APPLE MAC MINI M4 PRO | MUSIC PRODUCER AVOID THESE UPGRADES!

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  • @markockwell
    @markockwell 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    There is a lot of difference between the base M4 and the Pro Version:- the base m4 as 10-core CPU with 4 performance cores and 6 efficiency cores and a 10-core GPU ...... The PRO Version as a 12 Core CPU, with 8 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores and a 16 Core GPU the ram bandwidth speed is 2.50 X that of the Standard Mini..... plus Thunderbolt 5 instead of 4 ( for a bit of future proofing ) also the SSD seems to be 2X the speed of the Base Model .

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Amazing information my friend!! I’ll pin your comment so it can help everyone else watching! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 I hope you’re having a great weekend!!

    • @markockwell
      @markockwell 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Itsjorgelanzas Your welcome buddy - weekend is good but my m4 pro Mini is not here yet - its delayed, probably over sold them - LOL

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😬😬😬 mine’s still processing 😬😬😬 I’m biting my nails hoping it’s not delayed 🤣🤣🤣

    • @markockwell
      @markockwell 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Itsjorgelanzas Fingers Crossed Mate

    • @tomsun3159
      @tomsun3159 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There seem to be more diffrences if you look at the teradown on apples page, different PCB, diffrent cooling solution (nearly double the fins and different material of cooler) probably alos different tears of storage (we will have to wait if someone make s a tear down of a Base and a Pro version with the same amount of storage. So a lot of differences probably, BUT are they relevant for the average user? My assumption NO. Even if i compare M1 to M4 lots of changes but the performance of the M1 is sufficient for most of us.

  • @ichigen511
    @ichigen511 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There is one piece of advice that has always and will forever be true when deciding on what "next" computer to buy (or your first). Buy the most powerful computer that you have the budget for. Period. #1, buy the most powerful processor you can afford, #2 buy the most RAM you can afford and #3 buy the most internal storage you can afford. Do these things in those order and you will simply be buying the best thing you can for the money you have. But you must first decide how much money you want to spend first and foremost. Don't look for a new computer without a budget.
    I agree with everything you said in this video. Liked and subscribed. Getting the most powerful M4 Pro is super wise. I might slightly disagree on RAM but that's only because more RAM is ALWAYS a good thing going forward. Storage is neither here nor there because the M4 Pro has "three" Thunderbolt 5 ports which is super "lightning" fast and external storage will not be an issue for this machine.
    Anyways, cheers brother!

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You said it! 🙌🏻🙌🏻 i love that idea of ALWAYS BUYING WITH A BUDGET IN MIND! 🙌🏻🙌🏻 wish I said it, that is the absolute key, because like you said more is more and more is better! But, at what cost? That’s the question. Thank you for your insightful comment my friend, I’m sure more people will find it interesting!
      Have a wonderful week! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @mad_circuits
    @mad_circuits 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I don't agree with you: U don't need to take a higher option regarding the processor. The M4 is waaaaay sufficient if you do music (only). The plugins etc. should not need more than 200 gig. So you can easily go with the base model and buy some fast (!) external thunderbolt SSDs and be HAPPY! 😂❤
    🤩

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for sharing your opinion friend. I really stand by what I say in this video. I do this for a living and this is the computer for me, if my budget was a bit bigger I would have gotten the extra ram, but I’m sure this will manage. Have a great week friend!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @signoc1964
    @signoc1964 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    From a music producer perspective, m1 pro is not only 2 cores more than the m1, thats missed the point. Many daws only use performance cores, and the base m1 has 4 performance cores, but the m1 pro version has 8 performance cores. So with the pro the daw has the double amount of cores it can use, that is 4 more cores.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree with you, in many ways, the M4 pro is twice the computer. 🙌🏻 I wanna say that some test say that the ssd is twice as fast too. Or is it going from 256 to 1tb that doubles the speed? Anyway, faster ssds. Thanks for your comment my friend! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @BirdseyeVu
    @BirdseyeVu 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Perhaps, keep your apps on internal hd and put your projects on external.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      That’s a great idea! 🙌🏻🙏🏼 thanks for your comment friend! I hope you’re having a great week!

  • @greycoven4479
    @greycoven4479 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    11:25 😆Took me a moment to realize what you were doing with the air drumming.
    Normally I don't watch videos on this part of music as I'm not quite there to make use of it, but you make it interesting enough to watch.
    I was just thinking to comment on your next video to let you know I'm still watching them all, been quiet because work has kept me very busy lately. Noticed on your shorts that your guitar playing is noticeably cleaner compared to when I first started to watch your channel.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣🤣 EXTREME LATENCY 🤣🤣 thank you for your nice comment as always my friend! I’m glad I’m slowly getting better at guitar playing! 🙏🏼🙏🏼thank you for your support!!! I appreciate you!

  • @WPFRSounds
    @WPFRSounds วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Got my Intel 2015 MacBook Pro ready to upgrade with you to a MacBook Pro M4pro to run Pro tool and such! Thanks for the great info and review.
    Kronk!

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s goooooo!! Thanks for staying until the end!! With that config I’m sure you’re SOLID!! 🔥🔥Happy music making my friend! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 ps. How much ram did you get?? lol

  • @danielrodrigues2463
    @danielrodrigues2463 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You still impress me with the quality of your videos! Have a great weekend my friend!

    • @danielrodrigues2463
      @danielrodrigues2463 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if your Apple ID is tied with the previous purchase of final cut, you're fine

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you my brother! 🙏🏼 I appreciate your kind comment and your support always! 🙌🏻🙌🏻 have a wonderful weekend my friend!

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you!!! That’s awesome to know!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @reganjo1955
    @reganjo1955 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think the review in general is good, but I would’ve emphasized the performance cores; that is going to make the biggest difference I think in plug-in performance and track counts. On the whole more is better on the other items as well within your budget.
    The upgrade for the m4 pro I think would be a good future investment and my understanding is the drives are upgradable with a bit of fiddling. I think you can save there. Over time, Plug-ins get hungrier and hungrier for processing and memory. If you can afford it, get the pro with 48gb (is 32 an option?)
    Meanwhile, I’m not immediately in the market. I’m waiting to make a decision based upon what the Mac studio M4 pro or max versions look like. My M1 MacBook Air meets my current needs although when I push it, it starts to crap out. But I don’t often do this because I’m mostly using external gear. But I could see pretty soon I’m gonna get back “in the box” so I will be buying something in the next nine months or so .

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for your insightful comment friend! And I think I would be doing the same if I was in your shoes! My M1 it’s holding up.

  • @sambidudek
    @sambidudek 29 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Look at the newest video of James Zhan regarding the utilisation of Efficiency and Performance Cores in the DAW of your choice. The M4 and M4Pro are a huge difference for music production.

  • @TimothyCoxMD
    @TimothyCoxMD 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    KRONK! Thanks for the video. I'm still debating between the base model with 24 GB/512 and paying a bit more to go with the pro base model.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s go!!! Thanks for watching till the end my friend! I think you may consider it strongly. There’s a few more advantages. For example the distribution of efficiency and performance cores. The speed of the ssd basically doubles. It really is very close to twice the performance in multi core tasks. It’s pretty crazy. Of course I encourage you to do more research so you don’t overspend, but I keep seeing all these things from all the tech TH-camrs.

  • @jorvten360
    @jorvten360 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great recommendation my friend, I would bump the ram. Even you don’t need it for huge libraries, but you’ll be future proof for any NEW OSX version which increases need of memory with every new version, and more important, AI processing will also use the unified memory architecture of the m4 chips, so I would go defo for the 48 ram version, just to be safe :)

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree with you!! Next computer I get, I’ll probably have to go higher in that ram. I wanna see what pro tools AI is like and how demanding they really are in a real world scenario! I was seriously debating upgrading the ram, but it’s just not in my budget right now. I’ll have to make it work right now! 🙏🏼🙏🏼 in super curious my friend!, what are you running in your studio right now?

    • @jorvten360
      @jorvten360 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Itsjorgelanzas I have the Mac mini m2 pro 1tb ssd 16 gb. And I should have gone for the 32 gb version. I was in the same boat, do,I need it ? Should I? But I understand when cash is tight, and you have to cut corners just for a solid working machine, it will work fine though, if Apple won’t overload their upcoming OSX versions.
      I’m thinking of getting the m4 pro mini with 48 gb ram.
      I have a feeling that those m4 chips will need more ram in general for their AI backgrounds task, since Apple implementing heavily more AI within their future OS X versions it will require and take up more recourses,,I don’t trust apple, they are kinda shady in that regard. So my general rule of thumb,is do double the Ram for audio and video production of the listed entry model of your choice.
      24 gb listed- go for 48 gb.
      Since I have a relative fast m2 machine I can wait a little and grab one o; a special offer from another retailer beginning next year. Have a great weekend buddy :)

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Man,, thank you for all your thoughts. Maybe i should have gotten the ram upgrade. 😅😅 thank you for your comment my friend. Enjoy your weekend! 🙏🏼

  • @tomsun3159
    @tomsun3159 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    KRONK a usefull computer for professional use was at any time around 2000-3000 €, i rememeber the time maxing out old PCs for my father from 1 MB of Ram to 4 MB of RAM to 8 MB of RAM on the old 286 Computerfrom standard VGA 640/16 to VGA 1024/32768 from MFM to RLL to a complete SCSI system. Its astonishinghow perfomant these small beasts are nowadays. I would probably spend the extra money of memory upgrade . But for sure future proofing is not necessary nowadays, if you ran into issues in 2 years buy an M6 fitting your needs THEN.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yay!! Thank you for watching till the end!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 and, That is exactly what I’m seeing. Why get into the system so deep? Just so that in the next 2 years there’s 400% more performance and you want to buy another one. It’s all about balancing your needs, with your earnings and the amount of coins need to make sense. But I guess people buy computers for fun too 😅 so it’s ok to drop a couple thousand dollars just because 192gb of ram looks and sounds awesome. I rather get another tax return for my business in 2-4 years. Tech is moving way too fast to be getting into technology for crazy amounts of money. Anyway, I enjoyed reading your comment friend! Thank you and I hope you have a wonderful day!

  • @hilbertshotel
    @hilbertshotel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video! I probably need more RAM because I do compose some orchestral stuff and would use VSTs almost exclusively. Also, maybe 1TB isn’t enough. Superior Drummer 3, for example, takes up something like 200+ GB. Like you said, though, external drives are pretty cheap compared to Apple’s upgrades, and that’s the way to go.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree with you on all counts!! I originally wanted to get 2TB, but not for $800 🤣 I rather get 4 for $400!! I’m curious, What computer are you running now??

    • @hilbertshotel
      @hilbertshotel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Totally agree. My computer is really old, an ASUS desktop from, like, 15 years ago, lol. It’s so old it won’t upgrade to Windows 11, which is why I’m (finally) in the market for a new computer, and I thought that change would also allow me to start building a home studio. I’ve been watching a lot of videos on Macs vs. PCs for audio engineering, and everyone comes out on the Mac side-even Windows power users for 20+ years. These Mac minis are really exciting, which is a pleasant surprise because no one recommended the M3 chips over the M2/M2 Pro when they were released (according to bench tests). Btw, thanks for all your hard work! Love the channel, and I wish you all the success in the future.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much for your nice comment friend! I appreciate your support so much!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @iamwindr
    @iamwindr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You legend!! Thanks for the awesome and detailed video. #straighttothepoint 👊

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LFG!!! Thank you for your nice comment my friend!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 I appreciate your support! 🔥🔥

  • @RomeoG39
    @RomeoG39 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Kronk!

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Let’s goooooo!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 thank you for watching till the end my friend!! 🤘🏻🤓

  • @Roberto_Narvaez
    @Roberto_Narvaez 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for the video! but external storage is not needed any more for Mac minis, the internal SSD is replaceable. Have a look at the teardowns in some channels.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you for your nice comment my friend!!! I hope the prices are accessible! Have you heard of a third party that makes the drives yet? Are they as expensive as external? Or even more? The ones for the Mac Pro are INSANELY EXPENSIVE, like $1,600 for 4tb

    • @Roberto_Narvaez
      @Roberto_Narvaez 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don’t think there are third party drives yet, but I guess there will be soon. This is one of the videos where they found out that: th-cam.com/video/PIUj8-ig-xU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=d8cQ9JD40adV-RWG

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you for sharing friend! Yeah, I’ve seen a handful of videos doing the teardown. Max and Vaddim say one of their friends is doing the drives and will drop soon hopefully. That’s so cool!

    • @musiccreation1198
      @musiccreation1198 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I had no idea this was possible. Ty. I suspect OWC aka Macsales will have info on this.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, I’m sure third parties have to catch up!! Very nice indeed!!!!!

  • @jessegoplen
    @jessegoplen 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I record my own vocals and acoustic guitar using a large diaphragm condenser, but I use a lot of tracks and plugins so I'd like to go with the Pro Mini M4, and my biggest fear is fan noise while tracking. How loud does yours get during a session? Great video btw, KRONK!

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think at some point, all these computers get hot, so the fans are gonna kick in. So far, with my old Mac mini I haven’t had that issue. Sometimes, I record vocals into a full mix with tons of plugins and stuff and don’t have an issue with the noise. You just have to be strategic with mic placement and aligning the mics rejection pattern with whatever your noise source may be. But overall, with the computer under my desk, the old Mac mini is a non issue, I’ll report back about noise on the M4 pro. Thanks for your nice comment my friend and thank you for watching till the end!! 🙌🏻🙏🏼 I appreciate you!!

    • @jessegoplen
      @jessegoplen 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Itsjorgelanzas Thanks for the reply, that sounds promising. I have an Intel MacBook Pro right now and the noise and heat are horrible, honestly. Appreciate you very much, looking forward to more videos from you putting the new Mini through the paces.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My friend. The good news is that from the Intel computers to the M chips the reduction of the fan noise is EXTREME! You will be happy no matter what M computer you get

    • @jessegoplen
      @jessegoplen 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Itsjorgelanzas That sounds glorious, you've been so helpful. I'm so grateful for you and your channel!

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you for your kind comment my friend! I appreciate your support! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @n3r0n3
    @n3r0n3 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    u don't need too much RAM... because u have SSD? If that is your point then u may need a secondary ssd for memory caching. Anyway it depends: if you use many sample libraries you need as much ram as you can. If you use plugins that are processor intensive - especially modelling ones like UAD's native... modelled amplifiers etc - a fast processor allows you to run more of them. But I would argue RAM is the most important factor in music production today... RAM and music theory, that's what is normally missing.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I’m just basing what I’m saying in watching my activity monitor and seeing that I always have a HUGE OVERHEAD OF RAM, but I don’t have a HUGE OVERHEAD OF MONEY 🤣🤣🤣 so I don’t like to see $1,200 worth of ram sitting idle. When I see that activity monitor tells me I’m running out, I’ll say I have to spend that money, for now, I keep it in my pocket instead of giving it to Apple. Have you checked your activity monitor while doing some of your ultra demanding sessions? I’m curious to see how much ram your sessions need. I’ve only seen my scoring friends using crazy amounts of ram. Plus, freeze, commit,, idk $1000 worth of ram?

    • @thisisyourkarma
      @thisisyourkarma 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ram on m4 will be slower when m5 comes out. Why don't we get slower today?

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Now that, that is using 100% of human capabilities🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 I can’t find anything wrong with this theory!

  • @M_E_T_R_O__9
    @M_E_T_R_O__9 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    i had to check if id hit the 2x button.... slow down mate lol

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry friend lol

  • @chickenlickin3820
    @chickenlickin3820 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    KRONK!

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s goooooo! Thank you for watching until the end!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @Tonneback
    @Tonneback 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kronk

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s goooo!! Thank you for watching till the end my friend!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @NavjotSinghpatiala
    @NavjotSinghpatiala 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    kronk

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s gooo!!! Thanks for watching till the end my friend!!! I appreciate you!!

  • @Matt_Morgan
    @Matt_Morgan วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    KRONK

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let’s gooooo!! Thank you for watching till the end my friend!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @musiccreation1198
    @musiccreation1198 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DaVinci Resolve is great and FREE ! Final Cut = nope.

  • @Jarrettfan
    @Jarrettfan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You should use 85% less word.

  • @MusikalHuman
    @MusikalHuman 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you have holes in your ears? What happened? Are you OK?

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I do, I’m ok though! Are you?? 😊

  • @nlm.dks8873
    @nlm.dks8873 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    M4 SSD replaceable. so there's that.

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just can’t wait to see how prohibiting the prices are, because if it’s anything like the ssd replacement for the Mac Pro, 2grand for a couple tb., yeah…. I’m still getting external. So there’s that too. Let’s see if the drop 4Tb for $500, fingers crossed! 🤞🏻

    • @nlm.dks8873
      @nlm.dks8873 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Itsjorgelanzas what? off the shelf SSD parts-store>buy chip>solder>run DFU> done.

  • @johngudgeon7454
    @johngudgeon7454 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you talk too fast...way, way too fast...

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I know, Set it up in half speed or quarter speed if you feel the need to! Use the tools at your disposal in your advantage! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

    • @WilliamBarker
      @WilliamBarker 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      LOL. I usually watch these vids at x2, I had to drop you down to 1:25. Blazing

    • @Itsjorgelanzas
      @Itsjorgelanzas  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I know 🤣 I’m usually a fast talker, but when I’m excited and rushing to fit making a video in the middle of my already overcrowded day, I feel like I need to rush 🙌🏻🤣🤣 and this is the result. I’m thankful for the technology that allows you to understand me lol