Hopefully the fact that the airtime is mostly floater and not hitting extremes means it won’t create too much extra wear and tear so they keep the trim off, having Mamba be a great ride as opposed to a deeply disappointing one is huge for the park
Mamba is also my favorite at the park, row 3 is my favorite seat. I also got to ride at night when the fireworks were going off so that was pretty cool too.
This thing absolutely blew me away when I visited last summer. It rides like a modern magnum, and on the day I visited temps were soaring. Every hill gave borderline violent ejector and the midcourse still barely touched the train. It’s a top 25 coaster for me.
Mamba is now running like it did when it first opened. Back then, I remember the ejector airtime on those bunny hills being insane. So, it was a huge disappointment when they overdid it with the midcourse brakes, it killed all of the fun. When I got a first ride after they changed the control system I was stunned; in disbelief at how much I thoroughly enjoyed it and how giddy it made me. The floater off the lift hill and then the camel back is exquisite. Your butt is out of the seat and you effectively free fall until the train smacks down on the track in the valleys. I actually have to brace for it since it can be jarring. Whereas the midcourse trim had become a buzzkill, now you go flying when it drops into the bunny hills. You’re in air more than you’re seated and absolutely haul into the final brake run where you get one last pop of airtime in the front. One of Mamba’s strengths is the length of its trains. Yeah, it cranks out more passengers per hour. However, the beauty of its length is that the front and back rows offer different ride experiences - floater vs ejector. It’s almost like riding two different coasters. (Row 3 is my go-to.) Mamba has gone from “I might as well ride since I’m here and that camel back is kind of cool” to being an absolute must ride with each visit. I know many in the coaster community have been underwhelmed by the new Zambezi, but I have grown to absolutely love it. With Mamba, Zambezi, and Prowler, Worlds of Fun has one of the most underrated coaster lineups out there. Those three sure got me back to the park more times than any year in the past.
Zambezi is a solid ride, as long as you go in not expecting airtime. The pacing and lats are great. Mamba is now my favorite in the park with how it runs.
I lucked out just happening to make my first trip to WOF last June. i had heard the trim was turned off but I was not prepared for how awesome that ride was. I get bored sometimes with B&M hypers and their redudnancy (why Goliath is my favorite). I flew in to KC on a Saturday and waited 3 hours since it was on one train, but it was worth it. Went back the next morning for rope drop and got 4 walk on rides before heading to Branson. I went to WOF really just to check it off my list but Mamba has made me want to come back. Also thanks for answering my question about filming at Lagoon. Had an awesome time it's such a great park.
Funny thing is, nagashima spaland executives actually visited this park to ride mamba and then basically said, yep we need this but just make it the longest coaster in the world, and then make it 318 feet high.
This year was my first time I visited WoF and Mamba was indeed, spectacular. Yeah, it blew Steel Force and Steel Eel(the only Morgan's I've ridden) away. Although I still love Steel Eel for its "unique" air time. Personally, I thought the magic seat was in row 3 like Magnum(but I really dislike Magnum and love this coaster)... They had a sprinkler running on the bottom of the helix and we were coming in so hot they were watering down the brake run too. BTW, going to Canobie for the first time on Sunday for Screemfest...despite the fact I live in CT. So I probably should have gotten around to it sooner lol
Wild Thing would need a complete rework of the final brakes if they wanted to run trimless full time lol, it often hits it way too fast and causes sparks/sensor issues
I wish Valleyfair could, but look at videos when that one runs trimless. It sparks. I've heard the park views it as a safety issue. I think the best they could do on that one (minus reworking the brakes) is to add a trim at the last hill so it can stop in time on the final brakes.
Oh man, rode Mamba for the first time this July and LOVED IT. I enjoyed it way better than Magnum, which is the only ride that I've ridden that's comparable to Mamba. Riding it in the back was my favorite, you get literally YANKED down the first drop. Such a fun ride!
This makes me really happy cuz for years now the only park has been running steel force largely trimless and I don't mean like there's no dreams. I just mean like they don't hit hard not like mamba and wild thing used to or do, and it really made the ride. Amazing for that second half. Nothing but floating and I'm so happy they decided to do it with another
For years, this was my # 4 in the park. Now, it's a clear top 2. I love row 3 the best. Magnum had 2 airtime moments that seemed slightly stronger in row 3, but Mamba is far more comfortable and enjoyable. Last night, after getting a ride, I went back and almost was on the train that had to get evacd off the top of the lift hill. One side note: the park always has the waterpark entry open, even during Haunt. The waterpark is closed, but you can just take the path that drops you right in front of Mamba, allowing plenty of time for rides before crowds get there from the main entrance. I also think it's a shorter walk, and you never have a bad traffic jam when leaving the parking lot, which always happens in the main lot on Haunt nights.
@@CanobieCoaster That is the main parking lot for the waterpark, accessed via Parvin Rd south of the main entrance. Today, that entry wasn't open during the 11-5 hours, so it must be only open for the Haunt timeframe.
yeah that was saturday. I actually watched mamba from the waffle house across the road friday night and didn't see it cycle once and was getting nervous lol. Zambezi was also having lots of issues, I almost missed it. @@OklahomaCoasterFan
I rode wild thing just last week and unfortunately we got stuck at the top of the lift hill but the breaks of the return were almost not there. I done know if this was just the ride I happened to be on but it was amazing I've never experienced a Morgan like that and it was awesome!!
@@CanobieCoaster I began to theorize that exact thing when I noticed they would only allow one train on the course at a time because it should be a three-block zone coaster
I know i don't have the huge sizeable coaster count 76, and with it being my old home park, there's nostalgia as it's my most ridden coaster, so with the changes, it's in my top ten which puts it in the top 13% of coasters which I think is a good way to look at it, even without the bias.
Wild thing (except its real name should be take out the W and I and replace them with a single M) hasn't yet figured out that when you turn the midcourse on it turns people off
I really agree and it’s way better than steel force and wild thing to me but what are your thoughts, is it better than steel force and wild thing also great video
I'm still not sure if I'll put it over Steel Force. Steel Force's operations had some critical improvements this year over last year's. I still find Dorney Park very visitable, it's not too far of a drive from Ocean City. I'm heading to WoF next year, and although I'm sure Mamba will be awesome, I'm not sure it's going to be a priority for me. I just don't know if in future years it'll be worth traveling all the way to Kansas City for what is effectively a beefed up Steel Force...
I'm planning on taking a trip to Worlds of Fun for the first time in 2024 maybe in April. I'm excited that everyone is talking about how mamba is running great without the trim brakes. But I'm really not to excited to ride it even after all of the hype and you know why. I finally rode My first Morgan coaster Steel Eel last year at SeaWorld San Antonio and I was not impressed about the way the coaster slams you down in you seat after each valley of the hills. It hurts like he'll and I can literally say that B & M coasters are way much better than the Morgan's. I also didn't like steel Eels first drop how it have that big crest before the real drop even began which to me takes away the feel of the negative g's. Which B&M hypers don't crest their coaster the same way which it's more fun. Can anybody tell me if I'm gonna get the same experience on Mamba as I did on steel eel or will it be like my Nitro at Sixflags great adventure, full of good airtime and not slamming you down in the seat after each drop Tell me please someone tell me.
Hopefully the fact that the airtime is mostly floater and not hitting extremes means it won’t create too much extra wear and tear so they keep the trim off, having Mamba be a great ride as opposed to a deeply disappointing one is huge for the park
I'm glad with how it's running.
As a fan of Morgan hypers, this is intriguing to me. I wonder if this is how Mamba was designed to run in the first place?
Mamba is also my favorite at the park, row 3 is my favorite seat. I also got to ride at night when the fireworks were going off so that was pretty cool too.
I liked the front and back cars fairly evenly.
This thing absolutely blew me away when I visited last summer. It rides like a modern magnum, and on the day I visited temps were soaring. Every hill gave borderline violent ejector and the midcourse still barely touched the train. It’s a top 25 coaster for me.
It is so much better now.
This was running so good this summer and it was my husbands favorite coaster on our month long mid west coaster trip
Nice!
I couldn't believe this was the same coaster I rode in 2020! Definitely one of the best glow-ups a coaster has had in recent memory.
Definitely!
Mamba is now running like it did when it first opened. Back then, I remember the ejector airtime on those bunny hills being insane. So, it was a huge disappointment when they overdid it with the midcourse brakes, it killed all of the fun.
When I got a first ride after they changed the control system I was stunned; in disbelief at how much I thoroughly enjoyed it and how giddy it made me.
The floater off the lift hill and then the camel back is exquisite. Your butt is out of the seat and you effectively free fall until the train smacks down on the track in the valleys. I actually have to brace for it since it can be jarring.
Whereas the midcourse trim had become a buzzkill, now you go flying when it drops into the bunny hills. You’re in air more than you’re seated and absolutely haul into the final brake run where you get one last pop of airtime in the front.
One of Mamba’s strengths is the length of its trains. Yeah, it cranks out more passengers per hour. However, the beauty of its length is that the front and back rows offer different ride experiences - floater vs ejector. It’s almost like riding two different coasters.
(Row 3 is my go-to.)
Mamba has gone from “I might as well ride since I’m here and that camel back is kind of cool” to being an absolute must ride with each visit.
I know many in the coaster community have been underwhelmed by the new Zambezi, but I have grown to absolutely love it. With Mamba, Zambezi, and Prowler, Worlds of Fun has one of the most underrated coaster lineups out there.
Those three sure got me back to the park more times than any year in the past.
Zambezi is a solid ride, as long as you go in not expecting airtime. The pacing and lats are great. Mamba is now my favorite in the park with how it runs.
I lucked out just happening to make my first trip to WOF last June. i had heard the trim was turned off but I was not prepared for how awesome that ride was. I get bored sometimes with B&M hypers and their redudnancy (why Goliath is my favorite). I flew in to KC on a Saturday and waited 3 hours since it was on one train, but it was worth it. Went back the next morning for rope drop and got 4 walk on rides before heading to Branson. I went to WOF really just to check it off my list but Mamba has made me want to come back. Also thanks for answering my question about filming at Lagoon. Had an awesome time it's such a great park.
The trim off made a huge difference.
Funny thing is, nagashima spaland executives actually visited this park to ride mamba and then basically said, yep we need this but just make it the longest coaster in the world, and then make it 318 feet high.
Interesting!
This year was my first time I visited WoF and Mamba was indeed, spectacular.
Yeah, it blew Steel Force and Steel Eel(the only Morgan's I've ridden) away. Although I still love Steel Eel for its "unique" air time.
Personally, I thought the magic seat was in row 3 like Magnum(but I really dislike Magnum
and love this coaster)...
They had a sprinkler running on the bottom of the helix and we were coming in so hot they were watering down the brake run too.
BTW, going to Canobie for the first time on Sunday for Screemfest...despite the fact I live in CT. So I probably should have gotten around to it sooner lol
I prefer Mamba to Magnum since it's more comfortable. Enjoy Canobie!
Valleyfair.... you know what to do.
Wild Thing would need a complete rework of the final brakes if they wanted to run trimless full time lol, it often hits it way too fast and causes sparks/sensor issues
I wish Valleyfair could, but look at videos when that one runs trimless. It sparks. I've heard the park views it as a safety issue. I think the best they could do on that one (minus reworking the brakes) is to add a trim at the last hill so it can stop in time on the final brakes.
With the trims off it’s amazing. I flew through those last bunny hills last time I rode
The return run is amazing now.
Oh man, rode Mamba for the first time this July and LOVED IT. I enjoyed it way better than Magnum, which is the only ride that I've ridden that's comparable to Mamba. Riding it in the back was my favorite, you get literally YANKED down the first drop. Such a fun ride!
Mamba is so much better now.
This makes me really happy cuz for years now the only park has been running steel force largely trimless and I don't mean like there's no dreams. I just mean like they don't hit hard not like mamba and wild thing used to or do, and it really made the ride. Amazing for that second half. Nothing but floating and I'm so happy they decided to do it with another
I'm glad Worlds of Fun made this change.
For years, this was my # 4 in the park. Now, it's a clear top 2. I love row 3 the best. Magnum had 2 airtime moments that seemed slightly stronger in row 3, but Mamba is far more comfortable and enjoyable.
Last night, after getting a ride, I went back and almost was on the train that had to get evacd off the top of the lift hill.
One side note: the park always has the waterpark entry open, even during Haunt. The waterpark is closed, but you can just take the path that drops you right in front of Mamba, allowing plenty of time for rides before crowds get there from the main entrance. I also think it's a shorter walk, and you never have a bad traffic jam when leaving the parking lot, which always happens in the main lot on Haunt nights.
That's a good tip about getting to Mamba quickly! Is the lot next to the return run the park's overflow lot?
@@CanobieCoaster That is the main parking lot for the waterpark, accessed via Parvin Rd south of the main entrance. Today, that entry wasn't open during the 11-5 hours, so it must be only open for the Haunt timeframe.
Hah. I got stuck on the the top of the lift hill for like 10 minutes yesterday. No evac tho.
@@bagofclothes7360 Was that on Saturday? The one I saw was Friday. They were having so many issues with Mamba this weekend.
yeah that was saturday. I actually watched mamba from the waffle house across the road friday night and didn't see it cycle once and was getting nervous lol. Zambezi was also having lots of issues, I almost missed it. @@OklahomaCoasterFan
Love worlds of fun!
It's a fun park.
I rode wild thing just last week and unfortunately we got stuck at the top of the lift hill but the breaks of the return were almost not there. I done know if this was just the ride I happened to be on but it was amazing I've never experienced a Morgan like that and it was awesome!!
It now runs trimless pretty much.
@@CanobieCoaster I began to theorize that exact thing when I noticed they would only allow one train on the course at a time because it should be a three-block zone coaster
"... improving over 200 spots"
Damn!
It improved dramatically.
Seriously - the difference in ride experience is that drastic.
I absolutely love magnum xl200, this just looks like that again, but smoother.
My girlfriend literally said that Mamba is everything she wishes Magnum was. I personally love Magnum, but I get why people dislike the pain.
Definitely more comfortable.
I know i don't have the huge sizeable coaster count 76, and with it being my old home park, there's nostalgia as it's my most ridden coaster, so with the changes, it's in my top ten which puts it in the top 13% of coasters which I think is a good way to look at it, even without the bias.
Nice!
This is one of fhe best coasters now. Steel force needs this treatment
Steel Force runs well, but I'd welcome even less braking.
So mad my WoF trip fell thru this year, maybe next year I can finally get out to KC
Hopefully!
Like Magnum, rows 3 and 18 are the magic rows.
I prefer the front over row 3.
@@CanobieCoaster Row 3 probably has a very similar ride experience, just with a little shorter wait.
Would you rank this above Steel Force at Dorney?
With how it currently runs, yes.
I think I would too, just barely.
I still think I would prefer Magnum XL-200 to Mamba, hot take but it's my #1 even over Steel Vengeance
Do you think these are better then the weakest B&M hypers? (Something like Appolo's chariot)
Mamba trimless sure is.
@@CanobieCoaster can it stack up to the upper tier ones, like mako, shambhala,behemoth
Wild thing (except its real name should be take out the W and I and replace them with a single M) hasn't yet figured out that when you turn the midcourse on it turns people off
That used to be the name of a kiddie coaster there.
@@CanobieCoaster not mild thing, MID thing
the new system made it impossible to run 3 trains
Good to know, thanks.
Will this ever happen on wild thing at valley fair?
I don't believe it will given the braking issues that one has had in the past. There's footage of it sparking during an ACE event.
Ahhh... Redemption
Definitely.
So this were steel dragon 2000 came from
A lot of Morgan hypers had similar layouts.
Where is mamba in your rankings, and is it better than prowler?
Roughly a top 50 steel coaster, and yes I prefer it to Prowler.
Its Magnum except its smooth. Amazing ride, it's definitely in my top 30 and may make it into my top 10
I love how it runs now.
I like wild thing mamba it's the same as wild thing steel force same thing as the other 2
Mamba runs better than both now.
I really agree and it’s way better than steel force and wild thing to me but what are your thoughts, is it better than steel force and wild thing also great video
It is better than Steel Force and especially Wild Thing now.
I'm still not sure if I'll put it over Steel Force. Steel Force's operations had some critical improvements this year over last year's. I still find Dorney Park very visitable, it's not too far of a drive from Ocean City. I'm heading to WoF next year, and although I'm sure Mamba will be awesome, I'm not sure it's going to be a priority for me. I just don't know if in future years it'll be worth traveling all the way to Kansas City for what is effectively a beefed up Steel Force...
I like Dorney a lot. It's just overshadowed by the parks nearby.
Mamba blows Steel Force away. The bunny hills on Steel Force just give floater. Mambas bunny hills give borderline ejector
I still prefer prowler but mamba is only 4 spots behind it on my overall list
I prefer Mamba as well now.
I'm planning on taking a trip to Worlds of Fun for the first time in 2024 maybe in April. I'm excited that everyone is talking about how mamba is running great without the trim brakes. But I'm really not to excited to ride it even after all of the hype and you know why. I finally rode My first Morgan coaster Steel Eel last year at SeaWorld San Antonio and I was not impressed about the way the coaster slams you down in you seat after each valley of the hills. It hurts like he'll and I can literally say that B & M coasters are way much better than the Morgan's. I also didn't like steel Eels first drop how it have that big crest before the real drop even began which to me takes away the feel of the negative g's. Which B&M hypers don't crest their coaster the same way which it's more fun. Can anybody tell me if I'm gonna get the same experience on Mamba as I did on steel eel or will it be like my Nitro at Sixflags great adventure, full of good airtime and not slamming you down in the seat after each drop
Tell me please someone tell me.
Mamba doesn't hurt like Steel Eel when you land.
This POV shows how the ride was running last year, nearly identical to how it runs now. th-cam.com/video/_FoHI6JkBcE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0UKjOT6A2RM_wOPS
Thanks for sharing.
I thought the steelhawk was the tallest ride at worlds of fun
It is. Mamba is the tallest coaster.
Oh thank you
Still not as good as the purple Kennywood airtime machine
I agree.
Different
Much improved.