save the ship was Jim.
That is an interesting theory, but if that is the case, ship should have informed him about that. Just waking him up does not really solve any problems
@@_Caose That's what I thought too
@@_Caose hmm yeah maybe? I think the theory is a nice one it’s not really suggested at any point in the film but is hinted at through some portions of the scenes like this one?
I.e the fact they kept saying that it’s impossible for a pod to malfunction and Jim’s pod didn’t look to malfunction at all? It literally just woke him up and this scene kinda makes it look like it’s the ship encountering problems and it’s best course of action is the wake up the ideal passenger to fix the ship, I’m sure that while Jim is in his pod the ship has access to everyone’s memories and abilities as a human and maybe Jim was just the best person?
@@yun.mp4728 in the first scenes, there is a screen that shows which parts of the ship gives errors. It also shows the auto-fixes. The ship was able to fix all the errors, but the pod error. I think, if the wake is on purpose, it would not be shown on that screen as an error, but a fix.
I believe it was a pod malfunction as well. Just bad luck.
The music remind me the axiom
they dont have spare pods. hahahahaha. HILARIUS😂😂😂😂
That would be too expensive 🥴
Yeah it's a pretty dumb premise. No space travel of this length would leave without adding the ability to put people back into cryo sleep. It can't be such a complicated and large piece of technology that they can't at least put a couple of machines on there capable of putting people into cryo sleep. Especially when you can assume that it's probably also used medically to save lives, which would mean they'd probably be transporting such machines for the colony to use anyways. And the ship also does round trips, which means the crew needs to be put back into cryo for the return trip, which would make much more sense to have the equipment to do it on board.
Presumably, he was alive when he got that response lol
I am just trying to image to be the company's customer service person to get his message 19 years later.
"I got this complaint from twenty years ago. What do I do?"
Like whats the point of messaging literally half a lifetime just for two way “hey” “hey,wyd” 😂😂😂
I can’t even imagine
severely under rated movie. This was great
It’s like they don’t learn anything from Star Wars. Just build a hyperdrive engine. It will get you to a new planet more faster for a new colonization
Jim Preston awakens.
I hope even though I will not see it, that we'll never make such hibernation travel. Its awful n ludicrous. Anyway it's a FANTASTIC movie, thanks to the director and the actors ❤❤
It is very surprising that with such a level of technology, ships do not have a protective field😅
wish at the end of the movie they included the reaction / reply from the company
If you can solve a problem, but the superficiality of ego in social status of those around you prevents you from doing so, develop an alter ego, solve the problem through your alter ego, the benefits of the solution will make its way back you free of charge
”My friends.” I was always thinking - did Jim have friends that went on this trip with him? If so, why didn’t he mention them later in the movie? Why didn’t he wake any of them up?
THAT is the question
What do the finger cups do?LOL
His character was given the name James in honor of James T Kirk.
Or not, I totally just guessed 😂
His legs look so good in those shorts 🥰
I don't think this is the only message Jim made. I'm sure he would make more for the people of Earth to know. 'Cause if he didn't keep updating them, they would be left with only that one message knowing that he can't be saved and wondering why his pod malfunctioned. So I think he made a message with Aurora in it to let them know that she's awake and that they are together. That Gus Mancuso also woke up and unfortunately passed away. That they saved the ship. That they would let them know about the tree growing. I'm sure they would let everyone back at Earth know this to let them know they're gonna be okay. Plus, it would give the company preparation for their next voyage to make sure their shield is more protective and that the pods work better. Jim and Aurora would probably say how Arthur is the only machine they can have extensive conversations with. With that, the company would want to make sure that the other machines are AI so they don't keep repeating the same thing like how pods work fine and that they're all in this together. The company will learn from their mistakes. In addition, I'm sure they would do some kind of dedication to them on Earth for their families and friends.
He should call rocket to pick him up
such an amazing concept of movie though
If that ship were going 50 percent the speed of light, that asteroid would've hit with the energy of several thousand nuclear warheads.
why do you think it has a deflector shield?
The deflector shield failed from the looks of things. The rock still hit the ship.
Wondering how many centuries/millennia are we from reaching this type of technology.
Which tech? The Avalon able to travel at.5 lightspeed........maybe. Suspending someone perfectly for 120 years....nope.
We'll likely never attain this level of technology. For one, traveling at any appreciable fraction of the speed of light is a "mathematically" solvable problem, but it requires extensive (and therefore heavy) shielding on all sides of the ship. The level of cosmic radiation increases dramatically in interstellar space, once you leave the heliosphere. This then requires more mass added to the ship for shielding, which increases the mass of the ship, which makes it more difficult to even reach an appreciable fraction of the speed of light, which requires more size and mass to be added to the ship for propulsion, which further increases the quantity of shielding required... you get the picture.
@@polysci006 I get it, but I Also get that NEVER Is a strong Word..I mean, 2000 Years ago if you'd told Someone that we'd get on the Moon they'd have though you were absolutely insane.
@@polysci006 Yes but we will gain mastery over death...... via suspended animation.