The idea of addressing comments in a feedback video is a great way of responding to the important points people make. I think this could really catch on!
I really enjoyed this vid, Wytse. One of the things that I applaud about this channel is that you are always contextualising your comments in regards to your preferences, workflow, etc. you are unafraid, as is evidenced in this video, to say that you left something out in a review, or even that you may be wrong about something. You invite conversation as opposed to being the ‘sage on the stage (as we say in ‘higher Ed’) and I think that is important. Thanks for all that you do!
This format is super valuable. It isn't just an explanation but also a better insight into your thought process. Your analog and most of us are digital. We watch you for your different perspective.
If software support stops, it's not bricked, it's just that you probably can't update/upgrade your machine anymore. We've had it also with many softwares like SCORE and just recently, Finale. SCORE has not been able to be purchased for more than 10 years but some music publishing companies still use it, just that their computers are also old.
If software supports stops on both ends (McDSP and Apple), it's just a matter of time before it's a good as bricked. The only debate is how much time you're willing to let that one McDSP unit hold back your system from moving forward (upgrading the MacOS and ProTools, Luna, Logic, etc). You'd basically become a hostage to a defunct company (hypothetically - I wish them well).
I would agree on making EQ circuits compact enough for 1u is well possible. It's not very difficult to make a compact gyrator (inductor simulation, you would need this in a EQ for a resonant filter) these days. Modern solid state switching makes it also possible to make multi-topology circuits on a small footprint without sacrificing performance. If you look at vintage hardware it's exactly like Wytse showed: there is a lot of air in the boxes. Modern engineering makes it possible to also make thermal management more efficient and building more compact hardware.
The APB from McDSP is the biggest innovation in audio in a long time IMO. You cannot get 16 channels of that quality of analog with plugin control and instant session recall any other way. It's genius.
legit video. I own an apb and I love it. As for the eq, I reached out to mcdsp to ask them, the eq is not fully analog, but it does run through the analog gear post digital eq. It’s not that it’s too big, it’s that they were having heat issues with eq in there as well. So they cancelled the analog eq and stuck with compressors and saturation circuits. I hope they eventually come out with an 8 channel analog eq apb, if they can figure out the heat issue.
I am so glad you hat the opportunity to get the EQ. It was so obvious how much you liked it, that excitement was real. And that is, why I like watching your reviews. There are these emotional differences in how you react.
I think that these type of videos/content is a good idea, it gives you the chance to clear up some confusion, or provide another information to your viewers, and that is good for us too, so Thanks for sharing! Just avoid the Glenn's shouting and swearing to low levels 🤣🤣
Great idea, like the format. My initial impression with the mcdsp review was that I thought it be a box with a dsp chip in it because of the name. But I realised during the review that it is not a dsp based box but it did confuse me.
Great show, I like it, I think from time to time some comments review is cool. You and Glenn are both their own institutions, no worry you are unique !
Ik heb het idee dat je zo heel goed kan laten zien/merken dat je ook gewoon een persoon bent. Dingen die je vergeten bent te melden, fouten corrigeren, vragen naar feedback "had ik dit ander moeten doen" etc. Goed beizg!
I'm really thrilled to see that a well-known figure among mixing and mastering engineers has equipment from a company founded by my fellow countryman in their arsenal!
I love your channel. Please, can you make a series about conversion, or using hybrid setups? Nobody really talks about it in a deep and tecnical way, and it would help a lot of us. We can transpose things for our, you know casstte tape mixdown or guitar pedals for mixing... just a way to do it professionally without destroying our signal. Again, thanks love your channel, you are awesome.
Im trying something crazy. Built a 20 channel 500 series (inline)desk . 3 units per channel(pre,eq,comp) made up of 6 midas L10 ($255ea) gap 573 pre, various eq’s and comps with 2 ferrofish 16 ad/da totaling about $14k. Not bad for getting some pretty good analog with plenty of transformers and such.
Or better yet make it a law that requires companies to open source everything if they are going to discontinue or stop supporting some thing. Then I don't think things will be discontinued every year and if they do it's open source so somebody could do a lot more fun stuff with it.
I have an Antumbra Bank. Its a 2 board deep, 3U High, 8 HP (4cm) wide 14 band EQ. Hand built. LOL @ anyone who says you cant fit analog EQ in 1U 84HP and that deep, with machine pick and place.
i will say them having "dsp" in the name did confuse me, it is cool that its mostly analog though, i just cant say it excites me too much, and the slightly condescending comments defending it in the original video taints it a tad for me as well (though it really shouldnt), its each to their own though i guess
Nice vid. I like your style. ps. I like to hear your opinion about Black Rooster Magnetite. I tested trial version but I found tape 7 better. I have UAD Oxide too and I do not like it either. Is it time to new tape machines shoot out?
if I make a comment / ask a question and I know there'd be an answer video...and the answer/reaction video would be available only for member users...👀 see what I mean ? 🤑 But (by now) I'm not reacting so much... and I would hate to be cut-off that content as it's still valuable for everybody. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to fool you 😇
Heres the thing with you big Audio Influencers Yall get offered to promote a piece(s) of gear knowing well its to promote the GEAR yet BS around & say "were not sponsored” yet mention "I got at it at a discount price" ya no shit LMFAO
Tubes: Was in a band in the 90s with a singer who was an electrical engineer. He said they can 100% replicate tubes in solid state. I argued it was the un-predictability of the tubes (environmental) that cannot be replicated. Today there is still this argument. There is no solid state Random Number Generator that is a true RNG. True RNG must use some un-predictable environmental element (temperature, humidity, gravity, heat, power fluctuation) to be truly random. Today SS still cannot replicate a tube for audio warmth.
Ik denk dat deze type video's leuker kan zijn als je bijvoorbeeld ook vragen beantwoord uit de comments. Dan kunnen wij met jou communiceren. Want nu is het een beetje "DIT IS EEN K$&$- PRODUCT WANT -INSERT MIJN K$T MENING-" en dan ga jij dat weerleggen. Wat op zich prima is alleen niet heel spannend. Meeste mensen lezen namelijk niet alle comments zoals jij dat zelf doet. Dus voor ons niet super boeiend wat een of andere guy op t internet typt over een video van jouw mening over een product ;)
They make EQ in 500 series haha!! The comment about their not being enough space wasn't a very educated comment. Heck I have a full channel strip in my 500 series rack (2 technically but one is very limited in controls because it also has a preamp)! Compressor, saturation, and 4 band EQ. If they can fit it in a 500 series module they certainly can fit it in a 19" rack.
compressors / limiters, 3 different saturation circuits per channel, converters, clocking, thunderbolt, power to all the different components within and all the extra stuff this box has to do to be able to give you sample accurate automation and instant recall etc… Adding additional components for eq (which are more than required for compressors) is a significant amount of extra heat. Especially since it’s digitally controlled I’d argue most users would want a minimum of 6 bands so yes that is enough heat added in that they would have to incorporate a fan to keep it 1U and that adds noise and takes up room too. Looking at completely different gear in your studio and making uneducated comparisons is goofy behaviour. The 16 certainly doesn’t have room for all that. The 8 would but then it wouldn’t cost just 4k would it and that defeats the purpose of having a more affordable version I’m sure they will have an EQ version at some point but who knows, maybe it’ll have to be bigger or have different or less features on the compression side. They have certainly opened up a big rabbit hole of possibilities with where this technology can go. On a side note, McDSP’s digital eq curves have always been some of the best in the industry but the majority of an EQs tone comes from its saturation board which the APB EQ still uses in the analogue domain !
please don't bring politics into your game man, NAFO trolls will take over under the influence of copious amounts of copium, and ruin the comment section.
inside of apb-8 , looks verry digital imo, doesnt look like analogue equipment, but i'm no expert (@ the end of the video ) th-cam.com/video/goa_T93I9Tc/w-d-xo.html
Love this, Wytse! Thanks for taking the time to provide even more clarity on the APB 🙌
The idea of addressing comments in a feedback video is a great way of responding to the important points people make. I think this could really catch on!
I agree and the Estonian can?(like?) accent is fun to listen to. My doctor here in western US she has it too.
I really enjoyed this vid, Wytse. One of the things that I applaud about this channel is that you are always contextualising your comments in regards to your preferences, workflow, etc. you are unafraid, as is evidenced in this video, to say that you left something out in a review, or even that you may be wrong about something. You invite conversation as opposed to being the ‘sage on the stage (as we say in ‘higher Ed’) and I think that is important. Thanks for all that you do!
This format is super valuable. It isn't just an explanation but also a better insight into your thought process.
Your analog and most of us are digital. We watch you for your different perspective.
great! love this new segment! pls pls pls more of that😊
It's a good idea. And removing people's names makes the section already better than Glenn's.
Video Idea: Play the White sea studio ident bumper video in every studio you can find on full volume! that 20hz bump still gives me a smile!!
If software support stops, it's not bricked, it's just that you probably can't update/upgrade your machine anymore. We've had it also with many softwares like SCORE and just recently, Finale. SCORE has not been able to be purchased for more than 10 years but some music publishing companies still use it, just that their computers are also old.
If software supports stops on both ends (McDSP and Apple), it's just a matter of time before it's a good as bricked. The only debate is how much time you're willing to let that one McDSP unit hold back your system from moving forward (upgrading the MacOS and ProTools, Luna, Logic, etc). You'd basically become a hostage to a defunct company (hypothetically - I wish them well).
I would agree on making EQ circuits compact enough for 1u is well possible. It's not very difficult to make a compact gyrator (inductor simulation, you would need this in a EQ for a resonant filter) these days. Modern solid state switching makes it also possible to make multi-topology circuits on a small footprint without sacrificing performance. If you look at vintage hardware it's exactly like Wytse showed: there is a lot of air in the boxes. Modern engineering makes it possible to also make thermal management more efficient and building more compact hardware.
It would be better if you yell more like Glenn Fricker - Joking! - I hope you enjoy making these videos! They are fun to watch!
Please keep doing this. It's an interesting behind-the-scenes commentary that adds value to your regular videos.
Dude this is great! I've been an engineer for 30 years, but still love watching your videos for a fresh perspective!
Congrats for your new EQ! That's awesome.
The APB from McDSP is the biggest innovation in audio in a long time IMO. You cannot get 16 channels of that quality of analog with plugin control and instant session recall any other way. It's genius.
legit video. I own an apb and I love it. As for the eq, I reached out to mcdsp to ask them, the eq is not fully analog, but it does run through the analog gear post digital eq. It’s not that it’s too big, it’s that they were having heat issues with eq in there as well. So they cancelled the analog eq and stuck with compressors and saturation circuits. I hope they eventually come out with an 8 channel analog eq apb, if they can figure out the heat issue.
I appreciate your forwardness regarding the EQ and their offer. I'd have taken them up on that offer too, as many would.
I am so glad you hat the opportunity to get the EQ. It was so obvious how much you liked it, that excitement was real. And that is, why I like watching your reviews. There are these emotional differences in how you react.
I learned my lesson with the Focusrite Liquid Mix and have stayed away from DSP systems ever since.
The EQ in the MCdsp is digital but it goes through a analog stage.
Where is the best TotalMix tutorial ever?
I need that
I don't think it exists
@@jackc8120 yes, cause recording is more tecnical and mixing is more artistic (in some degree, cause its about feeling even being really tecnical).
I still want to produce one
Barry Johns has one
Thought the video was great, cool to hear your personal response to some of these questions.
I like this video and I think your responses to user's posts is valuable and can help in clarifying your intentions in specific areas.
Go!
I think that these type of videos/content is a good idea, it gives you the chance to clear up some confusion, or provide another information to your viewers, and that is good for us too, so Thanks for sharing!
Just avoid the Glenn's shouting and swearing to low levels 🤣🤣
This is a great way to communicate opinions!
Great idea, like the format. My initial impression with the mcdsp review was that I thought it be a box with a dsp chip in it because of the name. But I realised during the review that it is not a dsp based box but it did confuse me.
Great idea, I think! Please produce this type of video more often!
Great show, I like it, I think from time to time some comments review is cool. You and Glenn are both their own institutions, no worry you are unique !
Ik heb het idee dat je zo heel goed kan laten zien/merken dat je ook gewoon een persoon bent. Dingen die je vergeten bent te melden, fouten corrigeren, vragen naar feedback "had ik dit ander moeten doen" etc. Goed beizg!
Wes audio plugin control is limited to time in that case too
Definitely green light ✅ for this format!
I'm really thrilled to see that a well-known figure among mixing and mastering engineers has equipment from a company founded by my fellow countryman in their arsenal!
Congratulations on the EQ!
Yep
Like it.
Nothing wrong with getting inspired by a fellow youtuber and trying it in your own style.
I love your channel. Please, can you make a series about conversion, or using hybrid setups? Nobody really talks about it in a deep and tecnical way, and it would help a lot of us. We can transpose things for our, you know casstte tape mixdown or guitar pedals for mixing... just a way to do it professionally without destroying our signal. Again, thanks love your channel, you are awesome.
YESSS, please more of this, id love to see your reactions to some of the claims ive seen under your videos
The idea is great!! Thanks and keep on going!
dank voor je inzet, Topper!!!
Nice video! Would love to see you react on camera more often!
Im trying something crazy. Built a 20 channel 500 series (inline)desk . 3 units per channel(pre,eq,comp) made up of 6 midas L10 ($255ea) gap 573 pre, various eq’s and comps with 2 ferrofish 16 ad/da totaling about $14k. Not bad for getting some pretty good analog with plenty of transformers and such.
Responding to intelligent comments allows to address some oversights - just as you have here with Software Support, for instance.
Or better yet make it a law that requires companies to open source everything if they are going to discontinue or stop supporting some thing. Then I don't think things will be discontinued every year and if they do it's open source so somebody could do a lot more fun stuff with it.
on board!! keep'em coming!!
Isn't there some 500 series rack boxes that have Digital Conversion as well as recall!!?? I think one even has a patch bay built in.
10/10 content slop. Keep em coming!
Great Idea!
Thanks and yes please, more like that.
I think that would be a great format :)
Enjoyed this video, more please! 😎
Can you do review of the schwabe goldclip lavery emulation
I have an Antumbra Bank. Its a 2 board deep, 3U High, 8 HP (4cm) wide 14 band EQ. Hand built. LOL @ anyone who says you cant fit analog EQ in 1U 84HP and that deep, with machine pick and place.
Brilant idea. ❤️
I enjoyed this video so yes keep doing them 🎉
i will say them having "dsp" in the name did confuse me, it is cool that its mostly analog though, i just cant say it excites me too much, and the slightly condescending comments defending it in the original video taints it a tad for me as well (though it really shouldnt), its each to their own though i guess
Nice vid. I like your style. ps. I like to hear your opinion about Black Rooster Magnetite. I tested trial version but I found tape 7 better. I have UAD Oxide too and I do not like it either. Is it time to new tape machines shoot out?
I love this channel so much.
I like the Dutch accent!
And I like the Dutch food....
And ... this channel, and this guy.
Greetings from Germany.
How much for the recall + how much for the sound = total price 😅
Are cheaper Recalls solutions exist ?
reacting to APMastering and their comments would be fun 😆
Loved this
if I make a comment / ask a question and I know there'd be an answer video...and the answer/reaction video would be available only for member users...👀 see what I mean ? 🤑
But (by now) I'm not reacting so much... and I would hate to be cut-off that content as it's still valuable for everybody.
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to fool you 😇
It is hardware. It's analog.
Why did yu do Titanck in yur Coffe Pot broi?
Keep it coming just don't start shouting 😂
Heres the thing with you big Audio Influencers Yall get offered to promote a piece(s) of gear knowing well its to promote the GEAR yet BS around & say "were not sponsored” yet mention "I got at it at a discount price" ya no shit LMFAO
Once again Wytse. You will always have haters commenting. Just ignore them.
We, your true fans are here for you! ❤️
Keep up the good work! 👏
Only a “discount” ? Shame on them -BOYCOTT!!
Te tea close to your gear .. aaarghhhh! 🙃
Really liked this fwiw!
How many daily cups are we talking about 😏
Comment for da algorithm
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Tubes: Was in a band in the 90s with a singer who was an electrical engineer. He said they can 100% replicate tubes in solid state. I argued it was the un-predictability of the tubes (environmental) that cannot be replicated. Today there is still this argument. There is no solid state Random Number Generator that is a true RNG. True RNG must use some un-predictable environmental element (temperature, humidity, gravity, heat, power fluctuation) to be truly random. Today SS still cannot replicate a tube for audio warmth.
Be nice to see some videos on how you actually master some music instead of all these videos where you quickly just play around with some new gear.
Ik denk dat deze type video's leuker kan zijn als je bijvoorbeeld ook vragen beantwoord uit de comments. Dan kunnen wij met jou communiceren.
Want nu is het een beetje "DIT IS EEN K$&$- PRODUCT WANT -INSERT MIJN K$T MENING-" en dan ga jij dat weerleggen. Wat op zich prima is alleen niet heel spannend. Meeste mensen lezen namelijk niet alle comments zoals jij dat zelf doet. Dus voor ons niet super boeiend wat een of andere guy op t internet typt over een video van jouw mening over een product ;)
Dit is het plan :-)
They make EQ in 500 series haha!! The comment about their not being enough space wasn't a very educated comment. Heck I have a full channel strip in my 500 series rack (2 technically but one is very limited in controls because it also has a preamp)! Compressor, saturation, and 4 band EQ. If they can fit it in a 500 series module they certainly can fit it in a 19" rack.
compressors / limiters, 3 different saturation circuits per channel, converters, clocking, thunderbolt, power to all the different components within and all the extra stuff this box has to do to be able to give you sample accurate automation and instant recall etc…
Adding additional components for eq (which are more than required for compressors) is a significant amount of extra heat. Especially since it’s digitally controlled I’d argue most users would want a minimum of 6 bands so yes that is enough heat added in that they would have to incorporate a fan to keep it 1U and that adds noise and takes up room too.
Looking at completely different gear in your studio and making uneducated comparisons is goofy behaviour.
The 16 certainly doesn’t have room for all that. The 8 would but then it wouldn’t cost just 4k would it and that defeats the purpose of having a more affordable version
I’m sure they will have an EQ version at some point but who knows, maybe it’ll have to be bigger or have different or less features on the compression side. They have certainly opened up a big rabbit hole of possibilities with where this technology can go.
On a side note, McDSP’s digital eq curves have always been some of the best in the industry but the majority of an EQs tone comes from its saturation board which the APB EQ still uses in the analogue domain !
please don't bring politics into your game man, NAFO trolls will take over under the influence of copious amounts of copium, and ruin the comment section.
What politics did he bring in the vid?
inside of apb-8 , looks verry digital imo, doesnt look like analogue equipment, but i'm no expert (@ the end of the video ) th-cam.com/video/goa_T93I9Tc/w-d-xo.html
snake oil studio
opinions are like as*holes. everyone has one
A.I will make you all obsolete , all the dumb useless courses, plugins ...all of it
If you're going to use this format...try to only respond to the appropriate comments or ones that have some type of a valid point.