+dashercronin Yeah no shit!! These Thorium reactors would allow us all over the world to have clean energy. Fucking douchebag countries all over the world trashing this planet. Look at China that place is fucking toxic gumbo waste land. America gets 68% of its energy from coal... dumping massive amounts of mercury into our oceans and poisoning our fish. My local city just dumped 15 million gallons of raw sewage into our oceans here in the USA. All this money and no one wants sustainable clean energy. America spends more on the military than all the other countries combined (over 600 billion a year). This shit really pisses me off that we already had this technology being developed over 40 years ago, but they canceled the research, because the waste wasn't good enough for nuclear bombs!!! Fuck you!!
Uranium itself isn't /that/ rare at 2.5 grams per ton of soil it's almost twice as common as tin is in the soil and on par with Bromine and Boron. The problem is Uranium's most common isotope is U-238. U-235 is what we are looking for for fuel and there is .018 grams per ton of soil of U-235 in an average soil sample. This is actually slightly more than 3 times as common as platinum (.005 grams per ton) and 9 times as common as gold (.002 grams per ton). Thorium IS 4x as common at 10 grams per ton of soil. As you've said, Thorium's biggest advantage is that it is tied heavily to "rare earth elements" like Neodymium. Neodymium being extremely valuable to wind and solar power production, in addition to the other rare earths. Being tied to that, it's already a waste product of rare earth mining. More importantly, it's also economically viable to separate it from coal mines, iron mines, uranium mines, etc SO LONG AS you have a use for it such as in a LFTR. Thorium shows great promise and I can't wait for LFTR to take off, but in the near term, a Molten Salt Reactor in waste burner configuration represents the best hope for nuclear in the immediate near term. There are far less steps to go through to get certification because Oak Ridge already proved the MSR concept in it's 20,000hrs of operation. Once widespread commercial use of MSR waste burners takes hold, adding the thorium fuel cycle is only a minor hurdle away in the chemical reprocessing department.
India is leading the way and all the other countries should follow. We should get rid of the uranium fission reactors and build thorium salt reactors instead. This would help clean-up the toxic nuclear waste created the by the uranium nuclear reactors. We should also get rid of giant power grid and locate many thorium salt reactors spread out across the country.
@@michaeli5884 solar needs expensive battery backup and is not reliable, thorium doesn't need to be mined hard. its easily available on grains of sand where its present . also very tiny nuclear waste unlike uranium which is very toxic
@@michaeli5884 zero waste solar? What do we do with damaged panels? We still need oil to even make solar panels. The you would need 20,000+ sqr miles to even power the US and it can't even do that consistently as it produces too much energy during the brightest part of the day and can't do squat when the sun is gone.
@JR Nair Yeah you. As far as good governance comes India currently is at the top. In terms of Bureaucracy we are also at the top... which is a bad thing. But government cannot do much about Bureaucrats they are above the system. But we will get rid of them eventually. Also I hate pessimists like you
@@giorgiocooper9023 in reality we have to and not only environmentalist but also some conventional politician who proclaim this as waste of money and stand in against of such projects
@@naveenarora6467 u never build building without laborers. It funny people think our extremely qualified politicians are better than our illiterate bureaucrats . Lol. No politician want fair elections tn sheshan (ias ) made it possible. Politicians make policies bureaucrats implement them . Its funny how brain washed people are.
USA has massive reserves of uranium that's why it lacks the will or urgent need to create complex fast breeders reactors but that is not the case with India which lacks huge uranium reserves thus fast breeders are our only hope as getting uranium imported is quite challenging...
India is currently most advanced in this field and i hope it maintain this lead..already the design of AHWR is ready for the reactor ..called as the one of the safest reactor in the world
+Robert Weekes Actually, I caught that. He knew that the correct term was "energy density", but that is over most people's heads. He was AIMING it for the layman, it seemed to me. The capacity factor is energy density. Nuclear of all kinds has one million times the energy density of coal or oil. One KG of Thorium, for example, has 1,000,000 times as much energy available as coal or oil - if you know develop the technology to use it.
@@stevegarcia3731 That energy is released when its nucleus breaks not when it is burned with oxygen. Even carbon will release a lot of energy if its atom and helium atom is fused to form oxygen. A nuclear reaction will always release or absorb several orders of magnitude higher energy than in a chemical reaction. So their energy densities can't be directly compared although you can specify that practically the energy we can extract from Uranium is 1,000,000 times higher than what we can from coal.
*INDIA's first Indigeniously developed Thorium prototype fast breeder reactor is expected to reach criticality in 2019* We will succeed soon. *Hail INDIA Hail INDIAN Scientists*
YES you are 100% correct sir! Thorium will save humanity form exterminating itself and give us a real chance at space travel. It will take global shift in mentality but It can and MUST happen!
that sounds great! but unfortunately...capitalism if far more powerful than any nuclear device...so there is a good chance it will not save the world..if by chance,it is given the opportunity,it likely will not be for some time and is irrelevant to us..what a time to be alive..
India is a leader of thorium based research. It is also by far the most committed nation as far as the use of thorium fuel is concerned, and no other country has done as much neutron physics work on thorium. The country published about twice the number of papers on thorium as its nearest competitors during each of the years from 2002 to 2006. Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) had the highest number of publications in the thorium area, across all research institutions in the world during the period 1982-2004. Analysis shows that majority of the authors involved in thorium research publications appear to be from India. According to Siegfried Hecker, a former director (1986-1997) of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the United States, "India has the most technically ambitious and innovative nuclear energy programme in the world. The extent and functionality of its nuclear experimental facilities are matched only by those in Russia and are far ahead of what is left in the US."
This is really great - thank you for your comment ! I am a big fan of Th based nuclear energy and I am very curious about any updates regarding the actual development of working Th based reactors in India. Thank you !
Our great scientists must shed light over this thorium utility program and bring this in the PM's knowledge so that it could be developed further. Why all r keeping mum ? please inform our great PM ji about this and start the work.
Great talk. Good topic. The Molten Salt Reactor (MSR) is a neglected beauty that should have been commercialized. But during the cold war, there was no interest in a power plant that didn't also make bomb materials. Now we need nuclear power to solve climate collapse and prevent the millions of deaths caused eacy year by coal and diesel pollution. And the LWR isn't cheap enough to grow fast. MSR is 10x better in 5 different ways, as Mr. Bannerjee points out.
There is no use of using thorium Reactors for producing energy for automobiles.Electric cars are already being produced by tesla and it will viable to use thorium for production of electricity only..
U guys are excluding E-Autorickshaws that r being built by Exide. 😂 It is good but sounds funny. Imagine thorium Rickshaws😂😂😂 damn. Also I'd rather the idea be applied to trains busses, planes, rockets, etc. As u know u cant connect most of them to grid. And todays batteries are just too heavy and inefficient.
I already have an electric car and next year my building will be 100% electric. No more fossil fuels. My building is going to produce more energy than it or my car consumes.
@Stephen Bennett That is a myth. In the West, coal is used for less than a third of power production. In the US, it is in the high 20% range. My local grid has a lot of coal, but even it it were 100% coal, a BEV is still cleaner than all but the very most efficient hybrids (like the Prius). As I said, I plan to install enough solar to cover all my energy needs.
@Stephen Bennett Even with burning coal to produce electricity an electric car wins over a gasoline car hands down. Of course, as the electric grid gets cleaner, the advantage grows even more.
Well, if the US / Canadian oil conglomerate continues to crush this technology and its nascent development in North America, then we'd all just better learn to speak Hindi and Mandarin... 'cause all of us will eventually work for them...
Several of these new nuclear start up companies are going to Canada because they have a much better regulatory system in regards to new reactor design. Moltex from the UK and Terrestrial Energy from the US. Other US companies have gone to Indonesia, and China, all giving up on the US because of regulations.
@@Cyberplayer5 Actually it does, just not aggressive enough on the advanced nuclear front. We are replacing coal with natural gas and helping many other nations do the same with LNG. We are moving forward with advanced nuclear, (which will replace natural gas) but at a pace that other countries are passing us by. It's a real shame, this market is vast.
@@chapter4travels Yes that is really what I'm getting at the Energy Policy we've had in the past was sufficient to the level of Technology and Economics of the time. Now however we are playing catch up really badly. It would not hurt to have more scientist and engineering people informing politicians and running for office too.
last night my friends were discussing this very subject. I spoke about thorium, one knew of it, one did not. the one that knew believed that there was still too much money in oil, until oil is no longer relevant the government of the countries who have the oil will not invest in the tech. not sure how true that is but surprised to hear India had a working reactor, I knew that they had one in the U.S. for around 50 years, but the U.S. was sitting on huge amounts of oil, coal and gas. they also vested interest in selling the old nuclear concept. so no development. What surprised me though, was China, who went to the U.S. and took the concept and are also investing heavily in the development of this tech. with advanced solar, energy storage, new tech I think we are moving to a much better place globally.
India is a leader of thorium based research. It is also by far the most committed nation as far as the use of thorium fuel is concerned, and no other country has done as much neutron physics work on thorium. The country published about twice the number of papers on thorium as its nearest competitors during each of the years from 2002 to 2006. Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) had the highest number of publications in the thorium area, across all research institutions in the world during the period 1982-2004. Analysis shows that majority of the authors involved in thorium research publications appear to be from India. According to Siegfried Hecker, a former director (1986-1997) of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the United States, "India has the most technically ambitious and innovative nuclear energy programme in the world. The extent and functionality of its nuclear experimental facilities are matched only by those in Russia and are far ahead of what is left in the US."
Nuclear power is not the huge hazard it once was. Plus, it's very clean (no carbon emissions) and very powerful. France gets most of their energy from nuclear, no problems, because they aren't idiots like the US who use the old-fashioned reactors.
yeah, with reactors, they generally wanna squeeze out all the money you can get. ..so they extend the permits. nuclear ain't cheap to build.. . it's a many decades long investment. plus, old fashioned is not necesarily a problem. of course it's not optimal, but there are more than 20 reactors like the ones in chernobyl stil in operation - but with heavily updated safety systems and rules
My Daddy always talk about thorium . In his college life and my college life . But no 1 interested in there conversation because . It's too long time 2 generate power . And no powerful plant any where . But still dady dreaming about this kind of thought .
Right winger governments mean environmental destruction. I love Canada and am citizen there and want to go back but I feel bad such a pristine country is becoming so damaged
+Mustafa M So how many left wingers are building dome homes or doing so many other modes of energy conservation, to avoid using the energy produced by the right wingers' environmental destruction ??? .....HYPOCRITES!
Canada is already working on a joint project with China to build these types of reactors. Justin Trudeau signed the final agreement and things will kick off in 2017 ;)
It does make you wonder why all reactors are not like this but I guess the answer is that it doesn't serve the military and their fancy, never used bombs. But I think that when India and China get on top of this technology the US and Europe will follow suit. So in that case I hope they get it sorted sooner rather than later.
+leechy91 "Decades later, the U.S. Deartment of Energy (which owns Oak Ridge) is slowly reawakening to Weinberg’s vision. But this time, rather than build a molten-salt reactor itself-the country currently lacks the political will and funding to do so-the U.S. is helping others. Fortune has learned that DOE plans to sign a 10-year collaboration agreement with China to help that country build at least one molten-salt machine within the next decade. And in a smaller development, Oak Ridge publicly announced in January that it will advise Terrestrial Energy, a privately held Canadian start-up, on development of a molten-salt reactor that draws on Weinberg designs and on the reactor scheme that briefly hatched at Oak Ridge after Weinberg left." --- from fortune.com/2015/02/02/doe-china-molten-salt-nuclear-reactor/
It's scoured all over the planet dude... Also you need so little to get sooo so much energy back that it doesn't even matter if you only have 1% of the entire planets thorium deposits.
Thorium gets transmuted into U233 in a fastbreeder reactor. First one is going critical as I write and produce 500 Megawatts. 30 such power stations are on anvil by 2030. India is progressing very rapidly.
+katiemilker Yes, it will save humanity. In MANY ways. They were only able to make one small prototype to prove the science and see what problems, if any, developed. That was, until Richard Nixon, for political reasons, shut down the project, which had cost essentially nothing compared to light water reactor research and fast breeder research. Scaling that prototype up is taking time. This is not 3D printing. They are working hard on it in India and China, and expect to have a decent sized one by about 2025 or so. But that is also kind of a prototype. Expect full scale ones (let's say 1 gigawatt) by 235 or so. Sorry, but things take time.
Steve Garcia I don't think we have time, this is one of the main reasons we need this technology now, I mean come on Tesla towers were over a hundred years ago, how long can we wait for progress.
You are so naive. You have no idea about the players in the game. 1. Fossil fuel lobbies 2. Petro-dollar Nexus 3. Corrupt political parties of India And lastly, Edward Snoden's almaa mater the CIA which assacinated 19 Nuclear Scientists and Homi J Babha, till date.
***** why is it not convienent? based on a few studies one can readily convert existing nuclear plants to lsr /msr en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor oakridge test reactor was actually successful perhaps the nuclear engineers should study their papers. it seems china will be attempting this in 2017 delayed from 2015 the fuji project has been lacking funding for a 100-200 reactor etc
Erik Lakeland Sir already we will be testing the stage 2 of this technology later in this year. If successful India is self sufficient to power the nation as India has largest thorium reserves in world. I hope we are successful because it's very irritating for us to listen the tantrums of Arabs..
This research has been around for decades, what is truly stopping clean energy is politics and greed. Till we can figure out how to take those two factors out of the discussion there is no hope.
US managed to Block development of thorium in india by signing Treaty also they force our govt to stop aid which is reserved for further development of thorium project .....its development was deliberately slow down by US and some European countries
If the US military comes to know that they can build miniature Thorium reactors to power the electric trucks, drones and tanks of the future, they wouldn't take it lightly. Uranium reactors can't be that miniaturised. The importance of Thorium reactors for space exploration is also underestimated.
We shit two aircraft carriers. One of our submarines are more capable of destruction than your entire military. Not my point. The last thing I want is for us to find out how bad it would get if we played that game...
Actually, the idea of thorium as a fuel is given by Homi J. Bhabha an Indian Scientist in the 1950s. Many people don't know that Indian's were always great at engineering, medical, trade, and technology. But we were ruined by colonization. We were the first to do plastic surgery in 2500 BC, we created some of the most astonishing architecture in the ancient world. Diamonds were only found in India before the 1800s. India,s GDP was 40% of the world in 1 AD. The biggest foolishness of our ancestors was they never thought of colonizing some country or developing weapons. Rulers came, looted and destroyed everything.
Congratulations India, get satisfied US companies and massive traditional energy companies will be left far, far behind with their profits dropping below Thorium plants and thereby enriching brave new pioneer investors and scientists who already know the LFTR Thorium design.
That's not TRUE - India has been operating a reactor with Thorium for sometime now... India NEEDS TO BUILD MORE - Molten Salt Reactors - the safest design which cannot have a catastrophic meltdown/Explosion!!!
So can we add a kind of low temperature molten lead heat ex-changer to it, like lead with bismuth ? Just like some reactors in Russian Submarines did so there is no radioactivity leaked through the heat-ex-changer provided the rest of the system is safe... This thorium reactor seems like the perfect candidate for being inherently more safe, I mean having a heat-ex-changer that shields all radiation would only make terms in safety if don't blow the lid of the boiling pot or let the furnace run to high underneath the cooking pot... So it requires lower temperature to melt this lead with bismuth and some other materials so is it possible to do that in terms of reactor temperature... If so that would be great and add another safety future, can we than also make a kind of passive system like some fridges that make hot gasses or liquids boil up to the condenser and cooler ones down and do this with the low temperature molten lead ? and use the water for the turbines instead of a condenser and that of course on the normal way but also a passive cooling system like a fridge that uses only heat to create cold ? like a passive heat pump or one without a mechanical pump ? Just like a system with a Tesla valve as a flow-back valve the steam not entering the cooled water down water from the condenser when it is in the reservoir before entering heating pipes.. So keeping the background power on on the power grid and then using over capacity of windmills on windy days and solar thermal and over capacity on very sunny days to make hydrogen and maybe power our cars with it or use the hydrogen like 5% till 10% percent hydrogen with a little methane for the flame color and some nitrogen to replace the natural gas that makes one part of our country sink down so we do need way less methane and use the over power of wind and solar to create a natural gas replacement and fuel for our cars... And this thorium reactor for background power, until we finally develop a fusion reactor...
Thorium may be a cleaner source of energy for the future but if a traditional distribution system is still used then the People of the world will still be under the control of the Elite. This is where Tesla was different from what Westinghouse and Edison have done, which is Tesla wanted the People to have Free Energy but Westinghouse and Edison had profit as their primary concern.
Very good vid! I'd like to hear more about this research! Please please come to Finland and show our idiots how this is done at once! We have been building one reactor now for at least 15 years but it never gets ready and two more will soon (irony) be built by Russian company Rosatom. Nothing happens.
as I was trying to search for any updates on the development of Th based LFTR reactors I found that China and India are each (or used to be ??) in the process of developing a pilot reactor based on Thorium but as far as I was able to find out last time - I didn't find any updates regarding their progress. I was wondering: does anyone know of any updates regarding these ? Thanks a lot ! and go Thorium !!!
The Energy needs are Growing and Thorium have potential in it, if Oil Companies are Intelligent they will Invest in this Technology, instead of trying to Suppress it.
I agree to a certain level, however the biggest threat is not humans but our habits to consume and consume and consume. The amount of wastage in the name of choice - from food to water to lighting buildings at night to mass air-conditioning , to plastics...and that list goes on and on.. All driven by consumption...keep things simple and half ( if not more) or the issues disappear..
Most of it is about spin. You give a thrust spin in a round ball of thorium using electric cables and an inner layer connection to an other ball of uranium or thorium of bigger size the energy potential in the inner coil can be trapped electricity. No energy loss extremely safe with no water except for cooling the coil spin and even air can be used to cool a little bit somewhat like fan and magnets. But theory. No fission involved.
Another thing that would be hugely beneficial, finding a safe way to utilize the nuclear waste as another backup type of energy instead of just adding to our huge stockpile of waste.
Nuclear reactors are just assumed to be the future of energy. But there is technology that is even more effective and efficient and completely green and of course the future. I'm working on it.
Safe, cheap nuclear power from Thorium molten salt reactors could mean the end of using hydrocarbon (fossil ) fuels. These are valuable raw materials in plastics manufacture, and should be conserved. It's like burning Teak ,or Oak in an open fire-- - short sighted.
Fossil fuels and Gasoline can be artificially manufactured but its just cheaper to drill for oil. Gasoline and oil is a inexhaustible energy source that comes from vegetation. Gasoline and oil is just another type of biofuel.
+Terrance Nygren No but they would help prevent new disasters and help clean up old stored fuel that is just waiting to leak out right now. The current decay time of spent fuel is thousands of years. The waste from thorium is about 100 years and the quantity of spent fuel left from the Throium would be far less since it uses up 99% of the fuel where our current reactors with solid fuel uses only about 1% and the rest is waste. It's easy to store fuel safely for 100 years compared to thousands of years because the material in the barrels break down.
Glad to see somebody is actually DOING something about developing Thorium power.
+dashercronin Yeah no shit!! These Thorium reactors would allow us all over the world to have clean energy. Fucking douchebag countries all over the world trashing this planet. Look at China that place is fucking toxic gumbo waste land. America gets 68% of its energy from coal... dumping massive amounts of mercury into our oceans and poisoning our fish. My local city just dumped 15 million gallons of raw sewage into our oceans here in the USA. All this money and no one wants sustainable clean energy. America spends more on the military than all the other countries combined (over 600 billion a year). This shit really pisses me off that we already had this technology being developed over 40 years ago, but they canceled the research, because the waste wasn't good enough for nuclear bombs!!! Fuck you!!
+SequelFinalNight
thank you!
+midnight_storm_(vǫrðr) Diamonds aren't rare. They get mined, warehoused and marketed as rare to sell to suckers.
there's is 4 times as much thorium as uranium in the rocks...
Uranium itself isn't /that/ rare at 2.5 grams per ton of soil it's almost twice as common as tin is in the soil and on par with Bromine and Boron. The problem is Uranium's most common isotope is U-238. U-235 is what we are looking for for fuel and there is .018 grams per ton of soil of U-235 in an average soil sample. This is actually slightly more than 3 times as common as platinum (.005 grams per ton) and 9 times as common as gold (.002 grams per ton).
Thorium IS 4x as common at 10 grams per ton of soil. As you've said, Thorium's biggest advantage is that it is tied heavily to "rare earth elements" like Neodymium. Neodymium being extremely valuable to wind and solar power production, in addition to the other rare earths. Being tied to that, it's already a waste product of rare earth mining. More importantly, it's also economically viable to separate it from coal mines, iron mines, uranium mines, etc SO LONG AS you have a use for it such as in a LFTR.
Thorium shows great promise and I can't wait for LFTR to take off, but in the near term, a Molten Salt Reactor in waste burner configuration represents the best hope for nuclear in the immediate near term. There are far less steps to go through to get certification because Oak Ridge already proved the MSR concept in it's 20,000hrs of operation. Once widespread commercial use of MSR waste burners takes hold, adding the thorium fuel cycle is only a minor hurdle away in the chemical reprocessing department.
India is leading the way and all the other countries should follow. We should get rid of the uranium fission reactors and build thorium salt reactors instead. This would help clean-up the toxic nuclear waste created the by the uranium nuclear reactors. We should also get rid of giant power grid and locate many thorium salt reactors spread out across the country.
Whats ever best at producing cheap,plentiful energy.
@@michaeli5884 solar needs expensive battery backup and is not reliable, thorium doesn't need to be mined hard. its easily available on grains of sand where its present . also very tiny nuclear waste unlike uranium which is very toxic
Thank u sir forur appreciation....From India
@@michaeli5884 Your comment is misguided
@@michaeli5884 zero waste solar? What do we do with damaged panels? We still need oil to even make solar panels. The you would need 20,000+ sqr miles to even power the US and it can't even do that consistently as it produces too much energy during the brightest part of the day and can't do squat when the sun is gone.
RIP Dr. Srikumar Banerjee
(April 25, 1946 - May 23, 2021)
India is far ahead of the USA in safe Energy Generation.
Russell Theisen ..... India doesn’t have to battle crazy green fanatics every step of the way !
@JR Nair Yeah you. As far as good governance comes India currently is at the top. In terms of Bureaucracy we are also at the top... which is a bad thing. But government cannot do much about Bureaucrats they are above the system. But we will get rid of them eventually. Also I hate pessimists like you
@@giorgiocooper9023 in reality we have to and not only environmentalist but also some conventional politician who proclaim this as waste of money and stand in against of such projects
@@naveenarora6467 u never build building without laborers. It funny people think our extremely qualified politicians are better than our illiterate bureaucrats . Lol. No politician want fair elections tn sheshan (ias ) made it possible. Politicians make policies bureaucrats implement them . Its funny how brain washed people are.
USA has massive reserves of uranium that's why it lacks the will or urgent need to create complex fast breeders reactors but that is not the case with India which lacks huge uranium reserves thus fast breeders are our only hope as getting uranium imported is quite challenging...
India show us the way!!! Love from America ❤️
@@AmanVerma-mf5ktI'm from future modi inaugurated fast breeder reactor 😎
India is currently most advanced in this field and i hope it maintain this lead..already the design of AHWR is ready for the reactor ..called as the one of the safest reactor in the world
Glad to see more people talking about thorium! I wish he defined capacity factor for the layman, but effective nonetheless. Good talk.
+Robert Weekes
Actually, I caught that. He knew that the correct term was "energy density", but that is over most people's heads. He was AIMING it for the layman, it seemed to me.
The capacity factor is energy density. Nuclear of all kinds has one million times the energy density of coal or oil. One KG of Thorium, for example, has 1,000,000 times as much energy available as coal or oil - if you know develop the technology to use it.
@@stevegarcia3731 That energy is released when its nucleus breaks not when it is burned with oxygen. Even carbon will release a lot of energy if its atom and helium atom is fused to form oxygen. A nuclear reaction will always release or absorb several orders of magnitude higher energy than in a chemical reaction. So their energy densities can't be directly compared although you can specify that practically the energy we can extract from Uranium is 1,000,000 times higher than what we can from coal.
@@yashwanthnm7755 we can 'develop' the tech to fuse oil, Co2,etc. Maybe in a milenia. Just thorium is much closer.
*INDIA's first Indigeniously developed Thorium prototype fast breeder reactor is expected to reach criticality in 2019*
We will succeed soon.
*Hail INDIA Hail INDIAN Scientists*
We already have breeder reactors to get most of the energy efficient reactors we need molten salt. Plus that meet super safe.
Where?
@@hopesy12u4 Kerala
India Rocks.... Jai Hind!!!
So how did it go??? Now is one year later! We are still not hearing about these inventions in mainstream "lying" media.
I never knew India had a working Stage 3 Thorium reactor in place!! This is phenomenal
Thorium is the future, it will save the world!
Spread the word!
YES you are 100% correct sir! Thorium will save humanity form exterminating itself and give us a real chance at space travel. It will take global shift in mentality but It can and MUST happen!
Thorium is not the future 4 renewable resources & nuclear fusion is the future
fusion energy is not here yet. thorium can be done now if they just switched over to it
Raj Barthe Now is the time where you give reason and evidence for your opinion, or else no one can take your comment seriously.
that sounds great! but unfortunately...capitalism if far more powerful than any nuclear device...so there is a good chance it will not save the world..if by chance,it is given the opportunity,it likely will not be for some time and is irrelevant to us..what a time to be alive..
Nuclear energy IS THE WAY forward for us Indians. I'm quite optimistic about Thorium based reactors.
@@sarahhess464 -- DOH!
Not very bright, are you Sarah? (not really a question)
I hope you can at least find that bridge you came from under.
India is a leader of thorium based research. It is also by far the most committed nation as far as the use of thorium fuel is concerned, and no other country has done as much neutron physics work on thorium. The country published about twice the number of papers on thorium as its nearest competitors during each of the years from 2002 to 2006. Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) had the highest number of publications in the thorium area, across all research institutions in the world during the period 1982-2004. Analysis shows that majority of the authors involved in thorium research publications appear to be from India. According to Siegfried Hecker, a former director (1986-1997) of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the United States, "India has the most technically ambitious and innovative nuclear energy programme in the world. The extent and functionality of its nuclear experimental facilities are matched only by those in Russia and are far ahead of what is left in the US."
This is really great - thank you for your comment ! I am a big fan of Th based nuclear energy and I am very curious about any updates regarding the actual development of working Th based reactors in India. Thank you !
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Our great scientists must shed light over this thorium utility program and bring this in the PM's knowledge so that it could be developed further. Why all r keeping mum ? please inform our great PM ji about this and start the work.
Best named element ever. Even before knowing it's potential it was named after the god of thunder. The god of power and electricity
Great talk. Good topic. The Molten Salt Reactor (MSR) is a neglected beauty that should have been commercialized. But during the cold war, there was no interest in a power plant that didn't also make bomb materials. Now we need nuclear power to solve climate collapse and prevent the millions of deaths caused eacy year by coal and diesel pollution. And the LWR isn't cheap enough to grow fast. MSR is 10x better in 5 different ways, as Mr. Bannerjee points out.
this is a wrong belief. Thorium also produces waste that can be used in nuclear bombs.
Nixon killed thorium in favor of uranium to breed plutonium for weapons.
@@Jeed92 Not as bad as Uranium though
I really like it when "old research papers" make it to the "breakthrough technology" stage.
Old is gold, indeed. :)
I feely Proud to be a hindu bramhin Bengali..... thanks mr. Banerjee
Wake up India and go full gear on Thorium Reactors, make Automobiles running on Thorium Fuel.
There is no use of using thorium Reactors for producing energy for automobiles.Electric cars are already being produced by tesla and it will viable to use thorium for production of electricity only..
@@hariprasaddebnath1870 not only Tesla Tata and Mahindra are also came up with tech demonstrators and Mahindra already released one model
@@hariprasaddebnath1870 in Andhra state electric cars already opened sale for public 'KIA motors' located in Andhra
U guys are excluding E-Autorickshaws that r being built by Exide. 😂 It is good but sounds funny. Imagine thorium Rickshaws😂😂😂 damn. Also I'd rather the idea be applied to trains busses, planes, rockets, etc. As u know u cant connect most of them to grid. And todays batteries are just too heavy and inefficient.
@@abhi89035 Kia not good battery problem, don't buy
If India does it, they will sell this technology around the world becoming rich in the process.
Indians has no greed... They always prefer to do the right things
lol you just placed a stereotype on over a billion people, and it's not true. If Indians weren't greedy they wouldn't be human…
Cipi SixZeroFour dont forget China, Canada...etc. there are many more informative videos on it, check out 'thorium remix 2011'
Coeleomic08 its mostly the politicians.
Wishful thinking
Really inspiring, make India great again!
Tried to share this video, but i was scare of the GAS companies!
I already have an electric car and next year my building will be 100% electric. No more fossil fuels. My building is going to produce more energy than it or my car consumes.
@Stephen Bennett That is a myth. In the West, coal is used for less than a third of power production. In the US, it is in the high 20% range. My local grid has a lot of coal, but even it it were 100% coal, a BEV is still cleaner than all but the very most efficient hybrids (like the Prius). As I said, I plan to install enough solar to cover all my energy needs.
@Stephen Bennett Even with burning coal to produce electricity an electric car wins over a gasoline car hands down. Of course, as the electric grid gets cleaner, the advantage grows even more.
It's big green that you need to fear!
RIP sir your dedication and hardwork for our country will be remembered. Jai hind
😞man why !
India ke Talent ka javab nahi.
He breathed his last on 23rd of May, 2021. Rest in peace...
Well, if the US / Canadian oil conglomerate continues to crush this technology and its nascent development in North America, then we'd all just better learn to speak Hindi and Mandarin... 'cause all of us will eventually work for them...
you should learn Hindi anyways, it's a beautiful language
Several of these new nuclear start up companies are going to Canada because they have a much better regulatory system in regards to new reactor design. Moltex from the UK and Terrestrial Energy from the US. Other US companies have gone to Indonesia, and China, all giving up on the US because of regulations.
@@chapter4travels Yeah the U.S does not have an Energy Policy that plans for the future.
@@Cyberplayer5 Actually it does, just not aggressive enough on the advanced nuclear front. We are replacing coal with natural gas and helping many other nations do the same with LNG. We are moving forward with advanced nuclear, (which will replace natural gas) but at a pace that other countries are passing us by. It's a real shame, this market is vast.
@@chapter4travels Yes that is really what I'm getting at the Energy Policy we've had in the past was sufficient to the level of Technology and Economics of the time. Now however we are playing catch up really badly. It would not hurt to have more scientist and engineering people informing politicians and running for office too.
wow...proud of u sir....my name is Suparno Banerjee and I too have a crush on physics 😆
last night my friends were discussing this very subject. I spoke about thorium, one knew of it, one did not. the one that knew believed that there was still too much money in oil, until oil is no longer relevant the government of the countries who have the oil will not invest in the tech.
not sure how true that is but surprised to hear India had a working reactor, I knew that they had one in the U.S. for around 50 years, but the U.S. was sitting on huge amounts of oil, coal and gas. they also vested interest in selling the old nuclear concept. so no development.
What surprised me though, was China, who went to the U.S. and took the concept and are also investing heavily in the development of this tech.
with advanced solar, energy storage, new tech I think we are moving to a much better place globally.
India is a leader of thorium based research. It is also by far the most committed nation as far as the use of thorium fuel is concerned, and no other country has done as much neutron physics work on thorium. The country published about twice the number of papers on thorium as its nearest competitors during each of the years from 2002 to 2006. Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) had the highest number of publications in the thorium area, across all research institutions in the world during the period 1982-2004. Analysis shows that majority of the authors involved in thorium research publications appear to be from India. According to Siegfried Hecker, a former director (1986-1997) of the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the United States, "India has the most technically ambitious and innovative nuclear energy programme in the world. The extent and functionality of its nuclear experimental facilities are matched only by those in Russia and are far ahead of what is left in the US."
Thorium fission is our only answer to replace completely nuclear power that is such a huge hazard.
+Dan Williams its fission not fusion.
Birender Singh Oops haha yeah, I meant fission. Fusion is a lot farther off.
+Birender Singh hindi me bataye
Nuclear power is not the huge hazard it once was.
Plus, it's very clean (no carbon emissions) and very powerful.
France gets most of their energy from nuclear, no problems,
because they aren't idiots like the US who use the old-fashioned reactors.
yeah, with reactors, they generally wanna squeeze out all the money you can get. ..so they extend the permits. nuclear ain't cheap to build.. . it's a many decades long investment.
plus, old fashioned is not necesarily a problem. of course it's not optimal, but there are more than 20 reactors like the ones in chernobyl stil in operation - but with heavily updated safety systems and rules
Le... me hearing with so much pride and interest...then comes chemistry class....and then it goes above my head
nice presentation sir hope thorium based power get ready in India to meet our energy needs ....
My Daddy always talk about thorium . In his college life and my college life . But no 1 interested in there conversation because . It's too long time 2 generate power . And no powerful plant any where . But still dady dreaming about this kind of thought .
The most impressive impact I received was from the photo of the whole world at night. Pretty damn clever I thought!
Mr. Banerjee, can you swing by Canada and show us how it's done. I think a thorium reactor would find a good home here. Please hurry.
Right winger governments mean environmental destruction. I love Canada and am citizen there and want to go back but I feel bad such a pristine country is becoming so damaged
I wish we used more nuclear in USA
+Mustafa M So how many left wingers are building dome homes or doing so many other modes of energy conservation, to avoid using the energy produced by the right wingers' environmental destruction ??? .....HYPOCRITES!
+Aaron de Boer Yes! Use process heat for Synfuels from tar-sands without burning N.G. for steam.
Canada is already working on a joint project with China to build these types of reactors. Justin Trudeau signed the final agreement and things will kick off in 2017 ;)
It does make you wonder why all reactors are not like this but I guess the answer is that it doesn't serve the military and their fancy, never used bombs. But I think that when India and China get on top of this technology the US and Europe will follow suit. So in that case I hope they get it sorted sooner rather than later.
+leechy91
"Decades later, the U.S. Deartment of Energy (which owns Oak Ridge) is slowly reawakening to Weinberg’s vision. But this time, rather than build a molten-salt reactor itself-the country currently lacks the political will and funding to do so-the U.S. is helping others.
Fortune has learned that DOE plans to sign a 10-year collaboration agreement with China to help that country build at least one molten-salt machine within the next decade. And in a smaller development, Oak Ridge publicly announced in January that it will advise Terrestrial Energy, a privately held Canadian start-up, on development of a molten-salt reactor that draws on Weinberg designs and on the reactor scheme that briefly hatched at Oak Ridge after Weinberg left." --- from fortune.com/2015/02/02/doe-china-molten-salt-nuclear-reactor/
GOOD VERY GOOD,MY DEAR ABANIJI PLS ALLOW US TO USE THORIUM AS A FUEL,PLS....SIR.
60% of world's thorium reserves is in India.
no only 25 %
And the other is in the USA.
World is full of Thorium...
It's scoured all over the planet dude... Also you need so little to get sooo so much energy back that it doesn't even matter if you only have 1% of the entire planets thorium deposits.
Thorium gets transmuted into U233 in a fastbreeder reactor. First one is going critical as I write and produce 500 Megawatts. 30 such power stations are on anvil by 2030. India is progressing very rapidly.
Let's build the reactors now, not in ten years, Now, this could literally save humanity.
+katiemilker
Yes, it will save humanity. In MANY ways.
They were only able to make one small prototype to prove the science and see what problems, if any, developed. That was, until Richard Nixon, for political reasons, shut down the project, which had cost essentially nothing compared to light water reactor research and fast breeder research.
Scaling that prototype up is taking time. This is not 3D printing. They are working hard on it in India and China, and expect to have a decent sized one by about 2025 or so. But that is also kind of a prototype. Expect full scale ones (let's say 1 gigawatt) by 235 or so. Sorry, but things take time.
Steve Garcia I don't think we have time, this is one of the main reasons we need this technology now, I mean come on Tesla towers were over a hundred years ago, how long can we wait for progress.
is to late...
katiemilker they are going to complete it soon
I like that Thorium can be converted & used in existing N. reactors
I think we will be able to do it by the end of 2016. And it will be huge game changer for the world.
Prakaash Bhutoria is 2018? And? :D
when you like the comment in 2018 :}
You are so naive. You have no idea about the players in the game.
1. Fossil fuel lobbies
2. Petro-dollar Nexus
3. Corrupt political parties of India
And lastly, Edward Snoden's almaa mater the CIA which assacinated 19 Nuclear Scientists and Homi J Babha, till date.
@@borivojetravica569 2021?
Great work sir..... Proud to b indian
Unfortunately it won't happen while there's still a lot of money to be made burning fossil fuels. I hope I'm wrong though.
*****
why is it not convienent?
based on a few studies
one can readily convert existing nuclear plants to lsr /msr
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor
oakridge test reactor was actually successful
perhaps the nuclear engineers should study their papers.
it seems china will be attempting this in 2017 delayed from 2015
the fuji project has been lacking funding for a 100-200 reactor
etc
+Bobo's Gonna Get Yi Dont worry it will happen in india ... we dont have the money to buy oil for billions of people ... lol
I wish India the best of luck in their thorium energy program.
Erik Lakeland Sir already we will be testing the stage 2 of this technology later in this year.
If successful India is self sufficient to power the nation as India has largest thorium reserves in world.
I hope we are successful because it's very irritating for us to listen the tantrums of Arabs..
the US is already threatening India not to use solar but India seems to be waiving the big middle finger at them. Hopefully India will lead the way.
Great Presentation sir.....proud to b indian
This research has been around for decades, what is truly stopping clean energy is politics and greed. Till we can figure out how to take those two factors out of the discussion there is no hope.
US managed to Block development of thorium in india by signing Treaty also they force our govt to stop aid which is reserved for further development of thorium project .....its development was deliberately slow down by US and some European countries
I would like to know more. Where can I find reliable sources?
But we let in all the Indian Help Desk employees as compensation.
Can you send me the article that mentions this???
If the US military comes to know that they can build miniature Thorium reactors to power the electric trucks, drones and tanks of the future, they wouldn't take it lightly. Uranium reactors can't be that miniaturised.
The importance of Thorium reactors for space exploration is also underestimated.
I'm afraid that "democracy" might come to India, if they endanger the stability of petro-dollar.
well said
+Justin edwin India is a nuclear power with ICBM missiles. 2 Aircraft Carriers. Come play Murica
We shit two aircraft carriers. One of our submarines are more capable of destruction than your entire military. Not my point. The last thing I want is for us to find out how bad it would get if we played that game...
+Justin edwin in addition our carriers are the largest in the world.
No mention of our submarines.
All my best friends are here!(they like the prospect of Thorium) (no one I know cares)
India is far ahead of the USA in safe energy generation. Hardwork for our contry
Actually, the idea of thorium as a fuel is given by Homi J. Bhabha an Indian Scientist in the 1950s. Many people don't know that Indian's were always great at engineering, medical, trade, and technology. But we were ruined by colonization. We were the first to do plastic surgery in 2500 BC, we created some of the most astonishing architecture in the ancient world. Diamonds were only found in India before the 1800s. India,s GDP was 40% of the world in 1 AD. The biggest foolishness of our ancestors was they never thought of colonizing some country or developing weapons. Rulers came, looted and destroyed everything.
Now that makes me a proud Indian!
Great news.
Great work 🇮🇳 🌏👍✌️👽
Congratulations India, get satisfied US companies and massive traditional energy companies will be left far, far behind with their profits dropping below Thorium plants and thereby enriching brave new pioneer investors and scientists who already know the LFTR Thorium design.
Has been hearing about this since childhood..... India still didnt even operationalise the plant it was suppose to and had postpone it further .
That's not TRUE - India has been operating a reactor with Thorium for sometime now...
India NEEDS TO BUILD MORE - Molten Salt Reactors - the safest design which cannot have a catastrophic meltdown/Explosion!!!
Now, India is 100% electrified!
Just wait for rahul gandhi terms and india will be dielectrictified again
Thorium is in bangka island. Indonesia.
So can we add a kind of low temperature molten lead heat ex-changer to it, like lead with bismuth ? Just like some reactors in Russian Submarines did so there is no radioactivity leaked through the heat-ex-changer provided the rest of the system is safe...
This thorium reactor seems like the perfect candidate for being inherently more safe, I mean having a heat-ex-changer that shields all radiation would only make terms in safety if don't blow the lid of the boiling pot or let the furnace run to high underneath the cooking pot...
So it requires lower temperature to melt this lead with bismuth and some other materials so is it possible to do that in terms of reactor temperature...
If so that would be great and add another safety future, can we than also make a kind of passive system like some fridges that make hot gasses or liquids boil up to the condenser and cooler ones down and do this with the low temperature molten lead ?
and use the water for the turbines instead of a condenser and that of course on the normal way but also a passive cooling system like a fridge that uses only heat to create cold ?
like a passive heat pump or one without a mechanical pump ?
Just like a system with a Tesla valve as a flow-back valve the steam not entering the cooled water down water from the condenser when it is in the reservoir before entering heating pipes..
So keeping the background power on on the power grid and then using over capacity of windmills on windy days and solar thermal and over capacity on very sunny days to make hydrogen and maybe power our cars with it or use the hydrogen like 5% till 10% percent hydrogen with a little methane for the flame color and some nitrogen to replace the natural gas that makes one part of our country sink down so we do need way less methane and use the over power of wind and solar to create a natural gas replacement and fuel for our cars...
And this thorium reactor for background power, until we finally develop a fusion reactor...
One day India will be super power.
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India has developed fast breeding nuclear reactor... Yeahhh...
I live nearby koodankulam just 50kms i didn't know that india had 3types of reactors in one place conventional, fast breeder and exp.LFTR...
mannnn awesome work you just need space of one wind reactor and power whole country
Thorium may be a cleaner source of energy for the future but if a traditional distribution system is still used then the People of the world will still be under the control of the Elite. This is where Tesla was different from what Westinghouse and Edison have done, which is Tesla wanted the People to have Free Energy but Westinghouse and Edison had profit as their primary concern.
The benifit possible, compared to the consequences eminent and long lasting, at this point in our history, makes nuclear energy unviable today.
"Many other issues came up and nuclear programs were slowed down...particularly from the point of thorium utilization".
Brilliant!
Great speech
Great lecture
great talk by S Banerjee
Great potential for future.
illuminating!
Fusion >
Solar Thermal >
Wind >
Solar Concentrated >
Solar PV >
Geothermal >
Thorium Fission >
Algae biofuel >
Tidal >
Biomass
Very good vid! I'd like to hear more about this research!
Please please come to Finland and show our idiots how this is done at once! We have been building one reactor now for at least 15 years but it never gets ready and two more will soon (irony) be built by Russian company Rosatom. Nothing happens.
I'll believe it once I see it working.
as I was trying to search for any updates on the development of Th based LFTR reactors I found that China and India are each (or used to be ??) in the process of developing a pilot reactor based on Thorium but as far as I was able to find out last time - I didn't find any updates regarding their progress. I was wondering: does anyone know of any updates regarding these ? Thanks a lot !
and go Thorium !!!
India already going to build hybread 100 th based reactor under construction
Wonderful talk.
“Human history is 6000 years old” where did that come from in a truly scientific talk ?
I think he meant known and written history.
History is only 6000 years old. Anything before the invention of writing is referred to in English as prehistory.
He means verifiable recorded history . It's so obvious .
Will thorium reactor work. I am eager to see whether it works
very nice lecture
swetha please hindi me ditail up gred kare
True
Yes to alternate form of energy
India has pioneereed thorium technology
The Energy needs are Growing and Thorium have potential in it, if Oil Companies are Intelligent they will Invest in this Technology, instead of trying to Suppress it.
loving the blue lighting.
a gravity harness (underwater wheel) can make fuel free electricity as much as you want on demand and totally free
Population is the biggest problem facing the human race. Too bloody many of us.
let's get to mars then...huh?
Better is go to free space. And living in Space Habitats.
I agree to a certain level, however the biggest threat is not humans but our habits to consume and consume and consume. The amount of wastage in the name of choice - from food to water to lighting buildings at night to mass air-conditioning , to plastics...and that list goes on and on.. All driven by consumption...keep things simple and half ( if not more) or the issues disappear..
Most of it is about spin. You give a thrust spin in a round ball of thorium using electric cables and an inner layer connection to an other ball of uranium or thorium of bigger size the energy potential in the inner coil can be trapped electricity. No energy loss extremely safe with no water except for cooling the coil spin and even air can be used to cool a little bit somewhat like fan and magnets. But theory. No fission involved.
ITER IS FOCUSSED ON THAT AND IT MAY COMPLETE BY 2020
When will it be ready... No article, no latest news related to that on internet... What is the progress... Can someone tell me.
It is always 20 years away. It has been that way since 1970.
Another thing that would be hugely beneficial, finding a safe way to utilize the nuclear waste as another backup type of energy instead of just adding to our huge stockpile of waste.
So many presentations never mention Hydro . It provides real time demand and no pollution.
Hydro can have much devastating ecological impact.
dank je wel !
Nuclear reactors are just assumed to be the future of energy. But there is technology that is even more effective and efficient and completely green and of course the future. I'm working on it.
Why was hydro power left out of the equation?
Safe, cheap nuclear power from Thorium molten salt reactors could mean the end of using hydrocarbon (fossil ) fuels. These are valuable raw materials in plastics manufacture, and should be conserved. It's like burning Teak ,or Oak in an open fire-- - short sighted.
Fossil fuels and Gasoline can be artificially manufactured but its just cheaper to drill for oil. Gasoline and oil is a inexhaustible energy source that comes from vegetation. Gasoline and oil is just another type of biofuel.
The Government and Politician need to wake up to do the right thing building the Thorium Plants!
Wow, proud to be a Bangali!
hahahahahhahahaahhaahah what happend suddenly to you ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I'm sorry!!! Is there a problem to feel like that?
he is not bangladeshiiiiiiiiiiii
But I'm from West Bengal nah!
Thank you for sharing. =)
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They built the reactor, ran it for a short while, then closed down? How did the reactor they built failed if it failed at all?
Okay where can I buy one?
This is 6 years ago. No thoriun yet any updates?
can you guys turn on the subtitals?
Buddy it's *subtitles
could these help clean up the accidents that have happened and make them liveable once again?
+Terrance Nygren
No but they would help prevent new disasters and help clean up old stored fuel that is just waiting to leak out right now. The current decay time of spent fuel is thousands of years. The waste from thorium is about 100 years and the quantity of spent fuel left from the Throium would be far less since it uses up 99% of the fuel where our current reactors with solid fuel uses only about 1% and the rest is waste. It's easy to store fuel safely for 100 years compared to thousands of years because the material in the barrels break down.
no