i don't care why they have to delay the release of components. I want them to be free of defects and work as advertised. When I take it home that's the last time I want to deal with them except to update drivers and security updates.
@@sav3429 I have had no problems with AMD GPU's. I use them exclusively. I do not care why the new release is delayed. I just want them to work well when they are. So far I have been served well by them.
Exactly! Trump wants to do away with taxes. I hope it happens because there would be no tax refunds. There would be far less sales for Nvidia. But I'm pretty sure it's too late anyway. Nvidia and AMD have both been screwing people for way too long.
Did you watch the video. Scalpers work in computer stores and get those GPUs before they even go to sale in the shop! They just presell these at huge margins! Imagine going shop to buy TV…. No we don`t have that TV… it is sold out… But if you want to preorder the same TV.. you can get it at 200% price increase… and same Person is ”selling” the product in both cases.
@haukikannel computer stores should not let employees get first dibs. Lots of retail stores have these rules for employees. Apparently not all of them.
We all need to stand strong and not support these disgusting parasites. It's not like it's food or water or some other necessity these pieces of filth are peddling, it's video game components. Simply don't buy them at marked up prices and the scalpers will be forced to give up their evil ways.
@heirtothethrone000 iv had an rx6800 for the past few years. Honestly I was looking forward to go back to nvidia as amd has so many driver issues and so many visual problems in games. but sadly il have to put up with it as team red might still be the best choice generally.
@@ToothlessDragon536 i use to have an amd gpu and im ngl the amd app is sm better and dlss sucks so bad im going back to amd for my next pc and u can change fan speeds with like 2 clicks to it was so nice and u save alot more money with amd
Fleabay could stop the scalping by simply removing listings for GPU's at even $1 above MSRP. But they won't because when the scalper makes money, fleabay makes money.
Does not matter, you will not have a GPU in your hands regardless of scalpers or not. If there is a supply constraint, what happens is some lucky few will be able to buy one, and the rest will have to have nothing. And not to mention they will just sell on alternate sites or something.
It's not ebay or any other marketplaces problem, it's people with more $ than reason, almost no one needs the newest top cards it's all want not need just take the savings on the last gen and enjoy
If those idiots don't release the specs and some benchmarks in the next 5 days, they're going to lose a massive amount of sales. People are going to buy the nvidia cards as soon as they drop so they can get SOME card this quarter, but they're not even going to consider AMD if they have no idea what to expect from them.
The release of the RTX 5070 is in February, which is the main competitor for the 9070. Since the 5070 is a failure with only 12GB RAM, I think people will accept to wait a little longer for the 9070, if AMD announces a competitive price. You have to be a little damaged in the brain to buy a 12GB card in 2025. In the end it's the price that matters, and AMD will find a way to f*ck things up.
@@scratchy996 you realize not everyone is looking to play the latest 2025 releases, right? Calling people brain damaged for buying a certain gpu is ridiculous
@@denxx56 I guess people like to buy a new card every year, it's their decision, but it is pretty retarded. I I spend that much on a card, I want it to last for a two or three years.
From what AMD engineers are saying on social media, they're finalizing drivers and FSR4 because they want zero issues at launch. FSR4 is looking very promising TBH. AMD is closing the gap on upscaling.
I've lost all faith in people. People are STUPID STUPID STUPID. Buying a 5090 for $7000 God just when you think people couldnt get dumber. Yes, please just hold out because this tells nvidia that were willing to pay that much for cards and they can use it to influence their pricing. Cmon people be patient and don't be stupid.
@@rallyscoot If someone is retarded enough to pay 7k for a card, swimming in cash and just dont care.....why stop at one card? Buy a few more and start handing them out. Sharing is caring. ; )
Between NVIDIA's greed and AMD's constant tripping over themselves, I am getting really sick of these companies. Maybe at the very least the CEO's need to be sacked.
Intel already lost their c e o and amd c e o is the only reason the company still exists. Nvidia's not gonna lose their CEO because he's a co. Founder, and the reason why nvidia is so rich. What they need to do is get rid of Frank Azure, which has been a parasite at the radion group. Well, before lisa su became in charge, and for some reason, he seems to be unshakable from his top management position
Nobody cares what you think at AMD or Nvidia. They don't owe you a single thing and they certainly aren't going to fire their CEOs over your hurt feelings because you have to save extra money or wait an extra month or two.
@@MrMackievelli AMD is making dumbass decisions that hurt their ability to compete with Nvidia and ultimately hurt consumers he can criticize the both of them as much as he wants
I'm calling BS on AMD. They priced them too high, against Nvidia's 5070, and squandered the opportunity to stick Nvidia hard. They have plenty of cards already waiting in the warehouses of retailers. AMD needs to fire the executive that set pricing too high, because if they had come in under the 5070, tweaked FSR4 to create additional fake frames like DLSS4, and shown their 9070 was "as good as a 4090" by Nvidia's (and Jensen's) own CES standards - imagine how painful that late February launch would look for Nvidia if AMD had all of that, and a January 24th release? The drivers are fine, they were demoing games at CES. It's just greed, again, some idiot (same guy) who perpetually prices these cards too high at launch, forcing AMD to backtrack. What a shame.
To both "AMD needs to fire the executive that set pricing too high" and "AMD management acting like they have Nvidia stock", you are missing the fact that AMD has investors and they don't care how you make your money. They want their return on investment. They don't want the GPU department to handicap any other. They would rather AMD make as much money as possible rather than gain marketshare. Especially if that means diverting focus and allocating more funds to a risky bet on graphics. AMD must make as much money as possible. Even if Radeon wants to grow marketshare. It's shareholders first, then management, then marketing, if you wanna blame folks.
Growing market share = larger future profits and share price is based upon future expected earnings. Investors are a little savvier than you, it seems.
The delay of the 9070 is just AMD trying to come up with a justification for its high price. This card will not be cheap and will not provide the value people were hoping for. It will rely on fake frames to provide competitive performance. This is just the usual "Nvidia minus $50" that we see every launch and will again end up handing over more market share to Nvidia.
I actually think this was a hardware bug being found at the last minute. We know they had cards at retailers in early January then suddenly at CES they wouldn't let their board partners say ANYTHING beyond how much ram was on the card. AMD gave up months of lead for this, and I just don't believe that they are that connected to having FSR4 on day 1. Even if their pricing was 'too high' after Nvidia's announcement, they could have kept their high price for the first month or two of sales then lowered it when Nvidia showed up. They got criticized in the 7000 series for showing up second AND having terrible pricing - you can get away with higher prices when you're the only option. If this IS NOT a hardware bug and actually is just drivers being half baked then AMD needs to do like ATi did back in the early 2000s and ruthlessly optimize their driver division - ATi had to do this before they became the strongest they ever were with the last 9000 series (e.g. the legendary 9700 pro), and AMD may need to do it again to eliminate the excuses that keep having their driver team unable to keep up with the silicon.
@@meekmeads what are you talking about bro? AMD claimed it to be round about 7900 xt performance, but the leaks suggested it to be on par with 4080 super performance...
I just want to replace my 1060 ;(...... I don't have faith in Nvidia anymore and don't think AMD will price the 90XX series right, I want Intel to release a B770 card
@@galacticmarshin4510 That's not what he meant. He means that you need a high performant CPU for an Intel Card, such as 13th gen / 5700X3D, 7000 series CPUs and above.
Honestly just get a RX 6750 XT 12gb. Should run you around like 320 bucks and if your only running 1080p still will last you for years. It beats out the RTX 4060 in most games and has the extra crucial vram. Your going to absolutely love it coming from a 1060. I upgraded from 1060 to RX 6600 and loved it.
People who would pay 5k for a card with no returns or refunds are people with more money than brains; your plea to them will, sadly, mean nothing. But damn, if I snag one by chance, I'm selling it! Lol just kidding
NOBODY. NEEDS. TO. BUY. A. 5090. If you're dumb enough to buy a 5090 from a scalper on Day One for gaming only, then I have a bridge to sell you. If you must have a GPU now, buy a cheap AMD or 40 series card to tide you over for say, 3-4 months, wait for the 50 series prices to settle and for the inevitable bugs to be fixed, and then pick up a 5070 or 5080. You do not need a 5090 for gaming any more than you need a Bugatti Chiron to pick up some groceries. If you're obsessed with having the best you possibly can for nothing other than bragging rights you can still get a 5090 in a couple of months bug-free and at reasonable prices. If you pay scalper prices on Day One all you're doing is screwing yourself and everybody else.
True in a way because getting a 5080 or 5070ti will be good for money, RTX 60 series (6060ti to 6070ti if there is) would easily match 5090 for performance with reduced price and better features.
"Settle"? Have you seen 4090 prices? They haven't settled yet, how long do we have to wait genius? My only advice is don't buy it if you can't actually afford it; think twice, 3x, or wait six years for those prices to "settle." By the way, have you ever heard of Tariffs? They could put a real kink in that plan of yours.
@ I'm recommending waiting 3-4 months for prices to settle (i.e. not scalpers charging $7,000!) and for nVidia to patch any bugs that crop up in firmware. If your money is burning a hole in your pocket nobody is stopping you, but the first into battle are also the first casualties. The smart money waits for the opportune moment. As for tariffs, Trump is targeting China specifically, not Taiwan. TSMC make the Blackwell chips in Taiwan, but the cards were being assembled in China. nVidia have already stockpiled cards to avoid tariffs and will likely move assembly to another country. It depends on a lot of factors; tariffs can be unpredictable that way. But if all you're doing is gaming then you really don't need a 5090 anyway. There's no game that requires one, and won't be for years yet. If you insist on wasting your money, go right ahead - but I'm going to use mine to the best overall effect. The GPU is only one part of a computer, and I have four or five systems I want to upgrade.
People upset at AMD for not releasing the GPUs yet are out of touch with reality... AMD might give that reason but they are aware how bad it could look for them after they saw Nvidia's info with their new series, the best they could do is hold a bit to release them and reduce a lot the negative impact they will receive. I think people shouldnt care to much about the release date but surely consider the pricing as a big factor here, if they dont place their cards at/below $500 they wont achieve anything with these new series.
At $500 amd would have sold out the first batch already and have to crank up produktion to meet demand. IMO they need the time to decide how to get us buying at $1000
Without a reference card, I'm not sure how AIB pricing would occur vs MSRP. Aren't they usually anchored to that with a certain amount extra for additional perf/cooling?
@@ixonal8843 that's up to the AIB. But if they start pricing too high above MSRP they'd just be shooting themselves in the foot. Who would buy a 9070XT for $650+ when the 5070 Ti exists
6:10 Huge W for AMD for sticking with 8-pin connectors. That shitty 12W power connector on Nvidia cards that is only rated for 30 inserts *_across the entire lifetime of the product_* can suck it.
Wait for RTX 5000s hype to die out, build up some stock so that scalpers can't really do much and, most importantly, make sure drivers and all are polished before release. I'd much rather wait march for a solid GPU at a really good price rather than getting a GPU full of issues and bad drivers in january.
my guess is most scalpers would be retail or online shop owners who will initially get rtx 50xx cards.. and willing to scalp huge amount of profits.. why would retail or online shop owner will sell rtx 50xx gpus for $30 to $50 profit.. when they can potentially sell gpus for $2k to $4k extra profit for a short term on a gpu release time window.. this is how scalping works on a retail basis... individual persons will scalp too as long they will get gpu
This was my thoughts. Its an entire generation ahead but isn't benching better at the near-top spec, compared to the previous gen top-spec. It's one thing if the 5060 doesn't do better than a 4090; but there's simply no excuse for the 5080 to not beat the 4090 except if you wanted to push people into BOTH the 5090 _and_ the 4090 (when they can't get the 5080/90). If that's the case, then I'm glad I already switched from NVidia last gen. The only issue is that AMD is playing the copycat game.... I might be an ARC gamer here real soon if they keep up these stupid pro-scalper games while "saying" they don't like scalpers
Ebay, Amazon, and every retail and second-hand Merchandise Sites are going to have to make it Illegal to sell These GPU's unless used. This is the only way to kill Scalping!!! Unless you are a Licensed Retailer!!!
the only thing I care about is the temperature of these new cards. As a 3d modeler I don't care whether it gets an extra 3 fps in a game, I need to know if I'm sitting a furnace beside me on my desk.
What's STUPID is the people that are paying these prices. Just goes to show you that a lot of wealthy people have no brains. You would think that rich = smart but not so. If I were a billionaire, there's NO WAY I would make some scalper rich just because I could. My brain tells me to in NO WAY make a person like that wealthy and in fact, hope they get stuck with so much inventory that they lose their butts off trying to get rid of them, then laugh my a** off at their failure. Why would you EVER reward someone with morals like this? Don't pay a scalper and you punish them for their behavior, and it WILL stop but some people have way more money than common sense and you can't fix stupid. Just my two cents...
Rich people are not buying these, it's the irresponsible buying that the low income peopledo with a credit card, like fighting over a $600 pair of Air Jordans when they have $200 in the bank
its the same reason why pc flipper youtuburs rely so much on 3dmark to explain gaming performance to buyers. lots of pc gamers are really reliant on 3dmark rather than understanding pc hardware. if the comments aren't an indicator of industry-wide stupidity idk what else would.
That's the mentality you have without being a billionaire. Even if they were scalped at 10,000 dollars and you bought two you wouldnt even notice the money left your account if you were a billionaire.
@@LocalAutist I KNOW a millionaire. If you DON'T spend your money, it gets TAXED 40% and HIGHER! Your accountant will call to remind you to buy something or watch 400 HUNDRED THOUSAND dollars of your 1 Million go "POOF" to the government!!
Which pricing would that be? Literally the same as 4080 Super for 5080, while being barely any faster? Or is it that even before scalpers, the 5090 is now TWO FREAKING GRAND? You say this as if Nvidia has anywhere remotely near sane or affordable or gamer-friendly prices, lol.
@@nexarath RX 9070 performance will be similar to Geforce 5070, yet the price of 5070 is basically the same as planned price for 9070 - 549$. That means no one is going to buy 9070 over 5070 if they are same price and performance. Now AMD needs to go 50 - 100$ lower on pricing of 9070 and that is the real reason for the delay.
@@nexarath 5070 pricing. AMD can delulu themslevs that 9070xt will compete with 5070ti thus should be viewed on 5070ti prices, but everyone knows that people will compare both 9070 and xt to 5070 pricing. 9070xt would need to destroy 5070 and win in raster with 5070ti on 1440p in most games. It won't happen
Price and supply will dictate if the RX9000 series will be a success or a flop. If MSRP is too high it's a flop, if supply is not high enough where scalpers can literally buy them all up and jack up the price, that's another failure.
@ And? Your point? Let me guess, their drivers suck and you had nothing but a shitty experience, constant crashing, random reboots, black screens, etc. but yet kept buying their video cards anyway for another 14 years?
I'm new to the pc space. Can someone explain why a 15% uplift is considered disappointing for a similar if not cheaper price? What percentage uplift is considered acceptable for new generation gpus?
Well from what I understand each gpu generation or from a certain point on the uplift was 25+% and I guess people got used to it and expected it for each generation going forward. So when a gpu is on the more expensive side people expect a greater than a 15% boost but I would guess that most people are upgrading from older pc parts so their boost will be much greater than 15% but if they have the last generation parts they may be disappointed so they can do this one simple thing. Not buy the gpu and to me this is an exaggerated issue
I think people are just a bit disappointed since the 4000 series were a big generational leap what people might not know that was also due to a node shrink so basically what that means was that nvidia had an advantage in a way and were able to use new architecture to be more efficient in terms of speed and efficiency and they are still using the same architecture this 5000 series generation and they cant really push it to its limits anymore so what they have kind of just done is just thrown a bit more power at it so the 5000 series will have more power draw than 4000 series hence the efficiency is kind of lost since the 4000 series had a relatively good speed/power differentiation.
a 15% uplift isnt necessarily enough to justify buying the new generation of cards IF you have the best of last generation. buying new, a 15% uplift is incredible value. not so much if i already have 1500 invested when other hardware is the bottleneck.
Nvidia's RTX 5080 seems very underwhelming compared to the last gen. Not sure what I'm buying this time. Though I stream on twitch and AMD cards are horrible for broadcasting.
i don't buy it. i think it has everything to do with adjusting prices to respond to nvidia's 5060 card. They also need to set new wholesale prices and decide how to reimburse early wholesale purchase by major retailers like microcenter and best buy
Although it's easy to believe that the drivers were not ready, it's AMD after all, I think down the line we're going to hear that they had to refund the AIBs because they charged too much for the cards vs Ngreedia. Don't expect good pricing and wait for a sale IMO. We'll see.
I'm beginning to think you may be right. I'm a 7900xtx owner so not an Nvidia fanboy. Some rumors have said that AMD was planning to sell this mid tier card for $1000. I'm not sure what is going on with Radeon anymore. Something needs to change big time. The GPU market is screwed. I really wish people would just out right skip this generation from both companies. The only way this changes is if nobody buys these cards but this won't happen. The idiots over in the digital foundries comments believe Nvidia is producing magic when all they are doing is providing a 20 series uplift and charging a fortune for it.
Software is ready driver wise. I believe they're adding more games to FSR4. FSR4 is looking very promising so it's understandable they want to showcase the 9070xt as supporting bigger name games with full FSR4 support.
The problem I have with that explanation is that Nvidia pricing is not good at all when you compare it with the 40 super cards. What the hell was AMD expecting? Nvidia to release the 5070ti for 1000$?
I'm happy you told everyone to hold off. I put balm on Nivida too. Don't release until you have stock. DONT buy AT high prices, and it will come down when nobody is buying it. One more why did they stop production of the 4090? That really pisses me off.
I used to watch every single video u used to release back before the flooting head. It was fast informative and useful. Now I skip a video more than not and many times quit watch half way threw.
AMD is done! Nvidia has no competition from AMD's broken RDNA tech. In fact AMD canceled broken RDNA5. Fact! Now Nvidia is ripping off everyone buying over priced RTX 5000 series, without magic Fake Frames with artifacts takes away bragging rights of fake performance. 2025 sad times for us gaming consumers. Both RX 9070XT & RTX 5070Ti trying to complete against the two years old regular RTX 4080 16GB is really sad ☹️ Cheers 🥂 🍻 🍸 🍹
I do have hope that the delay works out in everyone's favor. As for AMD not releasing there own in house design, I think that will be better for us and the AIB's - the AIB's aren't being disadvantaged/undermined by the chip maker they are building for.
Only you can decide whenever it is necessary or not to upgrade. You seem to mistakenly think that with new gpu released your gpu become worse. It is not, as long as your gaming requirements are satisfied you're all good.
It's near never necessary to upgrade. Necessary is ONLY when your PC specs are close to (or below) minimum requirments of games you want to play. In other scenarios is "Do I want to upgrade and do I have money to do so?"
@@chrisknight3481 to be fair, 6950 xt had 1100$ of recommended price at the release and uses 335 Watt. I'd be surprised if it wasn't enough for gaming after just 2 generations
I just hope the cards are priced aggressively. If AMD is going to go position itself against the 70 class card from nVidia, where I don't expect the volume to be a problem, it really needs to price the card to offer incredible value from the start, and not do the usual rebate 2 months in after all the reviews have dropped and people have calculated the cost per frame with the launch MSRP. nVidia can charge a premium because right now they own the market, AMD can't. AMD has proved time and time again they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, I hope they change that this generation. Since they're using GDDR6 (not 6X or 7), the cards can't just be $50 less than the 5070. Also, I hope that they didn't cut down the 60-class card too much because then they will be going against Intel's offerings.
Curious about the 80 apparently getting some actual uplift aside from core count increase, whereas the 90s uplift fails to match the core count increase even while allegedly not being bottlenecked. In addition, some actual uplift would seem like good news that they would want out there and not something that would inspire the last minute delay to the embargo. That makes me suspect of these benchmark leaks.
Had really annoying driver issues with my 5700XT for months after getting it. It's time for an upgrade and I'll be reviewing driver/software stability before jumping in this time. Waiting on the RX9000 series with bated breath!
People are stupid and scalpers will get there Karma one day. If you don't buy d=from the scalpers they will be left holding the bag and eventually have to sell the cards at a loss
I honestly feel the 9070 XT should be the same price as the 7800 XT only because if the performance leaks are true that it's between a 7900 XTX and 7900 XT and the RTX 5070 ends up performing close to a 4070 Ti - 4070 Super, makes the card a bit more valuable
Another reason is to work out with retails and partners on back pay, since they were supposed to be more expensive than what will now release at partners and retailers have already spent that money so now they need a slight refund so the cards can be priced lower.
I like how this guy is always talking and doing exaggerated hand movements like he's hosting a channel for toddlers. I'm not sure how many children watch videos on graphics card news, but I'm sure it can't be many.
It's smart for AMD to wait until after NVidia releases the 5000 series, otherwise nobody would even notice. It's better to wait for the hype to die down and for people to realize they can't drop $5k on a GPU.
people.... I wouldn't buy a new graphics card unless the performance is at least 50% increase in performance, at a minimum.... but wasting this kind of money for you to play games or even video editing.. the benefits are pretty negligible at best to justify paying these prices.
As strange as it may sound, since the Geforce App already requires an account then why not make it so you have to verify and tie your card to your account for a set amount of time? Like its only 1 per account unless you are a proven OEM/Licensed distributor with proof of business and you need to wait a 6 month grace period before you could resell the card to someone else (unless OEM/Licensed distributor). The mass influx of spam accounts to get the card would be picked up internally almost immediately if they are from the exact same IP or machine and banned. If resold early it just gets locked in bios until the timer runs out? That would still allow for resale of the card in the future, allow for custom integrator's to make their towers, but completely halt 90% of online scalpers while keeping stock stable. Nobody wants to buy a locked card so they cant sell it. Idk just a thought.
Holding off? I checked Newegg....ZERO stock of 7800XT and 7900GRE. They sold out of all their cards prior to releasing the new cards. It seems similar for NVDA leaving the market barren.
Same boat here too. Got everything except my GPU. Held off on all the Black Friday deals because I thought at least the AMD cards would be out in Jan. Now I’m leaning towards a 5070ti but with the scalper issue it might be months before any cards are available at sane prices
I'm not sure if you've enabled a specific option or if TH-cam is just trying something weird, but your channel is the only one where videos get automatically translated into my native language. It's so annoying to always have to switch it back to the original language! Other than that keep up with the news!
Some weeks ago, I was sure that the only advantage the RTX 5000 series will bring will be cheaper RTX 4000 cards. Come the spring, I'll get my hands on a used 4080 for 4070 money.
I call BS on the delay reason. I think they have waited to see if they look to be competitive with 50 series and aren't directly competitive on price or performance. They are delaying to build inventory (shops are already stocking) and will attempt to compete on availability. When you can't get that 5070 you wanted, turn to AMD.
I couldn't get a 4090 last time around, so I went with AMD. It was cheaper, similar performance since I don't do 4k or RT, and it was cheaper. This time, since I already have a 7900XTX, and i'm building a 2nd PC for someone else that doesn't have to be assembled until christmas... I'm looking for price mostly. (They will get the 7900XTX and I will get the new card, if the NATIVE RASTER benchmarks are good).
@@randomuserame I got very tempted by the 7900XTX, especially the saphire nitro+, looks fantastic! Two of the things im interested in are 4k and RT however. So I've been holding out to see what this year is going to bring. I just wish AMD would give me a good reason to wait to the end of March! my GTX980 desperatly wants replacing
The PC used and aftermarket is more broken than the retail market. I was looking to get a 5800x3D for my MOBO, and every listed price was the same as a 9800x3D
Dude, frame generation is not performance boost. Please, you dont get extra artifacts for performance boost, it doesn't improve fluidity in fast pacing game either 😂
I love how there's some morons out there that think the best gpu at any cost is as important as air and water. Thanks for screwing the rest of us with your bad impulse control.
@@Trifler500 That doesn't mean that they're great though. In my country AMD analogs cost a little bit more than most of nVidia gpus. Not to mention that nVidia is usually better in software like rendering or modeling. Not everyone needs it, but for some people it's more necessary than a few more fps in game.
@@NothingMeansNothingButNothing Nvidia drivers are not any better than AMD's. The driver software for AMD is far better than that garbage Nvidia app they're peddling now.
It’s evident that AMD aims to have people refute the false claims made by Nvidia and then present concrete data about their graphics cards, which are priced similarly to the base models.
its probably just nvidia trying to test sell them at $6000 to see if it gets any bites, then work out pricing for their cards in the future. if people are willing to spend $6k on a gpu nvidia can charge what ever they like cause they will always get someone who will buy it at that price.
i don't care why they have to delay the release of components. I want them to be free of defects and work as advertised. When I take it home that's the last time I want to deal with them except to update drivers and security updates.
The way things should be.
Exactly why they are delaying
No idea what problems you had i went from a 3070 to 7800xt no problems.
Hot spot 105C° driver timed out all the time fans going crazy when playing. Drivers being a mess.
@@sav3429 I have had no problems with AMD GPU's. I use them exclusively. I do not care why the new release is delayed. I just want them to work well when they are. So far I have been served well by them.
This is why prices keep going up. Nobody knows how to boycott anymore.
Exactly! Trump wants to do away with taxes. I hope it happens because there would be no tax refunds. There would be far less sales for Nvidia. But I'm pretty sure it's too late anyway. Nvidia and AMD have both been screwing people for way too long.
They sure do know how to complain about prices though.
I do though. I guess I'm a small minority when it comes it.
@@ejtaylor73
Rich gamers don't complain about prices.
boycott and buy what? No AMD or Intel GPU is even close to 5080. And I cannot hold back with upgrade forever
Allowing a preorder and limiting a purchase to 1 per customer would help stop scalpers.
Did you watch the video. Scalpers work in computer stores and get those GPUs before they even go to sale in the shop! They just presell these at huge margins!
Imagine going shop to buy TV…. No we don`t have that TV… it is sold out… But if you want to preorder the same TV.. you can get it at 200% price increase… and same Person is ”selling” the product in both cases.
Make it illegal?
Microcenter and Best Buy both limit one per customer.
@haukikannel computer stores should not let employees get first dibs. Lots of retail stores have these rules for employees. Apparently not all of them.
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They should not… but clearly some do…
This scalping thing won't stop any time soon. The more these gpus get promoted, the higher the prices will go and so on
We all need to stand strong and not support these disgusting parasites. It's not like it's food or water or some other necessity these pieces of filth are peddling, it's video game components. Simply don't buy them at marked up prices and the scalpers will be forced to give up their evil ways.
@heirtothethrone000 iv had an rx6800 for the past few years. Honestly I was looking forward to go back to nvidia as amd has so many driver issues and so many visual problems in games. but sadly il have to put up with it as team red might still be the best choice generally.
It especially won't stop because of this channel's sponsor, Honey.
@@ToothlessDragon536 i use to have an amd gpu and im ngl the amd app is sm better and dlss sucks so bad im going back to amd for my next pc and u can change fan speeds with like 2 clicks to it was so nice and u save alot more money with amd
Correction as long as there are fools paying these prices it will continue.
Fleabay could stop the scalping by simply removing listings for GPU's at even $1 above MSRP. But they won't because when the scalper makes money, fleabay makes money.
capitalism is great
Does not matter, you will not have a GPU in your hands regardless of scalpers or not. If there is a supply constraint, what happens is some lucky few will be able to buy one, and the rest will have to have nothing.
And not to mention they will just sell on alternate sites or something.
It's not ebay or any other marketplaces problem, it's people with more $ than reason, almost no one needs the newest top cards it's all want not need just take the savings on the last gen and enjoy
@@doublecrossedswine112 This doesn't have shit to do with capitalism. You want communism? What kind of buffoon remark is that?
ebay arent interested in stopping the listings, makes them money they dont give a damn
If those idiots don't release the specs and some benchmarks in the next 5 days, they're going to lose a massive amount of sales. People are going to buy the nvidia cards as soon as they drop so they can get SOME card this quarter, but they're not even going to consider AMD if they have no idea what to expect from them.
At least somewhat better is when someone buys old gen, I managed to snatch a 7900XT for a good price, but still it's minus one RDNA4 sale for AMD...
The release of the RTX 5070 is in February, which is the main competitor for the 9070.
Since the 5070 is a failure with only 12GB RAM, I think people will accept to wait a little longer for the 9070, if AMD announces a competitive price. You have to be a little damaged in the brain to buy a 12GB card in 2025.
In the end it's the price that matters, and AMD will find a way to f*ck things up.
I disagree all they have to do is be good value and it will be a winner
@@scratchy996 you realize not everyone is looking to play the latest 2025 releases, right? Calling people brain damaged for buying a certain gpu is ridiculous
@@denxx56 I guess people like to buy a new card every year, it's their decision, but it is pretty retarded. I I spend that much on a card, I want it to last for a two or three years.
Patiently waiting for a RX 9070xt...
why you can buy a 4070 Ti super with same performance with better RT
@@kennethpereyda5707 Because it's 200+ bucks more expensive. Especially now that they stop realising them.
@ what are you talking about ? You wanna buy a 700-800$ old generation than get the same one but cheaper ???
@@igm1571 well that's who AMD is comparing it to
@@igm1571 go ahead and buy the 970 XT, no one cares
AMD just needs good price/perf, and inventory at launch, and they'll have a good launch.
The problem is that they refuse to do that. They just keep undercutting Nvidia by a small margin and call it a day.
From what AMD engineers are saying on social media, they're finalizing drivers and FSR4 because they want zero issues at launch. FSR4 is looking very promising TBH. AMD is closing the gap on upscaling.
@@GSP-76 If that was truly the reason, I don't think they would've pulled out the last second. They are running scared with Nvidia's pricing.
BUT THEY WON'T
Oh okay, then they won’t have a good launch
I've lost all faith in people. People are STUPID STUPID STUPID. Buying a 5090 for $7000 God just when you think people couldnt get dumber. Yes, please just hold out because this tells nvidia that were willing to pay that much for cards and they can use it to influence their pricing. Cmon people be patient and don't be stupid.
Maybe they have a good job, and swimming in a big pool of money so they either dont care. Just want to have one.
People=Shit, as one beautiful ballad once said. Where you not informed of this fact?
@@rallyscoot If someone is retarded enough to pay 7k for a card, swimming in cash and just dont care.....why stop at one card? Buy a few more and start handing them out. Sharing is caring. ; )
Good way of money laundering wouldn’t you say.
You can't buy a 5090 yet.
Between NVIDIA's greed and AMD's constant tripping over themselves, I am getting really sick of these companies. Maybe at the very least the CEO's need to be sacked.
Intel already lost their c e o and amd c e o is the only reason the company still exists.
Nvidia's not gonna lose their CEO because he's a co. Founder, and the reason why nvidia is so rich.
What they need to do is get rid of Frank Azure, which has been a parasite at the radion group. Well, before lisa su became in charge, and for some reason, he seems to be unshakable from his top management position
Everyone at AMD needs to be sacked
Nobody cares what you think at AMD or Nvidia. They don't owe you a single thing and they certainly aren't going to fire their CEOs over your hurt feelings because you have to save extra money or wait an extra month or two.
@@MrMackievelli AMD is making dumbass decisions that hurt their ability to compete with Nvidia and ultimately hurt consumers he can criticize the both of them as much as he wants
@MrMackievelli so funny that this needs to be said 😂
I'm calling BS on AMD. They priced them too high, against Nvidia's 5070, and squandered the opportunity to stick Nvidia hard. They have plenty of cards already waiting in the warehouses of retailers. AMD needs to fire the executive that set pricing too high, because if they had come in under the 5070, tweaked FSR4 to create additional fake frames like DLSS4, and shown their 9070 was "as good as a 4090" by Nvidia's (and Jensen's) own CES standards - imagine how painful that late February launch would look for Nvidia if AMD had all of that, and a January 24th release? The drivers are fine, they were demoing games at CES. It's just greed, again, some idiot (same guy) who perpetually prices these cards too high at launch, forcing AMD to backtrack. What a shame.
AMD management acting like they have Nvidia stock 🤣😂🤣😂
To both "AMD needs to fire the executive that set pricing too high" and "AMD management acting like they have Nvidia stock", you are missing the fact that AMD has investors and they don't care how you make your money. They want their return on investment. They don't want the GPU department to handicap any other. They would rather AMD make as much money as possible rather than gain marketshare. Especially if that means diverting focus and allocating more funds to a risky bet on graphics.
AMD must make as much money as possible. Even if Radeon wants to grow marketshare.
It's shareholders first, then management, then marketing, if you wanna blame folks.
@@mickaelsflow6774 Always these shareholders................its sickening the market everywhere......................they are all about greed!
Fact is you are not gonna get a 5070 below 850 dollars
Growing market share = larger future profits and share price is based upon future expected earnings. Investors are a little savvier than you, it seems.
The delay of the 9070 is just AMD trying to come up with a justification for its high price. This card will not be cheap and will not provide the value people were hoping for. It will rely on fake frames to provide competitive performance. This is just the usual "Nvidia minus $50" that we see every launch and will again end up handing over more market share to Nvidia.
It's looking that way! They don't believe that the company that makes Ryzen, should have to charge cheaper prices.
Exactly. It was it is now expected of them.
It's likely, it's also weaker performance-wise than the leaks suggested!
I actually think this was a hardware bug being found at the last minute. We know they had cards at retailers in early January then suddenly at CES they wouldn't let their board partners say ANYTHING beyond how much ram was on the card. AMD gave up months of lead for this, and I just don't believe that they are that connected to having FSR4 on day 1. Even if their pricing was 'too high' after Nvidia's announcement, they could have kept their high price for the first month or two of sales then lowered it when Nvidia showed up. They got criticized in the 7000 series for showing up second AND having terrible pricing - you can get away with higher prices when you're the only option. If this IS NOT a hardware bug and actually is just drivers being half baked then AMD needs to do like ATi did back in the early 2000s and ruthlessly optimize their driver division - ATi had to do this before they became the strongest they ever were with the last 9000 series (e.g. the legendary 9700 pro), and AMD may need to do it again to eliminate the excuses that keep having their driver team unable to keep up with the silicon.
@@meekmeads what are you talking about bro? AMD claimed it to be round about 7900 xt performance, but the leaks suggested it to be on par with 4080 super performance...
Can someone please explain to me how those eBay listings aren’t fraud or false advertising?
Because they are advertised for what they are. You are buying a service, not a product.
I just want to replace my 1060 ;(...... I don't have faith in Nvidia anymore and don't think AMD will price the 90XX series right, I want Intel to release a B770 card
I think RX 9070 and RTX 5070 are going to be a good buy.
intel GPUs need a good CPU, so they’re not a great option for all budget-conscious consumers
@@buzzworddujour they have a good cpu though…… i5-14600k
@@galacticmarshin4510 That's not what he meant. He means that you need a high performant CPU for an Intel Card, such as 13th gen / 5700X3D, 7000 series CPUs and above.
Honestly just get a RX 6750 XT 12gb. Should run you around like 320 bucks and if your only running 1080p still will last you for years. It beats out the RTX 4060 in most games and has the extra crucial vram. Your going to absolutely love it coming from a 1060. I upgraded from 1060 to RX 6600 and loved it.
RX 9070 XT versus RX 7900 XTX is the ultimate question.
what the hell happened to this channel
how can you say so many words and sound so conceited
without actually saying much if anything at all
People who would pay 5k for a card with no returns or refunds are people with more money than brains; your plea to them will, sadly, mean nothing. But damn, if I snag one by chance, I'm selling it! Lol just kidding
Those are people that either have F U money or will be using the 5090 for AI work to make more money from it
@@Flyon86 There's supposed to be a 96GB Blackwell card coming out for AI work. Might be a lot of buyers remorse with the 5090s.
@ If they can make enough money to pay off the card in the meantime it's worth it for them
Me just waiting for rx7900xtx price drop...
NOBODY. NEEDS. TO. BUY. A. 5090. If you're dumb enough to buy a 5090 from a scalper on Day One for gaming only, then I have a bridge to sell you.
If you must have a GPU now, buy a cheap AMD or 40 series card to tide you over for say, 3-4 months, wait for the 50 series prices to settle and for the inevitable bugs to be fixed, and then pick up a 5070 or 5080. You do not need a 5090 for gaming any more than you need a Bugatti Chiron to pick up some groceries. If you're obsessed with having the best you possibly can for nothing other than bragging rights you can still get a 5090 in a couple of months bug-free and at reasonable prices. If you pay scalper prices on Day One all you're doing is screwing yourself and everybody else.
True in a way because getting a 5080 or 5070ti will be good for money, RTX 60 series (6060ti to 6070ti if there is) would easily match 5090 for performance with reduced price and better features.
"Settle"? Have you seen 4090 prices? They haven't settled yet, how long do we have to wait genius? My only advice is don't buy it if you can't actually afford it; think twice, 3x, or wait six years for those prices to "settle." By the way, have you ever heard of Tariffs? They could put a real kink in that plan of yours.
and you don't need 4k 240hz monitor .if you do then you're being played by the game. imagine playing one game for 5 years(cyberpunk).
Bug free? with that tiny power connector being pushed to the max, It's a bonfire waiting to happen.
@ I'm recommending waiting 3-4 months for prices to settle (i.e. not scalpers charging $7,000!) and for nVidia to patch any bugs that crop up in firmware. If your money is burning a hole in your pocket nobody is stopping you, but the first into battle are also the first casualties. The smart money waits for the opportune moment.
As for tariffs, Trump is targeting China specifically, not Taiwan. TSMC make the Blackwell chips in Taiwan, but the cards were being assembled in China. nVidia have already stockpiled cards to avoid tariffs and will likely move assembly to another country. It depends on a lot of factors; tariffs can be unpredictable that way.
But if all you're doing is gaming then you really don't need a 5090 anyway. There's no game that requires one, and won't be for years yet. If you insist on wasting your money, go right ahead - but I'm going to use mine to the best overall effect. The GPU is only one part of a computer, and I have four or five systems I want to upgrade.
AMD in the title and all about Nvidia until @5:52 ??????
Ikr lol
People upset at AMD for not releasing the GPUs yet are out of touch with reality... AMD might give that reason but they are aware how bad it could look for them after they saw Nvidia's info with their new series, the best they could do is hold a bit to release them and reduce a lot the negative impact they will receive. I think people shouldnt care to much about the release date but surely consider the pricing as a big factor here, if they dont place their cards at/below $500 they wont achieve anything with these new series.
At $500 amd would have sold out the first batch already and have to crank up produktion to meet demand. IMO they need the time to decide how to get us buying at $1000
Without a reference card, I'm not sure how AIB pricing would occur vs MSRP. Aren't they usually anchored to that with a certain amount extra for additional perf/cooling?
They use AMD’s MSRP. AMD didn’t release reference designs for multiple lower tier 7000 cards.
@@GamerMeld So if, say, AMD said the MSRP would be $599, then AIB versions would still start at $599 instead of, say, $649?
@@ixonal8843 that's up to the AIB. But if they start pricing too high above MSRP they'd just be shooting themselves in the foot. Who would buy a 9070XT for $650+ when the 5070 Ti exists
AMD AIBs always have a basic version that is at or close to MSRP.
@@theshadowoftruth7561 Ahh, ok. First time really following AMD for a release cycle, and it's been... interesting...
6:10 Huge W for AMD for sticking with 8-pin connectors. That shitty 12W power connector on Nvidia cards that is only rated for 30 inserts *_across the entire lifetime of the product_* can suck it.
Ebay is garbage, it's a waste of time looking for a good deal. Used products are being sold for very close to retail.
Wait for RTX 5000s hype to die out, build up some stock so that scalpers can't really do much and, most importantly, make sure drivers and all are polished before release.
I'd much rather wait march for a solid GPU at a really good price rather than getting a GPU full of issues and bad drivers in january.
my guess is most scalpers would be retail or online shop owners who will initially get rtx 50xx cards.. and willing to scalp huge amount of profits.. why would retail or online shop owner will sell rtx 50xx gpus for $30 to $50 profit.. when they can potentially sell gpus for $2k to $4k extra profit for a short term on a gpu release time window.. this is how scalping works on a retail basis... individual persons will scalp too as long they will get gpu
Current gen 80-class not beating the prev-gen 90-class is just pathetic. Nvidia fucked up.
This was my thoughts. Its an entire generation ahead but isn't benching better at the near-top spec, compared to the previous gen top-spec. It's one thing if the 5060 doesn't do better than a 4090; but there's simply no excuse for the 5080 to not beat the 4090 except if you wanted to push people into BOTH the 5090 _and_ the 4090 (when they can't get the 5080/90). If that's the case, then I'm glad I already switched from NVidia last gen. The only issue is that AMD is playing the copycat game.... I might be an ARC gamer here real soon if they keep up these stupid pro-scalper games while "saying" they don't like scalpers
15% is not enough of a jump to upgrade.
you aren't supposed to upgrade generation by generation anyway
@@FlopNonStop Unless the generation uplift is 50% or more. Like pascal was over maxwell.
If your current card is borderline 60fps on a new raytracing title, 15% is a lot
I have a 2080. This cards still feel underwhelming. I was planning to upgrade this year, not so sure anymore.
its good enough if you dont have latest gen gpus and you want to upgrade better perf les money
Ebay, Amazon, and every retail and second-hand Merchandise Sites are going to have to make it Illegal to sell These GPU's unless used. This is the only way to kill Scalping!!! Unless you are a Licensed Retailer!!!
omg.. AMD's marketing team should be made into a SNL skit
the only thing I care about is the temperature of these new cards. As a 3d modeler I don't care whether it gets an extra 3 fps in a game, I need to know if I'm sitting a furnace beside me on my desk.
What's STUPID is the people that are paying these prices. Just goes to show you that a lot of wealthy people have no brains. You would think that rich = smart but not so. If I were a billionaire, there's NO WAY I would make some scalper rich just because I could. My brain tells me to in NO WAY make a person like that wealthy and in fact, hope they get stuck with so much inventory that they lose their butts off trying to get rid of them, then laugh my a** off at their failure. Why would you EVER reward someone with morals like this? Don't pay a scalper and you punish them for their behavior, and it WILL stop but some people have way more money than common sense and you can't fix stupid. Just my two cents...
unless they are funding some of the scalpers themselves.. which isnt a farfetched idea
Rich people are not buying these, it's the irresponsible buying that the low income peopledo with a credit card, like fighting over a $600 pair of Air Jordans when they have $200 in the bank
its the same reason why pc flipper youtuburs rely so much on 3dmark to explain gaming performance to buyers. lots of pc gamers are really reliant on 3dmark rather than understanding pc hardware. if the comments aren't an indicator of industry-wide stupidity idk what else would.
That's the mentality you have without being a billionaire. Even if they were scalped at 10,000 dollars and you bought two you wouldnt even notice the money left your account if you were a billionaire.
@@LocalAutist I KNOW a millionaire. If you DON'T spend your money, it gets TAXED 40% and HIGHER! Your accountant will call to remind you to buy something or watch 400 HUNDRED THOUSAND dollars of your 1 Million go "POOF" to the government!!
Here in Malta Europe, 5080 pre-orders are open and being retailed for 1700euros.
Let's be real, Nvidea pricing got them shook.
Which pricing would that be? Literally the same as 4080 Super for 5080, while being barely any faster? Or is it that even before scalpers, the 5090 is now TWO FREAKING GRAND? You say this as if Nvidia has anywhere remotely near sane or affordable or gamer-friendly prices, lol.
@@nexarath RX 9070 performance will be similar to Geforce 5070, yet the price of 5070 is basically the same as planned price for 9070 - 549$. That means no one is going to buy 9070 over 5070 if they are same price and performance. Now AMD needs to go 50 - 100$ lower on pricing of 9070 and that is the real reason for the delay.
@@nexarath 5070 pricing. AMD can delulu themslevs that 9070xt will compete with 5070ti thus should be viewed on 5070ti prices, but everyone knows that people will compare both 9070 and xt to 5070 pricing. 9070xt would need to destroy 5070 and win in raster with 5070ti on 1440p in most games. It won't happen
@@blade1989222supposedly the 9070 should be around 4080s
Yes thats true AMD bailed when they heard the price of 5070
Price and supply will dictate if the RX9000 series will be a success or a flop.
If MSRP is too high it's a flop, if supply is not high enough where scalpers can literally buy them all up and jack up the price, that's another failure.
It will flop. This is AMD scrambling to justify their high price. I can guarantee that this will be another abysmal launch.
@@catmeow11111hey nvidia fan boy, we get it😂
@@catmeow11111 Who cares, not like you're buying one.
@@GSP-76 I've been buying Radeon for over 15 years. You can kindly see yourself out the door.
@ And? Your point? Let me guess, their drivers suck and you had nothing but a shitty experience, constant crashing, random reboots, black screens, etc. but yet kept buying their video cards anyway for another 14 years?
I'm new to the pc space. Can someone explain why a 15% uplift is considered disappointing for a similar if not cheaper price? What percentage uplift is considered acceptable for new generation gpus?
Well from what I understand each gpu generation or from a certain point on the uplift was 25+% and I guess people got used to it and expected it for each generation going forward. So when a gpu is on the more expensive side people expect a greater than a 15% boost but I would guess that most people are upgrading from older pc parts so their boost will be much greater than 15% but if they have the last generation parts they may be disappointed so they can do this one simple thing. Not buy the gpu and to me this is an exaggerated issue
I think people are just a bit disappointed since the 4000 series were a big generational leap what people might not know that was also due to a node shrink so basically what that means was that nvidia had an advantage in a way and were able to use new architecture to be more efficient in terms of speed and efficiency and they are still using the same architecture this 5000 series generation and they cant really push it to its limits anymore so what they have kind of just done is just thrown a bit more power at it so the 5000 series will have more power draw than 4000 series hence the efficiency is kind of lost since the 4000 series had a relatively good speed/power differentiation.
a 15% uplift isnt necessarily enough to justify buying the new generation of cards IF you have the best of last generation. buying new, a 15% uplift is incredible value. not so much if i already have 1500 invested when other hardware is the bottleneck.
I WANT THE $350.00 TO $450.00 CARDS BACK DAMN IT!!!! LOL
Power draw is way up. People not happy
Do we know the price for the 9070 yet?
Nvidia's RTX 5080 seems very underwhelming compared to the last gen. Not sure what I'm buying this time. Though I stream on twitch and AMD cards are horrible for broadcasting.
Should i buy rx 7900 xtx or wait for 9000 series?
I would wait and see first ,but that just me
Wait for benchmarks and stuff, then make an informed decision. :)
5:02, whats the purpose of this camera????
i don't buy it. i think it has everything to do with adjusting prices to respond to nvidia's 5060 card. They also need to set new wholesale prices and decide how to reimburse early wholesale purchase by major retailers like microcenter and best buy
the only time I will pay for a gaming GPU for $7,000 if it has real silver as a heatsink
Although it's easy to believe that the drivers were not ready, it's AMD after all, I think down the line we're going to hear that they had to refund the AIBs because they charged too much for the cards vs Ngreedia. Don't expect good pricing and wait for a sale IMO. We'll see.
I'm beginning to think you may be right. I'm a 7900xtx owner so not an Nvidia fanboy. Some rumors have said that AMD was planning to sell this mid tier card for $1000. I'm not sure what is going on with Radeon anymore. Something needs to change big time. The GPU market is screwed. I really wish people would just out right skip this generation from both companies. The only way this changes is if nobody buys these cards but this won't happen. The idiots over in the digital foundries comments believe Nvidia is producing magic when all they are doing is providing a 20 series uplift and charging a fortune for it.
Software is ready driver wise. I believe they're adding more games to FSR4. FSR4 is looking very promising so it's understandable they want to showcase the 9070xt as supporting bigger name games with full FSR4 support.
The problem I have with that explanation is that Nvidia pricing is not good at all when you compare it with the 40 super cards.
What the hell was AMD expecting?
Nvidia to release the 5070ti for 1000$?
@ it's $749, lol. Nvidia pricing a 70 series card at $1k is not out of the realm of possibility.
@@GSP-76 sadly so
The fact that the 5080 is worse than the 4090 is seriously disappointing. 50 series is a joke.
To solve pricing issues, Buyers need to boycott until they reduce the price. Boycott works
No
@MrAnimescrazy not if only some people does it, need to have the majority take action
I'm happy you told everyone to hold off. I put balm on Nivida too. Don't release until you have stock. DONT buy AT high prices, and it will come down when nobody is buying it. One more why did they stop production of the 4090? That really pisses me off.
I used to watch every single video u used to release back before the flooting head.
It was fast informative and useful.
Now I skip a video more than not and many times quit watch half way threw.
AMD is done!
Nvidia has no competition from AMD's broken RDNA tech. In fact AMD canceled broken RDNA5. Fact!
Now Nvidia is ripping off everyone buying over priced RTX 5000 series, without magic Fake Frames with artifacts takes away bragging rights of fake performance.
2025 sad times for us gaming consumers.
Both RX 9070XT & RTX 5070Ti trying to complete against the two years old regular RTX 4080 16GB is really sad ☹️
Cheers 🥂 🍻 🍸 🍹
I do have hope that the delay works out in everyone's favor. As for AMD not releasing there own in house design, I think that will be better for us and the AIB's - the AIB's aren't being disadvantaged/undermined by the chip maker they are building for.
How much is the box?
after NVIDIA release... we are all waiting to see what AMD will offer
I cap my fps at 300 fps on 1440p on a 360hz monitor. 6950 xt oc formula....is it necessary to upgrade?
If you get enough fps in the games you play then no don't upgrade but if you are not then upgrade
Only you can decide whenever it is necessary or not to upgrade. You seem to mistakenly think that with new gpu released your gpu become worse. It is not, as long as your gaming requirements are satisfied you're all good.
It's near never necessary to upgrade. Necessary is ONLY when your PC specs are close to (or below) minimum requirments of games you want to play. In other scenarios is "Do I want to upgrade and do I have money to do so?"
@ladrok97 I'm aware. I was mostly just showing that there are other options.. I get great performance on a card from 2 generations ago.
@@chrisknight3481 to be fair, 6950 xt had 1100$ of recommended price at the release and uses 335 Watt. I'd be surprised if it wasn't enough for gaming after just 2 generations
The 9070XT price should be much lower than the 5070 otherwise no one will buy it
I'll never understand these people who must get stuff right away on release especially the ones who's buying from scalpels.
Every time scalpers sells video cards for insane prices nvidia see that people will pay scalper prices and then raises the msrp on their own cards.
I just hope the cards are priced aggressively. If AMD is going to go position itself against the 70 class card from nVidia, where I don't expect the volume to be a problem, it really needs to price the card to offer incredible value from the start, and not do the usual rebate 2 months in after all the reviews have dropped and people have calculated the cost per frame with the launch MSRP.
nVidia can charge a premium because right now they own the market, AMD can't. AMD has proved time and time again they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, I hope they change that this generation. Since they're using GDDR6 (not 6X or 7), the cards can't just be $50 less than the 5070. Also, I hope that they didn't cut down the 60-class card too much because then they will be going against Intel's offerings.
I'm excited for my 7900xt I got black Friday, maybe next 5 years from now ill be excited again.
Sensible guy....👍
Curious about the 80 apparently getting some actual uplift aside from core count increase, whereas the 90s uplift fails to match the core count increase even while allegedly not being bottlenecked. In addition, some actual uplift would seem like good news that they would want out there and not something that would inspire the last minute delay to the embargo. That makes me suspect of these benchmark leaks.
Had really annoying driver issues with my 5700XT for months after getting it. It's time for an upgrade and I'll be reviewing driver/software stability before jumping in this time. Waiting on the RX9000 series with bated breath!
People are stupid and scalpers will get there Karma one day. If you don't buy d=from the scalpers they will be left holding the bag and eventually have to sell the cards at a loss
Its so easy to separate idiots from their money.
I honestly feel the 9070 XT should be the same price as the 7800 XT only because if the performance leaks are true that it's between a 7900 XTX and 7900 XT and the RTX 5070 ends up performing close to a 4070 Ti - 4070 Super, makes the card a bit more valuable
Bro the 5000s just got announced and we already got info on 9000s 😭
Another reason is to work out with retails and partners on back pay, since they were supposed to be more expensive than what will now release at partners and retailers have already spent that money so now they need a slight refund so the cards can be priced lower.
A retailer here in Denmark (Europe) has listed the RX9070XT at 1030$ (without VAT). I sure hope it’s a placeholder price.
Sounds about the right! How much is 5070ti? 1400€?
So 400€ cheaper?
you're such a chill person to listen to, that i ended up spacing out through the whole video. will watch a second time
skull
Man that sucks that amd won't do a reference design. I happen to like their reference cards.
XTX refference design with faulty vapor chamber: Hello 👋
I like how this guy is always talking and doing exaggerated hand movements like he's hosting a channel for toddlers. I'm not sure how many children watch videos on graphics card news, but I'm sure it can't be many.
0:57 Why tf would anyone spend that much money on just 27% faster than a 4090? 😐
Cause fanboyism and missinformed non-tech people
Because 4090 cost at this moment $2500 to $3500!
So 5090 at $4000 makese Sense to those customers… maybe even more!
@@haukikannel I think scalpers are just delusional.
@
Did you see… $3000 5090 5 bids allready!
= profit!
It's smart for AMD to wait until after NVidia releases the 5000 series, otherwise nobody would even notice. It's better to wait for the hype to die down and for people to realize they can't drop $5k on a GPU.
You can do a lot with $5000.
That's a entire month worth of groceries
@@doublecrossedswine112 Jesus what kind of groceries are you buying for 5k a month ? 😂
@ I eat laughter and I have a tapeworm. I do have panic attacks going to grocery store though. We are way out of hand with corporate greed fo sho.
You can build an entire computer WITH a 4090, for 5k.... and have spare change.
people.... I wouldn't buy a new graphics card unless the performance is at least 50% increase in performance, at a minimum.... but wasting this kind of money for you to play games or even video editing.. the benefits are pretty negligible at best to justify paying these prices.
I hate people placing 3k bids, these people are the reason scalping exists. Just wait a damn week or two
As strange as it may sound, since the Geforce App already requires an account then why not make it so you have to verify and tie your card to your account for a set amount of time? Like its only 1 per account unless you are a proven OEM/Licensed distributor with proof of business and you need to wait a 6 month grace period before you could resell the card to someone else (unless OEM/Licensed distributor). The mass influx of spam accounts to get the card would be picked up internally almost immediately if they are from the exact same IP or machine and banned. If resold early it just gets locked in bios until the timer runs out? That would still allow for resale of the card in the future, allow for custom integrator's to make their towers, but completely halt 90% of online scalpers while keeping stock stable. Nobody wants to buy a locked card so they cant sell it.
Idk just a thought.
My beloved 1660ti lasted this long and I'm sure it can last even longer if the need arises.
That reference design looks pretty good. I'm kind of sad they aren't going to release it.
I hope the rx 9000 series will give me better value than the 7800 xt I'm holding off on buying
keep waiting this is a bad time for buy
Im in the literal same boat man
Holding off?
I checked Newegg....ZERO stock of 7800XT and 7900GRE.
They sold out of all their cards prior to releasing the new cards.
It seems similar for NVDA leaving the market barren.
You should have gotten a RX 7900 XTX. It's still a fabulous card.
Same boat here too. Got everything except my GPU. Held off on all the Black Friday deals because I thought at least the AMD cards would be out in Jan. Now I’m leaning towards a 5070ti but with the scalper issue it might be months before any cards are available at sane prices
if anything the scalpers show that Nvidia still has a lot of headroom when it comes to GPU pricing
That's a clear message to Nvidia that they are on the right way: just raise prices next time as well!
RTX 6090 -> 2500-3000$ MSRP
Scalping would stop if they build to order. So everyone puts in their order and they get you the card when built.
I'm not sure if you've enabled a specific option or if TH-cam is just trying something weird, but your channel is the only one where videos get automatically translated into my native language. It's so annoying to always have to switch it back to the original language! Other than that keep up with the news!
Even if gamers miraculously had the self control to not feed the scalpers, those who want the cards for AI will absolutely give them what they want.
Some weeks ago, I was sure that the only advantage the RTX 5000 series will bring will be cheaper RTX 4000 cards. Come the spring, I'll get my hands on a used 4080 for 4070 money.
Hey, I know it sucks not to be able to update daily, but just be a little bit patient. Hope you see that this is not helping.
Q: How do you beat scalpers?
A: With a hammer
I call BS on the delay reason. I think they have waited to see if they look to be competitive with 50 series and aren't directly competitive on price or performance. They are delaying to build inventory (shops are already stocking) and will attempt to compete on availability. When you can't get that 5070 you wanted, turn to AMD.
I couldn't get a 4090 last time around, so I went with AMD. It was cheaper, similar performance since I don't do 4k or RT, and it was cheaper.
This time, since I already have a 7900XTX, and i'm building a 2nd PC for someone else that doesn't have to be assembled until christmas... I'm looking for price mostly. (They will get the 7900XTX and I will get the new card, if the NATIVE RASTER benchmarks are good).
@@randomuserame I got very tempted by the 7900XTX, especially the saphire nitro+, looks fantastic!
Two of the things im interested in are 4k and RT however. So I've been holding out to see what this year is going to bring. I just wish AMD would give me a good reason to wait to the end of March! my GTX980 desperatly wants replacing
The PC used and aftermarket is more broken than the retail market. I was looking to get a 5800x3D for my MOBO, and every listed price was the same as a 9800x3D
In 2 years thats actually crazy. 15 percent just doesnt cut it.
Dude, frame generation is not performance boost. Please, you dont get extra artifacts for performance boost, it doesn't improve fluidity in fast pacing game either 😂
I love how there's some morons out there that think the best gpu at any cost is as important as air and water. Thanks for screwing the rest of us with your bad impulse control.
No returns or refunds - don’t buy it it’s a toster or a brick
Tired of all the “but AMD sucking is all part of the plan!” Cope
I'm buying AMD. nVIDIA may have the top card, but AMD has a lot more bang for the buck.
@@Trifler500 That doesn't mean that they're great though. In my country AMD analogs cost a little bit more than most of nVidia gpus. Not to mention that nVidia is usually better in software like rendering or modeling. Not everyone needs it, but for some people it's more necessary than a few more fps in game.
@@NothingMeansNothingButNothing Nvidia drivers are not any better than AMD's. The driver software for AMD is far better than that garbage Nvidia app they're peddling now.
@@Trifler500 that's funny keep them coming
@@GSP-76 jealous much ?
AMD is not better, just cheaper, sometimes
i think AMD just want to charge more for each card. but seems they never aware that they need a real price drop to break the Nvidia first trend.
People are so dumb when it comes to this. If we the consumer don’t buy it the prices will drop.
If its true that this reference design is not releasing, im really disappointed.
Where's the price leak on the RX9000 series?
It’s evident that AMD aims to have people refute the false claims made by Nvidia and then present concrete data about their graphics cards, which are priced similarly to the base models.
Is the new AMD card better than the 7900xtx ?
No. Its 7900xt raster perf with better raytracing. Benchmarks are a tie with 7900xtx in Ray tracing.
According to leaks it just falls short of the XTX but beats it in RT heavy workload. The kicker should be the price as XTX is still super overpriced.
its probably just nvidia trying to test sell them at $6000 to see if it gets any bites, then work out pricing for their cards in the future. if people are willing to spend $6k on a gpu nvidia can charge what ever they like cause they will always get someone who will buy it at that price.
Waiting to see NVidias hand on their 5000 series.