Transmission fluid drain and fill on 2017+ Chrysler Pacifica ZF 948TE 9 speed
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- Follow along as I drain and fill the trans fluid on a 2017 Chrysler PACIFICA. Transmission fluid change with AMSoil fuel efficient synthetic ATF.
This procedure can be used on any ZF 948TE transmission (automatic gearbox) 9 speed
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Awesome video! I was planning on doing this service on our Pacifica this weekend and watching your step by step was so very helpful in preparing me for the job. I went with Mopar fluid which you can get at a fairly reasonable price online if you shop around. I really like your method of measuring how much comes out and replacing with the same. Easier than messing around with the dipstick thing 🙂Thanks again!!!
Glad it was helpful! Great job getting this maintenance done.
@@TheLawnEngineer I drained out and replaced 3 quarts plus 21 ounces, so just a bit over 3 and a half quarts. This is my first time on this vehicle, 34,000 miles. I think I’ll do this every 35,000 miles or so. Very worthwhile to freshen up the fluid and give the transmission the best chance for a long life. I pulled the air box instead of the battery, and access was good. Thanks again for your video!!
Well done, I have the '18 Pacifica Gas also and just did the same thing 6 months ago. Instead of filling through the top take the driver wheel off do everything from there down low instead you never even have to raise the hood start to finish. Yes 3-1/2 quarts is full but Leave belly pan permanently off, helps cool engine and so you can see any trans leaks. If you have leaks it might take more that 3-1/2.. Go online for dipstick measurement tool for proper length..
The 948TE is a 10-11 quart system, 1 drain and fill wont get it all out. Do 6 drain and fills driving 10 miles between each one and that leaves you with 90% new fluid. The oil filter is internal and cannot be changed unless you split the case so forget about that. I only use the Mopar Green for this particular 8-9 speed only as thats all you should specifically use but your choice...👍.
Great information, thanks for sharing.
Not just a car jack, always support it additionally. So many people have deid because they didn't pay attention to this! 2 people in my area alone. Otherwise, markings are a good idea for determining the old and new amounts of fluid. I always like to use the scales for this (my wife isn't so keen on this because it's our kitchen scales...). You can then fill the car directly from the clean oil canister and only have to weigh the canister a few times in between. If you do this with a scale, note that liters are not the same as weight in kg (not like water!) because the transmission oil is much lighter (requires special ATF6, which weighs around 0.83 to 0.86 kg/liter depending on the type). So i always control Level before change, than i weigh the old oil and then the new one, similar to the method here with the markings.
In addition, to hold enough oil pressure, it is technically better if the filter is changed at the same time (at least every other change / or with the ZF every 100 to 120tm is enough - with moderate use without a trailer). Unfortunately, this is a bit of work with this ZF gearbox, but it is necessary. The oil level should always be checked afterwards.
otherwise good video, thanks, regards from Germany, Raphael
Great points, thanks for sharing. One comment, the filter is behind the torque converter and. Ot accessible unless the transmission is split from the engine.
Thank you for the video. My husband is unable to physically assist me with these type of issues. Your directions were very descript and precise. I followed each step and was successful in completing my project. Thank you (repeated a zillion times).
Awesome, I’m glad that I could help you out 👍. Great job on getting the maintenance done, too many people are afraid of trying things out of their comfort zone.
Our 2020 Pacifica just hit 40k and if not for your video I would have never got the nerve to do it. Followed instructions to a T and never spilled a drop. It was easier for me to leave battery in but I took air box out. I bout a case of molar fluid on eBay for 95$ or so. Thanks again!!!
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. I didn’t take the battery out the last time I did this; I agree, not required.
I have done the same work you did transmission fluid change just today. I use a 2020 chrysler voyager for a full-time uber job, and the vehicle is wearing a lot. I want to thank you for the video tutorials that let me know what I can do and save a lot of maintenance costs. My next assignment is Oil Filter/Cooler Housing Replacement and hopefully I will be successful. Thanks again!
Great job putting the work in to keep your Pacifica and your business running smoothly. Thanks for taking the time to check in, good luck on the oil filter housing.
You can make a dipstick from a large zip tie. There are TH-cam videos that show how to do this. Just be careful not to drop it into the trans. I used to measure the old fluid drained out at the Honda dealer and just put the same amount back in. Also when I worked at the Chrysler dealer, I replaced a 9 speed just about every week when they first came out. After the first 10 or so I realized that every one had to have 1 quart drained from the new trans to get it to the correct level. After that, that’s all I did was drain 1 quart from each one and called it good. Flat rate means you’re always looking for ways to do the job faster without sacrificing quality. With the 9 speeds, a little bit over or under filled won’t hurt it.
Great info from a tech. Thanks for checking in and sharing your experience with everyone!
Thank you man , I have Chrysler Pacifica and I don’t knew change hydraulic oil , thank you very much ❤
I'm glad I could help, thanks for checking in.
Very helpfull. I have a 4 cyl with this transmission, and needed this info!!
I'm glad you found some value in this video, thanks for checking in.
I’ve been looking into changing the fluid in my ‘21 Cherokee mostly because I’m nearing 32k miles. From what I see the ZF 8&9 speed fluid is almost as thick as far when it’s cold! Very helpful video, thanks! 😁
You’re welcome, good luck with the fluid change 👍. You are one of the few people thinking about your transmission fluid.
@@TheLawnEngineer it’s sad that people don’t think about the entirety of their vehicle. More exists than just the engine. I’m changing the PTU fluid as well, because there is no such thing as a “lifetime” fluid in my eyes.
@@jeremystout412 well said.
i’m planning to change trans fluid for almost 60k but not sure which mechanic shop to service my 2021 pacifica
Amsoil is the way to go. My cherokee transmission is the same and im very happy with the fluid change.
I agree, not cheap but very high quality.
I noticed immediately that the shift hesitation when stopping and starting was eliminated when I changed the fluid. I still struggle with the occasional hard shift between 3 and 4 but other than that, I'd 1000% recommend the change. Great video too. 👍
The trans fluid comes out clean because you drain and fill so often. That transmission will last longer than the engine will :) I love the ease of serviceability of the ZF transmission.
Agreed, thanks for checking in.
@@TheLawnEngineerany updates on how the shifting has been? My 4 to 5th is pretty rough when I lift off the gas mid shift
Thank you so much!!! I’ve been looking for someone to do this video!!
You are welcome 👍
Thanks for the video! I have a Ram Promaster City with the ZF transmission and I also don't feel comfortable with the sealed for life deal.....sealed for a short life maybe. Anyways it gives me enough to do the same job on ours so thanks very much!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.
Sealed for a short life, I like that!
Great Video and good common sense .Thanks for making . Please put something under your car like jack stand, wheel and tire or anything .Car is pretty darn heavy to be resting on you if the unexpected happens and it does happen .
Thanks, will do! I'm better about highlighting jack stands in my new videos, thanks for the concern.
I have a 2017 Pacifica that had the harsh abrupt shift quality. It only happened occasionally but it still concerned me. I took to the dealership where i purchased it and sure enough they had to perform a software update, reprogrammed the TCM and performed a quick learn procedure to adjust clutch filling pressures. It completely eliminated the harsh trans shifting.
I took ours in once for a software update. It did improve this but still an occasional clunky shift. I'll have to make some time for the dealer to try again.
I've been resetting the trans computer occasionally and that does help. I have another video on how to do that.
@@TheLawnEngineer Did you have any issues after reconnecting the battery? Because with these newer vehicles you can run in to all types of problems with a battery change.
@@keithginyard7696 no issues after reconnecting battery.
How much Is the cost for this service?
I purchased my Pacifica certified used so the updates didn't cost me anything. As to how much it could cost i couldn't tell you. But you can check with a Chrysler dealership or a transmission shop for software update prices but the dealership is always going to be more.
Thanks for your video.
You're welcome.
Thanks for sharing! This gave me the confidence to change mine on my 2018 with 57k miles. I drained closer to a quarter shy of 4 quarts. Maybe it was to hot? I made the mark with the old fluid while it was still hot. Its running great though and per Chrysler service instructions the new oil was showing right at the top of the fill hole just below the plug threads. Following your next video to replace my oil cooler since that's leaking coolant. Thanks again.
Glad it helped! There are several variables on why you drained more (how level the vehicle is, temperature, how recently it was driven). Anyway, it sounds like you are right on with your level of.
Awesome flick and wall mart has jug in auto section that holds 6 quarts and it's only 16$$ get one I love mine and I use it Alot 😊
Yeah a marked jug would be better than my clear storage tote 🙃
2nd change for fluids wow wtf i have 120k miles on wifes and I think it's time.. I agree they say never change the fluid what world are they living in we have always changed fluids on cars. I think they just want something to break so buy another car. dude you are a lifesaver thanks for taking the time to give a shit about the things that you own and telling the world how to get things done.
Thanks for checking in and you’re welcome. I’m glad to hear you find value in my videos 👍.
The world is full of people trying to separate you from your money… The best advice I ever received. Hopefully I can help a few people keep some of their money.
When they say "Lifetime fluid" it's the life of the transmission. So they assign a life expectancy to the transmission and the fluid will get it to that point. We, the consumer, obviously don't agree with the industries cavalier attitude towards longevity of something we paid a lot of money for. I'm at 84k and this is on my list.
@@cwilks5592 well said.
@@cwilks5592 ZF would remove the fill and drain plugs because of you guys.
@@cleanmazda2345 if they can get it in we can get it out. There is always a fill port to suck from.
Unfortunately it didn't make much of a difference on the shifts. I should have a video up shortly on something you can try to improve the hard shifts.
Thank you
You're welcome!
last for life time , nothing last forever
You’ve got it!
Hey, double checked. Yes you can use the MOPAR or Amsoil Signature Series Fuel Efficient Synthetic ATF Transmission fluid. MOPAR is about $30. Amsoil is cheaper. We are getting ripped off anyhow, why pay more? I remember when these oils were a few dollars a quart. Enjoy.
Thanks for the backup =)
Hey!
Do you notice any improvement with the amsoil trans? I’ve hated the hard shifts and clunks on this trans. Debating to leave it alone or did what you did…. Thanks
Catching up on old comments I never directly responded to. How is your Pacifica doing?
Thanks for the video. I'm concerned about the notion that you can simply replace only the amount of transmission fluid that you drained and believe it is at the correct level. It might very well not be. Isn't there a specific procedure required to check for the proper fluid level in the transmission that must be followed for these ZF transmissions? Also, does the Pacifica have a transmission cooler, perhaps near the radiator, that holds a certain amount of fluid? If so, is there a bypass valve that prevents the transmission fluid from cycling through the cooler until it has reached a certain temperature? My understanding is the transmission fluid must be checked when its temperature is within a certain range, and after it has been driven enough for it to be cycled through the cooler, if there is one. Apologies if it turns out I am full of dog doo about this.
You are correct, there is a "tool" that is basically a dip still with several level lines on it. There is a table and procedure that is used to know what level line to use based on the fluid temperature to account for thermal expansion of the fluid.
The procedure I used is valid if the level before drain is correct (factory fill was perfect and nothing has leaked). I believe I made a point of looking for leaks. I'm confident that I can use this procedure 5-10 times and be within a couple millimeters of the factory fill.
One question. When putting the capture/acorn back on the linkage, just snug or more to tighten? Is there a certain amount of play so that the linkage can rotate easily? I have the same trans in a 2015 Chrysler 200S.
You can fully tighten the nut. There is a stop on the shaft you are tightening on, so things will not bind.
Given that this was the second time you changed, the fluid was the first time 3.5 quarts roughly?? great video. Great channel! Thanks for posting. We have a 2020 Pacifica
Yes it was roughly 3.5 both times. I’m glad you are liking the channel! Thanks for the nice comment.
Do I need to unscrew the lever connecting the MPR cable to access the fill plug? The fill plug seems to be blocked by the MPR cable without some sort of disassembly.
Yes you do, take off the nut and the cable pops off.
Excellent thank you for your video... About to do my first at 50k miles and coolant flush. Can you please share link of corrugated tube and funnel you used to add trannie from. ...
Thank you. Here is the funnel, but it looks like they have changed the end slightly (smaller). It should still work though.
www.fleetfarm.com/detail/funnel-king-1-qt-galvanized-funnel-w-14-in-flexible-spout/0000000303692?Ntt=Funnel
My Pacifica is 2019 with 354000 miles, I never did that because I want to desler they told me is Life time, but when I will have time I will do it. Thanks.
Wow, that’s a lot of miles, good to know that they can last that long.
@@TheLawnEngineer I think running high mileage in short time is good for cars.
@@cleanmazda2345 you are probably correct. Years seem harder on cars than actual miles.
@@TheLawnEngineer By the way, you made an excellent video. Thank you very much Swar to God, I've no transmission issue on my Pacifica 2018 Limited. All family members love it! But good to know how to reset the computer.
Hi, I want to change the oil in the gearbox and I have a question, do you know what torque force should be tightened the drain plug and the oil filler plug? Your videos are very helpful👍
Unfortunately I don’t have those torque figures.
Does this transmission have 2 fill holes? I’ve watch a couple of videos that there’s another one at the back of the trans. Can you fill on either fill holes?
The one on the back side is the official fill hole because that is where you can check the level with the special tool.
I use the one in the video because it’s more accessible.
Nice video, congratulations!!! Have a question, does that fluid really improve mpg?
Thank you. I have not noticed a change in mpg. I think the mpg results are very dependent on transmission type and original fluid. The original fluid in the ZF 9 speed is already a low viscosity full synthetic, so it's hard to improve on it.
Hey, no problem following the automatic gearbox oil change ? Thank you.
Not at all, unfortunately it doesn't do anything noticeable to make the trans smoother but I'm confident that it will help the trans live longer.
I have another video on resetting the adaptive parameter in the trans control module, this has made a big difference in eliminating the clunky shifts. I think the trans programming has some bad feedback loops in the adaptive part, resetting this helps.
Awesome video. I've wanted to change mine but was hesitant because of the special way of checking full. Gotta say though, I held my breath while you were under there without jack stands.
One question, I'm guessing there isn't a problem with having a mixture of the Amsoil and OEM.
I also just went out and did the adaptive shift reset.
Thanks for checking in 👍. I have had no issues with mixing the fluids, and the AMSOIL fluid lists the Mopar specification. In my opinion, that makes mixing ok.
I don’t like to tell others what they should do; give my perspective and let everyone make their own choice.
Hi!
Did the adaptiv shift reset helped the car?
Well done! Did the drain and fill plug locations you used have washers on them? Also, what torque did you use for each plug?
The drain plug has a washer but not the fill plug. Unfortunately, I don’t remember the torque specs.
Fellow Mech E here! I’m looking to get a minivan for the fam and thought you’d be a good one to ask if you’d get the Pacifica again. I’m looking at the PHeV version though but it shares enough of the same parts.
Overall I really like the van, but the programming of the transmission really tempered the experience.
The PHeV has a completely different transmission so it is likely smoother. However, I have heard the failure rate of transmissions is much higher. It's a CVT with an electric motor incorporated, they may have the bugs worked out by now, but the early ones were not great.
As you may have seen, I have switched over to two Teslas and couldn't be happier. The drivetrain is so simple, after 25k and 12k miles I haven't noticed a single hiccup or stutter from the drivetrain. I know this doesn't help with a minivan, but I have to share whenever I"m even tangentially asked.
Hello, I have a CHR2017 touring a hard shifting from time to time could be a sign for a fluid change?
Unfortunately, the hard shifting is very common but it's not the fluid. I discuss in this video: th-cam.com/video/REgRcfIc6Z0/w-d-xo.html
Hey my transmission housing cracked, because in Chrysler's infinite wisdom they made the pan out of plastic. I guess something hit it and cracked it...some of my fluid leaked out that way...Would you recommend using a vaccum pump to drain the remainder and add the specified stock amount or just use your method to drain the rest and maybe you can tell me how much you actually put back so I can approximately get it right and then drive to the dealer to actually check the actual level...
Oh man, that stinks. Unfortunately, I didn't measure exactly how much but it was roughly 3.3 quarts.
I don't think a vacuum pump will work well on this transmission because there isn't a good place to snake the vacuum line down into the sump.
How far away is the dealer? If its only a couple blocks, you could drain the transmission completely and add 3.3 quarts...if it's further than that I would probably get a flat bed and have it towed.
Hi i have 114k miles on mine.. went to dealer they say they dont change fluid cause its a "lifetime"...I was thinking a change should happen but if it that high miles what are your thoughts?.. I did have a time when it was kinda extra clunky and seemed like does not shift in gears as easy.
A drain and fill like this is fairly low risk, so it would be a good idea. I would stay away from a flush or replacing all of the fluid at one time.
For the shifts, try this reset
th-cam.com/video/k5lQmHBBvQA/w-d-xo.html
Great
Thank you
You don’t have to change the zf9 fluid that often. 100k is what I do on mine. Just dropped mine the other day and it was a little dirty but not black. Smelled great. I have 245k on my 2015 200 3.6.
Good to learn from your experience, thanks for taking the time to share.
Do you know the length of the funnel you used? Amazon has a 14.6 and a 24.8inch ? thanks.
It was around the 14.6 but longer won’t hurt.
Question, do you think you can suck the transmission oil out through the fill?
Definitely not through the port I used, there are components in the way of getting a suction tube down.
It might be possible through the fill hole that is accessible from the drivers side wheel well.
Do we also need to change the filter too??
Ideally yes; unfortunately, the access for the filter is behind the torque converter. This means that you have to take the engine off the transmission to get at the filter...genius.
I read on a blog that a guy changed his oil @100k miles and his fluid was clear as well. It would make sense to swap the filter if it's possible on this Trans.
Unfortunately the filter is not accessible. The oil does stay clear, the clutch’s in this transmission don’t seem to shed much friction material (what usually changes the color of the fluid). The fluid is still subject to viscosity breakdown even if it is clear.
Never rely on hydraulic jacks when your body is under a vehicle. Always use Jack stands to hold up a vehicle. Never use a jack alone to hold up a vehicle
Yes
and for the jack i use a Hockey rubber puck to protect the car body from damage 😊
How many quarts did you add after you did your change? Did you drain out about 3.5 quarts ?
Yes 3.5.
This German Trans fit en the models of Dodge Grand Caravan and town and Country 2011-2018???
No, the grand caravan and town and country use a 6 speed 62TE transmission.
You are 👍
Thank you
So at 100k miles if it's still original fluid probably just leave it?
Yes I would say to leave it. You would probably be ok with this drain and fill method but I would absolutely stay away from a flush and all new fluid.
I have a 2017 Chrysler Pacifica and are having difficulty gasing it up.. I can gas up for a couple of seconds then it shuts off. Any advice or insight on what the issue is to cause this ? Thank you
I haven’t run into that problem, but it sounds like an issue with the fill tube/ vent.
Same van, same issue. I have found that it only happens at some stations but not others. We avoid the stations where this occurs. This is only a guess, maybe the filler neck/tube is too restrictive due to either diameter or shape.
Does the battery disconnect screw with the uconnect radio??
It does not. In fact, if you have having issues with your uconnect freezing or not turning on disconnecting the battery will help with that.
i wonder if we can add a little bit of additive in ATF??
I wouldn’t with this style of transmission. They are very particular about the viscosity of the fluid.
Was it low on fluid in the first place?
No, it wasn't low. This procedure requires the level to be proper before starting the fluid change. If you suspect the level is not right before or if the transmission leaks you should not use this procedure.
Did you have an accessory 12 V battery plugged into one of your lighter sockets somewhere in the car to keep the computer hot while you removed your battery I know the one in the back by the liftgate is always hot regardless of key position
No, I did not provide any electrical power to the computer. I’ve left the battery disconnected quite a few times during maintenance and never had any issues.
@@TheLawnEngineer Good to know, thanks!
Very thorough explanation for this job. I would like to ask, and if you could be so kind and answer it would be helpful as well. Is this the ZF 9HP48 tranny? And if so, is that LEVER over the fill hole, the electronic Park release lever, or the general gear shift lever? From what I see, on this tranny the shift cable attaches to that LEVER. So I am thinking, are there two or three types of these trannys? Bcuz I was looking at another video where the ZF 9HP48 is outside the vehicle and the parts and functions are described. However, that particular LEVER was facing the opposite direction and had No linkage attached to it, and it was said to be the Electronic Park Lever. I'm somewhat perplexed. I understand this type tranny is used in various vehicles, like the Odyssey and Sienna but, aren't they supposed to be or look the same? Can you elaborate? Thx.
Thank you and great question. Yes it is the ZF 9HP48 transmission. I believe it is the park release lever. The shifting is done with electrical signal instead of cables.
@@TheLawnEngineer Wow, that's so scary, living in a digital world, wanting to depend on good ol analog functions! However, your lever had a cable snap-on-ball type connection, correct? But I think I was previously looking at a Honda tranny, I'm wondering why the odd configuration. Thanks.
@@MusicMinisterJP7 yes sir
@@TheLawnEngineer I am currently in the market for a 2019 Pacifica limited. Been with my trusty 2005 Town and country 3.3l, for which I've serviced so many things. 6 mo ago, I had a pretty penny rebuilt A604 tranny put in. And it only had 152k.. now 162k.. but its old, had rust, although it runs well, I'm tired of old vans. Going with the Pacifica rather than the Sienna.
@@MusicMinisterJP7 new things are nice. As long as you go into it understanding the transmission reset, I think you will be happy with the Pacifica.
This guy is sponsored by AMSOIL, A schill.
I wish I was
Even if he were, Amsoil is PROVEN to be far better fluid AND it’s cheaper than the OEM stuff. Find happiness dood. Life ain’t that bad.
You can fill from there but that’s not where you measure it from correct?
That is correct. Level is checked from another point that is accessible through the wheel well.
DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO OF RESETTING TRANMISSION
Yes, the procedure is at the end of this video
Chrysler Pacifica-Jeep Cherokee 948TE ZF 9 speed Transmission Reset: Fix those harsh shifts
th-cam.com/video/REgRcfIc6Z0/w-d-xo.html
What does the owners manual say is the service interval for your transmission ?
There is no service interval listed for the transmission. It does specify the fluid type but nothing in the tables about service.
I don’t bother asking the dealer but Other have been told it’s lifetime fluid or 100k.
how often do you recommend changing the transmission fluid?
That is a very difficult and contentious subject (probably why you are asking 🤓)
I recommend before 60,000 miles and the every 20k to 30k. Obviously this is my opinion, you should get multiple and decide what you want to do.
If you wait too long, many abrasives have already built up in the fluid and is wearing out the clutches. The dirty fluid wears the clutches but provides additional friction and prevents the clutches from slipping.
If you wait too long the clutches are worn out and clean fluid will actually cause the transmission to start slipping.
@@TheLawnEngineer awesome thanks a lot for your input! Also thanks for all of the information it’s really helpful!
@@robcastillo4937 you’re welcome!
I sure as shit hope you put your van up on a jack stand, and you aren't working under it with just the jack holding it up. Also, perhaps a set of ramps would make this easier and safer next time.
Thanks for the feedback, I’m glad you want to keep me safe. 👍
I have 128,000 miles on mine and I haven't done anything to the transmission yet. Should I got ahead and change the fluid out or just leave it alone???
I would definitely stay away from a flush.
You should be fine with a drain and fill and it would get some fresh fluid in with the proper viscosity.
How has your transmission shifted over the 128k?
@@TheLawnEngineer not bad I tried that reset you posted a while back and it seems to be doing fine.
@@johnbeasley7654 that’s good to hear, thanks for answering 👍
@@TheLawnEngineer have u had any issues with misfiring cylinders?
@@johnbeasley7654 I have not but I’ve heard from others that is usually a bad ignition coil. I’ll plan on a video of how to troubleshoot.
Why didnot you use the hose on the back the one that have like yellow cap
I don't like to mess with the hoses because they tend to break. On a newer vehicle its less likely but I had had some bad experiences.
i have put 5 and half,,,is it okay?please let me know🙏
Did you measure what came out? If you didn't, I would suggest you buy the tool and measure the level or take it to a shop and get the level checked.
And it has marks on the jug and also liters " get u one"!!!!
It’s on my list 👍
I am curious if it's possible to suck up the fluid with a pump through the top hole? Don't want to bother with bottom shield disassembly...
Unfortunately, it’s not possible. The path down from the top is almost immediately blocked.
TY. I was hoping this hole allows to measure fluid level at least.
Hi. Thank you. Nice Video. But what’s about the Filter? Don’t need to change?
(Sorry for my bad English. I’m from Germany 🙈)
You’re welcome. Unfortunately the filter is behind the torque converter and is not accessible.
Don’t worry about your English, it’s much better than my Deutsch
@@TheLawnEngineer Thank you for your prompt reply. Then the filter is not replaceable? Or only with great effort? i am going to learn english 😊
@@christianschmidt9264 it is replaceable but you have to separate the engine and transmission so it’s not practical. Maybe you can provide feedback to the engineers at ZF AG.
@@TheLawnEngineer This is really very stupid. But a filter change is absolutely necessary or not?
@@christianschmidt9264 It is not absolutely necessary. I've inspected the drained fluid and there are no signs of any particulates. They are either not being generated or the filter is still doing its job.
I am going to drill a hole and put in a rubber grommet, or I'll rivet on a small plastic cover and rivet it on. I'd rather take out a few rivets than fight broken clips and such on those belly pans! If anyone already drilled theirs, can you measure it and tell us the exact spot to drill?!! That'll save taking it off to find out, and hopefully never take it off.
Great idea, I should have measured when I took it off last time. I'm definitely going to put in an access hole the next time, biggest barrier to performing this service.
Don't put your jack directly on the pinch weld, use a puck that is designed to saddle the pinch weld so it can be jacked properly.
Thanks for the tip, I'm use to body on frame vehicles.
This is how every shop in the country lifts a car🙃
That has been my concern, not ending up with the same amount of fluid in it, especially with sealed transmissions. I was told to leave it alone past a certain high mileage, that it could actually damage the seals and its internal pressure? Not sure if that's true.. What change interval did you follow, every 30K miles? Ours has only 35K miles, but I do feel the subtle clunky shifts at low speeds.. I'll first try reprogramming the TCM as you recommended. P/S, you would like this video:
th-cam.com/video/y-7nTMshZ40/w-d-xo.html
That is an amazing video, thanks for sharing.
I did a drain and fill at ~35k, ~60k, and 80k. The issue with changing the fluid on a high mileage transmission for the first time is that you are removing all of the friction material that has worn off the clutch pack. The dirty fluid has accelerated wear but also prevents the clutch(s) from slipping. If you put in all new fluid the clutch(s) can start slipping.
Unfortunately, the fluid change doesn't seem to do anything for the clunky shifts, but the resets do help.
@@TheLawnEngineer Great info. Thanks!
ZF9hp48 in Europen fiat Ducato?????
You can use the same basic procedure.
@@TheLawnEngineer Ok
Thanks
ZF fluid is more like motor oil or a gear oil. Red ATF is not the same.
In general, I agree. The AMSOil Fuel Efficient ATF is red but doesn't feel or smell like standard red ATF (just like ZF fluid that came out the 1st time). They stuck with the red color but their "multi-vehicle ATF" is their standard red ATF.
Red is usually a tint. As long as the fluid meets the standard it’s okay.
MANUFACTURER COUNTS lifetime of a car for the time of warranty. or at max 100 000km. Cars live at least 300 000km. but manufacturer at that point dont care. so thats why it's "lifetime" oil. Which is dumb all oils MUST be changed. So your philosophy is great
Thanks for sharing the truth…can never be said enough.
Ok but you should have a jack stand in use not the jack to avoid killing yourself!
Thanks for the feedback, I’m doing better in my newer videos
just drain the trans fluid ,do still need to change trans filter
Unfortunately that is not possible with this transmission. The filter is located behind the torque converter...you have to remove the transmission to change it.
You mixed up two different oil?
Yes, it meets the Mopar specification which means the additives play nice together. I understand some people don’t recommend but it doesn’t bother me.
Sorry the Zf9hp transmission fluid is special specification it was a fully synthetic with dark green tint it's not your red ATF as well as technically you should use Chrysler mopar or Zf fluid only but what you do in this video it's up to you but it's not scientifically and if you want to be sure you can watch weber auto channel video for Professor John Kelly he have many videos about the transmission fluid history and how to check transmission fluid for Chrysler c300 model 2013 and many others useful video
I agree, it is MOPAR* 68157995AA fluid specification, which the AMSOil OE series transmission fluid lists right on the bottle. Transmission fluid specifications can be very confusing but the color doesn't mean much...all clear fluid is not the same and all red fluid is not the same.
AMSoil.com is a great resource to see what products they offer will work with your vehicle.
I have a 2018 and when I drive the engine feels like it snatching or Jerking if that make sense, do u thinks I'm low on transmission fluid or could it be misfiring but my engine light is not on. Taking it back to the dealership a scam I feel like the last time I took it back there my start and stop wasn't working they said I need to replace both batteries and charged tried to charge me $500 for the batteries and I was like no then they charged me 150 just for looking at it, so going there is not an option for me I'll rather take it to someone else because I feel like why charge me that in I got the vehicle from you all and this who made the car the least they can do is take a look at but whatever.
It sounds like a transmission problem but not with the fluid. There is a fairly common issue with the programming that causes jerking and harsh shifts.
Try the procedure in my Pacifica transmission reset video and let me know if that improves things.
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and if you weigh the oil genius 😮
Ok
Wait ,what u out 3 quarts of transmission fluid in your transmission and u call that a change, ohhhh I get it tomorrow u will do it again, and do it again fir 4 days in a row .. untill all the bad fluid is out, u do know that transmission holds more then 3 quarts, and that every time u out new with old ,well I think u know what happens, but if u are gonna do this process your doing for 4 days in a row ,that makes sense to me...
We can have an intelligent discussion about the pros/cons of all the different types of transmission maintenance. I chose to do this for three main reasons:
1: Reduce contamination in trans fluid: The heavies (metal) will settle at the bottom of the transmission and most will flow out when draining. The remaining contaminants will be diluted with the new fluid.
2: Viscosity breakdown: Trans fluid (oil) viscosity breaks down over time because the oil molecules sustain damage and start to break apart. Putting in 30% new fluid restores 30% of the molecules to perfect condition, mixing with old fluid does not affect this.
3: Transmissions with some miles on them do not like 100% new fluid. The clutch packs wear over time and the clutch material gets suspended in the trans. fluid. This suspended clutch material alters the friction properties of the fluid. 100% new fluid will often lead to clutch packs slipping and cause a previously happy trans to act up.
I never recommend a transmission flush, as this can force contaminants into small passages and it has the issues with 100% new fluid. A flush hurts way more transmissions that it helps.
If I did this every 15k would you see any harm with that? My 2020 has 30k and I loved your video. I agree with the “change”. I do that with my Chevy k1500, drop pan and replace only what fell out, never 100%.
No, I don't see any harm in that. I am currently doing the same thing.
Did you crawl under there without jack stands? Please don’t do that . We want you to live another day!
I do better in my newer videos to show the jack stands.
You had my attention until I saw the flip flops. I cannot learn anything from a man in flip flops
I'm your huckleberry.
Just remember, he's the lawn engineer 😂😂😂
No, no, no. Do not do what this guy says. He is doing the entire procedure incorrectly.
I agree that this isn’t the OEM procedure and as I point out in the video it relies on the transmission being at the correct level prior to the service. The good news is that transmissions are closed systems and don’t lose fluid unless it’s leaking.
We can have an intelligent debate on the pros and cons of each procedure. I think this is a very low risk alternative but everyone is free to do as they wish.
Tom, please elaborate on the "correct" way for a shade tree mechanic to service this transmission aside from getting bent over by the stealership. Its better than just letting it go until it's worn out.
Your video contains some misinformation. The 948TE does use Mopar (68218925AB) but not all Pacifica's were sold with this transmission. My 2018 pacifica has the ZF 9HP48 and requires fluid specification of ZF AA01.500.001. (THEY WONT EVEN SELL ME 68218925AB FOR MY VEHICLE) I contacted Chrysler for clarification and some were sold with an import ZF transmission and some were sold with the 948TE which is produced in Kokomo FCA USA Transmission facility and are a licensed design and are manufactured by stellantis on behalf of FCA (Fiat Chrysler America) and is a modified version of the ZF design and uses different materials and has a different fluid because of chemical compatibility with seals and frictions and design was modified for streamlined production using existing tooling and parts available in the USA. The ZF transmission being the ZF 9HP48 is an imported transmission manufactured in germany by ZF Friedrichshafen AG and uses ZF Lifeguard 9 (AA01.500.001) fluid specification. I strongly encourage ANYONE WATCHING THIS VIDEO to call the dealership with your VIN number to verify which transmission fluid your vehicle takes ESP. considering most Pacifica's have a recall on the transmission that extends the warranty to 10 years/ Unlimited miles and using the wrong fluid WILL VOID WARRANTY.
Thanks for helping people out.
The good news is that the AMSOil is good for both transmissions.
Also, the extended warranty/recall is ok but only kicks in with catastrophic failure…have not heard of anyone collecting on that. There are plenty’s of frustrated owners with herky jerky transmissions.
How many quarts did you add after you did your change? Did you drain out about 3.5 quarts ?
Yes
Your video contains some misinformation. The 948TE does use Mopar (68218925AB) but not all Pacifica's were sold with this transmission. My 2018 pacifica has the ZF 9HP48 and requires fluid specification of ZF AA01.500.001. (THEY WONT EVEN SELL ME 68218925AB FOR MY VEHICLE) I contacted Chrysler for clarification and some were sold with an import ZF transmission and some were sold with the 948TE which is produced in Kokomo FCA USA Transmission facility and are a licensed design and are manufactured by stellantis on behalf of FCA (Fiat Chrysler America) and is a modified version of the ZF design and uses different materials and has a different fluid because of chemical compatibility with seals and frictions and design was modified for streamlined production using existing tooling and parts available in the USA. The ZF transmission being the ZF 9HP48 is an imported transmission manufactured in germany by ZF Friedrichshafen AG and uses ZF Lifeguard 9 (AA01.500.001) fluid specification. I strongly encourage ANYONE WATCHING THIS VIDEO to call the dealership with your VIN number to verify which transmission fluid your vehicle takes ESP. considering most Pacifica's have a recall on the transmission that extends the warranty to 10 years/ Unlimited miles and using the wrong fluid WILL VOID WARRANTY.
Thanks for helping people out.
The good news is that the AMSOil is good for both transmissions.
Also, the extended warranty/recall is ok but only kicks in with catastrophic failure…have not heard of anyone collecting on that. There are plenty’s of frustrated owners with herky jerky transmissions.
How many quarts did you add after you did your change? Did you drain out about 3.5 quarts ?
Yes, drained out a hair over 3.5 quarts and put back the exact amount.
Your video contains some misinformation. The 948TE does use Mopar (68218925AB) but not all Pacifica's were sold with this transmission. My 2018 pacifica has the ZF 9HP48 and requires fluid specification of ZF AA01.500.001. (THEY WONT EVEN SELL ME 68218925AB FOR MY VEHICLE) I contacted Chrysler for clarification and some were sold with an import ZF transmission and some were sold with the 948TE which is produced in Kokomo FCA USA Transmission facility and are a licensed design and are manufactured by stellantis on behalf of FCA (Fiat Chrysler America) and is a modified version of the ZF design and uses different materials and has a different fluid because of chemical compatibility with seals and frictions and design was modified for streamlined production using existing tooling and parts available in the USA. The ZF transmission being the ZF 9HP48 is an imported transmission manufactured in germany by ZF Friedrichshafen AG and uses ZF Lifeguard 9 (AA01.500.001) fluid specification. I strongly encourage ANYONE WATCHING THIS VIDEO to call the dealership with your VIN number to verify which transmission fluid your vehicle takes ESP. considering most Pacifica's have a recall on the transmission that extends the warranty to 10 years/ Unlimited miles and using the wrong fluid WILL VOID WARRANTY.
Thanks for helping people out.
The good news is that the AMSOil is good for both transmissions.
Also, the extended warranty/recall is ok but only kicks in with catastrophic failure…have not heard of anyone collecting on that. There are plenty’s of frustrated owners with herky jerky transmissions.
Your video contains some misinformation. The 948TE does use Mopar (68218925AB) but not all Pacifica's were sold with this transmission. My 2018 pacifica has the ZF 9HP48 and requires fluid specification of ZF AA01.500.001. (THEY WONT EVEN SELL ME 68218925AB FOR MY VEHICLE) I contacted Chrysler for clarification and some were sold with an import ZF transmission and some were sold with the 948TE which is produced in Kokomo FCA USA Transmission facility and are a licensed design and are manufactured by stellantis on behalf of FCA (Fiat Chrysler America) and is a modified version of the ZF design and uses different materials and has a different fluid because of chemical compatibility with seals and frictions and design was modified for streamlined production using existing tooling and parts available in the USA. The ZF transmission being the ZF 9HP48 is an imported transmission manufactured in germany by ZF Friedrichshafen AG and uses ZF Lifeguard 9 (AA01.500.001) fluid specification. I strongly encourage ANYONE WATCHING THIS VIDEO to call the dealership with your VIN number to verify which transmission fluid your vehicle takes ESP. considering most Pacifica's have a recall on the transmission that extends the warranty to 10 years/ Unlimited miles and using the wrong fluid WILL VOID WARRANTY.
Thanks for helping people out.
The good news is that the AMSOil is good for both transmissions.
Also, the extended warranty/recall is ok but only kicks in with catastrophic failure…have not heard of anyone collecting on that. There are plenty’s of frustrated owners with herky jerky transmissions.
@@TheLawnEngineer Well I called amsoil tech support and they said it only meets the specification for ZF S671 090 255 which is only good up to the 6hp (6 speed) zf transmissions.
@@TheLawnEngineer please refence amsoil document g3110 for the related information.