Electric vehicles have been around for well over 100 years. Interestingly, there has hardly been any innovation since they first appeared. The oil industry has worked hard to make them fail- even though they work great for specific applications and economies. Follow the corporate money... they will do anything under the Sun to keep you as a customer, including murder and war. All by design, my friend.
This is a fascinating business! But I really want to point out what an amazing interviewer Imogen is. She's not just done the prep, she's turned up with pages of notes, she's making new notes throughout the interview and considering every question and answer carefully. The result is interviews that are polished, engaging and really get into the details.
...and a run-down of its components & the thought processes which designed them. The cab for instance looks like it was inspired by the plywood Africar.
Love the video. First heard it as a podcast on my bike (seemed appropriate) and replayed it to see the truck. Very interesting idea and you can imagine this in so many more places but the staring location seems legit.
I've been saying for years, "Fully Changed look what is happening in Africa." So much is happening in the everything electric space over there. Yes, Imogen, send Jack to cover electric taxi bikes in Rwanda it'll be funny watching him get on the pillion seat.
@@t1n4444fuel cells are worth monitoring but they're not serious yet, nor is the hydrogen required to use them. Maybe it will happen one day. I would expect an initial large market to be industrial vehicles where the vehicle never in its life travels more than a few hundred metres from its fuelling point.
Big props to Simon, Rwanda deserves love, it is extraordinarily beautiful and it challenges all assumptions about Africa. They banned plastic bags in Rwanda, they have car free days, they have community days when everyone does 'barn raising' and their leader is fantastic. Long live plucky Rwanda and I hope Simon succeeds is the beautiful jewel of Africa that is Rwanda.
such a refreshing interview. Go Go Go. Disrupt and change the game - It is shameful how blind leadership has been Europeans in Bed with Fossil fuel guys too long- but here we see people opening the game to people far away! Love It!
@@jonathanmelhuish4530 Once this outfit has built them that is. Otherwise what is the point of showing us vehicle after vehicle that exists only on paper and a few mock ups to show the money men in a bid for funding. As others have suggested the money men are interested in a profit. It begs the question why we didn't learn of the money provided by the Rwandan Government. Given UK provided quite a wad of cash for taking UK's illegal immigrants the Rwandans can't be that hard up? Why aren't the Rwandans investing in their own future? And if they are then why was it not mentioned much earlier?
@@t1n4444 Did you not hear about the produce they are now hauling from farm to market? Did you not hear how the Rwandan government is supporting this endeavor? Listen again. Or for the first time.
There's some basic video on their web site. It would be nice to see a longer version including both in-country assembly and running an actual pick up and delivery.
I agree with many comments regarding Imogen as an interviewer. Unlike many interviewers she listens and leaves the interviewee lots of time to explain. Well done.
Super rare. Most make their questions in their office and then read them one by one and have no knowledge or time to do follow-up questions based on the answers they get! 😢
Thank you for allowing us to putting the spotlight ron this wonderfully smart business. I love that the business is about transforming people's lives by using new tech in new business models. "Electric Uber for potatoes" might be a better description. More of this please Fully Charged!!!
This is possibly one of the most positive & inspiring things I’ve seen n quite some time. This business is one I would invest in. The m glad that Innovate U.K. did so. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Interesting show. The focus here is not the flatbed EV truck, but delivering an affordable for the farmer service end product which gets the farmers product to his point of sale location on a low cost profitable manor. He has looked at that service and came up with a way of satisfying that need. This roller skate EV truck design is a method he hopes and is planning to make work. And in so doing, generate a profitable revenue stream for that service. And it possibly can be made to work. The truck challenge is to obtain and put into service a truck capable of meeting his challenges. Two major technology sticking points are the long term durability, sustainability and availability of the batteries, supporting electronics and wiring. (Seems like critters chowing down on environmentally correct electrical wiring is a thing.) and EV batteries are very expensive, heavy and dangerous if miss handled.) currently, it’s a major issue to support electronics once they surpass 5 to 10 years of service because of obsolescence. Imagine supporting all that battery management technology 10 to 15 years from now. Old diesels are a piece of cake by comparison.
Fascinating. There's some really good thinking in this business project. I'm sure that the spin-off for vehicle optimisation will also be invaluable. When you own and run a vehicle that needs to have an operational availability near to 100% it's certainly going to give you the necessary focus to ensure a high quality, long lived, easy to repair, cheap to repair EV. We now need a follow up with some video of the vehicles working in Africa and some details on the construction. I see that prototypes of the OX have been around since 2016 (in non EV form) so we should expect a mature platform.
Great to see a push to support the development of African nations and heartened to hear how they are seeing the advantage of leapfrogging the outdated technology. I fear in the 'developed' nations we are too mired in the attachment to our historical achievements (and squeezing profit out of existing models) to see the benefit of joining the revolution ourselves.
A fascinating discussion and absolutely proves how different markets need very different things. It also shows we can't just assume everyone has the same options to do business or get travel. Imogen has smashed another amazing interview onto our screens.
🙋♂️THANKS IMOGEN FOR SHARING “OX DELIVERS “ WE LOVE ❤️ THE WHOLE PROGRAM AND THE PROGRESS THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE ,AND THEY HAVE THE PROPER MOTIVE 🤗🔋🔋🔋
This is not a lot different from what I do with my business driving for Amish transporting people, cargo,mail, all kinds of things combined into one trip as efficiently as possible so all our contributing making it cheaper overall… it’s been interesting Seeing how delivery works here in the United States and I operate Different than most because I combine more types of deliveries into one vehicle and I think that is key to making business successful. By the way, I also use electric vehicles for a large share of my transportation!
@@SeekingBeautifulDesign I don’t worry about being loaded in both directions I prioritize the urgency of the calls and combine whatever I can! when I get several calls in close proximity…however driving for Amish I get approximately 10 to 15 calls per day. Many I cannot do because I’m simply too busy, so usually my trips are fairly short 30 to 60 miles one way so empty one way is no problem. However, many times I even get phone calls when I am driving that I have to pull over for and can add to the same trip that I’m actually on at the moment.
What an excellent interview! The questions were insightful, and I really liked that you talked about the business model itself, not just about the technology.
One of the most informative episodes to date. To often its all about Europe, the far east or NA, little attention given to continents like Africa, and SA. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for shining a light on OX Delivers. Everything about their approach is spot on with what developing economies need: Flat-pack delivery, As-A-Service and electrification as a packaged, managed offering. Imogen, if _Everything Electric/Fully Charged_ do go to Rwanda for more on OX Delivers, be sure to visit with Zipline, as well. They've been revolutionizing just-in-time last-mile delivery with autonomous, electric drones since 2016; delivering time-critical medical supplies to remote locations, saving lives by saving hours vs. terrestrial transport.
What a fantastic story Imogen that is truly inspiring and has push me to think more about my own business model ideas. Love to see this operation in action for those Rwanda farmers. This could really make a difference in those peoples lives. Can't wait to see it actually!!!
Would be great hto also hear about the Kenian motorcycle company he mentioned! I saw a German documentary about them, and I thnk they would make a great episode here on the podcast!
Took me a while to understand, and suddenly, the light ✨️ 💡 bulb moment "Amazing" rarely we look outside our backyards to see what other people need around the world.❤
Wonderful episode. @FullyCharged yes please - show the vehicle at work. Also talk a bit more (numbers) about how the local/regional African economy is improving due to this improvement of commodity logistics. (you pointed out how someone is going to buy a house, the impact will be much greater going to 10,000 clients)
I just like this guy he says things the way they are. from Kenya. When you visit Africa you will start to understand more about African countries. probably you should do a show in an African country
Excellent video. The website shows the trucks in action. I'd love to see a time lapse video or something similar on unpacking and building a truck. I don't think they'll have any problem "mobilizing capital" after this video is published. Simon did a great sales job!
Another fantastic video, quite humbling the UK is doing a great job. Looking forward to the fully charged Ruanda episode. Taking over from the TG boys!
Logistics is one of Africa's biggest issues, those efficiency gains are insane! Imagine replicating that all over the contient how much more food would Africians have?
@EverythingElectricShow two suggestions for podcast episodes: 1. The Kenian motorcycle company mentioned in this episode, who actually constructed a motorcycle for the African market. 2. The @electrictrucker from Germany, who is driving BEV articulated trucks long distance and shows it works very well and trucker love them, and they are massively cheaper to run than Diesel.
What is "flat-packing" ? Now I have to look this up. It seems like "flat-packing" is packing the vehicles in England so they can be easily assembled in Rwanda. Like an IKEA of vehicles.
Yes, what IKEA do is called "flat packing" in the UK. Literally packing the items as flat as possible, so they take up the most minimal space, and then re-assembling them when delivered. So, from the video, they said they're actually able to compact that vehicle down - in "flat pack" form - to be able to shift 6 vehicles in a single storage container. Which is impressive, as I'm not sure you could even fit two (and certainly no more than two) in a storage container otherwise.
He also mentioned *CKD* (Completely Knocked Down) which is where the item is fully built & tested then partially dismantled for shipping, again usually piled up.
It’s called CDK (completely knocked down kit) the mfr sends the vehicle as a kit that is assembled in the destination country. It’s a clever way of getting around import taxes. They’ve been doing it for years.
This is a fresh look at how to bring benefit to those who cannot afford vital transportation services...I know this vehicle is not going on sale, but it would be interesting to see a short video on the capabilities and practical uses of their truck.
Brilliant development I have been a long time supporter of Practical Action which is all about appropriate development to developing nations has to work locally I am delighted that like Phoenix this project has arisen out of the ashes of our once mighty car industry.
That was a slick podcast. It gave me some useful insight into how to build a successful business. And.. these types of vehicles can then do V2G when they are parked up overnight, once they have a stable power grid. That, plus houses or barns with solar on top and you have a full circle in terms of energy supply and energy security.
The path of flat packing gradually leading to manufacturing, is something BBC did a video on in West Africa (Nigeria) a few years ago. They used to import whole motorcycles from Japan. One import realized that most of his shipping fees were for shipping air. So he bought parts instead of assembled bikes and could sell them cheaper than his competitors at a higher profit after assembling them. When his competitors copied his business model, he looked for parts that could be manufactured in Nigeria. The plastic mouldings on the bikes are what he started with.
That was a great podcast Imogen! I would love for you to do a follow up in Rwanda. It would be interesting to learn about the vehicle in depth, and just how they made it so durable, does it have trick suspension! Are the tyres special? It's clear the road building companies need to get involved in Rwanda in an imaginative way, can they improve roads that connect the smaller villages without impacting on the natural beauty and with minimum Co2 costs. Isn't there a technology for shredding old tyres into tiny rubber bits that can be used for resurfacing. We have vast tyre mountains! If the Romans could build roads a thousand years ago actually in an eco friendly way, can't we now do better?
Reminds me very much of the old (and hopelessly failed) Africar project. He said he pitched the idea to Land Rover 😂. Can you even imagine Land Rover trying to make a simple, cheap, and easily repairable utility vehicle? They gave up that idea decades ago to make pointlessly heavy cars for silly rich people.
Toyota used to test and design special rugged models for Kenya. I knew someone one of their managers in the 1980s (who also ran the Safari Rally). But that only works for new imports, or secondhand models imported from other countries with bad roads.
It looks like an overgrown Steyr/Daimler/Puch *Haflinger* - one of my favourite tiny vehicles, the yellow one in the background might even have the portal axles 😊
Refreshing, makes a lot of sense. Love the no frills, built to last, reuse-aesthetics. Not sure about the Uber reference though, as Uber have an exploitative business track record. What is the ownership model of Ox Delivers platform? Big private investors only? What level of ownership or sovereignty can communities have over/in the provider platform? How open source is the tech? It looks open source, but is it?
Plans to make a bus version? Or use the existing truck as a people hauler. In underdeveloped countries it's common to see trucks fitted out with simple wooden benches in the beds and used as buses. I've ridden many miles that way. In Thailand, for example, the songthaew (two bench) is a small pickup with a wooden bench fitted on each side of the bed. A very common way to travel around for small money. Often the benches will be full of people and the space between full of the stuff people are taking to or from the market.
I would like to see people owning small city sized vehicles and renting the large vehicle on the rare occasions that they need it. (A great size for a city EV is a bike.)
A friend of mine runs a cargo bike in London but she comes home every day with tales of how at least one car has endangered her life, she's often late home because she's had to come back via the hospital & the bike mender 😢 (It's almost always cars, never lorries & rarely vans)
I've been riding a Ebike in London for years, for me it's one of the most convenient way's of getting from a to b, with no issues with other road users.
Amazing story. If only 1st World countries could adopt this model and thinking. It is significant that an emerging economy is leading the way in adopting EVs because they don't have ICE based vehicles to replace.
It's great to see people trying to help in Africa. However this business model is fishy to me based on what's discussed here. There are vans and trucks in Africa, owned and operated by local people. Everyone has a phone. It's possible for a local operator to create a uber type potato (or whatever goods need to be transported) app or 2G mobile based (SMS or phone call) service. It could simply put farmers in touch with drivers, and allow people to book a slot to have their goods delivered. The barrier to entry for this is incredibly low. So (1) why can local / africa based entrepeneurs not set this up and run it more cheaply than anyone from abroad possibly could - there seems to be no magic sauce or IP needed here that I can discern. and (2) why therefore is a UK-made flat pack electric truck required at all to make this business model work. As a standalone proposition (the truck) - is it realistic that a UK based low volume truck manufacturer can possibly complete with low cost vehicle manufacture in Africa itself, India, or China. The only way I could see it working is if there are development aid schemes which subsidise this process - in which case, it could become an exercise in "milking" development subsidies, and grants rather than actually creating a viable truck business in itself. Now, if it is true that the OX4 truck really is more economical to acquire and operate than an imported HiLux (or whatever) used truck in Africa, then it makes sense. If that's true then I'm surprised OX hasn't been acquired already an expanding massively, as such a vehicle would be an absolute game-changer in many parts of the world. Simon seems like a decent chap, and I'm sure he's got commendable motives. I totally buy the transport-as-a-service concept, but I don't necessary get the business case for an (almost certainly) expensive flat-build truck, except as a "vehicle" for applying for development grants and subsidies. I wish them best of luck - but I wish the interview had really probed the financial business case around the truck.
He says the goal is to have them built in Rwanda, the trucks arriving as CKDs will be to let the local constructor get experience of assembling then building more complex parts until they are able to build them locally. That is a fairly common process around the world. Yes, the rest of it seems to be a bit dodgy.
EV's are expensive, as much because of all of the fancy "kit" that's included as much as the batteries. I doubt if these trucks will have aircon, GPS, traffic sensors, multi adjustable seats fitted. Minimal design costs for fancy infotainment software and attractive styling. Also flat packing and assembling in Rwanda reduces labour costs for manufacture considerably. China already shows how cheaply basic, functional EV's can be made.
This is what I thought, it very much sounds like a logistics company that is building a purpose built vehicle because over the long term the TCO will be lower. By building it to be serviceable and low cost to run means they can offer lower transport costs. It sounds like part of the value add is the ability to book the slots using messaging to make it simpler, so the special sauce is perhaps tying it all together into a single business model.
This is what I love most about Fully Charged. Seeing very clever people doing really positive things.
Electric vehicles have been around for well over 100 years. Interestingly, there has hardly been any innovation since they first appeared. The oil industry has worked hard to make them fail- even though they work great for specific applications and economies.
Follow the corporate money... they will do anything under the Sun to keep you as a customer, including murder and war.
All by design, my friend.
This is a fascinating business! But I really want to point out what an amazing interviewer Imogen is. She's not just done the prep, she's turned up with pages of notes, she's making new notes throughout the interview and considering every question and answer carefully. The result is interviews that are polished, engaging and really get into the details.
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Imogen is such a polished presenter and engaging interviewer.
Engaging, yes very, but I find that's because of the _lack_ of polish whilst still fully understanding what she's talking about.
She was offered a diamond ring at one point.😂
Great video - would have really liked to have seen the vehicle in action. Maybe next time?
...and a run-down of its components & the thought processes which designed them. The cab for instance looks like it was inspired by the plywood Africar.
They have, some time ago, you'll have to do a search to find the episode.
Love the video. First heard it as a podcast on my bike (seemed appropriate) and replayed it to see the truck. Very interesting idea and you can imagine this in so many more places but the staring location seems legit.
Yeppers. Scrolled through 35 minutes, and the van never moved. XP
I've been saying for years, "Fully Changed look what is happening in Africa." So much is happening in the everything electric space over there. Yes, Imogen, send Jack to cover electric taxi bikes in Rwanda it'll be funny watching him get on the pillion seat.
I've been saying for years to explore hydrogen fuel cells, so good luck with that, then 😂😂😂
@@t1n4444fuel cells are worth monitoring but they're not serious yet, nor is the hydrogen required to use them. Maybe it will happen one day.
I would expect an initial large market to be industrial vehicles where the vehicle never in its life travels more than a few hundred metres from its fuelling point.
why was my comment deleted? 😮
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Who knows?
You might have upset a fanbois or your comment didn't fit the narrative?
It's true. Several African countries are putting the west to shame on EV use, drone delivery, environmentally friendly power generation....
Big props to Simon, Rwanda deserves love, it is extraordinarily beautiful and it challenges all assumptions about Africa. They banned plastic bags in Rwanda, they have car free days, they have community days when everyone does 'barn raising' and their leader is fantastic. Long live plucky Rwanda and I hope Simon succeeds is the beautiful jewel of Africa that is Rwanda.
That's the good stuff... "Not about trim levels" loved it 😊 forget about charity, create a win/win. Time well spent.
such a refreshing interview. Go Go Go. Disrupt and change the game - It is shameful how blind leadership has been Europeans in Bed with Fossil fuel guys too long- but here we see people opening the game to people far away! Love It!
One of the best episodes yet! Simon is clearly a systems man able to look at the big picture. We need politicians like him.
Hats off to Simon Davis & the OX team! This is an incredible, wise, generous & forward thinking project. I wish them every success!
Love the goal of building things to last and be repaired/upgraded rather than replaced. Wish we could do the same for appliances and such.
Even better than flying to Rwanda, you could hire a local camera crew to shoot an episode showing their vehicles in action? I'd love to watch that.
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Once this outfit has built them that is.
Otherwise what is the point of showing us vehicle after vehicle that exists only on paper and a few mock ups to show the money men in a bid for funding.
As others have suggested the money men are interested in a profit.
It begs the question why we didn't learn of the money provided by the Rwandan Government.
Given UK provided quite a wad of cash for taking UK's illegal immigrants the Rwandans can't be that hard up?
Why aren't the Rwandans investing in their own future?
And if they are then why was it not mentioned much earlier?
@@t1n4444
Did you not hear about the produce they are now hauling from farm to market? Did you not hear how the Rwandan government is supporting this endeavor? Listen again. Or for the first time.
There's some basic video on their web site. It would be nice to see a longer version including both in-country assembly and running an actual pick up and delivery.
Brilliant idea
@@bobwallace9753 It sounded like they are currently trialling the model using diesel pick up trucks.
This surely hits the top 10 best ever interviews!!! I am retired, live in Rwanda and am absolutely DELIGHTED to learn of OX's enterprise ....
I agree with many comments regarding Imogen as an interviewer. Unlike many interviewers she listens and leaves the interviewee lots of time to explain. Well done.
Super rare. Most make their questions in their office and then read them one by one and have no knowledge or time to do follow-up questions based on the answers they get! 😢
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Thank you for allowing us to putting the spotlight ron this wonderfully smart business. I love that the business is about transforming people's lives by using new tech in new business models. "Electric Uber for potatoes" might be a better description. More of this please Fully Charged!!!
I really hope this venture is successful!
This is possibly one of the most positive & inspiring things I’ve seen n quite some time. This business is one I would invest in. The m glad that Innovate U.K. did so. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Interesting show. The focus here is not the flatbed EV truck, but delivering an affordable for the farmer service end product which gets the farmers product to his point of sale location on a low cost profitable manor. He has looked at that service and came up with a way of satisfying that need.
This roller skate EV truck design is a method he hopes and is planning to make work. And in so doing, generate a profitable revenue stream for that service. And it possibly can be made to work.
The truck challenge is to obtain and put into service a truck capable of meeting his challenges. Two major technology sticking points are the long term durability, sustainability and availability of the batteries, supporting electronics and wiring. (Seems like critters chowing down on environmentally correct electrical wiring is a thing.) and EV batteries are very expensive, heavy and dangerous if miss handled.) currently, it’s a major issue to support electronics once they surpass 5 to 10 years of service because of obsolescence. Imagine supporting all that battery management technology 10 to 15 years from now. Old diesels are a piece of cake by comparison.
Fascinating. There's some really good thinking in this business project. I'm sure that the spin-off for vehicle optimisation will also be invaluable. When you own and run a vehicle that needs to have an operational availability near to 100% it's certainly going to give you the necessary focus to ensure a high quality, long lived, easy to repair, cheap to repair EV. We now need a follow up with some video of the vehicles working in Africa and some details on the construction. I see that prototypes of the OX have been around since 2016 (in non EV form) so we should expect a mature platform.
Awesome job by OX Mobility to focus on developing countries and the problems they have there.
Imogen great video keep it up ❤❤
I want this for our farm. Looks so good to repair. Good on Ox Delivers so cool what they do
Great to see a push to support the development of African nations and heartened to hear how they are seeing the advantage of leapfrogging the outdated technology. I fear in the 'developed' nations we are too mired in the attachment to our historical achievements (and squeezing profit out of existing models) to see the benefit of joining the revolution ourselves.
This is excellent. A solution that works for the people doing the work.
A fascinating discussion and absolutely proves how different markets need very different things. It also shows we can't just assume everyone has the same options to do business or get travel. Imogen has smashed another amazing interview onto our screens.
🙋♂️THANKS IMOGEN FOR SHARING “OX DELIVERS “ WE LOVE ❤️ THE WHOLE
PROGRAM AND THE PROGRESS THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE ,AND THEY HAVE THE PROPER MOTIVE 🤗🔋🔋🔋
This is not a lot different from what I do with my business driving for Amish transporting people, cargo,mail, all kinds of things combined into one trip as efficiently as possible so all our contributing making it cheaper overall… it’s been interesting Seeing how delivery works here in the United States and I operate Different than most because I combine more types of deliveries into one vehicle and I think that is key to making business successful. By the way, I also use electric vehicles for a large share of my transportation!
What sort of logistic tools/approaches are you using to make sure every trip is fully loaded in both directions?
@@SeekingBeautifulDesign I don’t worry about being loaded in both directions I prioritize the urgency of the calls and combine whatever I can! when I get several calls in close proximity…however driving for Amish I get approximately 10 to 15 calls per day. Many I cannot do because I’m simply too busy, so usually my trips are fairly short 30 to 60 miles one way so empty one way is no problem. However, many times I even get phone calls when I am driving that I have to pull over for and can add to the same trip that I’m actually on at the moment.
Reminds me of the Africar. I do hope they succeed
I'd wondered what had happened to the OX project, glad to hear it has evolved and is still round.
What an excellent interview! The questions were insightful, and I really liked that you talked about the business model itself, not just about the technology.
One of the most informative episodes to date. To often its all about Europe, the far east or NA, little attention given to continents like Africa, and SA. Keep up the great work.
Another great example where electric vehicles are providing social justice in a clean and cost effective way.
Thank you for shining a light on OX Delivers. Everything about their approach is spot on with what developing economies need: Flat-pack delivery, As-A-Service and electrification as a packaged, managed offering.
Imogen, if _Everything Electric/Fully Charged_ do go to Rwanda for more on OX Delivers, be sure to visit with Zipline, as well. They've been revolutionizing just-in-time last-mile delivery with autonomous, electric drones since 2016; delivering time-critical medical supplies to remote locations, saving lives by saving hours vs. terrestrial transport.
Wow! What an incredible new business model. I just love how much of a positive impact this is having. So refreshing, and just wow!
It's a really innovative idea that helps local people progress in life. Wonderful program, thank you
It is encouraging to hear about a story that is helping people and successful!
What a fantastic story Imogen that is truly inspiring and has push me to think more about my own business model ideas. Love to see this operation in action for those Rwanda farmers. This could really make a difference in those peoples lives. Can't wait to see it actually!!!
Would be great hto also hear about the Kenian motorcycle company he mentioned! I saw a German documentary about them, and I thnk they would make a great episode here on the podcast!
Very impressed, I'm so pleased that I watched this.
Took me a while to understand, and suddenly, the light ✨️ 💡 bulb moment "Amazing" rarely we look outside our backyards to see what other people need around the world.❤
Netflix is definitely overrated 😀 love this video, need more like this. Loved hearing about Greg Jackson's work in Africa too with renewable energy.
Love the idea, the company, how impactful it can be to these people!! Brilliant! So inspiring!! Well done to Ox D! 😊
Awesome!! SO refreshing to see market driven innovation that solves problems and makes peoples lives better.
I found that uplifting to watch, a very enjoyable video.
Great idea
Transformational. The carbon saved in the reduction of food waste is another upside!
Wonderful episode. @FullyCharged yes please - show the vehicle at work. Also talk a bit more (numbers) about how the local/regional African economy is improving due to this improvement of commodity logistics. (you pointed out how someone is going to buy a house, the impact will be much greater going to 10,000 clients)
Awesome outside the box thinking here! Thanks for the video EES Team. 👍
What an incredible business idea. This will really kickstart trade in Africa
Excellent video, thank you, love to see green partnerships between countries like this.
I just like this guy he says things the way they are. from Kenya. When you visit Africa you will start to understand more about African countries. probably you should do a show in an African country
Excellent video. The website shows the trucks in action. I'd love to see a time lapse video or something similar on unpacking and building a truck. I don't think they'll have any problem "mobilizing capital" after this video is published. Simon did a great sales job!
Another fantastic video, quite humbling the UK is doing a great job. Looking forward to the fully charged Ruanda episode. Taking over from the TG boys!
Logistics is one of Africa's biggest issues, those efficiency gains are insane! Imagine replicating that all over the contient how much more food would Africians have?
@EverythingElectricShow two suggestions for podcast episodes:
1. The Kenian motorcycle company mentioned in this episode, who actually constructed a motorcycle for the African market.
2. The @electrictrucker from Germany, who is driving BEV articulated trucks long distance and shows it works very well and trucker love them, and they are massively cheaper to run than Diesel.
Love this! Another excellent episode, and an incredible business supporting other businesses.
What is "flat-packing" ?
Now I have to look this up. It seems like "flat-packing" is packing the vehicles in England so they can be easily assembled in Rwanda.
Like an IKEA of vehicles.
You beat me to it with your comment, in fact the model name could be the i-Kea
Yes, what IKEA do is called "flat packing" in the UK.
Literally packing the items as flat as possible, so they take up the most minimal space, and then re-assembling them when delivered.
So, from the video, they said they're actually able to compact that vehicle down - in "flat pack" form - to be able to shift 6 vehicles in a single storage container.
Which is impressive, as I'm not sure you could even fit two (and certainly no more than two) in a storage container otherwise.
@@klaxoncowshipping containers are 8, 10, 20, 30 or 40 feet long, the size used wasn't specified.
He also mentioned *CKD* (Completely Knocked Down) which is where the item is fully built & tested then partially dismantled for shipping, again usually piled up.
It’s called CDK (completely knocked down kit) the mfr sends the vehicle as a kit that is assembled in the destination country.
It’s a clever way of getting around import taxes.
They’ve been doing it for years.
Brilliant endeavor! Respect for what OX delivers is achieving sofar
@everything electric, thanks again for another great story and brilliant interview!
Wow. What an amazing project. I wish you all the success in the world
This is a fresh look at how to bring benefit to those who cannot afford vital transportation services...I know this vehicle is not going on sale, but it would be interesting to see a short video on the capabilities and practical uses of their truck.
Fabulous! Absolute opposite of the Grotesque "SUV" Chelsea tractors that the UK EV market is full of!
Brilliant development I have been a long time supporter of Practical Action which is all about appropriate development to developing nations has to work locally I am delighted that like Phoenix this project has arisen out of the ashes of our once mighty car industry.
That was a slick podcast. It gave me some useful insight into how to build a successful business. And.. these types of vehicles can then do V2G when they are parked up overnight, once they have a stable power grid. That, plus houses or barns with solar on top and you have a full circle in terms of energy supply and energy security.
Never stops amazing me how people can innovate
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing this wonderful “story” (there must be a better word than calling this a story).
What a fantastic project. More like this please.
The path of flat packing gradually leading to manufacturing, is something BBC did a video on in West Africa (Nigeria) a few years ago. They used to import whole motorcycles from Japan. One import realized that most of his shipping fees were for shipping air. So he bought parts instead of assembled bikes and could sell them cheaper than his competitors at a higher profit after assembling them. When his competitors copied his business model, he looked for parts that could be manufactured in Nigeria. The plastic mouldings on the bikes are what he started with.
That was a great podcast Imogen! I would love for you to do a follow up in Rwanda.
It would be interesting to learn about the vehicle in depth, and just how they made it so durable, does it have trick suspension! Are the tyres special? It's clear the road building companies need to get involved in Rwanda in an imaginative way, can they improve roads that connect the smaller villages without impacting on the natural beauty and with minimum Co2 costs. Isn't there a technology for shredding old tyres into tiny rubber bits that can be used for resurfacing. We have vast tyre mountains! If the Romans could build roads a thousand years ago actually in an eco friendly way, can't we now do better?
Fantastic!!!
Great idea. lets hope it spreads out and Africa can boot any dependence on oil back into the sea
Wonderfull interview. I like what Simon bet to SouthAmerica for begin a great business
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for sharing.
Wonderful & very inspiring.
Reminds me very much of the old (and hopelessly failed) Africar project. He said he pitched the idea to Land Rover 😂. Can you even imagine Land Rover trying to make a simple, cheap, and easily repairable utility vehicle? They gave up that idea decades ago to make pointlessly heavy cars for silly rich people.
Great show. Imogen is so good at this stuff. I hope this project is revisited soon.
Toyota used to test and design special rugged models for Kenya. I knew someone one of their managers in the 1980s (who also ran the Safari Rally). But that only works for new imports, or secondhand models imported from other countries with bad roads.
What an amazing startup. Hope this is something that doesn’t get sold to the US. Exciting concept.
For the algorithms! Great episode, very interesting topic :)
Definitely room for a mixed load model, part truck part bus, to help people get to health clinics, voting stations, legal assistance etc.
Go ox, I'll take one, need em everywhere!
Fascinating.
GOOOOD MORNING FULLY CHARGED!
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Really interesting to see an electrified alternative that does not end up in any expensive "premium segment". Hope they get all the success.
It looks like an overgrown Steyr/Daimler/Puch *Haflinger* - one of my favourite tiny vehicles, the yellow one in the background might even have the portal axles 😊
This shows that FC is in a different class. If you ever need anyone to carry your bags anywhere, just ask !!
Refreshing, makes a lot of sense. Love the no frills, built to last, reuse-aesthetics. Not sure about the Uber reference though, as Uber have an exploitative business track record. What is the ownership model of Ox Delivers platform? Big private investors only? What level of ownership or sovereignty can communities have over/in the provider platform? How open source is the tech? It looks open source, but is it?
Very Cool!!
Brilliant interview!
Listened on podcast and now watching on youtube.
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A really fascinating concept. An inspiring idea.
Great storey. Thanks Imogen.
👍 would be great to see the trucks in action.
Plans to make a bus version? Or use the existing truck as a people hauler. In underdeveloped countries it's common to see trucks fitted out with simple wooden benches in the beds and used as buses. I've ridden many miles that way.
In Thailand, for example, the songthaew (two bench) is a small pickup with a wooden bench fitted on each side of the bed. A very common way to travel around for small money. Often the benches will be full of people and the space between full of the stuff people are taking to or from the market.
Listened to the podcast, but had to watch the video so that I could see this fabulous tater truck!
I would like to see people owning small city sized vehicles and renting the large vehicle on the rare occasions that they need it. (A great size for a city EV is a bike.)
A friend of mine runs a cargo bike in London but she comes home every day with tales of how at least one car has endangered her life, she's often late home because she's had to come back via the hospital & the bike mender 😢
(It's almost always cars, never lorries & rarely vans)
I've been riding a Ebike in London for years, for me it's one of the most convenient way's of getting from a to b, with no issues with other road users.
Amazingly good communicator !
Amazing story. If only 1st World countries could adopt this model and thinking. It is significant that an emerging economy is leading the way in adopting EVs because they don't have ICE based vehicles to replace.
Fantastic!
It's great to see people trying to help in Africa. However this business model is fishy to me based on what's discussed here. There are vans and trucks in Africa, owned and operated by local people. Everyone has a phone. It's possible for a local operator to create a uber type potato (or whatever goods need to be transported) app or 2G mobile based (SMS or phone call) service. It could simply put farmers in touch with drivers, and allow people to book a slot to have their goods delivered. The barrier to entry for this is incredibly low. So (1) why can local / africa based entrepeneurs not set this up and run it more cheaply than anyone from abroad possibly could - there seems to be no magic sauce or IP needed here that I can discern. and (2) why therefore is a UK-made flat pack electric truck required at all to make this business model work. As a standalone proposition (the truck) - is it realistic that a UK based low volume truck manufacturer can possibly complete with low cost vehicle manufacture in Africa itself, India, or China. The only way I could see it working is if there are development aid schemes which subsidise this process - in which case, it could become an exercise in "milking" development subsidies, and grants rather than actually creating a viable truck business in itself. Now, if it is true that the OX4 truck really is more economical to acquire and operate than an imported HiLux (or whatever) used truck in Africa, then it makes sense. If that's true then I'm surprised OX hasn't been acquired already an expanding massively, as such a vehicle would be an absolute game-changer in many parts of the world. Simon seems like a decent chap, and I'm sure he's got commendable motives. I totally buy the transport-as-a-service concept, but I don't necessary get the business case for an (almost certainly) expensive flat-build truck, except as a "vehicle" for applying for development grants and subsidies. I wish them best of luck - but I wish the interview had really probed the financial business case around the truck.
He says the goal is to have them built in Rwanda, the trucks arriving as CKDs will be to let the local constructor get experience of assembling then building more complex parts until they are able to build them locally. That is a fairly common process around the world.
Yes, the rest of it seems to be a bit dodgy.
EV's are expensive, as much because of all of the fancy "kit" that's included as much as the batteries. I doubt if these trucks will have aircon, GPS, traffic sensors, multi adjustable seats fitted. Minimal design costs for fancy infotainment software and attractive styling. Also flat packing and assembling in Rwanda reduces labour costs for manufacture considerably. China already shows how cheaply basic, functional EV's can be made.
This is what I thought, it very much sounds like a logistics company that is building a purpose built vehicle because over the long term the TCO will be lower. By building it to be serviceable and low cost to run means they can offer lower transport costs.
It sounds like part of the value add is the ability to book the slots using messaging to make it simpler, so the special sauce is perhaps tying it all together into a single business model.
Will these be available for purchase outright to farmers in the UK?
Been looking for something like this to replace our aging UTV if similarly priced.