Holden Dealer Team 1969 to 1987 Full Documentary

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  • Holden Dealer Team 1969 to 1987 Full Documentary.
    Peter Brock, John Harvey and others talk about the creation and history of the HDT Special Vehicles operation.
    Length 1 Hour 29mins
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  • @Jagermonsta
    @Jagermonsta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    it was great being able to watch this with Peter Brock, was like he was still with us for an hour and a bit

  • @jimfashik
    @jimfashik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No matter how many times I watch it I will never get sick of it two great Legends lost but the Legacy still lives on

  • @3800TURBO
    @3800TURBO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I stopped watching Bathurst when production cars stopped racing. Don't get me wrong supercars are awesome bits of gear but just not as exciting as seeing production cars race. I have this doco at home.

    • @Mambojambo157
      @Mambojambo157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. This years Bathurst was the first I’d watched since the early 90s. It was ok actually, but still very formulaic I guess is the word.

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep

    • @isaidthat4505
      @isaidthat4505 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think a lot did the same anyone can drive a purpose built car around Bathurst fast . doing it in a road /race car is a art not many got right brock did it easy

    • @BradCollier-zn2uc
      @BradCollier-zn2uc หลายเดือนก่อน

      The days when Mazda were at Bathurst

  • @denisegore1884
    @denisegore1884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Brock's face lit with joy ad pride recalling his name being painted onto the guard. A treasured memory for him after many years. What a special man he was and what a special time. It was watching him win the Nissan Mobil 500 at Wellington that ignited my interest in motorsport. Thanks for the memories!

    • @stevenfarrington2361
      @stevenfarrington2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can still remember the first time I saw a blue meanie on holiday in Whitianga in 1986. I kneeled down to get a good look at Brocks signature on the side. It was an awesome sight to behold.

  • @johnhenderson2905
    @johnhenderson2905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    A time that will sadly never be repeated in Australia.

    • @lobsterwhisperer7932
      @lobsterwhisperer7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you never know, reckon Holden will be back..name recognition is everything and a valuable commodity.

    • @mrwolsy3696
      @mrwolsy3696 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gm will reboot the name in badge form some day, GM has zero presence in Australia now and soon they will be hungry to change that.

  • @apd8339
    @apd8339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    good show R.I.P Peter Brock.

  • @MyBlueZed
    @MyBlueZed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thanks for posting. Loved seeing Mount Panorama again with the dirt edges and post & wire fences. 😊

  • @mullerandre95
    @mullerandre95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    RIP Peter Brock. This goes to show it's the people that made the team and the brand, not the corporates. The world is poorer because corporate greed always wins over people. We'll always remember the Golden age!!!

    • @Toyotas_n__Tools
      @Toyotas_n__Tools 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If it wasn't for those corporates you wouldn't have a lot of the racing because they're the ones pumping money into the teams to keep them together feeding their familys rather getting a regular job.

    • @Aaron_Hanson
      @Aaron_Hanson ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Toyotas_n__Tools you obviously have not payed attention to what was presented in this documentary and have very little knowledge of motorsports history in Australia

  • @mickwinters8484
    @mickwinters8484 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have watched EVERY Bathurst since 1969, I was 11, never missed one, for me it was incredible it was a great year as mankind walked on the moon for the first time!! and I, along with millions watched it, and Brocky, well what can I say, he was a GOD!!!!

  • @superstock9261
    @superstock9261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great doco. What an iconic brand Holden, and HDT was. One day the Holden name will be resurrected and it goes without saying that there's a rich history to tap into

  • @weldmachine
    @weldmachine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am Not a die hard Holden Fan or Ford Fan.
    ( i have owned both brands )
    But when i watch this video.
    It makes a little sad to see the end of Holden in Australia.
    The people who put Holden on the map, must be turning over in there graves now.
    It,s already bad enough seeing all the Australian companies moving off shore.
    But with the announcement of the end of Holden as a company it really hits home knowing major Australian industries are pretty much finished now.
    Luckily the small to medium businesses are growing in strength.
    Which is good.
    As it has a way of sharing the wealth so to speak.

    • @jacksonhiggins3302
      @jacksonhiggins3302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you drive since you don’t own a ford or Holden

  • @haydengault2568
    @haydengault2568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2 HDT legends gone but never forgotten ❤️❤️

  • @jez9951
    @jez9951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for posting. R.I.P Brock and R.I.P Holden.

  • @hqztonners
    @hqztonners 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing this great documentry! Enjoyed every minute!

  • @yusuf.alajnabi
    @yusuf.alajnabi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I used to admire Peter brock so much growing up. He pretty much made Holden popular amongst many people in my generation. Holden without Peter brock is like ford without Allan Moffat. Both guys were great legends and they will never be matched for what they did.

  • @TheAlmightyClipse
    @TheAlmightyClipse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:52 "There's this long hair bastard...." 🤣🤣
    This Harry Firth fella reminds me of Kevin Sheedy of the Essendon Footy club! The way he talks about motor racing. Then hearing Pete talk about his first impressions of the Holden Dealer Team makes my heart feel like it's gonna jump out of my chest!!! I was born in late '91 so this was long before my time but wow what an absolute "Golden Era" it must've been back then!! R.I.P Peter Brock & Harry Firth!!! Long live Holden!!!

  • @dennisfreebairn8754
    @dennisfreebairn8754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video my brother, thanks for sharing

  • @MySteamChannel
    @MySteamChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great era for Australia...I had 4 Monaro"s & 3 Torana's...now I have 1 Toyota & cancer!

  • @TheHarley883r
    @TheHarley883r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I grew up with this.... as a fantastic, phenomenal, experience. had the opportunity to drive this track when i was older driving an XU 1 !! we use to camp out on the big hill at Bathurst as kids with the family having a barby and sleeping in tents just epic....THERE needs to be a film made from this legendary time in history , with its icons and legends for us Aussies and the rest of the world to understand a culture and lifestyle of millions.....viewed on the big screen If they can make a film about the worlds fastest Indian then this deserves the attention of predominant film makers...trying to find the cars could be an issue but it needs to be done !!!!!!!!!!!!! Rant out ... thanks for sharing Rift dude made my weekend ,,,,,,,,

    • @mint_au
      @mint_au ปีที่แล้ว

      loved that movie the worlds fastest indian showed more of the backstory and what actually happened with the guy leading upto shipping the bike out to the states and all the pain and moments along the way

  • @Jagermonsta
    @Jagermonsta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:00:03 - "poofteenth"; it's a unit of measurement that doesn't get used enough any more.
    fortunate enough to have an SS Torana of my own.
    Wonderful doco, thanks for uploading

    • @Rob-fc9wg
      @Rob-fc9wg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah like a bees dick, a smidgen and a tad.
      All used when very precise measurements are needed.

  • @FelixRigg
    @FelixRigg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for posting this.

  • @MatthewJohnCrittenden
    @MatthewJohnCrittenden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quality Quarantine Entertainment, cheers!

  • @powerofone1645
    @powerofone1645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Classic Aussie history. Worth it's weight in gold.

  • @markissboi3583
    @markissboi3583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    grew up watching brocky sandown melb & owned 2 LH toranas wish i still had my sporty SL i modified the suspension handled like a race car around corner stuck to it

  • @saintraphael6311
    @saintraphael6311 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RIP Mr Brock. I drove my first V8 super car the day that Peter Brock died in a WA road rally.

  • @kuribojim3916
    @kuribojim3916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @chocodiledundee1
    @chocodiledundee1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Late 70’s Toranas they are gorgeous cars the Hardtop Falcon coupe as well even more beautiful and that black & gold 635 BMW ain’t no Bemmer fan but far that’s a hot looking BMW Lowered with BBS and rolling bars ... Brock is sure legendary very Aussie “no need change anything in the car I will win the race as it’s is “ lol 👏🏼👏🏼

  • @rjl110919581
    @rjl110919581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THANK YOU DETAIL VIDEO ON HISTORY AUSTRALIA RACING WAS BEST TIME IN AUSTRALIA

  • @burnsiet
    @burnsiet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have worked out what sold Harry Firth to the Holden idea. 05:05

  • @turbolife5912
    @turbolife5912 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thankyou for this I have enjoyed remembered and reminisced Thankyou again Brocky you fucking legend ❤️

  • @whatdoiknowsmith
    @whatdoiknowsmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 27 mins the true Aussie attitude, "how about you let me have a go" re putting a v8 in the xu1 Torana. Bloody ripper!!!

  • @lawrencegatt4515
    @lawrencegatt4515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video

  • @tommygola
    @tommygola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    30 thumbs down? Let me guess, Ford lovers!

  • @leongt1954
    @leongt1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't know that Dick Johson drove a Holden for the first 6 years of his career in the ATCC and that he drove for HDT in 1974

  • @markmark5269
    @markmark5269 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great days, was there for all of them (TV at home of course). Best was getting up at 6 in the morning in the 1960s/early 70s as a kid for the big day of TV!
    We should all be thankful that Channel 7 and the ABC did cover all those ATCC events back in the day, one of the few countries in the world that did.

  • @deepestdub
    @deepestdub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic stuff

  • @frankiesultana3743
    @frankiesultana3743 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How well did peter explain the throttle opening of the carburettors that it worked well at low speeds and flat opened but not half throttling... it leaned out the engine and burnt holes in the pistons ..... wow

  • @richardmonahan7430
    @richardmonahan7430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got it all ready awesome

  • @johnbowen2963
    @johnbowen2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    love the ozzys. just so hard core. good blokes, old school

  • @sickofcrybabies.7145
    @sickofcrybabies.7145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Pointing a finger at harry when you have energy polarizer for the sake of nothing but money. Rest in peace brocky BUT you were not so pristine yourself.

  • @BruceLee-sw4ms
    @BruceLee-sw4ms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of coarse they liked it - they got gifted presents leading in to Bathurst every year .

  • @karhlhenselien2260
    @karhlhenselien2260 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a blue oval man but to me HDT is Aussie in a cammed up nut she.That was awesome watching that with our legend's of motorsport

  • @hypercomms2001
    @hypercomms2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP.... I hope one day there will be a new Australia Holden Car and a Holden Dealer Team, one day fighting it out at Bathurst... with Holden, or even Ford... Bathurst will not be the same....

  • @markissboi3583
    @markissboi3583 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grew up watching Brocky at local sandown melb & owned 2 LH toranas wish i still had my sporty SL
    i modified the suspension & it handled like a race car around corners people who didnt have a clue wud pull me over to ask wtf is under it :)
    i cud loose you no matter what car thru city streets you be still turning as i,m 1/2 way down the road tee hee as a v8 owner was left for dead

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah righto 😂

    • @erlinglarsen
      @erlinglarsen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that after you had some magic mushrooms lol.

  • @chrisso4869
    @chrisso4869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We got to Bathurst motors, "got new blinkers, head lights and windscreen", Harry was not happy......HAHA classic

  • @Mambojambo157
    @Mambojambo157 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always thought the HDT said HOT. There was no greater livery than the Marlboro Holdens. As a kid I used to draw the Torana all the time.

    • @Rob-fc9wg
      @Rob-fc9wg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The advertising campaign catchcry for the GTR Toranas was:
      "Torana, when you're hot you're hot"

  • @davidmathersonparanormal522
    @davidmathersonparanormal522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Folks. The value of a 2 door 1970 GMH HG Monaro in Australia now exceeds $700,000.00. Monaro is an Aboriginal word meaning rising sun. The Monaro is the car that originally raced against the legendary V8 Ford Falcon at the Bathurst 1000 at Mount Panorama during the 1970's. The Bathurst 1000 is considered to be one of the best car endurance races in the world. Take Care, David Matherson

    • @Rob-fc9wg
      @Rob-fc9wg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Monaro means "high plain" in Aboriginal.

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're not 700k mate
      HK are the most valuable and even those aren't 700

  • @danhewson3579
    @danhewson3579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brocks ego was bigger than any other driver, he loved himself

    • @tezzrterry7485
      @tezzrterry7485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was confidence in his own ability. Peter wasn't arrogant or rude to anyone, just fast on the track.

    • @marcpaola1371
      @marcpaola1371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've met them all and the two that stand out for the biggest Egos and arrogance by a long long way is Larry Perkins and Dick Johnson.

  • @peternicholson233
    @peternicholson233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 1:03.30 or so. He swerved to miss an animal. Don't do that unless you're Peter Brock.

  • @CalaisRider
    @CalaisRider 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Race what you sold is what made" the era so good. Nowdays there is so many regs and running a 5 litre in what in sales terms of the VE type cars have 427ci engines in road form. I just don't get it. There is no comparison to anything on the street, regardless of $180,000 just for a Supercar Engine based on a 5 litre. I believe Supercars have lost the ethos of racing an equivalent of what you can buy from the pubic, and even modify as an off the showroom floor car. This what made this Torana of various types and Ford and Mechanical Sympathy sorted good drivers from average. We will never see such racing times again.

  • @peternicholson233
    @peternicholson233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @9:35 what is car number 106 in the background? Great footage and stoked to watch it. When Australia was a better place to be.

    • @Rob-fc9wg
      @Rob-fc9wg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaguar D- type.

  • @thetreblerebel
    @thetreblerebel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aussie motorsport cars were the closest to the American cars than any other country. But later also put JDM cars over as well. Great blend

  • @shoominati23
    @shoominati23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish someone would do a repro of those HDT locomotive drivers caps

  • @---bz5bm
    @---bz5bm 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    just gotta love brocky EIP KING BROCK

  • @velocityjet1884
    @velocityjet1884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6 laps 1979, will never be done

  • @robhint5016
    @robhint5016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was a touring car fan trough this period i was neither a holden fan nor a ford fan i just liked fast cars but there were many times when i thought the holdens were just too fast to fast to believe that driver skills could make up

  • @bayleighbusato2289
    @bayleighbusato2289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect Brock

  • @sanctuaryism
    @sanctuaryism 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    never gonna see these times again.

  • @erlinglarsen
    @erlinglarsen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miss you Brocky ❤

  • @carsstuffchannel8576
    @carsstuffchannel8576 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know what year this was made

  • @corex72
    @corex72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Peter Brock is the real drift king.

  • @peterflynn2111
    @peterflynn2111 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HDT 1969 79 from 1980 to 87 OPEL Dealer Team

  • @domenicozagari2443
    @domenicozagari2443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The torana was the answer to the alfa .

  • @philipduggan9057
    @philipduggan9057 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love Holdens

  • @Rob-fc9wg
    @Rob-fc9wg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:07.
    The good old days!

    • @Rob-fc9wg
      @Rob-fc9wg ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd hate to think what they look like now.

  • @tigertiger1699
    @tigertiger1699 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @donbrashsux
    @donbrashsux 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holden Torana had RTS...amazing

  • @mangrovejack3450
    @mangrovejack3450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5.07 😀

    • @bourbonslurpee
      @bourbonslurpee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      huge drop tanks and big rubber. signature of the 70s ( . )( . )

  • @KennyHall06
    @KennyHall06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:20:30 Haha always give me a giggle

  • @joevandijk2284
    @joevandijk2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Money Talks. How else did they get Weber Carbs on the XU1. Still going on today. Now its if you can;t catch them. Slow them down

  • @christophersewell3522
    @christophersewell3522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes it Chris chie

  • @WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie
    @WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peter Brock australian Clint Eastwood :-)

  • @christophersewell3522
    @christophersewell3522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2021

  • @davidprice7162
    @davidprice7162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont smoke, but kinda feel like one. Anyone got a Marlboro?

  • @thetreblerebel
    @thetreblerebel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What we should of got in the Chevy Vega

  • @gen3v8
    @gen3v8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holdens Gone and the worlds Fucked for a bit

  • @JohnLee-vj9lh
    @JohnLee-vj9lh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How easy did the HDT win Bathurst and touring car races

    • @Mambojambo157
      @Mambojambo157 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well they were always that bit smaller than the lumbering falcons, more agile. That’s where their edge was imo. And after Moffat Bond, Ford never put big money into it.

  • @index6738
    @index6738 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When cars meant excitement. Today...couldn’t give a shit for products that race and nobody can buy off showroom floor.

  • @stevev6002
    @stevev6002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    guy does all the work....some dude polishes cars and gets development credit.

  • @christophersewell3522
    @christophersewell3522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus god arm ivory

  • @niceozyguy
    @niceozyguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st 2econd and third. Fuck yeah

  • @niceozyguy
    @niceozyguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why the gtr was better than the slr

  • @RBFR01
    @RBFR01 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:30 vrrrrrr vrrrrrr vrrrrrr vrrrrrr sounds like ya trying to start a car

  • @gregbassace1
    @gregbassace1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Poor Brockie would be turning in his grave with Holden now dead and buried with him. A sad time for all Australians when we realise how much and what we lost in a former way of life we once had.
    Thanks, John Button. You sure screwed us with your stupid removal of import tariffs to the point where we can’t manufacture anything anymore. 😡

    • @kaindub
      @kaindub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dutton stopped the American owners of Holden and Ford pocketing huge amounts of taxpayer money. The Australian auto industry folded because consumers tastes changed, the economies of production diminished and the owners would not allow sales of locally manufactured overseas in order to keep economies of scale high.

    • @Robbie_Wozzlegummich
      @Robbie_Wozzlegummich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the corrupt unions that had unskilled production line workers on $100K +++

    • @jimmartin9704
      @jimmartin9704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they built better cars, i mean thought about it and put the technology that was as around at the time, not just a new grill and bumper they might of lasted for a bit longer too

    • @kaindub
      @kaindub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The last commodore that Holden produced was a world class car and recognised as such by the motoring industry. Its just that GM did not see Holden as fitting into their global strategy.

    • @Mambojambo157
      @Mambojambo157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bit more complex than that. But it all adds up to failure in the end

  • @lobsterwhisperer7932
    @lobsterwhisperer7932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What was the deal with Ford Sierras being allowed to race and dominate in late 80's?, they weren't even available to the public and ruined the bathurst for me.

  • @BradCollier-zn2uc
    @BradCollier-zn2uc หลายเดือนก่อน

    I stopped watching supercars last year when SVG left for NASCAR. Up the kiwis

  • @joevandijk2284
    @joevandijk2284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How in the world can you claim a bathurst win when you didn't finish in the same car you started. Thank God the bullshit days are gone

    • @garydoeblin2980
      @garydoeblin2980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spoken like a true Ford fan

    • @marcpaola1371
      @marcpaola1371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was in the rules then throught the motorsport world, particularly in Europe. Do some research, I can remember Moffat, Grace, Bowe, Richards all doing it. Johnson even drove all 3 of his Sierra's in the 88 race trying to win in one of them, you only see it as controversial because Brock was the only one good enough to do it and win.

  • @TheGbh1972
    @TheGbh1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a pity that most of the holdens featured are german built Opels .....at least the Aussie Fords are home designed and built lol

    • @javic1979
      @javic1979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      they were built in Australia... Holden was told by gm to use the 1977 Opel Rekord E to save development cost, then used the Opel Senator front to accommodate the larger Holden engines. but testing showed it wasn't strong enough for Australia's poor roads so by the time is was modified it cost the same as if they started with a blank sheet...

    • @beagle7622
      @beagle7622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The XU1 was based on the Holden Torana was a long way from a Vauxhall Viva everything was underneath was Holden. No the Commodore owed it’s body & Chassis design to the Rekord & Senator. The Commodore built here was a different car . Basically everything under the bonnet and the floor was Australian sourced and built. The chassis rails near the transmission tunnel were considerably stronger, all the suspension components were strengthened & upgrade. Engines & transmissions all Holden, brakes locally engineered by Repco PBR. The interior trims were locally designed. The instrument was Australian designed built by VDO in Melbourne. A lot of switches etc were Opel, the indicator stork a stock Holden part. No it wasn’t an Opel. I saw a early a 78 Opel Rekord & Senator, just not the same car. The chief engineer of the V car Chuck Chapman became the MD of Holden in 76.Peter Hanenberger who I believe was Chapman’s 2IC on the V car came to Australia in 76 I think & became Chief mechanical Engineer , his first task improving handling of the Holden Range (Radial Tuned Suspension). From then on the Commodore became more locally engineered although a lot of body designs still came from Opel. No Commodores were never Opel sourced.

    • @VCCOMM
      @VCCOMM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      a quick facts check there cowboy .. opel were gm yeah , but not holden . ford of the era were built here but used a lot of U.S bits too ... so both were sort of copies and parts bin cars .
      so not a pity mate , its motorsport

    • @TheGbh1972
      @TheGbh1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VCCOMM ok pilgrim holden based models on Opels and used chev based 6 cyl motors while scrounging Vauxhall parts ....can you see my point that Ford use's Ford parts and designs from Ford ....FORD brother one name FORD !!! lol

    • @BruceLee-sw4ms
      @BruceLee-sw4ms 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beagle76 ; not sourced from Opel that’s correct. Our Commodore VB to VZ we’re certainly based on the Opel commodore and Opel Omega ( from 1988 ). Using the Opel Floor plan . Side on most people can’t tell the difference , especially from a distance.

  • @user-fx2sh6pk9u
    @user-fx2sh6pk9u ปีที่แล้ว

    Yawn