What If He Had done something there which influences the current actions in Ukraine? For examble forcing the war Happening in 2022 to disarm russia as a conseuquence (in maybe 2-3 years) to possibly prevent a 3. World war with nukes a couple of years later?
I like to think there's aliens out there watching us struggle to wrap our heads around time paradoxes the way animals react to their own reflections, and finding it really cute.
A nobody in the Soviet Union would not have the means to afford a Japanese camera. He would have had a Lomo, FED, Zorki or any of the numerous cameras produced in the USSR
@@mateusloubach Agreed, evolution is fiction. If the creation of anything thru molecule to man evolution were true, nothing should evolve because organisms have ORGANS. and evolution could never get even 1 of them to function right, LET ALONE 4 OR 5!! AND THE CIRCULATORY SYSTEM!! The sequence of DNA can be identical but produce different results based on the presence or absence of epigenetic markers. So if humans and chimps share a common ancestor and these chemical tags are heritable, they should have similar epigenetic markers, right? They should (if evolution were true), but they don’t. the bbt (bigbang theory) is a manmade construct. How insane the chances must be for mill's of plants and animals to magically mutate over ludicrous spans of time. We should find missing links. However we dont, we only find Fully Formed animals. If animals could evolve into totally new animals, there should be a chance we find missing links. ONLY THE SIMPLEST LIFE FORMS SHOULD BE ABLE TO EVOLVE INTO EXISTENCE. GENETIC ENTROPY WILL UNDO WHATEVER BENEFITS THE ORGANISM MUTATED, FASTER THAN THE ORGANISM WILL MUTATE BENEFICAL TRAITS. EVEN THEN, THE CHANCES OF ANY ORGANISM MUTATING A BENEFICIAL TRAIT ARE NEXT TO NONE. HOW MUCH MORE CRAZY IS EVOLUTION, WHEN APPLIED TO MILLIONS OF PLANTS N ANIMALS?? FOR THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE.... DEBUNKING BIGBANG: if the bigbang was real the 2nd planet's orbit would be normal and sat turns ring particles should've moved too fast for ANY gravity to pull them towards the planet. And thats not even taking into account the bigbangs hot temprature which shoulda vaporized anything. also there is too little antimatter in universe. if bigbang was real 99.999999999999999999999% of our universe should Not exist because antimatter destroys matter when it make contact with matter. the bang wouldve made much of it touch matter. so we see far less stars n stuff bc the so called bigbang wouldve destroyed nearly all of it. . READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY!! ----> this should prove that Jesus is Real: JESUS CHRIST will Not make you take any mark, and He will punish the tyrannical ANTI Christ. The ANTI Christ will get a terrible wound, but cure himself to reinforce his deception to decieve the non-Christians and the lukewarm Christians. (look up lukewarm Christians on Christian websites and/or the Bible.) the AC will be world famous and very popular. he will make people take a mark on r hand or forhead. there will be a severe punishment for not taking it. The ANTI-Christ is a control freak, the opposite of Jesus Christ. However, this AC will act all nice and cool for 3 years and 6 months, and then he will make a tyrannical dystopia. for another 3 years 6 months. Jesus uses His power for GOOD, NOT EVIL. This is BIBLE PROPHECY. Dont trust the false god, his goal is to get people into the lake of fire. he will go there too, despite all the FALSE MIRACLES HE WILL DO! Repent of your sins to Jesus Christ before its too late, you could die today!
I mean, I'm sort of happy about this. If 2050 still looks like New York City today.... I wouldn't be happy. I presume that would still be a cold, uncaring, capitalist world.... a world I don't want to inhabit. I want Artificial Supertintelligence to make society so great that an economic system is unnecessary and everyone's life on Earth is truly awesome, perhaps via a personalized, highly awesome simulation for everybody, reverse aging, all diseases cured, everyone is genuinely happy and satisfied with their life... etc. So I breathe a sigh of relief that that is NOT 2050. Although, 2050 might still look like that in New York City and everything I said above might be true? I don't know. Thinking about the technological singularity and the upcoming decades in a realistic manner can be tough. It's hard to predict.
"Time is the most insidious force in our lives. It marches on, it never stops, we're ultimately at its mercy. The greatest fantasy we have is to escape it's grip." Damn. Maybe im just going through a bad breakup, but that shit resonated with me just now.
this guy has 2 million subs lol you know in the other timeline you had to literally write a song like every breath you take to have this....or head over heels..........iphone and social media ruined your species
Being from Kyiv and in my teen years back at the time, I can share that such techno-mystical stories were quite a hit back in the day. In every corner, you could buy some yellow newspaper talking about Soviet UFO secrets, and TV was filled with "Psychic" reality shows and pseudo-documentary UFO-cryptid mystery dramas. One of the most popular shows was literally called "Psychic War" where they would test a bunch of "Psychics" and make them complete quest-like challenges. This story 1:1 fits the mold of such yellow entertainment and I vaguely remember hearing about it.
Great...that is why Americans went crazy cause they were running behind on the remove viewing and psychic projects. And then they poured so much money into it...they are not good at it anyway. Severed connection to source, no spirituality. DARPAand Cia robots can't possibly understand this.
It feels a bit dishonest to tell the story as something real knowing it probably isnt. But Joe is good at telling a story and I at least enjoyed the wonder of believing it was actually possible this really happened. Which is a kind of magic I almost never get to feel given I'm a relatively hard sceptic of these kind of things. So I give him a pass for temporarily duping me.
I witnessed something like this. I worked in a pub here in the UK and the gents loo had one way in just around the bar...A chap walked in wide eyed and looking like a 1920s chap (before it was cool this was in 92) and he asked for the toilet I had just opened and motioned towards the door, he went in. A few customers came in and as I served I as a good pub landlord took note of who is in and out. Now after 20 minutes this chap had not come out of the toilet so I went in to find no one in but also a stall was locked and I had to climb over to open it from the next stall. The only window was a barred 2 by 3 foot window. He did.t come out of the loo and fuck knows what happened to him.
Someone came into this tiny shop i worked in. Open layout, anywhere you stand, you could see everywhere. She walked to the back of the store. I turned to put a jar on a shelf (literally one second) and then she was just gone. I ran out onto the street and she wasnt anywhere out there either
Once upon a time I was driving I close my eyes was so tired when I open my eyes 15 minutes has passed and I was in the same spot. I was like WTH is going on scratching my head and the speedometer at 50mph so at least I should be 5 miles away not at the same spot 😮
I time travelled as I wrote this post. 3 seconds I'll never get back....unless...I write another reply to go back in time again. Oh, then I have to write another reply and another reply Oh crap, I'm caught in a time loop now.
Most convincing one I've seen was the guy from the 1800s who stepped into a street in NY and was immediately hit by a car. There were police reports found on it that corresponded to both the year he disappeared and when he died. Its a story I ran across the first time before the internet was even invented.
This is actually a short story called "I'm Scared" by Jack Finney, published in 1951. It was in the early 70s that it became an urban legend with newpapers publishing elements of the story as factual. Search up "Rudolph Fentz" for this character, but I do recommend giving the original story a read, it's pretty good.
@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 you literally clicked on a video titled "the most convincing time traveler story" so obviously you are just as curious as the rest of us about the topic
The why files did a great video on this. He does a really good job at spending the first half of the video convincing you that this can’t be anything but a time traveler, then crushes your dreams in the second half.
But it’s still potentially plausible. He did say yes the ID stamp was wrong the photos were photoshopped, things were pretty botched but in the recreation. There was a real ID, photos, etc etc but it’s all just… vanished??? Idk something’s not right, I believe the story and won’t rule it out because there’s no real “evidence” proving it’s true or false
I met someone who felt like a time traveler once. I worked in a cafe in Sweden when an old man came in and talked to me in an antiquated kind of Swedish (just old, not ancient), saying he'd not been in Sweden for a long time and such. It was really cool, I sold him some coffee and he left. Later in the day my boss checked the till and started laughing and asked where the 50+ old bills came from 😬😬
Do they speak like that in some isolated villages? Sounds like some old hermit that found some old money stashed away in his bookshelf or something and decided to go in to town to get some lunch.
@@Veladus moved from the rural South to a very different part of the country and can confirm - i feel like a time traveler every day and its how i try to explain myself and why i seem much older than my years, among other... nuances
Can relate, I was in my bed probably half awake and half sleep or whatever, I was trying to ready myself in 5 AM and for work, but I accidentally took a blink, Then it was 8 AM and I couldn't go to work that day.
That happens to me too. I get up at 7, get my coffee and bam! I'm still on my feet, but my coffee is cold and it's10 AM. This didn't happen when I went to the office everyday. ;)
The grandfather paradox has never seemed like a big deal to me. By going back to kill your own grandfather, *you* still experience time in a linear path. Even going back in time, *you* are still going forward in time relative to you. You still age, *your* wristwatch still goes forward etc. Your timeline of events is that your grandparents led to your parents leading to you leading to you going back and killing your grandfather. You would have just displaced yourself entirely from the linear timeline everyone *else* experienced. No one else would be able to explain your birth but you could. There's actually an easy explanation for why you exist with no traceable lineage. Existing in a time before your birth to kill your grandfather in the first place should be a paradox but it's not. If you secretly stayed in the past before your birth and didn't kill your grandfather, then eventually witnessed your own birth and now there's two of you, it's not paradoxical because there is a through-line of time for you. In fact, if you went back one week and killed your past self then showed up back in the present to the amazement of those who thought you were dead, you wouldn't cease to exist for the same reasons. You exist as matter, if you just disappeared that would violate more laws of physics than the time thing. That's my take anyway, but what do I know? Lol
After all that,my thought is WHY would your watch be at the right time? It would NOT BE,and that's been proven,not the right "date" much less the right " time" which has never existed to Begin with!!!....This case is FASCINATING!!
@@Oogway_TheGreatno What if it creates an entire new timeline of its own Sure I went back to past and that past is different timeline that is I did not go back in time in my own timeline instead I went to another timeline This seems like a simple logic to me that fixes the grandfather paradox
Thsi story is also very similar to a time traveller who apparently showed up in a Japanese airport with an actual passport from a country that never existed. He was very confused and wasn’t sure what was going on. They interviewed him. Checked out his story and then had him stay in a hotel where he disappeared without a trace. Never to be found again. People say it could be a parallel universe thing. I believe this story is on the channel the wt files or why files.
And that country still used passports lol we started removing passport being all digital but countries in future for some reason still use passports 😂😂😂😂😂
Someone needs to make a movie based on the events that happened in this story. The amount of questions and curiosity it could bring to cinema would be insane.
And give the plot a generous dose of timeline shenanigans comparable to Primer. That way we'd have 100s of hours of extra content from YT film analysts
Today i dreamt abt the same and I went back to 1942 India and I'm an Indian so I was telling ppl abt the independence year and wondering to get back to my timeline abruptly I woke up from that dream and it was scarier than a ghost. I started searching abt time traveling videos and found this and your apt comment reminding my dream
There is also a similar time travel story. A man arrived in a Japanese airport in 1954 with a passport from Taured. He was detained in a hotel room under guard and disappeared the next morning.
@@A_TH-cam_Commenter you are clearly not familiar with the existence of Tuareg people or the Sahel special terrirory as well not about the ignorance many have to this day with "world maps". Check with any american, he'll point to Egypt or Madagascar when asked about Indonesia
I think the problem with the story is that he is quoted as saying “look at my camera” to prove he saw the UFO, and also after he took the photo he also says that he looked at his camera. In pre-digital cameras there was no need to look at a camera after taking a photo, because you couldn’t see anything until the film was developed. He would have instead told the people quizzing him to look at his film. And of course would not have looked at all after taking the photo of the UFO.
This episode is like "let's go to this awesome restaurant! So excited this. Love this menu they have. Pictures so good!" But you drive 20 mins to find out they closed on Sundays. And it's Sunday.
The idea of a self-correcting timeline was one of the sub-plots of that Stephen King story about the Kennedy assassination, and as a story device it was really well done. It's also, sorta, part of the underlying lore for Nolan's _Tenet_: the reason inverted phenomena didn't work the same way (like a fire burning in reverse) was that they were always pushing against the normal flow of time in the environment around them. Like they were constantly paddling upstream. I kinda like the idea of time having its own momentum that resists you trying to bend it too far. Another way of looking at it is that you can't change the past because whatever changes you make were already made in your own past, and that past arrived at your present as it is.
Talking about changes in the timeline quickly shows how limited our vocabulary is. Like does a change take time to apply to time or does it happens instantly everywhen. Could a time traveller outrun the changes, travelling faster forward in time then the changes in time move through time.
I read a GOOD PART of that book.... I REALLY need to finish it cause you are SO correct about how well it was utilized in the book....I dont wanna spoil it for anyone but I got really saddened by certain hard events in the book and put it aside and never got to finish it . But it TRULY did the "time fixes itself..in its own way" idea SO well
@@joshuawargo6446 You capture exactly how it made me feel with how Sisyphusian his attempts were in vain. The early 2000s movie by the way does the book justice and I recommend; the director (or writer? Can't remember) is actually HG Wells's great grandson!
Regarding the Godfather paradox - I have two different takes on it. 1) By going back in time and changing events in the past, you would simply create a new, alternative timeline that runs parallel to the original one. 2) Similar to the billboard thing - you going back in time is already considered in the timeline. The fact you went back and did things is already part of the past, therefore there are no "changes". Both options would also explain why our past wasn't changed by people from the future to rectify catastrophic events like WWII or climate crisis. Either they did and created new timelines as a result (which we wouldn't know) or they tried but their actions had no effect because they were already included in the calculation. Ok, now my head hurts..
That was exactly what i was thinking, whenever a person travels to the past it creates a new timeline and the original one will be unafftected by it, so whatever the time traveller does will affect the new timeline and for ours that person will just go missing never to be seen again and also he wont be able to return back to his original timeline. It's a really interesting concept to think about.
Plot twist : time travel is possible but there are an infinite number of realities and we time travel to a random reality every time we use a Time Machine.
You have to come from the future with some future technology before I believe you. Show me your anti-gravity drive. Also you going to take anything seriously from a country that elects a comedian to be their leader? whats next an actor?
I live in Kyiv. I would remember if something like that happened in 2006, but it never made to the news. So it was totally made up for the show and never happened. Those shows were quite popular here at the time. It was a better time actually. Everyone lived in peace. No war back then. I miss it.
Respect where you are coming from, but if it did happen how would you know about it? Why would it be in the news, why would they allow the public to know the truth It may be total nonsense , but let’s face it if they don’t want you to know about it , you won’t.
@nez9751 haha. You don't know local social media here. They can make big news even if nothing happened at all. Now there is a lot of shit happening as the country fights for its existence, but in 2006 people were mostly interested in something like chupakabra reported to be seen in the nearest forest.
The bit from Germain Tobar about being unable to create a paradox reminds me of Douglas Adams’ word on the subject in “The Restaurant at the End of the Universe” “One of the major problem encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother. There is no problem in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can’t cope with. There is no problem with changing the course of history - the course of history does not change because it all fits together like a jigsaw. All the important changes have happened before the things they were supposed to change and it all sorts itself out in the end. The major problem is simply one of grammar, and the main work to consult in this matter is Dr. Dan Streetmentioner’s Time Traveler’s Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations.”
My favorite self-correcting timeline story was the one Fritz Leiber wrote in which a man tried to prevent himself being shot in the head and the Universe was so bound and determined to see to it that he got a bullet hole in the forehead that it arranged for a meteor to come down and hit him right where the bullet had failed to strike.
I was thinking of that same story. I remember it starts out talking about him seeing the meteor shower out the window, and then in the end he gets hit by a meteor.
As someone who only lived in Ukraine for a decade of my childhood, I remember that show (and one called Battles of ExtraSenses/Phsycics) really well. As a kid, I honestly believed the show, as did my teen sister, but in the grand scheme of things, the alien show wasnt treated as seriously. The psychic one was believed more, but still, was treated as an entertainment programme
I think around that time I more or less stopped watching TV, and moved to PC and internet. Luckily, I got hooked onto more skeptical and science positive sources. The friend of my family printed a yellow paper with that crap all throughout 90s and early 2000s, then he got into Orthodox christian cult-like mentality, conspiracy theories, anti-American jingoism, the sacred Russian imperial monarchy and other such nonsense. Thought of him as a mostly harmless cooky guy up until 2013... Never felt more vary about the mentality that starts with "harmless" spooky stories like this one and then leads all the way to science denial and feelings-derived knowledge about voter fraud. The "Russian world" is built upon years of paranormal jingoistic propaganda bullshit from Russian tv channels.
@@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 (sorry for the bad english of a french citizen in love with a russian girl ) People who lived under the communist dictatorship, developped a capability to see throught media PROPAGANDA, and became quite resistant to it. The french people and other western nations are still permeable to media propaganda. We have a lot to learn from russians and ukranians and roumanians and spanishes and portugishes and germans, who lived under tyranie and managed to get out of it. These people have tyranie mainly behind them but we, french, english, americans could have this pitt in front of us. We must create interpersonnal links accross the globe, from person to person, to prevent manipulations over our heads, by media, mafia, states, lobies, etc.... PEACE & LOVE from people of FRANCE to peoples of UKRAINE and RUSSIA.
@@1sanremy my experience of people from communist/post-soviet countries has been a mixed bag. Some are exactly as you describe, being able to see through the propaganda spewed by Western governments that westerners struggle to see through. Others swallow the lies hook line and sinker as if they were still living under the regimes they escaped from, or even act as government agents whenever their home government decides to promote a patently false position. For example in Australia we had Chinese students show up by the bus load as counter protesters at a "Free Tibet" event
As a very minor SF&F writer who pens a lot of time-travel stories, this sort of topic is like a magnet to me. I love 'em--but since I know what I'm making is entertainment, as well as entirely fictional, I don't need to believe the tales I'm drawn to. Good stories are worth learning from, as a storyteller, and I want mine to be memorable for my readers. So, thank you, this one was a well-developed piece of storytelling. Thank you for bringing it to my attention!
In terms of science, if a spacecraft did take him far out and back, that explains why he is young and time went by. But it can't explain how his girlfriend saw him a few days later as a young person again. Is Einstien wrong?
@@morpher44, I think it's more of a case that Albert didn't live long enough to have access to all the info he needed to complete his work during his lifetime. Physics is still evolving, and will do for centuries. Writers have to make do with what we can understand of all the sciences we use as story plot points. One of the limits we are up against is that we can't let facts get in the way of a Good Story. Some writers actually are scientists, and the science in their stories are more accurate--*if the story benefits from greater scientific accuracy.* While loads of us do care about scientific accuracy, what *all* of us care about is writing good stories that readers enjoy--AND, are willing to pay us a bit of their hard-earned cash for the chance to read our work. In the final analysis, writing is as much of a job as it is a calling. My time travel stories *can* involve lots of research into actual history. Or Physics, for that matter. But only when dropping that in makes the story better. You've got to remember, no matter how many lab coats and particle accelerators appear in the story, time travel is, in it's deepest essence, a Fantasy genre. It can have as many science-fiction elements as a writer chooses to include, but at its heart, it is always going to be a retelling of "Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court," or "Rip Van Winkle." At least, those are the two main tropes I can think of at the moment.
yet it is weird the guy aged in 2050 and is still not a young man. Maybe in 2006 he escaped, and then aged 44 years to be in his 60s. If true, then he is in our timeline now.
one time when I was working at a liquour store, a strangely-dressed dude walked up to my register. he was eating cashews out of a jar. he was kind of weird-looking, but well-kempt and clearly lucid and sober. he just looked out of place, mostly because of the incredibly confused expression on his face. he just looked really lost and a little dazed, but again, clearly sober and lucid. he asked me, "can i just get some lemon-lime marlboros?" after taking a couple seconds to recoil from my shock, i just told him, "we don’t have those. I don't actually think those exist." still looking really confused, he paused for a minute, then just said "okay" and walked out of the store. It was probably the weirdest thing to ever happen to me. the only way I can think to explain that interaction is that i met an interdimensional traveler.
So your explanation for unusual people is that they are interdimensional travelers? Which is more likely... that they are interdimensional travelers or they are just unusual. Before you answer, bear in mind that there is a ton of evidence that unusual people exist and no evidence that interdimensional travelers exist.
@@kathyharris1627 They sell jars pf cashews or they sell unusual people in Mexico? What are we squeezing to release flavor? I feel like your comment jumped here from another dimension.
I think this story was inspired by the time travel man in Japan, he was found at the airport with a legit passport from a country that doesn't exist. He pointed on the map around Andorra.
@@slavi8433 thanks man, looked into it. Very interesting nonetheless, reminds me of a few other story's involving planes, where a plane leaves disappears and arrives days or years later. People dissapearing out of thin air is much more common then people care to believe. Theres some books/documentaries on people vanishing from the national parks in the states, called missing 411.
Science magazine Rudolf fenz. The story is always basically the same with variations. They always dissapear without any of the hotel staff or authorities observing they do, they always have some ridiculous ID that was either taken or found. It's all nonsense...
This is not about time travel is about parallel universes and mandela effect. The country in the zone of Andorra was "Taured" and never existed and probably won't ecist
I remember seeing an interview with Anthony Quinn, and he mentioned that acting is really in the pauses more than the words. I can't find this anywhere now but it stuck with me.
@@de-daa its certainly a theme I've heard discussed in different areas - particularly in music, the pauses between notes (particularly, the times when you'd expect a note but dont get one) for example I think in art its a somewhat common thing? its just a bit of a flip from how most people perceive things normally. Instead of focusing on the "stuff" you focus on the lack of it, something like that
The "What if...?" question has driven both SF _and_ science and continues to this day! Indeed! SF itself has heralded scientific advancement! And we hold in our hands smart phones that surpass Star Trek communicators and tricorders to some extent. Buck Rogers (in the 1930's) predicted laser weapons, a concept SF still uses, and which scientists harness. IIRC, there were SF depictions of using energy beams to find buried ancient cities. Today we have laser apparati that can do this and have done it. LIGO has measured gravitational waves from colliding black holes. I think Superman might have seen underground lost villages with his X-ray vision. Consider this: one big thing from the iconic book _Stranger in a Strange Land_ was that water is a sacrament. Nowadays around the world everybody is realizing how sacred water is to life on Earth and how precious it is. Robert Heinlein wrote this concept into this famous book. But anyone with this concept could have written it. Many people feel this way from all walks of life. Over time, more and more people came to think this way. So not only scientific concepts and those of fantastic technology manifest, but also societal concepts, many that were laughed at but came to be adopted.
Anakin I'm not sure if anybody's actually done this, but imagine you took a stick and tied a carrot to it. Then you get on the back of your horse, or get in the seat of a wagon, and you use the stick to dangle the carrot in front of the animal. The horse, or donkey or whatever, wants the carrot so they walk forward, and you've tricked them into moving you. So carrot on a stick means something you want which motivates you. The other part of this is if the animal quits moving you hit them with the stick. So you have positive motivation from the carrot and negative motivation from the stick. Please note that I've never hit an animal with a stick.
the exploitation of that carrot on a stick, "what if" factor is something like the "Barnum effect", which just means that people want to be fooled and entertained based on an incredibly vague claim with a very limited amount of information, often because it's what the person wants to hear. i believe this is a side effect of being "intelligent", because every other animal on Earth appears to never delude themselves of their senses unless one of them is taken away. humans seem to have the ability to believe our powerful imagination, such that people could believe that a magician makes a ball vanish into thin air because the magician suggested to you that's what they were going to do. i'm pretty sure that every other animal besides us do not actually believe that a ball can vanish into thin air, even when they are confused about where the ball went when you did a magic trick, because they don't have the capability to make such conclusive assumptions that it somehow disappeared into nothingness, especially when it is (always) concealed before the vanish, as to have not actually witnessed the vanishing of physical matter. actually, if you give that animal time, it may try to search every part of your body which could contain the ball which appeared to have vanished, which would actually be an incredibly logical reaction to their observations, and of course you would indeed have the ball somewhere on you, as matter cannot vanish. humans seem to have been conditioned for magic, such that we don't really care to inquire much with our sensory abilities beyond an immediate presentation of what something *appears* to be
I just now came from Twitter where I saw (and was thoroughly amused by) a video where someone was sitting in a full ghillie suit in a large plant pot pretending to be a potted plant in front of some business' entrance. He was talking to passers just saying "yo, what's up?" having them turn around in confusion wondering who was speaking. It is always good to keep in mind how much effort some people will go through just to screw with people merely for the lols (let alone if they have an actually strong motivator like money).
Best prank ever? Wear a hazmat, go into a store, and ask someone what year it is. When they tell you, yell "I did it! I traveled through time!" and then run out of the store and down the street.
It would be cool if someone found an old camera in excellent condition with film and then just built a time travel story around it. Saying you're from the past is smart too, since you'll be working around established fact and not trying to guess the future.
@@evildude109 It could work, maaybbeee. Like if, say, your grandpa gave you his old camera and you found a couple old film rolls in the bag. Then you develop one of them, realize your grandpa used to look EXACTLY like you, and then concoct the plan. You'd have to kinda assume that the [edit: undeveloped] film roll would have at least one picture of your grandpa, though. Pretty reasonable bet, all things considered. The other thing i'm not sure about is whether would you be able to see the pictures if you had a darkroom and all the equipment? Idk enough about photography to know if there's a way to do that. Regardless of all that, I don't think a roll of film is stable enough to last half a century undeveloped and still maintain any sense of image clarity. Maybe I'm wrong (because again idk anything about oldschool photography), but I can't imagine it wouldn't degrade a ton, ya know?
It could. At you're local library you may have microfiche, and it hardly degrades at all under right conditions. It's also analog, digital media fails more quickly "bit rot", in part because it's storing 1s and 0s. You're making assumptions about film (just the negatives, BTW not the developed film) based on cheap, consumer quality examples. I praise you for admitting that might be the case. That humility seems rare on the interwebs.
On the other hand, if you found such a camera, and it had a roll with a few exposures left, couldn't you just take pictures of yourself in front of a matte painting or in a Volume?
@@squirlmy Except that's not how "bit rot" works (or what it even is). In the case of data storage/retrieval, it's about the eventual inability utilize the physical media (or interface) or file format. Take the optical disc as an example. A "pressed" disc will last as long as the polycarbonate and aluminum alloy from which it's made (basically forever). Even burned discs will last for decades if properly stored. But will a computer 50 years from now even have an optical drive? The laptop I'm writing on right now doesn't! And good luck opening some of the ridiculous closed-source proprietary file formats of the 1990's...
Indian here. Not sure where you're getting your Mahabharata information but time travel is, at best, incidental to the story. As an epic poem there are many side stories that do not affect the core narrative (which is simplistically a story about two warring sets of cousins). There do seem to be some stories that, at best, display some concept of relativism and the idea of different planes of existing having different rates of time. But there's definitely no time TRAVEL, at least no instances so integral to the plot that the Mahabharata could be described as a story ABOUT time travel.
The story contains an element that is common in SciFi time-travel stories that haven't really been thought through well. If you leave for another time, and spend three days there, there is no reason why it would be three days before you showed up in your own time again. That would be true if you went to Paris for three days, but not if you went to 2050 for three days, since you are then traveling between points in time, and can supposedly return to any such point.
Exactly. They make it out like returning two days later in 1958 is proof he spent two days in the future. Pretty dumb when you give it a second thought.
Even more so: if you time-travel via an Einsteinian closed time-like curve that happens to bend into the future (somehow), you _must_ return to the exact same point in time at which you left---or to some point _prior_ to that point.
The most common way to explain the grandfather paradox is that on the moment you travel back the timeline splits into a different reality, a parallel universe, while keeping the original one intact. Both universes exist. One in which you were born, one in which you were not.
@@dccisco9515 ye basically the harry potter way, everything that you intended to change in the past you have already changed and this is the outcome, before you ever go into the time machine. but all of these are really just fanfics with no scientific evidence. science just says you can't go back in time
@@DaynaE65 japan and russia (then ussr) are neighbours. trade between those countries always been common especially with minor goods who could easily tranported. would not be dificult one of those cameras end up in kiev.
@@GordonHudson this isn't about the 1980s, it's about the 1950s, and Japan isn't a western country. Not sure if you responded to the wrong comment/video.
@@TheTransporter007 Joe and AJ talk sometimes. I had a brief interaction with Joe on TMI asking him about AJ and the why files, and Joe actually told AJ about the interaction lol. They are both re-telling a story, so its really nobodies to "rip", and they both put their own twist and perspective, which I love to see. Thanks for the video Joe!
Stuff like this is why I like to let people know that "nearly everything you think you know is just stuff other people told you and you believed based on their presentation."
Except no reasonable person would accept the given narrative without further corroborating evidence that these things did exist as portrayed. If you needed the woo woo alarm to recognize this story as likely false, you are begging to be swindled out of money and votes. And I clicked with an open mind, refusing to conflate improbable with impossible. The more mundane claims of life that we don't have time to fact check should always have a question mark paper clipped to them, an indication that uncertainty is higher than for more rigorously investigated claims, adjusting of course for prior plausibility.
Exactly! EVERYTHING! Right from the start of your life all the way through kindergarten, primary school, .... , university, and our own experience and perception.
@@cemmetje1987 realizing is how I really gained an open mind. People pushing their ideas like to complain about how closed my mind is when really they're just trying to dictate how things are. Literally anything can be possible and I don't have to believe in any of it! I just do with what I have.
@@TechnoL33Tbeing ‘open minded’ is all well and good, but without applying critical thinking, you run the risk of being manipulated and exploited. healthy scepticism is much more valuable than being open minded.
A little detail puzzled me: the picture camera was a real object from the 1950s, but it was a Japanese machine. How likely was a young man in the Soviet Union in 1956 to have acquired a Japanese technological item? What is more, there was an extremely similar picture camera produced in the Soviet Union at that time, it was called "Любитель" (I happen to own one). Again, the film may not be produced anymore, but any photographer is able to develop it from an old camera.
this story is completely fiction - this can be seen from the handwriting in which the document is filled out. This is a document that a person is a member of a Komsomol organization.. This is not an identity document. And most importantly, it is filled with clumsy handwriting - which is nonsense. People with a calligraphic handwriting were always selected to fill out documents. This immediately caught my eye - this is 100% fake.
I believe you, so am I, went back to the butchers that I had been to years before and travelled back and it's not there any more so I jumped on a bus and travelled forward.i checked my bus ticket which showed 3.31pm, travelled forward till the journey took its toll and I jumped off, had no idea where I was but looked at my watch and it was 4.03.i went home and my girlfriend asked "what time do you call this","you said 2 minutes and that was ages ago. It's dangerous,it's not worth it
If you are interested in a great time travel show I highly recommend Dark. It features several ways to deal with paradoxes, from the person actually causing the event they tried to avoid to people actively preventing or causing events so timeline doesn't loses it's course and everything in between. Of course it's not perfect, but i don't know the first story you cannot poke holes in. And the ending is so good, at least for me, *spoilers* because the time machine was built so efficiently that it never needed to be built.
There's also a story about an investor that earned millions then disappeared mysteriously. There's no record of him before making the initial investments or after disappearing.
Imagine if he was actually abducted by aliens, taken to a distant star system and then brought back which caused the shift in time and the whole thing was real
How aliens avoid shifts in time on own planet then !?everytime they will be in other time when they will back on own planet ,they probably have some mechanism which protect them from that so if they travell 30min from own to our planet and back again time will stay same there same for them
@trashboity8773 it technically possible since you can travel forward in time (relatively) to others by being next to a larger gravitational field. Like in interstellar.
Stephen King utilizes the Billiard Ball model REALLY well in his novel 11/22/63, because when the main character travels back in time to stop Oswald from killing Kennedy, there are multiple moments where the main character is prevented from reaching that goal by seemingly unnatural forces (fate or bad luck, whatever you want to call it.) It’s described as if the past is resistant to change, its really interesting and it seems as if King had done his research before he wrote it
@@Boost400 For some people, if you say that there would not have been some visionary future if only either of the Kennedy brothers had lived is a heresy. I don't think so. John Kennedy might have slowly morphed into a dated, even quaint figure. Robert Kennedy, if he had become president, would have presided over the same reforms and probably the same dragged-out ending of the Vietnam war as Nixon did. It would be only that these things would be looked at as great accomplishments. Edward Kennedy did live. How did that work out? I have some personal sympathy for him, but as a political figure he was often wanting. He was loud but not always a thorough thinker.
@@anonymike8280 im talking about the 11.22.63 tv show, the main character eventually stops the assasinate but after going back to his timeline, he finds the world destroyed by a world war 3 so he goes back in time again and leaves the past as it is
@@Boost400 That's a decent plotline based on the time travel rules that existed in sci fi and speculative fiction in the Postwar era. The film _The Terminator_ blew up these rules and also Asimov's Law of Robots is a spectacular way. The Terminator was released 39 years ago. The law of online comments is this. You are allowed to agree or disagree with a previous comment, hold forth on the subject for the interest of anyone, amplify the issue or some part of it, or be outright5 discursive. "Discursive" is a ten-dollar word that means, change the subject. My comment goes to the realm of amplification. You do know, something significant happened on 11.22.63 which has greatly affected how people think about the past. Right?
The only other time traveller story I know anything about is the case of John Titor. I briefly looked into it in 2006 and it seemed like quite a lot of people were convinced. There is a wikipedia page about John Titor.
John Titor actually already was kind of "officially" debunked too, and this is a poorer history by the way. Unfortunately even the closest ones were proved to be fake.
It also interested me - especially the machine schematics and the little known fact about the IBM computer. Unfortunately it was apparently a well thought out hoax - well maybe, who knows. There is a more convincing example of someone who came back and used his knowledge to play the stock market and he made so much money that he was arrested for insider trading. Whatever he told the cops it convinced them enough to let him go- upon which he disappeared forever
9:48 This reminds me of the idea from the show 11.22.63 that “the past pushes back” and tries to avoid being changed. How the first character tried to save a woman from an accident but things happened each time to delay him
There are three different models I've read about. 1. Changing the past will change the events of the future cause things to not exist or disappear from existing 2. You can't change the path. Everything is meant to happen, and even if you try something, it will not let you or will cause the event to happen. If you are going back to change, it was always a part of the plan 3. When time travel was first used, it created alternate timelines. Everytime you time travel, you create different timelines that change based on the changes made.
Ok.. I’ve been looking for clue whereabouts of time travel’s “ exist “ where is the time travel? Is it hidden under government’s bunker or what? A secret high school students making a time travel backpack device? 😅🤷🏻♂️ come on.. give me a tip! I might need to borrow on one thing I needed to do. That’s all I’m asking.. 🤷🏻♂️
@@askjake2426 Yes mate, I also wondered about time travel in the past but discarded the idea after researching about this topic. Time dilation can take place but not in the reverse. Also, time dilation needs to keep the matter intact otherwise what is the purpose anyway if you are going to be reduced to smithereens.
@Wings Of Freedom That is where things get dicey as There is no time dilation or notion of time defined at the speed of light. Time dilation relates differences in coordinate time and proper time intervals. There is no such effect for light as “reference frame” is not defined for light. Time dialation would be a property of our world and if we every traveled faast enough in theory we would be able to bend the space time and in doing so technically creating a "Bubble" of time" that exists outside of the Percievable universe and this is where things get weird because law of physics really start to fuck up when you move at the speed its so strange.
@10:40 Mahabharata is not about time travel. Its a huge epic mostly about duty, family, right and wrong and karma etc. It has small subplot(s) that deals in Time dilation I.e. time passing different for different observers and in different dimensions.
What he meant to say that the very first time travel story was recorded in Mahabharata where King Kakudmi went to meet Lord Brahma. He travelled from earth to his destination but as he met Brahma, a lot of years had been passed on earth
@@the_spider_lily911 True, however, that is case time dilation and not of time travel. The travel was at relativistic velocity and/r the location was in high gravity field leading to time dilation (ref: the planet around black hole in Interstellar). This is not time travel i.e. moving forward/backward in timeline in the current reference frame.
If I've learnt one thing over the last year or so of acquainting myself with Ukrainians online, it's that they have an amazing sense of humour and love a wind-up.
Sergei Ponomarenko is a famous Russian ice dancer, who skated with his wife and partner Marina Klimova. They won a gold medal in the Olympics in 1992, silver in 1988 and bronze in 1984. Busy guy, with all that time travel! 😂
My theory is that if you were to go back in time to kill your grandfather, you would end up in a parallel version of your past. Therefore, if you killed your grandfather, it would only change that timeline, not the one you left from.
This story seems eerily similar to one which came out of Japan, I think. A man turns up in an airport with a passport for a land that didn't exist. Authorities took him to a hotel for the night before they worked out what to do with him. Next morning he had disappeared from the room. No way out apart from the door which had been guarded the whole time. I think this is the inspiration for the Russian version.
I grew suspicious when the story obviously was inspired partly by the 1951 short sci-fi story “I’m Scared" by Jack Finney about a time traveler by the name of Rudolph Fentz, and partly by the urban legend The Man From Tuared, which in fact has some truth in it, but it was a con man named John Zegrus (who consequently didn’t disappear from a locked hotel room but was sentenced to to one year in prison by the Tokyo District Court).
If i recall corretly there is also a story very simmilar to this one, down details like the guy disappearing when he enters his room and etc. The only differences are the fact that the guy had an ID that looked nothing like any ID from across the world, he was from a country that didn't exist and the story took place in Japan. 😂
@@alanwatts8239 Yes, that’s the urban legend ”The Man From Tuared” that I mentioned in the OP. It has some grain of truth in in it, however the time traveling part of the story is entirely fabricated.
The act of going back in time creates a timeline in which you arrived from the future so anything you do would not affect where you came from. Like if you go back in time and kill your grandfather, it would have no effect on you because the act of going back in time in and of itself changes the past. So it's not really your grandfather that you're killing, it's the grandfather of someone that doesn't exist. The future would then progress randomly as it does because everything after the point you arrived hasn't happened yet. Another example would be if you went back in time by a year, went to where you were a year ago then cut off your past self's hand. Your hand wouldn't just disappear because that's not you, it's a version of you living in a time where someone came from the future to cut off their hand. If you take something from room A and put it in room B, you can't affect that object from room A because it's not there anymore. If you stay in the now empty room A then go back to the point in time when it was in room A and destroy it, it's not the same object because you never destroyed it in room A, you came from a room in which the object was moved to room B.
This and The Why Files constantly toy with my emotions lol. For the first half I’m stunned and excited by what I’m watching and hearing and the second half takes all that and brutally tears it down and breaks my heart 😢. Still, every time you upload something like this I’m front and center to watch and be fascinated Joe. I wouldn’t have it any other way tbh 😊
Fear the Crabcat! You're so right! I really get drawn in by these kind of stories only to be shot down in flames as they are debunked! What an anti climax!
I love when they tear it down and debunk things, personally. When I was a kid, I loved believing in urban legends and ghost stories and stuff. As an adult, I still love them, but like science even more.
Damn it Joe! Give me a dream and shatter it! You did a great job "sincerely" selling the story, and your plot shift was awesome. Great video, but gosh darn it!!!!!!
the doctor immediately coming up with a sciency-sounding explanation is what really tipped me off, it doesn’t seem like a natural reaction but it’s exactly the kind of thing random weirdos they bring on ancient aliens type stuff say
@@notmenotme614 Doctors are people too. If presented with such otherwise compelling evidence, I think anyone with the smallest amount of curiosity would have the film developed. Just in case.
@@JB52520 That’s true, but it would be a hell of coincidence that he himself has a keen interest in photography, to the point he’d recognize an antique from the 50s, and know a dude who can develop an old film that no one else can… The story would’ve been more convincing if it was the police that used their ressources to find someone, but it does make the story cooler if it’s the doctor 😂
@@minisn3066 Most old film can be developed, especially black and white. I don't think Kodachrome can be processed any more except possibly as black and white. In any case the results will be poor but possibly recognizable. Perfect for UFO pictures!
OMG! I remember watching this on TV!! Yes, I can confirm that the program is 100% entertainment. Some episodes were inspired by urban legends, some by literary works and a couple were original. These paranormal mockumentary-type series were pretty popular back in the 2000-s to 2010-s. The channel that made this one (1+1) is the most popular channel nationwide and produces a lot of original content.
If you were a time traveler and realized someone might be close to finding out, wouldn’t you want to go back in time and either change the evidence to make it look fictional and or fake?
Yeah because if a group of men show up at my house several days later with guns, I’m not gonna have a fun time as opposed to just holding my discovery secret.
In Soviet Union, you do not manipulate spacetime, spacetime manipulates YOU! It's good to know that Kiev is rebuilt after the current war and has skyscrapers. Thanks for the good news, Sergei. Now we have hope.
Call from the Finnair pilots just landing our plane in Leningrad in 1989: “we have just landed at Pulkovo airport, don’t forget to turn your clocks back 50 years …”
There's a life-sized Bruce Lee statue in Bosnia-Herznagovia from 2005. Who would have predicted that? And onion-domed buildings are cliched, a variation would be nice!😉
I don't think Kyiv, nor any city would look this way in 2050. It looks like urban planning hell to any civil engineer and skyscrapers themselves have more or less were already brought to their zenith in '80s. The only super skyscrapers being built today are usually based on insane egotistical plans cooked up by dictator rolling in petroleum money. And these projects have and are taking up to 20 years or more to complete. Some stalled in hiatus without a single hardhat being near them for years.
That Sergei lost 50 years of his life wasn't the most astonishing part. Had the spaceship existed and been fast enough, it follows mathematical models. That he somehow returned back to his original time was the most unlikely part.
My parents were once driving through a desertic area in Morocco, in a completely flat area with no bushes or anything. Just endless dry, rocky area. They found 2 young boys with backpacks walking, now Morocco is a poor country and there are many kids who walk dozens of kilometers to school. They stopped the car to give them a water bottle. As they exited the car, the 2 boys were GONE. They had vaporized or something, my parents are not superstitious or anything, but they are both clueless as to how they managed to disappear just like that. Funnily enough this was also in 2006-ish.
Thanks for the video. I'll be honest - as Ukrainian, I wasn't very surprised by the truth, because I do remember from my childhood the fact that our television has various shows that can be about things like this 😂
True) STB and 1+1 had a lot of those shows with theories like "aliens built the pyramids". I wouldn't consider it an 'investigation". It's more like science fiction)
Great video! Have considered the issue for quite some time. I speculate that as soon as an individual (call it "X") reaches the past, a brand-new alternate universe deviates from ours, in a manner by which "X" could kill any of his/her ancestor(s), since it would not impact his/her original universe, which would go on - unmolested - immediately after "X's" departure.
There has never been any story related to time travel in Mahabharata. Though one could say that there is a clear mention of time flowing differently in 'svarg' (heaven) and earth and has implications on some side story like of King Muchukund. BTW you are awesome. Have learnt so much from you. You are the best.
The Billiard Ball Model is literally the Doctor Who model of time travel. Basically, insignificant changes can be made but if you try to change major events, the timeline will just correct itself to have it play out anyway.
No offense to anyone religious, but I did have the thought not too long ago, that if you were to go back and eliminate Saul of Tarsus, later Saint Paul, the whole of Western civilization would be impacted most directly, no doubt with ripple effects around the globe. The whole scripture would be changed, absent his letters, and perhaps a Gnostic version of Christianity would have become dominant
I think not being able to change the past isn't determinism as it is normally, just that what HAS happened WILL have happened. The future is in a constant state of flux and can change, but the past has been set by what has already occurred, your ability to affect it restricted by the circumstances of your departure to the past in the first place. You could possibly change something you had no knowledge of, but could never affect things you do. In the present you operate by the present's rules, but the past operates differently.
My favorite time travel story is _Palimpsest_ by Charles Stross. It takes all the concepts of causality, paradoxes and plot holes SF nerds love to argue about and flips them sideways. The story throws away nearly all the 'rules' and ends up making a lot more sense without them.
Oooo, this sounds right up my alley. Is it a book? This is kind of dumb, but 'palimpsest' is one of my favorite words. I had never heard it until the Canadian prog/math-metal band, Protest the Hero, released an incredible album a few years ago by the same name. Each song is an interpretation of an actual historical event or person, like the Boston molasses incident or Amelia Earhart. (Incidentally, PtH is the only metal band worth listening to, haha.) Then I recently learned about religious-type artifacts like vellum documents being found and misunderstood by laypeople because they're palimpsests from different authors and/or time frames. ANYHOOOO...
im gonna be completely honest, i have no idea why Street Fighter nerds would care that much about time travel...now the Mortal Kombat kommunity on the other hand...
Joe, I'd love to see you do a collab with "The Why Files", you two seem like minded and have a similarly engaging way of telling stories! He too has done some very interesting videos on time travel 🤯
everyone is trying to ride that algo soon as AJ uploads all these idfiots rip off his material & up the same video WHATS FUNNY is AJ has PURPOSELY put an easter egg red herring into several vids - cos he knows ^^^ these divvys will go with it hook line sinker & subscription to Angling Times
Physicist here. While I highly doubt we'd ever get the technology for it in the sense that SciFi movies portray, one condition of time travel thats eems to come from general relativity may be that you can only travel 'back' in time to the point of a closed curve, such that once the time machine is made you would suddenly be able to see time travellers if it worked, but before the point of time machine invention it would be impossible to see any time travellers.
How and were are you going to tunnel to in past if you do not know were to go in past.Our body can not take time travel we do not know were to begin on even mapping out time prints.
You would need an energy finger prints of that time with the time unique print so that your machine can connect to that times energy id so it can build a tunnel but we can not do that.time travel is real but in the movies.
@@ghostbombl8034 Honestly I don't know, but maybe if you jumped or tunneled to the 'future' a memory map or fingerprint would still be available for the past.
It cant just be me that remembers a sifferent version of this?? It was a guy checking in to some government security, or an airport, and his passport said he was from a place between france and another place which didnt exist, the security didnt know what to do with him so they just asked him to go be in a hotel or let him go and he went to one, but then like this version he went into his room and dissappeared without a trace, not out as the hotel was 5 stories tall, and not out from the normal way. Nothing. Interesting...
I typically don't get goosebumps or chills listening to stories but just like Mr. Ballen's entire youtube channel this story got to me. Plus woo woo alarm PTSD. 😬😂
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes I don't think it's fair to call him a hack. He's just trying to entertain people with fun stories. Yeah, a lot of them are probably BS, but whatever.
Hey Joe, I found your video today while browsing youtube. Your episode is great. Still I just want to correct you in one part. I am an Indian, so we knew a bit more about Mahabharata. It is an epic in Sanskrit. But it is not at all a story about time travel. This Epic has multiple layers with a huge number of characters. The plot line of this epic was about ancient Indian politics, sociology and war strategy and more over it a kind of motivate us with a tag line something like "Do your duty no matter even if you have to stand against your family. Stand for the principles and values , not for family. And God will be with you." But I do understand why this mistake was done. Indian ancient Puranas (text or scripts) are kind of series or spin-off stories attached to each other. For more than thousand years ancient Rishis (monks) wrote them. So some of the characters cross-merged with each other with the time and the believe in that time. So there was a character in Mahabharata named Krishna, who is also believed an Avatar of Hindu God Vishnu, his elder brother was Balarama. Now Balarama's wife Revati is said to be a time traveler. But there is no direct reference of Revati in Mahabharata. If I am not much wrong, even in mahabharata it was not even told that Balarama had a wife! This reference comes from some other ancient Sanskrit text. Good day buddy.
I largely agree with your comment on this matter. However, there exists a distinct interpretation of the Mahabharata that discusses the intricacies of determinism and Karma (and their paradox). This interpretation, while not central to the epic battle or explicitly outlined in the moral directives, finds its roots in the Vedas, the essence of which is encapsulated in the Mahabharata. It introduces a paradox wherein God's divine plan operates beyond the confines of linear time, and yet the actions (karma) of individuals shape the course of events. In essence, there is a simultaneous existence of a preordained divine plan and a malleability influenced by human actions. This implies that although everything is metaphorically "written" in the grand scheme, individuals in society are contingent upon the deterministic unfolding of events that determine the repercussions of their actions. In the Mahabharata, Krishna orchestrates events with omniscient knowledge, yet the Pandavas and Kauravas exercise their free will. It's not a matter of time-travel, but rather a contemplation of determinist paradox, i.e., how actions unfold in a seemingly inevitable manner.
I love time travel stories ever since I read a (I think) East German sci-fi book as a child. It was called "Lost in times" (roughly translated). It was about a man who built a time machine and travelled back to medieval times where he tried to bring the people electricity, but obviously it went very poorly and he never made it back to his time. Meanwhile his friend wondered where he had gone and investigated his disappearance in modern times where he ultimately found old papers in the town hall written by his friend hundred of years ago and hidden in the walls, before his death. The story scared me so much 😅 i have only read it once, bout 17 years ago, but I never forgot about it.
This was easily your best ad transition ever, it was honestly so breathtakingly subtle, and earnest! I know good ad transitions are hard to write and hard to put on camera, unless you really believe in the product. And I believed you about Brilliant. Bravo!
This happened to me and my mate, walking across a graveyard and a odd looking guy dressed from the 50's/60's was stood flashing photos on a old camera with a sheet over his head and a old postman's push bike against a tree. We walked past him and made eye contact, he looked at us confused as we did. We walked 5 meters and turned around and he had vanished.
I had a similar instance in a schoolyard in Orange, Connecticut on a Sunday while walking my dog. My dog and I heard voices but saw nobody. My father, who was waiting in the car and a jogger, who was standing by the car window, both asked me who the guy with the 17th century type clothing was who was walking alongside me. I didn't see anyone but heard the voices.
I recall an old story how an immersive 'time froze' an examp;e I think is allegedly a couple near England was strolling about the Roman Ruins in a daze they heard a flash and BANG! Insantly, the world grew night whereupon legions of Rome troops marched the streets. Fun fact: they apparently were ina 'pocket' time whereupon time is frozen and the place is so concentrated the 'past' is in a loop frozen and materializes. I heard this from other accounts. Fun stuff
9:50 I had this exact idea for how time travel would actually consistently work for a movie a couple of years back; basically it would revolve around trying to travel back in time to stop a war, but you need to be skilled enough to make it such that the likelihood of you failing is less than the likelihood your entire life was a lie and you had lived in VR until the point of return
If someone jumps back in time, the life of person jumping back also rewinds back. Think of it as jumping to a section of a video. Every event of your life has a time component.
The best explanation for time travel I’ve heard was that you cannot travel before the invention of the Time Machine. So when the Time Machine is invented from that point forward in time you can access, and back but not before the creation of it.
Ah yeah... And that story was BS, just like pretty much everything on the time travel. Though it stuck with you which means those advertisers that used that space for commercials in that show got their moneys worth. Because you remembered it subconsciously for the rest of your life. And that is exactly what they wanted from you...
@@korana6308 it was from a philosopher in a book… everything I stated was hypothetical… feel like whatever anger your dealing with is misplaced. Touch grass, lift some iron, get off the free dopamine brick. It helps wonders. Cheers!😎☀️
This is true but supposedly this guy didn’t time travel via a time travel machine. He travelled at the speed of light through some alien spacecraft and came back.
You can if your consciousness travel (not the physical body) many people have this capacity and some are using them in governments. However, time is not like something written in the stone. You can have a vision of the future event and because of several factors (one the most important being that we have free will to change our minds) the vision can play out differently.
Imagine being a time traveler , and you use that amazing experience to visit Eastern Europe in 2006
Winners can't be choosers.
Just in time to watch that t.A.T.u. music video on TV
At least it wasn't Eastern Europe in the early 2020s
What If He Had done something there which influences the current actions in Ukraine? For examble forcing the war Happening in 2022 to disarm russia as a conseuquence (in maybe 2-3 years) to possibly prevent a 3. World war with nukes a couple of years later?
@@mcgubert you mean that romanian song with the band dancing on a plane and crazy frog everywhere
I’ve never been so excited and so disappointed in such a short period of time
Me 2!
I was like 😱 then 😢
Haha me too 😂
Lol.
Me too!! 😢😢
A real bummer - dang, I was really hoping to go back in time and not watch this video................................ Just Kidding
I like to think there's aliens out there watching us struggle to wrap our heads around time paradoxes the way animals react to their own reflections, and finding it really cute.
might put this on r/WritingPrompts and credit you, are you okay with that?
aliens thinking i'm cute isn't the worst thing in the world
well there are another race on this earth that see us and we don't see them, & that's 100% and people confuse them as ghost, but they are not ghost.
@masesero2150 who and how do you know?
Read "Jokester", by Isaac Asimov
A nobody in the Soviet Union would not have the means to afford a Japanese camera. He would have had a Lomo, FED, Zorki or any of the numerous cameras produced in the USSR
Very true. Old Bulgarian camera or something, at best. Not a Yashika
Lomo made a yashica clone tlr.. could be that. Honestly having a Japanese camera in ussr would be more wild than aliens lol
Did anyone ask where he got the camera.
Why’s that
@@maeryumImport restrictions.
“It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.” Mark Twain
Truth needs to make "sense" as well. EVERYTHING can be explained. It's just that we don't have the explanations and answers.
@@godnyx117 See Godel incompleteness
@@maxthomas-bland4842 I did. Mindfuck, lol!
very different from nowadays, where truth makes sense and fiction is what is being shoved at out faces.
@@mateusloubach Agreed, evolution is fiction.
If the creation of anything thru molecule to man evolution were true, nothing should evolve because organisms have ORGANS. and evolution could never get even 1 of them to function right, LET ALONE 4 OR 5!! AND THE CIRCULATORY SYSTEM!!
The sequence of DNA can be identical but produce different results based on the presence or absence of epigenetic markers. So if humans and chimps share a common ancestor and these chemical tags are heritable, they should have similar epigenetic markers, right?
They should (if evolution were true), but they don’t.
the bbt (bigbang theory) is a manmade construct. How insane the chances must be for mill's of plants and animals to magically mutate over ludicrous spans of time. We should find missing links. However we dont, we only find Fully Formed animals. If animals could evolve into totally new animals, there should be a chance we find missing links. ONLY THE SIMPLEST LIFE FORMS SHOULD BE ABLE TO EVOLVE INTO EXISTENCE. GENETIC ENTROPY WILL UNDO WHATEVER BENEFITS THE ORGANISM MUTATED, FASTER THAN THE ORGANISM WILL MUTATE BENEFICAL TRAITS. EVEN THEN, THE CHANCES OF ANY ORGANISM MUTATING A BENEFICIAL TRAIT ARE NEXT TO NONE. HOW MUCH MORE CRAZY IS EVOLUTION, WHEN APPLIED TO MILLIONS OF PLANTS N ANIMALS?? FOR THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE.... DEBUNKING BIGBANG: if the bigbang was real the 2nd planet's orbit would be normal and sat turns ring particles should've moved too fast for ANY gravity to pull them towards the planet. And thats not even taking into account the bigbangs hot temprature which shoulda vaporized anything. also there is too little antimatter in universe. if bigbang was real 99.999999999999999999999% of our universe should Not exist because antimatter destroys matter when it make contact with matter. the bang wouldve made much of it touch matter. so we see far less stars n stuff bc the so called bigbang wouldve destroyed nearly all of it. . READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY!! ----> this should prove that Jesus is Real: JESUS CHRIST will Not make you take any mark, and He will punish the tyrannical ANTI Christ. The ANTI Christ will get a terrible wound, but cure himself to reinforce his deception to decieve the non-Christians and the lukewarm Christians. (look up lukewarm Christians on Christian websites and/or the Bible.) the AC will be world famous and very popular. he will make people take a mark on r hand or forhead. there will be a severe punishment for not taking it. The ANTI-Christ is a control freak, the opposite of Jesus Christ. However, this AC will act all nice and cool for 3 years and 6 months, and then he will make a tyrannical dystopia. for another 3 years 6 months. Jesus uses His power for GOOD, NOT EVIL. This is BIBLE PROPHECY. Dont trust the false god, his goal is to get people into the lake of fire. he will go there too, despite all the FALSE MIRACLES HE WILL DO! Repent of your sins to Jesus Christ before its too late, you could die today!
This story can be summed up with “My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.”
Why?
I mean, I'm sort of happy about this. If 2050 still looks like New York City today.... I wouldn't be happy. I presume that would still be a cold, uncaring, capitalist world.... a world I don't want to inhabit. I want Artificial Supertintelligence to make society so great that an economic system is unnecessary and everyone's life on Earth is truly awesome, perhaps via a personalized, highly awesome simulation for everybody, reverse aging, all diseases cured, everyone is genuinely happy and satisfied with their life... etc. So I breathe a sigh of relief that that is NOT 2050. Although, 2050 might still look like that in New York City and everything I said above might be true? I don't know. Thinking about the technological singularity and the upcoming decades in a realistic manner can be tough. It's hard to predict.
@@michaelli925 Is that a rhetorical question.
@@daveroy9683 commented that before watching it lol
Ah, the guy who ate bad Burger King. But that sadly fits.
I am a time traveller. I came here in 1962, and it has taken me just over 60 years to arrive at Today.
Go back while you still have the chance! 😜
Explain the pfp, youtube or the internet wasn't a thing back then
@@aydensagmoen7586 huh?
60 years must be a small price to pay for the glory of Today innit?
@@aydensagmoen7586 the joke flew over your head huh
"Time is the most insidious force in our lives. It marches on, it never stops, we're ultimately at its mercy. The greatest fantasy we have is to escape it's grip." Damn. Maybe im just going through a bad breakup, but that shit resonated with me just now.
Oof. I hope things are looking better for you now.
this guy has 2 million subs lol you know in the other timeline you had to literally write a song like every breath you take to have this....or head over heels..........iphone and social media ruined your species
Time is the best healer as well.
Time is a mere convenience for scientists to be able to measure the physical world and for employers to check the efficiency of their employees.
This story sounds a lot like the man from Taured. Almost the same story updates with new names and dates
Being from Kyiv and in my teen years back at the time, I can share that such techno-mystical stories were quite a hit back in the day. In every corner, you could buy some yellow newspaper talking about Soviet UFO secrets, and TV was filled with "Psychic" reality shows and pseudo-documentary UFO-cryptid mystery dramas. One of the most popular shows was literally called "Psychic War" where they would test a bunch of "Psychics" and make them complete quest-like challenges. This story 1:1 fits the mold of such yellow entertainment and I vaguely remember hearing about it.
You'll be disappointed to find out that it was part of a driven effort to normalize bigger bullshit. It's happened all over the world.
Great...that is why Americans went crazy cause they were running behind on the remove viewing and psychic projects. And then they poured so much money into it...they are not good at it anyway. Severed connection to source, no spirituality. DARPAand Cia robots can't possibly understand this.
The west had Uri Geller back in the day, a phenomenally popular "psychic" . Ouija boards were also popular back in the 70's.
You mean Kiev?
@@Jadty Thats Russian for Kyiv.
Sometimes it’s just fun to imagine these stories for a minute, suspend disbelief a bit and wonder. Like, just imagine if this were true.
*Were
i will eventually but my autism won't let me get past the thought that i've been pronouncing anach-ronistic wrong my whole life.
@@oilersridersbluejays oh, yeah. Fixed it 👍
No. It's fun all the time
It feels a bit dishonest to tell the story as something real knowing it probably isnt. But Joe is good at telling a story and I at least enjoyed the wonder of believing it was actually possible this really happened. Which is a kind of magic I almost never get to feel given I'm a relatively hard sceptic of these kind of things. So I give him a pass for temporarily duping me.
I witnessed something like this.
I worked in a pub here in the UK and the gents loo had one way in just around the bar...A chap walked in wide eyed and looking like a 1920s chap (before it was cool this was in 92) and he asked for the toilet I had just opened and motioned towards the door, he went in.
A few customers came in and as I served I as a good pub landlord took note of who is in and out. Now after 20 minutes this chap had not come out of the toilet so I went in to find no one in but also a stall was locked and I had to climb over to open it from the next stall. The only window was a barred 2 by 3 foot window.
He did.t come out of the loo and fuck knows what happened to him.
When he flushed... he went with it ? Just thinking outside of the box.
@@roymadison5686 he wasn't that small but hey igot noidea.
Someone came into this tiny shop i worked in. Open layout, anywhere you stand, you could see everywhere. She walked to the back of the store. I turned to put a jar on a shelf (literally one second) and then she was just gone. I ran out onto the street and she wasnt anywhere out there either
Mole people in your walls
Once upon a time I was driving I close my eyes was so tired when I open my eyes 15 minutes has passed and I was in the same spot. I was like WTH is going on scratching my head and the speedometer at 50mph so at least I should be 5 miles away not at the same spot 😮
I travelled back in time when I flew to America. I left Sydney at 3:40pm on June 2nd and arrived in Dallas at 3:20pm on June 2nd
and what did you do with those extra 20 minutes? watched TV and ate junkfood I bet
@@jacobpeters5458 Why do you think that? No, I read a book waiting for my next flight.
It's called timezones :)
I time travelled as I wrote this post. 3 seconds I'll never get back....unless...I write another reply to go back in time again. Oh, then I have to write another reply and another reply Oh crap, I'm caught in a time loop now.
Most convincing one I've seen was the guy from the 1800s who stepped into a street in NY and was immediately hit by a car. There were police reports found on it that corresponded to both the year he disappeared and when he died. Its a story I ran across the first time before the internet was even invented.
This is actually a short story called "I'm Scared" by Jack Finney, published in 1951. It was in the early 70s that it became an urban legend with newpapers publishing elements of the story as factual. Search up "Rudolph Fentz" for this character, but I do recommend giving the original story a read, it's pretty good.
@@snewl5324 Thanks. Always wondered but couldn't find way to refute it . Ill look it up.
@@rhfgssdtgt4199 always wondered? You think ppl R really traveling back in time? Cmon it's very doubtful
@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 you literally clicked on a video titled "the most convincing time traveler story" so obviously you are just as curious as the rest of us about the topic
Cars in 1800, wow
The why files did a great video on this. He does a really good job at spending the first half of the video convincing you that this can’t be anything but a time traveler, then crushes your dreams in the second half.
This is basically all the why files videos in a nutshell lol
Amazing channel
I will check it out 👍
That was the first thing I thought of when watching this 😂😂
But it’s still potentially plausible. He did say yes the ID stamp was wrong the photos were photoshopped, things were pretty botched but in the recreation. There was a real ID, photos, etc etc but it’s all just… vanished??? Idk something’s not right, I believe the story and won’t rule it out because there’s no real “evidence” proving it’s true or false
I met someone who felt like a time traveler once. I worked in a cafe in Sweden when an old man came in and talked to me in an antiquated kind of Swedish (just old, not ancient), saying he'd not been in Sweden for a long time and such. It was really cool, I sold him some coffee and he left. Later in the day my boss checked the till and started laughing and asked where the 50+ old bills came from 😬😬
That's actually way cool
Do they speak like that in some isolated villages? Sounds like some old hermit that found some old money stashed away in his bookshelf or something and decided to go in to town to get some lunch.
You can time travel here in the US easily. Just go to the southern states, they're still in the 1950s.
@@Veladus moved from the rural South to a very different part of the country and can confirm - i feel like a time traveler every day and its how i try to explain myself and why i seem much older than my years, among other... nuances
@@Veladus💀
The Most Convincing Time Traveler Story about me is I woke up at 6 then in a blink it's 9 already!
Can relate, I was in my bed probably half awake and half sleep or whatever, I was trying to ready myself in 5 AM and for work, but I accidentally took a blink,
Then it was 8 AM and I couldn't go to work that day.
That happens to me too. I get up at 7, get my coffee and bam! I'm still on my feet, but my coffee is cold and it's10 AM.
This didn't happen when I went to the office everyday. ;)
The grandfather paradox has never seemed like a big deal to me. By going back to kill your own grandfather, *you* still experience time in a linear path. Even going back in time, *you* are still going forward in time relative to you. You still age, *your* wristwatch still goes forward etc. Your timeline of events is that your grandparents led to your parents leading to you leading to you going back and killing your grandfather. You would have just displaced yourself entirely from the linear timeline everyone *else* experienced. No one else would be able to explain your birth but you could. There's actually an easy explanation for why you exist with no traceable lineage. Existing in a time before your birth to kill your grandfather in the first place should be a paradox but it's not. If you secretly stayed in the past before your birth and didn't kill your grandfather, then eventually witnessed your own birth and now there's two of you, it's not paradoxical because there is a through-line of time for you. In fact, if you went back one week and killed your past self then showed up back in the present to the amazement of those who thought you were dead, you wouldn't cease to exist for the same reasons. You exist as matter, if you just disappeared that would violate more laws of physics than the time thing. That's my take anyway, but what do I know? Lol
Many worlds theory it is a completely possible scenario.
You can't go back in time to change the past cus that past would now be your present
@@rasta77-x7o it is my understanding that the many worlds theory requires too much energy, simply not possible
After all that,my thought is WHY would your watch be at the right time? It would NOT BE,and that's been proven,not the right "date" much less the right " time" which has never existed to Begin with!!!....This case is FASCINATING!!
@@Oogway_TheGreatno
What if it creates an entire new timeline of its own
Sure I went back to past and that past is different timeline that is I did not go back in time in my own timeline instead I went to another timeline
This seems like a simple logic to me that fixes the grandfather paradox
Thsi story is also very similar to a time traveller who apparently showed up in a Japanese airport with an actual passport from a country that never existed. He was very confused and wasn’t sure what was going on. They interviewed him. Checked out his story and then had him stay in a hotel where he disappeared without a trace. Never to be found again. People say it could be a parallel universe thing. I believe this story is on the channel the wt files or why files.
And that country still used passports lol we started removing passport being all digital but countries in future for some reason still use passports 😂😂😂😂😂
Taured
@@nedned645 uhh they were from a poor country with time travel!
@@nedned645its parallel universe not future time travel so ofc they have passports
@@rienn8559 not poor its parallel universe
Someone needs to make a movie based on the events that happened in this story. The amount of questions and curiosity it could bring to cinema would be insane.
Now we know why he photoshopped photo of the future. There is no future.
It Would Change Cinema
Not this story but very cool along somewhat similar lines
And give the plot a generous dose of timeline shenanigans comparable to Primer. That way we'd have 100s of hours of extra content from YT film analysts
@@FromTheRootsToTheCrown I tried eating a banana like Prote did but it didn’t go well.
Finally a good practical video instead of clickbait. Good job.
Still fake maybe not the story but the time traveling
Yeah, not a fan of the clickbait of this one.
When does Joe ever post click bait???
What if those missing people just accidentally time travelled and couldnt go back to their own timelines?
Basically the plot of Dark on Netflix
So basically the aliens trolled him an said hey wanna drop this guy in the future for fun. Yeah why not 😊
@@Chris_73618 Maybe taking a photo of the ship caused the incident, if the trip had some strange hypertime drive. Or a flux capacitor.
Today i dreamt abt the same and I went back to 1942 India and I'm an Indian so I was telling ppl abt the independence year and wondering to get back to my timeline abruptly I woke up from that dream and it was scarier than a ghost. I started searching abt time traveling videos and found this and your apt comment reminding my dream
@@ashwininune5951 want me to slap you back into our timeline when u go to sleep?
There is also a similar time travel story. A man arrived in a Japanese airport in 1954 with a passport from Taured. He was detained in a hotel room under guard and disappeared the next morning.
That was covered by The Why Files and it was fake. also it was supposed to be a paralell dimension travel instead
it was Tuareg
@@GuxTheArtist it was a fake story and tuareg is an ethnicity not a country
@@GuxTheArtistIt was Taurus. Ford made that car in the 80s.
@@A_TH-cam_Commenter you are clearly not familiar with the existence of Tuareg people or the Sahel special terrirory as well not about the ignorance many have to this day with "world maps". Check with any american, he'll point to Egypt or Madagascar when asked about Indonesia
I think the problem with the story is that he is quoted as saying “look at my camera” to prove he saw the UFO, and also after he took the photo he also says that he looked at his camera. In pre-digital cameras there was no need to look at a camera after taking a photo, because you couldn’t see anything until the film was developed. He would have instead told the people quizzing him to look at his film. And of course would not have looked at all after taking the photo of the UFO.
Yeah but you would look at your camera after, to wind the film, reset the shutter, check settings, it was all analog.
Who said exact words were quoted?
@@saamstaan6540 its presented as a quote
You would remember what photo you took,
It is a translation error because Ukrainian language is different than English.
This episode is like "let's go to this awesome restaurant! So excited this. Love this menu they have. Pictures so good!" But you drive 20 mins to find out they closed on Sundays. And it's Sunday.
I’m gonna remember this story for the rest of my life and I’m going to find him in 2050 mark my words
Hit me up in 2050 with the news, please.
Lets meet together in 2050, I will be 56 at that time.
Me on the other side, I do not want to be alive until 2050…
Kiev 2050 it is
We need find the place he take the picture
@@thomasdambreville469 But we cant because, that is just a photoshop.
The idea of a self-correcting timeline was one of the sub-plots of that Stephen King story about the Kennedy assassination, and as a story device it was really well done. It's also, sorta, part of the underlying lore for Nolan's _Tenet_: the reason inverted phenomena didn't work the same way (like a fire burning in reverse) was that they were always pushing against the normal flow of time in the environment around them. Like they were constantly paddling upstream.
I kinda like the idea of time having its own momentum that resists you trying to bend it too far. Another way of looking at it is that you can't change the past because whatever changes you make were already made in your own past, and that past arrived at your present as it is.
Talking about changes in the timeline quickly shows how limited our vocabulary is. Like does a change take time to apply to time or does it happens instantly everywhen. Could a time traveller outrun the changes, travelling faster forward in time then the changes in time move through time.
Or the OG HG Wells TIME MACHINE
I read a GOOD PART of that book.... I REALLY need to finish it cause you are SO correct about how well it was utilized in the book....I dont wanna spoil it for anyone but I got really saddened by certain hard events in the book and put it aside and never got to finish it . But it TRULY did the "time fixes itself..in its own way" idea SO well
@@joshuawargo6446 You capture exactly how it made me feel with how Sisyphusian his attempts were in vain. The early 2000s movie by the way does the book justice and I recommend; the director (or writer? Can't remember) is actually HG Wells's great grandson!
What's the name of the stephen king book you mentioned?
Regarding the Godfather paradox - I have two different takes on it.
1) By going back in time and changing events in the past, you would simply create a new, alternative timeline that runs parallel to the original one.
2) Similar to the billboard thing - you going back in time is already considered in the timeline. The fact you went back and did things is already part of the past, therefore there are no "changes".
Both options would also explain why our past wasn't changed by people from the future to rectify catastrophic events like WWII or climate crisis. Either they did and created new timelines as a result (which we wouldn't know) or they tried but their actions had no effect because they were already included in the calculation.
Ok, now my head hurts..
I understand
But I don't
Damn
That was exactly what i was thinking, whenever a person travels to the past it creates a new timeline and the original one will be unafftected by it, so whatever the time traveller does will affect the new timeline and for ours that person will just go missing never to be seen again and also he wont be able to return back to his original timeline.
It's a really interesting concept to think about.
@@izy5199 oh yeah for sure!
U guys saw end game 😂😂😂😂 stop acting like this is an original thought
@@eddieogun the idea was not mine originally, i got it from steins gate and the kept thinking about it.
Plot twist : time travel is possible but there are an infinite number of realities and we time travel to a random reality every time we use a Time Machine.
I was so convinced the whole time but I knew that if this was actually legit, it would be either way more well known, or not known at all.
That's very poor thinking my friend.
@@bruiladebeen5671 why?
@@bruiladebeen5671 Yeah, I'd like to know why, too
@@bruiladebeen5671 yeah, explain, we’re listening
You have to come from the future with some future technology before I believe you. Show me your anti-gravity drive. Also you going to take anything seriously from a country that elects a comedian to be their leader? whats next an actor?
I live in Kyiv. I would remember if something like that happened in 2006, but it never made to the news. So it was totally made up for the show and never happened. Those shows were quite popular here at the time. It was a better time actually. Everyone lived in peace. No war back then. I miss it.
Right
Unless events occurred that changed your perception of the timeline.
bless Putin may he come save you
Respect where you are coming from, but if it did happen how would you know about it? Why would it be in the news, why would they allow the public to know the truth
It may be total nonsense , but let’s face it if they don’t want you to know about it , you won’t.
@nez9751 haha. You don't know local social media here. They can make big news even if nothing happened at all. Now there is a lot of shit happening as the country fights for its existence, but in 2006 people were mostly interested in something like chupakabra reported to be seen in the nearest forest.
The bit from Germain Tobar about being unable to create a paradox reminds me of Douglas Adams’ word on the subject in “The Restaurant at the End of the Universe”
“One of the major problem encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother. There is no problem in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can’t cope with. There is no problem with changing the course of history - the course of history does not change because it all fits together like a jigsaw. All the important changes have happened before the things they were supposed to change and it all sorts itself out in the end.
The major problem is simply one of grammar, and the main work to consult in this matter is Dr. Dan Streetmentioner’s Time Traveler’s Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations.”
How is this comment from 2 days ago? The video came out 10 minutes ago
@@mighty_kul8264 it has to be the best meta joke ever
but yeah wtf
He posts these early on patreon, so the comments are from there. It's a bonus for subscribers.
"b"theory of time. Also known as the"tenseless" theory.
@@mighty_kul8264 He's the actual time traveler
Never gets boring! Thanks! I'll check out Brilliant!
My favorite self-correcting timeline story was the one Fritz Leiber wrote in which a man tried to prevent himself being shot in the head and the Universe was so bound and determined to see to it that he got a bullet hole in the forehead that it arranged for a meteor to come down and hit him right where the bullet had failed to strike.
I was thinking of that same story. I remember it starts out talking about him seeing the meteor shower out the window, and then in the end he gets hit by a meteor.
Is it worth reading? The netflix series Dark has left me with a time travel hole in my life
@@billytheripper4 that show dragged on and on though
@@CastIronEric season 3 I think is where it got ridiculous
Watch travelers
As someone who only lived in Ukraine for a decade of my childhood, I remember that show (and one called Battles of ExtraSenses/Phsycics) really well. As a kid, I honestly believed the show, as did my teen sister, but in the grand scheme of things, the alien show wasnt treated as seriously. The psychic one was believed more, but still, was treated as an entertainment programme
I think around that time I more or less stopped watching TV, and moved to PC and internet. Luckily, I got hooked onto more skeptical and science positive sources. The friend of my family printed a yellow paper with that crap all throughout 90s and early 2000s, then he got into Orthodox christian cult-like mentality, conspiracy theories, anti-American jingoism, the sacred Russian imperial monarchy and other such nonsense. Thought of him as a mostly harmless cooky guy up until 2013... Never felt more vary about the mentality that starts with "harmless" spooky stories like this one and then leads all the way to science denial and feelings-derived knowledge about voter fraud. The "Russian world" is built upon years of paranormal jingoistic propaganda bullshit from Russian tv channels.
@@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842 (sorry for the bad english of a french citizen in love with a russian girl ) People who lived under the communist dictatorship, developped a capability to see throught media PROPAGANDA, and became quite resistant to it. The french people and other western nations are still permeable to media propaganda. We have a lot to learn from russians and ukranians and roumanians and spanishes and portugishes and germans, who lived under tyranie and managed to get out of it. These people have tyranie mainly behind them but we, french, english, americans could have this pitt in front of us. We must create interpersonnal links accross the globe, from person to person, to prevent manipulations over our heads, by media, mafia, states, lobies, etc.... PEACE & LOVE from people of FRANCE to peoples of UKRAINE and RUSSIA.
@@1sanremy my experience of people from communist/post-soviet countries has been a mixed bag. Some are exactly as you describe, being able to see through the propaganda spewed by Western governments that westerners struggle to see through. Others swallow the lies hook line and sinker as if they were still living under the regimes they escaped from, or even act as government agents whenever their home government decides to promote a patently false position.
For example in Australia we had Chinese students show up by the bus load as counter protesters at a "Free Tibet" event
@@1sanremy Your English is quite good. No need to apologize. : )
it's actually an American Show))) It was reworked for Ukraine.
As a very minor SF&F writer who pens a lot of time-travel stories, this sort of topic is like a magnet to me. I love 'em--but since I know what I'm making is entertainment, as well as entirely fictional, I don't need to believe the tales I'm drawn to. Good stories are worth learning from, as a storyteller, and I want mine to be memorable for my readers. So, thank you, this one was a well-developed piece of storytelling. Thank you for bringing it to my attention!
In terms of science, if a spacecraft did take him far out and back, that explains why he is young and time went by. But it can't explain how his girlfriend saw him a few days later as a young person again. Is Einstien wrong?
You might enjoy the Oxford Historian stories by Connie Willis… if you haven’t read them yet
@@icarusbinns3156, I am familiar with those. Very well done, as well.
@@danhollifield it was a delight to meet her, as well! By sheer luck
@@morpher44, I think it's more of a case that Albert didn't live long enough to have access to all the info he needed to complete his work during his lifetime. Physics is still evolving, and will do for centuries. Writers have to make do with what we can understand of all the sciences we use as story plot points. One of the limits we are up against is that we can't let facts get in the way of a Good Story. Some writers actually are scientists, and the science in their stories are more accurate--*if the story benefits from greater scientific accuracy.* While loads of us do care about scientific accuracy, what *all* of us care about is writing good stories that readers enjoy--AND, are willing to pay us a bit of their hard-earned cash for the chance to read our work. In the final analysis, writing is as much of a job as it is a calling.
My time travel stories *can* involve lots of research into actual history. Or Physics, for that matter. But only when dropping that in makes the story better. You've got to remember, no matter how many lab coats and particle accelerators appear in the story, time travel is, in it's deepest essence, a Fantasy genre. It can have as many science-fiction elements as a writer chooses to include, but at its heart, it is always going to be a retelling of "Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court," or "Rip Van Winkle." At least, those are the two main tropes I can think of at the moment.
This is a perfect example of why I'm glad I read the reviews before watching this
imagine if in 2050 this guy actually shows up again and is all "aw damn not again"
Ah shit, here we go again...
And as memory of the US help in the war. Ukrainian corporations announce the construction of a Empire State building replica in Kiev
yet it is weird the guy aged in 2050 and is still not a young man. Maybe in 2006 he escaped, and then aged 44 years to be in his 60s. If true, then he is in our timeline now.
@@philipweba6877 No I think they will be able to 3d printing to copy paste buildings.
@@philipweba6877 Kyiv
one time when I was working at a liquour store, a strangely-dressed dude walked up to my register. he was eating cashews out of a jar. he was kind of weird-looking, but well-kempt and clearly lucid and sober. he just looked out of place, mostly because of the incredibly confused expression on his face. he just looked really lost and a little dazed, but again, clearly sober and lucid.
he asked me, "can i just get some lemon-lime marlboros?"
after taking a couple seconds to recoil from my shock, i just told him, "we don’t have those. I don't actually think those exist."
still looking really confused, he paused for a minute, then just said "okay" and walked out of the store.
It was probably the weirdest thing to ever happen to me. the only way I can think to explain that interaction is that i met an interdimensional traveler.
They do sell those in Mexico and other parts of the world. They have a plastic piece in the filter that you squeeze to release the flavor
So your explanation for unusual people is that they are interdimensional travelers? Which is more likely... that they are interdimensional travelers or they are just unusual. Before you answer, bear in mind that there is a ton of evidence that unusual people exist and no evidence that interdimensional travelers exist.
@@whanethewhip💯 tell him 😤😤
@@whanethewhip Boom
@@kathyharris1627 They sell jars pf cashews or they sell unusual people in Mexico? What are we squeezing to release flavor? I feel like your comment jumped here from another dimension.
I think this story was inspired by the time travel man in Japan, he was found at the airport with a legit passport from a country that doesn't exist. He pointed on the map around Andorra.
Where can i find more info?
@@jahoreo7275 man from taured, i think it was just a made up story im not sure
@@slavi8433 thanks man, looked into it.
Very interesting nonetheless, reminds me of a few other story's involving planes, where a plane leaves disappears and arrives days or years later. People dissapearing out of thin air is much more common then people care to believe. Theres some books/documentaries on people vanishing from the national parks in the states, called missing 411.
Science magazine Rudolf fenz. The story is always basically the same with variations. They always dissapear without any of the hotel staff or authorities observing they do, they always have some ridiculous ID that was either taken or found. It's all nonsense...
This is not about time travel is about parallel universes and mandela effect. The country in the zone of Andorra was "Taured" and never existed and probably won't ecist
I love the pauses in all your videos. Help the topics sink in😂❤
I remember seeing an interview with Anthony Quinn, and he mentioned that acting is really in the pauses more than the words. I can't find this anywhere now but it stuck with me.
@@de-daa its certainly a theme I've heard discussed in different areas - particularly in music, the pauses between notes (particularly, the times when you'd expect a note but dont get one) for example
I think in art its a somewhat common thing? its just a bit of a flip from how most people perceive things normally. Instead of focusing on the "stuff" you focus on the lack of it, something like that
Time travel stories were some of my favorite sci-fi tales! The "what if" factor is always the carrot on the stick.
A carrot on a stick only works if you're a donkey. Just sayin'.
The "What if...?" question has driven both SF _and_ science and continues to this day! Indeed! SF itself has heralded scientific advancement! And we hold in our hands smart phones that surpass Star Trek communicators and tricorders to some extent.
Buck Rogers (in the 1930's) predicted laser weapons, a concept SF still uses, and which scientists harness.
IIRC, there were SF depictions of using energy beams to find buried ancient cities. Today we have laser apparati that can do this and have done it.
LIGO has measured gravitational waves from colliding black holes.
I think Superman might have seen underground lost villages with his X-ray vision.
Consider this: one big thing from the iconic book _Stranger in a Strange Land_ was that water is a sacrament. Nowadays around the world everybody is realizing how sacred water is to life on Earth and how precious it is.
Robert Heinlein wrote this concept into this famous book. But anyone with this concept could have written it. Many people feel this way from all walks of life. Over time, more and more people came to think this way.
So not only scientific concepts and those of fantastic technology manifest, but also societal concepts, many that were laughed at but came to be adopted.
What carrot on the stick means
Anakin I'm not sure if anybody's actually done this, but imagine you took a stick and tied a carrot to it. Then you get on the back of your horse, or get in the seat of a wagon, and you use the stick to dangle the carrot in front of the animal. The horse, or donkey or whatever, wants the carrot so they walk forward, and you've tricked them into moving you.
So carrot on a stick means something you want which motivates you.
The other part of this is if the animal quits moving you hit them with the stick. So you have positive motivation from the carrot and negative motivation from the stick.
Please note that I've never hit an animal with a stick.
the exploitation of that carrot on a stick, "what if" factor is something like the "Barnum effect", which just means that people want to be fooled and entertained based on an incredibly vague claim with a very limited amount of information, often because it's what the person wants to hear.
i believe this is a side effect of being "intelligent", because every other animal on Earth appears to never delude themselves of their senses unless one of them is taken away. humans seem to have the ability to believe our powerful imagination, such that people could believe that a magician makes a ball vanish into thin air because the magician suggested to you that's what they were going to do.
i'm pretty sure that every other animal besides us do not actually believe that a ball can vanish into thin air, even when they are confused about where the ball went when you did a magic trick, because they don't have the capability to make such conclusive assumptions that it somehow disappeared into nothingness, especially when it is (always) concealed before the vanish, as to have not actually witnessed the vanishing of physical matter.
actually, if you give that animal time, it may try to search every part of your body which could contain the ball which appeared to have vanished, which would actually be an incredibly logical reaction to their observations, and of course you would indeed have the ball somewhere on you, as matter cannot vanish. humans seem to have been conditioned for magic, such that we don't really care to inquire much with our sensory abilities beyond an immediate presentation of what something *appears* to be
I just now came from Twitter where I saw (and was thoroughly amused by) a video where someone was sitting in a full ghillie suit in a large plant pot pretending to be a potted plant in front of some business' entrance. He was talking to passers just saying "yo, what's up?" having them turn around in confusion wondering who was speaking.
It is always good to keep in mind how much effort some people will go through just to screw with people merely for the lols (let alone if they have an actually strong motivator like money).
My farts are better than Joe’s farts
Best prank ever? Wear a hazmat, go into a store, and ask someone what year it is. When they tell you, yell "I did it! I traveled through time!" and then run out of the store and down the street.
@@Falconlibrary That's fantastic.
Much better to pull up in a smoking DeLorean, and do the same.
It would be cool if someone found an old camera in excellent condition with film and then just built a time travel story around it. Saying you're from the past is smart too, since you'll be working around established fact and not trying to guess the future.
The problem is that he wouldn't have been able to see the evidence on the film because it hadn't been developed yet.
@@evildude109 It could work, maaybbeee. Like if, say, your grandpa gave you his old camera and you found a couple old film rolls in the bag. Then you develop one of them, realize your grandpa used to look EXACTLY like you, and then concoct the plan. You'd have to kinda assume that the [edit: undeveloped] film roll would have at least one picture of your grandpa, though. Pretty reasonable bet, all things considered.
The other thing i'm not sure about is whether would you be able to see the pictures if you had a darkroom and all the equipment? Idk enough about photography to know if there's a way to do that.
Regardless of all that, I don't think a roll of film is stable enough to last half a century undeveloped and still maintain any sense of image clarity. Maybe I'm wrong (because again idk anything about oldschool photography), but I can't imagine it wouldn't degrade a ton, ya know?
It could. At you're local library you may have microfiche, and it hardly degrades at all under right conditions. It's also analog, digital media fails more quickly "bit rot", in part because it's storing 1s and 0s. You're making assumptions about film (just the negatives, BTW not the developed film) based on cheap, consumer quality examples. I praise you for admitting that might be the case. That humility seems rare on the interwebs.
On the other hand, if you found such a camera, and it had a roll with a few exposures left, couldn't you just take pictures of yourself in front of a matte painting or in a Volume?
@@squirlmy Except that's not how "bit rot" works (or what it even is). In the case of data storage/retrieval, it's about the eventual inability utilize the physical media (or interface) or file format. Take the optical disc as an example. A "pressed" disc will last as long as the polycarbonate and aluminum alloy from which it's made (basically forever). Even burned discs will last for decades if properly stored.
But will a computer 50 years from now even have an optical drive? The laptop I'm writing on right now doesn't! And good luck opening some of the ridiculous closed-source proprietary file formats of the 1990's...
you are a chill dude i like your style
Indian here. Not sure where you're getting your Mahabharata information but time travel is, at best, incidental to the story. As an epic poem there are many side stories that do not affect the core narrative (which is simplistically a story about two warring sets of cousins). There do seem to be some stories that, at best, display some concept of relativism and the idea of different planes of existing having different rates of time. But there's definitely no time TRAVEL, at least no instances so integral to the plot that the Mahabharata could be described as a story ABOUT time travel.
The story contains an element that is common in SciFi time-travel stories that haven't really been thought through well. If you leave for another time, and spend three days there, there is no reason why it would be three days before you showed up in your own time again. That would be true if you went to Paris for three days, but not if you went to 2050 for three days, since you are then traveling between points in time, and can supposedly return to any such point.
Exactly. They make it out like returning two days later in 1958 is proof he spent two days in the future. Pretty dumb when you give it a second thought.
That's a very good point. Hmmm... 🤔
Even more so: if you time-travel via an Einsteinian closed time-like curve that happens to bend into the future (somehow), you _must_ return to the exact same point in time at which you left---or to some point _prior_ to that point.
Yeah, realistically you could be back the exact moment you left or anything really.
Unless there is a physical conservative aspect where you can not physically have time in future without also losing that time in the past
The most common way to explain the grandfather paradox is that on the moment you travel back the timeline splits into a different reality, a parallel universe, while keeping the original one intact. Both universes exist. One in which you were born, one in which you were not.
Or that there is no free will and you just can’t kill your grandfather
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@@dccisco9515 ye basically the harry potter way, everything that you intended to change in the past you have already changed and this is the outcome, before you ever go into the time machine. but all of these are really just fanfics with no scientific evidence. science just says you can't go back in time
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So basically the aliens trolled him an said hey wanna drop this guy in the future for fun. Yeah why not 😊
my name is zoe and 10:29 was the biggest jumpscare of my life
Question should be another: how the hell an average Soviet citizen could get his hands on a Japanese camera in 1950s?
international trade innit
@@寂び侘び-b6sYou’re talking the Soviet Union in the 1950’s. A totally different time, not to mention government.
@@DaynaE65 japan and russia (then ussr) are neighbours. trade between those countries always been common especially with minor goods who could easily tranported. would not be dificult one of those cameras end up in kiev.
Sailors. In the 1980s the Russian sailors would trade goods for western electronics.
@@GordonHudson this isn't about the 1980s, it's about the 1950s, and Japan isn't a western country. Not sure if you responded to the wrong comment/video.
AJ and Hecklefish covered this on the Why Files. It’s definitely a work of fiction for that Ukrainian show.
Argh why can’t I find it?
The Why Files is one of my favorites!
This sounds like it was ripped from TWF. 😬
@@TheTransporter007
Because it was. TH-cam is just recycled videos from people regurgitating each other's content.
@@TheTransporter007 Joe and AJ talk sometimes. I had a brief interaction with Joe on TMI asking him about AJ and the why files, and Joe actually told AJ about the interaction lol. They are both re-telling a story, so its really nobodies to "rip", and they both put their own twist and perspective, which I love to see.
Thanks for the video Joe!
Stuff like this is why I like to let people know that "nearly everything you think you know is just stuff other people told you and you believed based on their presentation."
Except no reasonable person would accept the given narrative without further corroborating evidence that these things did exist as portrayed. If you needed the woo woo alarm to recognize this story as likely false, you are begging to be swindled out of money and votes. And I clicked with an open mind, refusing to conflate improbable with impossible. The more mundane claims of life that we don't have time to fact check should always have a question mark paper clipped to them, an indication that uncertainty is higher than for more rigorously investigated claims, adjusting of course for prior plausibility.
Exactly! EVERYTHING! Right from the start of your life all the way through kindergarten, primary school, .... , university, and our own experience and perception.
@@cemmetje1987 realizing is how I really gained an open mind. People pushing their ideas like to complain about how closed my mind is when really they're just trying to dictate how things are. Literally anything can be possible and I don't have to believe in any of it! I just do with what I have.
@@TechnoL33Tbeing ‘open minded’ is all well and good, but without applying critical thinking, you run the risk of being manipulated and exploited.
healthy scepticism is much more valuable than being open minded.
@@mj.l yes, obviously. Did you not read the original comment, or are you here to just agree with me?
The alien be like : im really bored lets have some fun with this
A little detail puzzled me: the picture camera was a real object from the 1950s, but it was a Japanese machine. How likely was a young man in the Soviet Union in 1956 to have acquired a Japanese technological item? What is more, there was an extremely similar picture camera produced in the Soviet Union at that time, it was called "Любитель" (I happen to own one). Again, the film may not be produced anymore, but any photographer is able to develop it from an old camera.
The story is fake, took seconds looking it up..
this story is completely fiction - this can be seen from the handwriting in which the document is filled out. This is a document that a person is a member of a Komsomol organization.. This is not an identity document.
And most importantly, it is filled with clumsy handwriting - which is nonsense. People with a calligraphic handwriting were always selected to fill out documents. This immediately caught my eye - this is 100% fake.
@@thedbcooperforum They also say it within the first 10 mins of the video
Common Soviet guy owning a YashimaFlex in the 1950s is much more unlikely than time travel.
Time travel is possible. I do it every night. I go to bed, sleep, and time travel to the next day.
you are very silly...pun intended
Nice one 😂
I believe you, so am I, went back to the butchers that I had been to years before and travelled back and it's not there any more so I jumped on a bus and travelled forward.i checked my bus ticket which showed 3.31pm, travelled forward till the journey took its toll and I jumped off, had no idea where I was but looked at my watch and it was 4.03.i went home and my girlfriend asked "what time do you call this","you said 2 minutes and that was ages ago.
It's dangerous,it's not worth it
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If you are interested in a great time travel show I highly recommend Dark. It features several ways to deal with paradoxes, from the person actually causing the event they tried to avoid to people actively preventing or causing events so timeline doesn't loses it's course and everything in between.
Of course it's not perfect, but i don't know the first story you cannot poke holes in.
And the ending is so good, at least for me, *spoilers* because the time machine was built so efficiently that it never needed to be built.
I loved Dark too. One of my favorite series. I'm also obsessed with time travel 😊
Dark was really good. Only problem with it, they ended it weird. And sooner than anticipated
Also the show Futureman is really underrated. Plus it's a comedy.
Hello Cute Nerd ❤woo woo 😂
There are better shows with time traveling than Dark, lmao
There's also a story about an investor that earned millions then disappeared mysteriously. There's no record of him before making the initial investments or after disappearing.
link pls?
@@valinorean4816 I think Joe has a video about him
Imagine if he was actually abducted by aliens, taken to a distant star system and then brought back which caused the shift in time and the whole thing was real
How aliens avoid shifts in time on own planet then !?everytime they will be in other time when they will back on own planet ,they probably have some mechanism which protect them from that so if they travell 30min from own to our planet and back again time will stay same there same for them
Why Everyone believe aliens can time travel.... Theres no such thing as aliens.... And noone can time travel wtf 😂😂
@@trashboity8773are you just slow or did you miss where they said “IMAGINE” it’s called using your imagination lil dude
@trashboity8773 it technically possible since you can travel forward in time (relatively) to others by being next to a larger gravitational field. Like in interstellar.
We don't have to Imagine.
Stephen King utilizes the Billiard Ball model REALLY well in his novel 11/22/63, because when the main character travels back in time to stop Oswald from killing Kennedy, there are multiple moments where the main character is prevented from reaching that goal by seemingly unnatural forces (fate or bad luck, whatever you want to call it.) It’s described as if the past is resistant to change, its really interesting and it seems as if King had done his research before he wrote it
Thats not entirely true since in the end he manages to stop the killing yet it only turnt into a much darker future
@@Boost400 For some people, if you say that there would not have been some visionary future if only either of the Kennedy brothers had lived is a heresy. I don't think so. John Kennedy might have slowly morphed into a dated, even quaint figure. Robert Kennedy, if he had become president, would have presided over the same reforms and probably the same dragged-out ending of the Vietnam war as Nixon did. It would be only that these things would be looked at as great accomplishments.
Edward Kennedy did live. How did that work out? I have some personal sympathy for him, but as a political figure he was often wanting. He was loud but not always a thorough thinker.
@@anonymike8280 im talking about the 11.22.63 tv show, the main character eventually stops the assasinate but after going back to his timeline, he finds the world destroyed by a world war 3 so he goes back in time again and leaves the past as it is
@@Boost400 That's a decent plotline based on the time travel rules that existed in sci fi and speculative fiction in the Postwar era. The film _The Terminator_ blew up these rules and also Asimov's Law of Robots is a spectacular way.
The Terminator was released 39 years ago.
The law of online comments is this. You are allowed to agree or disagree with a previous comment, hold forth on the subject for the interest of anyone, amplify the issue or some part of it, or be outright5 discursive. "Discursive" is a ten-dollar word that means, change the subject.
My comment goes to the realm of amplification. You do know, something significant happened on 11.22.63 which has greatly affected how people think about the past. Right?
The universe made it futile by having multiple people shoot JFK
The only other time traveller story I know anything about is the case of John Titor. I briefly looked into it in 2006 and it seemed like quite a lot of people were convinced. There is a wikipedia page about John Titor.
John Titor actually already was kind of "officially" debunked too, and this is a poorer history by the way.
Unfortunately even the closest ones were proved to be fake.
It also interested me - especially the machine schematics and the little known fact about the IBM computer. Unfortunately it was apparently a well thought out hoax - well maybe, who knows. There is a more convincing example of someone who came back and used his knowledge to play the stock market and he made so much money that he was arrested for insider trading. Whatever he told the cops it convinced them enough to let him go- upon which he disappeared forever
isn't this the plot of steins;gate?
What about the man from toura
@@charlietaplin8761 yeah ok- him too
9:48 This reminds me of the idea from the show 11.22.63 that “the past pushes back” and tries to avoid being changed. How the first character tried to save a woman from an accident but things happened each time to delay him
Such a good show and novel
There are three different models I've read about.
1. Changing the past will change the events of the future cause things to not exist or disappear from existing
2. You can't change the path. Everything is meant to happen, and even if you try something, it will not let you or will cause the event to happen. If you are going back to change, it was always a part of the plan
3. When time travel was first used, it created alternate timelines. Everytime you time travel, you create different timelines that change based on the changes made.
Absolutely correct fam, round of applause for using brains. 🎉🎉🎉
@Wings Of Freedom Thanks man, I read about it in a phenomenal book called "Time Travel in Einstein's universe" by J. Richard Gott.
Ok.. I’ve been looking for clue whereabouts of time travel’s “ exist “ where is the time travel? Is it hidden under government’s bunker or what? A secret high school students making a time travel backpack device? 😅🤷🏻♂️ come on.. give me a tip! I might need to borrow on one thing I needed to do. That’s all I’m asking.. 🤷🏻♂️
@@askjake2426 Yes mate, I also wondered about time travel in the past but discarded the idea after researching about this topic. Time dilation can take place but not in the reverse. Also, time dilation needs to keep the matter intact otherwise what is the purpose anyway if you are going to be reduced to smithereens.
@Wings Of Freedom That is where things get dicey as There is no time dilation or notion of time defined at the speed of light.
Time dilation relates differences in coordinate time and proper time intervals. There is no such effect for light as “reference frame” is not defined for light.
Time dialation would be a property of our world and if we every traveled faast enough in theory we would be able to bend the space time and in doing so technically creating a "Bubble" of time" that exists outside of the Percievable universe and this is where things get weird because law of physics really start to fuck up when you move at the speed its so strange.
@10:40 Mahabharata is not about time travel. Its a huge epic mostly about duty, family, right and wrong and karma etc. It has small subplot(s) that deals in Time dilation I.e. time passing different for different observers and in different dimensions.
What he meant to say that the very first time travel story was recorded in Mahabharata where King Kakudmi went to meet Lord Brahma. He travelled from earth to his destination but as he met Brahma, a lot of years had been passed on earth
@@the_spider_lily911 True, however, that is case time dilation and not of time travel. The travel was at relativistic velocity and/r the location was in high gravity field leading to time dilation (ref: the planet around black hole in Interstellar). This is not time travel i.e. moving forward/backward in timeline in the current reference frame.
If I've learnt one thing over the last year or so of acquainting myself with Ukrainians online, it's that they have an amazing sense of humour and love a wind-up.
Sergei Ponomarenko is a famous Russian ice dancer, who skated with his wife and partner Marina Klimova. They won a gold medal in the Olympics in 1992, silver in 1988 and bronze in 1984. Busy guy, with all that time travel! 😂
Should be a different guy, the Russian dancer you’re talking about is actually from Khazahstan
@@natashawagner5708 nothing russians about him, even his surname is Ukrainian.
@@ravenglebsky9404 Well, that part is not an argument at all. People move around a lot, I'd say about 10% of Russia's last names end in -enko
Дуже сумний наслідок російського імперіалізму та насильної асиміляції🤷@@georgiykireev9678
Your ability to wow the audience and then completely rip it away and ruin the mood is impeccable
My theory is that if you were to go back in time to kill your grandfather, you would end up in a parallel version of your past. Therefore, if you killed your grandfather, it would only change that timeline, not the one you left from.
Or in other words the grandfather paradox extra points if you can figure out where this is from
Time travel is impossible, and there's no such thing as different timelines. These are just fictional ideas.
No it's real, you must be missing something bro
Ahh, yes, the Donnie Darko Theory of Spacetime. Very cool sci-fi concept, but literally just fiction.
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 We can't say for fact that alternate timelines do not exist. This is why the Multiverse theory exists.
This story seems eerily similar to one which came out of Japan, I think. A man turns up in an airport with a passport for a land that didn't exist. Authorities took him to a hotel for the night before they worked out what to do with him. Next morning he had disappeared from the room. No way out apart from the door which had been guarded the whole time. I think this is the inspiration for the Russian version.
Hm, they could've collected it for the show and rehash it for a new context.
The man from Tutor!
I grew suspicious when the story obviously was inspired partly by the 1951 short sci-fi story “I’m Scared" by Jack Finney about a time traveler by the name of Rudolph Fentz, and partly by the urban legend The Man From Tuared, which in fact has some truth in it, but it was a con man named John Zegrus (who consequently didn’t disappear from a locked hotel room but was sentenced to to one year in prison by the Tokyo District Court).
If i recall corretly there is also a story very simmilar to this one, down details like the guy disappearing when he enters his room and etc. The only differences are the fact that the guy had an ID that looked nothing like any ID from across the world, he was from a country that didn't exist and the story took place in Japan. 😂
@@alanwatts8239 Yes, that’s the urban legend ”The Man From Tuared” that I mentioned in the OP.
It has some grain of truth in in it, however the time traveling part of the story is entirely fabricated.
@@Legionmint7091 That's right! Thank you for that information. I was breaking my head trying to remember what the countries name was.
@@alanwatts8239 You’re welcome.
@@Legionmint7091 What was the point of the con? What possible gain was there? lol
The act of going back in time creates a timeline in which you arrived from the future so anything you do would not affect where you came from.
Like if you go back in time and kill your grandfather, it would have no effect on you because the act of going back in time in and of itself changes the past. So it's not really your grandfather that you're killing, it's the grandfather of someone that doesn't exist. The future would then progress randomly as it does because everything after the point you arrived hasn't happened yet. Another example would be if you went back in time by a year, went to where you were a year ago then cut off your past self's hand. Your hand wouldn't just disappear because that's not you, it's a version of you living in a time where someone came from the future to cut off their hand.
If you take something from room A and put it in room B, you can't affect that object from room A because it's not there anymore. If you stay in the now empty room A then go back to the point in time when it was in room A and destroy it, it's not the same object because you never destroyed it in room A, you came from a room in which the object was moved to room B.
This and The Why Files constantly toy with my emotions lol. For the first half I’m stunned and excited by what I’m watching and hearing and the second half takes all that and brutally tears it down and breaks my heart 😢. Still, every time you upload something like this I’m front and center to watch and be fascinated Joe. I wouldn’t have it any other way tbh 😊
Fear the Crabcat! You're so right! I really get drawn in by these kind of stories only to be shot down in flames as they are debunked! What an anti climax!
@Kevin P. Nah bro! You really think so?!
I love when they tear it down and debunk things, personally. When I was a kid, I loved believing in urban legends and ghost stories and stuff. As an adult, I still love them, but like science even more.
@@asherplatts6253 Not everything can be torn down though! Bigfoot- (pauses for inevitable laughter) UFO's, Cryptids. The list goes on and on!
Ya he’s the guy who tells the 6 year old Santa isn’t real.
Damn it Joe! Give me a dream and shatter it! You did a great job "sincerely" selling the story, and your plot shift was awesome. Great video, but gosh darn it!!!!!!
the doctor immediately coming up with a sciency-sounding explanation is what really tipped me off, it doesn’t seem like a natural reaction but it’s exactly the kind of thing random weirdos they bring on ancient aliens type stuff say
yeah. Most psychiatrists would just give the guy meds and not think about it.
@@morpher44 and a real doctor would never have took his camera from him and developed the film.
@@notmenotme614 Doctors are people too. If presented with such otherwise compelling evidence, I think anyone with the smallest amount of curiosity would have the film developed. Just in case.
@@JB52520 That’s true, but it would be a hell of coincidence that he himself has a keen interest in photography, to the point he’d recognize an antique from the 50s, and know a dude who can develop an old film that no one else can… The story would’ve been more convincing if it was the police that used their ressources to find someone, but it does make the story cooler if it’s the doctor 😂
@@minisn3066 Most old film can be developed, especially black and white. I don't think Kodachrome can be processed any more except possibly as black and white. In any case the results will be poor but possibly recognizable. Perfect for UFO pictures!
OMG! I remember watching this on TV!! Yes, I can confirm that the program is 100% entertainment. Some episodes were inspired by urban legends, some by literary works and a couple were original. These paranormal mockumentary-type series were pretty popular back in the 2000-s to 2010-s. The channel that made this one (1+1) is the most popular channel nationwide and produces a lot of original content.
i wanna watch all the episodes so bad 😭
Ukrainian Black Mirror
I watched it with my mom when I was a kid and I remember some alien cgi giving me nightmares, but other than that, pretty entertaining😅
Is it available online?
where can i find it please
If you were a time traveler and realized someone might be close to finding out, wouldn’t you want to go back in time and either change the evidence to make it look fictional and or fake?
I like this one
No. Why would I be worried about people finding out? I'd tell the whole world, it would be the greatest scientific discovery of all time
Yeah because if a group of men show up at my house several days later with guns, I’m not gonna have a fun time as opposed to just holding my discovery secret.
Bro Broke the canon event 💀💀
Time travel in past will not allow u to alter
In Soviet Union, you do not manipulate spacetime, spacetime manipulates YOU!
It's good to know that Kiev is rebuilt after the current war and has skyscrapers. Thanks for the good news, Sergei. Now we have hope.
Call from the Finnair pilots just landing our plane in Leningrad in 1989: “we have just landed at Pulkovo airport, don’t forget to turn your clocks back 50 years …”
Crazy that they're going to build a replica of the empire state building amidst the other skyscrapers😂
There's a life-sized Bruce Lee statue in Bosnia-Herznagovia from 2005. Who would have predicted that? And onion-domed buildings are cliched, a variation would be nice!😉
Heck, I'm just happy to hear that the Russia-Ukraine war is over by 2050
I don't think Kyiv, nor any city would look this way in 2050. It looks like urban planning hell to any civil engineer and skyscrapers themselves have more or less were already brought to their zenith in '80s. The only super skyscrapers being built today are usually based on insane egotistical plans cooked up by dictator rolling in petroleum money. And these projects have and are taking up to 20 years or more to complete. Some stalled in hiatus without a single hardhat being near them for years.
Now we have to wait 25 years to meet him
That Sergei lost 50 years of his life wasn't the most astonishing part. Had the spaceship existed and been fast enough, it follows mathematical models. That he somehow returned back to his original time was the most unlikely part.
Yeah, because the UFOs they use exactly same tech and mathematical models as our backward tech society...🤣
@@adrianstere watch your mouth boi
My parents were once driving through a desertic area in Morocco, in a completely flat area with no bushes or anything. Just endless dry, rocky area. They found 2 young boys with backpacks walking, now Morocco is a poor country and there are many kids who walk dozens of kilometers to school. They stopped the car to give them a water bottle. As they exited the car, the 2 boys were GONE. They had vaporized or something, my parents are not superstitious or anything, but they are both clueless as to how they managed to disappear just like that. Funnily enough this was also in 2006-ish.
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It could be a time slip. Look it up and you'll probably find it quite interesting.
Spooky fish 🐠
Thanks for the video. I'll be honest - as Ukrainian, I wasn't very surprised by the truth, because I do remember from my childhood the fact that our television has various shows that can be about things like this 😂
True) STB and 1+1 had a lot of those shows with theories like "aliens built the pyramids". I wouldn't consider it an 'investigation". It's more like science fiction)
Great video! Have considered the issue for quite some time. I speculate that as soon as an individual (call it "X") reaches the past, a brand-new alternate universe deviates from ours, in a manner by which "X" could kill any of his/her ancestor(s), since it would not impact his/her original universe, which would go on - unmolested - immediately after "X's" departure.
There has never been any story related to time travel in Mahabharata. Though one could say that there is a clear mention of time flowing differently in 'svarg' (heaven) and earth and has implications on some side story like of King Muchukund. BTW you are awesome. Have learnt so much from you. You are the best.
Maybe not time travel, but definitely reincarnation or cyclical time.
looks like you are more into space and science stuff
I was thinking the same.
Thank you for clarifying for all who are not acquainted with the epic 🎉
Well wherever I got that from may have been mistaken and then I passed it on.
The Billiard Ball Model is literally the Doctor Who model of time travel. Basically, insignificant changes can be made but if you try to change major events, the timeline will just correct itself to have it play out anyway.
FIXED POINTS IN TIME! CANON EVENTS!!!!!!! WIBBLY WOBBLY!!!!!!!!!
Same thing happens in Stephen King's 11/22/63, highly recommended read.
Kind of like the movies Final Destination. You can't change things and you can't cheat death.
No offense to anyone religious, but I did have the thought not too long ago, that if you were to go back and eliminate Saul of Tarsus, later Saint Paul, the whole of Western civilization would be impacted most directly, no doubt with ripple effects around the globe. The whole scripture would be changed, absent his letters, and perhaps a Gnostic version of Christianity would have become dominant
I traveled over 16 minutes into the future while watching this. Amazing.
I think not being able to change the past isn't determinism as it is normally, just that what HAS happened WILL have happened. The future is in a constant state of flux and can change, but the past has been set by what has already occurred, your ability to affect it restricted by the circumstances of your departure to the past in the first place. You could possibly change something you had no knowledge of, but could never affect things you do. In the present you operate by the present's rules, but the past operates differently.
My favorite time travel story is _Palimpsest_ by Charles Stross. It takes all the concepts of causality, paradoxes and plot holes SF nerds love to argue about and flips them sideways. The story throws away nearly all the 'rules' and ends up making a lot more sense without them.
Oooo, this sounds right up my alley. Is it a book?
This is kind of dumb, but 'palimpsest' is one of my favorite words. I had never heard it until the Canadian prog/math-metal band, Protest the Hero, released an incredible album a few years ago by the same name. Each song is an interpretation of an actual historical event or person, like the Boston molasses incident or Amelia Earhart. (Incidentally, PtH is the only metal band worth listening to, haha.) Then I recently learned about religious-type artifacts like vellum documents being found and misunderstood by laypeople because they're palimpsests from different authors and/or time frames.
ANYHOOOO...
Luh-HUV Charlie Stross!
@@MikeP2055 if you like that, try giving a listen to Sabaton.
All of their songs are about historical events, wars, and battles
im gonna be completely honest, i have no idea why Street Fighter nerds would care that much about time travel...now the Mortal Kombat kommunity on the other hand...
I read Singularity Sky of his, which did very interesting take on FTL and breaking causality.
You say Palimsest is good? Hm..
Joe, I'd love to see you do a collab with "The Why Files", you two seem like minded and have a similarly engaging way of telling stories!
He too has done some very interesting videos on time travel 🤯
Yep. TWF covered this very story a few weeks ago.
I like both channels. They may cover similar stuff but different style production and humor etc. But hecklefish roasting Joe would be awesome lol.
They're two of my favorite channels. They think similar, although have a different approach, both enjoyable.
YES PLEASE. Love both channels, and both go into the skeptical point of view in the end
everyone is trying to ride that algo
soon as AJ uploads all these idfiots rip off his material & up the same video
WHATS FUNNY is AJ has PURPOSELY put an easter egg red herring into several vids - cos he knows ^^^ these divvys will go with it hook line sinker & subscription to Angling Times
I believe "Time travel" is actually Quantum tunneling
Physicist here. While I highly doubt we'd ever get the technology for it in the sense that SciFi movies portray, one condition of time travel thats eems to come from general relativity may be that you can only travel 'back' in time to the point of a closed curve, such that once the time machine is made you would suddenly be able to see time travellers if it worked, but before the point of time machine invention it would be impossible to see any time travellers.
Didn’t you guys make the Thor hammer?
How and were are you going to tunnel to in past if you do not know were to go in past.Our body can not take time travel we do not know were to begin on even mapping out time prints.
You would need an energy finger prints of that time with the time unique print so that your machine can connect to that times energy id so it can build a tunnel but we can not do that.time travel is real but in the movies.
@@ghostbombl8034 Honestly I don't know, but maybe if you jumped or tunneled to the 'future' a memory map or fingerprint would still be available for the past.
It cant just be me that remembers a sifferent version of this?? It was a guy checking in to some government security, or an airport, and his passport said he was from a place between france and another place which didnt exist, the security didnt know what to do with him so they just asked him to go be in a hotel or let him go and he went to one, but then like this version he went into his room and dissappeared without a trace, not out as the hotel was 5 stories tall, and not out from the normal way. Nothing. Interesting...
I typically don't get goosebumps or chills listening to stories but just like Mr. Ballen's entire youtube channel this story got to me.
Plus woo woo alarm PTSD. 😬😂
Ooh a fellow ballen 😅
Ballen has a certain on-screen charisma, but he's a hack with dubious academic credentials
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes he can tell a good camp fire story.
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes ya ballen doesn't grab me like this one and The Why Files, but to each their own.
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes I don't think it's fair to call him a hack. He's just trying to entertain people with fun stories. Yeah, a lot of them are probably BS, but whatever.
Hey Joe, I found your video today while browsing youtube. Your episode is great. Still I just want to correct you in one part. I am an Indian, so we knew a bit more about Mahabharata. It is an epic in Sanskrit. But it is not at all a story about time travel. This Epic has multiple layers with a huge number of characters. The plot line of this epic was about ancient Indian politics, sociology and war strategy and more over it a kind of motivate us with a tag line something like "Do your duty no matter even if you have to stand against your family. Stand for the principles and values , not for family. And God will be with you." But I do understand why this mistake was done. Indian ancient Puranas (text or scripts) are kind of series or spin-off stories attached to each other. For more than thousand years ancient Rishis (monks) wrote them. So some of the characters cross-merged with each other with the time and the believe in that time. So there was a character in Mahabharata named Krishna, who is also believed an Avatar of Hindu God Vishnu, his elder brother was Balarama. Now Balarama's wife Revati is said to be a time traveler. But there is no direct reference of Revati in Mahabharata. If I am not much wrong, even in mahabharata it was not even told that Balarama had a wife! This reference comes from some other ancient Sanskrit text. Good day buddy.
I was about to say this.
I appreciate you posting this because I thought I had really missed something in my reading of, and about, that wonderful epic.
I largely agree with your comment on this matter. However, there exists a distinct interpretation of the Mahabharata that discusses the intricacies of determinism and Karma (and their paradox). This interpretation, while not central to the epic battle or explicitly outlined in the moral directives, finds its roots in the Vedas, the essence of which is encapsulated in the Mahabharata. It introduces a paradox wherein God's divine plan operates beyond the confines of linear time, and yet the actions (karma) of individuals shape the course of events. In essence, there is a simultaneous existence of a preordained divine plan and a malleability influenced by human actions. This implies that although everything is metaphorically "written" in the grand scheme, individuals in society are contingent upon the deterministic unfolding of events that determine the repercussions of their actions. In the Mahabharata, Krishna orchestrates events with omniscient knowledge, yet the Pandavas and Kauravas exercise their free will. It's not a matter of time-travel, but rather a contemplation of determinist paradox, i.e., how actions unfold in a seemingly inevitable manner.
THANK YOU. Perfect example of just how easy it is to sell a story today and have people readily believe it, no matter how ludicrous.
Like the religions 😂
@@pastimerascals6227 Not as crazy as believing something came from nothing
@@biuliu7157 Exactly, some stupid claim that God came from nothing
@@pastimerascals6227 But why was the comparison necessary?
hey man some of us are just full of child like whimsy and curiosity and goddamn we want magic and time travel to be real
2:47 how is that a bell shape, it looks like a curled-up cat lmao
I love time travel stories ever since I read a (I think) East German sci-fi book as a child. It was called "Lost in times" (roughly translated). It was about a man who built a time machine and travelled back to medieval times where he tried to bring the people electricity, but obviously it went very poorly and he never made it back to his time. Meanwhile his friend wondered where he had gone and investigated his disappearance in modern times where he ultimately found old papers in the town hall written by his friend hundred of years ago and hidden in the walls, before his death.
The story scared me so much 😅 i have only read it once, bout 17 years ago, but I never forgot about it.
That book is very similar to one of Mark Twain’s novels “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”
Reminds me of Timeline by Michael Crichton
Thanks Joe and team for another great video.
What a treat.
This was easily your best ad transition ever, it was honestly so breathtakingly subtle, and earnest! I know good ad transitions are hard to write and hard to put on camera, unless you really believe in the product. And I believed you about Brilliant.
Bravo!
I didn't even realize I was watching an ad till it was almost done.😅
my dad just told me to chek this chanel out and i must say its good
_Always_ entertaining!
To Joe and whomever else makes this channel function, thank you kindly! I never tire of this show.
This happened to me and my mate, walking across a graveyard and a odd looking guy dressed from the 50's/60's was stood flashing photos on a old camera with a sheet over his head and a old postman's push bike against a tree. We walked past him and made eye contact, he looked at us confused as we did. We walked 5 meters and turned around and he had vanished.
Ghost or time traveler
Time slip.
I had a similar instance in a schoolyard in Orange, Connecticut on a Sunday while walking my dog. My dog and I heard voices but saw nobody. My father, who was waiting in the car and a jogger, who was standing by the car window, both asked me who the guy with the 17th century type clothing was who was walking alongside me. I didn't see anyone but heard the voices.
time travel
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I recall an old story how an immersive 'time froze' an examp;e I think is allegedly a couple near England was strolling about the Roman Ruins in a daze they heard a flash and BANG! Insantly, the world grew night whereupon legions of Rome troops marched the streets. Fun fact: they apparently were ina 'pocket' time whereupon time is frozen and the place is so concentrated the 'past' is in a loop frozen and materializes. I heard this from other accounts.
Fun stuff
9:50 I had this exact idea for how time travel would actually consistently work for a movie a couple of years back; basically it would revolve around trying to travel back in time to stop a war, but you need to be skilled enough to make it such that the likelihood of you failing is less than the likelihood your entire life was a lie and you had lived in VR until the point of return
These people were actors
That’s the show Outlander
If someone jumps back in time, the life of person jumping back also rewinds back. Think of it as jumping to a section of a video. Every event of your life has a time component.
The best explanation for time travel I’ve heard was that you cannot travel before the invention of the Time Machine. So when the Time Machine is invented from that point forward in time you can access, and back but not before the creation of it.
Ah yeah... And that story was BS, just like pretty much everything on the time travel. Though it stuck with you which means those advertisers that used that space for commercials in that show got their moneys worth. Because you remembered it subconsciously for the rest of your life. And that is exactly what they wanted from you...
@@korana6308 it was from a philosopher in a book… everything I stated was hypothetical… feel like whatever anger your dealing with is misplaced. Touch grass, lift some iron, get off the free dopamine brick. It helps wonders. Cheers!😎☀️
This is true but supposedly this guy didn’t time travel via a time travel machine. He travelled at the speed of light through some alien spacecraft and came back.
You can if your consciousness travel (not the physical body) many people have this capacity and some are using them in governments. However, time is not like something written in the stone. You can have a vision of the future event and because of several factors (one the most important being that we have free will to change our minds) the vision can play out differently.