Great episode guys! I should note that my initial impression of a supersonic crack from the MP5SD was incorrect - we tried subsonic rounds and the report was the same - what I took to be a 'crack' was really just the 'pop' of the suppressor, far louder indoors than out. I was, I think, believing the hype that the only sound you get from the SD is the bolt reciprocating, which is clearly not true if you look at other channels' footage.
I remember some gun channel did a test (can't remember if it was garand thumb or brandon hererra since they were both in it). The SD variant required standard rounds as if you use subsonic, the gun will not cycle, as it was designed to bleed off the excess gas.
I saw that - it's odd because everyone else's video (and anecdotally from contacts) the SD should run fine on subs. Must have been the specific load they were using.@@triadwarfare
It seems to be only a few Db less than an ordinary MP5 with a modern suppressor (although due to the way Decibels work, still audibly quieter as all the comparison videos do show) - what design the suppressor is makes a big difference to both guns; the modern KAC suppressor for the SD is significantly quieter than the 70s factory one we used.@LitReflex001
I checked out your channel hoping for more content like this and was let down… I love your explanations and of course the accent. Your job is very cool and so are you.
That's kind of you to say but can you expand on what you feel is missing from our channel? We have at least two episodes on MP5s, for example. @@Zanemob
U cant negate his full name, he is called: "Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history" His parents gave him that name on purpose ;-)
Good to see Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history in this.
yeah, seeing Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history is always nice
The HK MP5 slap is kind of the inverse of the M1 Garand iconic "ping!": the former is for having the gun reloaded and ready to fire while the latter is the inescapable announcement that the rifle has fired its last round from the clip.
@@Gameprojordan i think you miss the point bruh. He meant about the most distinctive/iconic feature of the guns, that when you see people use it, you know it. And without it, it is wrong. The forwad assist stuff can also be said about for the m4/m16 rifles, but i havent seen anyone said it is as iconic as this.
You're bang on. Each is an element that has become iconic to their respective weapon, purely through the process of operating the firearm, but has nonetheless proliferated through history.
@@Robin-yk6vf Random internet guy: "actually-" Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in Leeds: **loads 15-pounder cannon with educational intent**
Thank you for watching this episode of Loadout! The MP5 is one of my favourite firearms, so this one was a lot of fun to record. Let me know your thoughts in the comments, or you can hit me up on social media @IrregularDave, and be sure to let us know what other weapons of topics you'd like us to cover. This is our 4th episode in this series of Loadout, so be sure to go back and watch our episodes on the RPG-7 and Thompson that we released last week. Happy New Year, and see you all in 2024!
The live fire demonstrations 7:24 are always a pleasant surprise! The sight is even uncommon amongst firearms police (their MP5's are rarely select fire AFAIAA)
This is probably the best episode of Loadout thus far but that might be because you can focus on the gun and how well its portrayed versus the usual "um actually" you have to do for when pop culture gets a gun wrong. The history, the firing of the gun, the variants, all very well done.
The HK slap of the MP5 is just like racking the pump of a pump-action shotgun and hearing the shell clatter against the floor after: There's just something so inexplicably epic about it. Thank you both for the videos! Here's to 2024!
40th week of asking for Loadout on games (not) keeping track of the round in the chamber between reloads. 64th week of asking for Expert Reacts on Bullet Girls Phantasia.
I never understood how quiet the SD was, pretty much everyone just says it's the quietest SMG, but that 7:39 really proves just how quiet it is. Amazing bit of kit from the 60s/70s
I think that is because the SD basically turns Supersonic bullets into Subsonic bullets. I don't exactly know how it works and I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in this video but a normal MP5 with an external suppressor will not yield the same quietness as the SD does unless you use subsonic ammo. That's what makes the SD different, it takes normal 9mm Supersonic ammo and is still this quiet. Infact it won't even function correctly with subsonic ammo as it won't cycle with it.
I was trained with the H&K AG-3 in the Norwegian army some 20 years ago. We were specifically instructed to slap the handle, and they showed us how it tended to stick and jam if you tried to be more gentle with it.
The best part about Keanu Reeves reinventing the HK slap is that today he's done a number of different styles of handling a gun that became very iconic to the point where they were adopted by competition shooters (the mag flip reload, and the one handed press-check)
let us also not forget, the MP5 was the primary weapon of Stargate Teams for the first 3 seasons of Stargate SG-1 before they switched over to the P90 & G36K
Though amusingly, you could tell when one would be fired if you watched closely. Because non-firing prop versions had the straight Navy type grips, while the actual blank guns always had the contoured SEF type lowers. It is similar to how you can always tell if a glock will be fired in a movie by the externally visible blank-conversation cut on the back of the barrel.
We should totally get a loudout video dedicated towards Bullpup weapons specifically Would love to see Jonathan break down iconic weapons like the Famas and AUG
Yes.👍Would love to see a Loudout video on the FAMAS. Especially one with Ian McCollum as a guest since he practically wrote a book on the development of the FAMAS.🙂
Honestly just Dave slapping the MP5 is super satisfying. It's one of the most Iconic weapons for a reason and it has it's place in the Hall of Fame for Firearms. Hope you two have a great new Year and onto more Episodes of Loadout in 2024 just like this one. Much love Jonathan and Dave.
I saw the slap described in one of the first manuals from HK, both MP5 and G3. That said, it's more important on the G3 since the bolt might very well not go into battery if you are too careful with it. Used both for many years until they were replaced by 416 and MP7s.
@@Kraakesolv It's curious that they waited until the PSG-1 and/or the G41 to try putting a manual bolt closure thingy on the weapons. The rationale for the device on the PSG-1 was that the operator of such a weapon would sometimes find themselves in a situation where they would want to stay as quiet as possible, making a noisy reload undesirable. With the manual bolt closure, they could let the cocking handle ride forward slowly and quietly, then push the bolt home with their right thumb. It would follow surely, that a similar device would have been just as useful on the SD variants for exactly the same reason? When quiet, and stealth are the objectives, noisy and loud reloading sounds aren't exactly desirable, no matter how cool or stylish they might look. The bolt closure on the G41 incidentally, had nothing to do with being quiet - HK were trying to compete for a universal NATO rifle and worried that the Americans would get upset if there wasn't a forward assist, like on the M-16...
It feels like if you were tasked with choosing an SMG for an armed force, you would never have to justify selecting the MP5, but you would have to justify selecting anything that isn't the MP5. That's how great its legacy has become.
tbf that's true for amny areas where the money handling part of an organisation goes with something they know. Even if the experts might suggest a different option for technical reasons. That's the main reason Intel can still sell server CPU's.
Oddly enough, I fell in love with the MP5 when I played Enter the Matrix 😅. And I like that, after so many cursed guns, Jonathan Ferguson gets to enjoy his favorite gun before the end of the year
The MP5 became so iconic, because it´s just such a good firearm. It´s extremely accurate, reliable & very smooth to shoot even in full auto. And it´s still relatively widely used by law enforcement in many countries, despite SMG´s being phased out for more compact carbine style rifles.
A lot of people don't know this, but there's actually a legal obligation to perform the "HK Slap" when loading or reloading the MP5 and it's civilian counterpart the SP5.
I actually spoke to someone who had the MP5 as a standard weapon in private security, The SMG was also a favorite among special groups due to it's modern design and customization
I think the MP5 is probably one of the first guns I was ever aware of growing up as a specific type and model of firearm that I could recognise across different films and games (probably thanks largely to Die Hard and The Matrix). It's undoubtedly iconic, and just seems so perfectly engineered that I always enjoy seeing them being used and manipulated as all the sounds and movements are just so satisfying. Great episode, glad the venerable MP5 finally got covered in this series.
The slap is one of the reasons this weapon is so iconic and why it's captured the public imagination as much as it has, to the point we still talk about it today and consider it the quintessential smg. I like to think that on whichever weapon the slap was introduced for, during the prototyping or trial stages for the weapon, one of the testers slapped the cocking lever and HK realised such a unique method of prepping the gun would make it stand out so went with it.
Back in the day we called it the "girlie-5" (In Norwegian it rhymes with MP-5), because the standard military assault rifle at the time was the G3,- variant AG3 which is, as Alex pointed out, in the same family, but very much the big brother. So support and base security usually had the MP5. 18 to 20 year olds being what they are off course tacitly mocked the non-grunt's little sister of weapons. Being a signaller now in the national guard I have the MP5. Having used and handled it over a few years, I now see how it fit's its role perfectly. Accurate, lighter, rugged and reliable. And this video made me appreciate it even more.
Bundeswehr not encouraging the slap may have been to do with the largely conscript army at the time? Manual of arms may have been adapted due to concerns around largely having civvies with not much training or time? Dunno...I trained on the G36 in basic and only used the G3 later when going to the firing range as one of the exotic guns the waka would give us for fun😉
The slap they've referenced would be the same for G3 and MP5 as they're using the same system. MP5 was (is?) used by the Feldjäger which is the military police but never by the regular forces as far as I am aware (exclude special forces here who always have more leeway in what they use).
Manually moving the handle also stops unwanted flagging of the gun. Someone could slap the gun and push it downward or two the side by accident. The force of hitting the gun on its side and only having your 1 hand actually holding onto the gun could cause it to pivot
You can chamber a round in the G3 by slowly pulling the handle out of its notch and then letting go, so the spring does the work. If you do the same with an MP5 that's been in use for some time as most of the Bund's weapons always have, the spring might not build up the momentum to push the chamber into a fully closed position if you don't hold it the whole way back. As far as I know, anyway.
@@JS-ui5ewYeah. The weapon is only used by KSK, combat swimmers, military police and long-distance scouts within the Bundeswehr in various versions. It used to be part of the standard equipment of the boarding teams. That's what I could find out about it's use by the Bundeswehr so you are right that it was never issued to regular forces. Doesn't surprise me tho.
i had to rewatch that matrix scene after you mentioned it and i only just now realized what an eclectic array of weapons shows up on the racks like there's a tommy gun right behind her
Goes well with Neo stating they needed lots of guns. The operator back at the ship probably figured it was the quickest to just input the equivalent of ">summon guns -all" at the command prompt. :D
I have a mod for Fallout 4 that adds in the MP5. I usually use the SD version - it's one of my two 'stealth' guns, along with a suppressed Steyr AUG. Of course, when I want to go loud, I bring out my neverending Pancor Jackhammer. There are few things as satisfying as unloading a few hundred shells on a horde of ghouls or mirelurks.
I recently got to fire an MP5 in full auto. I was surprised by how easy it was to keep it on target. Super controllable. Instantly clear why it is so popular with Military and Police forces around the world.
SWAT 3 and SWAT 2003 were the source of my love for the MP5. Whenever I boot up the game I usually pick it and go to town, and when SWAT 2003 came out I got it from the library and it came with behind the scenes and extra content, especially the videos on the individual firearms, as a young kid I got super giddy.
I Didn't know the GL was a thing, Arnold had an MP5 with GL in "End Of Days" but I thought it was just a cool gimmick for that movie. Love these videos, thanks guys!
I can give you military logic reason for the slap. It will allow the bolt close properly. There would be people that would 'guide' the handle to the forward position which would cause malfunction. Teaching people slap the handle would make sure that this will not happen.
In the swedish home guard, where we use a swedish variant of the G3 (called the AK 4), we don't slap the handle, but rather make a "karate chop" motion that we follow through and don't stop when hitting the charging handle.
Manufacturer instructs user to follow slap procedure which causes cumulative wear on the receiver and cocking handle. Not suspicious at all, until the cocking handle slips forward 'on its own'.
Insurgency Sandstorm has two variants of the MP5, the A2 and the A5(?). The A5 can become the MP5SD while the A2 is all external mods. The only game defining differences between outside of aesthetics is the A2 is Single/Full Auto while the A5 has single, burst, and full auto. Both are really good in their own rights and solid platforms with the iconic slap.
There's a version of the MP5 out on the American market that's semi-auto and chambered for 22LR. It has a barrel extension that makes it look like it's silenced too. A perfect example of the Rule of Cool, because this thing exists purely so you can slap some SMG while not spending a lot of money for a larger cartridge or the NFA necessary for a silencer.
For those who don't know guns; 'DOWN-LOADING' a magazine means loading your magazine NOT to capacity. For example, with the MP5, you'd load 28 or 29 rounds instead of 30. The reason you would do this is for reasons of RELIABILITY. If your gun or the magazine you are using is having ammunition feeding issues, 'down-loading' can alleviated those issues. Usually, you only see people doing this with magazines that are either higher capacity or, much more commonly (interestingly enough), LOWER capacity than that gun's usual magazines. For example, with the AKs, which take 30-round magazines usually, often you'll see people 'down-load' their 10-round mags to 9 or 8, if they live somewhere the law makes them use 10-rounds mags. Edit; you also would download your magazine if you have a new magazine and the soring is so stiff that it doesn't have enough give to it to easily seat your magazine in the gun.
In terms of future episodes, you should take a look at either Squad 44, formerly known as Post Scriptum, or War of Rights, a 200 vs 200 American Civil war team based shooter. Both go to great lengths to have realistic weapons with both small arms and artillery, and both encourage large degrees of team play, with WoRs basically requiring proper line battle formations to achieve success.
Perfect Dark needs to be a “Firearms Expert Reacts” video. So many fun guns like the Laptop gun, the Dragon, the RCP120, Mauler, Cyclone… and all of their secondary functions… would love to see Jonathan’s reaction to some of the crazier ideas.
Great episode as always! 👍 And after seeing the UI for a split second i really wanna dig up Rainbow Six (1-3) now, the actual planning/tactical aspect of that game was amazing and its a real shame they phased that out in the next few games of the series, we could have had something today that would've gone way beyond "ready or not" but instead we have some fast paced slidey shooter that has very little resemblance to the first few games. Ubisoft, if this somehow ever reaches you lot, please realize that you could make a LOT of money if you combine your latest RB6 with your first two-three RB6 games, please consider it.
I think the MP5SD is the perfect apocalypse weapon. Primarily as you can feed it whatever 9mm ammo you find and the porting in the barrel makes it sub-sonic and very quiet. With a regular SMG or rifle you still need sub-sonic ammo to make good use of the suppressor
0:51 the torch variant of the MP5 looks like it came from Sons of the Forest and their thoughts to nerf attachments is to obstruct the sights if it's attached.
I like me an MP5, but I do think my favourite SMG is the P90. Between fictional use in Stargate and real-world use with the JTF2, it just feels like the epitome of the SMG to me. MP5 is, without doubt, the poster-child of SMGs, however.
8:21 I could imagine a scene where some criminals/terrorists are just sitting around getting annoyed from hearing snaps and claps from the other rooms and probably thinking it was the electric fly catcher or something, oblivious to the fact that a SWAT team is in the midst of clearing their compound.
I was in Police training for my state in Northern Germany, and we used OG 69/70ies MP5s for the submachinegun training. (We know because they're stamped with the manufacturing year and the Sigil of our state) They still run. They will continue to run. These bad gals won't fail on you if you treat them right. Even after almost 60 years. And the training models get a few hundred rounds put through them each year. They're not being kept neatly in the closet. This is a gun from an era where we were still an industry nation focused on producing high quality products. EDIT Note: My department indoctrinated us to "Slap" it, not just thumb it out like my previous employer.
MP5 became one of my favorite firearms from playing as HUNK in Resident Evil and as the SAS in Call of Duty 4. It's easily top 3, alongside the Thompson SMG and the M1 Garand. I wish I could fire a real one of these sometime.
This is the submachine gun MP5, the keeper of 9mm bullets and tracer rounds from Heckler & Koch in Germany, which makes thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
8:26 Okay this is a bizarre connection to make, but I have to point this out. Seeing this shot of the MP5 with the mag taken out gave me flashbacks to the machine gun from Quake 2 of all things. I always thought it was such a weirdly designed gun, because even ignoring the erroneous depiction of ironsights (which was very common on low poly models of the era) the gun doesn't have any source of ammunition. There's nowhere for you to put a magazine. But seeing this made me realize they probably were referencing a picture of an SMG with the magazine taken out, maybe even an MP5 specifically. Go look up a picture of the Quake 2 machine gun and you'll see what I mean.
YO when did johnathan forges on the keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armouries museum in the uk which houses thousands of weapons throughout history’s editing get so sick? The Irl hkslap at the end of the song was fire
Bit of a correct for the video (that I assume everyone knows. But since this is the unscripted section he just said words) the MP5K's K means Kurz or "short" in German. The SD is definitely the coolest for me, just the fact that it can be so quiet is amazingly cool. Also why I like the Welrod but that is more just brute force to quiet it. Also, fun fact: even Hunt Down the Freeman features the HK slap...if you know about HDtF you will know why I mention it.
My favorites are the Perfect Dark zero, Black and counter strike [original xbox ] versions of the smg, the MP5 is a really cool gun indeed. That and the P90 :3
Great episode guys! I should note that my initial impression of a supersonic crack from the MP5SD was incorrect - we tried subsonic rounds and the report was the same - what I took to be a 'crack' was really just the 'pop' of the suppressor, far louder indoors than out. I was, I think, believing the hype that the only sound you get from the SD is the bolt reciprocating, which is clearly not true if you look at other channels' footage.
I remember some gun channel did a test (can't remember if it was garand thumb or brandon hererra since they were both in it). The SD variant required standard rounds as if you use subsonic, the gun will not cycle, as it was designed to bleed off the excess gas.
I saw that - it's odd because everyone else's video (and anecdotally from contacts) the SD should run fine on subs. Must have been the specific load they were using.@@triadwarfare
It seems to be only a few Db less than an ordinary MP5 with a modern suppressor (although due to the way Decibels work, still audibly quieter as all the comparison videos do show) - what design the suppressor is makes a big difference to both guns; the modern KAC suppressor for the SD is significantly quieter than the 70s factory one we used.@LitReflex001
I checked out your channel hoping for more content like this and was let down… I love your explanations and of course the accent. Your job is very cool and so are you.
That's kind of you to say but can you expand on what you feel is missing from our channel? We have at least two episodes on MP5s, for example. @@Zanemob
U cant negate his full name, he is called: "Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history"
His parents gave him that name on purpose ;-)
Little Jonny "TKOFAAATRAMITUKWHACOTOIWFTH" Ferguson
Imagine his business card.
nominative determinism at it's finest 😅
He worked his way up to that position to justify his name, and they better respect him for his dedication!
@@ErwinPommelI read out every letter in my head out of respect
Good to see Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history in this.
yeah, seeing Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history is always nice
The HK MP5 slap is kind of the inverse of the M1 Garand iconic "ping!": the former is for having the gun reloaded and ready to fire while the latter is the inescapable announcement that the rifle has fired its last round from the clip.
Nailed it bro. You should be higher.
M1 garand forward assist would be a better comparison. Smack the back of the charging handle to launch the bolt forward and put it into battery
@@Gameprojordan i think you miss the point bruh. He meant about the most distinctive/iconic feature of the guns, that when you see people use it, you know it. And without it, it is wrong. The forwad assist stuff can also be said about for the m4/m16 rifles, but i havent seen anyone said it is as iconic as this.
Except the ping don't matter much in combat because there would be 6-8 of them with BAR, Thompson or M1919 somewhere in between
You're bang on. Each is an element that has become iconic to their respective weapon, purely through the process of operating the firearm, but has nonetheless proliferated through history.
To be fair, who would want to fight a man with access to almost unlimited arms and artillery?
especially artillery xD
Arms or firearms >:D
@@Robin-yk6vf Random internet guy: "actually-"
Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in Leeds: **loads 15-pounder cannon with educational intent**
@@medicolkie3606why stop at 15
@@naenaemister5048when you can go 890mm
Thank you for watching this episode of Loadout!
The MP5 is one of my favourite firearms, so this one was a lot of fun to record.
Let me know your thoughts in the comments, or you can hit me up on social media @IrregularDave, and be sure to let us know what other weapons of topics you'd like us to cover.
This is our 4th episode in this series of Loadout, so be sure to go back and watch our episodes on the RPG-7 and Thompson that we released last week.
Happy New Year, and see you all in 2024!
Keep up the great work on this series!
The live fire demonstrations 7:24 are always a pleasant surprise! The sight is even uncommon amongst firearms police (their MP5's are rarely select fire AFAIAA)
This is probably the best episode of Loadout thus far but that might be because you can focus on the gun and how well its portrayed versus the usual "um actually" you have to do for when pop culture gets a gun wrong. The history, the firing of the gun, the variants, all very well done.
The HK slap of the MP5 is just like racking the pump of a pump-action shotgun and hearing the shell clatter against the floor after: There's just something so inexplicably epic about it.
Thank you both for the videos! Here's to 2024!
40th week of asking for Loadout on games (not) keeping track of the round in the chamber between reloads. 64th week of asking for Expert Reacts on Bullet Girls Phantasia.
I never understood how quiet the SD was, pretty much everyone just says it's the quietest SMG, but that 7:39 really proves just how quiet it is. Amazing bit of kit from the 60s/70s
I fired one indoors without ear protection. It wasn’t movie quiet, but it was still quiet enough to use it without being uncomfortable.
Well, the bolt is noisier than its gunshot
Forgotten Weapons did a good video showcasing how quiet it is too. It's insane
I think that is because the SD basically turns Supersonic bullets into Subsonic bullets. I don't exactly know how it works and I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in this video but a normal MP5 with an external suppressor will not yield the same quietness as the SD does unless you use subsonic ammo.
That's what makes the SD different, it takes normal 9mm Supersonic ammo and is still this quiet. Infact it won't even function correctly with subsonic ammo as it won't cycle with it.
@@Z38_US the barrels are ported and as it passes through the barrel, the excess gases are vented into the suppressor.
I was trained with the H&K AG-3 in the Norwegian army some 20 years ago. We were specifically instructed to slap the handle, and they showed us how it tended to stick and jam if you tried to be more gentle with it.
The best part about Keanu Reeves reinventing the HK slap is that today he's done a number of different styles of handling a gun that became very iconic to the point where they were adopted by competition shooters (the mag flip reload, and the one handed press-check)
Reeves was taught the Wick Flick (and CAR) by competition shooters
What started as a speed reloading technique for competition shooting will now forever be known as The Wick Flick
PSR getting a shoutout like this in a video is so strong! Happy new years
let us also not forget, the MP5 was the primary weapon of Stargate Teams for the first 3 seasons of Stargate SG-1 before they switched over to the P90 & G36K
Though amusingly, you could tell when one would be fired if you watched closely. Because non-firing prop versions had the straight Navy type grips, while the actual blank guns always had the contoured SEF type lowers. It is similar to how you can always tell if a glock will be fired in a movie by the externally visible blank-conversation cut on the back of the barrel.
Just wanted to saaaay :D ahahha the series is the reason i'm in love with the P90 and the MP5
yeah that show was the peak of 9/11-era milprop silliness
A classic! When we did the P90 episode last year there was a lot of nerdy chat about SG1
That show was awesome. Tv afterwards became a blur.
We should totally get a loudout video dedicated towards Bullpup weapons specifically
Would love to see Jonathan break down iconic weapons like the Famas and AUG
If they are going to cover the famas, they might as well have Ian from Forgotten Weapons make an appearance.
Yes.👍Would love to see a Loudout video on the FAMAS. Especially one with Ian McCollum as a guest since he practically wrote a book on the development of the FAMAS.🙂
Honestly just Dave slapping the MP5 is super satisfying. It's one of the most Iconic weapons for a reason and it has it's place in the Hall of Fame for Firearms. Hope you two have a great new Year and onto more Episodes of Loadout in 2024 just like this one. Much love Jonathan and Dave.
With this and making an M1 Garand go "PING", they are some firearm bucket list moments for me.
@@IrregularDave Understandable, it just looks so nice. One more thing of the list ^^
@@IrregularDave I imagine those moments would do quite well as standalone clips.
I think HK knew the Slap will catch on due to the design of the MP5. They didn’t expect it to be this big
I saw the slap described in one of the first manuals from HK, both MP5 and G3. That said, it's more important on the G3 since the bolt might very well not go into battery if you are too careful with it. Used both for many years until they were replaced by 416 and MP7s.
@@Kraakesolv
It's curious that they waited until the PSG-1 and/or the G41 to try putting a manual bolt closure thingy on the weapons.
The rationale for the device on the PSG-1 was that the operator of such a weapon would sometimes find themselves in a situation where they would want to stay as quiet as possible, making a noisy reload undesirable. With the manual bolt closure, they could let the cocking handle ride forward slowly and quietly, then push the bolt home with their right thumb.
It would follow surely, that a similar device would have been just as useful on the SD variants for exactly the same reason? When quiet, and stealth are the objectives, noisy and loud reloading sounds aren't exactly desirable, no matter how cool or stylish they might look.
The bolt closure on the G41 incidentally, had nothing to do with being quiet - HK were trying to compete for a universal NATO rifle and worried that the Americans would get upset if there wasn't a forward assist, like on the M-16...
Happy New Year Everyone!
Happy new year
Happy New Year fellas and fellettes
Not yet here😁
Same here it’s still the 31st here
Happy New Year, my friend!
Congratulations to Johnathan Ferguson for his engagement and marriage to the MP5 in 2024. They make such a good pair.
It feels like if you were tasked with choosing an SMG for an armed force, you would never have to justify selecting the MP5, but you would have to justify selecting anything that isn't the MP5. That's how great its legacy has become.
tbf that's true for amny areas where the money handling part of an organisation goes with something they know. Even if the experts might suggest a different option for technical reasons.
That's the main reason Intel can still sell server CPU's.
@@Thisandthat8908damn that is a savage intel burn you snuck in there lol
mp7 would be up there too
Or the p90
Oddly enough, I fell in love with the MP5 when I played Enter the Matrix 😅. And I like that, after so many cursed guns, Jonathan Ferguson gets to enjoy his favorite gun before the end of the year
The MP5 became so iconic, because it´s just such a good firearm.
It´s extremely accurate, reliable & very smooth to shoot even in full auto.
And it´s still relatively widely used by law enforcement in many countries, despite SMG´s being phased out for more compact carbine style rifles.
A lot of people don't know this, but there's actually a legal obligation to perform the "HK Slap" when loading or reloading the MP5 and it's civilian counterpart the SP5.
"Either the gun gets slapped or you do. Your choice."
@@ACuriousTanuki I believe that is also in the clause!
I actually spoke to someone who had the MP5 as a standard weapon in private security, The SMG was also a favorite among special groups due to it's modern design and customization
Love that early MP5SD. Looks so sleek with that slim handguard that has the exact same width as the suppressor
This. Loved that gun in rainbow six the first game.. so sleek
Only when holding an MP5 can you unironically ask "May I slap it ?" and everyone around is satisfied 😅
Had to ask nicely! Manners maketh man!
LOL @@IrregularDave
I think the MP5 is probably one of the first guns I was ever aware of growing up as a specific type and model of firearm that I could recognise across different films and games (probably thanks largely to Die Hard and The Matrix). It's undoubtedly iconic, and just seems so perfectly engineered that I always enjoy seeing them being used and manipulated as all the sounds and movements are just so satisfying. Great episode, glad the venerable MP5 finally got covered in this series.
Love seeing PSR's HK Slap video here! Icon of HK slappage
The slap is one of the reasons this weapon is so iconic and why it's captured the public imagination as much as it has, to the point we still talk about it today and consider it the quintessential smg.
I like to think that on whichever weapon the slap was introduced for, during the prototyping or trial stages for the weapon, one of the testers slapped the cocking lever and HK realised such a unique method of prepping the gun would make it stand out so went with it.
Ah, the "slap me Baby" SMG!
Hello fellow slap enthusiasts.
The artist themselves!
You made a real catchy bop, friend!
Back in the day we called it the "girlie-5" (In Norwegian it rhymes with MP-5), because the standard military assault rifle at the time was the G3,- variant AG3 which is, as Alex pointed out, in the same family, but very much the big brother. So support and base security usually had the MP5.
18 to 20 year olds being what they are off course tacitly mocked the non-grunt's little sister of weapons.
Being a signaller now in the national guard I have the MP5. Having used and handled it over a few years, I now see how it fit's its role perfectly. Accurate, lighter, rugged and reliable. And this video made me appreciate it even more.
7:34 I started touching my face to check if it was still real life, dude is that a stapler??? Outstanding...
Bundeswehr not encouraging the slap may have been to do with the largely conscript army at the time? Manual of arms may have been adapted due to concerns around largely having civvies with not much training or time? Dunno...I trained on the G36 in basic and only used the G3 later when going to the firing range as one of the exotic guns the waka would give us for fun😉
I would have guessed it's more a police weapon. SEK, GSG9 ... But frankly I don't know.
The slap they've referenced would be the same for G3 and MP5 as they're using the same system. MP5 was (is?) used by the Feldjäger which is the military police but never by the regular forces as far as I am aware (exclude special forces here who always have more leeway in what they use).
Manually moving the handle also stops unwanted flagging of the gun. Someone could slap the gun and push it downward or two the side by accident. The force of hitting the gun on its side and only having your 1 hand actually holding onto the gun could cause it to pivot
You can chamber a round in the G3 by slowly pulling the handle out of its notch and then letting go, so the spring does the work. If you do the same with an MP5 that's been in use for some time as most of the Bund's weapons always have, the spring might not build up the momentum to push the chamber into a fully closed position if you don't hold it the whole way back.
As far as I know, anyway.
@@JS-ui5ewYeah.
The weapon is only used by KSK, combat swimmers, military police and long-distance scouts within the Bundeswehr in various versions.
It used to be part of the standard equipment of the boarding teams.
That's what I could find out about it's use by the Bundeswehr so you are right that it was never issued to regular forces. Doesn't surprise me tho.
i had to rewatch that matrix scene after you mentioned it and i only just now realized what an eclectic array of weapons shows up on the racks like there's a tommy gun right behind her
Goes well with Neo stating they needed lots of guns. The operator back at the ship probably figured it was the quickest to just input the equivalent of ">summon guns -all" at the command prompt. :D
I have a mod for Fallout 4 that adds in the MP5. I usually use the SD version - it's one of my two 'stealth' guns, along with a suppressed Steyr AUG.
Of course, when I want to go loud, I bring out my neverending Pancor Jackhammer. There are few things as satisfying as unloading a few hundred shells on a horde of ghouls or mirelurks.
I recently got to fire an MP5 in full auto. I was surprised by how easy it was to keep it on target. Super controllable. Instantly clear why it is so popular with Military and Police forces around the world.
one of the most, if not the most satisfying guns to reload.
SWAT 3 and SWAT 2003 were the source of my love for the MP5. Whenever I boot up the game I usually pick it and go to town, and when SWAT 2003 came out I got it from the library and it came with behind the scenes and extra content, especially the videos on the individual firearms, as a young kid I got super giddy.
Props for including PSR's video in there.
That's a like from me!
I Didn't know the GL was a thing, Arnold had an MP5 with GL in "End Of Days" but I thought it was just a cool gimmick for that movie. Love these videos, thanks guys!
I can give you military logic reason for the slap. It will allow the bolt close properly. There would be people that would 'guide' the handle to the forward position which would cause malfunction. Teaching people slap the handle would make sure that this will not happen.
I would love to see Pump Action MP5 in real life
0:38 awesome animation
Definitely wasn’t expecting a PSR clip on here. Very happy though.
So glad to have Loadout back!
In the swedish home guard, where we use a swedish variant of the G3 (called the AK 4), we don't slap the handle, but rather make a "karate chop" motion that we follow through and don't stop when hitting the charging handle.
Dugan Ashley taught us that the SD stands for "Super-Duper quiet".
Love seeing the two you nerding out over guns! Keep up the amazing year, and hopefully a lote more comes in 2024!
Probably the best new year gift.
good job about Discussion and Review of The Most Slapped Guns In Games - Loadout from MP5
My family watches Die Hard every Christmas (as, it is the most Christmassy movie). So, this is the perfect time for this video.
The MP5: For slappers only.
Manufacturer instructs user to follow slap procedure which causes cumulative wear on the receiver and cocking handle. Not suspicious at all, until the cocking handle slips forward 'on its own'.
Insurgency Sandstorm has two variants of the MP5, the A2 and the A5(?). The A5 can become the MP5SD while the A2 is all external mods. The only game defining differences between outside of aesthetics is the A2 is Single/Full Auto while the A5 has single, burst, and full auto. Both are really good in their own rights and solid platforms with the iconic slap.
This was the Royal Armoury’s Christmas present to Jonathan.
There's a version of the MP5 out on the American market that's semi-auto and chambered for 22LR. It has a barrel extension that makes it look like it's silenced too. A perfect example of the Rule of Cool, because this thing exists purely so you can slap some SMG while not spending a lot of money for a larger cartridge or the NFA necessary for a silencer.
For those who don't know guns; 'DOWN-LOADING' a magazine means loading your magazine NOT to capacity. For example, with the MP5, you'd load 28 or 29 rounds instead of 30.
The reason you would do this is for reasons of RELIABILITY. If your gun or the magazine you are using is having ammunition feeding issues, 'down-loading' can alleviated those issues.
Usually, you only see people doing this with magazines that are either higher capacity or, much more commonly (interestingly enough), LOWER capacity than that gun's usual magazines. For example, with the AKs, which take 30-round magazines usually, often you'll see people 'down-load' their 10-round mags to 9 or 8, if they live somewhere the law makes them use 10-rounds mags.
Edit; you also would download your magazine if you have a new magazine and the soring is so stiff that it doesn't have enough give to it to easily seat your magazine in the gun.
In terms of future episodes, you should take a look at either Squad 44, formerly known as Post Scriptum, or War of Rights, a 200 vs 200 American Civil war team based shooter. Both go to great lengths to have realistic weapons with both small arms and artillery, and both encourage large degrees of team play, with WoRs basically requiring proper line battle formations to achieve success.
Perfect Dark needs to be a “Firearms Expert Reacts” video. So many fun guns like the Laptop gun, the Dragon, the RCP120, Mauler, Cyclone… and all of their secondary functions… would love to see Jonathan’s reaction to some of the crazier ideas.
Love the PSR representation!
Great episode as always! 👍
And after seeing the UI for a split second i really wanna dig up Rainbow Six (1-3) now, the actual planning/tactical aspect of that game was amazing and its a real shame they phased that out in the next few games of the series, we could have had something today that would've gone way beyond "ready or not" but instead we have some fast paced slidey shooter that has very little resemblance to the first few games.
Ubisoft, if this somehow ever reaches you lot, please realize that you could make a LOT of money if you combine your latest RB6 with your first two-three RB6 games, please consider it.
Better forgetting how silent a gun is and putting ear protection on instead of the other way and losing hearing.
Dude really went into world of guns and gave his mp5 a banana paint job for the thumbnail.
Madman.
The discussion rapidly became awkward when a friend who owns an mp5 described the slap as "giving her a nice spank"
Seeing you guys shoot the guns in the range was very cool and would like to see that more
I think the MP5SD is the perfect apocalypse weapon. Primarily as you can feed it whatever 9mm ammo you find and the porting in the barrel makes it sub-sonic and very quiet. With a regular SMG or rifle you still need sub-sonic ammo to make good use of the suppressor
I could watch this guy talk about guns all day
The MP5 fits really well in the hands and is easy to line up a sight picture. A treat to shoot at full auto.
The MP5SD with the full stock has always been one of the coolest looking guns in my opinion
Clicked to find out what slapped means. Also mp5 is the best looking gun to me, especially with a silencer.
Now this video slaps!
I love "Gun Moses" (John) soo much. He's so cool for a Brit.
0:51 the torch variant of the MP5 looks like it came from Sons of the Forest and their thoughts to nerf attachments is to obstruct the sights if it's attached.
I like me an MP5, but I do think my favourite SMG is the P90. Between fictional use in Stargate and real-world use with the JTF2, it just feels like the epitome of the SMG to me.
MP5 is, without doubt, the poster-child of SMGs, however.
8:21 I could imagine a scene where some criminals/terrorists are just sitting around getting annoyed from hearing snaps and claps from the other rooms and probably thinking it was the electric fly catcher or something, oblivious to the fact that a SWAT team is in the midst of clearing their compound.
definitely top 3 firearms in the history, very small spread for the rate of fire, iconic looks, very modable and of course the slap
The MP5 is one of those Legendary weapons that is iconic no matter where you see it...together with the AK47, M16 even the Garand.
Even though my heart will always belong to the P90 and MP7, there's no denying that the MP5 is the most iconic Sub-Machine Gun.
The dude trying to look through the bottom of the flashlight 😂silly billy
As someone who has shot an MP5, the slap is as satisfying as you imagine it to be.
The MP5 and its SD variant are also featured in Hitman 2: Silent Assassin. Ahh… the memories…
Do you have an mp9 or mp7 at the museum? If so I would love to see a video on it.
I know they are hard to get your hands on.
I was in Police training for my state in Northern Germany, and we used OG 69/70ies MP5s for the submachinegun training. (We know because they're stamped with the manufacturing year and the Sigil of our state) They still run. They will continue to run. These bad gals won't fail on you if you treat them right. Even after almost 60 years. And the training models get a few hundred rounds put through them each year. They're not being kept neatly in the closet. This is a gun from an era where we were still an industry nation focused on producing high quality products.
EDIT Note: My department indoctrinated us to "Slap" it, not just thumb it out like my previous employer.
Okay, now I want to see Jonathan on the range, maybe a guest on Garand Thumb. He's surely a good shot with all his handling experience.
MP5 became one of my favorite firearms from playing as HUNK in Resident Evil and as the SAS in Call of Duty 4. It's easily top 3, alongside the Thompson SMG and the M1 Garand. I wish I could fire a real one of these sometime.
Babe wake up it's another upload featuring "Jonathan Ferguson the keeper of arms and artillery at the Royal Armories in the UK".
This is the submachine gun MP5, the keeper of 9mm bullets and tracer rounds from Heckler & Koch in Germany, which makes thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
8:26 Okay this is a bizarre connection to make, but I have to point this out.
Seeing this shot of the MP5 with the mag taken out gave me flashbacks to the machine gun from Quake 2 of all things. I always thought it was such a weirdly designed gun, because even ignoring the erroneous depiction of ironsights (which was very common on low poly models of the era) the gun doesn't have any source of ammunition. There's nowhere for you to put a magazine. But seeing this made me realize they probably were referencing a picture of an SMG with the magazine taken out, maybe even an MP5 specifically. Go look up a picture of the Quake 2 machine gun and you'll see what I mean.
Happy New Year. Fantastic Weapon and Video thank you very very much!
YO when did johnathan forges on the keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armouries museum in the uk which houses thousands of weapons throughout history’s editing get so sick? The Irl hkslap at the end of the song was fire
Bit of a correct for the video (that I assume everyone knows. But since this is the unscripted section he just said words) the MP5K's K means Kurz or "short" in German.
The SD is definitely the coolest for me, just the fact that it can be so quiet is amazingly cool. Also why I like the Welrod but that is more just brute force to quiet it.
Also, fun fact: even Hunt Down the Freeman features the HK slap...if you know about HDtF you will know why I mention it.
Amazing episode.
Was happy to hear the hk slap song!
Getting slap happy before the new year.
Even before I really started getting into guns I loved the mp5. Easily one of the greatest guns ever made.
Only fire arm as quiet or more quite is the de lisle carbine. Where the bolt being reset is the loudest thing on the carbine.
My favorites are the Perfect Dark zero, Black and counter strike [original xbox ] versions of the smg, the MP5 is a really cool gun indeed. That and the P90 :3
All that, and no mention of the suitcase version. I was hoping for that to be on the table.
Surprise PSR cameo! Nice.
Anyone else still remember Print Shoot Repeats HK SHLAP song?
Always down to see Jonathan geek out about the MP5
Jonathans year end treat - talking 20+ min about the MP5