I saw this new one first on camping world’s website a month ago and at the end, I thought “I can’t wait to see what Mica thinks of this one.” I personally think switching over to Keystone was the best decision Coleman could have made. I think they’ve improved them in almost every way. My only complaint, as an owner of an rv with a 10.7 cu fridge, is I would prefer they get rid of the gap between the fridge and microwave, and just put in a bigger fridge.
I was on the fence between the 17b or a Geo Pro 19bh. I bought the 17b and three years later, I'm still loving it. I added solar & upgraded the mattress.
I don't know. It looks about the same to me, but that might not mean anything. It might be better, and from a different maker. You might need to ask a knowledgeable sales person. (I say "knowledgeable" because the average sales person probably won't know.) If you can find a video produced by Coleman, they might say if it is.
Went in for a 17b but walked out with a 19bb Put two propane tanks on it and a battery shut off switch and will eventually go back up camera and solar but haven’t yet
I believe it is part of their plan. In fact that is a common tactic for just about anything. Offer something of a really low price to get you in the door, then let you see what just a few dollars more will get you. It's not a "bait and switch". They typically have the lower priced product, if you want it. This is done with cars, computers, furniture, and even new custom homes. BTW- I really believe in battery cut off switches. I am going to be doing a review on the VSTM battery switch probably next week. Not only does it protect your battery, it give you a readout on the charge you have left on it. Look for this video, soon!
it's cheaply made and the price indicates that...but as i see it like many stores/companies, the rv industry will be in a downward trend...for instance look at airsteam asking over $70k-$100+...who can afford that?...
I have personally had problem with a drip. I chalked it up to not being well leveled. Since then I have made sure the rig was not slanted that way at all. I haven't had a problem since. I am optimistic that the new builder will do better. We will have to wait and see.
The dinette table is in the lowered position, level with the benches, for use as a bed. I quickly demonstrate this in the video. For more info, See: th-cam.com/video/TIaLn_cSkR0/w-d-xo.html
One of the things I like about the 17R is the fact that, while the AC is still on the wall, it is not directly over the bed. We will have a video about the 17R in a couple of days. I think you will agree that it is better.
@@funinourrv i don't know but i can only surmise the chemical leak on the roof eventually dries up whereas the side AC chemicals drop to the ground...you know how everyone now is on the environmental awareness...but people do not say much about the chemicals in our food, air and water...who knows?
Awning is way too narrow, should go from in front of door all the way to rear of trailer. Overall, nice improvements, but I still won't do business with Camping World, they're dishonest and rip offs.
The larger awning might be a reall good idea. Perhaps the next time they decide to do a munch of improvements? There are many things that would nicer to have. It would be nice to have two axles, instead of one. Many people fell the way you do about camping world.
I saw this new one first on camping world’s website a month ago and at the end, I thought “I can’t wait to see what Mica thinks of this one.” I personally think switching over to Keystone was the best decision Coleman could have made. I think they’ve improved them in almost every way. My only complaint, as an owner of an rv with a 10.7 cu fridge, is I would prefer they get rid of the gap between the fridge and microwave, and just put in a bigger fridge.
I agree with you o everything.
@@funinourrv Seems like going to Keystone was a good move.
Looks like it to me. They needed to do something.
I was on the fence between the 17b or a Geo Pro 19bh. I bought the 17b and three years later, I'm still loving it. I added solar & upgraded the mattress.
We bought our 17B in 2022, and we really like ours.
We average about 10-12 trips a year.
Can you share more about setting us Solar?
I saw an article that stated the 2025 model has upgraded flooring. Is that true?
I don't know. It looks about the same to me, but that might not mean anything. It might be better, and from a different maker. You might need to ask a knowledgeable sales person.
(I say "knowledgeable" because the average sales person probably won't know.)
If you can find a video produced by Coleman, they might say if it is.
Went in for a 17b but walked out with a 19bb
Put two propane tanks on it and a battery shut off switch and will eventually go back up camera and solar but haven’t yet
I believe it is part of their plan. In fact that is a common tactic for just about anything. Offer something of a really low price to get you in the door, then let you see what just a few dollars more will get you. It's not a "bait and switch". They typically have the lower priced product, if you want it. This is done with cars, computers, furniture, and even new custom homes.
BTW- I really believe in battery cut off switches. I am going to be doing a review on the VSTM battery switch probably next week. Not only does it protect your battery, it give you a readout on the charge you have left on it.
Look for this video, soon!
Mainly I've heard of prior years having trouble with water coming in also noise right there by your bed
it's cheaply made and the price indicates that...but as i see it like many stores/companies, the rv industry will be in a downward trend...for instance look at airsteam asking over $70k-$100+...who can afford that?...
I have personally had problem with a drip. I chalked it up to not being well leveled.
Since then I have made sure the rig was not slanted that way at all. I haven't had a problem since.
I am optimistic that the new builder will do better. We will have to wait and see.
I didn't see any room for the feet for the table as you were recording. The table looked flat down to the floor. Confused
The dinette table is in the lowered position, level with the benches, for use as a bed. I quickly demonstrate this in the video.
For more info, See:
th-cam.com/video/TIaLn_cSkR0/w-d-xo.html
Having an air conditioner right above the bed it's definitely a downer
There are pros and cons. Why do you think it is bad?
@@funinourrv i have read some resorts do not allow trailers with ac located at the side due to chemical leaks to the ground...who knows?...
@@sherrcon But don't they all ultimately drain to the ground, regardless of where they are mounted?
One of the things I like about the 17R is the fact that, while the AC is still on the wall, it is not directly over the bed. We will have a video about the 17R in a couple of days. I think you will agree that it is better.
@@funinourrv i don't know but i can only surmise the chemical leak on the roof eventually dries up whereas the side AC chemicals drop to the ground...you know how everyone now is on the environmental awareness...but people do not say much about the chemicals in our food, air and water...who knows?
Awning is way too narrow, should go from in front of door all the way to rear of trailer. Overall, nice improvements, but I still won't do business with Camping World, they're dishonest and rip offs.
The larger awning might be a reall good idea. Perhaps the next time they decide to do a munch of improvements? There are many things that would nicer to have. It would be nice to have two axles, instead of one.
Many people fell the way you do about camping world.