UNSC & permanent seat for India Introduction * India, which represents one sixth of the global population, has a rightful claim to the permanent membership of the United Nation's Security Council. * Delivering a joint G4 statement on behalf of Brazil, Germany, India and Japan, India's Permanent Representative in 2016 stated that the grouping was eager for a forward discussion on UNSC permanent membership and reforms. Need for the move * India-Founding member * Peacekeeping operations leader * ICJ * Soft power-International yoga day Impediments * Japan, Germany- declining candidacy * China’s opposition to japan * Germany opposed by Spain, Italy & France * Brazil-opposition from Argentina, Mexico * China’s call to India to leave G-4 India & China * Wuhan- not to discuss-Dalai Lama, border disputes, pak India & pak * GDP of pak less than that of Maharashtra Way Forward * Managing the transition * Xi’s upcoming visit * France supports India Conclusion Lots of things are happening in economy of China, pak & other countries involved and also in India with the Kashmir issue. All eyes are on the upcoming Xi’s visit because they being biggest opposer of India on the table .But let’s not forget UNGA session is going to take place in September. Hopefully India would be part of P-6 whether it would be part of P-5 or not
Indian should more focus in its EDUCATION rather than anything else.why Israel have no desire bcz they have good education which leads better technology and people sense of responsibility towards nation. Duniya kevl majbut ki sath deti h.
Let's grow at 10℅ for 10 years and they will ask us to join. Best way forward to get into elite group. And to grow at such level every individual must do ones best. Once we able to make our population productive there will be fantastic results. I am sure in my life time india will make it possible to get there. Jai Hind.
UNSC & permanent seat for India Introduction: India has one-sixth of the global population and is one of the founding members. India has always respected the institution and participated in it. Delivering a joint G4 statement on behalf of Brazil, Germany, India, and Japan, India's Permanent Representative in 2016 stated that the grouping was eager for a forward discussion on UNSC permanent membership and reforms. In reality, there is a decline of the west. Need for the move: A leader in Peacekeeping operations Upholder of principles and credentials. India's clout in the UN has increased, eg: election of an Indian in ICJ. International yoga day with 177 countries. Impediments: India is opposed by China and Pakistan Germany is opposed by UK, France, Spain, and Italy. Brazil opposed by Argentina, Mexico. African countries haven't come up with a candidate. India has been following its own policy. As in the case of bombings in Libya, where India had opposed initially and then abstained in the vote. All the P5 countries have their own angularities. China’s urge to India to leave G-4 UK, US, and France will not cede that the west is on a decline. Japan's inclusion is facing problems as its economic clout is declining and China is opposing strongly. China's role: China in its own perception has equated India with Pakistan. Pakistan is its tool. China on the behest of Pakistan called for informal consultations. Wuhan warmth was considered temporary. Wuhan summit did not discuss-Dalai Lama, border disputes, Pakistan issues. China is more or less isolated in UNSC. As in the case of Hafiz Saeed. India & Pakistan: GDP of Pakistan less than that of Mumbai Even China is finding it difficult to bail out Pakistan. Way Forward: France is supporting openly. America plays a different game altogether. Managing the transition Xi’s upcoming visit in October. UNGA session is going to take place in September and hopefully, India would be part of P-6 whether it would be part of P-5 or not. If the Indian economy can grow at 10% for 10 years then the members will ask India to be a member. India should not over-invest in it.
Just one correction- GDP of Mumbai is not greater than Pakistan but GDP of Maharashtra is greater than Pakistan. GDP of Mumbai is $386 billion in PPP terms and people often compares it with Nominal GDP of a state or a country like Pakistan. For example, Pakistan's GDP in PPP is over $1 Trillion. So, Its like Mumbai's $368 billion vs Pakistan's $1.19 trillion. So, Maharashtra as a whole state beats Pakistan by a huge margin with NOMINAL GDP of $420 billion (Mumbai is around $160 billion) vs Pakistan's NOMINAL GDP is around $278 billion.
@@tusharrrrrr I have one little out the context question why google shows PPP of the countries when I search "per capita income" of any country, Are they same?
@@abhishekanshuwali3808 That's how google is designed. It extracts information through a particular source. So the 1st place it looks for when the keywords like GDP is used is the world bank and it shows us whatever world bank feeds it easily. Also, World bank have data available in PPP as well as Nominal but it don't mention the word "nominal". So, If you search for nominal per capita income, it won't be able to fetch info from worldbank and will look somewhere else. Sometimes such results are outdated too. So, Always go inside the site and check for the information.
First of all, India is not a founding member of the United Nations. The United Nations was founded in 1945 and India was founded in 1947. Economic level, if you look at the economic development, Japan and Germany should have got the permanent seat on the Security Council long ago, but China would never have got the permanent seat. Political level, judging from the fact that many Indians feel that France or USA will support India, I don't think Indians are political enough to be a permanent member. Since the P5 will not support any country to share their own interests, the five countries have a common interest in the power of the permanent members. This is the basic political logic. So the only way to become a permanent member is war, complete defeat of any one of the P5 by a total war, because the P5 status was obtained by war, but I don't think India will have such military strength in the next few decades.
We should not beg or demand for UNSC seat instead we should be in a position where the world countries expect us to be in UNSC and P5 has no option but to welcome us...that day we should enter the council with full pride....
It's not beg it is our right and we have to get it we are founding member and regional power and in process to be global one rest that we r also one of the biggest contributor to make this organization successful
@@dr.abhishekkumar6327 no that's not true,,,he is like bhisma he knows everything but nothing is in his hand,,,he wants India to be economical super power,,,but he knows if he go against Madan he will not be longer PM and his aim is no full fill,,,,
well, india truely deserves to be selected as a permanent member of UNSC . It represents the largest population of the world, socially, economically and politically also india has a say in MAJOR ISSUES of today's time.
@divineslaughter can't do so, but Mark my words there will be another war not conventional but asymmetric. There will be a new world order like after WW2 infact if you see such things happened every 50 years we are well over that timeline so it's just a matter of time.
unfortunately, we will never grow at that pace. We will stumble around 6-9% for decades and might achieve 10% maybe once in a decade but not continuously like china...
@@tusharrrrrr manmohan already achieved that in 2007. India was growing like 12% at that time. But unfortunately we had to face global recession at that time. In 2020 there is again a recession ahead.
Focus should be on strengthening our economy .as Dr. Manmohan Singh suggested that if we grow our gdp 10% for a decade the ultimately India will be parallel to P5 members. There is no need to of spending diplomatic capital just to raise this issue . C Raja Mohan also opines the same.
@Panda King Abe chutiye.. Ur own chaiwala has made our GDP ranking slip from 7 to 6th rank... Our GDP growth rate is coming down to 6% which is lower than manmohan's 8%..
The success of India in getting the support of the world over Kashmir issue itself proves our acumen and diplomatic victory.... There is no need for UN Certification or to be at the UNSC table
India should support Hong Kong people in their protest in compensation for Permanent seat in United Nation. China too was supported by India for promise to peacefully settle the border issues which China never did rather acted opposite like CPEC and Bhutan chicken neck.
thats what i always think. If china can be a problem for us in issues like Kashmir, why cant we be the problem in their disputed areas like HK or Taiwan Or Xinjiang province.China just made a case for HR violations in Kashmir, We could have done the same for atrocities on Uighurs if we had a permanent seat! Hypocrisy!!
Thanks u so much rstv 🙏 If we grow 10%+ every year for 10 years they ask us to do that❤️🎉🥳 😍
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I like Pramit Pal talking, he knows his subject and knowledge in the subject matter. Hope I could have personal conversation with you you. Thanks for your views expressed here. You are correct. The UNSC need to reform with the times.
Ppl hv always undermined Dr. Manmohan Singh's acumen on International Affairs Or rather at every crucial issue. But his one line statement regarding UNSC seat sums his clarity, vision and insight on issues like this.
Pramit Pal seriously is dope af on the geo poliical aspect of the world n a UNSC seat, look at how he pointed out the Republican Vs Democrat aspect of them supporting us on UNSC vs NSG etc, very few people will understand or even come up with what he has said and yes he is 100% right.
Manmohan wasn't leading - he was sitting on Sonia's lap like a lapdog. The 1st Congress govt was reaping the benefits earned by the previous BJP govt, while the 2nd Congress govt saw a huge economic slowdown, since it was reaping the lacklustre policies of the 1st Congress term in office.
Manmohan Singh was a very good finance minister under Prime Minister Rao. He could have a good prime minister but he was undermined by Sonia and Rahul Gandhi.
Well, India deserve permanent membership in UNSC because in Asian continent there are lot of issues which tamper Asian people China is not showing desire to solve the issues of Asian region therefore India (democratic country) should be permanent membership
I am Indian but you are wrong this time because Japan is more deserve then India and I not give you resoan you know may be you have knowledge so I ask one question who is more deserve Japan or India ?? You give answer
My best friend died on Sunday. In that context, seeing all this.... the world is messed up. It should have been a simple place to live without any competition....where everyone could live peacefully.
Could be better for India to undercut the UN until it's granted a seat. The main requirement for that would be for India to boost its economic power. Also, India could quietly use its influence to encourage others to flout the UN, so that we can indirectly put pressure on the UN without us being directly seen as a violator of it.
Thankyou for the discussion. I agree with the Chief Editor of the Himdustan times when he said that if India focuses on improving itself, the US and the other countries will automatically have to choose India. It is also very much true that sharing the power held will also not be very easy to give. It can only be with complete confidence or with great reluctance internally while knowing that India will deserve a seat. It is time for India to change its focus into growing economically and hold a strong stand point in the Global scheme of Geo and Economic Politics to grow further.
See.. The real thing that matters is power..economic, diplomatic, military, cultural.. If india works hard and gets all these...then you won't have to go to UN to ask for a seat.. The UN will invite you..because the UN p5 members will not want a big power outside of the system.. It could create misjudgement and india not being a part of UN as permanent member will allow india to disregard the consensus achieved by the p5.. India could act anyway it wants and use its eco, diplo and military power to constantly snub the p5 members.. So.. First get the power and then think about permanent seat.
India has a great population about 17 % of world population ,and it play a great participation in UN peace keeping force , it's world largest democracy which lead a great roll for establishing perfect democracy in any other country unless and untill there is no permanent seat in UNSC it calls totally unjustifiably and narrow thought and it will never achieve it's goal 👍# It is most imp topic for us and also for world's another country like japan , jarmny , Brazil etc
It is high time that India gets a seat at the Permanent Members table. 1 out of 6 people are Indians in the world living in more than a 100 countries worldwide. Some economies like the Gulf states in the Middle East would suffer heavily or would be on brink of collapse if Indians were suddenly removed. The world economy has improved with the efforts of Indians and Indian-origin citizens in different parts of the world. We share a diplomatic relation with over 90% of the countries in the world with a population over 250,000 people. India can stifle China and make them agree to vote for India's inclusion if they twist their arm by disturbing their CPEC investment in Pakistan.
India can't deal with internal issues and near neighbors and aims for UNSC seat More like me . Can't read for hours with focus but still aiming to crack UPSC CSE.
I think you are wrong...the new india can deal with internal issues very well..look at Kashmir issue...govt took a brilliant move,,,it is new india...india does not care about anyone...about any damn country..
@@avikgupta7813 if anything presented in UNSC against India China will definitely support that based on their own benefits or supporting Pakistan so to oppose that how long India will depend on other countries ? India should get UNSC seat so we will get rid of annoying and disturbing neighbors like China and India. and Yes you said good word India is strong and gave examples that is great but UNSC seat for India definitely important.
I think India has to continue growing, and if the UN does not recognise India, then India should not recognise the validity of UN resolutions or institutions and should state this clearly but state that they will work inside the UN to promote world peace. India shoiuld only vote in the UN on aspects that are to the benefit of India. India should bypass the UN whenever possible and resolve issues bilaterally. Economic strength is key to power projection.
India can only get into UNSC if the situation plays out like China, Russia, India versus the US, UK, France, this structure can balance things out, and it's good for all mankind in terms of many aspects.
India need's to grow at 10 to 12% and be a very advanced Technologically country to be among the top 3 countries. If India's growth for a decade grow at avg.10 to 12%.and become's leading Economic Power can claim the right for a seat at a higher table of top 5.
Someone from IBSA (India,Brazil,SouthAfrica) deserves seat ,to start with some form of rotating permanent seat among IBSA countries NAM or G77 kind of big grouping is the perfect place to show the leadership skills of India
Why UNSC not deciding election for the 6 member ?? Every member country has 1 vote And only most desrving candidate can participate for the next permanent member... Support if you agree
I think new international constitution needed Seat given to everyone and based on people and economy not only just economy I think One seat for India China North America South America Russia Europe Middle East Africa Australia
Whether a UN member deserves a permanent seat or not on the UNSC has nothing to do with the issue; it is the UN charter that has decided who is or is not a permanent member. It happens that China will not have India on the high table, and that is all that matters.
Vice President M. Venkaiah Naidu on Monday said that India, which represents one sixth of the global population, has a rightful claim to the permanent membership of the United Nation’s Security Council. One of the key historic reasons for India’s quest for a permanent seat at the UNSC was to ensure protection of national interest in crucial diplomatic moments when the organ takes up issues such as Kashmir. Delivering a joint G4 statement on behalf of Brazil, Germany, India and Japan, India’s Permanent Representative Syed Akbaruddin in 2016 stated that the grouping was eager for a forward discussion on UNSC permanent membership and reforms. Diplomats have blamed China for having quietly carried out a campaign to stop India’s efforts at the UNSC. Veteran diplomats have said that the latest UNSC meeting on Kashmir which was convened following an initiative from China showed that India will have to show more stamina to stop China from using the organ against India’s interest. The issue of expanding the UNSC and the Text Based Negotiation is expected to come up in the next UN General Assembly session in September. On this edition of the big picture we will analyse UNSC reforms and a permanent seat for India
Why isn't India among the current ten non permanent members of the UN Security council ? But we are aspiring for permanent membership, this is ironic and though being a proud Indian
Grow at 10 percent for 10 years un Will invite India to join unsc we should continue with our diplomatic mission to reform unsc but not too much if u strong military economic political internally no can stop us from having a seat on high table
This is where India lacks and it has now a daily routine.. Currently as the world is facing an economic war and recession like situation,India itself has hit its economic growth by using unproductive and unattractive economic policies especially post budget this year. Government has to take this economic slowdown very seriously otherwise nothing will change
For now at least we have to think about balkanizing pakistan, only then will China yield and give its vote to us for security council. Chinese only repect power i.e. take back POK & break up pakistan.
Germany and Japan have been historical agressors. There is no way they will get a P-seat. But Brazil can get it to represent South American population but it can tilt balance of power of South America in favour of Brazil only at the cost of its neighbours.
Can't we by-pass this UNSC and form new international institution... I mean just 5 f....king countries have veto powers to have control over international things...! I think many countries would support to form better institution then UNSC it may not be simple as that but not impossible right?
India should stop pandering to China....it has never raised its voice against China since 1950s But what else can we expect...when Ministry of External affairs is helmed by an ex-ambassador to China, even the secretary of the ministry, VK Gokhale is an ex-ambassador to China I am 101% sure India wouldnt raise its voice against what is happening in Tibet, Hong Kong and Xinjiang! Shame on you MEA!
@@reconquistahinduism346 no I'm saying Britain and France international involvement is becoming more less and less, they don't want to intermediate any international dispute, they will give up their seats no matter what the cost.. because they can't afford same goes to British raj
Have you ever won a big war against other permanent countries ? If no , I am sorry India don’t have qualification to join, every permanent country is the winner in the WW2, they represent for the justice, but India just colony of UK .
That isn't a criteria to get UNSC permanent seat. Thing is India represents 1/6th of human population which dosen't have a permanent representative in UNSC. Secondly, India contributed largest number of peace keeping force to UN.
Actually seat was never offered to india. www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehindu.com/news/national/jawaharlal-nehru-on-permanent-unsc-membership-no-question-of-a-seat-being-offered-and-india-declining-it/article26536197.ece/amp/ Now its upto us we want to believe it or not
@@arpittripathi2945 I always doubt The Hindu's journalism. @www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/defence/why-india-missed-a-seat-on-the-un-security-council/amp_articleshow/69172867.cms
@john doe China was a dictator Communist regime in the 60s whereas India was a democratic nation. No country had approved the legitimacy of Communist government in China. In fact, your Great grandfather Nehru was the first to recognise the communist regime as a legitimate one. China was going through internal turmoil at that time and the annexation of Tibet made the matter worse. In such a situation, it was unimaginable to offer a permanent UNSC seat to China. On contrary, India deserved it all. India was offered UNSC seat but due to his incapabilties, that Moron threw away that opportunity and even suggested China as the most suitable contender owing to its largest population. But you converted Missionary can never understand the truth. You people sold your religion for a handful of benefits....what's big deal in selling your country also. You will always support Nehru, no matter what. For you nation comes last, your petty Missionaries and tyrant activities come first.
Amit,Shubham patel ,Prashant Singh It not the population growth,not A Bomb threat to any country, moreover India in 2020 & Modi & Amit Shah Government can not claim to be the premantent representative in UN. Look at your face in mirror what you are now,Bharat,Hindustan,Ram Janam Bhumi,what you call yourself ? why you treat minorities as NRC/CAA what does it mean.Slove your internal & external problems with neiboughering countries. The present hostile situation of India can not be given any seat as permanent seat to UN.Why there is riot in India ? .They always dueal or hypocratic role from separation from 1948.Japan,Turkey,Indonesia,Germany may be conssidered as one of the position as permanent representative of UN.Not India, sorry,Time goes round comes round.Slove the problem of neiboughering countries..It will be like Donald Trump result ? Hah hah hah
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It wasn't a mistake, it was to show how much self respect India carries. We deserve to be on UNSC due to our standing in the world not because some Powerful country snatched crumbs from others mouth and threw at us. We're not beggars.
@divineslaughter Nehru may've made some mistakes but calling him a stooge would be the worst thing one could do. It's due to him along with leaders like Sardar that we're living in a democratic country still. India carrying on its democracy despite all the hardships it has faced is still called a wonder , thank them that they laid a strong Foundation. As far as Modi is concerned, he is a grain of Sand in front of such tall leaders - sustaining on demagoguery , nothing else but rhetoric thus taking country into slumber. Had anyone like of Modi been at the helm during Independence, then God save our Country.
Sab Tak Starting schools isn’t a big thing. That’s what you’re supposed to do running a country. India is not Jihadi state porkistan. Don’t compare India with terrorists.
@@Mahesh-rb8xf for any country which is the first thing which should be provided to people? It's educate. You are saying that starting school is easy then why Pakistan can't do. It might be easy but he made world class institutes. India's relation in good with most of the countries because of him, similarly he wanted to make a nice bond with china. He was not able so see future you might. If you do something spacial for your friend & he does Betrayal to you. Will you say it's your fault?
@divineslaughter do you know just IIT passout working in other countries send 19 billion dollars every year. India is biggest export of IT industry. Flipkart has provided jobs to many peoples. There are much more than this. I am not here to tell what IIT & NIT has done. I just wanted to tell that our condition could same as Pakistan or even worse than that but we are in better that them in almost everything. So have to give nehru. See we are not politicians BJP will will blame congress but Congress could not, because there was no existence of BJP in politics and in freedom. By the way I am not fan of Nehru, but you have to appreciated if someone has done something right.
Economic growth with 10% for a decade is a key to become a permanent member of UN
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Wrong. India needs same number of Nukes as Russia. Its the bombs that counts not the economy. If economy was a criteria Japan and Germany would be there. Russia won't be.
@ russia or say Soviet Union was the only threat at mid 90s for the western world . Thats why UN was created . If russia had declined then there would have been no UN. UNs first priority was to stop wars. Now russia has become irrelevant somehow due to their economical collapse. Now greatest threat for the west is china. Not due to its military or nukes but due to its economy. Understand.
UNSC & permanent seat for India
Introduction
* India, which represents one sixth of the global population, has a rightful claim to the permanent membership of the United Nation's Security Council.
* Delivering a joint G4 statement on behalf of Brazil, Germany, India and Japan, India's Permanent Representative in 2016 stated that the grouping was eager for a forward discussion on UNSC permanent membership and reforms.
Need for the move
* India-Founding member
* Peacekeeping operations leader
* ICJ
* Soft power-International yoga day
Impediments
* Japan, Germany- declining candidacy
* China’s opposition to japan
* Germany opposed by Spain, Italy & France
* Brazil-opposition from Argentina, Mexico
* China’s call to India to leave G-4
India & China
* Wuhan- not to discuss-Dalai Lama, border disputes, pak
India & pak
* GDP of pak less than that of Maharashtra
Way Forward
* Managing the transition
* Xi’s upcoming visit
* France supports India
Conclusion
Lots of things are happening in economy of China, pak & other countries involved and also in India with the Kashmir issue. All eyes are on the upcoming Xi’s visit because they being biggest opposer of India on the table
.But let’s not forget UNGA session is going to take place in September. Hopefully India would be part of P-6 whether it would be part of P-5 or not
Please carry on with this...this helps me a lot
#Correction : under impediments last point make it G-4. (G-5 is in terms of emerging economies where china itself is a member.)
Indian should more focus in its EDUCATION rather than anything else.why Israel have no desire bcz they have good education which leads better technology and people sense of responsibility towards nation. Duniya kevl majbut ki sath deti h.
BOB MINION thank you !
Gdp of pak is less than mumbai 😆😆😂😂 bro you are living legend ✊
Let's grow at 10℅ for 10 years and they will ask us to join.
Best way forward to get into elite group.
And to grow at such level every individual must do ones best.
Once we able to make our population productive there will be fantastic results.
I am sure in my life time india will make it possible to get there.
Jai Hind.
This was the crux of the discussion
Probably Manmohan knew we never gonna attain 10% growth ever let alone 10 years 😂
@@chaitanyacg1250 we can. China was growing at 15% in its peak years. 10% isnt that difficult but govt needs to get its priorities straight
Gaurav Tanwar I hear in the news that global recession is on its way starting in 2020
@@chaitanyacg1250 slowdown has arrived but recession can still be avoided. Indian govt is not even able to take advantage of trade war !
UNSC & permanent seat for India
Introduction:
India has one-sixth of the global population and is one of the founding members.
India has always respected the institution and participated in it.
Delivering a joint G4 statement on behalf of Brazil, Germany, India, and Japan, India's Permanent Representative in 2016 stated that the grouping was eager for a forward discussion on UNSC permanent membership and reforms.
In reality, there is a decline of the west.
Need for the move:
A leader in Peacekeeping operations
Upholder of principles and credentials.
India's clout in the UN has increased, eg: election of an Indian in ICJ.
International yoga day with 177 countries.
Impediments:
India is opposed by China and Pakistan
Germany is opposed by UK, France, Spain, and Italy.
Brazil opposed by Argentina, Mexico.
African countries haven't come up with a candidate.
India has been following its own policy. As in the case of bombings in Libya, where India had opposed initially and then abstained in the vote.
All the P5 countries have their own angularities.
China’s urge to India to leave G-4
UK, US, and France will not cede that the west is on a decline.
Japan's inclusion is facing problems as its economic clout is declining and China is opposing strongly.
China's role:
China in its own perception has equated India with Pakistan. Pakistan is its tool.
China on the behest of Pakistan called for informal consultations.
Wuhan warmth was considered temporary.
Wuhan summit did not discuss-Dalai Lama, border disputes, Pakistan issues.
China is more or less isolated in UNSC. As in the case of Hafiz Saeed.
India & Pakistan:
GDP of Pakistan less than that of Mumbai
Even China is finding it difficult to bail out Pakistan.
Way Forward:
France is supporting openly.
America plays a different game altogether.
Managing the transition
Xi’s upcoming visit in October.
UNGA session is going to take place in September and hopefully, India would be part of P-6 whether it would be part of P-5 or not.
If the Indian economy can grow at 10% for 10 years then the members will ask India to be a member.
India should not over-invest in it.
Thankyou :)
Just one correction- GDP of Mumbai is not greater than Pakistan but GDP of Maharashtra is greater than Pakistan. GDP of Mumbai is $386 billion in PPP terms and people often compares it with Nominal GDP of a state or a country like Pakistan. For example, Pakistan's GDP in PPP is over $1 Trillion. So, Its like Mumbai's $368 billion vs Pakistan's $1.19 trillion. So, Maharashtra as a whole state beats Pakistan by a huge margin with NOMINAL GDP of $420 billion (Mumbai is around $160 billion) vs Pakistan's NOMINAL GDP is around $278 billion.
@@tusharrrrrr I have one little out the context question why google shows PPP of the countries when I search "per capita income" of any country, Are they same?
@@abhishekanshuwali3808 That's how google is designed. It extracts information through a particular source. So the 1st place it looks for when the keywords like GDP is used is the world bank and it shows us whatever world bank feeds it easily. Also, World bank have data available in PPP as well as Nominal but it don't mention the word "nominal". So, If you search for nominal per capita income, it won't be able to fetch info from worldbank and will look somewhere else. Sometimes such results are outdated too. So, Always go inside the site and check for the information.
First of all, India is not a founding member of the United Nations. The United Nations was founded in 1945 and India was founded in 1947.
Economic level, if you look at the economic development, Japan and Germany should have got the permanent seat on the Security Council long ago, but China would never have got the permanent seat.
Political level, judging from the fact that many Indians feel that France or USA will support India, I don't think Indians are political enough to be a permanent member. Since the P5 will not support any country to share their own interests, the five countries have a common interest in the power of the permanent members. This is the basic political logic.
So the only way to become a permanent member is war, complete defeat of any one of the P5 by a total war, because the P5 status was obtained by war, but I don't think India will have such military strength in the next few decades.
We should not beg or demand for UNSC seat instead we should be in a position where the world countries expect us to be in UNSC and P5 has no option but to welcome us...that day we should enter the council with full pride....
It's not beg it is our right and we have to get it we are founding member and regional power and in process to be global one rest that we r also one of the biggest contributor to make this organization successful
Sorry that wont happen, keep dreaming Indians
Manmohan Singh told right thing,,if we are economically superpower than no matter that we are permanent member or not in unsc
Kenil Patel Did he really ‘say’ that?
Manmohan Singh never served the nation....for him, Madam was more important than India.
@@dr.abhishekkumar6327 no that's not true,,,he is like bhisma he knows everything but nothing is in his hand,,,he wants India to be economical super power,,,but he knows if he go against Madan he will not be longer PM and his aim is no full fill,,,,
Waste fellow remote controlled pm only drama behind fake gandhi from Italian
@@vkrajuk ode myrr,😌
what a brilliant man S AKBARUDDIN sahab is. just respect. wise man said when life gives u akbaruddin, become sayed not owais.
My god such learned people. Respect 🚩
well, india truely deserves to be selected as a permanent member of UNSC . It represents the largest population of the world, socially, economically and politically also india has a say in MAJOR ISSUES of
today's time.
@divineslaughter can't do so, but Mark my words there will be another war not conventional but asymmetric. There will be a new world order like after WW2 infact if you see such things happened every 50 years we are well over that timeline so it's just a matter of time.
Im really sorry but these claims are Base less that we have been claiming for many years.. not so much effective!
Very informative and intellectual discussion... Thnx RSTV
Economic growth with 10% for a decade is a key to become a permanent member of UN
unfortunately, we will never grow at that pace. We will stumble around 6-9% for decades and might achieve 10% maybe once in a decade but not continuously like china...
@@tusharrrrrr manmohan already achieved that in 2007. India was growing like 12% at that time. But unfortunately we had to face global recession at that time. In 2020 there is again a recession ahead.
@@sorry6726 just for one year... Then next year it went to 3%. Growth during his era was so inconsistent...
Focus should be on strengthening our economy .as Dr. Manmohan Singh suggested that if we grow our gdp 10% for a decade the ultimately India will be parallel to P5 members. There is no need to of spending diplomatic capital just to raise this issue . C Raja Mohan also opines the same.
@Panda King Abe chutiye.. Ur own chaiwala has made our GDP ranking slip from 7 to 6th rank... Our GDP growth rate is coming down to 6% which is lower than manmohan's 8%..
@Panda King Automotive industry is collapsing.. 1 lakh plus people are facing crisis
@Panda King Crores of rupees of foreign investment hv been withdrawn..
@TheChiller007 Abe Bhikhari kahin ke.. Jaa sadak ke side pe hug ke swachh bharat kar..
What about Japan bro see gdp of Japan
pramit pals initial remarks were simply superb .....
On declining UNSC powers vs rising candidates for UNSC - look at the thinking around "Thucydides Trap".
one of my favorite copanalist dr harsh v panth..ty rs for inviting him
Unless India stands up to the world, no one will respect us. In this world, fear has no place. Only strength respects strength.
The success of India in getting the support of the world over Kashmir issue itself proves our acumen and diplomatic victory.... There is no need for UN Certification or to be at the UNSC table
India should support Hong Kong people in their protest in compensation for Permanent seat in United Nation. China too was supported by India for promise to peacefully settle the border issues which China never did rather acted opposite like CPEC and Bhutan chicken neck.
thats what i always think. If china can be a problem for us in issues like Kashmir, why cant we be the problem in their disputed areas like HK or Taiwan Or Xinjiang province.China just made a case for HR violations in Kashmir, We could have done the same for atrocities on Uighurs if we had a permanent seat! Hypocrisy!!
It's a shame world's biggest democracy and secular state doesn't have a place in UNSC.
Agree
Thanks u so much rstv 🙏
If we grow 10%+ every year for 10 years they ask us to do that❤️🎉🥳 😍
I like Pramit Pal talking, he knows his subject and knowledge in the subject matter. Hope I could have personal conversation with you you. Thanks for your views expressed here. You are correct. The UNSC need to reform with the times.
Ppl hv always undermined Dr. Manmohan Singh's acumen on International Affairs Or rather at every crucial issue. But his one line statement regarding UNSC seat sums his clarity, vision and insight on issues like this.
Pramit Pal seriously is dope af on the geo poliical aspect of the world n a UNSC seat, look at how he pointed out the Republican Vs Democrat aspect of them supporting us on UNSC vs NSG etc, very few people will understand or even come up with what he has said and yes he is 100% right.
Manmohan Singh was a visionary leader! He knows that what 10% growth means.
But he never achieve 😂😂
Manmohan wasn't leading - he was sitting on Sonia's lap like a lapdog. The 1st Congress govt was reaping the benefits earned by the previous BJP govt, while the 2nd Congress govt saw a huge economic slowdown, since it was reaping the lacklustre policies of the 1st Congress term in office.
@@manofsan U r right, same i wanted to say but these idiot will only see his degrees
CONGRESS only looted us...Recent Example INX Media Case Chidambram
Manmohan Singh was a very good finance minister under Prime Minister Rao. He could have a good prime minister but he was undermined by Sonia and Rahul Gandhi.
Well, India deserve permanent membership in UNSC because in Asian continent there are lot of issues which tamper Asian people China is not showing desire to solve the issues of Asian region therefore India (democratic country) should be permanent membership
I am Indian but you are wrong this time because Japan is more deserve then India and I not give you resoan you know may be you have knowledge so I ask one question who is more deserve Japan or India ?? You give answer
Thankyou so much sir for Caption
My best friend died on Sunday. In that context, seeing all this.... the world is messed up. It should have been a simple place to live without any competition....where everyone could live peacefully.
Could be better for India to undercut the UN until it's granted a seat. The main requirement for that would be for India to boost its economic power. Also, India could quietly use its influence to encourage others to flout the UN, so that we can indirectly put pressure on the UN without us being directly seen as a violator of it.
I like Frank Rausan for the details he put out and the way he moderates the panel.
Before 2024 We Will Be In Unsc As Permanent Mamber, Take My Word.
no doubt
@@cumulonimbus6714 2046
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India should be more strong internally then ultimately unsc seat will come to its end.
Tq u all sir....for ur wonderful explanation...
Thankyou for the discussion. I agree with the Chief Editor of the Himdustan times when he said that if India focuses on improving itself, the US and the other countries will automatically have to choose India. It is also very much true that sharing the power held will also not be very easy to give. It can only be with complete confidence or with great reluctance internally while knowing that India will deserve a seat. It is time for India to change its focus into growing economically and hold a strong stand point in the Global scheme of Geo and Economic Politics to grow further.
See.. The real thing that matters is power..economic, diplomatic, military, cultural.. If india works hard and gets all these...then you won't have to go to UN to ask for a seat.. The UN will invite you..because the UN p5 members will not want a big power outside of the system.. It could create misjudgement and india not being a part of UN as permanent member will allow india to disregard the consensus achieved by the p5.. India could act anyway it wants and use its eco, diplo and military power to constantly snub the p5 members.. So.. First get the power and then think about permanent seat.
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Yes.. India should be a member of UNSC
India must be a UNSC Permanent member
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At what time daily this show is uploaded on you tube ?
very helpful debet
Jai Hind!Strategy matters:Power Struggle among Nations @IR
Golden line" If we grow at 10% for next 10 years, they are going to call us ."
And keep plenty Agni 5s, s5 class nuke subs in double digit, build hypersonic ballistic missiles in dozens and we are invited with red carpet.
@@rajendranmuthuru1769 Okay, but some may not agree with that.
By that logic even North Korea can claim a UNSC seat.
India has a great population about 17 % of world population ,and it play a great participation in UN peace keeping force , it's world largest democracy which lead a great roll for establishing perfect democracy in any other country unless and untill there is no permanent seat in UNSC it calls totally unjustifiably and narrow thought and it will never achieve it's goal 👍#
It is most imp topic for us and also for world's another country like japan , jarmny , Brazil etc
very informative episode..thnx rstv
It is high time that India gets a seat at the Permanent Members table.
1 out of 6 people are Indians in the world living in more than a 100 countries worldwide.
Some economies like the Gulf states in the Middle East would suffer heavily or would be on brink of collapse if Indians were suddenly removed.
The world economy has improved with the efforts of Indians and Indian-origin citizens in different parts of the world.
We share a diplomatic relation with over 90% of the countries in the world with a population over 250,000 people.
India can stifle China and make them agree to vote for India's inclusion if they twist their arm by disturbing their CPEC investment in Pakistan.
India can't deal with internal issues and near neighbors and aims for UNSC seat
More like me . Can't read for hours with focus but still aiming to crack UPSC CSE.
UNSC seat will help India to control situations from who disturb internal security by external forces so your claim is meaning less.
I think you are wrong...the new india can deal with internal issues very well..look at Kashmir issue...govt took a brilliant move,,,it is new india...india does not care about anyone...about any damn country..
@@avikgupta7813 if anything presented in UNSC against India China will definitely support that based on their own benefits or supporting Pakistan so to oppose that how long India will depend on other countries ? India should get UNSC seat so we will get rid of annoying and disturbing neighbors like China and India. and Yes you said good word India is strong and gave examples that is great but UNSC seat for India definitely important.
@@avikgupta7813 It is just the beginning. Kashmir situation is only going to get worse. Wait and watch
I think India has to continue growing, and if the UN does not recognise India, then India should not recognise the validity of UN resolutions or institutions and should state this clearly but state that they will work inside the UN to promote world peace. India shoiuld only vote in the UN on aspects that are to the benefit of India. India should bypass the UN whenever possible and resolve issues bilaterally. Economic strength is key to power projection.
Hurting all the nations may result in economic sanctions that will make india further poor in todays globalization era.
Give seat of UK (or France) to India
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India can only get into UNSC if the situation plays out like China, Russia, India versus the US, UK, France, this structure can balance things out, and it's good for all mankind in terms of many aspects.
Jawaharlal nee waat laga di desh ki..
INDIA WAS NEVER FORMALLY OFFERED PLACE ON UNSC. INDIA MUST NOW USE BACKBONE DIPLOMACY IN ORDER TO SECURE PLACE ON UNSC.
India need's to grow at 10 to 12% and be a very advanced Technologically country to be among the top 3 countries. If India's growth for a decade grow at avg.10 to 12%.and become's leading Economic Power can claim the right for a seat at a higher table of top 5.
Eric japan say are you joking me bro Japan is all ready powerful and globle economy so what say about Japan 😀😀😀😀
Someone from IBSA (India,Brazil,SouthAfrica) deserves seat ,to start with some form of rotating permanent seat among IBSA countries
NAM or G77 kind of big grouping is the perfect place to show the leadership skills of India
Nah, Only India, Germany and Japan are contenders for permanent seat at UN.
Bro why you are joking this time japan is more deserve you know bro
Perhaps UNSC should be dissolved, makes more sense.
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China : we veto this proposal
Why UNSC not deciding election for the 6 member ??
Every member country has 1 vote
And only most desrving candidate can participate for the next permanent member...
Support if you agree
China : we veto this proposal
Dr Manmohan Singh is a great Visionary and Statesman.
please call pm modi wid respect Mr Pramit pal
I think new international constitution needed
Seat given to everyone and based on people and economy not only just economy
I think
One seat for
India
China
North America
South America
Russia
Europe
Middle East
Africa
Australia
Whether a UN member deserves a permanent seat or not on the UNSC has nothing to do with the issue; it is the UN charter that has decided who is or is not a permanent member. It happens that China will not have India on the high table, and that is all that matters.
Is it raining outside?
No
mast...
ok but with veto or without veto?
Vice President M. Venkaiah Naidu on Monday said that India, which represents one sixth of the global population, has a rightful claim to the permanent membership of the United Nation’s Security Council. One of the key historic reasons for India’s quest for a permanent seat at the UNSC was to ensure protection of national interest in crucial diplomatic moments when the organ takes up issues such as Kashmir. Delivering a joint G4 statement on behalf of Brazil, Germany, India and Japan, India’s Permanent Representative Syed Akbaruddin in 2016 stated that the grouping was eager for a forward discussion on UNSC permanent membership and reforms. Diplomats have blamed China for having quietly carried out a campaign to stop India’s efforts at the UNSC. Veteran diplomats have said that the latest UNSC meeting on Kashmir which was convened following an initiative from China showed that India will have to show more stamina to stop China from using the organ against India’s interest. The issue of expanding the UNSC and the Text Based Negotiation is expected to come up in the next UN General Assembly session in September. On this edition of the big picture we will analyse UNSC reforms and a permanent seat for India
Which was the last show when we saw Frank with clean shave?
Why isn't India among the current ten non permanent members of the UN Security council ? But we are aspiring for permanent membership, this is ironic and though being a proud Indian
India is amoung nations with highest number of nonpermanent position in unsc(7 terms)
Grow at 10 percent for 10 years un Will invite India to join unsc we should continue with our diplomatic mission to reform unsc but not too much if u strong military economic political internally no can stop us from having a seat on high table
Ghanta milega. Get out of UN and pull out Indias Blue helmets peace keepers. Then maybe something can happen.
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This is where India lacks and it has now a daily routine.. Currently as the world is facing an economic war and recession like situation,India itself has hit its economic growth by using unproductive and unattractive economic policies especially post budget this year.
Government has to take this economic slowdown very seriously otherwise nothing will change
What are the impacts in india after having permanent seat should be discussed.
For now at least we have to think about balkanizing pakistan, only then will China yield and give its vote to us for security council.
Chinese only repect power i.e. take back POK & break up pakistan.
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What are the chances that Pakistan becomes a permanent member before India?
-100000%
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What if France willingly divests its veto power by granting 15% stake each to Germany, India, Japan and Brazil?
Germany and Japan have been historical agressors. There is no way they will get a P-seat. But Brazil can get it to represent South American population but it can tilt balance of power of South America in favour of Brazil only at the cost of its neighbours.
Until completion of cpec it seem hard for India to take favour from china on this.they already blocked India from entry in nsg.
Can't we by-pass this UNSC and form new international institution...
I mean just 5 f....king countries have veto powers to have control over international things...!
I think many countries would support to form better institution then UNSC it may not be simple as that but not impossible right?
India should stop pandering to China....it has never raised its voice against China since 1950s
But what else can we expect...when Ministry of External affairs is helmed by an ex-ambassador to China, even the secretary of the ministry, VK Gokhale is an ex-ambassador to China
I am 101% sure India wouldnt raise its voice against what is happening in Tibet, Hong Kong and Xinjiang!
Shame on you MEA!
what is p6
The permanent members must be the top in the world.Unfortunately, India isnt
*Opening lines were copied from the Hindu*
Become economic power no one can stop you
UK and France will leave their seat like they decolonise the India.
Then what happened with Japan ? Can you tell me please
@@reconquistahinduism346 no I'm saying Britain and France international involvement is becoming more less and less, they don't want to intermediate any international dispute, they will give up their seats no matter what the cost.. because they can't afford same goes to British raj
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@@musicskp it's okay.. good luck
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You should forget that dream.
18:16 :P :P :P Paxtan - a black hole.
India should boikot un...
Upsc walo padh lo
But why are you debate this topic everyman is know Japan is more deserve then India and everybody who knows
Have you ever won a big war against other permanent countries ? If no , I am sorry India don’t have qualification to join, every permanent country is the winner in the WW2, they represent for the justice, but India just colony of UK .
That isn't a criteria to get UNSC permanent seat. Thing is India represents 1/6th of human population which dosen't have a permanent representative in UNSC. Secondly, India contributed largest number of peace keeping force to UN.
China too didn't won any big war against any of colonisers or super powers plus they were too poor at the time when they become member of UNSC.
What will happen if india boikot un...???
Not feasible
khudi ko Kar buland itna ki khuda tujse khud puche...... . Beta Teri Reza Kya h ?.... don't worrie apena time aayega
Why we are going for that seat .we have scare resources we should use it properly .Even C rajamohan says no need to go with that seat.
2 mins of silence for Nehru followers....your Godfather had given China the permanent seat in UNSC.
Actually seat was never offered to india. www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehindu.com/news/national/jawaharlal-nehru-on-permanent-unsc-membership-no-question-of-a-seat-being-offered-and-india-declining-it/article26536197.ece/amp/
Now its upto us we want to believe it or not
@@arpittripathi2945 I always doubt The Hindu's journalism. @www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/defence/why-india-missed-a-seat-on-the-un-security-council/amp_articleshow/69172867.cms
@john doe China was a dictator Communist regime in the 60s whereas India was a democratic nation. No country had approved the legitimacy of Communist government in China. In fact, your Great grandfather Nehru was the first to recognise the communist regime as a legitimate one. China was going through internal turmoil at that time and the annexation of Tibet made the matter worse. In such a situation, it was unimaginable to offer a permanent UNSC seat to China. On contrary, India deserved it all. India was offered UNSC seat but due to his incapabilties, that Moron threw away that opportunity and even suggested China as the most suitable contender owing to its largest population.
But you converted Missionary can never understand the truth. You people sold your religion for a handful of benefits....what's big deal in selling your country also.
You will always support Nehru, no matter what. For you nation comes last, your petty Missionaries and tyrant activities come first.
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It not the population growth,not A Bomb threat to any country, moreover India in 2020 & Modi & Amit Shah Government can not claim to be the premantent representative in UN.
Look at your face in mirror what you are now,Bharat,Hindustan,Ram Janam Bhumi,what you call yourself ? why you treat minorities as NRC/CAA what does it mean.Slove your internal & external problems with neiboughering countries. The present hostile situation of India can not be given any seat as permanent seat to UN.Why there is riot in India ? .They always dueal or hypocratic role from separation from 1948.Japan,Turkey,Indonesia,Germany may be conssidered as one of the position as permanent representative of UN.Not India, sorry,Time goes round comes round.Slove the problem of neiboughering countries..It will be like Donald Trump result ? Hah hah hah
nehru rejected the UNSC permanent seat membership.
@Albert Dacosta bro it's true but I don't blame Nehru for that because that time India's condition was very weak
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Nehru chutiyas mistakes our country is suuffering Today
It wasn't a mistake, it was to show how much self respect India carries.
We deserve to be on UNSC due to our standing in the world not because some Powerful country snatched crumbs from others mouth and threw at us.
We're not beggars.
@@bmu7388 Take your WhatsApp BS anywhere else please.
Nehru was busy with mountbaten wife
@divineslaughter Nehru may've made some mistakes but calling him a stooge would be the worst thing one could do.
It's due to him along with leaders like Sardar that we're living in a democratic country still.
India carrying on its democracy despite all the hardships it has faced is still called a wonder , thank them that they laid a strong Foundation.
As far as Modi is concerned, he is a grain of Sand in front of such tall leaders - sustaining on demagoguery , nothing else but rhetoric thus taking country into slumber.
Had anyone like of Modi been at the helm during Independence, then God save our Country.
Nehru may've had a Western lifestyle as he was educated there, it had its pros and cons but he was Humbled enough under the leadership of Gandhi.
Not in a million years. You keep harping and the result will be the same.
Seems like Nehru’s mistakes will haunt us forever.
It's not good to blame nehru for everything. India is better than Pakistan. It's major credit goes to Nehru. He started IITs and NITs.
@@sabtak8197 true
Sab Tak Starting schools isn’t a big thing. That’s what you’re supposed to do running a country. India is not Jihadi state porkistan. Don’t compare India with terrorists.
@@Mahesh-rb8xf for any country which is the first thing which should be provided to people? It's educate. You are saying that starting school is easy then why Pakistan can't do. It might be easy but he made world class institutes. India's relation in good with most of the countries because of him, similarly he wanted to make a nice bond with china. He was not able so see future you might. If you do something spacial for your friend & he does Betrayal to you. Will you say it's your fault?
@divineslaughter do you know just IIT passout working in other countries send 19 billion dollars every year. India is biggest export of IT industry. Flipkart has provided jobs to many peoples. There are much more than this. I am not here to tell what IIT & NIT has done. I just wanted to tell that our condition could same as Pakistan or even worse than that but we are in better that them in almost everything. So have to give nehru. See we are not politicians BJP will will blame congress but Congress could not, because there was no existence of BJP in politics and in freedom. By the way I am not fan of Nehru, but you have to appreciated if someone has done something right.
Economic growth with 10% for a decade is a key to become a permanent member of UN
Wrong. India needs same number of Nukes as Russia. Its the bombs that counts not the economy. If economy was a criteria Japan and Germany would be there. Russia won't be.
@ russia or say Soviet Union was the only threat at mid 90s for the western world . Thats why UN was created . If russia had declined then there would have been no UN. UNs first priority was to stop wars. Now russia has become irrelevant somehow due to their economical collapse. Now greatest threat for the west is china. Not due to its military or nukes but due to its economy. Understand.