Long ago threads were filed with a triangular file after the helix had been 'set out'. In those days marking tools & a file were the 'proper equipment'!
That's damn cool. I've read about similar methods and seen diagrams 30~40 years ago but seeing your video is much better and very easy to understand. I may even try it .
To all the people saying I would take it to a machinist.. shut up and go watch Martha Stewart bake a cake... This video is for the men that can fix anything with limited tools and have the mindset to get anything done. Bravo sir👍 I can see myself doing this one day to atleast clean up a hard to find large fine thread bolt or barrel. Thank you for the great idea.
This is something definitely to be considered in some circumstances. Made me also understand how a lathe works for threads, which I never thought about. Beforehand, I'm obviously neither a fabricator nor a machinist.
This is the craziest method of metal work I've ever seen. But interesting to see how ordinary parts lik screws and nuts can be used in "mad max style" to create something new. Its really inspiring my brain how a universal tool should be look like to cutting outer threads on tubes. Innovation Level: 10/10👍
People are clueless as ever when they recommend using cutting oil and all that. This was a demonstration on the working principles of the tool, he doesn't need that part he just showed you how it works. It's up to you to improve it based on your needs.
I agree. It's particularly prevalent on YT short clips, don't you find? I see it as attention seeking behaviour. Like that obnoxious kid who always butts in, attempting to outdo the person talking and seize the limelight.
Clever one-off, but did you ever hear the phrase, "Work smarter not harder"? Because, man, I'm not sure which of those that was 😃! If you'd center-punched and drilled the piece you'd threaded, it would have been easier to locate your cutter's rotator shaft. Now you got me thinking of ways to make something like that reusable. Definitely ingenious, though. I have a small hobby lathe (Sieg C6 clone), but you know, that rig you made would be absolutely invaluable on a field site or with something too large to fit the lathe. The hard part would be finding a "driveshaft" and nut of the correct thread pitch.....but one could turn something like that on a smaller lathe, then put this rig onto the larger object that needed threaded. So yeah, it definitely has applications.
I have small trailer whose threads I need to re-work. I will follow the same example. As per advises elsewhere in these thread, am going to drill a hole in the centre to anchor my tool.
Good engineering this makes me remember 52 years ago when I used to work as engineer on old 600 tons cargo vessel ,in thoes days we did not had modern tools like now but 100 % durable tools not like now with one time used tools before you have to trow it away and replace it .
Very innovative idea, Not a bad outcome. But still needed a lathe to machine the shaft to the required diameter. Using some sort of oil or cutting fluid would have made for a much better finish. Good stuff mate
@@Gottenhimfella Std stock is not generally sized for proper thread cutting without a cleanup at least. I was referring to this video and is clearly not a std piece of bar and can see that this piece has clearly been turned in the lathe albeit rough as guts. Still, clearly a very novel way of cutting a thread and a brilliant idea, something I would never have thought of. I have to admit, I watched the video from start to finish in one take because I wanted to see if I could work it out in my head before there was enough info in the video. I was way into the video before I worked out how he was going to do it. Thinking out of the square and the mother of necessity very often comes up with very different ways of getting a job done. But of course, if you can cut a thread in this manner then you could turn the material to size using this same method. Kudos to this man.
@@ScatManAust This is just a demo of a concept, surely. I suppose he could have bought a piece of bar the right size to suit the bearing locknut he already had, in case someone wanted to raise a (somewhat pointless) quibble... which this page is replete with. As for turning barstock before threading it, when it's already the right size (which, except in the case of cold rolled, is usually the case) I'm not sure that makes sense, except in a tool and gauge shop (where they never use "right size" stock anyway). And if it's oversize, even a V tool taken to the right pitch diameter (I presume you use thread wires, given you seem rather proactive) will simply create sharp-topped crests but a correct thread form, and a wipe with a file, followed by a trial fit of the matching female thread, and a few more swipes if necessary, will quickly remedy the OD.
I don't see why you couldn't use the same basic method, using a cutter of a different shape, to cut the shaft down to the required diameter first. Just more sweat and time involved.
the clocks and watches i had when i was young needed to be reset every few days by the pipps on the radio ... they weren't all that accurate ..so you should be good
As someone who was a die Maker for fifty years my hat off to you cause I've always had a lathe boy I just can't see me ever doing that but if there's a Will there's a way
oh my god I always wanted to do this and you helped me bro. You are such a genius 👏 ❤🇮🇷 Wait Wait wait 🤔: I have to say something about this video: bro, to do this, you have to machine the rod to the right size for threading, so you absolutely need a lathe😂😂😂.
I really thought clicking on this video was probably going to be a waste of time. Glad I was wrong. Hopefully I'll be able to try this at some point. If for no other reason, then a neat little project to kill time. 👍🏼
Kind of get the idea but you might try a lubricant of some kind? Stuck on a desert island and with no machine tools this would work well enough being, in principle, a 'thread-copier' so not that outlandish. Keep up the good work!
@ Then I would expect this tool to be a tool you could buy. It would need to be more sophisticated. There has to be an axial adjustment or rotational to pickup the thread start.
Impressive. Imagine what they’ll be able to do when they discover welding masks, welding gloves, shoes, cutting oil, cobalt drills, and tungsten carbide! This one has already discovered the work bench, and vise. 😮
Actually... You now needed: - a lathe to turn a flat face on that workpiece - a welding machine to tack the temporary parts together - a grinder to sharpen the HSS steel - a thread cutting gauge to check the right top angle - an angle grinder to cut everything loose again And if it was made of aluminium or brass? Maybe a die is cheaper, quicker, more versatile and more precise 🤔
Phantastic phantasy indeed! The only disappointment with this video on my part is - where the heck are this time all those hillariously sarcastic comments in cyrillic??? Are the Russian viewers losing their edge, not picking up the challenge?
Ingenious approach to the topic. I still have two questions: • how did you get the round part on size and round without a lathe (more of a rhetorical question. I see the lathe marks 😏)? • what is so wrong with keeping that f@&*ing guard on the grinder???? I don’t get it! Watch your fingers, friend 💖
You got me Well the story starts here we need to have a sized shaft but this shaft has to be sized with a lathe first. You are right about the grinder guard too, I need to be more careful Thanks my friend💐💐
After seeing the video, i just ordered my first lathe. You're the best lathe salesman.
😅👍👍💐💐
Thanks
"Your ingenuity and resourcefulness in getting the job done without the proper tools is truly impressive! Great job on the repair!"
Thank you my friend 💐💐❤️
This îs How you repair the thread on a trailer Axel, And it îs used for 40 years ago 😄
@Vcatalin7 👍
Long ago threads were filed with a triangular file after the helix had been 'set out'.
In those days marking tools & a file were the 'proper equipment'!
By the time you get centered and get the cutter at the correct angle
Wether or not it's practical, you took this idea from impossible to possible, and that's a big step.
Thanks bro 👍💐
As a Machinist with all kinds of cool gadgets and the ability to make jewel like threads...
I giggled at your ingenuity here, Very Cool man!
Thank you my friend 💐👍
I can see ways to improve this but I never would have come up with it on my own. Genius, and adaptable to any thread pitch or diameter. Nicely done!
Thanks 👍💐💐
That job is crying for oil.
😅
Yes, any kind of oil. Cooking oil, new motor oil, used motor oil or some form of grease would also help.
The threads might have been ok if he used oil or maybe a lathe!!
It's a demo of a principle. There are unlimited ways it could be improved, but surely that's beside the point?
Nice try Diddy… 😂
That's damn cool.
I've read about similar methods and seen diagrams 30~40 years ago but seeing your video is much better and very easy to understand.
I may even try it .
💐💐👍👍
Very clever! I don't have that much patience. 👍🍻
Thank you 🙏💐
Pretty ingenious!
Thanks 👍
It got made and works.
I’m impressed, wouldn’t have thought of this. Well done!
💐💐❤️❤️
They say where there’s a will there’s away. Good job. I’ll remember this for the apocalypse
👍💐💐
To all the people saying I would take it to a machinist.. shut up and go watch Martha Stewart bake a cake... This video is for the men that can fix anything with limited tools and have the mindset to get anything done.
Bravo sir👍 I can see myself doing this one day to atleast clean up a hard to find large fine thread bolt or barrel. Thank you for the great idea.
Thank you for the support 👍💐❤️
This is something definitely to be considered in some circumstances. Made me also understand how a lathe works for threads, which I never thought about. Beforehand, I'm obviously neither a fabricator nor a machinist.
👍💐💐
Excellent video, job well done. Thanks for sharing.Cheers
I was going to comment but I'm done....😂😂
💐💐❤️❤️
In a pinch that’s a great idea,smart thinking
Thanks 👍💐
That’s a very cool idea 💡. Thanks for sharing.❤
💐💐❤️❤️
This is the craziest method of metal work I've ever seen. But interesting to see how ordinary parts lik screws and nuts can be used in "mad max style" to create something new. Its really inspiring my brain how a universal tool should be look like to cutting outer threads on tubes.
Innovation Level: 10/10👍
Thank you my friend 💐❤️
Well done ,.. when people have no power ,.. they will appreciate this video .
Thanks 👍
How will they weld without power?
@seabell who says it has to be welded,.. you never built anything without welding ??
Lol
Oh wait solar panels ,..
People are clueless as ever when they recommend using cutting oil and all that.
This was a demonstration on the working principles of the tool, he doesn't need that part he just showed you how it works. It's up to you to improve it based on your needs.
Thanks 👍💐
I agree. It's particularly prevalent on YT short clips, don't you find?
I see it as attention seeking behaviour.
Like that obnoxious kid who always butts in, attempting to outdo the person talking and seize the limelight.
Clever one-off, but did you ever hear the phrase, "Work smarter not harder"? Because, man, I'm not sure which of those that was 😃!
If you'd center-punched and drilled the piece you'd threaded, it would have been easier to locate your cutter's rotator shaft. Now you got me thinking of ways to make something like that reusable. Definitely ingenious, though.
I have a small hobby lathe (Sieg C6 clone), but you know, that rig you made would be absolutely invaluable on a field site or with something too large to fit the lathe. The hard part would be finding a "driveshaft" and nut of the correct thread pitch.....but one could turn something like that on a smaller lathe, then put this rig onto the larger object that needed threaded. So yeah, it definitely has applications.
Thank you my friend
Good idea 👍
💐💐💐🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️
Very clever; one of your best tool builds. We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week, and people really liked it. 😎
Thanks 👍💐
Great idea! That is resourcefulness in action.🌞
Thanks! 🙏💐
Congratulations, your skills show how possible we can adapt ourselves or world around of us with minimum materials to achieve our goals.
😊💐💐
Thanks!
Thank you dear Russell Williams 🙏🙏💐💐
Necessity is the mother of invention.
❤️
it sure is ..
Wow! Great idea!
Thank you! 😊
Thats very good craftsmanship.
❤️
fantastic ideas, thanks for sharing
💐💐❤️❤️
Oil or not. Great job. 🤔👌
😅
this shows that no machine can stop human intelligence, well done
By the way, men create the machines so they are reflection of our intelligence
Thanks bro 👍💐
Giving it a thumbs up because all my years i would have never thought about this. But lord man put some oil on it while cutting 😂
You are absolutely right! 😂 I should have put some oil on it. 👍
Very good stuff. So glad to see this. Thank you 👍
💐💐❤️❤️
Man I love watching your videos I've learned so many more cool tricks and techniques off of your videos then most ppls videos! Thanks!
💐💐❤️❤️
Clever work! You got it done with what you had. 👍🏻🙂
👍❤️
Only a toolmaker could think out of the box to pull off this idea, looks simple, yet brilliant
Thank you dear John 💐
It's actually similar to 'threading engines' of early 18th century before screw cutting lathes with a full lead-screw were 'invented'
@@1crazypj yep totally agree with you, whats old is new again, great tricks of the trade, handy hack for one off jobs
Friggin awesome!
❤️❤️💐💐
Lubricant on the bolt threads will make it easier to turn and cutting oil when cutting the threads will give you a better finish 😊
Thanks for the tip 🙏💐
Love it. But use some oil on the cutter. Any oil is better than none. Used engine oil if nothing else.
Yup why no cutting oil???
Thanks dear Steve 🙏
Mate I am impressed, what a brilliant idea. Many many thanks. Jim from Australia.
Thank you dear Jim 🙏💐
I have small trailer whose threads I need to re-work. I will follow the same example. As per advises elsewhere in these thread, am going to drill a hole in the centre to anchor my tool.
👍❤️
What a clever man ! 👍
💐💐❤️❤️
this make me believe in magic, thats how awesome this is!
❤️
Good engineering this makes me remember 52 years ago when I used to work as engineer on old 600 tons cargo vessel ,in thoes days we did not had modern tools like now but 100 % durable tools not like now with one time used tools before you have to trow it away and replace it .
💐💐❤️❤️
You are just a genius!
Thanks for the wonderful idea and video!
💐💐❤️❤️
Awesome concept...!! I think I'll build one...!!
💐💐
Very innovative idea,
Not a bad outcome.
But still needed a lathe to machine the shaft to the required diameter.
Using some sort of oil or cutting fluid would have made for a much better finish.
Good stuff mate
Thank you 🙏💐
Given that shafting is generally made in standard thread diameters, I don't see why a lathe would be necessary
@@Gottenhimfella Std stock is not generally sized for proper thread cutting without a cleanup at least.
I was referring to this video and is clearly not a std piece of bar and can see that this piece has clearly been turned in the lathe albeit rough as guts.
Still, clearly a very novel way of cutting a thread and a brilliant idea, something I would never have thought of.
I have to admit, I watched the video from start to finish in one take because I wanted to see if I could work it out in my head before there was enough info in the video.
I was way into the video before I worked out how he was going to do it.
Thinking out of the square and the mother of necessity very often comes up with very different ways of getting a job done.
But of course, if you can cut a thread in this manner then you could turn the material to size using this same method.
Kudos to this man.
@@ScatManAust This is just a demo of a concept, surely.
I suppose he could have bought a piece of bar the right size to suit the bearing locknut he already had, in case someone wanted to raise a (somewhat pointless) quibble... which this page is replete with.
As for turning barstock before threading it, when it's already the right size (which, except in the case of cold rolled, is usually the case) I'm not sure that makes sense, except in a tool and gauge shop (where they never use "right size" stock anyway). And if it's oversize, even a V tool taken to the right pitch diameter (I presume you use thread wires, given you seem rather proactive) will simply create sharp-topped crests but a correct thread form, and a wipe with a file, followed by a trial fit of the matching female thread, and a few more swipes if necessary, will quickly remedy the OD.
I don't see why you couldn't use the same basic method, using a cutter of a different shape, to cut the shaft down to the required diameter first. Just more sweat and time involved.
Technically thats a hand lathe
👍❤️
Sorry neighbor but "Technically" it's NOT a Lathe.
Wakodahatchee Chris
great idea.
Thanks 👍
So..tomorow I' ll be busy during my regular job.This time just for me alone, not for my chief.
You are s genius!
Thanks 🙏💐💐
"How to make thread without die and lathe machine"
Step 1: Machine a part to major diameter size with lathe
Yes, exactly 👍
You got me 💐
But this month used for repair shafts in place that are seized before 😉
El concepto es realmente interesante.
Gracias por compartir
Thanks 👍💐❤️
Haha....pretty clever 😊
Thank you 🙏💐
I'm working on my legs, so I'll just cycle to the machine shop and have them cut a thread. Good luck with your pecs!
😅💐💐
This is actually really cool to think about and definitely something that might save my ass in the future
👍💐💐
Genius! I can use this approach for watch and clock work! Thanks so much!
👍💐
the clocks and watches i had when i was young needed to be reset every few days by the pipps on the radio ... they weren't all that accurate ..so you should be good
Nice job really. You've basically built on open Die.
Thank you 🙏
God made a tool just for this job. It’s called a machinist.
❤️
That pretty clever
💐💐
As someone who was a die Maker for fifty years my hat off to you cause I've always had a lathe boy I just can't see me ever doing that but if there's a Will there's a way
👍💐
Bravo!
💐💐❤️❤️
Shop made thread tool, great work😊
💐💐❤️❤️
Very clever well done...
Thank you 👍
Great idea well done ❤
Thank you! 😊
Hey at least he did get it done. Pretty easy to sit in front of your computer and rag on people for actually accomplishing a task.
💐💐
oh my god I always wanted to do this and you helped me bro. You are such a genius 👏 ❤🇮🇷
Wait Wait wait 🤔:
I have to say something about this video: bro, to do this, you have to machine the rod to the right size for threading, so you absolutely need a lathe😂😂😂.
مرسی حمید جان 💐💐
واقعا کارت عالی بود دم شما گرم❤@@innovationtime20
سپاس 🙏 💐
البته من یه ماشین تراش هم دارم که اونم دست سازه ، ویدیوش توی کانال هست 👍
@innovationtime20
دوست عزیز یک سال پیش اون ویدیو رو دیدم ویدیو ساخت دستگاه پرس هم دیدم عالی بود کارت درسته.👏🙏❤️
@Hamid-az 🙏🙏💐💐
Loved watching this!
Thanks 👍💐💐❤️❤️
I really thought clicking on this video was probably going to be a waste of time. Glad I was wrong. Hopefully I'll be able to try this at some point. If for no other reason, then a neat little project to kill time. 👍🏼
Thank you my friend 💐❤️
@innovationtime20 Thank you!! I actually do own a metal lathe but I still want to try this
👍
Brilliant !
❤️
Kind of get the idea but you might try a lubricant of some kind?
Stuck on a desert island and with no machine tools this would work well enough being, in principle, a 'thread-copier' so not that outlandish.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you my friend 💐👍
This is out of the box clever but if there’s no lathe, how is the OD rendered to size?
Exactly
You are right
This method is usually done to repair the shaft in place, the shaft does not need to be resized. 👍
@ Then I would expect this tool to be a tool you could buy. It would need to be more sophisticated. There has to be an axial adjustment or rotational to pickup the thread start.
👍
I learned something today. I never would've thought of that
👍❤️
I think work is difficult and sensitive butt you can complete easily. Shabash good
Thank you dear Muhammad 💐🙏
thats very cool thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching! 💐
Absolutely fantastic. Only a genius would think of that.
Thanks 👍💐
nice idea !
💐👍❤️
MashAllaha ,out class ,out of box, ❤
Thanks 👍😊💐💐
Impressive. Imagine what they’ll be able to do when they discover welding masks, welding gloves, shoes, cutting oil, cobalt drills, and tungsten carbide! This one has already discovered the work bench, and vise. 😮
Thank you 🙏💐
brilliant
❤️
Wow that’s impressive!
💐
The idea is very nice! And well done for good gentrification!
Thank you 🙏
I’ll pay a machinist.
Good idea 😅
He essentially built a hand operated lathe.
Great job man
Thanks 👍💐
That was cool.
❤️
Love the resourcefulness
👍💐
No lathe....... but who turned that end to start with?
You are right but This method is used to repair shafts in place, the size is okey
Man you top notch I've seen alot of nice work this is up there awesome job
Thank you dear James 💐
That is cool as frick
💐
absolute genious, I'b be interested to see something similar for internal threads, I need to make a 2 1/4" BY 8tpi thread
The internal thread is completely different, I will think about it 😉
Thank you for your comment 💐
Would be relatively simple as long as close tolerances were not needed. Otherwise, have a friend with a lathe do it.
Actually... You now needed:
- a lathe to turn a flat face on that workpiece
- a welding machine to tack the temporary parts together
- a grinder to sharpen the HSS steel
- a thread cutting gauge to check the right top angle
- an angle grinder to cut everything loose again
And if it was made of aluminium or brass?
Maybe a die is cheaper, quicker, more versatile and more precise 🤔
Good point 🤔
💐💐
If your lather has no thread cutting ability (at the required pitch) you could use this technique.
Great idea. Impressive
Thank you 🙏💐
Brilliant.
💐💐
Really? Nice set of grooves.😮
👍❤️
Phantastic phantasy indeed! The only disappointment with this video on my part is - where the heck are this time all those hillariously sarcastic comments in cyrillic??? Are the Russian viewers losing their edge, not picking up the challenge?
Nice video, thank you :)
💐💐
great idea sir very impressive
Thanks bro 👍💐
Ingenious approach to the topic.
I still have two questions:
• how did you get the round part on size and round without a lathe (more of a rhetorical question. I see the lathe marks 😏)?
• what is so wrong with keeping that f@&*ing guard on the grinder???? I don’t get it!
Watch your fingers, friend 💖
You got me
Well the story starts here we need to have a sized shaft but this shaft has to be sized with a lathe first.
You are right about the grinder guard too, I need to be more careful
Thanks my friend💐💐
Ingenious 👍
💐💐❤️❤️
Very intetesting indeed.
👍💐
A thread SHAPER! If it had more rigidity and weigh would be more effective, amazing idea.
Thanks 👍💐
Not bad 👍
💐💐