Allen is either a criminal mastermind, or is innocent. He either knows a crap ton of forensic counter measures, or he didn’t do it. The lack of concrete evidence in the case is kinda crazy!
Just from his demeanor, blue collar job and everything we’ve heard about him, nothing against him but he seems, “not smart enough”, to be a criminal mastermind. And normally I’ve seen criminal profiler deep dives on criminal history or previous behavior but it’s just not there. It’s sad to say, but it generally appears the state and LEO spent so much time trying to fit him to this crime that they didn’t die Abby and Libby the due diligence of a thorough and deep investigation. This isn’t so much a failure on the state of how RA seems to be getting railroaded as much as they failed those 2 precious girls.
It’s crazy to me there are even 2 people in this chat that are discussing “all” the evidence against him. They have nothing so far. Certainly not enough to hold him in solitary in a prison for 18 mos. This could happen to you. Remember that
He confesssed…I mean. I get what u r saying.. but he confessed. And he confessed about things that weren’t even known by anyone BUT the killer. I get that ppl confess to things they didn’t do, but u got to admit, confessing to a crime this gruesome, and u were there at that exact time, u fit the description of the video, a bullet casing matches your gun, u have 25 phones from the past 25 years BUT the one u had when such crime was committed. Let’s be real… if detectives just let this guy wonder the streets as a person who is very likely to have done this crime by there own admittance, do u know his stupid that would be? lol. What if he is guilty and kills again, ? Disposes of more evidence? Leaves the country? 2 young girls died brutally and u have a guy who admitted many many times that he did it. But than changes and says he didn’t. Do u think detectives should just say “hey, he changed his mind says he didn’t do it! Let him loose!” 😂😂.. I mean be so for real!! 😂😂
And it wouldn’t happen to me, because I would never admit to a crime of killing young girls especially when I was there where the crime occurred. I also wouldn’t make phone calls and tell my spouse that I did this crime. But hey that’s just me..
Sure it’s possible , lots of murders don’t and also RA had what? 5 years to dispose of evidence? I mean, I’m sure he got rid of all the clothing he was wearing. Also, in the description from witnesses they say the man was wearing gloves, so that could be y he left no evidence. He was completely covered up. Now I admit there’s not a shit ton of evidence like most cases, but there is some. He did confess a lot of times. Even well after he would had been segregated and all that shit from detectives. He also matches the profile from the video, he WAS there, there is the bullet, the phone being missing at the time of crime.. and I’m all for ppl being exonerated when their not enough evidence. But just the way RA has acted or the things he has NOT said, to me, sounds of a guilty man.
State hasn't even come close to proving Allen is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. All they've established is he could've committed the crime but they haven't shown no one else besides Allen could've committed the crime, which is the legal standard. Whether you believe he's guilty or not, the state hasn't proven it and therefore the correct ruling is not guilty. That being said, juries don't always abide by that standard and convict anyway so we'll see what happens. I'm thinking a mistrial is the most likely, guilty verdict is second most likely then not guilty (although the objectively correct decision) is the least likely.
very good reporting. It occurs to me that all of the emotion from everyone in the courtroom is understandable in seeing in great detail how these poor girls died. But shock and emotion Arnt going to tie the defendant to this crime. The only thing that will do that is evidence. And i cant speak for anyone else, But i am seeing precious little of it. And it wont do to lose sight of the fact that if RA is wrongly convicted then the person that did these things to these little girls is still out there and will continue to kill and as he goes along he will get better, if such a thing can be said, at what he is doing.
You realize he was there that day, physically, right? You also know that an unspent round was found near the girls that could also be matched to a weapon he owned, right?
@@udonenomee2117 you people that only read headlines crack me up. He was there. He went to the police and said he saw the girls. The bullet was BURIED in the ground. The firearms person also said the markings on that bullet could have gone to any gun and that the markings could be different depending on your force of cycling the round. There is no physical evidence tying him to these crimes.
@@Indymetal89 I only read headlines but I’m also trained in forensic ballistics, because I’m a decorated combat infantryman. Have you ever been to any federal institutions and received firearms training? Or have you given firearms classes? I have.
Good reporting from Russ McQuaid. He is visibly shaken from today's events. You can hear it in his voice and his hand holding the mic is shaky. I feel so bad for the families.
If I was on the jury I would be pissed that I had been yanked out of my life etc to hear what? There isn’t a case, and when he gets acquitted I would be on the hunt for a wonderful civil lawyer and sue the crap out of all these agencies. His life is over in that town. His family have had scarlet letters on them. These poor girls have been failed. I swear this reminds me of the Jonbenet case with all the incompetence. I keep waiting everyday for the big reveal and it isn’t there. No wonder they have been so secretive about this case. Shame on them.
I have a bad feeling he has been set up!! I don’t want to see any innocent person go to prison for something they did not do!! If he is the guy why isn’t there more physical evidence tying him to it??!!
@@Anypronouns76 do you know for example that there were 4 black girls that died in a arson in the same county just around 3 months prior to this double homicide?
Keegan Kline the now convicted pedo was catfishing Libby, and (shock) had planned to meet the girls that day (the day they were murdered). He was an early suspect (for good reason) but for the life of me i cannot figure out why they didn't arrest Keegan for the obvious reason that he is the only logical person who could have murdered these girls and instead arrested Richard Allen who is so OBVIOYSLY INNOCENT!!!
I appreciate this report on a tough subject. I have to question how this man (the accused) moved Libby’s body around? She was a big girl and that’s not easy terrain. So many unanswered questions!
I have always wanted to know who killed these two young girls. I pray that there is enough circumstantial evidence to prove that he did do it. The bullet to me is very very weird. Why would there be a bullet from his gun in the same area!? I don’t know though. I am seriously thinking that the state doesn’t have enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did in fact do it. I just have to many doubts. I honestly think it was someone that knew they would be there……
Yes, there are many morons in this world. However, social media has made worse the particular phenomenon to which you are alluding. Right now, there are soooooo many people who think Allen, Kohberger, the Menendez brothers, et al. are innocent. When it comes down to it, most people are little more than sheep. A lot of folks, especially young ones, love lapping-up the shit that gets spewed from those like Ginger Peeples.
No it was not, no it was not, he did, because he did the right thing and came forward like a good person would, this case is a disgrace, I have watched 10 hours of summary and he is going to be acquitted 110%
You’re thinking with your emotions just like the state hopes the jury will do. Why didn’t the state lead with his specific details of his confession? Why are we still waiting to hear those details? Because it’s weak evidence to support a conviction. They’re burying those statements with horrific details of a heinous crimes against children in hopes that the jury will just go along with their theory and convict. Do you think the state should also charge Richard Allen with killing his family (they’re still alive) and for killing his (nonexistent) grandchildren since he confessed to those crimes as well?
He is 100% innocent. They have junk science for bullet evidence that makes no sense and can not be conclusively linked to his gun. They have false confessions and a statement saying he was there.
Lack of DNA evidence on stuff at his house wouldn't be uncommon as it was collected years after the murders. Hes confessed. He put himself in the exact same place. Hes built like the guy on the bridge. People are clueless claiming hes innocent
he could have been coerced by a gang like the the gang on the outside involved, money can get things done, also his height is inconsistent, and that bg video was probably staged
If He killed 2 girls by slitting their throats, he would be drenched with blood. How did he get every speck of that blood out of his car, when most experts say it is impossible to 100% get rid of all blood dna evidence that is in fibers. Why did he not sell the car if he had something to hide? He may be guilty, we haven’t heard all of the evidence yet, but the more that comes out, the less I believe he was involved.
I pray my loved ones are never in the wrong place at the wrong time. These law enforcement officers, this judge and this prosecution have destroyed my faith in the legal/“justice” system. There will be no justice for those precious girls if the wrong man is convicted and it will be entirely the fault of those mentioned above. I don’t know how they can live with themselves.
This crime was horrific, no doubt. I feel so much for the families who must sit there, listening to the testimony from the witnesses and seeing the photos. Two things stand out that bother me in this report. The first is describing a juror or two refusing to look at the crime scene photo evidence. While I'm sure it's hard for most people to view these and not be greatly affected, the jury HAS to look at the crime scene evidence, as it is their duty to do so as jurors. They knew graphic photos would be part of this case, and if weak stomachs were an issue, it should have been brought up at that time. For justice for those girls, LOOK at the damn photos! There may be very important details in them that some people may not see while others do. It's imperative for a fair trial for both victims and accused that no one is allowed to refuse to view them. If they pass out or throw up, then they do. But that makes me angry when I hear they are looking at clocks, at the floor, at the ceiling, while these important images are presented as evidence. The other thing that bothers me is what has NOT been found. NO evidence of RA's DNA found at the scene. None of the victim's DNA found in his truck or car. No blood found in his car, clothing, under the carpet in his vehicle. Nothing. The eyewitness testimony is all but useless. The ballistic evidence was poorly conducted and researched. No one described seeing RA. They described seeing a variety of men, but none that come close to RA. This was a bloody crime. He would have been covered. Yet they've found none. Not a drop. He was there that day, but so were many others. The "bridge guy" video has been so distorted, manipulated, been presented out of context and it's said that the image was of such poor quality that no person was identifiable as BG. Also, they testified the guy on the video's mouth did not move when the static "guys, down the hill" was supposedly uttered. Was he a ventriloquist? The person in the video is not looking their way and seems move focused on watching his footing. And he self reported, immediately, that he was in the park. If he was guilty, I'd think that he would have wanted to lay low. He cooperated and gave them everything they wanted. His response to his interrogator was that of a man who was appalled that they'd accuse him of something to heinous. Then they put him in solitary in a max security prison where guards wear "In Odin We Trust", and he comes out a psychotic and broken man, willing to testify to everything under the sun because of what they've put him through. Gull is a pos and is the most biased judge toward the state than I have ever seen. Let this man GO. The killer is still out there. I hope Allen sues the shit out of the state for the damage they've done and for violating every right that he is entitled to. This judge should be disbarred and the DA fired. If convicted, this case should be thrown out on appeal and will be THE next case for The Innocence Project. He is being railroaded by a crooked as AF system. .
Exactly. Jurors are questioned about if they have had a history of violence to themselves or someone else close to them that would make it too difficult to view graphic images. Part of getting a fair trial is having a jury that looks at all the evidence.
"The Real Killers" Libby's neck was cut with precision. While we knew the girls were stabbed, authorities never disclosed the exact murder weapon. It’s suspected the weapon was a one-of-a-kind, forged knife - the same type Brad Holder crafts for his friends, often stored in an Odinist satchel. Both Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall are involved in the Delphi Murders and the Flora Fire, making them serial killers who have walked free for the past eight years. What few people know is that Brad Holder was a paid federal informant, orchestrating the entire Delphi murder with impunity, seemingly taunting law enforcement by their inability to act against him. He remains protected, and his son Logan Holder, believed to have acted as the lure in the Delphi case, is also under protection. Holder and Westfall are ruthless men, lacking any semblance of empathy. The murder weapons used in killing Abby and Libby align exactly with the kind Holder makes. Their connection broke, however, when Westfall learned that Holder was a confidential informant who had disclosed details to law enforcement. Despite Westfall's continued protection, Holder’s betrayal of trust was a step too far, ending their collaboration. Since the murders, Brad Holder has openly boasted about his actions, hinting at his involvement across social media. Justice for Abby and Libby will remain elusive until the wrongful incarceration of Richard Allen, an innocent man, is addressed. Crucial documents - the 12-page "Odin Report" and the related 85-page police report - contain key evidence implicating the true killers of Abby, Libby, Keyara, Kionnie, Keyana, and Kerriele: Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall.
No DNA link to the Defendant. No blood link to the Defendant. No Phone Line to the Defendant. No Photo Link to the Defendant. No Voice Print match to the defendant.........So why was he arrested, kept in prison and put on trial?.... What about the unsolved murder of 4 black sisters in the neighboring town of Flora who lived 15 minutes from the Delphi murders. All 6 girls knew each other. The racist Delphi task force never even investigated the murder of the 4 black Flora girls or included them in the Delphi Tip Line. That use of race to decide what murders would be investigated by Doug Carter's ISP is obstruction of justice. Put him on trial.
Of course they didn't find any evidence of the victims on anything Allen owned. They didn't search his house or car for six years. That people are surprised at that or think it creates doubt is insane. If he wore gloves, he wouldn't get DNA on his victims. A guy working in a pharmacy would have access to latex or nitrile gloves, but even cotton work gloves could be good enough to prevent him from leaving DNA on the victims, particularly with an outdoor crime scene.
God bless Richard Allen, the girls, the families😢. I don’t think he did it, and there is zero evidence. Do y’all see how thin he’s gotten? He’s given up. I hope he comes back when he found not guilty.
Always commentary is about opinion and emotion.. What are the facts? How is this such a difficult case? Is the only tie an un fired cartridge? Why are the talking heads in the media so disappointing
Justice for Carrie! My heart goes out to her. She was asking questions about this investigation. They pushed her away. I don't even know her, but I'm so angry about the way they treated her.
what people put another human through that especially kids... to bad justice system is too lenient and not always finding justice. I hope prosecution don't blow this, but sure seems from every update
So he slit her throat and she tried to get away while holding her throat and braced herself against trees as she walked until she collapsed and he probably finished the job at that point. Sounds like it was a thrill kill for him.. he probably enjoyed the letting her think she was getting away then chased her back down. Sick!
Allen is either a criminal mastermind, or is innocent. He either knows a crap ton of forensic counter measures, or he didn’t do it. The lack of concrete evidence in the case is kinda crazy!
Libby was dragged? So, was there a blood trail? Also, good job, Russ. You got the girls’ names right today. But they were children, not “women.”
No drag/ ground disturbances at the scene.
Allen is either a criminal mastermind, or is innocent. He either knows a crap ton of forensic counter measures, or he didn’t do it. The lack of concrete evidence in the case is kinda crazy!
Just from his demeanor, blue collar job and everything we’ve heard about him, nothing against him but he seems, “not smart enough”, to be a criminal mastermind. And normally I’ve seen criminal profiler deep dives on criminal history or previous behavior but it’s just not there. It’s sad to say, but it generally appears the state and LEO spent so much time trying to fit him to this crime that they didn’t die Abby and Libby the due diligence of a thorough and deep investigation. This isn’t so much a failure on the state of how RA seems to be getting railroaded as much as they failed those 2 precious girls.
Not really, your comment is just a reflection of the "CSI Effect".
Of course no criminal mastermind would ever leave a bullet and smart phone with him recorded on it.
FYI, trial's not over.
that is because of all of the cover up from the beginning
Please.
Don’t call them young women. They were young teenagers.
Young girls.
Not women.
A tear? 24 hours after they were found. And the state says they were found 21-22 hours after they were deceased. A tear? A 48 hour tear?
Yes. That explains this entire investigation. Or the lack there of.
A dry tear mark. Hello?
@@outoftime7740 Hi :)
Tears mixed with blood?
Dried tears on her face…
@@outoftime7740 "a drop of liquid" /= dry tear mark. Hello? 4:57
Just brutal.
It’s crazy to me there are even 2 people in this chat that are discussing “all” the evidence against him. They have nothing so far. Certainly not enough to hold him in solitary in a prison for 18 mos. This could happen to you. Remember that
He confesssed…I mean. I get what u r saying.. but he confessed. And he confessed about things that weren’t even known by anyone BUT the killer. I get that ppl confess to things they didn’t do, but u got to admit, confessing to a crime this gruesome, and u were there at that exact time, u fit the description of the video, a bullet casing matches your gun, u have 25 phones from the past 25 years BUT the one u had when such crime was committed. Let’s be real… if detectives just let this guy wonder the streets as a person who is very likely to have done this crime by there own admittance, do u know his stupid that would be? lol. What if he is guilty and kills again, ? Disposes of more evidence? Leaves the country? 2 young girls died brutally and u have a guy who admitted many many times that he did it. But than changes and says he didn’t. Do u think detectives should just say “hey, he changed his mind says he didn’t do it! Let him loose!” 😂😂.. I mean be so for real!! 😂😂
And it wouldn’t happen to me, because I would never admit to a crime of killing young girls especially when I was there where the crime occurred. I also wouldn’t make phone calls and tell my spouse that I did this crime. But hey that’s just me..
That's such a scary thought, that law enforcement could do to any of us what they did to Richard Allen, that's why this case is so important!!!
Sobering and composed report, excellent job Russ Mc Quaid!
WTHR has much better coverage
So how the heck did he not get any blood transfer from such a bloody killing ? Explain please , impossible
Sure it’s possible , lots of murders don’t and also RA had what? 5 years to dispose of evidence? I mean, I’m sure he got rid of all the clothing he was wearing. Also, in the description from witnesses they say the man was wearing gloves, so that could be y he left no evidence. He was completely covered up. Now I admit there’s not a shit ton of evidence like most cases, but there is some. He did confess a lot of times. Even well after he would had been segregated and all that shit from detectives. He also matches the profile from the video, he WAS there, there is the bullet, the phone being missing at the time of crime.. and I’m all for ppl being exonerated when their not enough evidence. But just the way RA has acted or the things he has NOT said, to me, sounds of a guilty man.
He got rid of all the clothing he used, even the phone he was using. He bought just similar ones for a moment like this. Others have done this before.
He got rid of all clothing and bought a new jacket .
@ holy moly , didn’t know that , he’s looking guilty as hell
@melissabaines9807 no proof that I've heard yet but hope they ask his daughter n wife these questions.
State hasn't even come close to proving Allen is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
All they've established is he could've committed the crime but they haven't shown no one else besides Allen could've committed the crime, which is the legal standard.
Whether you believe he's guilty or not, the state hasn't proven it and therefore the correct ruling is not guilty.
That being said, juries don't always abide by that standard and convict anyway so we'll see what happens. I'm thinking a mistrial is the most likely, guilty verdict is second most likely then not guilty (although the objectively correct decision) is the least likely.
The lack of evidence is unreal. I would think that the killer would be covered in blood.
@fredrickriffel5845 he had a long time to clean off the blood and other evidence. He wasn't captured the next day lol
very good reporting. It occurs to me that all of the emotion from everyone in the courtroom is understandable in seeing in great detail how these poor girls died. But shock and emotion Arnt going to tie the defendant to this crime. The only thing that will do that is evidence. And i cant speak for anyone else, But i am seeing precious little of it. And it wont do to lose sight of the fact that if RA is wrongly convicted then the person that did these things to these little girls is still out there and will continue to kill and as he goes along he will get better, if such a thing can be said, at what he is doing.
The state is going to owe this man big time when he’s acquitted.
Cool, he can then retire. Guess that'a small peice to pay
You realize he was there that day, physically, right? You also know that an unspent round was found near the girls that could also be matched to a weapon he owned, right?
@@udonenomee2117 you people that only read headlines crack me up. He was there. He went to the police and said he saw the girls. The bullet was BURIED in the ground. The firearms person also said the markings on that bullet could have gone to any gun and that the markings could be different depending on your force of cycling the round. There is no physical evidence tying him to these crimes.
@@Indymetal89 I only read headlines but I’m also trained in forensic ballistics, because I’m a decorated combat infantryman. Have you ever been to any federal institutions and received firearms training? Or have you given firearms classes? I have.
@@udonenomee2117it’s a junk science. Not nearly enough to convict anyone.
Russ McQuaid is a superstar. God bless him for calmly describing each court day for us.
They are railroading this guy. Scary.
We don't need the newsroom"s reaction to this (physical sigh). That's not journalism. That's sensationalism.
I know. They think DNA is end all be all. You're correct. Sensation. Gasping. Signing !!!!!? Get a grip newsroom.
Good reporting from Russ McQuaid. He is visibly shaken from today's events. You can hear it in his voice and his hand holding the mic is shaky. I feel so bad for the families.
If I was on the jury I would be pissed that I had been yanked out of my life etc to hear what? There isn’t a case, and when he gets acquitted I would be on the hunt for a wonderful civil lawyer and sue the crap out of all these agencies. His life is over in that town. His family have had scarlet letters on them. These poor girls have been failed. I swear this reminds me of the Jonbenet case with all the incompetence. I keep waiting everyday for the big reveal and it isn’t there. No wonder they have been so secretive about this case. Shame on them.
I have a bad feeling he has been set up!! I don’t want to see any innocent person go to prison for something they did not do!! If he is the guy why isn’t there more physical evidence tying him to it??!!
there is so much to consider, more than you know, so many pieces that point to it
@@Chaos46992what is that?
We have yet to hear ALL of the prosecutions evidence.
The trial isn't over.
@@Anypronouns76 do you know for example that there were 4 black girls that died in a arson in the same county just around 3 months prior to this double homicide?
Dating apps on Libby’s phone?
Keegan Kline the now convicted pedo was catfishing Libby, and (shock) had planned to meet the girls that day (the day they were murdered). He was an early suspect (for good reason) but for the life of me i cannot figure out why they didn't arrest Keegan for the obvious reason that he is the only logical person who could have murdered these girls and instead arrested Richard Allen who is so OBVIOYSLY INNOCENT!!!
Her bf was an odonists son logan holder. BH is the father. He's the guy. This is a ritualistic crime.
Lots of apps say they’re for meeting people, for ages 13 and up. These were little girls.
This just makes me sick! Even though there is NO DNA from the suspect doesn’t mean he isn’t guilty!
Justice for abby and libby
SUCH a Shame. The Monsters we live with in our world even today. God Bless those who have suffered like this.
I appreciate this report on a tough subject. I have to question how this man (the accused) moved Libby’s body around? She was a big girl and that’s not easy terrain. So many unanswered questions!
This is the only case in which I can remember that a heavy pall of dread is hovering over the reporting of the trial. This crime is unfathomable...
I have always wanted to know who killed these two young girls. I pray that there is enough circumstantial evidence to prove that he did do it. The bullet to me is very very weird. Why would there be a bullet from his gun in the same area!? I don’t know though. I am seriously thinking that the state doesn’t have enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did in fact do it. I just have to many doubts. I honestly think it was someone that knew they would be there……
God these comments are depressing. People are thick as shīt.
Yes, there are many morons in this world.
However, social media has made worse the particular phenomenon to which you are alluding. Right now, there are soooooo many people who think Allen, Kohberger, the Menendez brothers, et al. are innocent. When it comes down to it, most people are little more than sheep. A lot of folks, especially young ones, love lapping-up the shit that gets spewed from those like Ginger Peeples.
Can you please show some respect and don't watch the family members and then report on their reactions like they are a sideshow at the carnival?
His coat. His bullet. He put him himself in the area at the time. He knew things only the killer would know.
Agreed.
No it was not, no it was not, he did, because he did the right thing and came forward like a good person would, this case is a disgrace, I have watched 10 hours of summary and he is going to be acquitted 110%
You’re thinking with your emotions just like the state hopes the jury will do. Why didn’t the state lead with his specific details of his confession? Why are we still waiting to hear those details? Because it’s weak evidence to support a conviction. They’re burying those statements with horrific details of a heinous crimes against children in hopes that the jury will just go along with their theory and convict. Do you think the state should also charge Richard Allen with killing his family (they’re still alive) and for killing his (nonexistent) grandchildren since he confessed to those crimes as well?
What details does he know about exactly? The jury hasn’t heard his confessions yet.
He is 100% innocent. They have junk science for bullet evidence that makes no sense and can not be conclusively linked to his gun. They have false confessions and a statement saying he was there.
Lack of DNA evidence on stuff at his house wouldn't be uncommon as it was collected years after the murders. Hes confessed. He put himself in the exact same place. Hes built like the guy on the bridge. People are clueless claiming hes innocent
How is he built like the guy, when all the witnesses describe a man that is tall and Richard is 5'4.. I think your the clueless one in the chat
he could have been coerced by a gang like the the gang on the outside involved, money can get things done, also his height is inconsistent, and that bg video was probably staged
Gullible much? I hope you're never on a jury.
Ok, Holeman.
If He killed 2 girls by slitting their throats, he would be drenched with blood. How did he get every speck of that blood out of his car, when most experts say it is impossible to 100% get rid of all blood dna evidence that is in fibers. Why did he not sell the car if he had something to hide? He may be guilty, we haven’t heard all of the evidence yet, but the more that comes out, the less I believe he was involved.
I pray my loved ones are never in the wrong place at the wrong time. These law enforcement officers, this judge and this prosecution have destroyed my faith in the legal/“justice” system. There will be no justice for those precious girls if the wrong man is convicted and it will be entirely the fault of those mentioned above. I don’t know how they can live with themselves.
My prediction: there won't be any justice for the victims because he'll be found not guilty. However, Richard Allen's as guilty as sin.
This crime was horrific, no doubt. I feel so much for the families who must sit there, listening to the testimony from the witnesses and seeing the photos. Two things stand out that bother me in this report. The first is describing a juror or two refusing to look at the crime scene photo evidence. While I'm sure it's hard for most people to view these and not be greatly affected, the jury HAS to look at the crime scene evidence, as it is their duty to do so as jurors. They knew graphic photos would be part of this case, and if weak stomachs were an issue, it should have been brought up at that time. For justice for those girls, LOOK at the damn photos! There may be very important details in them that some people may not see while others do. It's imperative for a fair trial for both victims and accused that no one is allowed to refuse to view them. If they pass out or throw up, then they do. But that makes me angry when I hear they are looking at clocks, at the floor, at the ceiling, while these important images are presented as evidence. The other thing that bothers me is what has NOT been found. NO evidence of RA's DNA found at the scene. None of the victim's DNA found in his truck or car. No blood found in his car, clothing, under the carpet in his vehicle. Nothing. The eyewitness testimony is all but useless. The ballistic evidence was poorly conducted and researched. No one described seeing RA. They described seeing a variety of men, but none that come close to RA. This was a bloody crime. He would have been covered. Yet they've found none. Not a drop. He was there that day, but so were many others. The "bridge guy" video has been so distorted, manipulated, been presented out of context and it's said that the image was of such poor quality that no person was identifiable as BG. Also, they testified the guy on the video's mouth did not move when the static "guys, down the hill" was supposedly uttered. Was he a ventriloquist? The person in the video is not looking their way and seems move focused on watching his footing. And he self reported, immediately, that he was in the park. If he was guilty, I'd think that he would have wanted to lay low. He cooperated and gave them everything they wanted. His response to his interrogator was that of a man who was appalled that they'd accuse him of something to heinous. Then they put him in solitary in a max security prison where guards wear "In Odin We Trust", and he comes out a psychotic and broken man, willing to testify to everything under the sun because of what they've put him through. Gull is a pos and is the most biased judge toward the state than I have ever seen. Let this man GO. The killer is still out there. I hope Allen sues the shit out of the state for the damage they've done and for violating every right that he is entitled to. This judge should be disbarred and the DA fired. If convicted, this case should be thrown out on appeal and will be THE next case for The Innocence Project. He is being railroaded by a crooked as AF system. .
The jurors might look at them in the jurors room.
Exactly. Jurors are questioned about if they have had a history of violence to themselves or someone else close to them that would make it too difficult to view graphic images. Part of getting a fair trial is having a jury that looks at all the evidence.
I think having a jury of peers is stupid. Just have the judge judge. They know the law. Juries are just regular morons
Jurors who feel great empathy will struggle with too many graphic violent images. Doesnt mean they aren’t good jurors.
I agree. Easy target. He told them he was there. He told them about his mental health struggles.
I think they got the wrong guy ...am i right??
Yes
The guy in the picture has a limp. Has no one else caught that?
No, you're not right.
@@slosterloh great catch!
Richard Allen is Innocent
"The Real Killers"
Libby's neck was cut with precision. While we knew the girls were stabbed, authorities never disclosed the exact murder weapon. It’s suspected the weapon was a one-of-a-kind, forged knife - the same type Brad Holder crafts for his friends, often stored in an Odinist satchel. Both Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall are involved in the Delphi Murders and the Flora Fire, making them serial killers who have walked free for the past eight years. What few people know is that Brad Holder was a paid federal informant, orchestrating the entire Delphi murder with impunity, seemingly taunting law enforcement by their inability to act against him. He remains protected, and his son Logan Holder, believed to have acted as the lure in the Delphi case, is also under protection.
Holder and Westfall are ruthless men, lacking any semblance of empathy. The murder weapons used in killing Abby and Libby align exactly with the kind Holder makes. Their connection broke, however, when Westfall learned that Holder was a confidential informant who had disclosed details to law enforcement. Despite Westfall's continued protection, Holder’s betrayal of trust was a step too far, ending their collaboration. Since the murders, Brad Holder has openly boasted about his actions, hinting at his involvement across social media.
Justice for Abby and Libby will remain elusive until the wrongful incarceration of Richard Allen, an innocent man, is addressed. Crucial documents - the 12-page "Odin Report" and the related 85-page police report - contain key evidence implicating the true killers of Abby, Libby, Keyara, Kionnie, Keyana, and Kerriele: Brad Holder and Patrick Westfall.
They are showing that this is an awful, awful crime.
But they are not showing that Allen did it.
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I guess my question is, have they found any dna?
No DNA link to the Defendant. No blood link to the Defendant. No Phone Line to the Defendant. No Photo Link to the Defendant. No Voice Print match to the defendant.........So why was he arrested, kept in prison and put on trial?.... What about the unsolved murder of 4 black sisters in the neighboring town of Flora who lived 15 minutes from the Delphi murders. All 6 girls knew each other. The racist Delphi task force never even investigated the murder of the 4 black Flora girls or included them in the Delphi Tip Line. That use of race to decide what murders would be investigated by Doug Carter's ISP is obstruction of justice. Put him on trial.
Many convictions were accomplished way before DNA was known about. Stop acting like DNA is a be all end all last word. It's not.
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Of course they didn't find any evidence of the victims on anything Allen owned. They didn't search his house or car for six years. That people are surprised at that or think it creates doubt is insane.
If he wore gloves, he wouldn't get DNA on his victims. A guy working in a pharmacy would have access to latex or nitrile gloves, but even cotton work gloves could be good enough to prevent him from leaving DNA on the victims, particularly with an outdoor crime scene.
God bless Richard Allen, the girls, the families😢. I don’t think he did it, and there is zero evidence. Do y’all see how thin he’s gotten? He’s given up. I hope he comes back when he found not guilty.
Look at BG that's 100% RA. You can even see the outline of the gun in his right coat pocket.
A blessing for a child murderer is wild
I have seen zero evidence. None at all. I can’t tell anything from the BG video. It does not look like Allen to me.
You don't know how to deduce and to critically analyze evidence then.
@@outoftime7740BG looks much too tall to be RA in my opinion.
Always commentary is about opinion and emotion.. What are the facts? How is this such a difficult case? Is the only tie an un fired cartridge?
Why are the talking heads in the media so disappointing
WTHR has much better coverage
No gun USD but he left an unused bullet. That bring the evidence against him.
What about Carrie, Libby’s mother?
Justice for Carrie! My heart goes out to her. She was asking questions about this investigation. They pushed her away. I don't even know her, but I'm so angry about the way they treated her.
@@BeyatchenatorWho pushed her away/mistreated her, and what's your source for that information?
that doesnt help defense because there was NO DNA found. If there was unidentified DNA then yes, but now it doesnt mean sh
Hard to imagine one person able to corral to country girls fight for their lives; just saying, I could more easily see two or more assailants.😢
The first part of your sentence is unclear.
He didn’t do it. Indiana has a Norse pagan problem.
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🤑🤑🤑TRUMP / VANCE 2024🤑🤑🤑
I knew he was innocent from the start.
Me too, I watch fish all the time. Who uses that for an excuse
what people put another human through that especially kids... to bad justice system is too lenient and not always finding justice. I hope prosecution don't blow this, but sure seems from every update
Innocent.
You cannot Possibly believe what you're reporting... No one else does
FYI, trial's not over. For him to be acquitted, 12 people need to agree he's innocent. Highly doubtful that will happen.
So he slit her throat and she tried to get away while holding her throat and braced herself against trees as she walked until she collapsed and he probably finished the job at that point. Sounds like it was a thrill kill for him.. he probably enjoyed the letting her think she was getting away then chased her back down. Sick!
I'm really not sure as to why all of the hype of this info.😢
Quit being pro defense Russ. Cover it without the baitclicks.
The reporter is too old for this job, and can not present good the case .
And you can't make a clear sentence, so...?
@l.a.3479 at least I do not show on TV, and so
They were 13 and 14 years old so please, don’t call them young women? that suggests they were young adults, and they were children!
I'll listen to Your channel again when you stop the liberal BS and bad reporting ok bye
Allen is either a criminal mastermind, or is innocent. He either knows a crap ton of forensic counter measures, or he didn’t do it. The lack of concrete evidence in the case is kinda crazy!
Or LE did such a poor job securing the scene and collecting the evidence.
Allen is neither of those.