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I was just about to comment like Michael did: the Voyager I according to you is traveling at a speed of 62,6K km/h and Parker Solar recently broke the record by going 635K km/h. Thats 10 times as fast!
@@41cent Because our species is far too young and we lack advanced technology to make traveling such distances feel close. Consider that ~600 years ago it took 4-6 weeks to cross the Atlantic ocean by boat, and we now do it regularly in a half of a day.
Always hoped I'd live long enough to see a probe reach the Centauri system. But it's looking impossible, baring some major changes to our understanding of physics. It's hard for our brains to wrack the incredible distances and velocities required. Light speed being both unimaginably fast and, in the grand scheme of things, pretty slow compared to our time frames and the vastness of the universe. Always a humbling thing to think about.
Fastest probe reached 586 000 km/h, thats 5.1 billion /year, which is 7800 years to reach Centauri. Unless we multiply that speed by at least 15 I dont think a mission can be conceivable due to material degradation over time I doubt all the parts would continue working fine for 500 years...
You don’t need to go light speed tho. Just fast enough to get a significant amount of time dilation. You can travel the entire universe in less than a lifetime without going light speed
@@SuperAloeFresh are you sure lmfao you'd need to be powered by like a star to achieve such a speed as not only a physical object but an object weighing 70 kg
Not only are they really far away, they're also not stationary. Any error in calculating your trajectory and you're far off and since you cannot simply break, fly by and off into the dark void you go, with no hope of ever making it back.
To reach alpha centauri proxima in 100 years or less you would need to travel about 1,000x the relative velocity of acp to the sun. Calculating where it will be in 100 years is actually the easiest part of the math.
Pluto: - Challenging due to the need for energy and propulsion. - Managed within our solar system. - New Horizons mission took about 9.5 years to reach Pluto with a Jupiter gravity assist. Proxima Centauri: - Exceptionally challenging due to the vast interstellar distance. - Part of a different star system, over 4 light-years away. - Requires technology to travel at a significant fraction of the speed of light, which is currently beyond our capabilities.
@@Nanatsaya77 Hey, I hear you, but it's not just about wanting to do it. The tech part is a big challenge, and the amount of resources needed is off the charts. Plus, this isn't a one-country job it would require global cooperation on a scale we've never seen. So, it's a huge tech and resource challenge, not just about having the will.
Big rocket to get it started, ion engine/ ram jet to keep it accelerating. There’s an equation- Tsolkovsky? Need a decent amount of mass as fuel but you could do 4.25 light years in 20 earth years. If you really wanted. Slowing down is tricky tho
Interesting title. Going to Pluto and going to Proxima Centauri? Walking from Houston to Dallas and walking from Argentina to Alaska, swimming the Bering Strait, and then walking to South Africa? I really think that the term "habitable zone" be redefined to exclude tide-locked planets and planets exposed to severe solar flares.
Agreed, like I get the scientific aspect of planets that are in the Goldie lochs zone of their parent star, but when we talk about habitable zones and planets, it should be exclusively for planets that can harbor life.
@patrick We don’t even know what life is. Maybe we are an absurd anomaly of a planet? Maybe life on tidally locked planets is a cake walk and we are the weirdo. We have no context. We assume context on one example.
The habitable zone refers to the range of distance from/around a star where, among other things, water is liquid. It has nothing to do with the planets around the star, as even stars with no planets technically have a habitable zone.
@@bethanygee6939 Liquid water requires a planet (or moon) to be on, and also more than just a particular region about the star. If a water region is routinely attacked by intense solar flares, is on a tide-locked planet, or has other hostilities, the water won't last. The term "habitable" implies life-friendly, and that's how the term has been used in searches for planets in the "habitable zone". I really hope that you don't view Europa as in the "habitable zone" of Jupiter.
@@NYPATRIOTBX There are moons in our distant solar system that could possibly harbor life, but I definitely wouldn't call them habitable. Habitable for humans is a different thing. We are so fragile, and need the perfect conditions.
The mathematics that must go into planning an interstellar trip must be crazy. I can't even imagine the difficulty of trying to figure out where a star is going to be in 50-100 years, with enough accuracy that would make a mission to the star possible.
@@scottbullock3045 thats partitally true but insignificant. Ill tell u what i read. NASA doesnt take debri into account for any of thier missions to jupiter, pluto, etc. Its because space is extremely vast and the odds of hitting something is nearly incalculable so they dont even bother.
There is a very small difference between going to Pluto and Centauri system.. its called freaking LIGHTYEARS. Compared to the Centauri, Pluto is next door, we can practically walk to Pluto but Centauri is a story for another century.
It would be like the Count of Monte Cristo receiving an entire prequel about the Chateau d'If starring the monk as a young man. You could call it Les Miserables. I believe Edmond Dantes spent around 10 or 12 years in prison and we assume around another 32 years for the monk maybe. That's 44. Now if each year of prison were measured in heartbeat seconds each lasting one kilometer of thought long, And one were to add on for fun 13 years in Azkaban for Sirius Black I think that would equal 57 billion kilometers. Less than 100 billion but let's be generous and round to 60. 2/3 * 100 billion km. You would need *three* French Gothic revolution prison operas to only get less than 1 trillion km out. 60 SU. (Saturn Units) I think....you might be getting to the Kuiper Belt on that. I don't know about the Oort Cloud. I don't know if 10bn km is a lightyear. I know that Edmond Dantes was more emo than Darth Vader when he got out.
What if we combine solar sail or with ion engine. after reaching outer area of solar system. the sail will detach & ion engine will keep psuhing for more speed?
We've greatly stagnated astronautical advancement as a result of pretty much halting space exploration after the space race, until very recently. It's going to take awhile, it's not like putting people on the moon is an easily achievable thing in this day and age.
It is infinitely easier to get to Pluto than to get to Proxima Centauri or it’s big brothers, Alpha Centauri A and B. If the rumors of warp drive are true, then maybe we will see images in our lifetimes.
Maybe we can also discover if there is a brown dwarf or even a small black hole just beyond the Kuiper Belt in the far outer Solar System. Scientists are in agreement that something at least the size of Neptune or Uranus is out there. We just can’t see it. It’s not a red dwarf because then it would be visible.
No because there is no economic reason. Why spend trillions on a project that most will never see accomplished for Proxima Centauri. If we invent FLT travel or can figure out a way to mine materials from asteroids cheaply, trust we will move all our arguments and wars to space. 😂
Oh yeah and proxima b is probably a radiation autoclaved cinder due to the star vomiting stellar material at it fairly regularly. So where do you get that it might have "living beings" or be a possible colony?
You are correct. This video is full of convenient half-truths, oversimplifications, and outright inaccuracies. I thumbs-downed during the Proxima Centauri part and moved on.
We are always constantly looking for habitable zones of stars, which is probably looking in the wrong places for life. For example we are carbon based lifeforms, but there could be silicone based lifeforms which can withstand much hotter temperatures then carbon. Here on earth they even created silicone based cells. Life on other planets for all we know could be sentient based crystals or mushrooms. In the movies the aliens always look like us but in reality they are probably so different we couldn't fathom it.
That's what pisses me off, our government has no problem cutting NASA and space exploration budgets, but no problem increasing budgets for unwinnable wars or support other countries wars
Going to space is expensive, the only reason we did it is because of the Cold War. There is no economic benefit yet to go there. Once we figure out how to mine the moon and asteroids and ship them back to earth at cheap prices see how fast that government check is sent to NASA. At least in wars you can accomplish something economically by selling weapons, taking over territory and establishing industry etc. it’s disgusting but thats just the reality.
@@Chris-kq9lb in the way it might be a waste but in societies that are pretty much oppressive to women it could be useful. But I don’t think that Pakistan’s priority right now. The money was probably a cover for something else.
Defunding NASA is the best thing government can do. All those intelligent human and capital resources are being tied up in a slow and pathetically moving government institution. Look at that SpaceX did in 15+ years.
The video showed a chart depicting the distance the farthest man-made object has gone (voyager 1) with how far away Proxima Centauri is. But, it used a logarithmic scale, making Proxima Centauri appear way closer. The way I understand that distance is that the fastest man made object is actually the Parker Solar Probe. It got its speed by falling towards the sun (as its mission is to observe the sun). Even at its peak falling speed, it would take 11,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri. Even at the speed of light, which is irrational to consider, I don't see humans agreeing to go on the 4+ year trip to get there. Truth is, we need hyperspace to travel to the even the closest star.
If you were to travel at close to the speed of light the trip would seem way shorter for the people on board like maybe a few weeks to months depends on how close to the speed of light you would be traveling.
@@vsync Yeah, there's a new company with a cruise ship booking reservations for a 3.5 year cruise around the world. Sounds like hell to me, but there are people that are excited to pay for it. Of course, there would be no cruise 'destinations' or day trips in interstellar space. But there are plenty of people who wouldn't care about that.
With today's tech... We would be sending hundreds and generations to die in space as earthlings who would never see earth. Kinda think thats morally messed up. Totally agree that tech has to improve to make this journey before it's even considered.
How about A) slowing down at the destination to do more than a slingshot at 20% light speed, lasting hours in the system and minutes near the planets. B) manuevering to get anywhere near the exoplanets, ie. moon distance, not AU distance to see more than a blurred image. c) how to get all the data back - transmitter and its powersource vs weight limit of the probe. New Horizons took months to upload all the data at a few kilobits per second and that was from a fraction of the distance. d) material of the light sail, so it does not evaporate the instant it is hit by a terawatt laser.
The animations really give your nice videos the needed impact. It brings the wonders of space to life. Thanks for this! I saw New Horizons launch livestream and now its left the Solar System. Fantastic little machine like the Voyagers and Pioneers. Long after we have gone these probes will silently cruise the Universe. Its an amazing thought. Even after Earth is swallowed by Red Giant sun in 5 billion years New Horizons will still be tootling along (assuming its not struck by something).
Best option would to somehow time a comet and attach to it on its way out of the galaxy. Question is, how to we catch up to it? Is it possible to time it
@@_moritzperez_ 110 years isn’t even close. It’s closer to 10,000. Only way around this atm is to use a massive laser here on earth to propel a bunch of tiny probes with large light sails. That could get us to 20% the speed of light, taking “just” 20 yrs. We haven’t even started a process to build one.
There is life but intelligent life in my opinion based on all the information I have absorbed is very very rare. Look at what it took for us humans to evolve, if that asteroid had missed the earth 65 million years ago who knows if intelligence would ever evolve up to this point.
In the center of the galaxy some stars are only light hours away from each other. It would be far easier to become an interstellar civilization in that region
@@Mfields4517 The theory out there is that it would be hard for civilizations or even life to start or survive being that close to that many stars. The radiation would be intense. But we will never know
@@Mfields4517 some may be that close, but that’d be a binary star system. Most single star systems are still pretty far apart for a species to travel between, and definitely more than a few light hours
Micro-satellites launched from the moon, using highly specific centrifugal force or railgun machines aimed near Alpha Centurai system to reach 1/10 the speed of light. They would also be released yearly, 10-100 a year, to reduce variables, allow certainty of success, and a radio way backchannel between the micro-sattelites to ensure the quality of imagery in about 60 years.
New horizons took nine or ten years to get to pluto due to distance. Proxima centauri is 4.2 light years away and a light year is 6 trillion or so miles. In other words even the Parker solar probe ie the fastest thing humans have ever produced would still take tens of thousands of years to get to proxima. And the nuclear power used on the voyager probes uses plutonium 238 which decays at a known rate and nasa absolutely knew how long the thermoelectric generators on those craft would last and they're why we still communicate with them today. Also the new horizons power source is basically the same as used on the voyagers and will continue to make electricity for decades
Dwarf planets were made because astronomers expected many bodies larger than Pluto to be discovered after Eris which was briefly the 10th planet. This did not happen. While many "dwarf planets" have been discovered in the Kuiper Belt none even half the size of Eris and Pluto have been discovered.
Traveling to Proxima Centauri with any conventional propulsion system is out of the question. Better option would be to somehow hijack an alien starship.
herrr cause we don't have the tech to travel faster than the speed of light or to warp space don't have the tech for shields which you most certainly need don't have the tech to protect the astronauts from being bombarded with radiation constantly and can't build ships durable enough or big enough.
I can’t even get a bus to my nearest town, let alone get to these two celestial bodies. Suppose we always consider using public transport to get there.
Even if the robot probe does get to Proxima Centuri how would it transmit back what it has seen. Its transmission system would just be too weak to transmit anything back.
The answer is just: "they're REALLY FAR AWAY" and the solar system diagrams and models in your school growing up weren't to scale... or the inner planets orbits would take up the whole classroom, with pluto a pebble 5 doors down the hallway.
We fly metal objects in air, built by metals found in the ground, using fuel based on liquids and gases. Explain that to a human 10,000 years ago. Now go forward 10,000 years and understand whatever we are then. You know nothing, a fraction of nothing. I do too… and there’s nothing wrong with that. In 10k years: “Getting to Pluto? You mean step outside?” Me: “But it’s so far!” Them: “Is your foot far from your toe?”
@@nwj03a come on now, what are the odds a species with the means to destroy itself and a history of nearly constant warfare going to last even at 10th of that? We are lucky to have made it 80 years. 10k, well luck. Has to run out sometime.
The further we get, the less likely it is just chance. Maybe we are the exception to a cruel reality (alone), or the butt of a bad joke (very not alone), maybe we are first (odd, but we are stupid relative to time). I find hope in that at least some of us ask. When we stop asking the why/who/what/where/when, then I’ll lose hope.
Time would be irrelevant if we just focused our efforts on suspending our perception of time during the travel to these far places. Even if we figured out how to travel at light speed everything's still too far.
Sounds like that was awfully expensive just for a Pluto fly by mission they need to work on a way for these probes to slow down enough to where they can stop linger and actually study the target?
Why Proxima Centauri will not pull, it up close, after the craft manages to travel, may be 70% of the distance, due to gravity? I guess, then the travel time will get reduced, suitably.
Another galaxy is unachievable for millions of years. Proxima centauri is the closest star which is in our galaxy. I'd say in the next thousand years we will be able to get there. Also pretty sure they can see the planet with the James Webb telescope.
It's very interested about New Horizon mission to Pluto on July 14, 2015 as it was successfully accomplished by NASA. Otherwise NASA and ESA in our international cooperation should develop these greatly improvements of our advanced technological spacecrafts and the latest & newest interplanetary human-crewed spaceships in our futuristic missions in our goals to reach on Proxima Centauri when we have our long-term plans on our future missions for Proxima Centauri as the Second Earth for future humankind for geneations and our humanity in space and planetary explorations. Our dream will become real in oue reality.
Having watched some of these videos,this looks more and more like a marketing campaign for merchandise like t-shirts and coffee mugs as opposed to science.
There's also the little problem that Earth is probably the only planet in the universe where human beings would be able to live comfortably on the surface. Star Trek always has the people walking around on planets breathing the air. If you went back in time on Earth to the Dinosaurs, you'd suffocate to death after a half hour. And that's the planet our mammal lungs evolved on. If you did find "Earth Almost Exact" planets with the right composition of atmospheric gasses, pressure, gravity, magnetic field, flowering plants that don't eat you. They will be extremely rare and probably not easy to find. Or travel too.
If you could go back to the time of the dinosaurs, you would probably have to time warp in space. You would probably turned into a fossil by the asteroid's aftermath trying to get there on earth. Going to, or coming from that era.
16:00....1/4 impulse power...😅....better start working on that matter/anti matter drive.... 17:29...that was the original propulsion concept for Discovery in Authur C Clarks/Stanley Kubricks 2001....
Funding for building & preparing the technologies & consumables for a very long-term spaceflight aside, Ion &/or a nuclear-powered fusion-thrust rocket seem to be the only way, doing a continuous forward thrust for at least a couple dozen years or more, if not for a number of centuries, and then at a point later, a continuous reverse thrust to slow down when coming into range for the star system of Proxima Centauri & then orbital insertion of a planet of there. Even an AI-manned system would be difficult to keep going for such a long time frame past the measly dozens of years non-stop, let alone a manned spacecraft, for people likely to never see their loved ones/families ever again, or even Earth itself. The problems of interpersonal interactivity, the stress of being cooped up in a small space for dozens of years non-stop, cultural issues for those onboard from different countries, boredom, limited food, water, air,.. etc, etc, etc.. Perhaps only if we become able to do long-term suspended animation of people, to reduce all of the constant day-to-day issues of space travel, or a super-large type of spacecraft, an ONeill-cylinder type ship with many livable zones as a generational ship, with people of all types of career professions to inhabit it,... Who knows..
I’m packing my suitcase right now, but I have a few questions and must haves. There has to be salsa and it Hass to be good. I’m gonna need oranges and strawberries probably blueberries have to be able to be grown there. Let’s say it takes 50 years what sports am I gonna start there will football still be relevant to soccer? Baseball, Tennis? Can I build something like Las Vegas there and so I can gamble on the satellites winning the very first football season and then I become rich on alpha Centauri?
Same. I hope that in my lifetime we at least get visitors that managed to figure it out. That would be the next best thing. I just want to know what's going on out there.
Pluto is "easy" (We have even seen it close up.) But the nearest star is "impossible"...utterly beyond any tech we have now or for many centuries into the future. Voyager 1 will be at the same distance (but not position) from earth in 77,000 years (Seventy Seven Thousand Years.) Voyager 1 recedes from Earth 1000 more kilometres every single minute. That's fast.
These days it has become a trend on youtube to make stupid video and ask questions whose answers are very obvious. They have no content.. 2/3 they just spend time in telling about history and other word nonsense.
We should already be using nuclear powered ships to explore our solar system. It's a natural process of the universe but unfortunately the technology was used for destruction. Now every greeny jumps up and down when it mentioned for anything. Other technologies like fusion and harnessing solar efficiently we just aren't developed enough to be practical. Exploration of our solar system would be so much easier if we used the technology we already have
Because of insane distances. Especially Alpha Proxima. With that one, you won't live long enough. Neither would your children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and so it goes.
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Isn't the Parker Solar probe the fastest human created object? 13:15
I was just about to comment like Michael did: the Voyager I according to you is traveling at a speed of 62,6K km/h and Parker Solar recently broke the record by going 635K km/h. Thats 10 times as fast!
Great video!
Short answer: They're far away.
But why are they far away ?
@@41cent Because our species is far too young and we lack advanced technology to make traveling such distances feel close. Consider that ~600 years ago it took 4-6 weeks to cross the Atlantic ocean by boat, and we now do it regularly in a half of a day.
Far away is relative. Proxima Centauri is not nearly as far away as Notproxima Centauri.
@@41cent Cause they're way over there.
I think you're oversimplifying. A better answer to this complex topic would be "they are really, really, far away"
Always hoped I'd live long enough to see a probe reach the Centauri system. But it's looking impossible, baring some major changes to our understanding of physics.
It's hard for our brains to wrack the incredible distances and velocities required. Light speed being both unimaginably fast and, in the grand scheme of things, pretty slow compared to our time frames and the vastness of the universe. Always a humbling thing to think about.
I think humanity could do it. But wont. I believe its more to do with political, social, and economic issues.
Fastest probe reached 586 000 km/h, thats 5.1 billion /year, which is 7800 years to reach Centauri.
Unless we multiply that speed by at least 15 I dont think a mission can be conceivable due to material degradation over time I doubt all the parts would continue working fine for 500 years...
You don’t need to go light speed tho. Just fast enough to get a significant amount of time dilation. You can travel the entire universe in less than a lifetime without going light speed
@@SuperAloeFresh are you sure lmfao you'd need to be powered by like a star to achieve such a speed as not only a physical object but an object weighing 70 kg
James Webb telescope ca photograph Proxima but for some reason it’s not a priority
Pluto is easy compared to the next star.
Not only are they really far away, they're also not stationary. Any error in calculating your trajectory and you're far off and since you cannot simply break, fly by and off into the dark void you go, with no hope of ever making it back.
Yep. That's why we have scientists and super computers that are really good at math. A tiny miscalculation though could mean billions of miles.
To reach alpha centauri proxima in 100 years or less you would need to travel about 1,000x the relative velocity of acp to the sun. Calculating where it will be in 100 years is actually the easiest part of the math.
Pluto:
- Challenging due to the need for energy and propulsion.
- Managed within our solar system.
- New Horizons mission took about 9.5 years to reach Pluto with a Jupiter gravity assist.
Proxima Centauri:
- Exceptionally challenging due to the vast interstellar distance.
- Part of a different star system, over 4 light-years away.
- Requires technology to travel at a significant fraction of the speed of light, which is currently beyond our capabilities.
I'd argue we have the tech,not the will though
@@Nanatsaya77 Hey, I hear you, but it's not just about wanting to do it. The tech part is a big challenge, and the amount of resources needed is off the charts. Plus, this isn't a one-country job it would require global cooperation on a scale we've never seen. So, it's a huge tech and resource challenge, not just about having the will.
Big rocket to get it started, ion engine/ ram jet to keep it accelerating.
There’s an equation- Tsolkovsky? Need a decent amount of mass as fuel but you could do 4.25 light years in 20 earth years.
If you really wanted.
Slowing down is tricky tho
Interesting title. Going to Pluto and going to Proxima Centauri? Walking from Houston to Dallas and walking from Argentina to Alaska, swimming the Bering Strait, and then walking to South Africa?
I really think that the term "habitable zone" be redefined to exclude tide-locked planets and planets exposed to severe solar flares.
Agreed, like I get the scientific aspect of planets that are in the Goldie lochs zone of their parent star, but when we talk about habitable zones and planets, it should be exclusively for planets that can harbor life.
@patrick We don’t even know what life is. Maybe we are an absurd anomaly of a planet? Maybe life on tidally locked planets is a cake walk and we are the weirdo.
We have no context. We assume context on one example.
The habitable zone refers to the range of distance from/around a star where, among other things, water is liquid. It has nothing to do with the planets around the star, as even stars with no planets technically have a habitable zone.
@@bethanygee6939 Liquid water requires a planet (or moon) to be on, and also more than just a particular region about the star. If a water region is routinely attacked by intense solar flares, is on a tide-locked planet, or has other hostilities, the water won't last. The term "habitable" implies life-friendly, and that's how the term has been used in searches for planets in the "habitable zone".
I really hope that you don't view Europa as in the "habitable zone" of Jupiter.
@@NYPATRIOTBX There are moons in our distant solar system that could possibly harbor life, but I definitely wouldn't call them habitable. Habitable for humans is a different thing. We are so fragile, and need the perfect conditions.
The mathematics that must go into planning an interstellar trip must be crazy. I can't even imagine the difficulty of trying to figure out where a star is going to be in 50-100 years, with enough accuracy that would make a mission to the star possible.
They don’t move THAT much in that short of a time
for ai it can maybe/probably be super easy - combine this with super-computers; quantum computers that will hopefully come in the future
Computer simulations do all the math. You just have to hit the ENTER button
Btw, you didn't take into account all the interstellar debris in between. Space is not "empty" between the stars and planets after all.
@@scottbullock3045 thats partitally true but insignificant. Ill tell u what i read. NASA doesnt take debri into account for any of thier missions to jupiter, pluto, etc. Its because space is extremely vast and the odds of hitting something is nearly incalculable so they dont even bother.
There is a very small difference between going to Pluto and Centauri system.. its called freaking LIGHTYEARS. Compared to the Centauri, Pluto is next door, we can practically walk to Pluto but Centauri is a story for another century.
Just to highlight how large a number , a billion is, a million seconds is 11 days, a billion seconds is 32 years, now imagine billions of kilometres
It would be like the Count of Monte Cristo receiving an entire prequel about the Chateau d'If starring the monk as a young man.
You could call it Les Miserables.
I believe Edmond Dantes spent around 10 or 12 years in prison and we assume around another 32 years for the monk maybe.
That's 44. Now if each year of prison were measured in heartbeat seconds each lasting one kilometer of thought long,
And one were to add on for fun 13 years in Azkaban for Sirius Black
I think that would equal 57 billion kilometers.
Less than 100 billion but let's be generous and round to 60.
2/3 * 100 billion km.
You would need *three* French Gothic revolution prison operas to only get less than 1 trillion km out. 60 SU. (Saturn Units)
I think....you might be getting to the Kuiper Belt on that. I don't know about the Oort Cloud. I don't know if 10bn km is a lightyear.
I know that Edmond Dantes was more emo than Darth Vader when he got out.
When Voyager was launched, Pluto was closer than Neptune so communication was NOT a show-stopper.
What if we combine solar sail or with ion engine. after reaching outer area of solar system.
the sail will detach & ion engine will keep psuhing for more speed?
Get to Pluto and Alpha Centuri?
Pluto is like your next door neighbor and Alpha Centuri is at the frickin moon.
Pft, we conquered the moon over 50 years ago. Just think what the next century will bring for travel
We've greatly stagnated astronautical advancement as a result of pretty much halting space exploration after the space race, until very recently. It's going to take awhile, it's not like putting people on the moon is an easily achievable thing in this day and age.
And those two are practicaly just the closest naighbors.
Compared to Proxima Centauri, going to Pluto is as easy as a cross-country road trip to Disneyland in a Winnebago.
Use a Mario 3 whistle/flute!
We need that instant transmission
It is infinitely easier to get to Pluto than to get to Proxima Centauri or it’s big brothers, Alpha Centauri A and B. If the rumors of warp drive are true, then maybe we will see images in our lifetimes.
Maybe we can also discover if there is a brown dwarf or even a small black hole just beyond the Kuiper Belt in the far outer Solar System. Scientists are in agreement that something at least the size of Neptune or Uranus is out there. We just can’t see it. It’s not a red dwarf because then it would be visible.
Yes this is an odd comparison. 30 AU vs 250,000 AU.
Why Is It So Hard To Get To Pluto And Proxima Centauri?....... Because we are to busy bitching at and fighting each other.
No because there is no economic reason. Why spend trillions on a project that most will never see accomplished for Proxima Centauri. If we invent FLT travel or can figure out a way to mine materials from asteroids cheaply, trust we will move all our arguments and wars to space. 😂
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@@lombardo141 it wouldn't cost trillions
@@Mikhail-Tkachenko you are correct but I was referring to the feasibility of benefiting economically from space.
@@lombardo141 Yeah there's no benefit in exploring.
I think it's great that NASA resurrected The Grand Tour in 2016 with the help of Amazon. I can't wait to see Jeremy Clarkson launched at Pluto.
That’s a deep cut. Am surprised no one liked this. 😂
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Lets hope it doesn't get cancelled again🙏
And then people are surprised we haven’t found alien life yet.
Because there is none.
Very possible we never will.
You mean intelligent life ? There is definitely life out there, like bacteria and stuff. Intelligent life like us is probably very rare.
Mey be they found us. And we ar in a reservation. Zoo hypotises
@@bastiaanzoetaert9628 I doubt that.
Oh yeah and proxima b is probably a radiation autoclaved cinder due to the star vomiting stellar material at it fairly regularly. So where do you get that it might have "living beings" or be a possible colony?
You are correct. This video is full of convenient half-truths, oversimplifications, and outright inaccuracies. I thumbs-downed during the Proxima Centauri part and moved on.
We are always constantly looking for habitable zones of stars, which is probably looking in the wrong places for life. For example we are carbon based lifeforms, but there could be silicone based lifeforms which can withstand much hotter temperatures then carbon. Here on earth they even created silicone based cells. Life on other planets for all we know could be sentient based crystals or mushrooms. In the movies the aliens always look like us but in reality they are probably so different we couldn't fathom it.
That's what pisses me off, our government has no problem cutting NASA and space exploration budgets, but no problem increasing budgets for unwinnable wars or support other countries wars
Going to space is expensive, the only reason we did it is because of the Cold War. There is no economic benefit yet to go there. Once we figure out how to mine the moon and asteroids and ship them back to earth at cheap prices see how fast that government check is sent to NASA. At least in wars you can accomplish something economically by selling weapons, taking over territory and establishing industry etc. it’s disgusting but thats just the reality.
Science isn't important. We gotta get the bad guys so we can make the defense industry trillions
200 million to Pakistan for gender studies? What a waste
@@Chris-kq9lb in the way it might be a waste but in societies that are pretty much oppressive to women it could be useful. But I don’t think that Pakistan’s priority right now. The money was probably a cover for something else.
Defunding NASA is the best thing government can do. All those intelligent human and capital resources are being tied up in a slow and pathetically moving government institution. Look at that SpaceX did in 15+ years.
The video showed a chart depicting the distance the farthest man-made object has gone (voyager 1) with how far away Proxima Centauri is. But, it used a logarithmic scale, making Proxima Centauri appear way closer. The way I understand that distance is that the fastest man made object is actually the Parker Solar Probe. It got its speed by falling towards the sun (as its mission is to observe the sun). Even at its peak falling speed, it would take 11,000 years to reach Proxima Centauri. Even at the speed of light, which is irrational to consider, I don't see humans agreeing to go on the 4+ year trip to get there. Truth is, we need hyperspace to travel to the even the closest star.
If you were to travel at close to the speed of light the trip would seem way shorter for the people on board like maybe a few weeks to months depends on how close to the speed of light you would be traveling.
you seriously think no one would agree to even a modest 5-year journey?
Exactly. Explorers explore.
If given the chance
@@vsync Yeah, there's a new company with a cruise ship booking reservations for a 3.5 year cruise around the world. Sounds like hell to me, but there are people that are excited to pay for it.
Of course, there would be no cruise 'destinations' or day trips in interstellar space. But there are plenty of people who wouldn't care about that.
With today's tech... We would be sending hundreds and generations to die in space as earthlings who would never see earth. Kinda think thats morally messed up. Totally agree that tech has to improve to make this journey before it's even considered.
How about
A) slowing down at the destination to do more than a slingshot at 20% light speed, lasting hours in the system and minutes near the planets.
B) manuevering to get anywhere near the exoplanets, ie. moon distance, not AU distance to see more than a blurred image.
c) how to get all the data back - transmitter and its powersource vs weight limit of the probe. New Horizons took months to upload all the data at a few kilobits per second and that was from a fraction of the distance.
d) material of the light sail, so it does not evaporate the instant it is hit by a terawatt laser.
That all involves more mass, which means more force or less acceleration.
The animations really give your nice videos the needed impact. It brings the wonders of space to life. Thanks for this! I saw New Horizons launch livestream and now its left the Solar System. Fantastic little machine like the Voyagers and Pioneers. Long after we have gone these probes will silently cruise the Universe. Its an amazing thought. Even after Earth is swallowed by Red Giant sun in 5 billion years New Horizons will still be tootling along (assuming its not struck by something).
Best option would to somehow time a comet and attach to it on its way out of the galaxy. Question is, how to we catch up to it? Is it possible to time it
ya been to pluto last week not recommending it its just a frozen hell with no oxygen
Which comets do you know of that leave the galaxy?
The comets we observe orbit the Sun, they're just not traveling fast enough to escape its gravitational pull, let alone the galaxy itself.
6:29 Perihelion, not equinox
We made it to Pluto and it was worth it. Amazing little world.
Pluto will always be A Planet in my Book..
Surprised there was no mention of time dilation of relativity. How long will it take on earth for the probe to reach Alpha Centuri?
It's 110 years
@@_moritzperez_ 110 years isn’t even close. It’s closer to 10,000.
Only way around this atm is to use a massive laser here on earth to propel a bunch of tiny probes with large light sails. That could get us to 20% the speed of light, taking “just” 20 yrs. We haven’t even started a process to build one.
20yrs light sails at 15 speed of light
No time dilation here on Earth...
@@ChromaticFlare its not 10,000 years at light speed, come on dude, your just adding zeros onto big numbers at this point with no clue
what is the name of the track from 12:00? I can't find anything with Shazam or Google. Nice video 🔥👌🏽
The universe is huge. I wonder if theres two planets somewhere in reasonably close proximity that has life and communications between both.
There is life but intelligent life in my opinion based on all the information I have absorbed is very very rare. Look at what it took for us humans to evolve, if that asteroid had missed the earth 65 million years ago who knows if intelligence would ever evolve up to this point.
In the center of the galaxy some stars are only light hours away from each other. It would be far easier to become an interstellar civilization in that region
@@Mfields4517 The theory out there is that it would be hard for civilizations or even life to start or survive being that close to that many stars. The radiation would be intense. But we will never know
@@Mfields4517 some may be that close, but that’d be a binary star system. Most single star systems are still pretty far apart for a species to travel between, and definitely more than a few light hours
Yes there is. It’s over there next to the stuff you should see. It’s cool!!!
Micro-satellites launched from the moon, using highly specific centrifugal force or railgun machines aimed near Alpha Centurai system to reach 1/10 the speed of light. They would also be released yearly, 10-100 a year, to reduce variables, allow certainty of success, and a radio way backchannel between the micro-sattelites to ensure the quality of imagery in about 60 years.
Far Horizons was not a waste of time. Pluto is a fantastic dwarf planet.
“60 Celsius of acceleration” 19:00 *May want to do a caption amendment
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that noticed this.
Because first you have to get around Uranus😂
New horizons took nine or ten years to get to pluto due to distance. Proxima centauri is 4.2 light years away and a light year is 6 trillion or so miles. In other words even the Parker solar probe ie the fastest thing humans have ever produced would still take tens of thousands of years to get to proxima. And the nuclear power used on the voyager probes uses plutonium 238 which decays at a known rate and nasa absolutely knew how long the thermoelectric generators on those craft would last and they're why we still communicate with them today. Also the new horizons power source is basically the same as used on the voyagers and will continue to make electricity for decades
And that's just the nearest star, mind blowing
Great video and information !
60 Celsius of acceleration?
dwarf planets "don't count" as planets. i'd love to hear you try to explain that to a little person.
You mean Pluto, the overgrown comet?
@@robertt9342 you mean venus the morning star, correct?
They don’t count because he doesn’t understand if they count or not. If you have no proof they don’t matter then it’s easy to just say they don’t.
Dwarf planets were made because astronomers expected many bodies larger than Pluto to be discovered after Eris which was briefly the 10th planet. This did not happen. While many "dwarf planets" have been discovered in the Kuiper Belt none even half the size of Eris and Pluto have been discovered.
@@commodorezero I don't tell astronomers how to talk. I'd appreciate it if they didn't tell me how to talk. I find it offensive.
“Cost” is only an obstacle when war isn’t involved.
I gotchu bro
They're far
Sick video
OK how do you stop or even slow down at 10000km per second? when you reach Proxima
Good call! That was a big issue (among others) with the idea of pursuing project Orion to visit planets in the solar system much quicker.
reverse thrusters is how
14:36 did you mean 10^26?
Forget Pluto , We can’t even get back to the moon.
India just put a rover on the moon a month ago
@@Mikhail-TkachenkoI think they mean people
Artemis 2 & 3...
Traveling to Proxima Centauri with any conventional propulsion system is out of the question. Better option would be to somehow hijack an alien starship.
Because warp drives haven’t been invented yet.
19:00
>60 Celsius of acceleration
wtf does it even mean?
herrr cause we don't have the tech to travel faster than the speed of light or to warp space don't have the tech for shields which you most certainly need don't have the tech to protect the astronauts from being bombarded with radiation constantly and can't build ships durable enough or big enough.
I can’t even get a bus to my nearest town, let alone get to these two celestial bodies. Suppose we always consider using public transport to get there.
its cause you live on some hilbilly farm. all too many buses in every big city
Even if the robot probe does get to Proxima Centuri how would it transmit back what it has seen.
Its transmission system would just be too weak to transmit anything back.
Pluto is a level 35+ area, and we’re still only level 19
Edit: you also need dlc
What is dlc?
Any gamer knows it's a massive thrill to run through a zone they're massively underleveled for, just for the fun of it.
Because the deregulation of the Airlines scuttled what would have been United’s direct service to Pluto?
Great work, thanks for the video.
Issue is how do you stop
The answer is just: "they're REALLY FAR AWAY" and the solar system diagrams and models in your school growing up weren't to scale... or the inner planets orbits would take up the whole classroom, with pluto a pebble 5 doors down the hallway.
Thanks, that just saved me 24 min
Learning about how our own solar system had formed is one thing but figuring out the engineering feats is more the reason to do these projects.
We fly metal objects in air, built by metals found in the ground, using fuel based on liquids and gases.
Explain that to a human 10,000 years ago. Now go forward 10,000 years and understand whatever we are then.
You know nothing, a fraction of nothing. I do too… and there’s nothing wrong with that.
In 10k years: “Getting to Pluto? You mean step outside?”
Me: “But it’s so far!”
Them: “Is your foot far from your toe?”
@@nwj03a come on now, what are the odds a species with the means to destroy itself and a history of nearly constant warfare going to last even at 10th of that? We are lucky to have made it 80 years. 10k, well luck. Has to run out sometime.
The further we get, the less likely it is just chance. Maybe we are the exception to a cruel reality (alone), or the butt of a bad joke (very not alone), maybe we are first (odd, but we are stupid relative to time).
I find hope in that at least some of us ask.
When we stop asking the why/who/what/where/when, then I’ll lose hope.
The first moon of Pluto is called Sharon??? I think "CH" whould be read as "H".
He said right off the bat Pluto is a planet. I agree.
So would these solar sails be able to carry cameras and send back pics.
Well, it’s really really far, we are all moving in relation to each other and space is a terrifying place.
The Robinson family was on a mission to Proxima Centauri but the show was canceled before they could arrive. What a shame.
Which goes to show how far proxima centauri really is. The show could have gone on for several more seasons and they still wouldn't even be close.
Time would be irrelevant if we just focused our efforts on suspending our perception of time during the travel to these far places. Even if we figured out how to travel at light speed everything's still too far.
Two reasons, current rocket technology and the ridiculous distances between planets and especially stars.
Pluto is a foot away, as proximal centauri is 2 miles away. Let that sink in.
I can slow jog 2 miles without even stopping for a break, so this will work
Because we can’t travel at the speed of light it makes traveling those distances difficult and time consuming!
Sounds like that was awfully expensive just for a Pluto fly by mission they need to work on a way for these probes to slow down enough to where they can stop linger and actually study the target?
Look up which other slingshot planets it also studied on the way...
Suprised you guys dont have millions of subs
Why Proxima Centauri will not pull, it up close, after the craft manages to travel, may be 70% of the distance, due to gravity? I guess, then the travel time will get reduced, suitably.
It is all relative , it is actually extremely easy to go to Pluto compared with going to another galaxy
Another galaxy is unachievable for millions of years. Proxima centauri is the closest star which is in our galaxy. I'd say in the next thousand years we will be able to get there. Also pretty sure they can see the planet with the James Webb telescope.
Crazy shit, near galaxies are tens of thousands of light years away, proxima centaury is really near the corner in astronomical terms
NASA had a proposal to send a Hydrazine powered drone to Mars. Perhaps you could add that to a video to discuss in the future. ?
Quick clarification. Franklin Chang Diaz is an American astronaut. He was born in Costa Rica.
It's very interested about New Horizon mission to Pluto on July 14, 2015 as it was successfully accomplished by NASA. Otherwise NASA and ESA in our international cooperation should develop these greatly improvements of our advanced technological spacecrafts and the latest & newest interplanetary human-crewed spaceships in our futuristic missions in our goals to reach on Proxima Centauri when we have our long-term plans on our future missions for Proxima Centauri as the Second Earth for future humankind for geneations and our humanity in space and planetary explorations. Our dream will become real in oue reality.
Having watched some of these videos,this looks more and more like a marketing campaign for merchandise like t-shirts and coffee mugs as opposed to science.
There's also the little problem that Earth is probably the only planet in the universe where human beings would be able to live comfortably on the surface. Star Trek always has the people walking around on planets breathing the air. If you went back in time on Earth to the Dinosaurs, you'd suffocate to death after a half hour. And that's the planet our mammal lungs evolved on. If you did find "Earth Almost Exact" planets with the right composition of atmospheric gasses, pressure, gravity, magnetic field, flowering plants that don't eat you. They will be extremely rare and probably not easy to find. Or travel too.
If you could go back to the time of the dinosaurs, you would probably have to time warp in space. You would probably turned into a fossil by the asteroid's aftermath trying to get there on earth. Going to, or coming from that era.
16:00....1/4 impulse power...😅....better start working on that matter/anti matter drive....
17:29...that was the original propulsion concept for Discovery in Authur C Clarks/Stanley Kubricks 2001....
you answered it in the first 7 seconds
My favorite PLANET!!
Why cant we use nuclear steam gen recycle the water as rad protected and use massive ion drive supplies sent beforehand picked up on route
Even the smartest human is still human. So at end of the day, it was nice living this mystery with everyone! See you in our eternal future! 👍
20:22 Voyager 1 left our solar system in 2012 voyager 2 left in 2018
Funding for building & preparing the technologies & consumables for a very long-term spaceflight aside, Ion &/or a nuclear-powered fusion-thrust rocket seem to be the only way, doing a continuous forward thrust for at least a couple dozen years or more, if not for a number of centuries, and then at a point later, a continuous reverse thrust to slow down when coming into range for the star system of Proxima Centauri & then orbital insertion of a planet of there. Even an AI-manned system would be difficult to keep going for such a long time frame past the measly dozens of years non-stop, let alone a manned spacecraft, for people likely to never see their loved ones/families ever again, or even Earth itself. The problems of interpersonal interactivity, the stress of being cooped up in a small space for dozens of years non-stop, cultural issues for those onboard from different countries, boredom, limited food, water, air,.. etc, etc, etc.. Perhaps only if we become able to do long-term suspended animation of people, to reduce all of the constant day-to-day issues of space travel, or a super-large type of spacecraft, an ONeill-cylinder type ship with many livable zones as a generational ship, with people of all types of career professions to inhabit it,... Who knows..
So why can't we use the JWST to view the planet and all it's glory
Because we still use dinosaur fuel.
I know the Jupiter 2 got lost...but did they not almost make it Alpha Centauri? Damn Dr. Smith...
We can build a huge ship and send lots of people.
But we need to make sure the planet around proxima is habitable first
We cannot. With the current technology level the trip to Proxima Centauri will take 80 000 years
And then after traveling for 2 thousands years: sorry guys we were wrong there's no habitable planet here
Even worse... Thousands and generations that will die as earthlings never seeing earth. With today's tech... Morally wrong.
We should build a kaplan thruster and just move the whole solar system...
Just making 3min video to 30m 😮😮😮
Warp drive engines fold the space-time into whatever distance you want.
If we sent insects into space I wonder what would happen would they live for ever and keep growing or die out
they would 100000% die
You have watched too many movies. 😂
So far and no oil :-)
I’m packing my suitcase right now, but I have a few questions and must haves. There has to be salsa and it Hass to be good. I’m gonna need oranges and strawberries probably blueberries have to be able to be grown there.
Let’s say it takes 50 years what sports am I gonna start there will football still be relevant to soccer? Baseball, Tennis?
Can I build something like Las Vegas there and so I can gamble on the satellites winning the very first football season and then I become rich on alpha Centauri?
🤡
It always makes me sad to realise how prohibitive inter-Stella flight is
Same. I hope that in my lifetime we at least get visitors that managed to figure it out. That would be the next best thing. I just want to know what's going on out there.
What about inter-galactic travel
And this is why we all are doom worrying about budget when it comes down to human life
Pluto is "easy" (We have even seen it close up.)
But the nearest star is "impossible"...utterly beyond any tech we have now or for many centuries into the future.
Voyager 1 will be at the same distance (but not position) from earth in 77,000 years (Seventy Seven Thousand Years.)
Voyager 1 recedes from Earth 1000 more kilometres every single minute. That's fast.
If you wanna see Pluto, go to Disneyland 😂
These days it has become a trend on youtube to make stupid video and ask questions whose answers are very obvious. They have no content.. 2/3 they just spend time in telling about history and other word nonsense.
We should already be using nuclear powered ships to explore our solar system. It's a natural process of the universe but unfortunately the technology was used for destruction. Now every greeny jumps up and down when it mentioned for anything. Other technologies like fusion and harnessing solar efficiently we just aren't developed enough to be practical. Exploration of our solar system would be so much easier if we used the technology we already have
We are all just brains floating in jars hooked up to insane quantum computers. Pluto is just the end of Pi.
Because of insane distances.
Especially Alpha Proxima.
With that one, you won't live long enough. Neither would your children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and so it goes.
If they cured aging time would no longer be an issue.