As a tip for applying basing materials; you'll get a stronger bond if you start with the largest bits and work your way down to the finest. If you're using any sort of scenic elements, i.e. weapons, tree trunks, brances, etc. just glue them on first, then spread your white glue (full strength) and add larger pebbles, cork, etc. then medium, and finally your finest basing materials. This ensures that the large pieces have enough glue/surface to attach to, since the fine grain sand would otherwise form a layer between the glue and your rocks/pebbles/cork and soak up a lot of the glue.
fun solution for 2:31 - this has happened to me in differewnt circumstances and in bigger chunks coming off, and filling the holes in with Agrellan Earth at the basecoat stage was a game changer for me. the height difference of glue and sand vs. Agrellan Earth right on the base sold the "dried out muddy ground" look so well. Btw basing is pretty much my favorite part.
+Watch It Played Thanks!! I checked out your channel last week as I was researching Blood Rage. Your videos are amazingly narrated and very high quality. Your preproduction skills must be off the charts!
+SDub you should do a collab with SDub where he paints miniatures for one of the games you demo. You could even do something like giving away the painted game when your done. #freemarketingtips
It bears mention that practically all dirt, sand, or pebbles MUST get painted. Naked dirt on a 28mm mini almost never looks like it did under our own feet outside: shading is required to give your mini a good, finished look.
This is to show you im dedicated to become a viewer love your work, I've been a sub on and off so many times because of that outtro and jump over your vids only for that freaking PTSD shock at the outtro xD just hope the best for ya' I know you dont need me, but your new vid I saw on the updates made me feel compelled :) FOR THE ALGORITHM!
Most of the minis I'm painting are for the Descent game. This comes with a variety of board pieces with stone, grass, dirt paths, lava, water, etc that changes every game. The OCD in me refuses to let me do basing at all because if I base an enemy with sand and grass, and then the game spawn that enemy into a stone or lava dungeon... the OCD is going to crap a brick. I also use the base colors to denote the regular mobs vs the elite mobs (elites are red, regular are black). I really want to do some fun basing, but I know the first time the base didn't match the board I'd want to flip the table, lol.
Hey you did the base after you painted this mini, but in your Eavy Metal space marine videos you did the base and "pinned" the mini onto it afterward. Do you just drill holes in the bases and glue the mini onto a paper clip or what?
All this time I thought you liked Blood Angels (even tho you say all the time you hate marines) now I know its probably one of the guys you painted for your friend! What a twist lol
Pretty much a noob here. What did you use for the dirt? Was that dirt from outside or did you buy something? The dirt around here is not going to work well, I think, so I need to pick something up.
yeah I primarily use hobby sand of various granular sizes. dirt works well, you just need to let it dry out. if there's a lot of clay in your dirt, however, that would probably be an issue. thanks for watching!
hi there! never painted anything before... so maybe lame question... but the grass you used is some kind of sintetic thing or real grass? if i use real grass or real branches is it possible to fix them to a plastic kind of durability?
Synthetic grass. I imagine real grass will probably start to rot or at least get very soggy and limp with the glue. Branches would probably have a similar problem but maybe if you properly dry them out and treat them with a varnish they might work. Personally I'd rather just pay a couple of quid for the plastic terrain and save myself the wait and possible headaches
Great video series! Liked & Sub'd:) If you didn't put your base material down before priming, do you do it after varnishing the mini? I use Army Painter Varnish/washes and have bought a lot of scenic grasses/tufts/etc. Do I just put them over the top of dried varnish? Do I need to lightly sand/scratch the varnish? I see you put the grasses & clumps on last. Do you spray or add any protector over them or not? Thanks
I know this is a really old video, but I'm completely new to the hobby and have a question on this topic. Is it a good idea or a bad idea to do the basing before putting the model on the base? Also as an unrelated note, I got way too excited to see a comment from Watch It Played! I didn't know Rodney was into miniatures, and I'm kinda surprised he didn't just ask Jamie Kaegy for help!
Welcome to the hobby! It's not a bad idea and a lot of pro painters paint the bases separately from the model because it makes it easier to paint the detail on a model's underside. For rank and file army painting this often isn't necessary, unless your bases and models are getting rattle can primed in different colors (black armored Chaos Warriors on a white winter base for example) The key to remember is the bond from gluing your model to the layer of basing texture generally won't be as strong as if you glue it directly to the base, since its only as strong as your basing material is adhered to itself/the base. Make sure to use superglue and consider pinning it if you can!
Looks like you got static grass instead of simple flock. Soooooooooo you need a static grass applicator. Otherwise you’re grass looks like a flat piece of crabgrass. Ew.
As a tip for applying basing materials; you'll get a stronger bond if you start with the largest bits and work your way down to the finest. If you're using any sort of scenic elements, i.e. weapons, tree trunks, brances, etc. just glue them on first, then spread your white glue (full strength) and add larger pebbles, cork, etc. then medium, and finally your finest basing materials. This ensures that the large pieces have enough glue/surface to attach to, since the fine grain sand would otherwise form a layer between the glue and your rocks/pebbles/cork and soak up a lot of the glue.
we have come a long way since peacefull Scott. Nothing wrong with current, but boy does time sure change us all!
Why are your videos so high quality? I need to watch all of them now.
Haha! Do so! Enjoy :)
fun solution for 2:31 - this has happened to me in differewnt circumstances and in bigger chunks coming off, and filling the holes in with Agrellan Earth at the basecoat stage was a game changer for me. the height difference of glue and sand vs. Agrellan Earth right on the base sold the "dried out muddy ground" look so well.
Btw basing is pretty much my favorite part.
Super helpful as usual and great timing as I'm about to base some miniatures. Great work!
+Watch It Played Thanks!! I checked out your channel last week as I was researching Blood Rage. Your videos are amazingly narrated and very high quality. Your preproduction skills must be off the charts!
+SDub Blood Rage: Now there's a game that would look great with painted miniatures! Thanks for the kind words about the videos :)
+SDub you should do a collab with SDub where he paints miniatures for one of the games you demo. You could even do something like giving away the painted game when your done. #freemarketingtips
this is kind of a throwback. really helpful vid thanks Mr Miniac.
It bears mention that practically all dirt, sand, or pebbles MUST get painted. Naked dirt on a 28mm mini almost never looks like it did under our own feet outside: shading is required to give your mini a good, finished look.
Thanks!
how far you have come brother !
MORE BASE VIDEOS!!! 2019 NEEDS YOU!!
This is to show you im dedicated to become a viewer love your work,
I've been a sub on and off so many times because of that outtro and jump over your vids only for that freaking PTSD shock at the outtro xD just hope the best for ya' I know you dont need me, but your new vid I saw on the updates made me feel compelled :) FOR THE ALGORITHM!
Nice video. Really simple and easy to follow. Thanks!
love the testament shirt long live metal
thumbs for sorastro shout out...and yeah great educational value for basing technique also :D
More great work as usual. Very comprehensive but concise at the same time. Thanks!
+Andrew Petyo Thank you and thanks for watching! :)
Most of the minis I'm painting are for the Descent game. This comes with a variety of board pieces with stone, grass, dirt paths, lava, water, etc that changes every game. The OCD in me refuses to let me do basing at all because if I base an enemy with sand and grass, and then the game spawn that enemy into a stone or lava dungeon... the OCD is going to crap a brick. I also use the base colors to denote the regular mobs vs the elite mobs (elites are red, regular are black). I really want to do some fun basing, but I know the first time the base didn't match the board I'd want to flip the table, lol.
Shit that looked simple! I need to go find some dirt!
The T-shirt though
Excellent video. Thank you
Thanks for the feature at the end! Awesome vid!
+Davis Allan No problem! Thanks for sharing your minis with me :)
on a whim i thinned my pva glue with glaze medium, and holely crap that sand aint coming off any time soon
LOL. I saw Testament in concert in 1991 :P
Saw them in 2009 or so, great show!
I love Souls of Black!
Nature is nature. So true :-)
If you want your base to match any terrain/mat then just get the same size clear base online.
That's cheating!
Hey you did the base after you painted this mini, but in your Eavy Metal space marine videos you did the base and "pinned" the mini onto it afterward.
Do you just drill holes in the bases and glue the mini onto a paper clip or what?
WarBoy Yes, I drilled holes into the finished base and then pinned the miniature into the holes with paper clip material and super glue.
SDub Thank you sah!
Super helpful. Thanks.
All this time I thought you liked Blood Angels (even tho you say all the time you hate marines) now I know its probably one of the guys you painted for your friend! What a twist lol
From the chaos of the grim dark future where there is only *insert agresive screaming of paint more minis '
what make is your pin vice please
Making a mixed order army so basing might be the crucial bit to unifying them
Pretty much a noob here. What did you use for the dirt? Was that dirt from outside or did you buy something? The dirt around here is not going to work well, I think, so I need to pick something up.
yeah I primarily use hobby sand of various granular sizes. dirt works well, you just need to let it dry out. if there's a lot of clay in your dirt, however, that would probably be an issue. thanks for watching!
what where those things that you can stick onto the bases that had the skeleton and other stuff
hi there! never painted anything before... so maybe lame question... but the grass you used is some kind of sintetic thing or real grass? if i use real grass or real branches is it possible to fix them to a plastic kind of durability?
Synthetic grass. I imagine real grass will probably start to rot or at least get very soggy and limp with the glue. Branches would probably have a similar problem but maybe if you properly dry them out and treat them with a varnish they might work.
Personally I'd rather just pay a couple of quid for the plastic terrain and save myself the wait and possible headaches
@@davidmcloughlin6547 thank you .
Great video series! Liked & Sub'd:) If you didn't put your base material down before priming, do you do it after varnishing the mini? I use Army Painter Varnish/washes and have bought a lot of scenic grasses/tufts/etc. Do I just put them over the top of dried varnish? Do I need to lightly sand/scratch the varnish? I see you put the grasses & clumps on last. Do you spray or add any protector over them or not? Thanks
It doesn't really matter a lot. Use super glue to adhere it, put it on before or after.
What static grass do you recommend?
Harris Wilson army painter
Thanks Ben Aflec
I blew my grass of over the box of grass and got grass all over my face.
Thoughts on Citadel texture paints?
Cinderheart MLP saves some time, but ultimately a waste of money
the snow looks terrible
Some are good such as astrogranite and crackle paint
Fuggen Based.
Damn I read blessing.
I know this is a really old video, but I'm completely new to the hobby and have a question on this topic. Is it a good idea or a bad idea to do the basing before putting the model on the base?
Also as an unrelated note, I got way too excited to see a comment from Watch It Played! I didn't know Rodney was into miniatures, and I'm kinda surprised he didn't just ask Jamie Kaegy for help!
Welcome to the hobby! It's not a bad idea and a lot of pro painters paint the bases separately from the model because it makes it easier to paint the detail on a model's underside. For rank and file army painting this often isn't necessary, unless your bases and models are getting rattle can primed in different colors (black armored Chaos Warriors on a white winter base for example)
The key to remember is the bond from gluing your model to the layer of basing texture generally won't be as strong as if you glue it directly to the base, since its only as strong as your basing material is adhered to itself/the base. Make sure to use superglue and consider pinning it if you can!
@@benweinberg3819 thank you very much for the advice!
Hey,9
Wow this is so flat co pared to your current content but you can still see you style comming though ots amazing
Based. Based on what?
Shhhhhhhhhhh
Looks like you got static grass instead of simple flock. Soooooooooo you need a static grass applicator. Otherwise you’re grass looks like a flat piece of crabgrass. Ew.
ew