OMEGA / GRAND SEIKO Costly Lesson
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- I sold my Omega Aqua Terra to part fund the purchase of this Grand Seiko SBGA407
It's a costly lesson that I wont forget in a hurry
Have you ever let go of a watch that you regret?..if so feel free to share in the comments...
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Grand Seiko spring drive automatic move is just on another level
Regular seikos seem to be exactly the same quality
The finishing is much better than the Omega There's also something about the AT design that doesn't work so well as a full package
the seconds hand sweep on spring drive is top tier
@@pantherdddjvdgx no they are not. What you perceive to be the same is a lack of understanding what’s under, what is and what’s on top of the hood
@@pantherdddjvdgxLook at that incredibly smooth second sweep. No other watch in market has that.
This is why I have 11 watches. I've talked about selling, but I haven't been able to bring myself to do it. I don't mind letting a watch sit for a couple of months and then rediscovering it.
This why I have 36 watches! 😂 My collection dates back to 1974 and consist of affordable watches, apart from my grail (Heuer Autavia). I can sell some of my original purchases at a significant profit as I have kept boxes and papers for all, but it never crosses my mind. I now rarely add new pieces to my collection as I enjoy my oldies. 😊 Having said that, I don’t have anything to match any of Pete’s eight watches!
This is why I have 50 watches
You’re probably going to lose money on most watches so just keep it. I’m at 40 right now. Love all of them
@@ItBetterBeFast Very true; but if you hang on to them long enough, they actually seem to gain some value over the long term. For example, I bought two Seiko 6149 chronos, one in 1972 and another in 1974. They cost me less than a $100, and now probably would sell for $800 as I still have original boxes and papers. The same would go for my LordMatic, King Seiko, 6306 Turtle, etc. This is all hypothetical because, as I said, I won’t sell them as they are magnificent timepieces…. but my kids might one day. 😊
I’ve regretted every watch I’ve sold. I’m at 11 and will sell no more. No matter what.
I just took the plunge and i am awaiting delivery of a brand new Grand Seiko Shunbun. It took years of quiet deliberation and contemplation. When i put it on my wrist i knew it was the watch for me. My next is the new diver from grand seiko. No other brand speaks to me as much as Grand Seiko.
That GS is so smooth, the way the seconds hand move from 1 second to the next, it just glides and fly instead of ticking and stopping every second
spring drive baby
Costly mistakes are part of life but you've got it back. You can't put a $$$ value on happiness. Great story thanks for sharing
Takes character and strength to admit a mistake and act accordingly. And also to admit it publicly. Omega also grew unto my heart. They make great quality watches.
I appreciate the Emotional versus Intellectual love and attachment discussion
this video changed my mind about aqua terra. it's on my short list now
Made this mistake far too many times! Another lesson I learnt is to slow down the pace, I'm always on the hunt for the next watch, if I don't have enough fund, I'd just get a cheaper alternative. This has wasted so much of my many, and instead of getting what I really want, I end up settling on cheaper alternatives cuz I'm impatient and the instant gratification really gets to me. Now I keep the watches, give every purchase a meaning (so I'm wayyyy less likely to get rid of them on a whim and regret), and slow down my purchases and save up for the one I really like!
that smooth movement of the GS is pure perfection
I've been collecting watches for the past 10 years and have watches ranging from Cartiers, Omegas and Rolex to Tissots. My absolute favourite watch is the one that made me fall in love with watches, the 1930s Mickey Mouse Watch from the Chicago World Trade Fair. I finally found it in good working condition and I wear it constantly. Watches are ultimately pointless, a £10 Casio is going to be more accurate than the fancy Cartier but that's the beauty of Watches, they make you feel happy and we can admire their beauty. I'm planning on getting into a Spring Drive Grand Seiko later this year and genuinely cannot wait!
I love that Seamaster. Clean dial, elegant design, excellent movement, perfect size and extremely versatile... It just ticks all the boxes for me. Pure class...
That AT is lovely. I have three Omegas, a 1968 Geneve, a 2021 Moonwatch and NTTD. I felt that my collection is complete. I want an AT. And now the new FOIS too.
Gorgeous watches both, but as an avid bird watcher, the real star of this video for me is those Leica binoculars!🤣🥰🤣It seems like it was your destiny to own both the Omega AND the GS, Peter! You just had to take the "scenic drive" route to eventually getting to your inevitable destination! Great video!!
Hahaha, beautifully said.
PS those binoculars are indeed the star of the show..love the old school look through them 👍
Both of them are great, but the Omega is a thing of beauty, and arguably more practical than the Grand Seiko.
I have nearly 50 watches in my budget collection, and there are probably 3 or 4 pieces that leave me thinking "WHY???".
Thing is, I'm still a struggling videographer, but I've been a teacher for over 30 years, so I know that you have to stuff up occasionally - otherwise you're not learning, and what's the good of that?
Thank you this learning/teaching moment, Peter. Cheers 🍻!
@@PeterKotsa swarovski bins any day !
@@brendanroberts4866 Swarovski are the definition of perfection..Ive got a pair of 8x30 Habicht and just sold my 12x50 SV
@@PeterKotsa yes - I have some high end 10x30 - the name escapes me - but they are lovely.
If you're thinking of parting with a piece, try putting it in the box and storing it out of sight first for at least 1 month. If you have withdrawal symptoms for it, it's a mistake to get rid of it.
Good tip
This is a great variant of the general idea that if you have a big decision to make that is not to be offered again, goto sleep that night imagining not taking the opportunity, and when you wake up the next morning see how you feel about your decision.
Honestly, that GS is amazing.
Excellent story. I love how you are disciplined enough to limit your collection. You are able satisfy your thirst for something new and different but manage the budget. Quite smart, something I could learn from. I think you also are able to manage this by using so many different straps, giving each watch a unique look. Love the options you choose. That brown leather strap looks amazing on the AT. Enjoy the GS and can’t wait to see your reviews on that piece.
Don't ever get rid of that Grand Seiko.
Bro its Seiko
@@transikk the same way u and micheal jordan are human
@@scoot5642 still on the dial its seiko
@@transikk pretty sure it’s grand seiko
@ and Suzuki grand Vitara is still just a Suzuki bud
I would say you have a very crafty subconcious. The "costly lesson" gave the chance to own two watches that are in a quite different price catagory than the Sinn. Well done!
They're both gorgeous
You just saved me some grief. I'm looking at the same Grand Seiko and was briefly thinking of selling my Speedmaster. I've now silenced the little man. Great Video!
Glad it helped! 👍 😂
It's such a bad feeling when you come around to realizing you let a watch go that you really loved because you thought you needed to experience something else. I'm living that right now and might re-purchase one of them.
My lesson learnt is..take your time with decisions 👍
I don't think you made a mistake Pete! That GS is beautiful.
Really good point about emotional vs logical decisions. Hobbies are very emotional - it isn't typically about logic...
I have made the exact same mistake a couple months back by selling my green Willard. I still don't know why I rushed into selling that watch, luckily I had some rational thought left in me by keeping the OEM Seiko steel bracelet that I have been using it with and only sold the watch with the original rubber strap. That watch meant so much to me that it felt like it left a void as soon as I sold it. Long and behold I bought the exact same model when I was in Japan last month and fitted the steel bracelet that I still kept for it.
It was a costly mistake but I now feel whole again - safe to say I have found my forever watch.
Thank you for this video, Peter. A tip of the hat for your honesty and humility there. I believe you hit the nail on the head by saying you acted intellectually and not emotionally. I've done that myself with the Orient Kamasu Green dial. I sold it at a loss because I "had to move up." Regretted it and bought another. It cost a bit, but the silver lining is I ended up with one running within COSC out of the box. I think the silver lining for you here is you know you have found one of those rare ideal watches that will be with you well into the future.
correct, well said 👍
One of your best and most heartfelt videos yet!
The Grand Seiko is amaizing !!!
Mate. Great story telling. Love the down to earth honesty and life lessons you impart. Like the older friend I never had.
Keep up the good work champ
That Grand Seiko is still the better watch.
by far
No stupid to conpare
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@@feynex31 if it's stupid to compare, then why watch the video? That's what is really stupid.
They are not really compareable, the Seiko is essentially a quartz watch. I don't understand why people hate quartz watches but act like springdrive is the best thing ever. Also, GS has zero original designs and terrible bracelets. It's not all great.
Thx for the nice video. I'm glad you got your lovely Omega back. We all make mistakes and luckily in this hobby, they can be fixed with a pile of cash 🙂
the spring drive is marvelous ! can't blame you for getting it :D the omega is classy and versatile too. the biggest mistake is to get into this watch hobby =))))
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oh yes, a big interest in watches is fatal, but comes in my side from alone, since a young boy to man
I wear watches for myself. Not for others. However, I will admit that it feels real good to get a compliment on my watch. It sort of gives me confirmation this watch is right for me. There are about 4 watches in my collection that constantly receive good comments from strangers. Congrats on getting your Omega back. I have 5 or 6 Omegas in my collection. I would hate to lose any of them.
The blue GS is just a masterclass. That dial is superb, and omg the sweep of the blue ticker 🥹
Heartfelt honest comments and thanks for this. It has not happened with watches yet, I tend to keep hold of them - I am over-sentimental about them! Two great watches with the GS and Omega by the way - both surefire keepers!
Having a maximum number of watches on your watch collection can be a good thing. However, on a non related topic, I was given the advice that when you want to upgrade your gear, it is a good idea to make sure the upgrade is really an upgrade. Or in this case, buy the new watch and after trying it, decide if is a good substitute for the one you had decided to swap it, or if you'd rather change it for another of your watches, or if you're selling the new one and keeping your old collection.
In hindsight it's easyer to see, but maybe a new rule could be 8 in the collection plus one on "probation" while you decide which are the 8 keepers.
By the way, the aquaterra is a very nice watch, just out of my price league. I'm glad you could manage to keep owning one, as it seems to be a watch you wear and enjoy.
I really like that probation idea!
I have a 2 Year Rule - anything I buy I must keep for 2 years before flipping. It forces me to think about the watch long-term, rather than just the short-term 'that's cool, I need that' hit.
@@duncanhamilton5841 I'll have to add that rule. Very sensible. 👍
Those are both great. I love how you can see the reflections in the GS as you move. The Omega is looking sharp. Both are definitely keepers.
the grand seiko second sweep is so much smoother
I was shocked when you sold the AT. Glad to see it back. We’ve all been there!
I can see why, I've never had a Grand Seiko, and I've had an Omega. But I've wanted a Grand Seiko for a long time! However, that Omega is beautiful.
I've been having that exact AT150 for a few months. Every time I go on a travel, I only want to wear that watch. Not my batgirl gmt, not my speedy, not my 1954. Just because this aqua terra is so versatile and also looks luxury.
I think it’s a good lesson, having things drives angst not happiness, I really like your videos
…the Grand Seiko is beautiful! But you should never get rid of anything you love… Maybe you should consider having one watch in your collection?
That GS is really great !
I don’t sell watches, not even the ones I don’t wear, probably something wrong with me 😮
Same!
If you don't need the money
Buy some extra time 🤣
This was the video that made me fall in love in AT again! Especially eoth that leathet strap. I try to do the impossible: getting the price of that same model in one year, and purchasing that watch. It is impossible because I have to keep 2/3 of my monthly income to get the cost of an AT in a year.
Wow, I love the look of the Omega. It seems to tick all the boxes for a dressy sports watch. It does sound like a costly mistake but at least you have the watch you love back again plus a sensational GS. Fortunately my two watch regrets were with much cheaper Seikos. The first with a stunning, discontinued, green-sunburst dial kinetic which I gave to my sister which she adores. I now get watch envy every time I see her. Secondly a metal bracelet version of the ubiquitous Seiko SNK809 which I gave to my friend. Fortunately it was only £90 to buy another one - huge difference to your costly faux pas!
Well said. I own a seiko 5 dive watch and absolutely love it. At some point was about to sell it, posted it in fb for extremely high price suitable for that model n then canceled the sale.
Know that feel bro.. Few years ago I sold Seiko Alpinist. Reunion after al these years feeeels good.
You will get more brand recognition from the general person with the Omega, and if you like people to notice your watch and comment it’s more a more mainstream choice; but for anyone into watches the GS is another level; comments will come from people who love watches.
Well said
Thanks. Haven’t sold any of mine, but considering letting go of my Planet Ocean and Santos.
I remember going through the same feelings when a Snowflake I wanted was within the resale window of my Planet Ocean. I was very close to making the swap, but decided to go on holiday with the PO as a sort of “farewell tour”. Afterwards, I realized what a dingus I was, and told myself to hold on to the Omega and just patiently save up for the GS. I’m so glad I did! Thanks for sharing your experience 😊
Thank you for sharing 👍
Appreciated
FYI: The Skyflake works great with the Tudor BB58 Blue leather strap and deployant, I know the strap is 20mm v the 19mm GS strap but it fits no problem. I had this combo for the past year and a half and it really stands out.
We watch people are odd. Those watches basically look identical to anybody who isn't a watch nerd. Reminds me of the old Emo Philips comedian joke. He had a red and black jacket on and he says, getting kind of warm, let me take this off. He takes the jacket off and he has a thin sweater underneath with the exact same colors and pattern. It gets a laugh for him. I was basically just laughing at you for the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I love both watches and I get it but Imma watch nerd also. What a group we are... 😅
@@john-carlosynostroza Instantly notice that only one has lume. If you keep the watch for 40 years, that will become the main difference.
I think we all have similar stories to this. Thanks for sharing by the way! I’m having this exact problem right now. I only have 3-5 at one time. I bought a new watch that I thought I would fund with the sale of another. I don’t want to sell it because I love it, but that was the plan. I figure these two are too similar. For now I’m holding off, but I too like having watch collecting rules in place so that I don’t get carried away.
I just bought the 75th anniversary Aqua Terra (the 41mm). My first serious watch and I love it! The blue dial does have a bit of a GS vibe, so I won’t suffer the same conflict you did 😂
Everyone watch you buy should be a good one for your collection. I own 20 and have never sold any..btw I am also an omega fan so I get it. I have both Seamaster prof 300 with blue dial and the legendary speedmaster although I am only wear mines on Sundays. Cheers bro 😊
Great advice, hats off to your openness letting us know your error. We all make mistakes, the secret is to learn from them. Which you quickly rectified, albeit with a financial penalty. Enjoy that great collection.
Love that Omega, Sir. Looks great on strap and bracelet. Peace & Prosperity, Mate!
Hi Peter, I totally understand your message. It goes with the territory and is part of the joy of this hobby.
It be like that, i still regret selling my 90s quartz omega bond seamaster midsize til this day. I got it for $800 in beautiful condition a few years ago and sold it off to fund another watch and never was able to find another one for that price ever again. Couldnt bring myself to rebuy one at the current prices theyre going for, lesson learned
i got the orient star limited edition and boy does it make me feel privileged by wearing it, i love it
I totally understand you because you LOVE your watches!
Exact same story here, but mine Aqua Terra has a blue dial. The new owner left my house and I regretted it instantly. 3 months later and a 600 euro surcharge and I had the AT back in the collection. Lessons learnt 😅
Thanks for sharing, that was deep ! A grand Seiko is my dream watch but in the end it is about what you love
Love the aqua terra. I just picked up the green dial 38 mm version yesterday
Great stuff, enjoy 👍
Pete you are killing me here… I want this and every-time I watch your videos on it I want it more!!! I have more than enough watches but I keep thinking about this one and I now must have it :)
After 6 yesrs of procrastinating, i finally decided to sell off most of my watches. I started in Jan of 2020. It took almost 2.5 years, but i sold 200+ pieces. Now I keep it to 12 watches, no more, no less. One out, one in. Seems to be working! Cheers.
i only have some of Casio and Gshock, i can never afford these two watches. my eyes keep going back to that GS, the secondhand is so smooth that it's mesmerizing to look at, i could just stare at it forever. it's really puzzling that some people on the internet are hating on GS saying something like it's basic, soulless etc whatever those words mean. that watch movement literally just snatch my soul away lmao.
THANKS FOR THE HONESTY! JUST STAY TRUTHFUL! You will never go wrong with that. Thanks. A few weeks back.... with answering me directly with a watch strap question I had.
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totally agree, done it many times! I also do the same with Motorcycles 🤔 😂 Great video as ever!
Appreciate the honest assessment. I think many of us have been there! All part of the journey.
That omega is sooo classy. But oh my goodness the GS has a drop dead gorgeous blue dial. I need it 😢
The GS movement and dial are stunning.
The Grand Seiko outclasses the Omega in every respect. It frankly makes the Omega look pedestrian and like a Seiko 5 side by side.
Hi Peter. Your video had me smiling. Minutes before watching it I was on the Omega website looking at the exact watch you sold and had to buy again. I'm a new watch enthusiast and have decided to try and get my watch collection going. I'm on a budget, so a watch like the Omega Seamaster will be a significant purchase for me. I appreciate you mentioning having a watch limit and not exceeding it. I think I'll implement the same approach with a 6-8 watch collection. I'm hoping to buy a "luxury" watch from what what I have learned are the 3 big countries for watch making. Swiss, German and Japanese. Swiss will be the Omega Aqua Terra, Japanese will be a Grand Seiko Spring drive and German will be a Glaschutte Original Sixties Panorama Date. The other watches will have to be much more budget friendly. Thanks for the content.
Good to see you implementing some rules for your collection. Dsicipline is the key to not getting lost in this hobby 👍
The grey dial AT (they call it grey, but it's more silvery) is the most beautiful imo. But they only made it in 40. If they ever do it in 38 I may just have to capture it into my modest collection.
Getting compliments on a watch will automatically elevate it for you for better or worse.
Most important, you are happy again and always there is a lesson to learn. Watches are impulsive buys with emotional results. Im still looking for my next purchase if there is one waiting for me......
I am "Jonesing" for a Spring Drive! The AquaTerra is beautiful and also on my list. I have Omega 2222.80 I wouldn't trade it for all the money in the world...Almost. Expensive lesson, but don't you feel better(?)
Yep, absolutely
Omega IS the movement! Daniels... innovation in design and accuracy (METAS).
Great video. I like that you cap your watch number, and then feed your hobby by replacing them. I also like that you found an economic commitment amount and you are content with it. As you said, it works for you. Moreover, something about you video makes both of these watches more attractive than the canned close ups--they both look great. perhaps I just like the style. But great job, either way. It seems you appreciate your Omega now even more than if you never sold it!
I think it is a win win. Your viewer got a watch, you got a new watch and bought the old watch again, and you made a video I really enjoyed watching. The only advice I can give you is that instead of settling on 8 watches you must increase it to 9 for your collection. I think you might buy a similar Sinn that you sold because of Sellers regret.
Oh no, not another Sinn...😂
Thank you for this video. Not only you learnt a lesson, which is great, but you also made us think and learn, which I think has infinite value (you can't measure it ❤).
I'm starting my collection, I have like 9 watches, and in the beginning you want so many watches and you get easily influenced by everything, especially with social media...
I guess I have to calm down 😅😅
That GS is amazing. Wonder why it doesn’t get the glamour it deserves.
I sold a "grail watch" of mine (solid yellow gold chronoswiss Opus) to fund a 41mm Rolex Wimbledon 2tone rose/jubilee/fluted.
I dont regret the swap, but im pretty sure i will buy another Opus on leather strap not too far down the way. Its BEAUTIFUL. Its the absokute perfect dress watch and conversation piece. Try wearing one to a wedding or formal gala.
I've tried on that exact white dial AT a few times now, and it's seemingly a perfect watch. My only minor complaint, and one that makes me hesitate on the purchase, is the thickness or even more so the appearance of the thickness on the wrist. I think on paper it's not too much thicker than a Datejust, but the case sides of the Omega wear tall for the 38mm size. I just wish Omega would slim down their watches a bit. Finally, one Omega, the new Speedmaster, is thinner than the predecessor, and for a Chronograph, it actually wears fairly thin, a bit more than the last generation. It's noticeable on the wrist. Other than thickness, I absolutely love the 38mm white AT. It looks so good.
I admire your self control, i would have bought A larger watch box.
😊😂
Bingo! That's what I've done. I'm still trying to sell some of my original entry level watches, but I apparently don't know how. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.
When I decided to get into this hobby I had 2 40 year old Rolex Datejust’s, one all SS and one two tone SS/gold. I had the boxes, original paperwork and everything. I sold/traded the SS for ~$4500 (paid $510 in ‘82) worth Carrera, Tissot and a micro brand diver. Instantly regretted it. Not that I don’t like the other pieces, I do and I wear them all, but what a stupid move. Need I say more? 😢
Yes. I would have regretted that.
Wear my 1973 DJ every Sunday and Christmas.
Somebody got a screaming good buy.
Sounds like it wasn’t really a mistake. Both beautiful and amazing watches.
the omega with the green strap - beautiful
I've watched this video a few times since it's release. And to date, learnt a fair bit on watch collecting mistakes and regrets.
Every watch collected has its story, time, effort and money spent on earning the watch... It's reaching the point of hoarding (rather than collecting) and need to start letting go of some timepieces that have long been neglected.
Takes discipline to keep to that 7... Maybe 11 🤞🏻😅
Spring drive is beautiful
That's what I did for the VC patriomony, and I may well doing that for the Rolex YM and Kermit..
I let a great car go because I was impulsive. No unwinding that decision. Like you, I learned from it and have made better choices since..
Did the same mistake 4 times, with a Cocktail Time, a PADI, an I.N.O.X and a Colt and bought them again later!
Did it with other watches, but didn't buy them again.
Now I try to reduce my collection piece after piece, and being really careful about my choices, when I buy but also when I sell.
That grand seiko on the nylon strap is gorgeous.
Great video. I really just started collecting watches this year so its great to learn important lessons as early as I can.
I regret letting go of my GS SBGA413. Been missing her eversince
Everytime I see a video from you with the Omega I am so tempted to buy one for myself … damn 😂
Love my Grand Seiko easily the best finished watch in my collection
I love my GS Cherry Blossom as a robust accurate daily watch, but would not have got rid of that Omega to buy it.
you've given good advice, good video.