Is Starfleet Actually the Bad Guy?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2020
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"Star Trek: Picard RUINED Starfleet! Starfleet are supposed to be honorable and honest!" Did any of these people watch Deep Space Nine?
It's funny, because when I first watched Picard, I heard that interview where the reporter says "something, something Romulan lives" and Picard responds "No, Lives!" and it really set the whole tone of the series for me. Picard was fighting to essentially save the soul of the Federation and remind everyone what it was supposed to be about, warts and all. It seemed like a natural progression of the Federation sliding down a slippery slope from the Dominion war (and before now that Steve pointed out all the previous issues), and I kinda liked the idea that Picard was going to try to get the Federation back on track. Whether that's actually what happened or not I suppose is a matter for debate. Or for season 2.
Steve got through a whole video covering Starfleet’s shady shit and barely talked about Deep Space Nine. Now that’s what I call self control.
“They’re only really our values if we’re trying to live by them.” Well said.
Don't you just love how the meaning of "bad apple" has mutated from, "One bad apple spoils the barrel," (because that's how it works in real life; rot
There's a line in "In the pale moonlight" where Sisko says that the entire operation is sanctioned by Starfleet command. If that isn't proof of they're shadyness then I don't know what is
I thought about the way the Starfleet treated data and his offspring. First they treated him as property, then his offspring is property. Even though he was a distinguished officer. They were prepared to throw over his rights for their own gain.
At the end of this video, I realised that the conclusion is that Obi Wan Kenobi is one of the best characters in modern Star Trek.
But yeah people are seriously overreacting, Starfleet has ALWAYS been shady!
Do you imagine if the Earth's most powerful nation, a democracy, would decide to invade illegally, under false pretext, a small nation in a extremely fragile region, that would result to the death of hundreds of thousands of civilians, a huge civil war and years later a wave of terrorist attacks all over the globe, a huge increase in military tensions, that would be insane.
Just reminds me of Sisko's quote: Just because a group of people belongs to the Federation does not mean that they are saints. ... The trouble is Earth. On Earth, there is no poverty, no crime, no war. You look out the window of Starfleet Headquarters and you see paradise. Well it's easy to be a saint in paradise.
"-Not interested. Your mission this week is to go kick 'em off their planet. " Best paraphrase of a bad pollitical decision EVER!!
I never really noticed myself, how egregious Starfleet was, even after having seen certain episodes when I was younger.
I honestly never thought the “a few bad apples” excuse ever really worked because a lot of those bad apples are high ranking officers. To get to the point they are at without anyone confronting them on their behavior before they reached the positions of influence they have got means that not only have they been allowed to get away with such behavior but that they are also influencing younger officers and cadets and thus affecting the next generation of leaders. This speaks to so much more of a systemic corruption within Starfleet than anything else. And out of the universe, it means that the writers didn’t really consider the implications of how it could really look.
It´s interesting to think that in TNG almost ALL admirals, if not all, were douchebags... I always felt they sort of tried to point that out. The rank of captain as an honorable one, admiralty seems a more political one, bureaucractic.
"Your General Order 24"
remember that one time sisko, with full permission of starfleet command, proceeded to render an entire planet inhospitable to life, all just to get one man?
I can't help but totally agree. For me, the key example here are the Marquis. They may not always be in the right, but at their core they
And Nimbus 3, the Planet of Galactic Peace. The Federation enters into a tripartite agreement with it's two principle opponents and completely fails to make any meaningful investment into the project leaving it's population to rot.
Star Trek Picard got me into Star Trek, so far I'm loving TNG and DS9