The most toxic deck in Standard.

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  • @masterkurosaki100
    @masterkurosaki100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    Me: LVD is the best non-toxic MTG player out there.
    LVD: Playing a toxic deck for today.

    • @sunawan
      @sunawan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "You were the chosen one!"

  • @MrRubixscube
    @MrRubixscube 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    in match 2, you could've proliferated their saga so they lose the opportunity to cast anything with chapter 3

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      Good point!

    • @burnburn645
      @burnburn645 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i forget to do that half the time haha

    • @canadaraid2110
      @canadaraid2110 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@LegenVD seven months ago you built the poison ivy deck. Which deck would you say is better in this current standard environment?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@canadaraid2110 With upcoming Standard rotation in a few weeks a lot will change. The Marches will no longer be legal. This deck was never going to be particularly competitive though.

    • @canadaraid2110
      @canadaraid2110 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LegenVD thanks. I am hoping to compete at my local store for the urza saga and I was looking for a strong deck with poison

  • @CyberBuster93
    @CyberBuster93 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Oh man! At first I totally expected some sort of green deck with toxic, but this deck blows that one out of the water!
    Love this control style on the poison theme! Awesome job as usual Luca!

  • @ab-uo6rd
    @ab-uo6rd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man I started watching you back in the days when I played Magic Duels. Whenever I pick up mtg again I am just so happy you are still around :)

  • @JRandall0308
    @JRandall0308 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    "That's [Vraska's Fall with 2 solved Cases out] a one mana draw two make opponent sac a creature and apply a poison, which is a pretty good card." LOL!

  • @T-Stokes
    @T-Stokes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I made a similar deck but with Jace Reawakened to plot poison or proliferate spells. Then can pop off with Jace’s ultimate to double all of your spells for the win.

    • @lordoflemurs5539
      @lordoflemurs5539 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Proliferate + planeswalker is pretty good.

    • @T-Stokes
      @T-Stokes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lordoflemurs5539 Indeed!

    • @KevShaw808
      @KevShaw808 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a pretty cool combo @T-Stokes

    • @harisosmanovic6881
      @harisosmanovic6881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be great if you could record a few games and reply here to me, curious to see how it works before crafting

    • @ykthelabel3012
      @ykthelabel3012 หลายเดือนก่อน

      as i tell my friends when they build some really cool and my highest compliment in deck building, that's ILLEGAL ASF 😂😂 and i love it bout to add that in my new build

  • @angelogabriel6862
    @angelogabriel6862 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This deck is one of the most elegant things I've seen in MTG on a while.
    As always, well played!

  • @matejformanek9438
    @matejformanek9438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    47:54 Vraska's Fall into Serum Snare the token is lethal. Interesting deck.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Possibly, unless they remove my Serum Snare target to fizzle it. Either way we had the game in hand.

    • @ninjablade2
      @ninjablade2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LegenVD I was thinking you could have serum snared your case since it proliferates on "3 or less"; odds seemed good they wouldn't have removal for it, but still very good (and annoying) deck xD

  • @thcdreams654
    @thcdreams654 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Play queue or not I thought the deck was really cool. Thanks for featuring it. Appreciate the variety of quality offerings on a consistent basis.

  • @mr.marker6449
    @mr.marker6449 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    You don’t have to be so toxic man

  • @TheMasterLinkT
    @TheMasterLinkT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    In a community where creators are constantly defending their bad plays, it's nice to see LVD point out the smallest optimizations in his own gameplay to us.

  • @Azrichiel
    @Azrichiel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Game 2 was such an incredibly sweet victory for my tastes. To each their own, but I despise combo and seeing you shut it down completely twice in a row was a delight. It had a very "How many times do we have to keep teaching you this lesson, Old Man?" kind of feel for me.

    • @ykthelabel3012
      @ykthelabel3012 หลายเดือนก่อน

      big time hilarious indeed😂

  • @Jacobthejewela
    @Jacobthejewela 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    With a taste of a poison paradise

    • @vumasster
      @vumasster 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🎵your toxic tongue slipping under 🎵

  • @DanyF02
    @DanyF02 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great MVC quote since you always needed them to provide you with removal targets to solve the case! lol

  • @loserhimself4044
    @loserhimself4044 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally, that's what I've wanted to see!

  • @louisnemzer6801
    @louisnemzer6801 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    34:00 Such a great play. High reward with only a little risk.

  • @66lawngnome
    @66lawngnome 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love this grass battlefield

  • @walkermcmullin8665
    @walkermcmullin8665 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This deck has been super fun to play! One of the biggest things I have noticed with it is just how many decks in the current meta rely on creature interaction to work, I keep seeing decks lose to me because they’re trying to either fight or kill creatures, so their hands are pretty much useless against me!

    • @hazardhanson
      @hazardhanson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just goes to show arena is mostly luck because this deck didn't perform so well for me.

    • @TrepidFaceHugger
      @TrepidFaceHugger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hazardhanson keep huffing that copium

    • @hazardhanson
      @hazardhanson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TrepidFaceHugger loses to Boros, loses to discard, loses to mono red, which is 90% of B01 matchups. Loses to mono black, Keep swallowing the gravy

  • @GrosBoulet
    @GrosBoulet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    47:50 you had lethal, as you could have used a serum snare on your mite token (or even the case) to proliferate once more.
    Anyways, amazing stuff, keep it up !

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed, although on the off chance that they can interact with my Serum Snare target we could let them untap and either counter a relevant play or win at instant speed if they tap out.

  • @dludi8hn
    @dludi8hn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Liking just for the fact that someone made a toxic deck without Venerated Rotpriest

  • @Merit_Liege
    @Merit_Liege 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally! A toxic deck that isn't boring! 😍

  • @Legov7
    @Legov7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:48
    LVD masterfully predicting the game as usually. This time he predicted the matchup against the Mardu Mayor two weeks back and purposefully didn't put Get Lost into the decklist.
    Thats what real MtG proficiency looks like.

  • @elektofelekmocarny-fp3sx
    @elektofelekmocarny-fp3sx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You've unleashed plague upon this world

  • @Dave-vh5kq
    @Dave-vh5kq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Killing and countering everything match 5 had to play was brutal 😂

  • @GalaxyHap
    @GalaxyHap 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Proliferate version is quite interesting though. No lies about that.

  • @dcplayer8551
    @dcplayer8551 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried this with Jace awakened! you can plot the case aswell!

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds fun!

  • @zeusalternative1270
    @zeusalternative1270 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do play this deck but a more toxic version, with voidwing and the 1/1 deathtoucher. Is good but sometimes I lack the cards I need so I might try this, even if solving the case seems difficult.

  • @zooidic
    @zooidic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How would would you rotation proof this deck? Is there any replacement for March of Wretched Sorrow?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I discuss some of the options in a different comment.

  • @karolstopinski8350
    @karolstopinski8350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was playing a couple months ago something similar and it was fire :) It kinda fell off at some point but maybe i`ll have to revisit this iteration.
    Only wonder what sideboard cards to use for bo3. Any recommendations for 5 cards (3x copies each in sideboard)?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cards like Duress and Negate always have a use, but I recommend looking at other Dimir control lists to see what people play in their sideboard.

  • @Dumb-bejad007
    @Dumb-bejad007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do you have a plan for revisiting your older brawl deck like Korvold, Etrata and Feather?
    since we get a lot more support cards for them in Arena after 4 years.
    also thank you for the deck, really interesting build

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eventually if I run out of newer commanders to cover.

  • @francescoiachetta1530
    @francescoiachetta1530 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice one! Can u make an human legend deck tribal with jodah?

  • @dhang996
    @dhang996 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any advice on how to get venerated rotpriest? From which packs do I get him from mythic, alchemy???

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s in regular Phyrexia packs, but you’re likely better off just crafting it using wildcards.

    • @dhang996
      @dhang996 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you.

  • @bittermin3148
    @bittermin3148 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahh, I love decks with no creatures! So interesting, and a joy to play against! This is how Magic was always intended

  • @unamedperson1115
    @unamedperson1115 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    borros convoke loves this deck

  • @Mikey-gj4hn
    @Mikey-gj4hn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im currently creating this deck, march of wretched sorrow isnt something i can find. Has it been removed/nerfed?>

    • @Mikey-gj4hn
      @Mikey-gj4hn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      any advice on what to change the card out with? I dont think its able to be used in standard anymore.

  • @pugphone2313
    @pugphone2313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am never trusting a youtube video decklist ever again.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always recommend checking out deck statistics on the Untapped.gg website for a larger sample size.
      In this case the deck wasn't meant to be particularly competitive, as stated multiple times in the video.

    • @pugphone2313
      @pugphone2313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LegenVD That's p valid; my bad, man. Was really sick when i made this comment, you didnt deserve that heat

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pugphone2313 No worries. Thanks for your reply!

  • @0NBalfa0
    @0NBalfa0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    47:51 was leathal with the snare on your mirrex token.
    BTW the way the deck is, it fares extremely poorly vs Boros convoke and mono red. Its healing is rather inconsistent (only tied to two cards) and it doesn't have the cheapest boardwipes (Paths of peril).
    I would consider a celestus at the very least for the extra healing and draw consistency. I find 4 cases to clog the deck's performance a bit as beyond the first two draws of them, the rest are just dead draws, especially for a deck that has so much card draw. (I think it is also possible to drop a land)

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those matchups aren't really fixable by changing a couple cards around, the whole gameplan just lines up poorly. That's why I also didn't play it on the ladder to avoid getting steamrolled over and over. The goal wasn't to make the best control deck, but rather showcase Ransacked Lab alongside the Poison cards, which is why I was happy to run the full playset. I've already featured several control decks that are better designed to fight Monored and Boros convoke, so just wanted to spice things up a little bit.

    • @0NBalfa0
      @0NBalfa0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LegenVD Fair enough.

  • @miav7817
    @miav7817 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How would you modify this deck after rotation?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The deck mainly loses the 1 mana removal options. Unless we get something better in future sets, there's still Disfigure or Whisper of the Dross. The mana will also get a bit worse, which is true for every deck.

  • @AHNoReason
    @AHNoReason 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You keep referencing a decklist that you are familiar with in Match 3. It doesn't look familiar to me even though I watch every video... I seemingly may have missed it if you could point me in the right direction 😀

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here you go: th-cam.com/video/jaP_f0GdcwQ/w-d-xo.html
      You can always check out the format playlists on my channel page.

  • @noobtube2799
    @noobtube2799 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play and enjoy this deck, also nice wrong thumbnail

  • @HandleisTaken
    @HandleisTaken 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you change your audio setup recently? There's been a lot more echo/chamber effect in the last couple of videos - -but maybe it's just me?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nothing changed on my end fwiw.

  • @dustincrager
    @dustincrager 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I finally got to play you! Too bad you were being toxic! 😆

  • @brutal-noodle
    @brutal-noodle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are these cards about to rotate out?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only a few removal spells and lands, not the Poison cards.

  • @skipper7152
    @skipper7152 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LVD and toxic in the same sentence sounds strange to me

  • @karlee-mk
    @karlee-mk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe Distorted Curiosity would fit in.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s in there already!

  • @xavierdugas-frenette2469
    @xavierdugas-frenette2469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    18:10 Why not proliferate their Founding the Third Path?

    • @hanxijia7926
      @hanxijia7926 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he probably forgot

  • @Shinnizle
    @Shinnizle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In that last game, couldn't you have won a turn early by casting Vraska's Fall and then Serum Snare on your own Mite token?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Possibly, unless they remove my Serum Snare target to fizzle it. Either way we had the game in hand.

    • @Shinnizle
      @Shinnizle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LegenVD You could technically have targeted your case too, as that is also 3 mana or less, and they probably didn't have a way to remove it.
      But you were in control and had no reason to, so I understand taking the risk-free approach.

  • @harisosmanovic6881
    @harisosmanovic6881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first game when he deadly covered up memory deluge, wouldn't it be better if he got rid of the analysts ?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They already had a lot of mana, so at that point we're more interested to take the payoffs.

    • @harisosmanovic6881
      @harisosmanovic6881 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LegenVD yeah makes sense as the analyst isn't the only win con. You are right. Thank you. Great vid btw. Having great fun playing this deck

  • @jonstein1579
    @jonstein1579 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Second for phyrexia

  • @johnsmith-dn8kv
    @johnsmith-dn8kv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First for Phyrexia

  • @SM-hr3zo
    @SM-hr3zo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    36:12 could also have countered your own spell to solve the case.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure, although we don't want to tap out there.

  • @clon1122
    @clon1122 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this deck must have a pretty low weight.

  • @blknight6984
    @blknight6984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    toxic deck w/o creatures is a sad deck

  • @daodrassulravan5520
    @daodrassulravan5520 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:30 should have proliferated the enemy Founding of the Third Path so they get zero value!

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed!

  • @sinisterresonantbell3335
    @sinisterresonantbell3335 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay but game 1 was actually toxic lol

  • @harrybum
    @harrybum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    magic the gathering

  • @johnyred9303
    @johnyred9303 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of your decks are very descent. This is a very good one but is not...! I don't know yet if is decks problem or trash arena as always

  • @firstname-lastname
    @firstname-lastname 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOL, interesting idea, but long time to kill opponent.

  • @S8in1337
    @S8in1337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bahaha, good old magic arena... go fetch a card then draw the card you just fetched.... so dumb...

  • @fernandogouvea2
    @fernandogouvea2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Normal game nem da vontade de assistir...

  • @niccoloquattrocchi843
    @niccoloquattrocchi843 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I gave up with Arena, totally scripted game, when you are winning too much or the algorythm decided that you have to loose, YOU LOOSE no matter what