Undesignate now centers the tpod. One crappy work-around is to set the AO as a waypoint, then every time you waypoint designate, you get roughly back to where you started.
Great guide on such a complex topic, hope you're not getting bored with them constantly making changes, hopefully you have the energy to do a 'complete' guide in a half a years time or so when things quiet down.. :)
I made a tutorial of the exact same thing for my squadron mates when the TPOD first released. Such a cool thing to do, but requires quick key movements to get all bombs on target before they all move
Thanks. I wondered why I couldn't strike 8 targets at once, I tried many times after I struggled with understanding STA and PP sections. I figured but result was the same - 3 or 4 targets at best, many of them bombed twice. Was very frustrating
Is a target programmed into PP? if it has no co-ordinates set, it may be jumping to the origin of the map or something strange as it has no target to slave to. I'l be taking a look at the recent changes to the TGP soon.
@Redkite @Mani Zaeim. I agree. I would love to see a TWS tortorial from you. I see you have Wagners video up, but his is more of a quick review than a tortorial. Would you please cover the TWS and sub radar modes and which commands to set up on the stick. TDC etc... Thanks man, Love your video's. Infact, I think all that I know about the Hornet is based off of you and Grim Reapers.
It's better to use markpoints now, for each target desginate, then hit the markpoint button on the SA page. Then for each mark point select waypoint designate and pickle.
3:56 FWIW at least to my mind it makes more sense if PP1s on each station are targets 1-4, since those are the first drops, then PP2s being targets 5-8. Not that it really matters in practice...
No longer works with TGP. Either ED broke something, either they changed something. Pressing undesignate unhook the TGP making it impossible for multiple TOO JDAMs drop on a single run.
I have 2 JSOWS on station 8 and 2. I selected both stations in quantity tab. When I input coordinates in PP1 on station 8 and hit step it goes to station 8 PP2. After I click on PP2 it is X out even though I have elevation and coordinates in correct format. Station hits same target as well even though separate coordinates. Can you help? I’ve spent about 10 hours trying to figure this out. You explained the process but in hyper speed so I couldn’t really understand it. No problem with single rack and single JSOW. Just double.
GPS weapons appear to be bugged, at least for me. Cannot select any of the PP sets, stepping automatically moves me back to TOO mode and the coordinates no longer transfers from TOO to PP mode while switching the modes. I basically have to either manually input coordinates in PP or hot swap coordinates in TOO mode with target waypoints
when yousing pp mode you don't need to select qty stations, if you do, it changes to TOO mode whenever you step. When you use PP mode step changes stations even though they are not selected. TOO coordinates transfer to PP mode was a bug and has been disabled. My personal trick is good old pen and paper and manually enter the targets into PP. TOO does not support BRU double mount stations.
Thanks for keeping on top of this and updating us Mr Kite. While I've got this to work (thanks to your previous video), I've always found this a bit confusing. Not that intuitive IMHO.
Enter zero, it'll then jump up to the level of the ground. It's measured in altitude above sea level, not above ground level, so it won't stay at zero.
@@RedKiteRender Wow I didn't expect a reply from the man himself, thank you very much. Really appreciate the helpful content, is a lot of fun learning DCS
Great guide. It's a real shame that deploying weapons such as this is the most clunky unintuitive process ever. I can't imagine having to use the mouse and the pickle button at the same time.
@@RedKiteRender Yes, I've been looking for an ambidextrous trackball for a while, but boy, they can be really expensive. So I figured just getting used to using the mouse with my left hand would do for now :)
Hello! What is the height of using JDAM? Why do my JDAMs miss large hangars with a 50/50 chance from above 30,000 feet? Precisely I do everything as in the manual, it definitely hits the video for everyone. I also enter decimals in PP mode or exactly in the center of the hangar in TOO mode.
Release height shouldn't matter, however, distance does, if you're dropping the bombs very close to the target your bomb will risk overshooting, too far and it'll undershoot. If you're attacking a target on a hillside it'll be less accurate too. In the advanced settings you can change the terminal guidance impact angle, setting this to a vertical impact will reduce max launch range, but should reduce 'Circular Error Probable' Should note JDAMs are simply less accurate than Laser guided, making tanks harder to hit. (and why laser bombs still get used even today)
This doesn't seem to work for me, with JSOW. Maybe things have changed or updates changed things? I was super careful with my precision waypoints but still not go. They always miss however they never miss if using the lighting pod.
This video is a little outdated now. Precision waypoints with WPDSG in TOO should work just fine still, main changes are to the TOO1/2 and PP / station logic. The manually entered PP method should still work, but each station has it's own set of pp/too targets now. Just bare in mind that JDAMs have a circular error probable (CEP) of about 5 meters, so it's entirely possible to miss a tank, even with perfect co-ords. I'm not sure if it was implemented, but fire the laser at your target before taking co-ords and it should provide a better range solution and, more accurate co-ordinates.
@@RedKiteRender manually entered PP method works fine. Precision waypoints with WPDSG in TOO are way off normally fall south of the target or do strange things, like fly right over and then turn in circles. I may just be doing something wrong, not 100% but the PP method or using targeting pod work fine, I just really would like to use that TTO Precision waypoints method. -Maybe i should add If i set up TOO waypoints in the mission editor they do work perfectly but not if I manually setup Precision waypoints from within the cockpit and use those.
I like your guides,but If I tryed set TOO Waypoints I couldnt hit targets with all bombs only with 2.So I made my own mission and tryed to sort it that and I found reason.It is not in your videos,but I had to sign all stores using STEP to TOO mod and then all bombs had been signed for each Waypoint.I did it like in your video and sign just one store to TOO and that I found rest of storages had been in PP mod.Anyway I learn lot from your videos as allways.THX.
Which button is TDC undesignate? My DCS is german so I just have TDC press but no undesignate or similar, so I can't use the TOO with TPOD and two targets...
@@RedKiteRender No actually not (I have the Cage Button on my throttle). But well, then I was doing it right but there appears to be a controls-binding problem I have to investigate. Thanks for your help!
Just had a thought, are you using WPDSG to put your tgp onto waypoints then pressing undesignate? because that would cause the tgp to go to snowplow (a bug in the most recent open beta version) If that's the case avoid using the TGP WPDSG slave mode, its work in progress and hardly functional.
I use Thrustmaster MFDs and plan to build some sort of UFC sometime, in the meantime i use numpad, but for videos i like to insure i click on things for visibility.
You can select PP1, then go to TOO, lock target in TGP and switch back to PP. It will be saved there. then select PP2 and repeat. Thats for each pylon....
@@RedKiteRender That explains a lot, I was trying this as it is described in one of your videos and even chucks guide (dropping four JDAMS at once at four targets) but it never worked. So it was a bug and not a feature indeed ;) At least I did nothing wrong probably ...
@@kilux85 most recent update patch notes didn't include anything related to this so that "bug" should still work. Also I personally will be extremely pissed if they remove the "bug" before having the TOO mode work correctly.
I take my comment back. The bug has been fixed :( Is there a reason they don't include everything in changes list for updates? How can I see ALL changes for EVERYTHING?
@@TealJosh I've created Git repository and copy all lua files there every patch and it show all changes :D Sadly, changes in FM and cockpit logics wont be seen. For example - last patch they changed Mk-84 characteristics and impact point calculation coefficients
Just once if you've got qty 4, but you can never drop on more than 4 at a time, so, for 8, you'd pickle once, then step through stations set PP2 then pickle once more.
No mentioning that TOO targets can be used to set PP targets, because they will inherit the current TOO target? 1 Select desired PP program 2 Switch to TOO mode 3 Designate Target with Pod or by WPTDSG 4 Switch to PP mode 5 The selected PP program is now set up for that target. 6 Switch PP program, if you wish to save more. 7 Switch back to TOO mode. 8 Repeat from step 3. At least it worked a couple months ago.
Hey red, thanks for the awesome guide! There’s a reason why I watch you ;) I do have a quick question about the index: How do you record with it? I have tried jabbers method but it doesnt get great results. Maybe you could do a video about your graphics settings with it and how you record. I think for newer users it might be useful :)
I use OBS and the OpenVR input plugin to record VR. I'm not 100% happy with it and am still working on improving my own VR recording processes, it's not something i do often, so I've not put a huge amount of time into developing a process.
Sounds like similar to what RAZBAM is trying to do with the Harrier. I couldn't believe using GPS weapons was really was this "clunky" , but I have to remember the way some fly in DCS is totally different from real life procedures. If someone IRL is going to carry that many JSOWs, there's going to be some serious planning rather than wandering and finding stuff to throw money at.
Real life pilots have their targets and missions carefully planned and setup on the computer prior to take off, we just kind of wing it most of the time!
how about the game actually works, waypoints randomly refuse to be assigned to weapons, meaning gps guided weapons like this just fly into the ground rather than home in on a waypoint that took ages to key in
kinda sucks that waypoint designate is limited to TOO mode. Allowing PP mode to also take advantage of it would've made things easier since you could easily plan out your entire strike route straight from the mission editor.
Markpoints can be used to quickly save targets for jdams/jsows, still have the hassel of incrementing waypoint, waypoint desg but it beats typing out co-ordinates.
0:27 Those are some dedicated SPG crews, rather than flooring it in an attempt to avoid JDAMs they are determined to send out one last shot before their demise :D
Your tutorial is great for DCS. But ED made this so weird I lost all interest for Hornet. It's better simulated on VRS Super Hornet on FSX. And being an early block F/A-18E, the weapon system is almost the same as late block F/A-18C. And if you look for it in Google, you can check it for how it does work on the C.
Out of curiosity, what do you think ED made weird? Because to me looks a bit odd that you prefer to spend a lot o cash (VRS super bug + tacpack) to turn FSX (outdated sim) into something close to a combat sim (event with tacpack there's lots of limitations), when DCS already gives that by default.
Dang this is so misleading... Would be much simpler to display and allow assign of individual coordinates / waypoints to each bomb, like STA1-1 / STA1-2 / STA2-1 / STA2-2 etc... I wonder if the real jet is like that or if this is due to early access. I've had to replay a few times in order for my slow brain to understand it all XD thanks for the tuto man :)
AFAIK there isn't just "one way" to do this and it all depends on the computer software and hardware implemented in the jet IRL. Because this plane is relatively old, so are it's computer systems. Block Upgrades upgrade them continuously, sure, but they then need to be compatible with the old weapons as well. If you want to know why this might be an issue, try to interface an old Atari 2600 with your modern Windows based machine, hell, even older windows based machines working on the same CPU instruction set might cause problems... So they are indeed quite a bit limited in how they can upgrade their weapons. The memory and controller interface for the bombs is situated in the pylon, it doesn't actually seem to have the capability to know how many bombs are suspended on it, or at least assign them individual data. Same with setting LGB lasercodes PER PYLON, not per bomb. This is AFAIK realistic to some extend. Later jets and software packages might have remedied this behavior, but I have neither the most recent version of NATOPS manual in hand, nor any other documentation I could quickly cross reference. And I'm pretty certain very few pilots actually trained for such a maneuver.
If they would implement a proper DTC like BMS has this could be done like in Real Life and a million times simpler. DCS will never overtake BMS until they do it.
It's on the list of things to come, we did see a tease some time back, but it's probably going to be a whiles yet. BMS's mission planning is really handy yes.
Your guides are easily and by far THE BEST. Clear, great visual aids, no junk.
Thanks Redkite for always planning your tutorials so carefully. Plus that voice. We love you.
5:35 When i press undesignate the information for TOO 1 just disappears and i lose ground lock
05:31 when i press undesignate, it remove coordinates from the TOO
Nice guide RedKite, thank you
They really need to implement a Memory Unit from the F10 map/ mission editor.. Good video.
Undesignate now centers the tpod. One crappy work-around is to set the AO as a waypoint, then every time you waypoint designate, you get roughly back to where you started.
How come whenever I undesignated, my FLIR loses track and I have to find the target again?
the same is happening for me...did you get around this issue?
@@TFE6979 Hmm think I did but I cannot remember now lol
Great guide on such a complex topic, hope you're not getting bored with them constantly making changes, hopefully you have the energy to do a 'complete' guide in a half a years time or so when things quiet down.. :)
I made a tutorial of the exact same thing for my squadron mates when the TPOD first released. Such a cool thing to do, but requires quick key movements to get all bombs on target before they all move
Thnx. It realy helped. Your flowcharts is a very good idea.
Lovely tutorial, Kite, as always.
Wish you and your loved ones a merry Christmas.*
Thanks. I wondered why I couldn't strike 8 targets at once, I tried many times after I struggled with understanding STA and PP sections. I figured but result was the same - 3 or 4 targets at best, many of them bombed twice. Was very frustrating
It's been a bit of a pain using JDAMS/JSOWS on the hornet, the behaviour has changed several times during development so far!
@@RedKiteRender Thanks to you, my personal tutorial got all structured. I can finally try again knowing exactly what to do!
After the latest update where we now can slave the TGP to the WPDSG and TVI, why does the TGP "jump around" when going to PP- mode?
Is a target programmed into PP? if it has no co-ordinates set, it may be jumping to the origin of the map or something strange as it has no target to slave to. I'l be taking a look at the recent changes to the TGP soon.
It seems this has been obsoleted, as you apparently can have separate TOO for all stations now.
Hope you can provide tutorials on TWS, ACM and Dogfights modes
@Redkite @Mani Zaeim. I agree. I would love to see a TWS tortorial from you. I see you have Wagners video up, but his is more of a quick review than a tortorial. Would you please cover the TWS and sub radar modes and which commands to set up on the stick. TDC etc... Thanks man, Love your video's. Infact, I think all that I know about the Hornet is based off of you and Grim Reapers.
It's better to use markpoints now, for each target desginate, then hit the markpoint button on the SA page. Then for each mark point select waypoint designate and pickle.
i switch to PP2 after dropping the PP1 JSOW yet they go for the same target, why’s that?
3:56 FWIW at least to my mind it makes more sense if PP1s on each station are targets 1-4, since those are the first drops, then PP2s being targets 5-8. Not that it really matters in practice...
If STEP is pressed in TOO mode, why does the station remain unchanged and change to PP mode?
Bug
No longer works with TGP. Either ED broke something, either they changed something. Pressing undesignate unhook the TGP making it impossible for multiple TOO JDAMs drop on a single run.
did you find another way of making this work?
I have 2 JSOWS on station 8 and 2. I selected both stations in quantity tab. When I input coordinates in PP1 on station 8 and hit step it goes to station 8 PP2. After I click on PP2 it is X out even though I have elevation and coordinates in correct format. Station hits same target as well even though separate coordinates. Can you help? I’ve spent about 10 hours trying to figure this out. You explained the process but in hyper speed so I couldn’t really understand it. No problem with single rack and single JSOW. Just double.
Good job cracking that. I wonder how much easier this is in the real jet
GPS weapons appear to be bugged, at least for me. Cannot select any of the PP sets, stepping automatically moves me back to TOO mode and the coordinates no longer transfers from TOO to PP mode while switching the modes. I basically have to either manually input coordinates in PP or hot swap coordinates in TOO mode with target waypoints
when yousing pp mode you don't need to select qty stations, if you do, it changes to TOO mode whenever you step. When you use PP mode step changes stations even though they are not selected. TOO coordinates transfer to PP mode was a bug and has been disabled. My personal trick is good old pen and paper and manually enter the targets into PP. TOO does not support BRU double mount stations.
Thanks for keeping on top of this and updating us Mr Kite. While I've got this to work (thanks to your previous video), I've always found this a bit confusing. Not that intuitive IMHO.
How do you set the way point to ground level in ME? Best I can get is just under 100ft above the ground.
Enter zero, it'll then jump up to the level of the ground. It's measured in altitude above sea level, not above ground level, so it won't stay at zero.
@@RedKiteRender Wow I didn't expect a reply from the man himself, thank you very much. Really appreciate the helpful content, is a lot of fun learning DCS
Simply the best ! thx guy =) nice vidéo again
Great guide.
It's a real shame that deploying weapons such as this is the most clunky unintuitive process ever. I can't imagine having to use the mouse and the pickle button at the same time.
It's more practical if you have an thrustmaster mfd, but it's more a work around as real world they wouldn't do this way.
That's why I use my mouse with the left hand. So I never have to take my hand of the stick
@@eXX0n Not a bad shout, i know some people who have track balls mounted next to their throttles for the same purpose.
@@RedKiteRender Yes, I've been looking for an ambidextrous trackball for a while, but boy, they can be really expensive.
So I figured just getting used to using the mouse with my left hand would do for now :)
@@eXX0n idea of touch screen might help too xD. Using ur left hand to literally touch the controls.
Hello! What is the height of using JDAM? Why do my JDAMs miss large hangars with a 50/50 chance from above 30,000 feet? Precisely I do everything as in the manual, it definitely hits the video for everyone. I also enter decimals in PP mode or exactly in the center of the hangar in TOO mode.
Release height shouldn't matter, however, distance does, if you're dropping the bombs very close to the target your bomb will risk overshooting, too far and it'll undershoot. If you're attacking a target on a hillside it'll be less accurate too.
In the advanced settings you can change the terminal guidance impact angle, setting this to a vertical impact will reduce max launch range, but should reduce 'Circular Error Probable' Should note JDAMs are simply less accurate than Laser guided, making tanks harder to hit. (and why laser bombs still get used even today)
@@RedKiteRender Thanks friend! I will try.
This doesn't seem to work for me, with JSOW. Maybe things have changed or updates changed things? I was super careful with my precision waypoints but still not go. They always miss however they never miss if using the lighting pod.
This video is a little outdated now. Precision waypoints with WPDSG in TOO should work just fine still, main changes are to the TOO1/2 and PP / station logic. The manually entered PP method should still work, but each station has it's own set of pp/too targets now.
Just bare in mind that JDAMs have a circular error probable (CEP) of about 5 meters, so it's entirely possible to miss a tank, even with perfect co-ords.
I'm not sure if it was implemented, but fire the laser at your target before taking co-ords and it should provide a better range solution and, more accurate co-ordinates.
@@RedKiteRender manually entered PP method works fine. Precision waypoints with WPDSG in TOO are way off normally fall south of the target or do strange things, like fly right over and then turn in circles.
I may just be doing something wrong, not 100% but the PP method or using targeting pod work fine, I just really would like to use that TTO Precision waypoints method. -Maybe i should add If i set up TOO waypoints in the mission editor they do work perfectly but not if I manually setup Precision waypoints from within the cockpit and use those.
@@bakermiaz Sounds like ED may of broken the GPS guidance again
@@RedKiteRender its ok I was doing something wrong. TOO with my Precision waypoints works fine, I was using the wrong Precision waypoint format
I like your guides,but If I tryed set TOO Waypoints I couldnt hit targets with all bombs only with 2.So I made my own mission and tryed to sort it that and I found reason.It is not in your videos,but I had to sign all stores using STEP to TOO mod and then all bombs had been signed for each Waypoint.I did it like in your video and sign just one store to TOO and that I found rest of storages had been in PP mod.Anyway I learn lot from your videos as allways.THX.
Which button is TDC undesignate? My DCS is german so I just have TDC press but no undesignate or similar, so I can't use the TOO with TPOD and two targets...
The button that controls nose wheel steering also acts as undesignate when airborne
@@RedKiteRender Thanks for answering, but in my hornet the nws button always sets the tpod to snow-plow position?
@@TheMalek_CH That sounds like you're hitting the cage / uncage button?
@@RedKiteRender No actually not (I have the Cage Button on my throttle). But well, then I was doing it right but there appears to be a controls-binding problem I have to investigate. Thanks for your help!
Just had a thought, are you using WPDSG to put your tgp onto waypoints then pressing undesignate? because that would cause the tgp to go to snowplow (a bug in the most recent open beta version) If that's the case avoid using the TGP WPDSG slave mode, its work in progress and hardly functional.
You dont use your numpad to enter coordinates?
I use Thrustmaster MFDs and plan to build some sort of UFC sometime, in the meantime i use numpad, but for videos i like to insure i click on things for visibility.
Hi @Redkite how do you have the Step button up, for some reason it's not there for me and i am in PP mode
You need to select qty more than one.
@@RedKiteRender yeah turns out i totally forgot about the qty pushbutton and that i had to select all stations. thanksnfor replying :)
You can select PP1, then go to TOO, lock target in TGP and switch back to PP. It will be saved there.
then select PP2 and repeat. Thats for each pylon....
That was confirmed as a bug and has or will be removed, haven't checked the current patch yet.
@@RedKiteRender That explains a lot, I was trying this as it is described in one of your videos and even chucks guide (dropping four JDAMS at once at four targets) but it never worked. So it was a bug and not a feature indeed ;) At least I did nothing wrong probably ...
@@kilux85 most recent update patch notes didn't include anything related to this so that "bug" should still work. Also I personally will be extremely pissed if they remove the "bug" before having the TOO mode work correctly.
I take my comment back. The bug has been fixed :( Is there a reason they don't include everything in changes list for updates? How can I see ALL changes for EVERYTHING?
@@TealJosh I've created Git repository and copy all lua files there every patch and it show all changes :D Sadly, changes in FM and cockpit logics wont be seen.
For example - last patch they changed Mk-84 characteristics and impact point calculation coefficients
So in TOO mode, will the bomb seek a target within a certain radius of the waypoin co-ords, or will it just drop directly on the co-ord?
For the pre-planned salvo attack: do you have to press the weapon release button 4 times or is it possible to release the 4 bombs simultaneously?
Just once if you've got qty 4, but you can never drop on more than 4 at a time, so, for 8, you'd pickle once, then step through stations set PP2 then pickle once more.
That bombing raid in the end of the video. :O
No mentioning that TOO targets can be used to set PP targets, because they will inherit the current TOO target?
1 Select desired PP program
2 Switch to TOO mode
3 Designate Target with Pod or by WPTDSG
4 Switch to PP mode
5 The selected PP program is now set up for that target.
6 Switch PP program, if you wish to save more.
7 Switch back to TOO mode.
8 Repeat from step 3.
At least it worked a couple months ago.
Is a bug
@@RedKiteRender I see.
great vid as usual. believe it or not, my neighbor's ass got a JDAM once. and got a promotion
good tutorial, I assume pickle means weapon release?
Yes indeed, the radio brevity, and nickname for the weapons release button.
@@RedKiteRender ty!
Hey red, thanks for the awesome guide! There’s a reason why I watch you ;) I do have a quick question about the index: How do you record with it? I have tried jabbers method but it doesnt get great results. Maybe you could do a video about your graphics settings with it and how you record. I think for newer users it might be useful :)
I use OBS and the OpenVR input plugin to record VR. I'm not 100% happy with it and am still working on improving my own VR recording processes, it's not something i do often, so I've not put a huge amount of time into developing a process.
RedKite Thanks for the reply, I’ll check it out.
No longer works with tgp
Confirmed.
Sounds like similar to what RAZBAM is trying to do with the Harrier. I couldn't believe using GPS weapons was really was this "clunky" , but I have to remember the way some fly in DCS is totally different from real life procedures. If someone IRL is going to carry that many JSOWs, there's going to be some serious planning rather than wandering and finding stuff to throw money at.
Real life pilots have their targets and missions carefully planned and setup on the computer prior to take off, we just kind of wing it most of the time!
how about the game actually works, waypoints randomly refuse to be assigned to weapons, meaning gps guided weapons like this just fly into the ground rather than home in on a waypoint that took ages to key in
kinda sucks that waypoint designate is limited to TOO mode. Allowing PP mode to also take advantage of it would've made things easier since you could easily plan out your entire strike route straight from the mission editor.
Markpoints can be used to quickly save targets for jdams/jsows, still have the hassel of incrementing waypoint, waypoint desg but it beats typing out co-ordinates.
0:27 Those are some dedicated SPG crews, rather than flooring it in an attempt to avoid JDAMs they are determined to send out one last shot before their demise :D
they can't quickly move when set up to fire, especially when all were hit within a span of 10 secs
JF-17 Videos soon :) ?
Your tutorial is great for DCS. But ED made this so weird I lost all interest for Hornet.
It's better simulated on VRS Super Hornet on FSX.
And being an early block F/A-18E, the weapon system is almost the same as late block F/A-18C.
And if you look for it in Google, you can check it for how it does work on the C.
Out of curiosity, what do you think ED made weird? Because to me looks a bit odd that you prefer to spend a lot o cash (VRS super bug + tacpack) to turn FSX (outdated sim) into something close to a combat sim (event with tacpack there's lots of limitations), when DCS already gives that by default.
Dang this is so misleading... Would be much simpler to display and allow assign of individual coordinates / waypoints to each bomb, like STA1-1 / STA1-2 / STA2-1 / STA2-2 etc... I wonder if the real jet is like that or if this is due to early access. I've had to replay a few times in order for my slow brain to understand it all XD thanks for the tuto man :)
AFAIK there isn't just "one way" to do this and it all depends on the computer software and hardware implemented in the jet IRL.
Because this plane is relatively old, so are it's computer systems. Block Upgrades upgrade them continuously, sure, but they then need to be compatible with the old weapons as well.
If you want to know why this might be an issue, try to interface an old Atari 2600 with your modern Windows based machine, hell, even older windows based machines working on the same CPU instruction set might cause problems...
So they are indeed quite a bit limited in how they can upgrade their weapons. The memory and controller interface for the bombs is situated in the pylon, it doesn't actually seem to have the capability to know how many bombs are suspended on it, or at least assign them individual data. Same with setting LGB lasercodes PER PYLON, not per bomb.
This is AFAIK realistic to some extend.
Later jets and software packages might have remedied this behavior, but I have neither the most recent version of NATOPS manual in hand, nor any other documentation I could quickly cross reference.
And I'm pretty certain very few pilots actually trained for such a maneuver.
*cries in mission designer*
I always prefer tgp for coordinates.. much faster.
Why are you using the keypad to punch in gps cords instead of tdc depress? Masochist?
You can't input PP targets with the TDC, use TOO for that.
@@RedKiteRender I've done it. You need to undesignate before using step.
@@EricJaakkola Eric Jaakkola It shouldn't be possible anymore. It had been working before, but was confirmed as a bug.
I don't see any updates on the related threads about them disabling TOO to PP coordinate transfer.
If they would implement a proper DTC like BMS has this could be done like in Real Life and a million times simpler. DCS will never overtake BMS until they do it.
It's on the list of things to come, we did see a tease some time back, but it's probably going to be a whiles yet. BMS's mission planning is really handy yes.
They probably won't release it until they finish all the systems relying on it are finished.
@@delayed_control Everything a DTC relies on the game has already. GPS coords
Pffft that's easy. I can do that and I have about an 80 IQ