Sterling had like 6 minutes total in Black Panther but he fucking ATE every second he was on screen. This is the perfect example of "There are no small roles, only small actors."
I’d been living in Japan for the last 13 years, and had no idea who he was. I just thought he was some actor hired for that opening scene. When I saw this scene, I thought, “Holy crap, this guy’s good!”
First saw him in the predator movie and he was wasted there they could've done more with his character Most recently he absolutely kills it as angstrom leavy in invincibles though dudes incredible voice actor
Such as powerful scene. You not only seen the sadness and hurt in both Erik Killmonger's face & N'Jobu's face but you can also feel the sadness & hurt in them. Salute to both of those brother Mike B & Sterling K. Brown for such a existence job.
@@MerlinTheCommenter it's from the challenge scene. "That's not my name, princess! Ask me, king." "No." "Ask me." "Take him away" Dude with the green disc mouth- "Who are you?" "I am N'Jadaka, son of N'Jobu! I found my daddy with panther claws in his chest! You aint the son of a king, you a son of a murderer!"
@@NeoConker626 Fuck Thanos, dude with the green disk mouth was the real treat. Because of that fucker asking , we got killmonger as wakanda's king and thus many wakandias got killed in that short war
I found this scene to be the most interesting in the movie. N'Jobu starts his talk by mentioning how happy he is that his son found a way into Wakanda, and then he reminisces about Wakanda's beautiful sunsets. But then, the happy expression quickly turns to bitterness, as he tells his son that Wakanda may not accept him, despite his lineage. The bitterness then turns into regret, when he realizes that N'Jadaka is truly lost (metaphorically speaking; "No tears for me?") and that he had some responsibility in N'Jadaka's life path ("Well, look at what I have done...I should've taken you back long ago."). In the final seconds before N'Jadaka awakens, N'Jobu is just silent. I interpret his silence as a mixed feeling to N'Jadaka's belief that Wakanda is the one that's lost, not them. He probably agrees that Wakanda is lost too, but he is worried that two lost souls trying to find their ways in life may lead to more loss rather than enlightenment.
Everything was good until the end. The idea of the scene is that N'Jadaka is full of void and rage, eroded from years of honing his efficient military killing to numb the pain of what had happened to his father. Becoming a killing machine was a volatile attempt at coping with pain and loss.
@@MerlinTheCommenter I think he is right. N'Jobu did think Wakanda was lost as well. But he realised at that moment, that his actions... did lead to more lost and pain than fixing the problem.
1:15 "Ungubani? Who are you? I asked this question of myself many times. Often times, I do not know. But I do know I am no longer the man my country knew. Maybe love? My son? It has all changed me. T’Chaka must see what we can do, how we can change the course of time for the people who struggle so much in this land. Strangers to me, but my brothers and sisters still. How can I look at them, with the same skin as me, stolen from the same place I came from and not reach out to them? How can I sit idly by and watch in pain and return to Wakanda as if there was nothing to see at all? Who am I? A war dog who will not leave the lost tribe behind again. Who are you, my son? You will ask this one day and know the answer: N’Jadaka, son of N’Jobu.”
“No tears for me?” God man, that broke me. That’s the look of a father that knew he failed not only his ancestors and heritage, but his only family, his son. That’s heart breaking, and now he has to watch from the above to see what his son becomes
at 1:35 where erik goes from an adult to a kid absolutely kills me. its him going back and experiencing emotionsthat he hasnt felt since his father’s passing. hes never truly healed from his fathers death just grown hateful and bitter to the people that did this to his father. he never healed his inner child. causing it to come out in this scene. in comparison to tachalla being secure and knowing how to react in the ancestral plane. meanwhile erik doesnt know what to do and wakes up scared and angry. experiencing those same feelings as when he found his father the first time.
@@AnswerisB I'd rather they didn't, don't get me wrong Michael B Jordan is an excellent actor, but I think the whole point of Killmonger was to teach Wakanda a lesson that they should engage with the rest of the world, since they did that at the end of the film his character has served his purpose so leave Killmonger rest...
@@EternalPayne but Chadwick passed (R.I.P) I think it’ll be interesting if killmonger could come back to life and redeem himself as the new black panther or something
It's also incredible how hard he tries to suppress it. Like his path of vengeance was beset by the loss of his father, but he's had to harden himself so much that he can barely shed a tear when he's finally able to speak to his father again after all these years sad.
“They will say that you’re lost” “”But I’m right here” This is the deepest and best line in this movie as a black person from America who doesn’t know their original roots. Us as a people aren’t lost we just need the outreach or information of who we are. We are the same people that need aid to a degree but it’s annoying how we are outcasted
It hit me different when N'jobu said that he fears he will be called lost. I remember when i was young (8 yrs old), this guy I used to live by, despite being nice to him, used to call me a Black American 'Akata' to my face. It wasn't until i was in my 20s that i learned what it meant. I've never insulted him.
Alot of countries in africa think akata is a word for african americans, but the word has a meaning in only one country to refer to black people as wild animals. Other countries saw it being used to refer to black people, and since that akata word has no meaning to them, they simply taught it meant black americans. So your neigbor might not have knowingly been insulting you unless he is from the country where the akata term means wild animal
The word Akata on its own just means an African who was not raised on the land, if you wanna learn more about the word just research it. Someone explained it better on Urban Dictionary. I just think some other Nigerians use it in a derogatory way, but the word in its language on its own is not malicious. It all depends on context.
@@fromasgardwithlove2257 For us, it's used to mean 'lost'. They pick on us for either our ancestors getting shipped overseas, and/or for not coming back. Which is messed up because i discovered that my ancestors have Igbo orgins. I didn't learn that until i was s grown up.
I was expecting my first born back in 2018 when this film came out. I was extremely emotional. Being a young father in my 20s not knowing what to expect because I had a provider but never a father figure. At 13 I got lost, joined a gang became angry and hated everyone and trusted no one. I deeply hated my life and in my own mistakes hurt everyone around me for my own selfish choices But when you become a father something changes deeply in you that your finally scared for once because your heart is FINALLY exposed for the whole world and tear you down through your own child. Your child is your heart in human form. My grandfather was murdered in front of my father when he was 8. Along with his 2 brothers. At 8 my father had to become a man along with my other two uncles. That generational curse was never broken and that hate Carried over to my family. I cried deeply watching this scene. This scene hit me in a place where I didn’t even know exists. I lost myself through my actions and choices that left me abandoned and angry at the world and only pain made me cope. But when my son was born something in me woke me up and made realize it was okay to love again. To all the fathers out there do not let this movie go over your head. Their is a powerful message in this movie and it’s about the importance we play as a father to our children. The choices they make while finding to be their own person in this fucked up world. This movie and scene awakened skeletons in my closet that I needed to face in order to become a better man. I hope this message helps others to face their demons as well.
Such a strong and powerful message. Thank you for pouring your heart here. I know deep in my heart that you'll be and already are the BEST father your child could have ever dream of ! Keep pushing. We love you !!
Wow, that's so amazing! As a stranger on the Internet who has and still is uncertain about their life, I'm so proud of you, man! You'll be a super awesome dad! 👏
Hurt turns into Anger which turns into Revenge....Kilmonger was gonna kill T'Challa or die trying but he wasn't gonna be that secret that they could hide anymore
I always found this scene very very powerful. Especially these lines: Father: “...I fear you might not be welcome.” Son: “Why?” Father: “They will say your are lost” Son: “But I’m right here” Father: “I should have taken you back a long time ago” Now fully grown, filled with anger and void: “Well maybe your home’s was the ones that’s lost. That’s why they can’t find us.”
And the look that the father gave Killmonger after he said that. At that point he knows, his son cannot be reached. Such a great, powerful and well acted scene
@@teofilo619 exactly, N'Jobu knows he's the reason why his son is so full of hatred hence why he said "look at what I've done" had he not made a deal with Klaw and betrayed Wakanda his son wouldn't have become a monster it's not all N'Jobu's fault though and I can see his side because Wakanda had technology to help but chose not too, also as T'Challa said his father should have brought him home (not sure if that would have changed much as he would have found out the truth eventually) but it certainly would've gone very different, on a lighter note that scene where T'Challa scoulds the Ancestors (his father included) was beautiful. R.I.P Chadwick Boseman...
That is also true, because wakanda isolating themselves for centuries and they already lost the connections to the world. Living in the planet with the greatest technology and resources but not to engage at all, kilmonger doubts this is correct. If you think it, without kilmonger to open his mind, perhaps blank panther and his army wont even join the effort to fight thanos.
Damn those eyes were powerful as fuck he makes solid eye contact and when killmonger says “it's just life around here” he can't keep eye contact because his guilt of what he has done to his own child takes hold. that exhale that he did before he said “no tears for me” and every single one of his dads words hit so hard the fact that they make the word INSTEAD echo is very powerful as well. Best non villain, villain of marvel by far, his dad knew he was lost as soon as he didn't react to the magic of being able to speak with him again. ( because we all know how we would react to seeing a lost loved one) This is the real power I wanna see more of!!!... more planes of existence more balancing the scales!!!!
It gets more sad in Wakanda Forever seeing the son end up like the father, lonely, and I still like his reasons for all his actions, pain gets you acting some kind of way. Gotta say, him and Michael Fassbender Magneto are my best are my best MCU villains👌
@@IronheartvsMiles we can all understand kill monger's feelings, we're supposed to. But to say he's right is like saying half the war criminals in history are right. Thinking the ends justify the means is how all this shit started in the first place. Of course, T'Chaka and the other kings were also wrong. That's why T'Challa screams at them on the ancestral plane. He's horrified at what they've done.
I love how the second he hears his father speak, he turns back to a little boy again. Immediately showing his heart, his pain, who he is, if I heard my father again, he died too, idk, I can understand.
The moment he realized his son was truly lost. Then the 1 tear that goes down Killmongers face revealing the hurt he's buried beneath his hate, then he just turns back to anger. I was really impressed with this movie/character arc. I'd love a series showing Erik becoming Killmonger. It'd be cool seeing his 1 track mind ruthlessly pursuing his goals. Idk his backstop really intrigues me.
N'Jobu betrayed Wankada not to hurt his country but to help them, strengthen them... and because of his betrayal he was killed by his own brother.... and he didn't even receive an proper burial.... his murder was hidden from the very place he loved
Such a short scene from N’Jobu and Killmonger, yet one of my all time favorites in the MCU. That “Look at what I have done” and immediately cut to Present -Day Killmonger from his Child version was just powerful yet overlooked
@@ssplif5415 Moon Knight confims that all Afterlifes are real, Tawaret says "oh, the ancestral plane is lovely". This means that he is actually speaking to his dead father
*N'Jobu's notes* "Who are you? I asked this question of myself many times. Often times, I do not know but I do know I am no longer the man of integrity once known (sp?) Maybe love? My son? ___ have all changed me. T'Chaka must see what we can do. How can we change the course of ___ for the people who struggle so much in this land. Strangers to me, but my brothers and sisters still. How can I look at ___ with the same skin as me, stolen from the same place I come from and not reach out to them? How can I sit idly by and watch ___ and return to Wakanda as if ___ at all? Who am I? A War Dog who ___ the lost (?) tribe behind again. Who are you my son? You will ___ this one day and know the ___ N'Jadaka son of N'Jobu"
This scene teaches that even if you were to visit the dead or them visiting you, there's no turning someone who has set his heart at something. You just simply have to believe.
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 I mean, T'chaka didn't died in wakanda. He died in the Vienna International Center, which is in Austria. I think when they died, they return to the place that they associated the closest to home, such as T'Chaka and T'Challa bond to Wakanda. N'Jobu was willing to steal and sacrifice the few lives of the people of wakanda to save the oppressed people around the world, therefore stating that he cut ties with Wakanda. Then settle in America where he started his family, which pretty says that he chosen America to be his home. But idk, maybe thats the flaw of the movie that was overlooked.
I think the reason why T’Chaka was with his ancestors was because they buried him in Wakanda after his death in Vienna. N’Jobu died in Oakland and was buried in Oakland.
@@narendramartosudarmo But you could see outside the window that the area where the ancestors are. He's just trapped in the apartment, away from the ancestors.
I found it trully interesting that when T'Challa found his father in this world (idk what it's called I don't remember), he always spoke to him as a grown man, while Erik spoke to his father half as a young boy, half as a man. I believe this could maybe shed some light on the fact that while Erik still has an angry, scared and hurt child within him he hasn't yet fully healead, which in turn, makes him act in ways that are more emotional and revengeful than pondered and reasonable, T'Challa already has a wiser and mature man within him which shows in his behaviour, as he tries to learn and do what's best for his people, but also others
Just like a child to say that but I’m right here,not really understanding what his dad meant when he said they will say that you’re lost. Such a great scene
I assume that "They'll say you are lost, means N'Jobu was afraid that the Wakandans would reject his son (Killmonger) because the son was born in the US despite having Wakandan heritage
This scene here is when I heard people actually cry in theaters. This was awful. He was left all alone in the world after finding his dad murdered. An orphaned black kid in the earl 90s in freaking Oakland? Jesus christ.
What hits me so hard is when Erik's dad says "no tears for me?" And Erik's response lets him know that grew up in a world where death is commonplace and that also he has probably had to take a life himself and that it hits him so hard that he failed his son and left him to fend for himself. They both are lost, with unhealed wounds.
He's referring to the fact that by now his son is completely unmoved by the miracle of speaking with his fathers spirit after a lifetime without him. At first Killmonger was motivated by the loss of his father. But through the years he's become consumed with hatred to the point his father is no longer really a factor. He's solely motivated by his hate of wakanda and his desire for power. He spent his life turning himself into an instrument of vengeance and lost his humanity. Or something like that.
Yeah, this guy's a well-executed villain. Genuinely tragic backstory and motivations, while still being utterly heinous, unjustifiable and inexcusable in the evil he commits.
@@IndengiousGoth He would’ve been more interesting if he had actually got what he wanted lol. I wanted to see what he could do, the writers didn’t give him enough power.
This scene hit so many different levels. After his father says no tears for me in a questioning form. After he transitions back from a child into an adult, the tears flow freely against his will.
Every actor nails their part in this movie, but Sterling K. Brown's simple appearance and subtle disappointment with the turns life has taken here is a golden ladder to allow Michael B. Jordan's character to turn to the next level after this scene
n’jobu knew that this wasnt going to end well for his son & that no matter what the damage he caused was already done & there wasnt anything he can do to prevent what was to come.
Just finished watching BP 2, and I understand why Killmonger was the one who talked to Shuri during the ritual. Thankfully, Shuri came to her senses in the end.
IMO Killmonger was right, why should she let him live after he drowned her mother, her dad, brother and now mum are gone and it would’ve been right to kill Namor
I thought he was going to meet the ancestors and they were going to say unworthy he was of the position but instead I got a sad talk between father and son. I used to hate this scene when I first saw it because I thought they were making the villain too sympathetic compared to the hero. However overtime I’ve grown to appreciate it more after learning that was always the intention. But seriously it was hard to hate Kilmonger and it didn’t help that I loved Michael B Jordan because his performance as Creed!
I've always loved the transition from older killmonger to young killmonger when his father talks to him. There's a tone a father takes that in a way snaps you back to attentiveness no matter the age . Not out of fear but respect
Wish Killmonger comes back and redeems himself I mean his motives were clear he wanted to continue to help poor nations but the way his father started it was very bad and fate had to turn on him I'd say he's more of a tragic antagonist rather than a pure villain
@Jing Soo Cho However he was an innocent child that lost his father and the reason why he hates T challa is because he couldnt get revenge on King T chaka so he takes it out on his son.
@@cutiepie6796 yeah you're kinda stupid. The whole parallel between the two is supposed to show that killmonger was wrong for wanting to kill and "rule" tchalla knew it couldn't and shouldn't be like that. You're either trolling or just stupid.
They have to bring back killmonger now dat Chadwick is no longer here with us two great actors on screen they made this movie master piece won’t be same but gota bring back Micheal b Jordan
See Disney! This is how you write a story! No social politics or feminism. Good writing and powerful back stories for not just your mc but you antagonist as well. Make it hard for us to choose whose right and whose wrong. As a grown man this scene brings tears to my eyes cause it’s relatable.
You say there’s no feminism when T’Challa’s whole security were women and his girlfriend was THE ONLY ONE doing what Killmonger/T’challa wanted to do the RIGHT way. Hell the women have been carrying this franchise thus far in the story No social politics? Killmonger is literally planning to commit a genocide to wipe out white people, like Hitler & the Jews. Last point: Vulture/Thanos both have solid reasonings to their actions. This movie is incredible but your wording to give it compliments is so ridiculous
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Sterling had like 6 minutes total in Black Panther but he fucking ATE every second he was on screen. This is the perfect example of "There are no small roles, only small actors."
I’d been living in Japan for the last 13 years, and had no idea who he was. I just thought he was some actor hired for that opening scene. When I saw this scene, I thought, “Holy crap, this guy’s good!”
Definitely one of our best! Everything I've seen this man in has been high level skill towards the craft! Like better than Denzel level of skill!
Definitely one of the best actors currently. Look at his other roles, man is killing it
Honestly his performance really stuck with me more then anybody else in the movie
First saw him in the predator movie and he was wasted there they could've done more with his character Most recently he absolutely kills it as angstrom leavy in invincibles though dudes incredible voice actor
There is an African Proverb that say “A child that is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth”....
Yikes
Huh ! I thought that was a Naruto quote.
@@JabamiLain Lol no, its an African proverb..
"No tears for me?"
"Everybody dies. It's just life around here."
That sad knowing look on his dad's face. 😔
what’s crazy is after Erik as a kid said when he changes back to an adult he’s clearly crying
Such as powerful scene. You not only seen the sadness and hurt in both Erik Killmonger's face & N'Jobu's face but you can also feel the sadness & hurt in them. Salute to both of those brother Mike B & Sterling K. Brown for such a existence job.
Dang...
I found my daddy with panther claws in his chest. You ain’t the son of a king, you the son of a murderer!
Wut
@@Maxine.the_bean it sounds like he's quoting killmonger but I don't remember that line
@@MerlinTheCommenter it's from the challenge scene.
"That's not my name, princess! Ask me, king."
"No."
"Ask me."
"Take him away"
Dude with the green disc mouth- "Who are you?"
"I am N'Jadaka, son of N'Jobu! I found my daddy with panther claws in his chest! You aint the son of a king, you a son of a murderer!"
@@NeoConker626 Fuck Thanos, dude with the green disk mouth was the real treat. Because of that fucker asking , we got killmonger as wakanda's king and thus many wakandias got killed in that short war
@@NeoConker626 Bro "dude with the green disc mouth" I almost choked on my food reading that LMAO
Damn, that realization of failing your duty as a father at the end. Fuck, that's hard to look at.
He did not fail. They did
@@recur9759No. You.
@@LordOfThePancakes lol stop being petty
He didn't fail. His Brother was weak and stupid.
I found this scene to be the most interesting in the movie. N'Jobu starts his talk by mentioning how happy he is that his son found a way into Wakanda, and then he reminisces about Wakanda's beautiful sunsets. But then, the happy expression quickly turns to bitterness, as he tells his son that Wakanda may not accept him, despite his lineage. The bitterness then turns into regret, when he realizes that N'Jadaka is truly lost (metaphorically speaking; "No tears for me?") and that he had some responsibility in N'Jadaka's life path ("Well, look at what I have done...I should've taken you back long ago."). In the final seconds before N'Jadaka awakens, N'Jobu is just silent. I interpret his silence as a mixed feeling to N'Jadaka's belief that Wakanda is the one that's lost, not them. He probably agrees that Wakanda is lost too, but he is worried that two lost souls trying to find their ways in life may lead to more loss rather than enlightenment.
Everything was good until the end. The idea of the scene is that N'Jadaka is full of void and rage, eroded from years of honing his efficient military killing to numb the pain of what had happened to his father. Becoming a killing machine was a volatile attempt at coping with pain and loss.
@@MerlinTheCommenter I think he is right. N'Jobu did think Wakanda was lost as well. But he realised at that moment, that his actions... did lead to more lost and pain than fixing the problem.
Facts
Great explanation and responses. Powerful, sad scene. PEACE from ATL ✊🏾 📸
That...was beautiful to read😍
1:15 "Ungubani? Who are you? I asked this question of myself many times. Often times, I do not know. But I do know I am no longer the man my country knew. Maybe love? My son? It has all changed me. T’Chaka must see what we can do, how we can change the course of time for the people who struggle so much in this land. Strangers to me, but my brothers and sisters still. How can I look at them, with the same skin as me, stolen from the same place I came from and not reach out to them? How can I sit idly by and watch in pain and return to Wakanda as if there was nothing to see at all? Who am I? A war dog who will not leave the lost tribe behind again. Who are you, my son? You will ask this one day and know the answer: N’Jadaka, son of N’Jobu.”
Thank you for this ❤️🩹
I'm amazed you read that.
@@TotskuyaKurogane me too
Arguably the most meaningful scene of the entire film.
And that is a VERY high bar.
“No tears for me?” God man, that broke me. That’s the look of a father that knew he failed not only his ancestors and heritage, but his only family, his son. That’s heart breaking, and now he has to watch from the above to see what his son becomes
So sad that N'Jobu can't join the ancestors.
@Jing Soo Cho SHUT UP RACIST
@Jing Soo Cho it's true. He wishes he had sent him back home with him even though he was on this mission.
@@cutiepie6796 How the fuck is he racist?
@@cutiepie6796 he’s not being racist he’s stating facts
@Downvoting your vid SHUT UP RACIST
at 1:35 where erik goes from an adult to a kid absolutely kills me. its him going back and experiencing emotionsthat he hasnt felt since his father’s passing. hes never truly healed from his fathers death just grown hateful and bitter to the people that did this to his father. he never healed his inner child. causing it to come out in this scene. in comparison to tachalla being secure and knowing how to react in the ancestral plane. meanwhile erik doesnt know what to do and wakes up scared and angry. experiencing those same feelings as when he found his father the first time.
If they cast back Killmonger I wanna see him taking his father to join the ancestors.
Killmonger comes back to life in the comics. Perhaps they'll do the same in the MCU
@@AnswerisB how ?
@@kennethdejesus8107advanced science, alien technology, or maybe magic either one will work.
@@AnswerisB I'd rather they didn't, don't get me wrong Michael B Jordan is an excellent actor, but I think the whole point of Killmonger was to teach Wakanda a lesson that they should engage with the rest of the world, since they did that at the end of the film his character has served his purpose so leave Killmonger rest...
@@EternalPayne but Chadwick passed (R.I.P) I think it’ll be interesting if killmonger could come back to life and redeem himself as the new black panther or something
The love killmonger has for his dad in this scene is incredible.
It's also incredible how hard he tries to suppress it. Like his path of vengeance was beset by the loss of his father, but he's had to harden himself so much that he can barely shed a tear when he's finally able to speak to his father again after all these years sad.
“They will say that you’re lost”
“”But I’m right here”
This is the deepest and best line in this movie as a black person from America who doesn’t know their original roots. Us as a people aren’t lost we just need the outreach or information of who we are. We are the same people that need aid to a degree but it’s annoying how we are outcasted
And "the powers that be" are ensuring we NEVER know our history and original roots.
I feel this comment so much.
What a gut punch of a scene. One of the best acted scenes in the whole MCU.
It hit me different when N'jobu said that he fears he will be called lost. I remember when i was young (8 yrs old), this guy I used to live by, despite being nice to him, used to call me a Black American 'Akata' to my face. It wasn't until i was in my 20s that i learned what it meant. I've never insulted him.
Im so sorry :(
Alot of countries in africa think akata is a word for african americans, but the word has a meaning in only one country to refer to black people as wild animals. Other countries saw it being used to refer to black people, and since that akata word has no meaning to them, they simply taught it meant black americans. So your neigbor might not have knowingly been insulting you unless he is from the country where the akata term means wild animal
@@moneybxndz161 fuck your sorry its all war for you Africans
The word Akata on its own just means an African who was not raised on the land, if you wanna learn more about the word just research it. Someone explained it better on Urban Dictionary. I just think some other Nigerians use it in a derogatory way, but the word in its language on its own is not malicious. It all depends on context.
@@fromasgardwithlove2257 For us, it's used to mean 'lost'. They pick on us for either our ancestors getting shipped overseas, and/or for not coming back. Which is messed up because i discovered that my ancestors have Igbo orgins. I didn't learn that until i was s grown up.
I love this scene. It breaks my heart.
Why? Thought the whole movie was stupid
@@PremiumWater seriously why are you here and why are you even commenting? No disrespect but why bother look this up, read the comments and type that.
Just shut up.
@@TheProtagonist2020 Nah you shut up.
It's an incredible scene. It perfectly illustrates the complexity of Killmonger's character.
I was expecting my first born back in 2018 when this film came out. I was extremely emotional. Being a young father in my 20s not knowing what to expect because I had a provider but never a father figure. At 13 I got lost, joined a gang became angry and hated everyone and trusted no one. I deeply hated my life and in my own mistakes hurt everyone around me for my own selfish choices But when you become a father something changes deeply in you that your finally scared for once because your heart is FINALLY exposed for the whole world and tear you down through your own child. Your child is your heart in human form. My grandfather was murdered in front of my father when he was 8. Along with his 2 brothers. At 8 my father had to become a man along with my other two uncles. That generational curse was never broken and that hate Carried over to my family.
I cried deeply watching this scene. This scene hit me in a place where I didn’t even know exists. I lost myself through my actions and choices that left me abandoned and angry at the world and only pain made me cope. But when my son was born something in me woke me up and made realize it was okay to love again.
To all the fathers out there do not let this movie go over your head. Their is a powerful message in this movie and it’s about the importance we play as a father to our children. The choices they make while finding to be their own person in this fucked up world. This movie and scene awakened skeletons in my closet that I needed to face in order to become a better man. I hope this message helps others to face their demons as well.
Such a strong and powerful message. Thank you for pouring your heart here. I know deep in my heart that you'll be and already are the BEST father your child could have ever dream of ! Keep pushing. We love you !!
Wow, that's so amazing! As a stranger on the Internet who has and still is uncertain about their life, I'm so proud of you, man! You'll be a super awesome dad! 👏
Much respect brother to you and yours. I hope your journey continues to be powerful.
I was really touched by your story, I hope everything is well with you
Well said
*Everybody dies. It's just life around here*
When the tear runs down his dads face...always gets me.Such a powerful scene.
Hurt turns into Anger which turns into Revenge....Kilmonger was gonna kill T'Challa or die trying but he wasn't gonna be that secret that they could hide anymore
I always found this scene very very powerful.
Especially these lines:
Father: “...I fear you might not be welcome.”
Son: “Why?”
Father: “They will say your are lost”
Son: “But I’m right here”
Father: “I should have taken you back a long time ago”
Now fully grown, filled with anger and void:
“Well maybe your home’s was the ones that’s lost. That’s why they can’t find us.”
And the look that the father gave Killmonger after he said that. At that point he knows, his son cannot be reached.
Such a great, powerful and well acted scene
@@teofilo619 exactly, N'Jobu knows he's the reason why his son is so full of hatred hence why he said "look at what I've done" had he not made a deal with Klaw and betrayed Wakanda his son wouldn't have become a monster it's not all N'Jobu's fault though and I can see his side because Wakanda had technology to help but chose not too, also as T'Challa said his father should have brought him home (not sure if that would have changed much as he would have found out the truth eventually) but it certainly would've gone very different, on a lighter note that scene where T'Challa scoulds the Ancestors (his father included) was beautiful. R.I.P Chadwick Boseman...
@@EternalPayne true but I blame
T’chaka because he didn’t have to leave his nephew by himself
That is also true, because wakanda isolating themselves for centuries and they already lost the connections to the world. Living in the planet with the greatest technology and resources but not to engage at all, kilmonger doubts this is correct.
If you think it, without kilmonger to open his mind, perhaps blank panther and his army wont even join the effort to fight thanos.
What is the little boys name
Damn those eyes were powerful as fuck he makes solid eye contact and when killmonger says “it's just life around here” he can't keep eye contact because his guilt of what he has done to his own child takes hold. that exhale that he did before he said “no tears for me” and every single one of his dads words hit so hard the fact that they make the word INSTEAD echo is very powerful as well. Best non villain, villain of marvel by far, his dad knew he was lost as soon as he didn't react to the magic of being able to speak with him again. ( because we all know how we would react to seeing a lost loved one) This is the real power I wanna see more of!!!... more planes of existence more balancing the scales!!!!
It gets more sad in Wakanda Forever seeing the son end up like the father, lonely, and I still like his reasons for all his actions, pain gets you acting some kind of way. Gotta say, him and Michael Fassbender Magneto are my best are my best MCU villains👌
Sterling K Brown is one of the most talented actors of this time.
I really felt for the dude
*He had so much rage that his own father couldn't save him*
*Going to the realm didn't help him find peace it just gave him more rage*
killmonger was right
@@IronheartvsMiles we can all understand kill monger's feelings, we're supposed to. But to say he's right is like saying half the war criminals in history are right. Thinking the ends justify the means is how all this shit started in the first place.
Of course, T'Chaka and the other kings were also wrong. That's why T'Challa screams at them on the ancestral plane. He's horrified at what they've done.
@@mistsriderAny child who found their parents dead in their apartment would want revenge.
Sterling K. Brown is one of The Best American Actors.
Sterling K. Brown is an amazing actor, he only has two scenes but his presence is just memorable
I love how the second he hears his father speak, he turns back to a little boy again. Immediately showing his heart, his pain, who he is, if I heard my father again, he died too, idk, I can understand.
"No tears for me"
Broke my heart
The moment he realized his son was truly lost. Then the 1 tear that goes down Killmongers face revealing the hurt he's buried beneath his hate, then he just turns back to anger. I was really impressed with this movie/character arc. I'd love a series showing Erik becoming Killmonger. It'd be cool seeing his 1 track mind ruthlessly pursuing his goals. Idk his backstop really intrigues me.
« Everybody dies. It’s just life around here. ». So sad but true.
You can actually see the anguish in N'Jobu's face, he knows that not only did he fail his country, but he failed his son as well.
N'Jobu betrayed Wankada not to hurt his country but to help them, strengthen them... and because of his betrayal he was killed by his own brother.... and he didn't even receive an proper burial.... his murder was hidden from the very place he loved
Eric deserved better
Such a short scene from N’Jobu and Killmonger, yet one of my all time favorites in the MCU. That “Look at what I have done” and immediately cut to Present -Day Killmonger from his Child version was just powerful yet overlooked
This movie is so dark and fantastic. I hope Marvel always make a movie like this.
It’s important to know how his father sees him in each cut. Very telling …
What’s crazy is that after moon knight it’s confirmed that he was actually speaking with his father.
Facts
on god thanks man dis is wat im here trying to clarify🙏🏾🔥
How does this confirm that?
I dont get it what are u trying to say
@@ssplif5415 Moon Knight confims that all Afterlifes are real, Tawaret says "oh, the ancestral plane is lovely". This means that he is actually speaking to his dead father
Such a great movie with emotions as well as action mixed together.
*N'Jobu's notes*
"Who are you? I asked this question
of myself many times. Often times, I do not
know but I do know I am no longer the man
of integrity once known (sp?)
Maybe love? My son?
___ have all changed me. T'Chaka must see
what we can do. How can we change the course
of ___ for the people who struggle so
much in this land. Strangers to me, but my
brothers and sisters still. How can I look at
___ with the same skin as me, stolen from
the same place I come from and not reach out
to them? How can I sit idly by and watch
___ and return to Wakanda as if
___ at all?
Who am I? A War Dog who ___
the lost (?) tribe behind again.
Who are you my son? You will ___
this one day and know the ___
N'Jadaka son of N'Jobu"
KILLMONGER WAS REALLY THE GOOD GUY TO US AFRICAN AMERICANS OVER HERE
EXACTLY
I was with him until he said we kill them "and their children." He lost me with that last portion.
Ehh not everyone. I sided with Tchalla in this one. Killmonger became an extremist.
@@angelaharris9714THEN U R A FOOL
@@JeremiahservantU MORON
This scene teaches that even if you were to visit the dead or them visiting you, there's no turning someone who has set his heart at something. You just simply have to believe.
Now when he died does he go with his father
Yea
No he is in wakanda since that where he died
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 I mean, T'chaka didn't died in wakanda. He died in the Vienna International Center, which is in Austria. I think when they died, they return to the place that they associated the closest to home, such as T'Chaka and T'Challa bond to Wakanda. N'Jobu was willing to steal and sacrifice the few lives of the people of wakanda to save the oppressed people around the world, therefore stating that he cut ties with Wakanda. Then settle in America where he started his family, which pretty says that he chosen America to be his home. But idk, maybe thats the flaw of the movie that was overlooked.
I think the reason why T’Chaka was with his ancestors was because they buried him in Wakanda after his death in Vienna. N’Jobu died in Oakland and was buried in Oakland.
@@narendramartosudarmo But you could see outside the window that the area where the ancestors are. He's just trapped in the apartment, away from the ancestors.
I found it trully interesting that when T'Challa found his father in this world (idk what it's called I don't remember), he always spoke to him as a grown man, while Erik spoke to his father half as a young boy, half as a man.
I believe this could maybe shed some light on the fact that while Erik still has an angry, scared and hurt child within him he hasn't yet fully healead, which in turn, makes him act in ways that are more emotional and revengeful than pondered and reasonable, T'Challa already has a wiser and mature man within him which shows in his behaviour, as he tries to learn and do what's best for his people, but also others
Exactly, perfectly said. Black Panther learned the path of vengeance and revenge isn’t worth it in Captain America: Civil War
Just like a child to say that but I’m right here,not really understanding what his dad meant when he said they will say that you’re lost. Such a great scene
I assume that "They'll say you are lost, means N'Jobu was afraid that the Wakandans would reject his son (Killmonger) because the son was born in the US despite having Wakandan heritage
This is one of the BEST scenes in the MCU. period. 🙏🙌🔥🤤💯👊
This scene here is when I heard people actually cry in theaters. This was awful. He was left all alone in the world after finding his dad murdered. An orphaned black kid in the earl 90s in freaking Oakland? Jesus christ.
What hits me so hard is when Erik's dad says "no tears for me?" And Erik's response lets him know that grew up in a world where death is commonplace and that also he has probably had to take a life himself and that it hits him so hard that he failed his son and left him to fend for himself. They both are lost, with unhealed wounds.
2:15 no tears for u? Did u see how anguished he was when he saw ur corpse?
He's referring to the fact that by now his son is completely unmoved by the miracle of speaking with his fathers spirit after a lifetime without him. At first Killmonger was motivated by the loss of his father. But through the years he's become consumed with hatred to the point his father is no longer really a factor. He's solely motivated by his hate of wakanda and his desire for power. He spent his life turning himself into an instrument of vengeance and lost his humanity. Or something like that.
What a sad scene
See this is why I always felt bad for Erik yes he was villain for him to loose his father and basically the world shame him that’s heartbreaking 💔
Yeah, this guy's a well-executed villain. Genuinely tragic backstory and motivations, while still being utterly heinous, unjustifiable and inexcusable in the evil he commits.
Killmonger wasn't even a villain... he had a reason for what and who he was
That’s exactly what makes him a villain lol. He could’ve dealt with his issues but instead took it out on innocent people.
@@chimchimgirlz I agree to me killmonger was a weak villian and a coward.
@@IndengiousGoth He would’ve been more interesting if he had actually got what he wanted lol. I wanted to see what he could do, the writers didn’t give him enough power.
@@chimchimgirlz I wanted him to be comic accurate not some ignorant ghetto punk
@@IndengiousGoth you’re weird
This scene hit so many different levels. After his father says no tears for me in a questioning form. After he transitions back from a child into an adult, the tears flow freely against his will.
I feel for n'jobu
I cant imagine losing my parents
Every actor nails their part in this movie, but Sterling K. Brown's simple appearance and subtle disappointment with the turns life has taken here is a golden ladder to allow Michael B. Jordan's character to turn to the next level after this scene
The actor who played N'Jobu did a great job!
I’m here doing homework to find out if Killmonger will be the new Panther lol
This scene all ways makes my cry
I feel so bad for killmonger man michael b jordan did such good acting glad he got the role.
n’jobu knew that this wasnt going to end well for his son & that no matter what the damage he caused was already done & there wasnt anything he can do to prevent what was to come.
i just noticed the melancholy variation of the ancestral plane theme
Probably one of the most saddest scenes in MCU. Makes me tear up everytime
think all this pain, loss and hate kill monger had endured because of stupid metal
more than that it was feeling as if he was never wanted by his uncle and his family
Just finished watching BP 2, and I understand why Killmonger was the one who talked to Shuri during the ritual. Thankfully, Shuri came to her senses in the end.
IMO Killmonger was right, why should she let him live after he drowned her mother, her dad, brother and now mum are gone and it would’ve been right to kill Namor
@@official_t5425 because 2 wrongs never make a right
@@spencer_fife_and_drum_john9152 but two left's will take you down a different path then the first left😤
@@damienhigh7912 At the cost of your humanity.
Also unfortunately I think the dad would’nt protect Ironheart
Its 1 thing that T'Chaka killed his brother. But leaving the body behind and abandoning his nephew? Foul.
They shouldn’t have left the kid behind
Scene should have been longer
I love the starting tune of this scene
Doomed to never walk in the forest of their ancestors. Lost...
This scene is so powerful, Killmonger was by far the best character in BP 1
He never left that apartment...
Well adult Erick Kill-monger. Is wearing the same clothes are used to wear when you was a kid back in the 90s
Killmonger is a real one
felt 🖤
Human Torch/Killmonger rules
I thought he was going to meet the ancestors and they were going to say unworthy he was of the position but instead I got a sad talk between father and son. I used to hate this scene when I first saw it because I thought they were making the villain too sympathetic compared to the hero. However overtime I’ve grown to appreciate it more after learning that was always the intention. But seriously it was hard to hate Kilmonger and it didn’t help that I loved Michael B Jordan because his performance as Creed!
Wakanda Forever should have brought Killmonger back
They literally did
I've always loved the transition from older killmonger to young killmonger when his father talks to him. There's a tone a father takes that in a way snaps you back to attentiveness no matter the age . Not out of fear but respect
BLACK PANTHER MOVIE 2018
KILMONGER AND N JOBU RIP
PANTHER FAMILY SON FATHERS
Wish Killmonger comes back and redeems himself I mean his motives were clear he wanted to continue to help poor nations but the way his father started it was very bad and fate had to turn on him I'd say he's more of a tragic antagonist rather than a pure villain
This scene is why the film was nominated for Best Picture.
This scene was literally heartbreaking
His mother was sentenced to life in prison by the police
is this kilminger seeing the afterlife im here from New Rockstars new video
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If you want to intensify this scene even more. Play today by Jefferson airplane while watching this .
Everytime i see this scene i get emotional
Im here cause i just found out N'jobu is randall pearson from this is us 😮😮😮
He is also Gordon Walker from Supernatural
WHO DOES THAT 2 A KID LEAVING BEHIND AFTER KILLING HIS FATHER
I feel for N’Jobu. Seeing what his son had become without his father is rough
This whole scene is so heartbreaking and shows how deep the damage went to both Eric (Killmonger) and his father N'Jobu.
i love you Daddy🪐🍻🌬️🍯💵😘😘😘😘😭😭😭😭😭🌕🪐
Very powerfull and heartbreaking father son scene💔
He won’t be welcomed because he’s an Akata
Think N'Jobu regrets his actions now?
NOPE
@Jing Soo Cho WHAT, HIS FATHER WAS KILLED BY HIS UNCLE FOR HELPING THE BLACK COMMUNITY
@Jing Soo Cho KILLMONGER IS THE HERO OF THIS STORY
@Jing Soo Cho However he was an innocent child that lost his father and the reason why he hates T challa is because he couldnt get revenge on King T chaka so he takes it out on his son.
@@cutiepie6796 yeah you're kinda stupid. The whole parallel between the two is supposed to show that killmonger was wrong for wanting to kill and "rule" tchalla knew it couldn't and shouldn't be like that. You're either trolling or just stupid.
i really like the movie's ost
"I'm not a mistake"
They have to bring back killmonger now dat Chadwick is no longer here with us two great actors on screen they made this movie master piece won’t be same but gota bring back Micheal b Jordan
I'd love a series showing Killmonger training as he grows up.
Team Killmonger.
See Disney! This is how you write a story! No social politics or feminism. Good writing and powerful back stories for not just your mc but you antagonist as well. Make it hard for us to choose whose right and whose wrong. As a grown man this scene brings tears to my eyes cause it’s relatable.
Listening and Doing something about it are two different things, unfortunately
You say there’s no feminism when T’Challa’s whole security were women and his girlfriend was THE ONLY ONE doing what Killmonger/T’challa wanted to do the RIGHT way. Hell the women have been carrying this franchise thus far in the story
No social politics? Killmonger is literally planning to commit a genocide to wipe out white people, like Hitler & the Jews.
Last point: Vulture/Thanos both have solid reasonings to their actions.
This movie is incredible but your wording to give it compliments is so ridiculous