@@randomcharacter6501 Russell Crowe's performance was still believable as a gladiator seeking vengeance for his family. Denzel's just playing a gangster from the hood
@@imanoldurango8213 of course the original wasn't historically accurate, which is why the ending works: democracy was restored and people were free, but nope, let's yank that out, it wasn't historically accurate after all, and undermine much of the achievement of the last protagonist, and tell almost the same story again. Honestly, the movie will probably be just fine, even if the CGI & special effects seem worse than the first one's (or just way overused). The movie is just unlikely to enhance the original, while being tied down by its legacy.
Achtually... (adjusts glasses) Geta and Caracalla were like that. They were wicked and degenerate, even according to roman nobility standards. Seems like that's the only accurate thing this guy got, lol
There were women gladiators in the original Gladiator. Remember the chariot part? Those were women with bows and arrows, then one of them got cut in half by the chariot.
Tbh, in Gladiator 1 it was kind of fitting as these chariots were supposed to represent the barbarians and the Romans considered every culture with fighting women as barbarians.
And there are written references and even a figurine of female gladiators, even mentioning their name. But yeah, it's unclear if they were 'real' fighters or more like a novelty something to keep the spectacle new and fresh.
Could you imagine if every time a Scottish actor, like the late Sean Connery was in a film, the people who create trailers for his movies would have played the bagpipes in the background to emphasize his Scottish heritage!? Could you imagine Sean Connery's James Bond films, all having trailers where the Bond theme is played by bagpipes? If that sounds awful, this is precisely how we feel whenever Hollywood insists on putting rap music whenever a Black cast member is on screen. Its pandering and its patronizing.
Could have had some composer with experience and create an epic score, with sections they could use for the trailer to get you hooked. Guess producers still think the "urban demographic" isn't into classical.
This. All of my this. This is how it feels like as a mulatto watching media with black people with the "mandatory hiphop music in the background" trope. Its fuckn ridiculous.
There was a female archer in the 2000 Gladiator, she was cut in half by the chariot. That being said the plot basically is like the original....why do we need this?
Monies. Lotsa monies. It's the same with pretty much any sequel that isn't planned from the start. Gladiator (2000) was the story of Maximus. It wasn't really a historical movie in any way other than incidentally that happened to be the backdrop they chose. While there was an Emperor Commodus, and while he did occasionally dabble in arena sword fighting, he was never killed by a gladiator who used to be a Roman general. So it's a period fictional drama, nothing more. It had a start, a middle, and a satisfying--if historically inaccurate--conclusion. But then it became a smash hit and people got lots of money so... yeah, time to tell the "rest" of the fictional story of what happens to Lucius, who was really just a plot device to reveal the plot to Commodus. There is no need to tell "the rest of the story" because there was no rest of the story until it became profitable to write it.
The Emperor is Caracalla, he has his brother Geta murdered (at least in real life). His decision to allow foreign tribes/peoples into the Roman Army was a domino leading to the collapse of the Roman Empire, and the Crisis of the 3rd Century. It shockingly tracks historically, as he likely would have been Emperor when Lucian reached his 30s.
allowing conquered peoples into the army was far from the reason the empire collapsed. part of it maybe but you make it seem like thats the only reason lol
This trailer was the epitome of "you had me in the first half". I was liking it. Then training day denzel started happening...then the music started. I'm done with this generations "entertainment".
Seriously, it gets on my nerves that TH-camrs did better versions of the trailer which feel more like they treat the first with respect both for the movie and Hans Zimmer's amazing score.
Gladiatrixes were a thing in imperial Rome, but they were regarded the same way, we do it with professional woman football/soccer teams in comparrison to male teams for example. They never fought against male gladiators, because the Romans knew, that the results were similar like the sport matches of women against man today. For that reason they never were as popular as their male counterparts. Same as today.
Yeah it's just another Force Awakens, that's basically a genre on itself at this point. Reboots that say they are sequels, but they are just a rethread of the original but worse.
The thing Baggage Claim said at the end there - "People should know when to just turn away from something" - is so close to a quote from the original Gladiator. Quintus: "People should know when they're conquered." Maximus: "Would you, Quintus? ...would I?"
I'm pretty sure they had women gladiators as a gimmick back in those days, cause they had all kinds of crazy stuff in those arena fights. I don't think it was common, but it was a possibility. Certainly more plausible than the guy riding on the rhino lol
Denzel plays Marcus Macrinus. Marcinus was the first Roman Emperor that rose outside of the Senatorial oligarchy class. He was a Berber from what is considered today as Algeria. He was the Praetorian prefect under the two emperors Geta and Caracalla. basically he was a finance guy for the military and he probably owned slaves and even gladiators. Basically Caracalla grew wary of his rising power and ordered his assassination but Macrinus got to him first and proclaimed himself Emperor there after. However his reign only lasted a year and he to was captured by enemies and murdered.
@@mew10521 Yeah you can check it out, plenty of history books about it or online. However this is Hollywood. I wouldn't watch movies to get real accurate historical information. Movies are just artistic expression. Even the first Gladiator movie wasn't historically accurate.
Denzel used to be my favourite actor. But not in a role like this. Its like someone told him “no one will care you have an American accent in ancient Rome”
Well, techically to be accurate they should speak Latin. The next closest thing is Italian as it accepted as the language with the closest accent to Latin. Here the speak British English.
They say he's portraying Macrinus, Roman Emperor from 217-218 Though I'm not sure why he's portrayed this way. He was a Praetorian Prefect of Emperor Caracalla
@@iDeathMaximuMII Just watch 95% of movies made in the last 5 years. And you should TOTALLY understand why he his portrayed this way THEY DON'T CARE. Shut your brain, consume content, eat your chips, applaud like a seal, rinse and repeat. Don't forget to pay.
It's become so transparent to me that Hollywood sits there flicking through their back catalog musing on what thing of the past they can make "content" from, desperate to avoid doing something from a clean slate. Like Furiosa, where no-one on the planet is asking for these stories to be continued, but the creators are obsessed with anything that ever captured audiences attention before becoming a franchise.
I figured out the gimmick. Look at the movies we get sequels to, who were their primary audience? White hetero-men. Clearly these movies aren't made for quality but an attempt to demoralize us, it's a modern take on book burning. IP burnings. Turn them into DEIESG minstrel shows, cry bigotry when it flops, rinse and repeat.
George Miller wrote and gave Charlize Theron a script for "Furiosa" to give her the background of her character during "Fury Road". I do agree that no one really was clamoring for a Furiosa movie nearly a decade later. Even if I like that movie, it really should have been made no more than three years after Fury Road while that movie was fresher in people's minds.
Denzel always plays Denzel. He always does it well but sometimes you have to wonder why he is in the role other than the producers just wanted a Denzel.
Pedro Pascal is gonna be the sidekick of some strong female character in Gladiator 2 like what happened to him as Din Djarin being sidekick of Bo Katan in The Mandalorian Final Season.
Other than the hip hop music I was kinda on board with the trailer until they put in that keyjangling/memberberry Maximus' armor and weapons shot. That kinda dropped the other shoe that it's not a sequel, it's another one of THOSE movies. I thought we were past that, and it's so disrespectful to do it with a masterpiece like Gladiator.
I know it seems odd to have naval battles in the Colosseum, but that's historically accurate. It was one of the marvels of that era. I was shocked when I read about that in the history books. And gladiatrixes did exist, but they were a very minor thing... considered a novelty, and NEVER put up against male gladiators.
I've been there, and when you go there, see it in person. HOLY COW is it amazing. Since the floor is gone, it's amazing how high the walls were, how much is underneath the stage, and how big it is. Italy still to this day is the coolest place I've visited, twice.
@@judyhopps9380 Not according to the history books. Bloodsports were very common back then, especially in the Roman empire. The Colosseum was no exception.
@@judyhopps9380 HMMM... Trying to remember what I learned from that trip to the Colosseum in the 90s. I don't know if it was staged per se, but wasn't always as deadly, since near the end they were running out of prisoners, so they couldn't keep sacrificing them.
the moment the protagonist starts to speak in the trailer... I mean this is THE GUY right? The charismatic GUY who we should cheer for the whole movie... With that delivery a worker in Starbucks would get told off for low energy. fml, who casts these people?
Guy's a plank of wood. We have a serious leading man problem lately, I can't tell you off the top of my head any young charismatic actors I look forward to watching. That's probably why Timothe Charlamet, Tom Holland and Zendaya are in everything now.
I mean, it’s not like Paul Mescal is a bad actor. Watched him in Normal People, The Lost Daughter, and Aftersun. But for a role like that, I just can’t buy him leading an army or fighting as a Gladiator. Maybe that’s the point, but usually the best castings are the ones, where the actor has established that they can handle action.
@@osmanyousif7849 exactly, not saying he is a bad actor, just not right for this part. It's the eyes, you need to know he has seen shit, that is why other men would follow. You could get that from the first time seeing Russel Crowe in Gladiators trailer that he was the mans man for example
Fans reedited the trailer with "Now we are free" cover, now it looks so much better...Let's hope the movie is not composed by the same person as the trailer.
Tbf, the music is most likely just chosen for the trailer. Though if the trailer is worth anything, it should give a decent impression of how the actual movie is, so maybe the soundtrack is really like this.
Ridley Scott also genuinely believes in the Ancient Aliens theory (yes, really - that's not just the plot of Prometheus. It's something he actually believes in), so yeaahhhh...
@@osmanyousif7849 Of course Scott wasn't paid to say that. He's always spoken his mind and besides, who the frik would pay him to say that he believes that mankind was created by aliens?!
Well no one does know how life started so good to keep an open mind generally. I mean billions think God did it. Fair enough, can't prove it either way.
@@basementsnaxx We have plenty of evidence to suggest how life began on Earth. There is zero evidence to suggest that God created life on Earth, nor that aliens created life on Earth. It's not about keeping an open mind, it's about following the evidence. I mean, I can't prove that vampires or pixies don't exist, but that doesn't mean that it's being "open minded" to believe in the existence of vampires or pixies. The onus of proof falls upon those whom believe in such things. Having said that, it's understandable that so many people believe in a god, given that so many people are indoctrinated to believe in such a being at a young age, but buying into the whole Ancient Aliens nonsense is boneheaded nonsense and inherently rooted in r@cism ("There's no way that those primitive people of colour could have built the pyramids. It must have been superior beings from outta space!").
50 cent will be on a podium signing for the crowd. "Go, shawty, it's your birthday We gon' party like it's your birthday We gon' sip Bacardí like it's your birthday And you know we don't give a fuck it's not your birthday" Pom Pom Poum, Pom Pom Poum.
9:20 Olive oil. An essential item in ancient Rome with many different uses. In addition to being an integral part of the diet, olive oil was used to make perfume, treat maladies, conduct religious rituals and provide lighting inside houses and temples.
One piece that’s being ignored from Ridley Scott’s involvement: the studio may have told him “We own the rights. We can make this sequel with or without you,” like they did the Wachowskis with Matrix 4
Memo to Drinker: *Olive* oil was a MASSIVELY important staple in the Roman world. Portable calories that didn't turn too fast. Also used for bathing, lamps and a bunch of other stuff. Oil merchant would be a BFD back then.
The recommendation of Pedro Pascals character sounds like a Chuckle Brothers quote: Barry: He’s a very good general Paul: A very very good general Barry: a very very very good general 😂
Nothing makes a trailer sound more juvenile, and destroys its potential to be epic, than including rap music in it. Forget the fact that the music doesn't fit the time period, rap just exudes a level of stupidity and lack of sophistication that would ruin even the most expertly crafted trailer. It would be like going to a high class restaurant, and insisting that the entree, costing several hundred dollars, be served with a side of Chicken McNuggets.
I would like to add the original ended with the fact Maximus won the fight and before he collapsed #1 Said to free all the slaves and #2 set it for Rome to be a Republic again. So are they just going to ignore those things.
Which didn't happen in real life because after Comodo there was the "Year of the Five Emperors" which ended when Caracalla and his brother Geta were appointed as emperors until they were... ahem, taken out of the picture, Geta by his own brother and Caracalla by Macrinus. Macrinus became emperor until he was minecrafted too and then others became emperors after him... until the very end of the Roman Empire as we know it. The Roman Republic ended in 27 BC and the Roman Empire started. Gladiator takes place roughly in 180 AC. Even if Maximus wanted it to be a republic again, History tells us another story.
@@nalublackwater9729 Considering the original movie is based on fiction your reply does not answer the question to which I am asking. You are just adding what the real history is suppose to be which since the first movie is based on fiction correcting the first to make it like real history is destroying the story of the first movie. If that is the case then why call it Gladiator 2. Why not then just make a new movie with new title.
He doesn't say free all the slaves, he says "Quintus free my men. Senator Graccus is to be reinstated there was a dream that was Rome it shall be realised " he then promptly dies
@@michaelwilburn5784as you say it's fiction so he can say whatever he wants happened between the end of the last film and the start of this film. It seems more realistic though that the word of one dying man who just killed the emperor working with one ageing senator and the sister of the now dead emptror didn't result in rhe formation of a stable Republic. Rather than he dies and everyone with power in the empire does exactly as he asks.
The character Denzel Washington plays, Macrinus, was an actual person in history. He was a well educated lawyer/politician who after a prophesy that he'd kill the Emperor, he freaked out and did just that. Then became Emperor.
There were female gladiators (at least one archer I remember without looking) in the chariot fight in the first Gladiator. Historically speaking it might not track but it does with the other movie.
In the same way that Shad is convinced that all of Europe is 13th century England, Hollywood is convinced that all of North Africa is Nubia and Ethiopia, and all of Ethiopia is basically the bronx.
It's our turn to have our culture used and distortet by people who have none No. Naumachie were only possible for the FIRST time they used it, for the opening, it required 4 years to drain a lake for them to have water in it. After that, all the passages carved under it to move gladiators and beasts made it impossible to flood it again. Plus the arena wasn't empty like that, they literally made forests other landskapes to mimic all the places of the Roman Empire (like in theater, the gladiators were fighting/hunting on a set. they also showed elephants writing on the sand...but what payed professionals know about the history they're stealing?!)
I have no idea of how Scott is gonna pervert, twist or trample History books, but here's what happened back then according to the records: Macrinus was born in North Africa, in the city of Cesarea, in what now we know as Argel. He was the son of local nobility of Berber origins (hence he didn't look like Denzel, not even remotely), though they weren't exactly wealthy. He received an education that allowed him to become a lawyer (and a very skilled one, it seems). When he was young the local Praetorian Prefect named him what we would call today "law consultant" (btw, the praetorian prefectures were the highest level administrative divisions in those years, so that post wasn't too shabby). After said praetorian was... uh... taken out of the picture, Macrinus kept working as a Tax Attorney, until Caracalla and Geta were named emperors and Caracalla named him Praetorian Prefect. Years went by and Macrinus is said to have been the instigator of Caracalla's demise, who in turn had carried out the "minecrafting" of his brother Geta, years prior. So there you have, Macrinus was a bureaucrat, a lawyer and a tax attorney before becoming a "governor" of shorts with military power.
@@jbiz979 The moment you include historical figures you are making a historical movie, not a work of fiction. But what would an american know about it, right? Now I want a biopict of Rodney King played by Ryan Gosling, please. Or Rosa Parks played by Nicole Kidman with her natural redhead hair. Also change Rodney's work from taxi driver to drvg dealer because it's cooler, and Rosa's original job for cabaret singer and instead of being happily married to Raymond I want her having an affair with one of those kkk nutjobs, because that's cooler too. Don't like it? Though luck. The rest of the world is very tired of your american shiet and we should start making spoofs of your own brief and fragmented history, as you deserve.
I think the "oil" you refer to is derived from olives, and would primarily be used for preparing food. Olive oil has been a *huge* component of Mediterranean diets for a very long time.
Marcus Opellius Macrinus played by Denzel Washington is another race swapped character that you can add to Hollywood's race swapped characters list. Marcus was born in Caesarea (Cherchell now in North Africa Algeria) which means he is from the Amazigh of the north which means he is white or brown (tan) like many of his people.
To be fair on Macrinus, he's really irrelevant in Roman history(appears, kills an incompetent emperor, becomes an even less competent general, gets crushed by Elagabalus, then disappears), and I've met people of Berber descent who looked like this. But yeah the melanin went too down for him
Dude, he was a Berber. Berbers were black. For as much as the left is hyper focused on race, you guys are starting to do the same thing in reverse. You're obsessing over melanin content. Think about that for a second. And if we're being honest, pretty much every actor in the original film was "race swapped" compared to what ancient Romans actually looked like.
@@joeberger3441 I am Berber. I live in Algeria. There is Berbers of the North, most are White or brown (Tan) and there is the Atlas region Berbers and the Sahara Berbers (Touareg) and they are the ones who you can call a Black Berbers, so stop gaslighting.
@@royfr8136 so yea, let's address that. Denzel is playing a historical figure known as Macrinus, an Algerian slave owner/arms dealer who was of Berber descent and eventually became emperor after an uprising that killed Caracella. Berbers are considered to have a pretty dark complexion compared to the rest of North Africa. We don't know for sure how dark Macrinus was, but I'm not about to start fussing over melanin content. Are you? While we're at it, let's discuss just how closely Richard Harris and Russel Crowe resembled Mediterranean people. Pretty sure they weren't Italians or Spaniards, or anyone linked to ancient Roman ethnicities. See how ridiculous this becomes? Nobody had a problem with it because they nailed the roles. If you want to make the argument that Denzel is too dark for the role, fine..play that game. I personally just care about good writing and good acting.
@@royfr8136 also, to be clear, I have a lot of issues with DEI and a lot of other woke ideas that have been prevalent the last 10 years in film and media. But not everything is woke, and sometimes the anti woke brigade becomes a witch hunt. When you find yourself obsessing over race just as much as the left does, to the point where you don't even realize how much the original Gladiator got things wrong, then it's time to reevaluate your perspective. Thank God social media wasn't around when the first Gladiator came out.
@@joeberger3441 Thanks for clarifying - I hope that he being a slave owner is made clear in the movie and maybe a slave owner of whites- as you say, it's historically accurate that black people and Arabs were a huge part of that industry - I think there is a line but that line seems only in one direction - I mean Queen Anne Boleyn one of Henry VIIIs wives was recently cast as a full black African woman - But you would not change a historical figure such as Nelson Mandela - played by Hugh Grant now, would you? Hollywood is pushing an agenda for sure - and strong male led films, Tv shows and even TV commercials have all but disappeared.
@@royfr8136 I totally get that and agree it's gotten out of hand..I just don't think Denzel playing a Berber is a huge deal. He's probably closer genetically to a real Berber than Richard Harris was to ancient Italians. From a historical perspective, neither Gladiator 1 nor 2 are accurate at all
The difference is that with Top Gun there was a set of characters for which a new story could be happening. Gladiator, not really. Hero - dead. Villain - dead. Revenge - accomplished. There are probably all kinds of stories to tell about ancient Rome, but the gladiator thing was done.
Agreed, tbh I'm not dismissing the movie off the bat, it has a horrible trailer, but it might still surprise. That said I think that's a very small chance, Gladiator REALLY didn't need a sequel.
The Emperor in the film is Caracalla. And the other is his brother. The oil they're referring to is animal oil for lamps and torches, not petrol. The film is still likely going to be garbage.
There was a black female archer with gold armor played by stuntwoman Jane Omorogbe in the original movie. She dies like the woman fighter in this movie, no different.
"I don't care what they tell you in school, gladiators loved US rap"
In fact , the Romans invented the whole genre centuries before the US
Dude it’s a movie! Just say you hate rap, cus basically no background music or song used in the trailer would be played then either!
@@winchesterkidI also like to leave stupid comments when I'm bored
@winchesterkid Ya bros there was totally rap music in ancient Rome yo!!!! Did your grandma tell you the same thing. 😂
@@winchesterkid I'm offended they didn't put mariachi band music in the trailer to transport me to ancient Roman times
‘What we do in life, echoes in the next movie’
Except without Lisa Gerard and Hans Zimmer soundtrack so its just echoing with whatever zoomer rubbish they found for it
😂😂😂👍🏿
Love it 😅
Is destroyed in the next movie
Denzel isn't even trying. He's just being himself in this.
@@vs1146 Denzel Washington playing Denzel Washington being awfully Denzel Washington about everything
Because Russle Crow put on an absolute masterclass in not playing yourself in the original
You only saw him for like five seconds.
I had the same thought. Groan....
@@randomcharacter6501 Russell Crowe's performance was still believable as a gladiator seeking vengeance for his family. Denzel's just playing a gangster from the hood
Nero died before the colosseum was built. In fact it was built over a spot where Nero had previously built a private pleasure palace.
In Hollyweird, their motto is: "Don't know much about History..."
True, and also Hollywood... Don't know much biology. Don't know much about a science book.
@@Otokichi786the original isn’t historically accurate either 😂 idk why people all of a sudden care about accuracy now
@@imanoldurango8213 if you start thinking, you might come up with a reason by yourself.
@@imanoldurango8213 of course the original wasn't historically accurate, which is why the ending works: democracy was restored and people were free, but nope, let's yank that out, it wasn't historically accurate after all, and undermine much of the achievement of the last protagonist, and tell almost the same story again.
Honestly, the movie will probably be just fine, even if the CGI & special effects seem worse than the first one's (or just way overused). The movie is just unlikely to enhance the original, while being tied down by its legacy.
Denzel: My Gladiata
FINALLY SOMEONE MADE A TRAINING DAY REFERENCE!!
Shoulda been “mah gladiatuh”
Mah Nero
Maximus ain't got sh*t on me
Maxibet!
Somehow, Commodus has returned.
🤣
Achtually... (adjusts glasses) Geta and Caracalla were like that. They were wicked and degenerate, even according to roman nobility standards.
Seems like that's the only accurate thing this guy got, lol
Only he's even more effeminate.
Good one! :D
@@nalublackwater9729 You think those two were degenerate? You should check Elegabalus.
There were women gladiators in the original Gladiator. Remember the chariot part? Those were women with bows and arrows, then one of them got cut in half by the chariot.
probably captured Dahomey warriors, THIS is different.
(if you even get to see this)
Couldn’t have them cut in half these days, that’s misogyny
Tbh, in Gladiator 1 it was kind of fitting as these chariots were supposed to represent the barbarians and the Romans considered every culture with fighting women as barbarians.
She got absolutely wrecked in that bit, it was brutal
And there are written references and even a figurine of female gladiators, even mentioning their name. But yeah, it's unclear if they were 'real' fighters or more like a novelty something to keep the spectacle new and fresh.
Ridley Scott should really go into retirement.
Yep, his best days are behind him.
He's just cashing checks right now.
His last good movie was the martian almost 10 years ago. Now he's back to ruin gladiator. Just retire already
No, one more alien movie.
His decline has been sad to watch.
Could you imagine if every time a Scottish actor, like the late Sean Connery was in a film, the people who create trailers for his movies would have played the bagpipes in the background to emphasize his Scottish heritage!? Could you imagine Sean Connery's James Bond films, all having trailers where the Bond theme is played by bagpipes? If that sounds awful, this is precisely how we feel whenever Hollywood insists on putting rap music whenever a Black cast member is on screen. Its pandering and its patronizing.
Could have had some composer with experience and create an epic score, with sections they could use for the trailer to get you hooked.
Guess producers still think the "urban demographic" isn't into classical.
Great point, I agree!
*Goldeneye theme in bagpipes intensifies*
This. All of my this. This is how it feels like as a mulatto watching media with black people with the "mandatory hiphop music in the background" trope. Its fuckn ridiculous.
wow, really well put.
going to use this as an example when friends/family ask me to try to explain modern woke trash
to me the "Trailer Starts Now!" is the most offensive part, just how dumb do you think I am Paramount?
"Fade in ..." 😂
That has become an annoying trend with trailers. Just start the trailer at the start.
Trailers are made for tik tok these days, they assume you're a teenager with adhd and have to pick your attention in the first 3 seconds lol
It's made for the 5 second TH-cam ads
Judging by most people on the internet...very!
...& they're probably right.
I love the part where he say's "Are you not entertained by my choice of music!?"
Powah!
The drinkers lead in question about Gladiator reminds me of that AIRPLANE scene when the pilot says, “ you ever watch movies about gladiators?”
"You ever see a grown man naked?"
"You ever been in a Turkish prison?"
And then started my movie problem. Throws past face.
Who in Hollywood even Greenlit a sequel in the first place; there's no need. 💯🎉
That is/should be the motto of this channel.
Well if a competent director made it, might be ok, but when was the last time Ridley made a good movie? Oh wait... not since Gladiator.
Creative bankruptcy
Neither was Top Gun Maverick. I'm willing to actually watch
@@rng81Exactly
There was a female archer in the 2000 Gladiator, she was cut in half by the chariot. That being said the plot basically is like the original....why do we need this?
To pay our glorious overlords, of course!
Monies. Lotsa monies.
It's the same with pretty much any sequel that isn't planned from the start. Gladiator (2000) was the story of Maximus. It wasn't really a historical movie in any way other than incidentally that happened to be the backdrop they chose. While there was an Emperor Commodus, and while he did occasionally dabble in arena sword fighting, he was never killed by a gladiator who used to be a Roman general. So it's a period fictional drama, nothing more. It had a start, a middle, and a satisfying--if historically inaccurate--conclusion.
But then it became a smash hit and people got lots of money so... yeah, time to tell the "rest" of the fictional story of what happens to Lucius, who was really just a plot device to reveal the plot to Commodus. There is no need to tell "the rest of the story" because there was no rest of the story until it became profitable to write it.
I need to rewatch the original.
In 2000, there wasn't a box to be checked and so people were willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. This is not the case now.
I want a trailer about her other half
The Emperor is Caracalla, he has his brother Geta murdered (at least in real life). His decision to allow foreign tribes/peoples into the Roman Army was a domino leading to the collapse of the Roman Empire, and the Crisis of the 3rd Century. It shockingly tracks historically, as he likely would have been Emperor when Lucian reached his 30s.
Fair dues, Rome needed the manpower.
allowing conquered peoples into the army was far from the reason the empire collapsed. part of it maybe but you make it seem like thats the only reason lol
@@Invicta707 "A domino" = THE ONLY REASON... retake Reading Comprehension.
@@andrewbaker3855 remember the part where i said you make it seem like that was the only reason? yeah reading comp i guess
@@Invicta707 The direct object of your sentence is "the only reason". "Seem" -> seemed what -> the only reason. Grammar/reading comprehension.
The song is put in for lyrics.
"What's a mob to a king?
What's a king to a god?
What's a god to a non-believer"
Stop man if any of these gaboons could comprehend this they'd be upset...
Tripe
Hollywood see a black person "Lets put a Rap in here!"
'Rap sooong, raaaap sooong...'
And make it lame and g*
"you know, i am something of a rapper myself"
That just proof that the real racist is Hollywood.
Hollywood sees an ancient civilization - "Let's just assume the demographics are something like Los Angeles."
This trailer was the epitome of "you had me in the first half". I was liking it. Then training day denzel started happening...then the music started. I'm done with this generations "entertainment".
Basically showed us the entire movie. Don’t need to bother going to the cinema now. What a shame.
@@joba4848 I haven't even watched the trailer in its entirety and yet I feel like I could tell you the entire plot...
Seriously, it gets on my nerves that TH-camrs did better versions of the trailer which feel more like they treat the first with respect both for the movie and Hans Zimmer's amazing score.
Blame the people who made this not the generation,
KING KING AIN GOT SHIT ON ME : Gladiotor 2
“Russel Crow ain’t got nothing on me!”- Denzel - Gladiator 2 _ Standing on a chariot in a poor part of a Rome.
I mean, he kind of said something similar in another Ridley Scott, movie, American Gangster.
Gladiatrixes were a thing in imperial Rome, but they were regarded the same way, we do it with professional woman football/soccer teams in comparrison to male teams for example.
They never fought against male gladiators, because the Romans knew, that the results were similar like the sport matches of women against man today.
For that reason they never were as popular as their male counterparts. Same as today.
Exactly and there were female gladiators in the first film if anyone remembers
Maybe they had lingerie gladiator league?
@@richtesmost Definitely
@@richtes In Gladiator Begins you can have fun with these ;)
@@LtCommanderTato I'm waiting for "My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius... Father to a misgendered son. Husband to a murdered husband"
3 things that destroyed my hopes for a decent sequel after watching the trailer. 1. the music 2. Denzel acting like... Denzel... 3. the CGI animals
100%
I was about to say the same thing 💯
Huge Denzel fan but come on. It seems like his character is forced into this movie just like the female Gladiators, Gladiatrix if you will.
Looked good to me.
I just watched this low budget movie Latency, and while the movie was meh, you got to appreciate the CGI though. Pretty impressive!
They're basically retelling the story from the first Gladiator just with different aspects.
Sounds like the force awakens.
Exactly
Gotta pander to nostalgia than tell something new
Yeah it's just another Force Awakens, that's basically a genre on itself at this point. Reboots that say they are sequels, but they are just a rethread of the original but worse.
@@Jasper_SilvaYEP
Ridley Scott has entirely lost his marbles.
To be sure it was a tight rope walk all the way man
I think Denzel plays Bigcus Dickus.
He has a wife you know...
@@owen1079What's her name?
@@user-zq6sz2cr6g Incontinentia...
BUTTOCKS 😂😂😂
@@tavinverri SILENCE! Biggus will have you fighting wabid wions by the end of the week!
I enjoy the first gladiator movie. A sequel wasn't needed.
Soooo true
The main character is dead...
It had a beginning, middle and end. The story has been told, nothing else needs to be said. Hollywood never fucking learns.
But the studio needed it
Yet here we are, are you gonna cry about it?
They made Spartacus who needs this movie
We were all slaves.
I'm rewatching Spartacus right now. I'm on Gods of the Arena. Hollywood could never get close to this stuff again
I am... Spartacus!
@@jessejames8900RIP Andy Whitfield
The thing Baggage Claim said at the end there - "People should know when to just turn away from something" - is so close to a quote from the original Gladiator.
Quintus: "People should know when they're conquered."
Maximus: "Would you, Quintus? ...would I?"
this is basically a new Equalizer, now he can time travel
There were women gladiators in the first movie, one was cut in half by the chariot
She wasn't a gladiator was she? I thought she was part of the Roman army in the battle reenactment fight
Yep. It was probably the most brutal death in the whole movie.
@@secondghost💯💯
I'm pretty sure they had women gladiators as a gimmick back in those days, cause they had all kinds of crazy stuff in those arena fights. I don't think it was common, but it was a possibility. Certainly more plausible than the guy riding on the rhino lol
@@GIBBO4182 She was fighting in the Colosseum against Gladiators, why would you assume she's a Roman Soldier?
Denzel plays Marcus Macrinus. Marcinus was the first Roman Emperor that rose outside of the Senatorial oligarchy class. He was a Berber from what is considered today as Algeria. He was the Praetorian prefect under the two emperors Geta and Caracalla. basically he was a finance guy for the military and he probably owned slaves and even gladiators. Basically Caracalla grew wary of his rising power and ordered his assassination but Macrinus got to him first and proclaimed himself Emperor there after. However his reign only lasted a year and he to was captured by enemies and murdered.
That's not true
Is that true?
@@yourewrongabouteverythingYes that is true. It's his literal bio information on all websites featuring him
@@mew10521 Yeah you can check it out, plenty of history books about it or online. However this is Hollywood. I wouldn't watch movies to get real accurate historical information. Movies are just artistic expression. Even the first Gladiator movie wasn't historically accurate.
@@iDeathMaximuMII I suspect the gentleman was having a laugh, based on his name.
Denzel used to be my favourite actor. But not in a role like this. Its like someone told him “no one will care you have an American accent in ancient Rome”
Well, techically to be accurate they should speak Latin. The next closest thing is Italian as it accepted as the language with the closest accent to Latin. Here the speak British English.
Even the British accents irk me so the American accent is truly bizarre.
@@5050TMBut he only uses it when he says "Powah!"
This looks almost exactly like that unspeakably bad Robin Hood movie with Jamie Foxx.
Again Moors were actually "black" they showed this in the First Robin Hood movie with Kevin!
Ironic, considering how Ridley Scott tried adapting Robin Hood too, but it failed.
Denzel character is based on a real man from a wealthy Roman family but he was berber, not black
Philip the Arab?
They say he's portraying Macrinus, Roman Emperor from 217-218
Though I'm not sure why he's portrayed this way. He was a Praetorian Prefect of Emperor Caracalla
Berber where famous for their "Black face painting" on their social media. Learn history 🤣🤣🤣
@@fidelio9301Philip is about 30 years later from this film
@@iDeathMaximuMII Just watch 95% of movies made in the last 5 years. And you should TOTALLY understand why he his portrayed this way THEY DON'T CARE. Shut your brain, consume content, eat your chips, applaud like a seal, rinse and repeat.
Don't forget to pay.
It's become so transparent to me that Hollywood sits there flicking through their back catalog musing on what thing of the past they can make "content" from, desperate to avoid doing something from a clean slate. Like Furiosa, where no-one on the planet is asking for these stories to be continued, but the creators are obsessed with anything that ever captured audiences attention before becoming a franchise.
I figured out the gimmick. Look at the movies we get sequels to, who were their primary audience? White hetero-men. Clearly these movies aren't made for quality but an attempt to demoralize us, it's a modern take on book burning. IP burnings. Turn them into DEIESG minstrel shows, cry bigotry when it flops, rinse and repeat.
SOOOO TRUE. It’s the definition of unneeded and unwanted
George Miller wrote and gave Charlize Theron a script for "Furiosa" to give her the background of her character during "Fury Road". I do agree that no one really was clamoring for a Furiosa movie nearly a decade later. Even if I like that movie, it really should have been made no more than three years after Fury Road while that movie was fresher in people's minds.
I'd like to see what happened to the police captain from the first movie, he was great.
Furiosa was good it just needed to come out sooner
Quintus - _"People should know when to give up."_
Maximus - _"Would you Quintus? Would I?"_
Ridley Scott - _"I certainly don't."_
Denzel always plays Denzel. He always does it well but sometimes you have to wonder why he is in the role other than the producers just wanted a Denzel.
Pedro Pascal is gonna be the sidekick of some strong female character in Gladiator 2 like what happened to him as Din Djarin being sidekick of Bo Katan in The Mandalorian Final Season.
Wouldn’t be surprised 😂😂
I’ll be honest, I’m kind of sick of seeing his face
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access That's why he wears a helmet in Mando.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p doesn't wear it enough for a guy that supposedly never takes it off
Sick of him also
Other than the hip hop music I was kinda on board with the trailer until they put in that keyjangling/memberberry Maximus' armor and weapons shot. That kinda dropped the other shoe that it's not a sequel, it's another one of THOSE movies. I thought we were past that, and it's so disrespectful to do it with a masterpiece like Gladiator.
There was time when you loved when you saw Pedro in movie or tv show.Now its other way around.Hes in everything.
He's the "go to" diversity hire. Ironically, he gets all the jobs, thus removing opportunities from other diversity actors.
It's not that he's in everything, it's all the fan boys that think he's the greatest and best looking actor of all time.
For real tho is Pedro working overtime or something? Hes in EVERYTHING.
I know it seems odd to have naval battles in the Colosseum, but that's historically accurate. It was one of the marvels of that era. I was shocked when I read about that in the history books. And gladiatrixes did exist, but they were a very minor thing... considered a novelty, and NEVER put up against male gladiators.
wasnt most gladiatorial combat simulated too? Like professional wrestling?
I've been there, and when you go there, see it in person. HOLY COW is it amazing. Since the floor is gone, it's amazing how high the walls were, how much is underneath the stage, and how big it is. Italy still to this day is the coolest place I've visited, twice.
@@judyhopps9380 Not according to the history books. Bloodsports were very common back then, especially in the Roman empire. The Colosseum was no exception.
@@judyhopps9380 HMMM... Trying to remember what I learned from that trip to the Colosseum in the 90s. I don't know if it was staged per se, but wasn't always as deadly, since near the end they were running out of prisoners, so they couldn't keep sacrificing them.
@judyhopps9380 yes gladiators never actually killed there opponents
This is like Netflix's Cleopatra all over again.
How?
No.
No… different reasons to suck
How?? You must not know much about ancient Rome
Firstly, this isn't a documentary. Secondly, there were black slaves and even one black senator in ancient Rome.
I look forward to seeing the Siege and Ship Colosseum scene for free on TH-cam.
Someone put the original music over the second trailer and it was so much better.
the moment the protagonist starts to speak in the trailer... I mean this is THE GUY right? The charismatic GUY who we should cheer for the whole movie... With that delivery a worker in Starbucks would get told off for low energy. fml, who casts these people?
The same people who used to make fun of you for liking these movies
Guy's a plank of wood. We have a serious leading man problem lately, I can't tell you off the top of my head any young charismatic actors I look forward to watching. That's probably why Timothe Charlamet, Tom Holland and Zendaya are in everything now.
Can't have them be TOO masculine. They might become a role-model for young men.
I mean, it’s not like Paul Mescal is a bad actor. Watched him in Normal People, The Lost Daughter, and Aftersun. But for a role like that, I just can’t buy him leading an army or fighting as a Gladiator. Maybe that’s the point, but usually the best castings are the ones, where the actor has established that they can handle action.
@@osmanyousif7849 exactly, not saying he is a bad actor, just not right for this part. It's the eyes, you need to know he has seen shit, that is why other men would follow. You could get that from the first time seeing Russel Crowe in Gladiators trailer that he was the mans man for example
Fans reedited the trailer with "Now we are free" cover, now it looks so much better...Let's hope the movie is not composed by the same person as the trailer.
Tbf, the music is most likely just chosen for the trailer. Though if the trailer is worth anything, it should give a decent impression of how the actual movie is, so maybe the soundtrack is really like this.
Ridley Scott said in an interview that making a sequel, "made sense financially". We'll see about that 🤣
Ridley Scott also genuinely believes in the Ancient Aliens theory (yes, really - that's not just the plot of Prometheus. It's something he actually believes in), so yeaahhhh...
@@Right_Said_Brett, you sure nobody paid him to talk like that?
@@osmanyousif7849 Of course Scott wasn't paid to say that. He's always spoken his mind and besides, who the frik would pay him to say that he believes that mankind was created by aliens?!
Well no one does know how life started so good to keep an open mind generally. I mean billions think God did it. Fair enough, can't prove it either way.
@@basementsnaxx We have plenty of evidence to suggest how life began on Earth. There is zero evidence to suggest that God created life on Earth, nor that aliens created life on Earth. It's not about keeping an open mind, it's about following the evidence.
I mean, I can't prove that vampires or pixies don't exist, but that doesn't mean that it's being "open minded" to believe in the existence of vampires or pixies. The onus of proof falls upon those whom believe in such things.
Having said that, it's understandable that so many people believe in a god, given that so many people are indoctrinated to believe in such a being at a young age, but buying into the whole Ancient Aliens nonsense is boneheaded nonsense and inherently rooted in r@cism ("There's no way that those primitive people of colour could have built the pyramids. It must have been superior beings from outta space!").
Brought to you by the cinematic genius who brought you Prometheus and Prometheus 2: covenant: alien boogaloo: part 12: dawn of the alien
Rap in ancient Rome baby!
50 cent will be on a podium signing for the crowd.
"Go, shawty, it's your birthday
We gon' party like it's your birthday
We gon' sip Bacardí like it's your birthday
And you know we don't give a fuck it's not your birthday" Pom Pom Poum, Pom Pom Poum.
A Knight's featured Queen.
Get all my bitches Homie Nero lol
@@anubusx And everyone roundly mocked A Knight's Tale for it as well.
Hans Zimmer's music also wasn't possible to make in ancient Rome, follwoing that logic. Anyway I hated the rap music in the trailer too.
Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got a good laugh out of this. One of my favorite movies ever.
Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue
Joey: *_"No, but keep this up and you'll be going to a Turkish prison."_*
I clapped, I got the reference. YAY!!!
Pedro Pascal and Awkafina have the best fucking agent in Hollywood, they must have dirt on everybody.
9:20 Olive oil. An essential item in ancient Rome with many different uses. In addition to being an integral part of the diet, olive oil was used to make perfume, treat maladies, conduct religious rituals and provide lighting inside houses and temples.
This film is gonna be amazing or terrible, theres no middle ground for Ridley Scott
Sadly the last time he made an amazing film was...a long friggin' time ago.
All of his recent films were just mid.
@@oskar6661 aside Last Duel, his recent went downhill
I loved him for his old work. Now I'm just sad these days.
@@AxenfonKlatismrek Yep. The Last Duel was the sole exception to the rule. Scott's being terrible for ages now.
Come on training day part 2 rome edition 😂😂😂😂 my mhann we in rome now!!!
Ceaser ain't got shit on me.
Training Day II: Roma Victa
@@anubusxI didn't know you like to get wet!? Primo, angel dust, butt naked, Sherman Helmsley, PCP.
One piece that’s being ignored from Ridley Scott’s involvement: the studio may have told him “We own the rights. We can make this sequel with or without you,” like they did the Wachowskis with Matrix 4
So what? Just let _them_ make the turd and keep your own slate clean
Memo to Drinker: *Olive* oil was a MASSIVELY important staple in the Roman world. Portable calories that didn't turn too fast. Also used for bathing, lamps and a bunch of other stuff. Oil merchant would be a BFD back then.
Not sure if I should be impressed that they think this will work, or disappointed that nothing is original these days
Both!
The Kanye West music had me rolling on the ground laughing
Idk why on earth this needed a sequel
Was so expecting "We will rock you" to start blasting out at somepoint
Feels like a big downgrade from the original.
Remember peak Russell Crowe and Joaquin Phonix???
Now we have discount replacements
THIS💯💯
They are good actors too.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Are we talking about Crowe and Phoenix or the new actors here?
@@chasehedges6775 New actors.
And Oliver Reed in his last role and he was outstanding.
Goose bumps watching him in that scene with RC.
I saw the original at the cinema and later bought the DVD. I'll wait for streaming on this one!
The recommendation of Pedro Pascals character sounds like a Chuckle Brothers quote:
Barry: He’s a very good general
Paul: A very very good general
Barry: a very very very good general
😂
I''ve accepted this will probably just be good old fashion violent absurdist fun. Denzel looks like he's having a good time with the role.
There was a space battle in Monty Python’s The Life of Brian, Mauler.
Nothing makes a trailer sound more juvenile, and destroys its potential to be epic, than including rap music in it. Forget the fact that the music doesn't fit the time period, rap just exudes a level of stupidity and lack of sophistication that would ruin even the most expertly crafted trailer. It would be like going to a high class restaurant, and insisting that the entree, costing several hundred dollars, be served with a side of Chicken McNuggets.
I didn't realize Hollywood blockbusters were so sophisticated.
What a cast. Never seen these youtubers together before
As a person who loves roman history, I am scared. I do not want to think of all the historical blunders they will make. 😢
Judging by the trailer and story I have heard so far. I feel like I have seen this before. Like I saw this same film 24 years ago.
I would like to add the original ended with the fact Maximus won the fight and before he collapsed #1 Said to free all the slaves and #2 set it for Rome to be a Republic again. So are they just going to ignore those things.
Which didn't happen in real life because after Comodo there was the "Year of the Five Emperors" which ended when Caracalla and his brother Geta were appointed as emperors until they were... ahem, taken out of the picture, Geta by his own brother and Caracalla by Macrinus. Macrinus became emperor until he was minecrafted too and then others became emperors after him... until the very end of the Roman Empire as we know it.
The Roman Republic ended in 27 BC and the Roman Empire started. Gladiator takes place roughly in 180 AC. Even if Maximus wanted it to be a republic again, History tells us another story.
@@nalublackwater9729 Considering the original movie is based on fiction your reply does not answer the question to which I am asking. You are just adding what the real history is suppose to be which since the first movie is based on fiction correcting the first to make it like real history is destroying the story of the first movie. If that is the case then why call it Gladiator 2. Why not then just make a new movie with new title.
He doesn't say free all the slaves, he says "Quintus free my men. Senator Graccus is to be reinstated there was a dream that was Rome it shall be realised " he then promptly dies
@@michaelwilburn5784as you say it's fiction so he can say whatever he wants happened between the end of the last film and the start of this film. It seems more realistic though that the word of one dying man who just killed the emperor working with one ageing senator and the sister of the now dead emptror didn't result in rhe formation of a stable Republic. Rather than he dies and everyone with power in the empire does exactly as he asks.
@@sbird389 Thank your for correcting me yes you are correct but still does not answer my question.
I hope this movie is good. Honestly, the first film is one of the best movies ever made, so I feel like Gladiator 2 has a lot to live up to.
Pedro pascal showing his amazing range again .
Paul Mescal is actually a very good actor. I think he will be fine going forward even if this movie is a bust.
Hopefully, his performance is good but it will still suck regardless
Appreciate your authenticity, keep being real
Begone thot-bot!
The character Denzel Washington plays, Macrinus, was an actual person in history. He was a well educated lawyer/politician who after a prophesy that he'd kill the Emperor, he freaked out and did just that. Then became Emperor.
He wasn’t black though. There was a black Roman emperor but it wasn’t Macrinus
@@tammyventer5488There was no black Roman Emperor
@@tammyventer5488 documentation from the time period call Emperor Macrinus a Moor.
Ah, yes. The old 'I'm doing this because it's been prophesized' excuse. So convenient throughout history.
@PrincessBunhead, Another commenter said he was a Berber funny they also were "black" or at least some.
Denzel the Gladiaza gets out his ancient hour glass, planning the next 3600 seconds.
Denzel, you're going to play an ancient Roman citizen, from Northern Africa...
"Cool, so like Kevin Costner in Prince of Thieves?"
No, like Dave Chappelle in Men In Tights.
😂😂😂😂 I laughed too much but really his role looks very interesting!
Gladiator 2 feels like a gag from Weird Al. Like Ghandi 2 in VHF.
There were female gladiators (at least one archer I remember without looking) in the chariot fight in the first Gladiator. Historically speaking it might not track but it does with the other movie.
In the same way that Shad is convinced that all of Europe is 13th century England, Hollywood is convinced that all of North Africa is Nubia and Ethiopia, and all of Ethiopia is basically the bronx.
It's our turn to have our culture used and distortet by people who have none
No. Naumachie were only possible for the FIRST time they used it, for the opening, it required 4 years to drain a lake for them to have water in it. After that, all the passages carved under it to move gladiators and beasts made it impossible to flood it again.
Plus the arena wasn't empty like that, they literally made forests other landskapes to mimic all the places of the Roman Empire (like in theater, the gladiators were fighting/hunting on a set. they also showed elephants writing on the sand...but what payed professionals know about the history they're stealing?!)
Denzel :"You wanna go to jail or you wanna go to Rome"
Superb
I didn't know you like to get wet!
I would like to point out Ridley Scott is doing a massive film like this and this guy is like 86 or 87. CRAZY! PROPS
What a fun fun fun ( 3 fun’s) group of happy people we have here ! Jesus
"I'm very, but not very very."
- Tom Jones
I have no idea of how Scott is gonna pervert, twist or trample History books, but here's what happened back then according to the records:
Macrinus was born in North Africa, in the city of Cesarea, in what now we know as Argel. He was the son of local nobility of Berber origins (hence he didn't look like Denzel, not even remotely), though they weren't exactly wealthy. He received an education that allowed him to become a lawyer (and a very skilled one, it seems). When he was young the local Praetorian Prefect named him what we would call today "law consultant" (btw, the praetorian prefectures were the highest level administrative divisions in those years, so that post wasn't too shabby). After said praetorian was... uh... taken out of the picture, Macrinus kept working as a Tax Attorney, until Caracalla and Geta were named emperors and Caracalla named him Praetorian Prefect. Years went by and Macrinus is said to have been the instigator of Caracalla's demise, who in turn had carried out the "minecrafting" of his brother Geta, years prior.
So there you have, Macrinus was a bureaucrat, a lawyer and a tax attorney before becoming a "governor" of shorts with military power.
Appreciate the history lesson but this is not a historical film it’s a work of fiction
@@jbiz979 The moment you include historical figures you are making a historical movie, not a work of fiction. But what would an american know about it, right?
Now I want a biopict of Rodney King played by Ryan Gosling, please. Or Rosa Parks played by Nicole Kidman with her natural redhead hair. Also change Rodney's work from taxi driver to drvg dealer because it's cooler, and Rosa's original job for cabaret singer and instead of being happily married to Raymond I want her having an affair with one of those kkk nutjobs, because that's cooler too.
Don't like it? Though luck. The rest of the world is very tired of your american shiet and we should start making spoofs of your own brief and fragmented history, as you deserve.
@@jbiz979 The moment you put a historical figure you have to, at least, respect their ethnicity.
But what would an american know?
Look what Scott did with Commodus.
@@nalublackwater9729 I know what ethnicity means and it has nothing to do with racial characteristics
I think the "oil" you refer to is derived from olives, and would primarily be used for preparing food. Olive oil has been a *huge* component of Mediterranean diets for a very long time.
Finally! Because the original Gladiator left so many unanswered questions!!!
Hollywood SUCKS!!!
Marcus Opellius Macrinus played by Denzel Washington is another race swapped character that you can add to Hollywood's race swapped characters list.
Marcus was born in Caesarea (Cherchell now in North Africa Algeria) which means he is from the Amazigh of the north which means he is white or brown (tan) like many of his people.
Bro you know these people think Africa equals blk lol.
To be fair on Macrinus, he's really irrelevant in Roman history(appears, kills an incompetent emperor, becomes an even less competent general, gets crushed by Elagabalus, then disappears), and I've met people of Berber descent who looked like this. But yeah the melanin went too down for him
@@vespasianflavius2766he was a Berber.....they were black
Dude, he was a Berber. Berbers were black. For as much as the left is hyper focused on race, you guys are starting to do the same thing in reverse. You're obsessing over melanin content. Think about that for a second. And if we're being honest, pretty much every actor in the original film was "race swapped" compared to what ancient Romans actually looked like.
@@joeberger3441 I am Berber. I live in Algeria. There is Berbers of the North, most are White or brown (Tan) and there is the Atlas region Berbers and the Sahara Berbers (Touareg) and they are the ones who you can call a Black Berbers, so stop gaslighting.
This movie might stinks of modern messaging.
There were female gladiators in the first film...just saying
@@royfr8136 so yea, let's address that. Denzel is playing a historical figure known as Macrinus, an Algerian slave owner/arms dealer who was of Berber descent and eventually became emperor after an uprising that killed Caracella. Berbers are considered to have a pretty dark complexion compared to the rest of North Africa. We don't know for sure how dark Macrinus was, but I'm not about to start fussing over melanin content. Are you? While we're at it, let's discuss just how closely Richard Harris and Russel Crowe resembled Mediterranean people. Pretty sure they weren't Italians or Spaniards, or anyone linked to ancient Roman ethnicities. See how ridiculous this becomes? Nobody had a problem with it because they nailed the roles. If you want to make the argument that Denzel is too dark for the role, fine..play that game. I personally just care about good writing and good acting.
@@royfr8136 also, to be clear, I have a lot of issues with DEI and a lot of other woke ideas that have been prevalent the last 10 years in film and media. But not everything is woke, and sometimes the anti woke brigade becomes a witch hunt. When you find yourself obsessing over race just as much as the left does, to the point where you don't even realize how much the original Gladiator got things wrong, then it's time to reevaluate your perspective. Thank God social media wasn't around when the first Gladiator came out.
@@joeberger3441 Thanks for clarifying - I hope that he being a slave owner is made clear in the movie and maybe a slave owner of whites- as you say, it's historically accurate that black people and Arabs were a huge part of that industry - I think there is a line but that line seems only in one direction - I mean Queen Anne Boleyn one of Henry VIIIs wives was recently cast as a full black African woman - But you would not change a historical figure such as Nelson Mandela - played by Hugh Grant now, would you? Hollywood is pushing an agenda for sure - and strong male led films, Tv shows and even TV commercials have all but disappeared.
@@royfr8136 I totally get that and agree it's gotten out of hand..I just don't think Denzel playing a Berber is a huge deal. He's probably closer genetically to a real Berber than Richard Harris was to ancient Italians. From a historical perspective, neither Gladiator 1 nor 2 are accurate at all
9:20 olive oil. Unironically a very important part of the food chain for soldiers back then.
Oil, pretty sure it's either for cooking and eating or for fueling lamps, treating wood and so on. Oil was a valuable item at that period of time.
We didn't need a top gun sequel but they made a good one. Gladiator 2 might be bad but there's a chance he will pull it off.
Well they do say the last thing to die is hope do heres to hope 🥂
A good movie doesn't mean good to everyone. If you ordered pizza and I sent you the best burger ever made......
The difference is that with Top Gun there was a set of characters for which a new story could be happening. Gladiator, not really. Hero - dead. Villain - dead. Revenge - accomplished. There are probably all kinds of stories to tell about ancient Rome, but the gladiator thing was done.
Agreed, tbh I'm not dismissing the movie off the bat, it has a horrible trailer, but it might still surprise. That said I think that's a very small chance, Gladiator REALLY didn't need a sequel.
The difference is that Top Gun doesn't take History books and uses them as toilet paper.
Yo, Gladiator II's a mess, can't match the original vibe,
Maximus deserves better, not this Hollywood bribe.
FYI….
There were “gladiatrexes,” in the first gladiator movie, if you rewatch their version of the battle of Carthage.
There were some but they weren't that prominent were a rarity.
Hollywood often gets gladiators wrong
Given the setting, I would assume the "oil" in question is olive oil, not petroleum. 😉
or rapeseed
Oil was used then. Not oil as we think now. Olive oil.
The Emperor in the film is Caracalla. And the other is his brother.
The oil they're referring to is animal oil for lamps and torches, not petrol.
The film is still likely going to be garbage.
Caracalla was bigger and north African. Why the f is he a white blonde
Song opening of the trailer was written by Matthew McConaughey I just found out. All right all right all right 🎵
🎼 !!!!!!
There was a black female archer with gold armor played by stuntwoman Jane Omorogbe in the original movie. She dies like the woman fighter in this movie, no different.
But they need to opine about women and black ppl so shh don't ruin their fun