4L60e Tuning How-To + Truck Norris Dyno Tune! Gen 3 Tuning on HPtuners
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- In today's video I am tuning on a 1999 Chevy Silverado. We do some diagnostics and then get into tuning. I show you how to tune a Gen 3 4L60e plus we put the truck on the dyno.
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Finally someone with some good sense about torque management. I have 271,000 miles on my 4l60e. 100k miles with a camshaft and tuned with a wideband. 22k miles with a turbo. A sonnax .490 boost valve and corvette servo helps.
Wow. I'm shocked. I likecto hear that shit. 👍
My boosted Silverado lasted 220k lmao about 50k with boost. And a stock 4l60 ahah just got the Truck Norris cam kit in the mail yesterday time to upgrade to come chop chop
You, LT, and Richard Holdener are my go-to guys when it comes to the most technical info regarding GMT800 trucks. Keep up the amazing work and it's a crime you don't have more followers!
Knowledge is intended to be spread.. not held for self gain.
you got it right! Do everything as right as you can.
Wow, even LT watches Matt. Fan of both of yours, keep up the good work guys. Thanks
Absolutely 100%
I am the same way and I know you are too, LT.
Do it as right as you can and make it seem and look as OEM as possible.
Everyday I see all the effort you put into this COPO truck I bought from you - it has been an absolutely awesome daily driver man.
Thanks.
Later.
I just subbed im workin on tuning my 02 suburban now cause the last person that tuned it had it pug rich
New to the channel, quality content. Going to start to learn on my 09 Avalanche with a L96 truck norris swap. I have a feeling I'm going to learn alot from your channel, thank you. Have a mpvi3 and credits
A few minutes into your video I went to check my spacer on the truck. Tuner put a tbss intake on my 5.3 with stock cable throttle and one of those adapters. It didn’t have the iac groove but it appears he took a dremel to it and cut it right open… no wonder it idles like hot garbage. Ordered the proper one now!
🎉great tune up and performance recommendations for the customer. I always thought a good battery and charging system check would be great way start the road tune and compare the live data numbers vs. the dyna tune numbers after as a final check. Good tune under the circumstances for good customer service .
Good work!!!🎉😅🎉
I would be so nervous doing PCM flashes with a dead battery, you are very brave lol. Great video regardless lots of good info I will be using in dialing in the tune on my truck. Thanks for the awesome content!
No kidding 😂😂
Damn that thing is seriously down on power. My Truck Norris suburban made 325/335 on a dynojet, and 292/311 on a mustang. Short headers and catless Y pipe. It made 240/254 on the mustang bone stock.
Loving this channel man. Great video keep them coming.
Thank you!
@@Matt_Sanfordmore on the VE BSFC histo. Btw I am OCD like you.
Amazing amount of info delivered.
Glad you think so!
I appreciate your honesty and passion for tuning. You mentioned that you could teach step-by-step everything about tuning. Well, I'm just getting started with my '03 GMC Yukon XL. Can you teach me step-by-step?
That truck sounds sick!
Great video! Super excited to learn! Thanks for sharing!
Wish you could look at my tune. Guy that tuned my truck didn’t have a care in the world. Think you would have a good laugh and also be scared.
Exhaust vibrations can also cause false knock as well. Pull plugs to verify
99% of tuners delete torque management and that’s what kills the trans. I went to the track with my turbo gto and turning it off made zero difference. But it did break my output shaft on the second run with it off.
So glad I found you and thank u for your help
Fantastic work👍
Thanks for the video and the transmission tips.
The last 01 suburban I tuned with a truck norris cam and long tubes I had making the 1-2 and at 6200 and the 2-3 at 6100 and got a LOT of hate on the page I posted it on. I'm not saying the haters are right or that your wrong I'm just telling the feedback I got from that. The truck has been in service for about 6-8 months now with no issues that I know of.
My 4.8 with ls6 cam was shifting 6300 1-2 and 6200 2-3
Awesome video happened so fast i didn't retain any of it even watching several times makes me super scared to get my truck turned now not huge setup but just built trans and change gears and tire size and scared trans will burn up without tune thanks for this info and your time
Awesome videos on content that normal people build. I am tuning a 2005 yukon with the truck norris cam and some tsp ported heads with bigger valves on a nice 5.3 bottom end. Everything is going great except I am getting like 150 lbs of torque at in gear idle. Have pulled timing and what not and it still just make a ton at 750 rpms. Don't understand what is causing the issue. Every time I do a truck I learn something new. This one is being a challenge.
Too much motor for stock converter
You got me totally thinking about these throttle bodies . On my dad’s 73 Camaro swap i did , I was in a pinch so i got a China throttle body and what a pile ,lesson learned on that. I ordered a Gm one (same part as this ) and it made it run so much better. Needs tuning now as it breaks up a bit at some lighter throttle 1/4 to 1/2 but a lot of its hiccups have been cured just on that throttle body change alone ..
I have 2004 Joe Gibbs Performance Silverado I did custom cam swap more boost. Had a guy tune it and it set for 3 years it now has map sensor code it idles high in gear ect. It be a great vid to do on.
Amazing video thanks
funny. My friend recently bought one of those throttle bodies from Amazon and I couldn't get it to run right until I swapped the original tps and IAC valve from the oem throttle body. Brand new bad out of the box just like most of the sensors we get at the parts stores these days...
He is missing a transmission pan bolt to😂 awesome video
I definitely need help with my tune I’d be interested in sending my tune
I had a idle air control valve that was so dirty that it's stuck in the hole in the tb and when it tried to open i it unscrewed it from the solenoid leaving the plunger stuck in the hole. Talking about idle issues. That will definitely do it. No I make it a routine to pull it out and check it and clean it every 6 months. This was on my daily driver that I used to put about 400 to 500 miles a week on. Retired now and I doubt if I do 200 a week but I still check it.
Subcribed! I would love to see you go over discuss other tunes. Great idea
Does that stock 78mm tb take away from the gains from a tbss intake
Ok so what's the idle fix for an engine that does need the larger throttle body due to more extreme engine modifications?
Good stuff bud
Awesome video. I would love to send you my tune so you can take a look at it and see what your thoughts are.
Does a 5.3 need a convertor with a truck Norris can upgrade.. 2003 Silverado
if they were symetrical i would be ok with it... maybe.... depends on my mood that day i guess... function vs esthetics vs servicability,,,, but i do agree with ya!
Thanks!
On 16:13 you are talking about the spark table and timing been over advance. I would like to know about it some more. Do you have a reference video where you explain that more in depth?
What is another option besides hp tuner ? To tune these?
Could you take a carbide bit and make the hole bigger on that after market throttle body to increase the size for the air flow to be better?
I noticed your long term fuel trim is zeroed out is there a reason for that?
Cheers.
Why don't you copy the tables/settings into the performance side and only the normal/cruise table?
Another good one Matt. This answered most of my questions about the aftermarket throttle body Facebook post. Lol
Does the paper gasket on the adapter do ok with boosted stuff if we decide to use a stocker on a tbss style intake?
Yeah that Paper gasket will be fine. Both surfaces are machined well.
Put the weather guard on the front of it 💯
Sincere thanks for all the info.
Are you willing to share your injection timing for the Truck Norris cam?
I would love for you to look at my tune. I have a 04 silverado crew cab with a gen 3 5.3l. Stage 3 tsp cam, 1⅞ tsp long tube headers, upgraded heads. 2800 , some head work. I have no idea what I'm doing with tunning but got an hp tuners just to learn. Truck runs decent just don't have anything in 1st gear. Runs at high rpm but goes nowhere. I'm down for the rate my tune
Hey Matt!
Im not sure if i missed this or not, but under fuel cut off or DFCO tab, RPM Limits- there is a "bad vss cutoff" set to 5500rpm. Would this have to b3 raised as well? I have a 5.3 turbo 7875 completely stock truck with a 4l80e, followed this video very well, but I seem to be limited at 5500 and bouncing off the limiter... 😅 Im not sure if i should change that above my shift speed, SD 2bar 12psi 10 deg timing 93 pump 😁 Also this is in a 84 crew cab chevy dually. Amazing videos, please keep this up!!
Can I get some help to tune my 2014 6.0 823 heads with 6L90E 411 gears
Just found your channel thru a comment on a Goat Rope Garage video. Nice. I have 6.0, 243 heads, Truck Norris cam and factory manifolds and cats on my 200k mile Silverado . So ya think I"m missing quite a it not having long tubes? Thanks
Yes you are costing yourself HP and TQ not having Longtubes. It’s a very drastic difference for sure.
Really appreciate the replies @@Matt_Sanford
I wish i could get you to tune my truck
Could the timing be wanting to be pulled bc it was calling to shift even tho you had it locked ? another question why keep shift lock enabled? Keep up the good content! I lmao at that ve u pulled up lol
Do you have a video on using 93 over 87 octane, just did a build on a 2004 5.3 and currently running 87 and was wondering if going to 93 was worth it
Awesome video bud am running the same setup on mine 2001 same throttle body I keep having issues with the 92mm keeps shutting off once in a while specially when it’s cold do you recommend switching back to the stock one?
I have a 5.3 with a sloppy stage 2 tryed to tune and bs lol need help in California and i just have that cam
Hey since you've done so many of those Truck Norris cam tuning, what is the correct / best idle rpm for them? I saw in this video around 800-825 rpm, would that cam in 6.0 require a different idle rpm? Thanks in advance!
It depends on the torque converter, gear, weight of the vehicle, etc. Most 6.0s would want between 725-800 in gear and between 750-850 in park from what I have seen so far.
How much do you usually charge to tune a 2500hd like this? Mine is the same as this with the truck norris and shorty headers. What is the most co st effective way to get into being able to tune my own truck? Oh mine does have the 4L80 instead of the 60.
Is there any way to modify the fitech throttle body in order to accept the correct amount of airflow?
Are you running it on the dyno in 2nd gear due to the driveshaft speed? 2nd gear is 1.625:1 compared to 3rd being 1.00:1 which would be ideal.
What did you notice with the incorrect throttle body?
when you tune a 99 - 02 5.3 for catless long tubes what tune do you have to do, I deleted the air pump and 0'd that table out what else should I do
What’s the best shifting for 4l60e for 2008 Chevrolet avalanche 5.3l stock
Any tips for truck Norris cam on a 02 2500hd rebuilt 20 over pistons everything else stock just doesn't seem to have any bottom end bought the programmed computer from Michigan motor sports then had it tuned by a shop just seems like it should perform better also did egr delete
Where are you located? I'd love to have you tune my truck once I put the cam in. It's got a tune from a shop but I assume it could be optimized more. Also does the truck need larger injectors with the truck norris cam?
is that a nsr cam? your leaving power on the table. that cam can easily carry power to 6500 in a 5.3
Men I’d love for you to fix my tune in my 2000 Chevy 5.3 btr stage 3 long tubes had a guy tune it and it’s not right at all smell like it’s running rich as could be
Which norris cam is in it. And do u need any other upgrades to accommodate the cam. Or is the cam ok by itself installed.
How far can you drive after cam swap before tune? Tuner is about 30 mile drive from me.
Have you ever had a 6.0 Gen 3 truck fail write with aftermarket radio and alarm system? If so can you make a video on how to go around that. Thank you, loving all your vids so far!
Happens all the time with the 2003-2006 P59 ECM.
@@Matt_Sanford is there any tips or tricks for it ? My method is pulling radio fuse and un plugging the radio harness, disconnecting the battery and flashing it with a battery charger on it.
@@2sslogan I always have to pull the radio fuse on my 2003 . It's just a fact with these.
My best advice is go to the junkyard and make your own bench harness. One day my 03 avalanche with p59 decided it didn't want to write for 2 days. I almost bought a bench harness so instead I wasted about $40 and made my own bench harness
That VE is absolutely terrible
The spark table is dumb lol.
Good work fixing it 🤙🏻
Reason im asking is cause after my cam swap when i go to start the truck it sometimes takes 1 crank and the truck fires up or sometimes it take 1 crank and wont fire let off the key real fast and next crank fires right up. No one can help or give me an answer why. i do notice tps is around 0.8% when this happens and 0.4% when it doesnt. I have HP tuners software 6.0 p01 pcm truck norris cam. Never had this issue prior to cam, and head swap.
What to do to the 4l60 to make it last awhile in a truck or ls swap??
Whats the name of your shop?Want to get in touch with you about pricing for tuning.I have a 09 sierra with choppacobra cam.
Do you still offer rate my tune have one that keeps fighting I'm not professional but trying to get this thing figured out
In the past i recall people saying the 1999 pcm’s were prone to false knock. Have you ever encountered that?
I have. Go under Knock Sensor Global Gain and compare to a little bit newer truck. You will see what to change.
Help from Long Island ny. My son and I took our trucks (Silverado with cam head work etc, awd trailblazer ss ls3 with cam head package) to a performance shop out here and both trucks running like 💩. Where you located I will ship cars/ ecu w.e please help us.
My son’s Silverado transmission went out 2 days after tuning. Was perfectly fine prior. I’m scared to drive my tbss. My truck have a stage 4 rpm transmission. I don’t want to break anything else. My son and I are getting his transmission rebuild and going to install it back in but I’m sure the tune wiped out the transmission. Need you expertise
Hey man you do remote tunes? I got a gen4 LS with a truck Norris cam and 6L80 I need tuned in a ‘70 c10. I have hp tuners dongle and software….Houston Texas
Hey, just found your channel and really like your style. Two questions for my 06 5.3L GMC 4x4 crew cab, if going for reliable driveable power would you go forced injection or truck norris with springs and long tubes, and with 4L60E would you recommend a corvette servo upgrade or stock with trans kit or both...thanks for your effort in good content
A TorqStorm Supercharger kit and a Corvette Servo is a combo I like that retains fuel mileage and drivability but still make good power.
I believe I know less now that I did before. Only admitting to my ignorance not saying you didn't help me realize I don't want to spend money on a programming pc. Nope I'll haul it somewhere. Maybe Nashville it's only a 9 hour drive
Truck Norris! Is that a play on Chuck Norris? Love it
Good video. Just a tumbled on this and subscribed. Fixing to do a swap. Do you do vats delete and if not who would you recommend. You are probably close enough for me that I will look into getting my truck to you when I get it ready.
Yes I can do both! Thanks for the sub and the kind words!
Not a chance in hell would I leave my clamps uneven. I’m with ya brother lol
Where do you get the tunned by bluecat,and how much does it cost
The software is free. I put the link in the description on my 6L80/6L90 tuning video.
How can I get you to tune my BTR stage 3 5.3?
Hey Matt could u plz tell me where ur located for a tune?
Interested getting tune on my 02 tahoe
Do you do email tuning
Thanks for all the info and training. Have you experienced a 4l60e that shifts from 1st to 4th before 10mph. No codes and fresh transmission build. Any insight would be appreciated
4wd?
@@issaiflores1476 2WD.
Do you ever do any coyote stuff or just strictly LS/LT?
I primarily focus on LS/LT but I do tune Coyote and Hemi stuff on occasion as well.
@@Matt_Sanford Awesome, I have a Gen 1 F150. I"d love to see what power a FBO gen 1 would make.
Do you have to buy the 400$ interface?
Matt-another great and informative video for all to learn from as we build our dream trucks! I do have a question about an 06 1500 with 4.8. I had it tuned for 275 60 20 tires, lower fan activation temp and a decent balance of power and efficiency. (Not a door slammer) i noticed when the A/C is on, the truck will randomly misfire a couple times when idling and at highway speed. When it misfires, it always does it in 2s. No CEL/MIL and runs fine otherwise. It goes away when the A/C is off. I hooked a modis scan tool to it and dont see anything jumping out at me and have taken it to 2 different shops with no results. Could this possibly be a bad tune? Bad PCM? I'm tempted on getting a stock PCM and seeing if the problem goes away. Thanks for any guidance.
Sorry you didn’t get any replies, that’s an odd one for sure. Did you get it sorted out after?
Yes. I got a stock reman PCM and it went away. I'm thinking it may have been a bad/corrupted tune file.
@@2009KVFD976 good to hear
is the VE from Dynamic air and VE from BSFC pids on your chartVStime a formula that is already in the scanner or your own user defined math?
Those are my own user defined math. I will do a video on them eventually.
What state you in for a tune . Customer should of used chopacobra lol 😝
Can I send you my computer for tuning? 99 Silverado 6.0 chopacabra cam e fans longtubes headers and 3600 stall . 92mm tb
ROFLMFAO!!!! CLICK!!!! CLICK!!!! I love it
How do you modify tow hual mode Awesome vids 👍
Thank you! I’ll cover that in an upcoming video so stay tuned!
Hey Matt, any advantage to running an aftermarket intake manifold on a boosted LS3? If so, any recommendations?
Absolutely not! Stock LS3 manifolds only!
@@Matt_Sanford 10-4! What I needed to know. Thanks for everything you do and for continuing to pump out content!
If you drill a 3/32 hole in the large throttle body butterfly idle problem solved.
Anyway you can send me your scanner layout lol 😆