1430 Wind Turbine On Magnetic Bearings
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You sure are a Prolific Inventor and experimenter of the highest order, thank you for excellent content. Cheers from the USA 🇺🇲
right back at you mate - I subscribed - cheers
@@ThinkingandTinkering Absolutely made my day, I have watched all your videos for years, I like every single one and have learned a ton from you.
Glad to see this was not a long winded explanation and to that you show how it operates rather than just blowing hot air
lol - I was tempted mate lol
I knew it was a matter of time for you to make the magnetic bearing a generator so cool you made it modular
lol - I am an open book
@@ThinkingandTinkering it is kinda scary when you start thinking idea like this and start googling has anyone done this before and of course u have.. But weird thing this is like third time when this happens.
Well, that demo certainly “blew” my mind! 😂
For the flywheel aspect. You could add a heavy metal ring to it. Rather than a heavier disk. Still applies a lot of stored momentum. But, it's less ineffective weight.
I love your teachings, thank you, Heres my first project a while back. Going to build a bigger one soon... need some serious magnets lol
Once properly balanced you will get a longer harvest time but I love that you added the squirrel cage for harvesting in mild breezes. Imagine this on a larger scale in a decent wind.
Very cool. Especially like the innovative idea of using a ball point pen as a tiny bearing.
A needle tip would work even better, but a pen tip has the benefit of already having been made to center.
oddly enough a needle tip doesn't work better - I tried it
cheers mate
Get yourself a squirrel
Infinite energy for peanuts
lol - that is all that is needed really and with world demand we would create for small wildlife it would be double green!
That is very cool low power device. Another nice video!
i've built the basic version and it looks great on my desk. thanks for sharing this project
glad you liked it mate and quedos on you for building a version
Best design for wind harnessing is high altitude dual generator axial blimp with fins thats tethered on a swivel. It also has the benefit of lowering during inclement weather
heya, do you have a link to what you are describing? I would like to see how it looks like and how it works.
@@Dimology it has been a while they were bought out, think they were called maegen from Canada. They had 100kw versions all you had to do was pour a concrete pad and fill with helium
they were called magenn mate - it was a kite system - I believe they raised US$5 million then had stability issues they couldn't solve and quietly went out of business
@@ThinkingandTinkering glad somebody else remembered them, yea the US wouldnt give them faa clearance
Simply BRILLIANT! Well done Sir, well done!
Brilliant... Looks like a fun little project I could do with my boys.
it would be an awesome one for you and your boys
Good job , I always find your videos interesting . Thank for sharing your knowledge .
This is magnificent.
Cool. I would be interested in seeing axial magnetic bearing , for an example for vawt ; how it would be "held" in place with (variable) radial forces , like wind , without constant speed and/or direction ?
I don't know - but interesting challenge = give it a go
Thank you :)
Wonderful! I guess it's time to build! 🙌
Fantastic! Lots of possibilities!
absolutely
I had an idea like this about 10 years ago. Only it wasn't for energy generation. It was for sound reproduction. Basically a floating speaker.
PERPETUAL MACHINE.
😆awesome Robert , ya just made a joke out of what everyone was thinking 😅😅
The concept is very impressive. The dad joke made my day 😁🤣💨💨💨
lol - cheers mate - on both accounts lol
Ditto 🙈 And a comment for yt ai.
Thanks for another great video, I don’t comment often here but It never ceases to amaze me, learning all the time ! Lol 😂 yup that was a hell of a blow j@b !!
cheers mate and I just couldn't resist the joke
Man. I wish I could share a design I've been working on with you. You have all the things it would take to complete the prototype and I think you would agree that the concept itself is pretty cool. It's crazy how many of your videos are exactly the type of projects I've been interested in. It's like we're both on the same page so to speak. Maybe I'll send you an email and we can discuss it further. Cool videos and thank you for sharing your know how with us. It's people like you who inspire me to want to finish this project once and for all.
Funny, I was thinking about how to make this work for a wind turbine before I saw this video.
I like it next how to keep bearing stable in real wind conditions then you got it . respect xx
Could you use another magnet and the end instead of the ballpoint pen . So they are all say north to the left , well where the pen is hitting the wall have a magnet on the wall with north to the right. Thanks for all your great uploads. Respect from Ireland
give it a go mate
Fabulous
THAT is almost exactly what I was thinking of doing with mine once I get it constructed. I am going to use a much thicker wire around it so that I have less resistance to work with and I should see some pretty steady generation.
Once I include a capacitor there should be a stable storage system for the unit and if the wind gets it turning 'like the Dickens' then it shouldn't really need a dump load(not that those are difficult to put it honestly.
nice mate
“ It’s about as straight as a dog’s hind leg which is OK with me because we are just counter proofing, and so…” ❤️🤷♂️🤓🖖
I am sorry mate emoticons mean absolutely nothing to me. lol - I don't really get what you are saying I am afraid
i love all your work been subscribed for a while you make thinks look so simple, would there be a way to give it a magnetic cushion rather than a squeaky ball point pen
I was experimenting w/ some magnet bearings such as that and I had pretty good success driving it w/ a bedini motor. What I was trying to do next is what you did here, putting an axial flux rotor on to act as a flywheel and see if it would generate electricity, but I've been having a hard time coming up w/ a magnet/coil plan as I do not understand coil theory and can't find any good sources that explain it. ie how thick of wire, how many windings to give you X volts or Y amps.
The only problem w/ that magnet bearing is that you can't really give it any side loading, so you can't connect it to a belt/chain to drive anything and I'd think real world wind may knock it off as well.
I'd like you to do a video on the big eureka energy machine or the energy bat copy of Joseph Newmans power plant.
Have you? Would you? I was told we just couldn't measure all it's energy in the eighties.
Maybe you could shine a light on the parts.
this is great Robert !!! How about trying your Daisy wheel with your ink and a lightbulb?
that would work just fine mate - I did try it
Nice, yes, a flywheel to smooth out things will be awesome. How structurally secure are the bearings? Some rogue wind won't knock that apart could it? That would be a blow job gone bad!
Thanks always.
LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I'm still wondering if another magnet could be used on the end. To possibly have the same effect as the pen 🖊.
Regardless I am thinking again. This is why I love your videos. I am building an air compressor from an old 3hp gasoline edger. I have to put a new carburetor on the engine first.
I like the sound of the build you are doing there mate - I have heard no on the magnet front and it is mostly explained why not by Earnshaws theorem - I haven't tried it
Rob, this is great stuff. Do you know if there's a way to calculate the size & strength of the required magnets for a given amount of weight? I've been thinking of something like this but have met two stumbling blocks... finding ring magnets that are magnetized the right way... they are mostly magnetized as you've shown, but thought it would be best to have the outer diameter N/S and inner diameter S/N, that way the outer diameter pole would be repelled uniformly... the other stumbling block is determining size required (in Gauss? or Tesla? units) thanks again!
radially magnetised magnets are rare and expensive mate - I looked at one with the right diameter and it was UK£245 and I needed two - wow - I think it is because they don't make that many of them so as 'one off' it is expensive - eclipse magnets will custom make a magnet for you but again it's expensive - the only thing I can think of is to use bar magnets with opposite faces as north/south and construct an approximation - the field wouldn't be uniform so there would be a dare of 'bounce' but the larger the circle and the smaller the bar magnet then the better it would approximate a circle
Wow, never expected that the bearings would make such a difference in efficiency. This could actually be a big boon for wind power.
it would indeed
Could you use magnetic bearings at either end the same way you did with the speaker flywheel in order to stabilize it without friction?
Great idea! How is the E-bike treating you?
I am actually still using it! and I still find it fun
Ever tried making another with the plate being replaced with the other setup. So they push into one another?
Why do you need the end contact point instead of trapping it laterally with another ring of permanent magnets on either side of the flywheel?
Great project, Rob! I think I need a cigarette after that, lol! Would be cool to see a mockup the same concept, but with bearings! A side by side comparison would be awesome!
for sure mate - fancy giving it a go?
@@ThinkingandTinkering I don't know if you've ever looked at your profession from my point of view or not, but here you go! I have limited resources, money and most importantly time! I do have enough in-between time available to experiment through you! It's your journey that I get to experience along with you! Plus, it's very entertaining! I always end your videos beaming from ear to ear! Some day when I retire and the kids are older I can hit the ground running with the knowledge I picked up from you! Thanks!
Just wondering if it is already possible to create magnetic bearings usable on cars.
Kinetic battery with low prection will be great I believe great job....
cheers mate
finally, Waters turbine...
yep lol
The irony of the zero resistance bearing is the wind resistance increase of the wind capture device. Maybe best to enclose?
Put it in a vacuum lol
It looks like you have too much friction though... try adding magnets that push on bolth sides for total levitation
Multiple Coils would be continuous light?
Is it possible to use pyrolytic carbon instead of the magnets that are in the axle bar there, given that you would use atleast 4 magnets (maybe 6 or 8 to make it more stable) per side so that the bar would be surrounded from all sides by those magnets?
with pyrolytic carbon you are looking a the diamagnetic effect - it's a pretty weak effect - I am not sure it could carry the weight of the rotor
When will you try to put a high speed gas turbine ? 🤣
Very interesting by the way. Love your works 🙂
when I get a high speed gas turbine lol - cheers mate
Clever, that this bearing might be attached to a fancy windmill. A next step might be a way to figure out a four-way funnel to funnel some outside wind in to the little windmill? If that step works, a screen or something to keep the birds, wind blown grass clippings or whatever out of your setup? As for the bearing itself? ... I've heard that a pointy end of a nylon rod against glass has very little friction. So a whiskey shot glass might be useful to consider? Like the clip.
nice ifdeas mate - thanks for sharing
@@ThinkingandTinkering Thanks for your reply. Only became aware of your channel a little over a year ago. Your implications that wind power might be the way to go to supplement your electricity usages is a good one, I think. Solar cells oxidize over time and their efficiency is reduced because of that. And the buy in is expensive. The question of low power or low output voltages might be addressed with a voltage quadrupler or something similar.
If you substituted two magnets in opposition on the end for the ball point pen, you would have a totally magnetic suspended bearing
Great job. Now use ring magnets that fit inside another ring magnet for the bearing’s . You will be able to achieve 10,000+ rpm with stability as well as more rotor weight levitation.
they need to be radially magnetised don't they?
@@ThinkingandTinkering just regular ring magnets with the poles on the flat sides. The magnets will need to be positioned one within the other in opposition of poles. The force is quite focused within the center. The rod will pass through the hole in the smaller magnet and protrude a distance like a barbell for weights. The larger magnets two are glued into blocks or panels in the center. The end panel needs a block at the end for the rod to press against that matches the space at the end of the rod so the larger and smaller magnets align flush on flat sides. It will be hard to push through to the stop block but once it is you have high speed frictionless bearings. I used 1-1/2”x3/4” with a 3/4” hole for the outside ring and 5/8”x 1/4” with a 1/4” hole stacked three deep. I was able to see a 4 pound rotor up above 10,000 rpm and it was slightly out of balance. The magnets act as a shock absorbing bearings as well! The rod end riding on the stop can be pointed for reduced friction as well as the stop block being ceramic or other hard surfaces to reduce drag. Hope this helps!
A Tesla turbine built around that mag-float axle?
go for it
My mum thinks your easily pleased 😂😂😂
I am lol
How's this for a mad free energy device , place a circle of magnetic rope around the earth in a fixed orbit. Place large coils attached to carbon ropes and thread onto magnet. As the earth rotates coils revolve and generates power down carbon ropes to earth.
that is certainly an idea
In the last few months the Windspeed reach a high speed so you cant use windpower so the windturbine would Blow up
how does it work outside?
I don't know
How scalable is this?
no idea
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cheers mate
Now the hamster or pet mouse can generate their own light. Great!
lol
Could you use a joule thief to extract as much power from the output of that thing to pump power into a battery over time?
I would think so
I truly think he has been discouraged to keep at the graphene capacitor, shameful
no mate - not discouraged - just realistic
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cheers mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering ✌👌
rofl!!! i think i just pissed myself.
lol - awesome!!
💡 💭 centre punch ball point receiver plate, to alleviate the tip wandering? 2 cents over and out 😜
cheers mate
Lol! 😂
lol - nice one mate - cheers
👍🙏👍
awesome!
Mount this on a weathercock and you got random power anytime...
attach a mendocino solar motor
So, I have notebook for all my crazy ideas. One for a magnet system for a flywheel system. Now there are superconductor, and now there is super conductor tape on top of permeant magnets, and there is electric magnets all these can be complex..with the.suoerconductors be easier to manage the wobble due to the pinning effect. But..but...what if you could have a pinning effect with permeant magnets...ah..so what is the trick?? Let imagine a flywheel with a magnet attached to the bottom of float above a much bigger magnet which is repelling it..okay so nothing new here right? What if this much larger magnet had a small cylindrical whole in it right in the dead center of it? And what if one secured a small cylindrical magnet with the opposite polarity in that hole. What would happen? The floating magnet would be pinned and stabilized by small cylindrical magnet and the much larger magnet would float the flywheel. Viola! No superconductor...but yeah it would probably not be stable as a superconductor but I think it would be an improvement.
it would be - honestly the best thing here is to build it
Hello mate i have come across a man named gerard morin on u tube he has made some amazing claims and i would love to hear your opinion as a much better informed person than i. Personally i find hos theorys facsinating.
:)
lol
Where is the video where you invent mind reading? You seem to pick ideas from my head 😁 how about magnetic bearing in hydroturbine because of too much silt in water. 😉😁
lol - I just think we think the same way mate lol
one hell of a b*** job
lol
Perhaps you should set up an onlyfans page Rob if your going to be doing future blowing videos. Now a bit off topic but I remember a few videos back you were playing with generating and through some science or witchcraft, (same thing) you managed to decouple the generation from the load so it didn't put stress or resistance on the generator part. I think through capacitors. Is this possible on a bigger scale with larger power outputs? My thoughts turn to the many videos of people who built a Pedal powered generator converting a bike, sometimes when using the right kind of alternator, can produce an ok amount of power but switch on a load and it gets difficult to pedal, even if it goes through a battery between them.
I can't see why it wouldn't work on a larger scale mate - but theory way to tell is to build it
It’s stop-motion photography.
Fool me once...
lol - this one you is for real lol
All you have to do is the Maths. How much wind does your area experience on average? What would be the optimum coverage of 'windmills'? What would be the averaged output of these produce? How many people could survive in that 'energy regime'? What would it look like? Would it be livable? What would be the largest urban zone 'free' energy could support. What side-effects are produced by extracting so much energy?
I'm not knocking you or your work. But what is the end game? The real game is the portability of energy on tap (fuel).
BTW contra-rotating VAWT blades in a connected series with mag bearings (with a protective braking option) seems to be the optimum design; it may even be possible to do that in multi-depth 'banks' where the vortices power the second/third/+ rows. [ps: Climate Realist here, Science does not alter data and the principals, NASA, NOAA, IPCC, etc., do.]
I don't take it as knocking me mate - everyone has their opinion and you are welcome to express your own as far as I am concerned
not impressed