Karma is catching up with Boeing for years of bending rules and hiding behind an army of lobbyists who were paid at the expense of assembly workers who actually are the most important pillar of this company success…
So many moving parts to this ongoing soap opera. No doubt a case study of the history of this type class since its inception almost 60yrs ago could make for an MBA level thesis. “When is it time to say goodbye?”
Going back to the eruption of information when the MCAS "Project Ninja" poured out, what struck me most was the abosolute arrogance that leadership and others at Boeing had for both the FAA and the certification process. Other than Forkner leaving (and getting a job with Southwest Airlines), nobody paid a price (beyond the piddling "fine" for criminal behavior). It's not surprising that arrogance is still happening. Until the entire Board of Directors and EVERY C-Suite officer is gone, there is zero chance of meaningful change.
Perhaps the Boeing shareholder lawsuits against Boeing and their Board of Directors will spur some major turnover on the Board, and then a clean sweep of the Chief Officers.
It's not only the C-Suite. It's the low and mid level management. The little guys who want to go up, suppressing anything from below and brown nose the people above. Exact this little grey mices, padding the reports to look good, achieving goals, and getting promoted are the problem. All the C-Suite sees is an organisation working perfect well, there are no problems on the internal radar screen. All career threatening incidents are handled right where they surface, whoever raises flags with its management will be sidelined. Not being able to handle irregularities or so called "quality escapes" are considered as weakness. In such an environment switching out the C-Suite won't improve anything. The poisonous low and mid level management remains, and they will continue feeding a picture of perfect harmony to the new C-Suite. Boeing has major HR challenge to weed out the worst manipulating low and mid level managers and replace them with reliable, quality oriented people, who care what they build.
The original 737 was just taking a 707 tube and shortening it, and change the wings and lower it closer to the ground, the 707, 727 and 737 were 12’ 4” diameter tubes and had the same flight deck footprint and windows, lots of common features between those three
Dj. Is there any evidence that would-be passengers are shying away from B737 aircraft irrespective of which airlines that operate them ? If so, a program on passenger loads would be interesting .
@@Perich29 Or maybe American Airlines (they have the largest Airbus fleet of any airline in the world), or maybe Delta (their Airbus fleet, especially wide-bodies, keeps growing), or maybe United (who have many Airbus aircraft in their fleet, and just recently welcomed the A321neo), or maybe Hawaiian, or maybe...
It will be a long time before I will fly on a Boeing jet if there is any other option.......Just dont trust them when they so openly put profit before safety.
When Boeing got to the point where it was rebuilding rebuilds someone should have stopped the snowballing before it became an avalanche. Pretty simple. Sometimes you just gotta say oops, and move on to better ideas.
What the hell is going on at Boeing? The primary US commercial aircraft manufacturer just keeps screwing up? Where is the quality Boeing used to represent? Why has it fallen off a cliff? What the hell is Boeing doing lately that has caused such a complete and utter crash in quality manufacturing processes? America looks horrible when all of these quality issues keep coming to light. We are losing to Airbus, and if Boeing doesn't correct this almost immediately, they may no longer exist in our near future. What a shameful end this would be to such an incredible history of U.S. aircraft manufacturing! Get it together, Boeing, before it is too late. Bring back the pride America used to have when traveling on American made commercial aircraft! Like NOW!
The issue will come when people starts refusing to fly on anything related to the 737 name. At this stage I don’t really know if the Max and NG’s 737 are pure crap or we are being eaten by news against it (possibly both). As European myself I’m on the Airbus team, but let’s be realistic, we’re all aviation guys so we need variety and mainly prevent monopolisation!
737 Max is a beautiful plane in my opinion, but potentially deadly (not counting the two crashes). There is a high chance another quality issue will surface in the future.
@@BassBrigade2089 yes that's why I didn't count the two crashes. Boeing allegedly kept the existence of MCAS out of everyone except internally at Boeing, thus it was never part of their training.
@@BassBrigade2089 fact only in your head. In reality, Lion Air pilots didn't even know about MCAS as Boeing did not include it into the manual. And while Ethiopian pilots did know about it, so there was only about 4 months between these crashes, so likely not enough to provide an adequate training. But all this aside, the fact that planes falls because of one failed sensor - this is solely on Boeing. Regardless what Boeing lobbyists from NTSB concluded at that time.
The relentless search for more power and lighter weight has lead CFM to incorporating composite materials in portions of the front cowling assembly that simply can’t endure the much higher temperatures of gases diverted to provide the de-icing function. Apparently other / newer models which utilize the LEAP engines have automated control of the timing of that procedure. I think it was Juan Browne who went into that in detail recently.
The 737 7&10s won't be certified until the de icing issue is fixed. I've seen 2026 for that. I don't know if Boeing can speed it up but I'd say entry to service is at least 2 years away
@@nathd1748 Good luck selling the MAXes to Europeans if Boeing chooses not to do so. EASA requires 3 AoA sensors, or 2 plus synthetic calculations similar to 787's implementation, to be ready when MAX10 is certified.
in my oppinion,problems with 787 when it was launched, problems with all 777x certifications and this BS with the 737 MAX series is the beggining of the END of Boeing! Period!
DJ, there is also a problem with existing MAXs which don't have the automatic deicing system on the engines. Keeping deicing system on can damage the front of the engine which is made of carbon fiber and hot air flows from bleed valves. The previous engines had aluminum parts which was not the issue, but in MAX planes this can cause the carbon fiber be ingested into the engine causing damage to the engine and potentially even damage to fuselage and explosive decompression. Do you have more details about this particular issue?
You'd think that thermostatic control systems that regulate temperatures to keep them within limits would be within Boeing's engineering capabilities. It's not a new science!
@@tomstravels520and there you go we are back to the same problem why the didn’t explain the mcas system in the first place, because training is expensive and they wanted ever NG pilot to be able to fly a max, it’s gross
Too bad for Southwest. They were involved in to clusterfμck of the 737MAX. Haven't they forced Boeing's hand to create this murderous cludge. I wish them no luck. H
Nick Oliver is crying hard now, wetting his pants. Guess what he would say - Airbus prioritise profit over safety, too. Yawns, typical delusional fangirl.
The 737MAX 700 is likely the most critical in terms of MCAS to respond to high thrust low speed eg full thrust go around, the shorter fuselage thus horizontal stabiliser arm hopefully is taken into account in thrust available, or nose up from rapid high thrust application will be difficult to counter.
@@AmbientMorality Exactly! Now consider how Boeing hung the new more powerful engines on the wing:a) to accommodate the larger diameter and achieve ground clearance, a cantilever beam is extended forward. b) So more powerful further forward c) To clear the ground the engine is tilted upwards=more thrust, further forward and thrust vector is downwards or more nose up. With all this increased thrust at greater upwards moment to be countered by the same old horizontal stabilizer and stabilizer actuator (It's a bit slow add to that pilots response is usually when the nose starts raising) it's a setup for rapid nose up when full thrust is applied, more critical at low speeds, add slow pilot selection of nose down stabilizer and you have a moon shot followed by a stall if thrust is not reduced to that required for a controlled climb rate. Very critical at low weight go around with accidental or deliberate selection of full thrust from the bigger engines, it was a handful with the 300. Yes thrust wasn't part of MCAS but it would have been so much more sensible than the mess that it was.
They are asking for trouble themselves ,how can they just rely on 1 manufacture to control the entire airline .They should has split half & half . That is what they ending up now.DOA
Specialists are very efficient, but vulnerable to sudden changes. Always has been the case, always will. Air Baltic with the A220 too got bitten this way with the engine issues. Saving a penny costs a dime. Unknown proverb in management circles.
For a long time and even more so now, airlines try to minimize the diversity in their fleets, which reduces maintenance and training costs. Not just being committed to one manufacturer, but even to the extent that some budget airlines use only one aircraft model series.
I love your videos. I really do. The only bad thing about your channel is that you always cover anything that happens in Australia, and the UK never gets a story. If you find an aviation news story about the uk I’d appreciate if you could put it in your videos!!! Love your news recaps on the whole though!!
Why ..? Trade one grounded aircraft for another! Ask Egypt Air and Air Senegal why they off-loaded their A220's.. Can only take so much when your aircraft are on the ground more than the air.. At least the 737 isn't Pratt powered..
@@777x-c6mso its better to make money and kill people than to need extra repair? So far 220s haven’t killed anyone and don’t have potential to destroy the airframe
All I know is when I book another flight I will demand the airplane make and model. Greed and ego has got us to this deplorable place in aviation history. Betcha souls like the Wright Brothers, Tex, Chuck, and other aviation heroes would be absolutely repulsed by today's aviation(excluding flight crews and cabin crews). It all began with the B737-MAX and aviation has been in disarray ever since. Will I fly again? Yes but only Delta. And no 737 MAX planes. Greed abounds and totally turned the aviation industry upside-down. The aviation founding fathers (and notable women pilots) have rolled over in thier dirt and watery graves.
That's a canon event. We hope Boeing could recover from this situation by revising literally everything, however if they don't, we wish for their bankruptcy.
🎉🎉🎉 🤣😂😅 Oh dear, I’m so sorry for Southwest I wonder IF they are perhaps ‘not’ so pleased to have went with the ‘7 and maybe think the A220 just would have been a wiser choice? It’d have still been built in the US so any ‘protectionist’ mumbo jumbo would NOT have been true. I’m sure Southwest can maybe either use approach COMAC or a Russian Manufacturer as they would love to get an order. (Oh please no Pro Boeing Crap Replies, Mummy will put you down for a nap 😴 to cure the cranky thoughts).
Imagine Southwest actually ordering the A220. 100 units... would be interesting. However, due to politics, Southwest can't order any Chinese or Russian aircraft.
VAX-stralia should not accept extra Turkish and Emirates flights. They should go ALL GREEN. Band all travel by airplane and accept only electric trains as a way of communication to and from Australia.
@@PlaneHigh Nicky is actively crying and melting all over the place. I'm helping Nicky to get over this as she is having a mental crisis on Airbus, knowing how the 737max his favourite, has failed with endless issues and debacles.
Of course, yeah. Other than exploding doors, missing bolts, engine anti ice overheating incase of usage over 5 minutes and some problems we haven't discovered yet, there are no problems at all!
@@nickolliver3021 I see a Boeing lover can't bear to the fall of Boeing and trying to blame Airbus for their mistakes that aren't even a safety issue. Very well. You've got not much to say since everyone survived on that JAL crash and the fire spread wasn't about composite, right? At least Airbus took action immediately on an incident that isn't their fault or they didn't know about beforehand, yes, I mean the A380 cracks. It's still safer than your plane going down at 90 degrees into the ground with pilots able to do nothing.
@@simondahl5437 Not recently but they’ve completely messed up too. Random unexplained nose downs. Just saying it seems DJ of who ever he is seems to just troll Boeing
@@simondahl5437 Not recently but they’ve completely messed up too. Random unexplained nose downs. Just saying it seems DJ of who ever he is seems to just troll Boeing
@@gwenyfred1743 Nose downs? Are we talking about the Qantas A330 incident? They did find the system at fault (Northrup grumman, American produced) and immediately issued directions on how to handle the issue until the issue could be sorted out. In comparison to Boeing, that system wasn't a digital shortcut to a physical problem, it wasn't kept from pilots and the FAA in the pursuit of monetary gain, and it didn't kill hundred of people.
Boeing destroying 80 years of work in a remarkably efficient way... xD
Karma is catching up with Boeing for years of bending rules and hiding behind an army of lobbyists who were paid at the expense of assembly workers who actually are the most important pillar of this company success…
All of this!
Karma doesn't exist, however
Seems like it does to me@@one_step_sideways
@@one_step_sideways your word against mine...
So many moving parts to this ongoing soap opera. No doubt a case study of the history of this type class since its inception almost 60yrs ago could make for an MBA level thesis. “When is it time to say goodbye?”
Going back to the eruption of information when the MCAS "Project Ninja" poured out, what struck me most was the abosolute arrogance that leadership and others at Boeing had for both the FAA and the certification process. Other than Forkner leaving (and getting a job with Southwest Airlines), nobody paid a price (beyond the piddling "fine" for criminal behavior). It's not surprising that arrogance is still happening. Until the entire Board of Directors and EVERY C-Suite officer is gone, there is zero chance of meaningful change.
Perhaps the Boeing shareholder lawsuits against Boeing and their Board of Directors will spur some major turnover on the Board, and then a clean sweep of the Chief Officers.
It's not only the C-Suite. It's the low and mid level management. The little guys who want to go up, suppressing anything from below and brown nose the people above. Exact this little grey mices, padding the reports to look good, achieving goals, and getting promoted are the problem. All the C-Suite sees is an organisation working perfect well, there are no problems on the internal radar screen. All career threatening incidents are handled right where they surface, whoever raises flags with its management will be sidelined. Not being able to handle irregularities or so called "quality escapes" are considered as weakness. In such an environment switching out the C-Suite won't improve anything. The poisonous low and mid level management remains, and they will continue feeding a picture of perfect harmony to the new C-Suite. Boeing has major HR challenge to weed out the worst manipulating low and mid level managers and replace them with reliable, quality oriented people, who care what they build.
All 737 airlines are taking a huge risk. From customers boycotts to further delivery delays. It just shows the massive danger for them.
exactly... Virgin Australia has 737max on order, once they take delivery, i'll only fly Qantas domestically
United Airline operators there 777 300 and 787 on that route so I'll fly United.
That death trap 737 Max loves to nose dive.60yr old airframe with new too powerful engines thst cause it to be nose heavy. If it's Boeing I aint going
The original 737 was just taking a 707 tube and shortening it, and change the wings and lower it closer to the ground, the 707, 727 and 737 were 12’ 4” diameter tubes and had the same flight deck footprint and windows, lots of common features between those three
Great video and info ❤
Dj. Is there any evidence that would-be passengers are shying away from B737 aircraft irrespective of which airlines that operate them ? If so, a program on passenger loads would be interesting .
If it's Boeing, I'm not going!
Then fly Spirit, Frontier, Jetblue, and Allegiant airline, they operate Airbus and Embraer.
@@Perich29 Or maybe American Airlines (they have the largest Airbus fleet of any airline in the world), or maybe Delta (their Airbus fleet, especially wide-bodies, keeps growing), or maybe United (who have many Airbus aircraft in their fleet, and just recently welcomed the A321neo), or maybe Hawaiian, or maybe...
Just fly any airline who doesn't have a 737-only fleet.
there seems to have not been a 737-7 test flight since last june but there are 737-10 test flight almost everyday
Humanity is saved!!!
It will be a long time before I will fly on a Boeing jet if there is any other option.......Just dont trust them when they so openly put profit before safety.
And yet management still refuses to step down 👎
Southwest should switch to airbus
When Boeing got to the point where it was rebuilding rebuilds someone should have stopped the snowballing before it became an avalanche. Pretty simple. Sometimes you just gotta say oops, and move on to better ideas.
Which is to make them stop making planes that fly, actually anything that flies
What the hell is going on at Boeing? The primary US commercial aircraft manufacturer just keeps screwing up? Where is the quality Boeing used to represent? Why has it fallen off a cliff? What the hell is Boeing doing lately that has caused such a complete and utter crash in quality manufacturing processes? America looks horrible when all of these quality issues keep coming to light. We are losing to Airbus, and if Boeing doesn't correct this almost immediately, they may no longer exist in our near future. What a shameful end this would be to such an incredible history of U.S. aircraft manufacturing! Get it together, Boeing, before it is too late. Bring back the pride America used to have when traveling on American made commercial aircraft! Like NOW!
Ty dj!!
The issue will come when people starts refusing to fly on anything related to the 737 name.
At this stage I don’t really know if the Max and NG’s 737 are pure crap or we are being eaten by news against it (possibly both).
As European myself I’m on the Airbus team, but let’s be realistic, we’re all aviation guys so we need variety and mainly prevent monopolisation!
737 Max is a beautiful plane in my opinion, but potentially deadly (not counting the two crashes). There is a high chance another quality issue will surface in the future.
In the eyes of the beholder... I for one never liked the low position of the plane, midget landing gears, engines not being perfectly round... 🤷♂️
@@BassBrigade2089so the MCAS didn’t malfunction? Do some research kid
@@BassBrigade2089 yes that's why I didn't count the two crashes. Boeing allegedly kept the existence of MCAS out of everyone except internally at Boeing, thus it was never part of their training.
@@BassBrigade2089 fact only in your head. In reality, Lion Air pilots didn't even know about MCAS as Boeing did not include it into the manual. And while Ethiopian pilots did know about it, so there was only about 4 months between these crashes, so likely not enough to provide an adequate training. But all this aside, the fact that planes falls because of one failed sensor - this is solely on Boeing. Regardless what Boeing lobbyists from NTSB concluded at that time.
@@GarthVonMaraner and he calls it a "pilot error". Damn, I sometimes think there were wrong people onboard those planes.
Thanks for your coverage of Alaskerrr Airlines!
lol! I noticed that too 😂
@@arkitekto323That’s how Brits and Australians pronounce anything with an A at the end lol. Australiarr, Indiarr, Malaysiarr😂
Now it’s de icing with max engines
The relentless search for more power and lighter weight has lead CFM to incorporating composite materials in portions of the front cowling assembly that simply can’t endure the much higher temperatures of gases diverted to provide the de-icing function. Apparently other / newer models which utilize the LEAP engines have automated control of the timing of that procedure. I think it was Juan Browne who went into that in detail recently.
The 737 7&10s won't be certified until the de icing issue is fixed. I've seen 2026 for that. I don't know if Boeing can speed it up but I'd say entry to service is at least 2 years away
I doubt that they'll ever be certified.
@Hans-gb4mv of course they will. They have finished airframes parked up
Always got the MCAS in the background, Boeing need to up the number of angle of attack sensors on all the Max planes.
@@sewasewa6585 says the armchair expert
@@nathd1748 Good luck selling the MAXes to Europeans if Boeing chooses not to do so.
EASA requires 3 AoA sensors, or 2 plus synthetic calculations similar to 787's implementation, to be ready when MAX10 is certified.
in my oppinion,problems with 787 when it was launched, problems with all 777x certifications and this BS with the 737 MAX series is the beggining of the END of Boeing! Period!
Other smaller airlines could make big money selling delivery slots.
DJ, there is also a problem with existing MAXs which don't have the automatic deicing system on the engines. Keeping deicing system on can damage the front of the engine which is made of carbon fiber and hot air flows from bleed valves. The previous engines had aluminum parts which was not the issue, but in MAX planes this can cause the carbon fiber be ingested into the engine causing damage to the engine and potentially even damage to fuselage and explosive decompression. Do you have more details about this particular issue?
You'd think that thermostatic control systems that regulate temperatures to keep them within limits would be within Boeing's engineering capabilities. It's not a new science!
@@Turboy65 Its to do with the type certification. Change too much and then airlines will have to have NG pilots and MAX pilots
@@tomstravels520and there you go we are back to the same problem why the didn’t explain the mcas system in the first place, because training is expensive and they wanted ever NG pilot to be able to fly a max, it’s gross
Too bad for Southwest. They were involved in to clusterfμck of the 737MAX. Haven't they forced Boeing's hand to create this murderous cludge.
I wish them no luck.
H
😂👍🏿
Not really... They were responsible for the ng staying analog but that was 30 years ago
Nick Oliver is crying hard now, wetting his pants. Guess what he would say - Airbus prioritise profit over safety, too. Yawns, typical delusional fangirl.
If Ryan air buy new 737, I’m going to choose more expensive rivals.
It’s not worth the risk.
I thought there was a nightime ban on flights arriving/leaving Brisbane? May Council have seen the light!
4:41 YAY
Why is Calhoun not fired!
I give Boeing just as much max time before bankruptcy as Elon Musk: 5 years MAX.
Well,, the commercial division possibly, but not the military division. It's too important to U. S. defense.
Tesla and spacex are going like gangbusters.
bankruptcy is debt Restructuring not clusure. If Boeing declare chapter 11 then they'd discount their debt and create a Restructuring plan.
The government won't allow Boeing to go bankrupt, ever
@@sox-on-a-duck693 I think the company will split. The military will be a stand alone company and commercial will be allowed to fail.
The 737MAX 700 is likely the most critical in terms of MCAS to respond to high thrust low speed eg full thrust go around, the shorter fuselage thus horizontal stabiliser arm hopefully is taken into account in thrust available, or nose up from rapid high thrust application will be difficult to counter.
MCAS isn't about thrust and doesn't take throttle as an input.
@@AmbientMorality Exactly! Now consider how Boeing hung the new more powerful engines on the wing:a) to accommodate the larger diameter and achieve ground clearance, a cantilever beam is extended forward. b) So more powerful further forward c) To clear the ground the engine is tilted upwards=more thrust, further forward and thrust vector is downwards or more nose up. With all this increased thrust at greater upwards moment to be countered by the same old horizontal stabilizer and stabilizer actuator (It's a bit slow add to that pilots response is usually when the nose starts raising) it's a setup for rapid nose up when full thrust is applied, more critical at low speeds, add slow pilot selection of nose down stabilizer and you have a moon shot followed by a stall if thrust is not reduced to that required for a controlled climb rate. Very critical at low weight go around with accidental or deliberate selection of full thrust from the bigger engines, it was a handful with the 300. Yes thrust wasn't part of MCAS but it would have been so much more sensible than the mess that it was.
Bad News For Boeing = Good news for passengers
Exactly
Exactly the mathematics that popped into my mind.
Less aircraft availability = less airline capacity = higher priced flights.
@@gpaull2 nah he meant for the safety, I would rather paying more than crashing into ground or my door exploding midair.
Any airline that orders Boeing planes now doesn’t care about passenger safety
Would you like a window seat
They are asking for trouble themselves ,how can they just rely on 1 manufacture to control the entire airline .They should has split half & half . That is what they ending up now.DOA
where did 6900 from?
If you order a Boeing, your delivery ain't going.
Nice🇸🇦
The quality escape that broke the camels back
The airlines don't want them..the paxs should insist likewise
Boeing is finding out the hard way that it takes a long time to get a good reputation, but that reputation can be lost very quickly....
I tell the ticketing agent I will not fly on any Boeing aircraft.
Every airline putting all eggs in one casket are in danger
Specialists are very efficient, but vulnerable to sudden changes.
Always has been the case, always will.
Air Baltic with the A220 too got bitten this way with the engine issues.
Saving a penny costs a dime. Unknown proverb in management circles.
I see what you did there. 😉
For a long time and even more so now, airlines try to minimize the diversity in their fleets, which reduces maintenance and training costs. Not just being committed to one manufacturer, but even to the extent that some budget airlines use only one aircraft model series.
I love your videos. I really do. The only bad thing about your channel is that you always cover anything that happens in Australia, and the UK never gets a story. If you find an aviation news story about the uk I’d appreciate if you could put it in your videos!!!
Love your news recaps on the whole though!!
For safety purposes
I only have one word for the 737 MAX (all variants) RECALL
I see this channel is back to making Boeing commercials, 2 thumbs down
I bet Southwest with they had chosen the A220 now.
Why ..? Trade one grounded aircraft for another!
Ask Egypt Air and Air Senegal why they off-loaded their A220's..
Can only take so much when your aircraft are on the ground more than the air..
At least the 737 isn't Pratt powered..
@@777x-c6mso its better to make money and kill people than to need extra repair? So far 220s haven’t killed anyone and don’t have potential to destroy the airframe
Boeing fans keep crying
I hope that IAG is not allowed to buy Air Europa, that would curtail competition in many markets.
Or Lufthansa Group shouldn't be allowed to buy ITA...
@@da480Not sure they would want to.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 they are buying it... Just waiting for EU agency approval
Put the damm 73 to rest stop being cheap and come up with a new airframe, while you are at it. Stop making narrow bodys
I don't think you even understand what the problem was with the door plug
It doesn't matter, we are way past that now, United, South West and Delta all fuming at the mess. Comac here we come
All I know is when I book another flight I will demand the airplane make and model. Greed and ego has got us to this deplorable place in aviation history. Betcha souls like the Wright Brothers, Tex, Chuck, and other aviation heroes would be absolutely repulsed by today's aviation(excluding flight crews and cabin crews). It all began with the B737-MAX and aviation has been in disarray ever since. Will I fly again? Yes but only Delta. And no 737 MAX planes. Greed abounds and totally turned the aviation industry upside-down. The aviation founding fathers (and notable women pilots) have rolled over in thier dirt and watery graves.
It is not all about Boeing. They could look at Airbus.
Thanks! You’re about a week behind!
Boeing has the worst top management of any major company. Corporate thugs are not engineers.
This could now mark the beginning of the end for the type. Really, the 737 product is quite outdated. Can't Boeing come up with a clean sheet product?
People who enjoy downfall of Boeing dont understand that this will in short lead to Airbus's Monopoly and ultimately higher airfares.
That's a canon event. We hope Boeing could recover from this situation by revising literally everything, however if they don't, we wish for their bankruptcy.
BS, for decades we had a Boeing monopoly, and flights were affordable. The initall price of al good is of small interest over 20years
What we enjoy is not downfall of Boeing as a company, but as a representation of the worst of capitalism.
but safer aircraft
@@cplcabs exactly.
🎉🎉🎉 🤣😂😅 Oh dear, I’m so sorry for Southwest I wonder IF they are perhaps ‘not’ so pleased to have went with the ‘7 and maybe think the A220 just would have been a wiser choice? It’d have still been built in the US so any ‘protectionist’ mumbo jumbo would NOT have been true. I’m sure Southwest can maybe either use approach COMAC or a Russian Manufacturer as they would love to get an order. (Oh please no Pro Boeing Crap Replies, Mummy will put you down for a nap 😴 to cure the cranky thoughts).
I don’t book with airlines where there is a chance they will sub a Max for any flights. Just booked JetBlue and not a Boeing in sight!
Imagine Southwest actually ordering the A220. 100 units... would be interesting. However, due to politics, Southwest can't order any Chinese or Russian aircraft.
@@EuropeanRailfanAlt Not sure why you think the A220 is Chinese or Russian. Please explain.
@@cplcabsit is the Airbus made in Canada in the former Bombardier division which Airbus bought.
Yea I thought the 737-7 would be delayed
I mean it could still be certified this year, but it would welcome the type in 2025
VAX-stralia should not accept extra Turkish and Emirates flights. They should go ALL GREEN. Band all travel by airplane and accept only electric trains as a way of communication to and from Australia.
My brain hurts from the amount of stupidity that came from that comment
Airbus fanbois channel trying hard to show Boeing in bad position
Don't worry, Boeing will always have a way out for you.
Boeing are the best advert to buy airbus.
Nick Oliver the delusional fangirl liked your comment, that's for sure.
@@alvinloh9068 why are you constantly talking about him?? kinda sounds like you are a fangirl of him.
@@PlaneHigh Nicky is actively crying and melting all over the place. I'm helping Nicky to get over this as she is having a mental crisis on Airbus, knowing how the 737max his favourite, has failed with endless issues and debacles.
The MAX is safe and effective.
Of course, yeah. Other than exploding doors, missing bolts, engine anti ice overheating incase of usage over 5 minutes and some problems we haven't discovered yet, there are no problems at all!
@@DeskPilot55and other than tbe fact tbe a350 pant doesn't degrade and a380 cracks don't get any worse airbus are safe and effective too 😅
Famous final words
@@nickolliver3021 I see a Boeing lover can't bear to the fall of Boeing and trying to blame Airbus for their mistakes that aren't even a safety issue. Very well. You've got not much to say since everyone survived on that JAL crash and the fire spread wasn't about composite, right? At least Airbus took action immediately on an incident that isn't their fault or they didn't know about beforehand, yes, I mean the A380 cracks. It's still safer than your plane going down at 90 degrees into the ground with pilots able to do nothing.
Yes it is if it's parked
The Boeing hate channel
And it’s all fair game. Airbus hasn’t seen the same scale of problems…
@@simondahl5437 Not recently but they’ve completely messed up too.
Random unexplained nose downs. Just saying it seems DJ of who ever he is seems to just troll Boeing
@@simondahl5437 Not recently but they’ve completely messed up too.
Random unexplained nose downs. Just saying it seems DJ of who ever he is seems to just troll Boeing
@@gwenyfred1743 Nose downs? Are we talking about the Qantas A330 incident?
They did find the system at fault (Northrup grumman, American produced) and immediately issued directions on how to handle the issue until the issue could be sorted out.
In comparison to Boeing, that system wasn't a digital shortcut to a physical problem, it wasn't kept from pilots and the FAA in the pursuit of monetary gain, and it didn't kill hundred of people.
@@simondahl5437 ooo touchy lol
And also EVERY SINGLE ONE of your videos uses the same library shots of the 737 taking off into a steep climb. Boring 🥱
If it's Boeing, I'm not going!